TSE:FTG Firan Technology Group Q1 2024 Earnings Report C$8.65 -0.14 (-1.59%) As of 04/17/2025 04:00 PM Eastern Earnings HistoryForecast Firan Technology Group EPS ResultsActual EPSC$0.04Consensus EPS N/ABeat/MissN/AOne Year Ago EPSN/AFiran Technology Group Revenue ResultsActual Revenue$34.98 millionExpected RevenueN/ABeat/MissN/AYoY Revenue GrowthN/AFiran Technology Group Announcement DetailsQuarterQ1 2024Date4/11/2024TimeN/AConference Call DateFriday, April 12, 2024Conference Call Time8:30AM ETConference Call ResourcesConference Call AudioConference Call TranscriptInterim ReportEarnings HistoryCompany ProfilePowered by Firan Technology Group Q1 2024 Earnings Call TranscriptProvided by QuartrApril 12, 2024 ShareLink copied to clipboard.There are 6 speakers on the call. Operator00:00:00Good morning, everyone. My name is Karina and will be your conferencing operator today. I would like to welcome everyone to the FTG FTG Q1 2024 Analyst Call. All lines have been placed on mute. There will be a question and answer session. Operator00:00:33Please note that this call is being recorded. I would like to turn the call over to Mr. Brad Born, President and Chief Executive Officer of FTG. Mr. Born, you may proceed. Speaker 100:00:47Thank you. Good morning. I'm Brad Born, President and CEO of Frang Technology Group Corp, or FTG. Also on the call today is Jamie Creighton, our Chief Financial Officer. Before we go any further, I must caution you that this call may contain forward looking statements. Speaker 100:01:02Such statements are based on the current expectations of management of the company and inherently involve numerous risks and uncertainties known and unknown, including economic factors in the company's industry generally. The proceeding list is not exhaustive of all possible factors. Such forward looking statements are not guarantees of future performance, and actual events and results could differ materially from those expressed or implied by forward looking statements made by the company. The listener is cautioned to consider these and other factors carefully when making decisions with respect to the company and not place undue reliance on forward looking statements. The company does not undertake and has no specific intention to update any forward looking statements written or oral that may be made from time to time by or on its behalf, whether as a result of new information, future events or otherwise. Speaker 100:01:46So notwithstanding a few challenges in our Q1, I think 2024 is off to an excellent start. Before proceeding on the details, I'd like to thank everyone at FTG for their hard work and their contributions to our success. Our success is a team effort among all 6 90 staff across the company and around the world. In Q1 2024, FTG achieved some strong financial metrics, including 1st quarter bookings of $37,500,000 which was up 14% over Q1 2023. FTG's 1st quarter revenues of CAD35 1,000,000 were up 42% over Q1 2023. Speaker 100:02:24FTG achieved net earnings in Q1 20 20 4 of 1,100,000 and FTG achieved adjusted EBITDA of 4,600,000, which was up 42% over Q1 last year, in line with the revenue growth. Other accomplishments in Q1 include integration activities of both acquisitions that were completed last year progressed well in Q1 this year with improved throughput, improved pricing, cost savings well underway at Circus Minnetonka. And as of the start of Q2, the FTG ERP system is live there too. At Circus Haverhill, targeted cost savings have been achieved and we're well underway with targeted equipment investments and growth plans for the site. More activities and full ERP implementation for Circus Haverhill are planned for the balance of 2024. Speaker 100:03:13Also, in support of the new acquisitions and the overall growth of FTG, Leo LeCroy was hired as Executive Vice President, Circuits to oversee FTG's U. S. Circuits operations, including the newly acquired site. Leo has extensive senior management experience in the circuit board industry, selling into the defense market. FTG managed through a 6 week strike by 67 unionized workers at the FTG Aerospace Toronto facility, which resulted in decreased product shipments during Q1 of approximately $3,000,000 The reduction in revenue had a negative impact on net earnings of approximately $1,000,000 A new 4 year agreement with the employees was concluded in the quarter and the employees returned to work on January 23. Speaker 100:03:56The new contract expires in August 2027. As noted, customer orders received in Q1 totaled CAD 37,500,000 which resulted in a book to bill ratio of CAD1.07:one. As of March 1, 2024, FTG had total backlog of over CAD99 1,000,000, which is a 34% increase over Q1 last year. Jamie will provide some more details on our Q1 2024 results shortly. But first, let me turn to some external items. Speaker 100:04:25And starting with our end market demand remains strong. Airbus delivered 