Tandy Leather Factory Q4 2023 Earnings Report Earnings History Tandy Leather Factory EPS ResultsActual EPS$0.23Consensus EPS N/ABeat/MissN/AOne Year Ago EPSN/ATandy Leather Factory Revenue ResultsActual Revenue$20.85 millionExpected RevenueN/ABeat/MissN/AYoY Revenue GrowthN/ATandy Leather Factory Announcement DetailsQuarterQ4 2023Date3/22/2024TimeN/AConference Call DateTuesday, March 26, 2024Conference Call Time10:00AM ETConference Call ResourcesConference Call AudioConference Call TranscriptPress Release (8-K)Annual Report (10-K)Earnings HistoryTLF ProfilePowered by Tandy Leather Factory Q4 2023 Earnings Call TranscriptProvided by QuartrMarch 26, 2024 ShareLink copied to clipboard.There are 4 speakers on the call. Operator00:00:00Good morning, everyone. Thank you for joining us for a discussion of Tandy's Q4 2023 financial results. I'm Dan Ross, General Counsel and Corporate Secretary for Tandy, and I will be co moderating the discussion today. Our CEO, Janet Carr, will give just a very brief overview of the quarter, and then we will devote the conference to investors questions and discussion. If you wish to ask a question or make a comment, please press the smiley face on the reactions button, which is located at the bottom of your Zoom screen, and then select raise hand. Operator00:00:28Janet will recognize the questioners and ask you to unmute your line. You'll need to ask your questions out loud yourself through your computer or phone audio. Please be sure to state your name and, if applicable, your company when you begin your question. I will not be reading questions or comments directly from the chat. With that, let's get started. Operator00:00:46Today's presentation will include statements other than historical results that constitute forward looking statements within the meaning of the Securities Act of 1933 and the Securities Exchange Act of 1934, each as amended. These statements reflect our expectations or estimates based on the information we have today, but are not guarantees or predictions of future performance. They involve known and unknown risks, uncertainties and other factors, many of which are beyond our control and which may cause actual results to differ materially from the statements contained in this presentation. You are cautioned not to put undue reliance on these forward looking statements. The company assumes no obligation to update or otherwise revise these forward looking statements, except as required by law. Operator00:01:26And now here's Janet Carr. Speaker 100:01:28Thank you, Dan. I want to start today by revisiting the outlook for 2023 that we shared with you at the end of 2022. With some economic signals flashing red, we wanted to position Tandy to weather a challenging consumer demand environment. We focused on growing profit and cash and took a conservative position on investments to drive sales growth. This meant managing both cost of sales and operating expenses, managing CapEx and continuing to optimize the retail fleet, seeking better renewals, moving to lower rent locations, closing stores with negative cash and or a long term trend of declining demand. Speaker 100:02:13And while our focus was not primarily on sales growth, we did continue to invest in building the foundation of the business. This is what we said we were going to do, and it's what we did do. The results in snapshot speak for themselves. Sales were down about 5%, which we'll talk about in a minute. But gross margin rate was up, and that, combined with a significant decline in operating expenses delivered $4,400,000 in operating income, up $3,000,000 over last year. Speaker 100:02:45Adjusted EBITDA, a non GAAP metric which we're showing here to provide additional insight, was $6,500,000 up $2,500,000 over last year. Turning to the balance sheet, cash was up $4,000,000 over $4,000,000 to 12,200,000 dollars Inventory was essentially flat to last year and we continued to have no debt. Turning to sales, At $76,200,000 sales were down 5.1% over 2022, driven by continued weak consumer demand. We had 6 stores with sales in 'twenty two that closed in 'twenty two or 'twenty three, representing about $1,400,000 or 170 basis points of the sales decline. We do have some new stores as well. Speaker 100:03:36We opened our store in Queens, New York in July of 2023. And while sales are continuing to ramp up, it's off to a very good start. We also have leases signed on 2 more stores, Store 188 in Margate, Florida near Fort Lauderdale, which should recoup sales lost from closing our store in Miami, expected to open any day and store 189 in Richmond, Virginia, a strong market for us, where we closed a store with an