Duckhorn Portfolio Q2 2024 Earnings Call Transcript

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March 7, 2024

There are 11 speakers on the call.

Operator

Good evening, ladies and gentlemen. Thank you for joining today's Duckhorn Portfolio Q2 twenty twenty four Earnings Conference Call. My name is Cole, and I'll be the moderator for today's call. All lines will be muted during the presentation portion of the call with an opportunity for questions and answers at the end. I'd now like to turn the call over to our host, Ben Avinia Tapper, Vice President, Investor Relations.

Operator

Please proceed.

Speaker 1

Good afternoon, and welcome to the Duckhorn Portfolio's 2nd Quarter 2024 Earnings Conference Call. Joining me on today's call are Deirdre Mullen, Interim President, Chief Executive Officer and Chairperson Jennifer Paul Young, Chief Financial Officer and Sean Sullivan, Chief Strategy and Legal Officer. In a moment, we will give brief remarks followed by Q and A. By now, everyone should have access to the earnings release for the Q2 ended January 31, 2024 that went out at approximately 4:0:5 p. M.

Speaker 1

Eastern Time. The press release and an accompanying presentation are accessible on the company's website at ir.dotkorn.com. And shortly after the conclusion of today's call, a webcast will be archived for the next 30 days. Before we begin, I would like to remind you that today's discussion contains forward looking statements based on the environment as we currently see it and as such includes risks and uncertainties. If you refer to Duckhorn's earnings release, earnings presentation and the company's most recent SEC filings, you will see a discussion of factors that could cause the company's actual results to differ materially from these forward looking statements.

Speaker 1

Please remember, the company undertakes no obligation to update or revise these forward looking statements in the future. We will make a number of references to non GAAP financial measures. We believe that these measures provide investors with useful perspective on the underlying growth trends of the business and have included in our earnings release a full reconciliation of non GAAP financial measures to the most comparable GAAP measures. In addition, please note that all retail scanner data cited on today's call is according to the Zircona and will refer to dollar or unit consumption for the 12 week period ended January 28, 2024 and growth versus the same period in the prior year in U. S.

Speaker 1

Tracked channels unless otherwise noted. With that, I'll turn the call over to Deirdre.

Speaker 2

Thanks, Ben, and good afternoon, everyone. Thank you for joining us today to discuss our Q2 2024 financial performance. Following my opening remarks, Jennifer will walk us through our quarterly results and updated fiscal year 2024 financial guidance. Amid challenging market conditions, our net sales fell short of our expectations. However, Duckhorn Wines consistently outperformed the broader $15 and above luxury wine market as reported by Sarcana.

Speaker 2

While we expect to continue to take share and outpace the luxury market, we believe the softness across the industry will persist in the coming quarters. The industry growth rate for Luxury Wine over the past 12 weeks has been flat to 1%, which we expect to continue, and that is what we assume in our updated guidance for fiscal 2024. With the largest segment of the Duckhorn portfolio volume in the $15 to $25 price tier that continues to outperform the broader market, plus the strength of our brand equity and incremental initiatives in the second half. We believe we are well positioned to exceed industry growth. Despite these broader market headwinds, we delivered strong profitability in the Q2 and continued to take share as we focused on those factors within our control.

Speaker 2

Importantly, we grew adjusted EBITDA by approximately 10% to $42,700,000 and adjusted EBITDA margin of 41.5 percent, which is a 400 basis point improvement over the prior year period, driven by robust gross margins and strong operating cost management. Not only does this speak to the Duckhorn portfolio strength as a luxury wine operator, it is also evidence of our ability to manage our business effectively and profitably across multiple demand environments. To highlight our ability to outpace the broader market, we outperformed total wine by more than 300 basis points and the luxury wine market by nearly 200 basis points over the quarter according to SIR Canada data. However, while we continue to take share, distributor and retailer inventory adjustments did impact our top line results as we saw evidence of both tiers taking a cautious view of market growth and more assertively managing inventory. The industry outlook for the second half of our fiscal year remains cautious.

Speaker 2

Incorporating our second quarter results and the challenging market conditions, we are revising the midpoint of our full year guidance such that the implied second half growth rate is in the low to mid single digit range, which reflects a softer near term outlook for the industry, offset by Duckhorn's proven ability to outperform the luxury wine market. Our conviction in the second half comes from multiple factors, which I'll discuss here. But I also encourage you to refer to our new earnings presentation, which includes a slide detailing the building blocks of our second half expectations. As previously described, our outlook assumes the luxury wine market continues to perform as it has in the recent 12 week period, which has been in the flat to 1% range. We view our proven ability to exceed that industry growth rate as our baseline for the second half.