7 35 aircraft in 2023, but more importantly, they're looking to ramp to almost 1,000 aircraft annually in the next few years, and this is a 35% production rate increase. Airbus has a backlog of over 8,000 orders, which is over a decade worth of production at current production rates. In Q1 2024, Airbus delivered 142 planes, which is below the targeted delivery rate for the year, but March was almost half of the deliveries, so this bodes well for the future of the year. At Boeing, they shipped just under 500 planes last year and have plans to ramp their production by 40% to almost 700 planes in the next few years. Speaker 100:05:09Boeing's backlog is almost 6,000 planes, so also over decades worth of orders at current production rates. But the FAA has called Boeing to halt production rate increases while they ensure there is sufficient focus on quality. In Q1, Boeing delivered only 83 aircrafts due to ongoing reviews of the 737 mishap with Alaska Air a few months ago. Setting aside that mishap, it is clear why both companies are looking to ramp production. In the business jet market, Bombardier reported low double digit shipment growth for last year and the projections for 2024 are for a similar level of growth. Speaker 100:05:46Gulfstream is projecting a high single digit level of growth for 2024. This industry remains in a robust growth mode. In the helicopter market, Bell Helicopter reported 31% revenue growth last year and are projecting near 10% for 2024. All of this bodes well for us as we look to the future to further demand in the coming years. We also looked at results from key defense contractors, and all of them reported revenue growth last year of between 2% and 7.5 percent over the prior year. Speaker 100:06:16I have not seen Q1 results from the key players as of today, but ongoing geopolitical challenge in the world will keep defense spending high for a period of time. Looking at the longer term, Boeing's most recent 20 year forecast shows long term industry growth, and it continued to show 20% of all new aircraft deliveries going to China and close to 40% to Asia, as has been the case in A recent business jet market forecast from Honeywell similarly predicts growth in this market in the coming years with near term double digit growth rates for the sector. The simulator market mirrors the end market applications, but as we always remind everyone about this market, it is lumpy, so large year to year variations do occur. As we have said for many years, FTG's goal is to participate in all segments of the aerospace and defense markets as each moves through their independent business cycle. It is not often all segments are growing together as seems to be the case right now. Speaker 100:07:14Beyond all this, let me give you a quick update on some key metrics for FTG for Q1 2024. First, as already noted, the leading indicator of business is our bookings or new orders. As noted earlier, our bookings were $37,500,000 in the quarter. This resulted in a backlog of over $99,000,000 at quarter end. As we have reduced our lead times, this would typically put a damper on orders in the short term, but our results don't indicate this. Speaker 100:07:42In Q1, 2024, sales were $35,000,000 which is $10,300,000 above Q1 last year. Most of the growth is the result of the acquisitions. Obviously, the 6 week strike at our Aero Toronto site had a negative impact on the order of about $3,000,000 in the quarter. But the other aerospace sites experienced significant growth of almost 80% for AeroJatsworth and almost 45% for Aerospace Tianjin. At Circus Minnetonka, the run rate in Q1 was approximately $26,000,000 annually. Speaker 100:08:15This is showing good progress towards getting them to revenue levels where they will materially contribute to FPG sales and profitability. They had strong bookings in Q1. Looking at the businesses separately, in our Aerospace business sales were flat at about $10,000,000 in Q1 compared to Q1 last year. The strike at Aerofrono was a significant damper on what would otherwise have been a very strong quarter. On the circuit side of our business, sales in Q1 2024 were up $10,300,000 or 66% compared to Q1 last year. Speaker 100:08:49Approximately 93% of the growth came from the 2 acquisitions. Sales were down in Circus Fredericksburg and up at all the other legacy sites. Overall at FTG, our top five customers accounted for 66.5% of total revenue in the quarter. This compares to 58.6% last year. Also interesting to note, of the top 10 customers, 6 are customers shared between circuits and aerospace. Speaker 100:09:14We particularly like to see the shared customers as it means we're maximizing our penetration of these customers by selling both cockpit products and circuit boards. In Q1 2024, 27.7 percent of our total revenues came from our Aerospace business compared to 39.1% last year. The Aerospace business share decreased partly due to the