Saab AB (publ) Q4 2023 Earnings Call Transcript

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There are 4 speakers on the call.

Operator

Good day and thank you for standing by. Welcome to the Weyco Group, Inc. 4th Quarter and Full Year 2023 Earnings Release Conference Call. At this time, all participants are in a listen only mode. After the speakers' presentation, there will be a question and answer session.

Operator

Please be advised that today's conference is being recorded. Would now like to hand the conference over to your speaker today, Judy Anderson, Chief Financial Officer. Please go ahead.

Speaker 1

Good morning, and welcome, everyone, to Waco Group's conference call to discuss 4th quarter and full year 2023 results. On this call with me today are Tom Florsheim, Jr, Chairman and Chief Executive Officer and John Florsheim, President and Chief Operating Officer. Before we begin to discuss the results for the quarter year, I will read a brief cautionary statement. During this call, we may make projections or other forward looking statements regarding our current expectations concerning future events and the future financial performance of the company. We wish to caution you that these statements are just predictions and that actual events or results may differ materially.

Speaker 1

We refer you to the section entitled Risk Factors in our most recent Annual Report on Form 10 ks, which provides a discussion of important factors and risks that could cause our actual results to differ materially from our projections. These risk factors are incorporated herein by reference. They include in part the uncertain impact of inflation on our costs and consumer demand for our products, increased interest rates and other macroeconomic factors that may cause a slowdown or contraction in the U. S. Or Australian economy.

Speaker 1

Net sales for the Q4 of 2023 were $80,600,000 down 19% compared to last year's 4th quarter net sales of $99,000,000 Consolidated gross earnings increased to 50.3% of net sales for the quarter compared to 46.6 percent of net sales in last year's 4th quarter, due mainly to higher gross margins in our North American wholesale segment. Quarterly operating earnings were $11,500,000 down 24% compared to record operating earnings of $15,100,000 in the Q4 of 2022. Net earnings were $8,500,000 or $0.90 per diluted share for the quarter compared to $10,200,000 or $1.06 per diluted share for the Q4 of 2022. In the North American wholesale segment, net sales for the quarter were $59,600,000 down 21% from $75,500,000 last year. The decrease was primarily due to a 32% decline in box sales, but also due to decreased sales across our legacy brands as a result of weaker demand.

Speaker 1

Wholesale gross earnings were 44.9 percent of net sales for the quarter compared to 41.3 percent of net sales in last year's Q4. Gross margins improved as a result of lower inventory costs, primarily inbound freight. Wholesale selling and administrative expenses totaled $18,900,000 for the quarter compared to $20,500,000 last year. The decrease was largely due to lower employee costs, mainly commission based compensation. As a percent of net sales, wholesale selling and administrative expenses totaled 32% for the quarter versus 27% last year.

Speaker 1

Wholesale operating earnings totaled $7,900,000 for the quarter or down 27% compared to $10,700,000 in 20 22, primarily due to lower sales. Net sales in our North American Retail segment were $13,900,000 for the quarter, down 3% compared to record sales of $14,300,000 last year. The decrease was primarily on the BOGS e Commerce website as a result of lower demand. Retail gross earnings as percent of net sales were 65.8% 64.5% in the 4th quarters of 2023 2020 2, respectively. Retail selling and administrative expenses totaled $5,600,000 for the quarter compared to $5,900,000 last year, down as a result of lower web advertising costs.

Speaker 1

As a percent of net sales, retail selling and administrative expenses were flat at 41% in both this year and last year. Retail operating earnings reached a record $3,500,000 in the Q4 of 2023, up 6% over $3,300,000 in 20.22. The earnings improvement resulted from lower costs in the 4th quarter of 2023. Our other operations result consists of our retail and However, as previously disclosed, we ceased we ceased to be a However, as previously disclosed, we ceased operations in the Asia Pacific region in 2023 and are in the final stages of winding down this business. Net sales of Florsheim Australia were $7,200,000 down 23 percent from $9,200,000 in the Q4 of 2022.