Speaker 2

On top of that baseline of steady state growth, we see additional second half upside of approximately 200 basis points to 300 basis points from 3 distinct initiatives. In order of magnitude, these three items are: 1st, innovation, which encompasses decoy featherweight, our new lower in calorie, lower in alcohol Sauvignon Blanc, as well as the introduction of an Appalachian specific decoy limited Paso Robles Cabernet Sauvignon, plus the continuation of strong growth in decoy limited offerings. 2nd, improved product availability in some of our most popular wines, including Duckhorn Chardonnay and Decoy Limited Merlot and 3rd, incremental programming with our distributors and retail partners, including reintroducing by the glass programs among other opportunities. These initiatives are expected to add additional upside to growth in the second half, contributing to our revised full year outlook for net sales between $395,000,000 $411,000,000 I'll now turn to the results from the quarter. In the wholesale channel, we saw distributor and retailer inventories decline in dollar terms as they reduced forward looking forecast to account for softer market conditions.

Speaker 2

Despite these challenges and the resulting impact on net sales, the Duckhorn brands continued to grow within the channel with consistent end consumer demand as supported by trailing SIRKANDA data. This underpins our confidence in a return to more normalized alignment between shipments and depletions over the longer term as we look past the near term industry softness. On the direct to consumer side, visitation at our tasting rooms is showing positive signs, but our club membership remains below pandemic highs. As we've previously discussed, we see meaningful opportunity for our DTC business, which is one of our 4 organic growth pillars. DTC, important in its own right as a sales and marketing channel, has a valuable halo effect on the wholesale business.

Speaker 2

We continue to focus on reaching consumers in the way that resonates most effectively. This includes the curation of ultra high end experiences as we leverage the opportunity to build lasting relationships with our most valuable customers. Drilling down within our portfolio, I want to take time to recognize Decoy, a brand we created more than 3 decades ago. It has consistently grown through varietal extensions and innovation. Today, decoy continues to delight consumers, generating strong growth in excess of its price tier and sustaining a position as one of the most popular luxury wines available, both from a sales and brand awareness perspective.

Speaker 2

Perhaps nothing speaks to the strength of the broader Decoy brand more than our success with Decoy Limited. Launched in 2020 at a higher price point, limited continues to deliver strong double digit growth in circa data. Finally, from a channel perspective, we continue to see growth in the number of accounts, both on premise and off premise that carry our line. This increase in accounts is a key part of our wholesale growth strategy and further proof of the strength of the Duckhorn portfolio as a whole, as well as individual brands within it. I also note that the acquisition of Sonoma Cautreier unlocks unique opportunity to introduce Dacquon Portfolio Wines to Sonoma Cutrer Vineyards accounts and vice versa.

Speaker 2

Based on our early analysis, we see significant opportunity to cross sell our brands post closing. The opportunity to increase the number of labels per account is considerable and something we're incredibly excited about as we look towards the close of this acquisition. Additionally, as part of our integration planning, we have initiated a comprehensive review of our wholesaler alignment strategy to ensure that the route to market for our combined portfolio is efficient and optimized for growth. Continuing with our acquisition of Sonoma Cattreya, I'll note that we remain on track to close this spring. We are acquiring an incredible asset that is a great fit within our portfolio brand architecture as evidenced by the opportunity to capitalize on incremental accounts and labels per account, as I just described.

Speaker 2

When we first announced our plans, we described approximately $5,000,000 of cost synergies, primarily in OpEx. With additional time and visibility in the intervening several months, we now believe that number to be the minimum in cost savings as we find additional opportunities to extract costs from the combined entity's operating expenses. We're making excellent progress and look forward to updating you when we close later this spring. I'll conclude by saying, while we have more work to do, we're pleased with the hard work and execution of our team in a challenging environment. The strength of the SIRKANA data speaks to our robust brand equity and supports our confidence in our ability to weather near term demand fluctuations, while continuing to drive sustained long term profitable growth.

Speaker 2

With that, I'll turn over to Jennifer to provide more details on the financial results for the quarter and our outlook for the year.