impact from the acquisitions, which were both on the circuits business as well as the 6 week strike at our Aerotrono site. I would now like to turn the call over to Jamie, who will summarize our financial results for Q1 2024 and afterwards, I will talk about some key priorities we are working on. Speaker 200:09:52Jamie? Thanks, Brad. Good morning, everyone. I'd like to provide some additional detail on our financial performance for Q1. FTG achieved a gross margin of $8,900,000 or 25.5 percent in Q1 compared to $9,800,000 or 39.7 percent in Q1 2023. Speaker 200:10:14However, gross margin in Q1 2023 included $2,900,000 from the U. S. Employee Retention and Credit Program or ERC. Excluding the impact of government assistance, gross profit in Q1 'twenty three was $6,900,000 or 28%. So we have generated additional gross margin of $2,000,000 on incremental sales of 10.3. Speaker 200:10:40The gross margin rate is down 2.5 percentage points as a result of a couple of factors. Product mix is less favorable as we had 3,000,000 dollars of high margin simulator product shipments in the prior year quarter and minimal simulator revenue this quarter. This factor will also affect our Q2 2024. The 6 week strike at Aero Toronto resulted in lower fixed cost absorption and therefore reduced gross margin rate. However, this item is non recurring. Speaker 200:11:14Annualized revenue per employee was 214 ks in Q1 2024, approximately 3% better than Q1 'twenty three. Excluding the impact of the strike at Air and Toronto, we believe the increase would have been greater than 10%. The average exchange rate experienced in Q1 'twenty four and the prior year quarter was $1.35 so this is not a factor in our results. SG and A expense was $4,800,000 in Q1 'twenty four, up from $3,800,000 in 'twenty three, although as a percentage of sales, it declined to 13.7 percent from 15.2%. The dollar increase is due to $700,000 from the 2 acquisitions were not which were not in the Q1 'twenty three results and the fact that Q1 'twenty 23 SGA was reduced by $500,000 of government assistance. Speaker 200:12:12There are increases in some of the other operating expense line items, which in the case of amortization of intangibles, interest expense and accretion on lease liabilities are the direct result of the acquisitions. In the case of stock based compensation, primarily the result of a higher stock price. EBITDA was 4 point $6,000,000 or 13.0 percent of sales for Q1 'twenty four and there were no adjustments this quarter. We do believe however that the strike produced Q1 'twenty four EBITDA by approximately $1,000,000 Adjusted EBITDA for Q1 'twenty three, which included adjustments for government assistance and acquisition costs was $3,200,000 and also 13 0.0 percent of sales. On a trailing 12 month basis, revenue was $145,500,000 and adjusted EBITDA was $20,700,000 or 14.2 percent of sales. Speaker 200:13:13Our net debt as of Q1 'twenty four was $7,200,000 as compared to $3,600,000 at the end of Q4 end of 2023 year end, which equates to 0.35 times adjusted EBITDA. Free cash flow, defined as cash from operating and investing activities excluding acquisitions less lease liability payments, was an outflow of 3 point $4,000,000 for Q1 'twenty four. Capital expenditures in Q1 'twenty four were $3,400,000 as compared to $600,000 in Q1 'twenty three. Some capital expenditures were accelerated in support of efforts to complete FGG's scope of work related to the Government of Canada's Aerie program, which had a completion date of March 31, 'twenty four. Q1 2024 cash flow was further reduced by $2,300,000 for income tax payments and performance compensation payments of $1,600,000 both of which were driven by strong operating results in 2023. Speaker 200:14:24We also incurred $258,000 to settle the obligation of performance share units, sorry, we incurred in cash. The corporation used cash to buy shares in the market as opposed to issuing additional shares to avoid dilution. SDG has a total backlog of $99,300,000 as of Q1 'twenty four. Our focus will be delivering quality products to our customers on a timely basis and improving the efficiency of our operations. Our complete set of filings are now available on cedarplus.com. Speaker 200:15:00Back to Brad. Thanks, Jamie. Speaker 100:15:03Let me delve into some important items in the quarter and or for the future performance of FTG. We continue to believe our staffing levels are at or about the right level to support our turn demand. While we might tweak it slightly from site to site going forward, the majority of our staffing challenges are behind us. We always remember that we make money by building and shipping products. So we spend significant time and money and investment driving process and productivity improvements at all the sites. Speaker 100:15:31This can include manufacturing process improvements, but it can also involve items like automation. We now