unfavorable lease during COVID. This store should open sometime in late April, early May. Our new store in Queens, New York is a test of a new model of store for us. Speaker 100:04:19It has a smaller footprint and therefore allows us to have smaller lower rents. It has better merchandising of leather. It's hanging, it's visible, you can touch and feel it. You can see in the photo in the upper right there. Our workshop and class area are at the center of the store with an emphasis on classes and makers' activities. Speaker 100:04:39And it's a full service model, both necessitated by the smaller footprint and less self serve merchandising, but also to leverage our competitive advantage, which is the expert service that customers get in our retail stores. We're using a variation on this model for new locations, both new markets and store moves going forward. 2023 gross profit dollars were down 2.9 percent to 45 point improvement in gross margin rate. Rate improvement came from reduction in freight and warehouse overhead, better full price selling, some product and channel mix shifts and other adjustments. Better gross margin rate combined with a 9.7% decline in operating expenses over last year drove a $3,000,000 increase in operating income to 4,400,000 While we weren't happy with the decline in sales, as we said at the start of this year, we had a plan to deliver earnings and cash growth even in the face of declining sales and we did that. Speaker 100:05:49With our Queens store and 2 more new stores underway, we're also taking steps to grow profitable sales in thoughtful locations with attractive economics. We talked about our key principles for the last couple of years, and these continue to be what guide us. From a financial perspective, number 1, disciplined capital allocation, meaning capital investments to be funded from operations number 2, conservative balance sheet, cautious about leverage and 3, a focus on long term shareholder value with consideration for all mechanisms for increasing value without impairing proposition, quality, value, consistency and service. Secondly, we're building an operating model, the talent, systems and processes that can support the business for many years to come. And 3, but that can also remain flexible and nimble that we can both scale and allow us to respond to changing market conditions quickly. Speaker 100:07:03Looking forward to 2020 4, we will continue to focus on profitability and cash. We're going to grow sales with a focus on retail, new stores targeting an additional 3 to 5 stores. Our stores continue to be our competitive advantage with low build out and relatively low operating costs. It's a good source of positive cash flow. And with our new full service model, we're going to continue to invest in our competitive advantage. Speaker 100:07:30Experts who teach, serve, inspire and engage their broad local communities in leather crafting. And as previously announced, we're exploring a sale of our Fort Worth property. The rationale, we seem to have we have not seem to have, we do have a lot more square footage and undeveloped acreage here than we need. Someone else could potentially get a lot more value out of this property than we do. And we have some unique benefits here such as our I-twenty footage, which can see right behind me, significant power. Speaker 100:08:02And again, someone may find that a lot more valuable, than it is to Tandy. The market has also appreciated fairly significantly in recent years. And we've modeled scenarios where we sell this property and buy or lease something that more specifically fits our needs and potentially releases excess cash if we get the right price. The Board would certainly consider all options in deploying any excess cash, including potentially returning some to shareholders. And while interest has been strong, any move would be And now moving to questions and discussion. Speaker 100:08:47I see that Isaac has a question. Do you want to go ahead and unmute and ask your question? Speaker 200:08:55Yeah. Hi. Thanks. First, congratulations on what seems like a pretty good quarter, all things considered. And I had a couple of hopefully quick questions. Speaker 200:09:08First one is, how far along do you think you are in the process of optimizing the the retail fleet? Did you say you're mostly there, or do you have substantially more to go? Speaker 100:09:22It's an ongoing process. We are aggressive about taking care of any cash flow negative stores. And we also have quite a few leases coming up over the next about 18 months. There are about 38 that are expiring and up for renewal. And that is typically the time that we really take a