Speaker 3

Thank you, Dietra, and good afternoon, everyone. We continue to effectively navigate a dynamic demand environment. Despite the near term softness in net sales, we delivered profitability well above expectations on strong gross margins and active operating expense management. I'll now provide the results from the quarter. All comparisons are to the Q2 of fiscal 2023 unless otherwise stated.

Speaker 3

Beginning with the top line, net sales were $103,000,000 a decrease of 0.4% as the distributor and retail inventory reset extended beyond our initial expectations. By channel, wholesale to distributor net sales were flat in Q2. As previously discussed, net new accounts and labels per account were offset by tighter inventory controls across the supply chain. Despite these factors with our distributor and retail partners, we continue to deliver on our strategic objectives to leverage the brand and expand our wholesale accounts, both of which represent key drivers of our net sales growth. Distributor inventory days on hand was broadly in line with our expectations of 65 days.

Speaker 3

California wholesale direct to trade declined 2.6%, driven by the same factors that impacted wholesale to distributor net sales. The direct to consumer channel was down 4.3%, roughly in line with our expectations during what is typically a lighter quarter for the D2C business. As we previously noted, we continue to adjust our D2C business to position it for success amidst a period of post pandemic transition. Moving down the P and L. 2nd quarter gross profit was $58,300,000 a gross margin of 56.6%, up approximately 330 basis points year over year as we optimize our trade spend in line with the lower depletion volumes in the quarter.

Speaker 3

In keeping with our expectations for improved second half growth, we have trade spend to be more in line with our historical levels. SG and A was $29,200,000 a decrease of 1% year over year. On an adjusted basis, total SG and A declined $700,000 or 3 percent to $21,900,000 driven by strong cost management throughout the quarter. This represents 50 basis points of leverage despite flat net sales. Note that adjusted operating expenses exclude $1,800,000 of transaction costs, primarily related to our pending acquisition of Sonoma Cottreaux Vineyards.

Speaker 3

Net income was $15,900,000 or $0.14 per diluted share. Adjusted net income was 20,700,000 dollars or $0.18 per diluted share. Adjusted EBITDA was $42,700,000 an increase of 3,900,000 dollars or 10.1 percent year over year. Adjusted EBITDA margin improved 400 basis points versus the prior year period to 41.5 percent, driven by gross margin improvement and strong cost controls. At the end of the quarter, we had cash of $13,100,000 and total debt of $283,800,000 resulting in our leverage ratio of 1.9 times net debt due to the seasonality of grower payments.

Speaker 3

I'll now share our updated full year fiscal 2024 outlook, which reflects our 2nd quarter results as well as our current expectations for second half growth. These expectations are influenced by near term softness across the industry, but offset by both our proven ability to outperform Luxury Wine and incremental growth driven by multiple initiatives rolling out in the second half of the year. As a reminder, our guidance does not include our pending acquisition of Sonoma Catrare. For the full fiscal year 2024, we now expect net sales in the range of $395,000,000 to $411,000,000 which represents growth of approximately minus 2% to positive 2%, which implies low to mid single digit growth for the second half of twenty twenty four as Diedre discussed. For adjusted EBITDA, we expect a range of 145,000,000 to $150,000,000 or flat to 4% growth.

Speaker 3

This represents an adjusted EBITDA margin of 36.6% at the midpoint, up 80 basis points from our previous guidance as we continue to focus on execution and cost management. For adjusted EPS, we expect a range of $0.63 to $0.65 per diluted share. I also want to provide some color on what we expect from a seasonality perspective due primarily to the timing of our Costa Brown Appalachian Series offering, the largest annual release from our Costa Brown Winery brand. You can also find this detail in our accompanying presentation. As we've described previously, this release will be shipped in the Q3 rather than the Q4 as was the case in fiscal 2023.

Speaker 3

As a result, we expect significant variance between the 3rd and 4th quarter net sales growth rates versus the respective prior year quarter. More specifically, we expect a second half net sales split of approximately 53% in the 3rd quarter and 47% in the 4th quarter. On the gross margin front, two factors will impact gross margin in the second half of fiscal twenty twenty four, both of which are driven by an improvement in product availability for some of our most popular products. First, we're restarting our Wine by the Glass program, which drives sales both directly and indirectly through enhanced brand awareness, albeit at a lower margin. The second factor is increased trade spend relative to last year and the first half of the year.