have a robotic system operational at our Circus Toronto facility, and maybe surprisingly also at our Aerospace Tianjin facility. We're looking to add the robotic process in our Aerospace Toronto facility during Q2 this year. But automation goes well beyond robotics. We also have a lot of very automated equipment across our circuit sites that help drive productivity and process control. Speaker 100:16:01Automation will continue to be an area for investment across the company. Looking forward, a key item for us remains the integration of our new sites. For Averill, we acquired them to grow our presence in the RF circuit board market for aerospace and defense application. While they are small with a historic run rate of about $4,000,000 to $5,000,000 we like their capability. The integration is relatively straightforward as we intend to continue to operate it in its current facility with its existing stack. Speaker 100:16:29Our focus will be to engage our sales team with them to find new customers and to grow the business. This is not an overnight process, but one where we can generate incremental margins and profitability to the benefit of FTG. Going along with this will be some focused CapEx to address a few production constraints to enable the growth. We did achieve some targeted material savings, which will benefit us going forward. And finally, we will move them onto FTG standard ERP system in the future. Speaker 100:16:57This project is just getting underway. Holiday's, or FTG Circus Minnetonka, was a larger acquisition. Their sales were over US31 $1,000,000 pre pandemic. They were hurt by the pandemic like we were. We see the long term positioning of Minnetonka to be a source of high technology circuit boards similar to our Toronto facility, but with the U. Speaker 100:17:18S. Footprint. This U. S. Footprint is critical as it will look to grow our share of the U. Speaker 100:17:23S. Only advanced circuit board market and advanced circuit boards in the defense market. In the short term, we have 3 priorities as we integrate Minnetonka into FTG. First, we need to ramp their throughput and revenues. In Q3 last year, we hired 2 key people. Speaker 100:17:40First, we hired Paul Gadbo, who has run our Fredericksburg facility until early in the pandemic. He is back on a temporary basis, but with his operational skills, he has helped us immeasurably. It will give us time to find the right person for the long term. Then, as noted earlier, we hired Leo LeCroy. He is a senior executive from within the circuit board industry with strong aerospace and defense experience. Speaker 100:18:03The immediate task was also focused on Minnetonka, but he has now moved into the larger role and is responsible for FTG's U. S. Based circuit board business. I am confident he will get huge benefit to FTG for the long term. But as it relates to Circus Minnetonka throughputs and revenues, we have closed about 50% of the gap to get back towards the pre pandemic run rate. Speaker 100:18:27We continue to see strong demand, so ramping throughput remains a priority item for this site. In Minnetonka, the second priority is to reduce material costs. We have identified cost savings opportunities that can benefit this site as they are now part of a larger company. It will take some time to achieve the savings as in some cases, it requires customers' approvals and internal engineering efforts. But when complete, they expect to achieve savings on the order of $1,000,000 annually. Speaker 100:18:55Our third priority is to improve pricing. We believe Minnetonka had not been sufficiently proactive in adjusting prices as costs went up over the past few years. We have had some successes already, and we will continue to address this. We want to ensure any inflationary costs incurred at that site over the past few years, whether material, labor or other, are passed through to the customers and not squeeze our margins. Beyond these actions, we have plans to move them to FTG's standard ERP system, and as of the start of Q2 this year, they have gone live. Speaker 100:19:25There is a transition period as we run out old jobs from the old system and ramp up jobs in the new system. Once fully complete, it will ensure this site operates and reports in our proven standard methodology. And lastly, while not an immediate integration item, when we bought the site, we believe that we could expand and grow their customer base focused on the U. S. Defense market. Speaker 100:19:47This has already started. We are seeing some real interest from numerous customers in adding this site to their approved suppliers list. This is good news. The bad news is it typically is a long process to get through a new site approval, but we will stay focused on this to grow the site in the coming years beyond the pre pandemic high point. In Q1, we continued to see strong demand across most sites. Speaker 100:20:10Our backlog in Q2 is