Speaker 1

In local currency, Florsheim Australia's net sales were down 22% due mainly to the loss of a sizable wholesale customer in Australia earlier this year, but also due to lower retail sales in the Asia Pacific region as a result of its wind down. Florsheim Australia's gross earnings were 65.4 percent of net sales for the quarter compared to 61.8% in the Q4 of 2022. Its operating earnings were $200,000 for the quarter compared to $1,100,000 last year, down due to lower sales volumes this year. We will now discuss our full year 2023 results. Consolidated net sales for the full year were $318,000,000 down 10% compared to record sales of $351,700,000 in 2022.

Speaker 1

Consolidated gross earnings increased to 44.9 percent of net sales in 20 23 from 41.1 percent last year due mainly to higher gross margins in our North American wholesale segment. Full year 2023 operating earnings were a record $41,000,000 up 2% over our previous record of $40,400,000 in 2022 despite lower sales. Net earnings were a record $30,200,000 or $3.17 per diluted share in 2023, up 2% compared to 29 point $5,000,000 or $3.07 per diluted share in 2022. North American wholesale net sales were $250,400,000 in 2023, down 12% compared to record sales of $283,200,000 in 2022. The decrease was primarily due to a 31% decline in BOG sales compared to record sales for the brand last year.

Speaker 1

Sales of the Stacy Adams, Florsheim and Nunn Bush brands were also down for the year due to lower demand following strong growth last year. Wholesale gross earnings as a percent of net sales were 39 point 7% in 2023 35.6% in 2022. Gross margins improved as a result of increased selling prices and lower inventory costs, primarily inbound freight. Wholesale selling and administrative expenses totaled $66,000,000 in 20.23 compared to $68,200,000 in 2022. The decrease in 2023 was primarily due to lower employee costs, mainly commission based compensation.

Speaker 1

As a percent of net sales, wholesale selling and administrative expenses were 26% in 2023 and 24% in 2022. Wholesale operating earnings reached a record 33 point $3,000,000 in 2023, up 2% over our previous record of $32,600,000 in 20.22 due to higher gross margins and lower selling and administrative expenses. In our North American retail segment, net sales were a record $38,000,000 in 20.23, up 4% over our previous record of $36,700,000 in 20.22. The increase was primarily due to higher sales across our legacy brands websites, partially offset by lower sales on the BOGS website. Sales at our 4 domestic brick and mortar stores were down 4% for the year.

Speaker 1

Retail gross earnings were 60 5.7 percent of net sales in 2022. Retail selling and administrative expenses totaled $18,300,000 or 48 percent of net sales for the year compared to $18,100,000 or 49 percent of net sales last year. The Retail segment achieved record operating earnings of 6 point $8,000,000 in 2023, up 11% over $6,100,000 in 2022, due mainly to the increase in web sales. Net sales at Florsheim Australia totaled 29.6 $1,000,000 in 2023, down 7% from $31,800,000 in 2022. In local currency, Florsheim Australia's net sales were down 3% for the year with sales down in its wholesale businesses due to the previously mentioned mid year loss of a wholesale customer in Australia, partially offset by higher sales across its retail businesses.

Speaker 1

Florsheim Australia's gross earnings were 62.5 percent of net sales in 2023 versus 61.1 percent of net sales in 2022. Its operating earnings totaled $1,000,000 in 2023 $1,700,000 in 2022, down as a result of lower net sales. At December 31, 2023, our cash and marketable securities totaled $75,900,000 and we had no debt outstanding on our $40,000,000 revolving line of credit. During 2023, we generated $98,600,000 of cash from operations due mainly to net earnings and reductions in inventory levels. We used funds to pay off $31,100,000 on our line of credit to pay $9,300,000 in dividends and to repurchase $4,300,000 of our common stock.

Speaker 1

We also had $3,300,000 of capital expenditures. We estimate that our 2024 annual capital expenditures will be between $2,000,000 $4,000,000 On March 5, 2024, our Board of Directors declared a cash dividend of $0.25 per share to all shareholders of record on March 15, 2024 payable March 29, 2024. I would now like to turn the call over to Tom Florsheim, Jr, Chairman and CEO.

Speaker 2

Good morning, everyone. As Judy mentioned, we experienced a slowdown in sales as our overall wholesale shipments were down 21% versus a strong Q4 last year. The retail environment remains difficult for footwear and apparel as consumers are spending more of their discretionary income on experiences and services. Retailers in turn are being cautious in regards to their inventory levels. While we recognize we are in a challenging period for our industry, we are pleased with our overall financial performance in 2023.