Speaker 3

We continue to expect second half trade spend to return to historical levels and align with our growth expectations. As a result, we expect the fiscal 2024 3rd and 4th quarter gross margin to be below the high point achieved in the 2nd quarter. While 2nd quarter net sales were lower than anticipated, we are pleased with our ability to toggle the business to ensure we continue to deliver margin expansion. Importantly, we expect the inventory adjustments caused by a shifting post pandemic outlook will be smaller in the second half and anticipate they will be largely complete this fiscal year. As a leading luxury wine company with one of the strongest brands in the industry, we are confident in our ability to continue to take share and deliver sustained profitable long term growth.

Speaker 3

Thank you. I will now hand it back to Deidra.

Speaker 2

Thanks, Jennifer. I'm coming month mark as interim CEO of the Duckhorn portfolio. And despite the challenging industry dynamics, I'm pleased with the progress the organization is making to deliver on our future growth plans, including completion of the Sonoma Cautreaux acquisition and second half innovation launches. We remain committed to delivering sustained profitable growth and will always strive to create value in the long term for our shareholders. Our long term growth drivers remain consistent, leveraging our brand strength, evolving our portfolio, expanding our wholesale network, and growing our DTC channel.

Speaker 2

These drivers will support our growth through the current demand environment and beyond. Before I move to questions, I'll provide a brief update on our CEO search. The search committee has made great progress and has narrowed down the initial pool of candidates to several that the Board is very pleased with. And I look forward to updating you as we continue with the process. With that, Jennifer, Sean and I are available to take your questions.

Operator

Our first question is from Nik Modi with RBC. Your line is now open.

Speaker 4

Hi, thank you. Good afternoon, everyone. So just two quick questions. Deidra, I was hoping you can comment on just the overall consumption backdrop. Certainly, the change in guidance was a function of inventory dynamics, but I was wondering if you can just comment at the consumer level and in terms of from your perspective what you see happening.

Speaker 4

And then the second question was just you mentioned something about wholesale optimization. And so I was hoping you could just provide a little bit more clarity and maybe what you think about the California business and if you're rethinking your go to market in that state? Thank you.

Speaker 2

Okay, thanks. First, I'll give you my view on the consumer. Although I would say, as I'm sure you hear from many, this is quite a difficult time to forecast consumption. Clearly, we're fortunate to be operating in price tiers in the wine sector that actually are in growth and have remained in growth through much of what has been kind of a volatile post pandemic period. I think the reason for our guidance and what's reflected here is that we expect kind of a continued variable response from the consumer in terms of their behaviors, both in the on and off premise.

Speaker 2

And there's a dynamic happening that we're seeing that there seems to be more activity in the on premise, in particular versus what was happening in the pandemic levels, in the pandemic airtime, and that's affecting both our DTC and our kind of chain business in the off premise. The 0 to 1 range that we quote, that has been stable really for a period. Some periods, it's a little down. Some periods, it's a little up. But if you look across consecutive 12 week periods, which take out some of the bumps, that's pretty much that's been stable is probably even not the right word, but it hasn't deviated too much from that range.

Speaker 2

So I think as we come through this next 6 months, it will be important to see where everyone is expecting interest rates to come down and some abatement in inflation, what the consumer behavior looks like. I do think it's important to note that we're not seeing trading down much out of this price tier in our core consumers. People may be moving from some of the 20s into the 16 or 17, but we're not seeing evidence of people going from above 15 down to $10 I mean, that is not a trend that we're seeing and you can see that actually in the SIRKANNA data. So if we look forward, we're really barring any trigger that would show that there's a shift. We're just expecting that to continue for the rest of the fiscal year in any event as we see it play out.

Speaker 2

With respect to your second question on the distributors, yes, I mean, I think Duckhorn has been growing and is now significantly at a scale business, has a couple of big scale brands. And if you consider the acquisition, the pending acquisition of SonomaCoutre. So we thought this was the right moment for us to take a step back and look at our wholesaler relationships, how we're aligned. As you can imagine, the Duckhorn portfolio is represented in some states and Sonoma Cutria represented by a different wholesaler in the same state. So we had some alignment we needed to do anyway, and we decided to take a step back and do a full and comprehensive review with our wholesalers on thinking about the business going forward.