over $53,000,000 including the new sites. While not a good metric, we ended Q1 with over $14,000,000 in past due orders, down from $18,000,000 at the end of Q3 last year, but up from $12,500,000 at year end. Over half the past two orders are at Aero Toronto. The strike at Aero Toronto is a big reason for their increase. To help drive this down as fast as possible, we have worked with our customers to shift some production from our Aerospace Toronto facility to other Aerospace facilities, at least for the short term. Speaker 100:20:44This should help in Q2 and beyond to recover back to strong on time performance across all FTG sites. As always, there are possible downsides or headwinds that could impact our future performance. With the labor contract settled at Aero Toronto, we have at least 3 years before another labor contract expires. So this risk is mitigated for a few years. We always focus on the Canadian U. Speaker 100:21:08S. Dollar exchange rate as a possible risk, but this has been pretty stable for a period of time at attractive rates. Supplying chain risks are diminishing. While we see some items with extended lead times, it is less than what we are experiencing early in 2023. Also, maybe just to ensure everyone's aware, we've now increased our SG and A costs by about $1,000,000 to $1,500,000 quarterly on about $10,000,000 in incremental sales from the acquisitions. Speaker 100:21:35Included in this is about $250,000 per quarter and higher financing costs compared to Q1 last year, as well as higher labor costs for SG and A staff at the new sites and higher lease accretion costs through the leases tied to the new acquisitions. We are expecting to grow in 2024 as compared to 2023, like we just did in Q1. The easiest aspect of our growth will be having the acquisitions for the full 12 months this year compared to only 7 months in 2023. This should add an estimated $12,000,000 in incremental sales for 2024. If we can ramp production on sales at the newly acquired sites, this would further add to the growth. Speaker 100:22:14And we continue to win new programs across the company that will layer on incremental organic growth on top of all of this. Beyond this, we continue to see strong customer demand, as I discussed earlier. And we will still see further benefit from the high value assembly orders we booked early in 2023, as these will have these will be full year benefits for us in 2024. These assemblies go on Boeing and Airbus aircraft. And we will see the benefit of the C919 program in China moving into production. Speaker 100:22:49We shipped our first production orders last year, and we expect to see significant production rate increases later in 2024. With the more complex geopolitical situation in China, I'm sure there are still concerns about our activities there. But in 2023, both our operations in China had their best sales year ever. And this continued in Q1 with the sites seeing 13% and 45% growth compared to Q1 last year. As I've mentioned in previous quarters, we repatriated cash back to Canada during 20222023. Speaker 100:23:20In total, we've now brought back $2,200,000 in cash. By doing this, we don't have surplus cash stranded in China and it reduces our exposure if things ever deteriorated between China and the West. We anticipate bringing back more cash in 2024. But we are being cautious about our operations in China as any further increase in tensions between China and other countries could impact our operations there. We continue to assess possible corporate development opportunities that could fit with either of our businesses. Speaker 100:23:52There are opportunities out there, but it's too early to know if they would be a good fit and a good deal for FTG. With our focus on operational excellence in all parts of FTG, our strong financial performance last year and in Q1 this year, our recent acquisitions and our key sales wins, we are confident we are on a strong long term growth trajectory. This concludes our presentation. I thank you for your attention. I would now like to open the phones for your questions. Speaker 100:24:19Karina? Operator00:24:57Your first question comes from Nick Corcoran from Acumen. Please go ahead. Speaker 300:25:04Good morning, guys. A couple of questions for me. The first is the backlog is about 99,000,000 dollars How much do you expect to get through in the Q2? Speaker 100:25:14So total backlog is $99,000,000 Backlog due in Q2 is $53,000,000 I think I said. We're not shipping $53,000,000 That I guarantee. But I do think a couple of factors for Q2. Q2 is typically one of our better quarters. There's less holidays, less vacation days. Speaker 100:25:37There's no Christmas shutdown. So we get kind of maximum number of production days, which is a benefit to us. So I would hope Q2 this year would be in line or possibly a little bit higher than Q4 last year. Speaker 300:25:57Great. And then just with the