hard look at those locations. Speaker 100:09:48So there's a lot to come. Speaker 200:09:51Okay. Thanks. That's helpful. And my other question is just about your why you are showing such a low level of interest income on your cash balances. I mean, I think you averaged about something close to $10,000,000 last year, but I don't see much interest income. Speaker 100:10:16We invested in risk free securities with our cash. And the cash does reach a low point in Q3. So we did not maintain a $10,000,000 balance throughout the entire year. And I'm going to say interest income on cash was in the neighborhood of about $90,000 last year. And it should be as our balances grow better going forward. Speaker 100:10:50We began our T Bill investment program in around June of last year. Speaker 200:10:58Okay. All right. Thanks. I think that's it for me. Thanks. Speaker 100:11:05Great. Thanks, Isaac. Joe? Speaker 300:11:10Hey, Janet. Hi. Just first of all, congrats. I know it was a lot of work these last few years getting the cost basis kind of on a more sustainable level. And so now that you're kind of there, I congratulate you first on that. Speaker 100:11:23Thank you. Speaker 300:11:25Then the only question on my end that wasn't answered was kind of on the future other revenue avenues. I know maybe a few years ago, you had talked about maybe there were some adjacent areas. So, you know, with the new store model, are we still is that kind of our focus for the foreseeable future, or are there still other potential things? Speaker 100:11:44I think there are potential other things that are down the road, but in the next couple of years, we're really going to be focused on our core business and growing sales within our existing stores and finding the right number of total stores for our fleet. I think definitely as we've indicated with an additional 3 to 5 stores this year, there's more opportunity in the Speaker 200:12:21Yeah, I just had a quick follow-up. I think I heard you say that interest in the sale of your headquarters has been strong. Could you just confirm that I heard that correctly? Speaker 100:12:36Yes. I don't think we get the this I don't think this call gets the record for the absolute shortest call that we've done, but it's close. It's going to be close. As always, if you have any questions and want to reach out to Dan or me directly, we're happy to chat. And if there is nothing else, last call. Speaker 100:13:30All right. Thank you, everyone. Thank Operator00:13:33you, everyone. This concludes the call.Read moreRemove AdsPowered by Conference Call Audio Live Call not available Earnings Conference CallTandy Leather Factory Q4 202300:00 / 00:00Speed:1x1.25x1.5x2xRemove Ads Earnings DocumentsPress Release(8-K)Annual report(10-K) Tandy Leather Factory Earnings HeadlinesTandy Leather Factory (NASDAQ:TLF) shareholders have endured a 14% loss from investing in the stock a year agoApril 5, 2025 | finance.yahoo.comTandy Leather Factory Reports Fourth Quarter and Full Year 2024 ResultsFebruary 26, 2025 | globenewswire.comNow I look stupid. Real stupid... I thought what happened 25 years ago was a once- in-a-lifetime event… but how wrong I was. Because here we are, a quarter of a century later, almost to the exact day, and it’s happening again. April 11, 2025 | Porter & Company (Ad)Tandy Leather stock hits 52-week high at $5.32 amid growthFebruary 13, 2025 | msn.comTandy Leather to move HQ to Benbrook from Fort WorthFebruary 5, 2025 | bizjournals.comTandy Leather clarifies ex-dividend date for special dividendFebruary 1, 2025 | markets.businessinsider.comSee More Tandy Leather Factory Headlines Get Earnings Announcements in your inboxWant to stay updated on the latest earnings announcements and upcoming reports for companies like Tandy Leather Factory? Sign up for Earnings360's daily newsletter to receive timely earnings updates on Tandy Leather Factory and other key companies, straight to your email. Email Address About Tandy Leather FactoryTandy Leather Factory (NASDAQ:TLF) engages in the distribution of leather and related products. It offers leather, leatherworking tools, buckles and adornments for belts, leather dyes and finishes, saddle and tack hardware, and do-it-yourself kits. It operates through North America and International geographical segments. The North America geographical segment consists of 115 stores, which offer a broad selection of products combined with leathercraft expertise in a one-stop shop. The International geographical segment comprises of similar to North America segment but generally located in light industrial areas. The company was founded by J. Wray Thompson, Sr. and Ronald C. Morgan in 