Speaker 2

And everything is on the table. I mean, we're looking at all of our business. We're, of course, happy with and we've talked about California before. But we will always kind of keep evaluating all of the potential opportunities as we think about that.

Speaker 4

Great. Thank you. I'll pass it on.

Speaker 3

Thanks, Nick.

Operator

Our next question is from Kamil Gharjwala with Jefferies. Your line is now open.

Speaker 5

Thanks everybody. This is a little bit of follow-up on Nick's question. I think we want to just try to really dig into what caused the wholesalers to decide that they have a much more negative view on the back half, which obviously led to the inventory corrections. In terms of like what are they observing or seeing to give them that sense? And then maybe the second piece is for quite some time, you've been a distribution story.

Speaker 5

And curious as we think about your guidance, how much incremental distribution as a contributor to sales growth is embedded in that?

Speaker 2

Okay. So let me start with the first question. Look, I can talk to you about what our wholesalers and distributors have conveyed to us as we've kind of came through the Q2 and kind of can see the weakness in their orders, even though we were still seeing growth in our business. And what I've been hearing and our first our guidance at the end of the Q1 expected this situation to abate. We thought and clearly, obviously, from our Q1 guidance that, that situation would improve, and it did not.

Speaker 2

In fact, it got a bit softer. And our wholesalers are kind of saying the same thing to us, which is that when you come through 2023, there has been softness in terms of the retail trade. What they saw as retailer destocking, retailers taking smaller deals in terms of the cases that they were buying and being more reticent about taking about buying inventory. So they were clearly managing their inventory. As the price increases stopped in grocery and they had to worry about their own working capital, increasing interest rates, etcetera.

Speaker 2

What our wholesalers have told us is they expected that to improve in the second half of twenty twenty three, and it didn't. So then when you got into the second half and through our second quarter, they weren't seeing improvement in terms of retailer behavior. So they then started taking a more conservative view themselves and manage inventory down. And I think the retailers are seeing what we all know and read about in the press about the concerns about the consumer on inflation and on food prices, etcetera, and are just looking to make sure that they're managing their inventories effectively. From the people that I've spoken to at wholesale say, look, they just don't believe this can continue much longer because inventory levels have now gotten to the point where the retailers do need to start to replay stock where there is growth.

Speaker 2

And that's what gives us some confidence because, of course, our brands are in growth and we would expect that our business will reflect the return to growth as retailers start to restock those products. So that was and then the second question

Speaker 3

I think Yes. Hey, Kamal. Thanks for the question. So from an account perspective, both our on premise and off premise grew their accounts over the course of the quarter. And as we look forward for growth, we absolutely still see opportunity and white space within our account base.

Speaker 3

So absolutely still part of our strategy, but that's also coupled with our other pillars of our strategy, which are our D2C business and our customer experience, our organic growth, our portfolio expansion like we've been demonstrating through Decoy Limited, Featherweight and now Decoy Paso as well as our inorganic growth like acquisitions which we're Catterer. So definitely front and center part of our growth strategy, but we are supporting that with other avenues as well.

Speaker 5

That's useful. Thank you.

Speaker 3

Thank you.

Operator

Our next question is from Lauren Lieberman with Barclays. Your line is now open.

Speaker 6

Thanks, Heather. Hi, everyone. I was curious if you could just talk a little bit about the free cash flow in the quarter, it changed pretty significantly. So I'd love a little bit more color on what's going on with free cash and the outlook for the year. Thanks.

Speaker 3

Yes. Thanks for the question. So we did have a big use of cash in the quarter due to our grower payments and that's all due to seasonality. And so that is reflected within there. And we typically don't give an outlook on our free cash flow, but it should normally follow our seasonality of our business.

Speaker 3

We will have the acquisition, which we will use through both internal cash as well as our credit facility to fund that as well.

Speaker 6

Okay. Great. Convergent is your recharge. Definitely, the wholesalers. You definitely will

Speaker 3

Oh, Lauren, you're cutting up a bit.

Speaker 6

Okay. Let me try again and if not, I'll do it offline. I was just saying you gave a lot of color on the conversations with wholesalers and there with retailers about carrying inventory and so on and do the end market demand feel okay. Can you having about the market itself flowing, consumer behavior being different, not in terms of trade down, but just in terms of overall consumption. And are you hearing in terms of their views being 2 steps closer to the consumer on when we get to sort of a healthier, more customary growth rate for the industry?

Speaker 6

Thanks.