Speaker 2

We achieved record wholesale operating earnings by maintaining our price integrity, while taking a disciplined approach to our expenses. BOG sales were down 32% in the 4th quarter and 31% for the year. Mild weather throughout the fall and early winter in combination with an inventory glut in the outdoor market made for a tough 2023. We believe the outdoor boot market will remain challenging throughout 2024 as retailers right size their inventories. With BOGS, we are focused on moving the business forward through product innovation with an emphasis on BOGS seamless rubber boot construction.

Speaker 2

BOGS seamless construction is 30% lighter than comparable vulcanized rubber boots and over twice as durable as measured by the number of flexes our seamless boots can withstand without any sign of cracking. This year, we are expanding the number of seamless boots in our line across numerous price points. Consumers and retailers are excited about this technology, which positions us well for future sales growth. In addition to the expansion of our seamless collection, we are also introducing new non insulated and lightly insulated footwear, so the BOGS brand is less dependent on inclement weather. Our overall legacy business declined 16% for the quarter and 5% for the year.

Speaker 2

At the brand level, Florsheim, Nunn Bush and Stacy Adams were down 13%, 18% and 19%, respectively, for the latest quarter and 4%, 2% and 10% respectively, for the year. The decline in sales of all three brands reflects a general slowdown in the market for dress and dress casual footwear. In addition, many of our retail partners shifted to more of a chase strategy in order to maintain greater inventory flexibility. We see the decrease in our legacy shipments as part of a return to a normal business cycle after a period of heightened demand and supply chain delays. We anticipate this trend will continue through the first half of twenty twenty four.

Speaker 2

Our sell throughs at retail remain solid and we continue to diversify our product mix across all three brands to expand our casual and hybrid offerings. In our retail segment, sales were down 3% for the quarter, but up 4% for the year. The 4th quarter decrease was driven primarily by a decline in BOGS online sales due to unseasonably warm and dry weather. Overall, we believe the company had a strong direct to consumer performance with a solid increase for 2023 as well as record retail operating earnings. We view our direct to consumer business as a growth opportunity and continue to invest in our online platform.

Speaker 2

Florsheim Australia's net sales in local currency were down 22% in the 4th quarter and 3% for the year. The loss of a major wholesale account as well as a soft consumer demand presented challenges in the Australian market. We anticipate headwinds through the first half of twenty twenty four and are focused on reducing expenses while we assess opportunities to rekindle our growth. As previously discussed, we closed our Hong Kong office in December and are in the process of transitioning the Asia Pacific wholesale business to Australia division. Our inventory level was $74,900,000 at December 31, 2023, down from $128,000,000 at December 31, 2022.

Speaker 2

As discussed in the Q3 call, we have brought our inventories down to a level that balances availability for in season orders with better inventory turn. For the year, overall gross margins were 44.9% in 2023 and 41.1% in 2022. Going forward, we expect our margins to remain at a healthy level. As Judy discussed, our cash flow in 2023 was strong, resulting in a balance of $75,900,000 in cash and marketable securities. We continue to look at potential acquisitions and other options to put our cash to use.

Speaker 2

We also continue to invest in the distribution platform we have built in Milwaukee. In the Q4 of 2023, we installed equipment that automates the packing and labeling process of single peers. With the growth of our e commerce and drop ship business, gaining efficiency in this area allows us to give faster service with significant labor savings. This new equipment allows us to process singles at a rate of 38 to 40 piers per minute, which is a processing speed approximately 4 times faster than previously. This concludes our formal remarks.

Speaker 2

Thank you for your interest in Weyco Group and I would now like to open the call to your

Operator

questions. Thank you. And it looks like our first question is going to come from the line of David Wright with Henry Investment Trust. Your line is open. Please go ahead.

Speaker 3

Hi, good morning everyone.

Speaker 2

Good morning. Good morning.

Speaker 3

I wanted to compliment and congratulate you first off to make $30,000,000 after tax. I mean, that's got to be a pretty good feeling. So if you look back 10 years ago on kind of the same revenues, you were making net sort of high teens millions. But the last couple of years, you've really elevated the results. So as a stockholder, I say thank you.

Speaker 2

Well, thanks for acknowledging that. We appreciate it.