issues that Boeing is having, have you seen any signs in the supply chain that they might be scaling back any of their orders? Speaker 100:26:10No. We have seen no impact as of now. And a couple of things happened, but this industry, it's a big effort to change production rates, whether you're changing them up or changing them down. And so as of now, Boeing has made no effort, no attempt to change any production rates on their aircraft. They're holding them where they are. Speaker 100:26:34They might not be shipping planes out to customers, but the production rates are not impacted. And I think they believe they will get through the reviews and they really are through most of the reviews and get back to shipping product to customers. So as long as the production rates hold, there is no impact to us. Speaker 300:26:56And then one of the things you mentioned in your prepared remarks is you've been able to improve pricing. How much of the pricing do you think you pass through to date? Speaker 100:27:06That's a good question. And honest answer, Nick, for Q1, I don't have a number. We're looking at this every day on opportunities and every day as contracts renew. We set target margins for what we're trying to achieve. And so if a contract is renewing, we review margins on a part number by part number basis, and we make sure we are achieving our objective. Speaker 100:27:34And going along with that, we're really trying to be careful going forward, and we've been doing this for more than a year now. We when we're renewing contracts with customers, we're now either doing annual pricing, which means we can relook at it on a yearly basis, or we will embed a escalation clause in the pricing or in the contract so that there's a mechanism to automatically adjust prices on a go forward basis. So we're taking these steps to make sure that we can consistently pass on any incremental cost increases through to the customer and not see our margin squeeze. Speaker 300:28:18Great. Then one last question for me. In terms of CapEx for fiscal 'twenty four, any indication what you're expecting for the year? Speaker 200:28:31CapEx for the rest of the year will be, I'm going to say normal, Nick, with the exception that we do have another maintenance capital. We have some roof we have to address the roof in Circuit of Toronto, which is a relatively significant item. It's around the $1,000,000 level, which will occur kind of Q2, Q3 time period, but the rest excluding that CapEx for the rest of the year ought to be kind of normal. Operator00:29:33Your next question comes from Eric Chu. Please go ahead. Mr. Eric Chu, your line is open. Please go ahead. Speaker 400:29:52Hi, Brad. Congrats on a great quarter. Quick question for you regarding your Asian exposure and exposure to COMAC. Do you expect this to be a material lift in the coming year or coming 2 years? And if so, do you have a general sense on what that quantum would be? Speaker 100:30:14The shorter answer is yes. We've been engaged in the C919 program for a decade now. And I think when we started, we thought the development process was going to be a lot faster. But it is done in any case. And the but from the beginning, there were projections for this aircraft of production rates ramping to the 140 ish planes a year. Speaker 100:30:44That is still their plan. And for us, that's not going to happen this year, to be clear, but they are ramping. They're into real production. And it's going to ramp each year. I think to us, it's a material, maybe not a life changing amount, but I think it would be on the order of $5,000,000 in incremental revenue starting in the near future and ramping from there. Operator00:31:32Your next question comes from Alan Jacobs. Please go ahead. Speaker 500:31:38Hi, Brad. My question is on the impact of the strike. If it was $3,000,000 in sales, how come it could be have as much as 1,000,000 dollars impact on net income, which is like a 33% margin? I mean, is there something unusual that happened because even if that facility had higher than average margins, it just seems 33% like is a big number as a percent of the lost sales? Speaker 100:32:03Yes, but it's really just tied to STG's economics. We have fixed costs at all our sites that are about 30%, which stay, whether you ship nothing or ship a lot, the fixed costs are fixed, hence the name. So our contribution margin on incremental revenue, whether it's going up or going down, is more on the order of 33% or somewhere in that ballpark. So it's an estimate from us to be clear, because we don't have an exact number on what didn't ship and therefore what margin was not achieved. But the key is the contribution margin impact to the site and the FTG, not just a normalized margin across the business. Speaker 500:32:52But what about all the expenses, including taxes and other things that or the impact of taxes on that 1,000,000 dollars Speaker 100:33:01Sure. I