Speaker 3

Yes. And you're cutting out quite a bit. So I'll pick up where I thought I heard the question, which was we don't have a crystal ball right now. We wish you did. But our guidance does reflect, at least in the short term, what we've been seeing historically and throughout Q2.

Speaker 3

And so we've just since we did see the data come through, we've tried to make sure that we've baked that into our guidance go forward.

Operator

Our next question is from Greg Porter with Evercore. Your line is now open.

Speaker 7

Hey guys, thank you for the time. Just a quick question on the underlying trends. Are you seeing some of the weakness in the category from when we try to, I guess, boil down to where it's actually sourcing from, are you seeing that the consumer is like working down pantry levels at home from purchases maybe made during COVID over the last few years? Or have you seen that the general consumption overall has also come down?

Speaker 2

It's hard to know that, Greg. It's hard to know exactly what was in the consumer's pantry. We know there was pantry loading. And so I think as we've come through 2023, the wisdom in the industry across beverage alcohol, in particular spirits and wine, the hypothesis is that some of the softness has been destocking of what the consumer has at home as well as a shift in behavior of occasions where they're going to the on premise more than the off premise. And while that, of course, is still business, it does tend to impact volume in terms of the timing of volume and where that volume is coming from.

Speaker 2

So we do see that. I don't know of any consistent or known other shift in consumption trends that are impacting the business right now in the near term other than normal consumer behavior responding to inflation and what's happening in terms of the overall market and the economy.

Speaker 7

Great. Thank you,

Speaker 6

guys.

Operator

Our next question is from Andrea Teixeira with JPMorgan. Your line is now open.

Speaker 8

Hey, good afternoon. This is Drew Levine on for Andrea. Thank you for taking our questions. So just hoping to be able to get some more context on the updated guidance. Maybe can you talk about how much of the lower guidance is kind of inventory adjustment relative to overall slower consumption trends.

Speaker 8

So if you could talk to kind of what your depletion trends were both in the quarter and kind of how you're thinking about depletions versus inventory in the second half, that would be helpful.

Speaker 2

I'll start and then Jennifer can add some more color. Look, we saw in the first half every year there is a in the second quarter, depletions exceed shipments. There's a build leading up to the holiday and then there's a reversal. What we did see in the Q2 was a much deeper reversal of that trend. So much in the Q2, depletions exceeded shipments by more than what we anticipated.

Speaker 2

As we come through the second half, we do expect that normalization to start to rebalance itself. And that is one of the underlying assumptions. If that doesn't happen to the degree we expect, we still think we're well within the guidance range because but we are expecting there to be more of a normalization. And again, based upon what I said on one of the earlier questions is that what our wholesalers are telling us is that they expect an improvement in that overall trend. And so we are anticipating that.

Speaker 2

We do think that our guidance if it doesn't reverse entirely as we expected, we're still well within that range. And I think the reason why our range is what it is, is because there are some unknowns about the pace of that reversal as well as some of the specifics of the industry growth rates.

Speaker 3

Yes. And I'll just I'll add on that.

Speaker 8

Thanks for that.

Speaker 3

What we see in our the inventory within our distributors as well quarter over quarter, it continued to come down this quarter. So it's well within where we target them. So there's not

Speaker 9

a lot of inventory out there. And as Jennifer mentioned, in our deck on Page 10, there is a second half growth drivers outlined that is probably helpful also in piecing together the other elements of your question.

Speaker 8

Okay, great. Thanks. And then just if I could have a follow-up. Can you talk about the competitive environment? Clearly, industry growth has slowed, but are you seeing any pickup, I guess, in promotional activity or the wholesalers or retailers kind of asking you for to increase activity behind the brands to kind of drive some demand?

Speaker 8

And that's in relation, I guess, as well to the strong gross margin performance over the past several quarters. So any thoughts there would be helpful.

Speaker 3

Yes. I think where you see more of the promotional activity really in the value segment, so below $15 versus where we're currently playing. And then from working with our distributors, we always have our standard promotions with them. We're not hearing or receiving requests for additional promotions. And what you saw in the quarter was actually we maintained where we do play within that promotional cadence.

Speaker 3

And we're also very mindful not to starting, for lack of a better word buying market share through increased promotions, because that's a hard model to sustain. So we're on track with our strategy.

Speaker 8

Thanks

Operator

so much. Our next question is from Andrew Strelzik with BMO. Your line is now open.