1980 and is headquartered in Fort Worth, TX.View Tandy Leather Factory ProfileRead more More Earnings Resources from MarketBeat Earnings Tools Today's Earnings Tomorrow's Earnings Next Week's Earnings Upcoming Earnings Calls Earnings Newsletter Earnings Call Transcripts Earnings Beats & Misses Corporate Guidance Earnings Screener Earnings By Country U.S. Earnings Reports Canadian Earnings Reports U.K. Earnings Reports Latest Articles Why Analysts Boosted United Airlines Stock Ahead of EarningsLamb Weston Stock Rises, Earnings Provide Calm Amidst ChaosIntuitive Machines Gains After Earnings Beat, NASA Missions AheadCintas Delivers Earnings Beat, Signals More Growth AheadNike Stock Dips on Earnings: Analysts Weigh in on What’s NextAfter Massive Post Earnings Fall, Does Hope Remain for MongoDB?Semtech Rallies on Earnings Beat—Is There More Upside? Upcoming Earnings The Goldman Sachs Group (4/14/2025)Interactive Brokers Group (4/15/2025)Bank of America (4/15/2025)Citigroup (4/15/2025)Johnson & Johnson (4/15/2025)The PNC Financial Services Group (4/15/2025)ASML (4/16/2025)CSX (4/16/2025)Abbott Laboratories (4/16/2025)Kinder Morgan (4/16/2025) Get 30 Days of MarketBeat All Access for Free Sign up for MarketBeat All Access to gain access to MarketBeat's full suite of research tools. Start Your 30-Day Trial MarketBeat All Access Features Best-in-Class Portfolio Monitoring Get personalized stock ideas. Compare portfolio to indices. Check stock news, ratings, SEC filings, and more. Stock Ideas and Recommendations See daily stock ideas from top analysts. Receive short-term trading ideas from MarketBeat. Identify trending stocks on social media. Advanced Stock Screeners and Research Tools Use our seven stock screeners to find suitable stocks. Stay informed with MarketBeat's real-time news. Export data to Excel for personal analysis. Sign in to your free account to enjoy these benefits In-depth profiles and analysis for 20,000 public companies. Real-time analyst ratings, insider transactions, earnings data, and more. Our daily ratings and market update email newsletter. Sign in to your free account to enjoy all that MarketBeat has to offer. Sign In Create Account Your Email Address: Email Address Required Your Password: Password Required Log In or Sign in with Facebook Sign in with Google Forgot your password? Your Email Address: Please enter your email address. Please enter a valid email address Choose a Password: Please enter your password. Your password must be at least 8 characters long and contain at least 1 number, 1 letter, and 1 special character. Create My Account (Free) or Sign in with Facebook Sign in with Google By creating a free account, you agree to our terms of service. This site is protected by reCAPTCHA and the Google Privacy Policy and Terms of Service apply.
There are 4 speakers on the call. Operator00:00:00Good morning, everyone. Thank you for joining us for a discussion of Tandy's Q4 2023 financial results. I'm Dan Ross, General Counsel and Corporate Secretary for Tandy, and I will be co moderating the discussion today. Our CEO, Janet Carr, will give just a very brief overview of the quarter, and then we will devote the conference to investors questions and discussion. If you wish to ask a question or make a comment, please press the smiley face on the reactions button, which is located at the bottom of your Zoom screen, and then select raise hand. Operator00:00:28Janet will recognize the questioners and ask you to unmute your line. You'll need to ask your questions out loud yourself through your computer or phone audio. Please be sure to state your name and, if applicable, your company when you begin your question. I will not be reading questions or comments directly from the chat. With that, let's get started. Operator00:00:46Today's presentation will include statements other than historical results that constitute forward looking statements within the meaning of the Securities Act of 1933 and the Securities Exchange Act of 1934, each as amended. These statements reflect our expectations or estimates based on the information we have today, but are not guarantees or predictions of future performance. They involve known and unknown risks, uncertainties and other factors, many of which are beyond our control and which may cause actual results to differ materially from the statements contained in this presentation. You are cautioned not to put undue reliance on these forward looking statements. The company assumes no obligation to update or otherwise revise these forward looking statements, except as required by law. Operator00:01:26And now here's Janet Carr. Speaker 100:01:28Thank you, Dan. I want to start