Speaker 3

Okay. On the cash, Judy, can you break down where that's held geographically?

Speaker 1

The majority of it is in the U. S. And we have invested in a money market account. So we're earning between 5% 5.5% on that. We also do have some cash in Canada, earning about the same rate.

Speaker 3

Okay. Well, thanks. Those are a couple of very good places to have your money. You can get to it and your interest earnings were double your interest expense. So that's a good result too.

Speaker 3

Further on the cash, Tom, when you mentioned the Board considering acquisitions and other options, do the other options include sort of shareholder capital return?

Speaker 2

We are looking at all the different options right now because we recognize that our cash has piled up, which is a good problem. And we've had a couple investors actually ask us about a special dividend. So we're considering that. We're considering additional stock buybacks. We still want to have the flexibility for M and A and we feel like with our balance sheet, we're in a good place for that even if we reduce our cash slightly.

Speaker 2

So we I'll just say at this point, we really recognize that we have more cash than we need on our balance sheet right now, and we're figuring out the best ways to use it. And we're trying to do that in a shareholder friendly way.

Speaker 3

Okay, that's great. Thanks for the elaboration. If you'd indulge me, I just have kind of a demographic question. If you look back 25 years ago, say, when a white collar job meant you wore a suit and tie and dress shoes, yes. And over the decades that preceded that, you probably had pretty stable, I'm going to call it dress shoe sales, growing a little with the economy and with the fact that there's more people.

Speaker 3

And dress, office dress, professional dress has changed so dramatically. Sorry to be sentimental, but I'm curious if there's any way you can quantify what if traditional lace up leather dress shoes were X 25 years ago, your sales in those products today are 10% of that or any way to quantify the decline in that particular style?

Speaker 2

Yes, I mean, we don't have the exact numbers with us right now, but what you're saying is 100% correct. When we look at our traditional classic dress business that has shrunken drastically over the last 10 years. And what people are wearing as dress shoes today are really completely different. And in the script, we talked about hybrid. In hybrid, what that means is a dressy kind of upper with nice fit with a nice kind of dressy finish, but with a more casual or sporty bottom.

Speaker 2

I mean, I'm sure you've seen a lot of men wearing dressy shoes with the white bottoms, with the white soles. So that's what we're referring to when we talk about hybrid. That's a huge growth category because people still they want to look nice at the office, but you're 100% correct. They're not wearing suits and ties and so they need something that goes with that clothing. And we look at shoes as an accessory to clothing and so we pay a lot of attention to what people are wearing.

Speaker 2

And over the years, really going back probably more than a decade, we've been trying to evolve our brand so they go with the clothing. And we recognize that in order to keep growing and be successful, we have to continue to adjust our product. And so when you look at a brand like Nunn Bush, for example, 75% of what we sell in Nunn Bush is casual, like totally casual, casual, not even hybrid. We have hybrid and we have some traditional dress, but 75% casual. In Florsheim, we've made good head roads into more casual offerings with true casuals like we have kind of a boat type shoe called the Lakeside, we have active casuals, we have a new one that's on our website that you could check out called Satellite.

Speaker 2

And then we have a lot of hybrid shoes like the Dash. And so we are continuing to evolve. And with Stacy Adams, Stacy Adams still skews more dressy, but we're working to develop more hybrids. We have a successful hybrid in Stacy called the Syncro right now. And so you are 100% right with your original statement and we're very aware of it and we continue to look at this every time we put together a new line and continue to evolve to become more and more lifestyle oriented, more casual oriented because that's the way people are addressing it and that's going to change.

Speaker 2

We are convinced it's going to continue to go down that path.

Speaker 3

Well, you've done a great job of moving the product line with the market and the results show that. So thanks for the elaboration there. Okay. Well, listen, I really appreciate the conference calls. I'm sorry, I missed the last one.

Speaker 3

I know a lot of people maybe don't show up for them, but I really appreciate you having them. And so I thank you for that and thanks for taking my questions.

Speaker 2

Thank you.

Speaker 1

Thank you.

Operator

Thank you. I'm showing no further questions at this time. And I would like to turn the conference back over to Judy Anderson for any further remarks.

Speaker 1

Thank you. Thank you everyone for joining us today and for your support of our company. Have a great day.

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