Speaker 10

Hey, good afternoon. Thanks for taking the questions. My first one is on the margin side. And I was hoping you could elaborate on some of the key margin drivers in the quarter, in particular, on the operating cost management that you referenced. And how durable are your confidence that you can hold on to those canes for the rest of this year?

Speaker 10

Maybe if you could comment on whether you think kind of the 2Q SG and A levels are a good run rate or how you expect that to trend through the rest of the year?

Speaker 3

Great. Thanks for the question. I'll start with margin. So we do believe that our Q2 margin was a high mark in the quarter based on where the sales landed and our trade spin landed, as well as there was a bit of mix underneath the covers from our different labels, which help also support the margin. As we spoke about in the call, there will be pressure in, the back half on margin based on we believe our trade spend will normalize and align up directly with our sales, which as you can tell are and as we mentioned are in the low to mid single digit growth rate for the back half.

Speaker 3

So that's what we expect on the margin line. From a cost perspective, coming into the year, there's been a lot of we knew the industry was receiving a lot of pressure and we've been managing our costs very tightly throughout the year and we will continue to do that in the back half. And you see that reflected in our adjusted EBITDA guidance above the midpoint of where our net sales guidance is. And really on the SG and A side or the op side, where we're cutting back is really on non essential items. We are not taking any cost out of the organization, which is supporting our growth.

Speaker 3

It's really just being extremely prudent, whether it be back office headcount or travel, entertainment, all that kind of stuff that we're just being very dogmatic about.

Speaker 10

Okay. That's helpful. And the second question, if I could, is on the acquisition. And I don't know how much you can really speak to this, but to the extent that you are expressing more optimism on the synergy side, what's kind of underpinning that? And then is there any sense that the consumer environment and inventory management could change the cadence to which you think you'll be able to kind of leverage SonomaCoutre and the broader portfolio relative to how you had initially expected?

Speaker 10

Thanks.

Speaker 3

Yes. Thanks for the question. On the synergies, when we announced the acquisition, that was our first draft going through based on the information we have. We've now had a few months to get a lot better information, by partnering with Brown Forman, and that's when we've been able to go a lot deeper in terms of where we think we can grab some synergies. And we'll have a lot more to share on specifically what those look like on future calls.

Speaker 3

And then from a consumer perspective, no, we don't that's a great brand and we feel very confident about the acquisition, about how it's going to play within our portfolio.

Speaker 9

Yes. And hey, it's Sean. I would just to Jennifer's point, it is just the continuation of more work we're doing and being positive and feeling good about what we're finding as we continue to prepare for integration later this spring. And as Jennifer noted, with respect to the strength of the brand, the SORCANA data, for example, is out there and shows it to continuing to do very well. And we think we're going to be able to add further value once it's part of our portfolio.

Speaker 10

Great. Thank you very much.

Operator

Our next question is from Peter Galvo with Bank of America. Your line is now open.

Speaker 8

Hey guys, good afternoon. Thanks for taking the question. I guess maybe just one, can you expand or unpack a little bit more on the restart on the I think you called it the Wine Body Glass program? Just how far into that are you now, kind of the early learnings you have?

Speaker 4

And I think you did mention it was going to be

Speaker 8

a bit of a margin drag. Just kind of help us understand that a little bit more. Thanks very much.

Speaker 3

Yes, great. Thanks for the question, Peter. Yes, so we were we had some inventory shortages and that's why we had to pull back in the Wine by the Glass program, specifically within the Decor, Chardonnay and few others. And we talked about a little bit about getting back into stock on those in the back half. So that's really what caused us to kind of lose some of that momentum.

Speaker 3

Starting it back up, we really do feel even though it is a bit of a drain on margin, it's a great way to expose people to all of our brands and get us some brand awareness. So, it's part of the program and we feel it's worth that investment because it pays off in dividends as we continue to get more people into our portfolio of brands.

Speaker 8

Thanks.

Operator

We have no additional questions at this time. So I'll pass the call back to the management team for any closing remarks.

Speaker 2

Okay. Thanks again everyone for joining us today for our Q2 performance and our guidance for fiscal year 'twenty four. I look forward to speaking with you again in June when we report our Q3 results. Cheers. Thanks, everyone.

Operator

Conference call. Thank you all for your participation. You may now disconnect your line.

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