today by revisiting the outlook for 2023 that we shared with you at the end of 2022. With some economic signals flashing red, we wanted to position Tandy to weather a challenging consumer demand environment. We focused on growing profit and cash and took a conservative position on investments to drive sales growth. This meant managing both cost of sales and operating expenses, managing CapEx and continuing to optimize the retail fleet, seeking better renewals, moving to lower rent locations, closing stores with negative cash and or a long term trend of declining demand. Speaker 100:02:13And while our focus was not primarily on sales growth, we did continue to invest in building the foundation of the business. This is what we said we were going to do, and it's what we did do. The results in snapshot speak for themselves. Sales were down about 5%, which we'll talk about in a minute. But gross margin rate was up, and that, combined with a significant decline in operating expenses delivered $4,400,000 in operating income, up $3,000,000 over last year. Speaker 100:02:45Adjusted EBITDA, a non GAAP metric which we're showing here to provide additional insight, was $6,500,000 up $2,500,000 over last year. Turning to the balance sheet, cash was up $4,000,000 over $4,000,000 to 12,200,000 dollars Inventory was essentially flat to last year and we continued to have no debt. Turning to sales, At $76,200,000 sales were down 5.1% over 2022, driven by continued weak consumer demand. We had 6 stores with sales in 'twenty two that closed in 'twenty two or 'twenty three, representing about $1,400,000 or 170 basis points of the sales decline. We do have some new stores as well. Speaker 100:03:36We opened our store in Queens, New York in July of 2023. And while sales are continuing to ramp up, it's off to a very good start. We also have leases signed on 2 more stores, Store 188 in Margate, Florida near Fort Lauderdale, which should recoup sales lost from closing our store in Miami, expected to open any day and store 189 in Richmond, Virginia, a strong market for us, where we closed a store with an unfavorable lease during COVID. This store should open sometime in late April, early May. Our new store in Queens, New York is a test of a new model of store for us. Speaker 100:04:19It has a smaller footprint and therefore allows us to have smaller lower rents. It has better merchandising of leather. It's hanging, it's visible, you can touch and feel it. You can see in the photo in the upper right there. Our workshop and class area are at the center of the store with an emphasis on classes and makers' activities. Speaker 100:04:39And it's a full service model, both necessitated by the smaller footprint and less self serve merchandising, but also to leverage our competitive advantage, which is the expert service that customers get in our retail stores. We're using a variation on this model for new locations, both new markets and store moves going forward. 2023 gross profit dollars were down 2.9 percent to 45 point improvement in gross margin rate. Rate improvement came from reduction in freight and warehouse overhead, better full price selling, some product and channel mix shifts and other adjustments. Better gross margin rate combined with a 9.7% decline in operating expenses over last year drove a $3,000,000 increase in operating income to 4,400,000 While we weren't happy with the decline in sales, as we said at the start of this year, we had a plan to deliver earnings and cash growth even in the face of declining sales and we did that. Speaker 100:05:49With our Queens store and 2 more new stores underway, we're also taking steps to grow profitable sales in thoughtful locations with attractive economics. We talked about our key principles for the last couple of years, and these continue to be what guide us. From a financial perspective, number 1, disciplined capital allocation, meaning capital investments to be funded from operations number 2, conservative balance sheet, cautious about leverage and 3, a focus on long term shareholder value with consideration for all mechanisms for increasing value without impairing proposition, quality, value, consistency and service. Secondly, we're building an operating model, the talent, systems and processes that can support the business for many years to come. And 3, but that can also remain flexible and nimble that we can both scale and allow us to respond to changing market conditions quickly. Speaker 100:07:03Looking forward to 2020 4, we will continue to focus on profitability and cash. We're going to grow sales with a focus on retail, new stores targeting an additional 3 to 5 stores. Our stores continue to be our competitive advantage with low build out and relatively low operating costs. It's a good source of positive cash flow. And with our new full service model, we're going to continue to invest in our competitive advantage. Speaker 100:07:30Experts who teach, serve, inspire and engage their broad local communities in leather crafting. And as previously announced, we're exploring a sale of our Fort Worth property. The rationale, we seem to have we have not seem to have, we do have a lot more square footage and undeveloped acreage here than we need. Someone else could potentially get a lot more value out of this property than we do. And we have some unique benefits here such as our I-twenty footage, which can see right behind me, significant power. Speaker 100:08:02And again, someone may find that a lot more valuable, than it is to Tandy. The market has also appreciated fairly significantly in recent years. And we've modeled scenarios where we sell this property and buy or lease something that more specifically fits our needs and potentially releases excess cash if we get the right price. The Board would certainly consider all options in deploying any excess cash, including potentially returning some to shareholders. And while interest has been strong, any move would be And now moving to questions and discussion. Speaker 100:08:47I see that Isaac has a question. Do you want to go ahead and unmute and ask your question? Speaker 200:08:55Yeah. Hi. Thanks. First, congratulations on what seems like a pretty good quarter, all things considered. And I had a couple of hopefully quick questions. Speaker 200:09:08First one is, how far along do you think you are in the process of optimizing the the retail fleet? Did you say you're mostly there, or do you have substantially more to go? Speaker 100:09:22It's an ongoing process. We are aggressive about taking care of any cash flow negative stores. And we also have quite a few leases coming up over the next about 18 months. There are about 38 that are expiring and up for renewal. And that is typically the time that we really take a hard look at those locations. Speaker 100:09:48So there's a lot to come. Speaker 200:09:51Okay. Thanks. That's helpful. And my other question is just about your why you are showing such a low level of interest income on your cash balances. I mean, I think you averaged about something close to $10,000,000 last year, but I don't see much interest income. Speaker 100:10:16We invested in risk free securities with our cash. And the cash does reach a low point in Q3. So we did not maintain a $10,000,000 balance throughout the entire year. And I'm going to say interest income on cash was in the neighborhood of about $90,000 last year. And it should be as our balances grow better going forward. Speaker 100:10:50We began our T Bill investment program in around June of last year. Speaker 200:10:58Okay. All right. Thanks. I think that's it for me. Thanks. Speaker 100:11:05Great. Thanks, Isaac. Joe? Speaker 300:11:10Hey, Janet. Hi. Just first of all, congrats. I know it was a lot of work these last few years getting the cost basis kind of on a more sustainable level. And so now that you're kind of there, I congratulate you first on that. Speaker 100:11:23Thank you. Speaker 300:11:25Then the only question on my end that wasn't answered was kind of on the future other revenue avenues. I know maybe a few years ago, you had talked about maybe there were some adjacent areas. So, you know, with the new store model, are we still is that kind of our focus for the foreseeable future, or are there still other potential things? Speaker 100:11:44I think there are potential other things that are down the road, but in the next couple of years, we're really going to be focused on our core business and growing sales within our existing stores and finding the right number of total stores for our fleet. I think definitely as we've indicated with an additional 3 to 5 stores this year, there's more opportunity in the Speaker 200:12:21Yeah, I just had a quick follow-up. I think I heard you say that interest in the sale of your headquarters has been strong. Could you just confirm that I heard that correctly? Speaker 100:12:36Yes. I don't think we get the this I don't think this call gets the record for the absolute shortest call that we've done, but it's close. It's going to be close. As always, if you have any questions and want to reach out to Dan or me directly, we're happy to chat. And if there is nothing else, last call. Speaker 100:13:30All right. Thank you, everyone. Thank Operator00:13:33you, everyone. This concludes the call.Read moreRemove AdsPowered by