mean, there is impacts from taxes. But again, to be fair, we're not trying to get a really precise number on this. We're trying to give a ballpark estimate. And so we're saying it was about a third of the revenue was the bottom line impact to us. Speaker 100:33:20If you want to assume it's a little bit less or a little bit more, that's fair. I hear you. But I think it's a pretty reasonable estimate. It's somewhere in that ballpark. Just Speaker 200:33:33to be clear, the $1,000,000 estimate is a pretax number. We also refer to $75,000,000 as the estimated after tax impact. Operator00:34:10Your next question comes from Eric Chu. Please go ahead. Mr. Chu, your line is open. Please go ahead. Speaker 400:34:26Hi, Brad. Are you planning on any acquisitions this coming year or the next couple of years, specifically in North America? Or is it mostly Chinese corporate development targets you're assessing? Speaker 100:34:42Our history and our I guess, our plan going forward is we're just going to try to grow the business, and we're trying to we would like to layer on acquisitions. Timing of them is always uncertain. We have to find targets. They have to be willing to talk. There has to be a deal that makes sense. Speaker 100:35:02And so will there be one to happen this year or next year? I hope so, but for sure no guarantees. In terms of what we would be looking at, I would say it could be a number of things. In some cases, we're looking to add technology. I think if you look at the IMI acquisition last year, we're trying to get some RF circuit board technology into the business. Speaker 100:35:26So that was a technology acquisition. At some point, and again, I don't know if it'd be this year, next year or beyond, at some point, I believe it's in FTG's interest to have a footprint in Europe. Good or bad, Airbus is outperforming Boeing these days. And if you want to grow your share with Airbus, it's easier to do it from a U. S. Speaker 100:35:51Or from a European footprint. Similarly, there's a lot of increased defense spending going on in Europe. They're closer to some of the ongoing conflicts. European defense spending, if you look at it as an entity as opposed to individual countries, that spending is significant, getting close to what the U. S. Speaker 100:36:11Spends. So it's kind of a second reason to be in Europe. And really along those same lines, another area that geographically could be of interest to us at some point would be India. We look at the defense spending across the world. U. Speaker 100:36:26S. Is for sure number 1. Europe is significant. Russia and China are not markets we're going to pursue. And next on the list is India. Speaker 100:36:36So the Indian market is one that at some point we could address as well. So there are a number of factors we're looking at in terms of what future acquisitions could do. And we just got to tie it back to what's available and what's a reasonable deal. So we are looking. We'd love to do one in the next couple of years. Speaker 400:37:00There Operator00:37:09There are no further questions at this time. I would like to turn the call over back to Mr. Brad Borne. Please continue. Speaker 100:37:16Thank you. A replay of the call will be available until Sunday, May 12, at the numbers noted in our press release. The replay will also be available on our website in a few days. I thank you all for your interest and participation. Thank you.Read morePowered by Conference Call Audio Live Call not available Earnings Conference CallFiran Technology Group Q1 202400:00 / 00:00Speed:1x1.25x1.5x2x Earnings DocumentsInterim report Firan Technology Group Earnings HeadlinesWhere I’d Invest $1,000 in the TSX TodayApril 18 at 7:59 PM | msn.comAcumen Capital Boosts Firan Technology Group (TSE:FTG) Price Target to C$12.00April 13, 2025 | americanbankingnews.comHow War with China Could Start in 128 DaysThe clock is ticking. Those who aren't prepared could lose everything. 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There are 6 speakers on the call. Operator00:00:00Good morning, everyone. My name is Karina and will be your conferencing operator today. I would like to welcome everyone to the FTG FTG Q1 2024 Analyst Call. All lines have been placed on mute. There will be a question and answer session. Operator00:00:33Please note that this call is being recorded. I would like to turn the call over to Mr. Brad Born, President and Chief Executive Officer of FTG. Mr. Born, you may proceed. Speaker 100:00:47Thank you. Good morning. I'm Brad Born, President and CEO of Frang Technology Group Corp, or FTG. Also on the call today is Jamie Creighton, our Chief Financial Officer. Before we go any further, I must caution you that this call may contain forward looking statements. Speaker 100:01:02Such statements are based on the current expectations of management of the company and inherently involve numerous risks and uncertainties known and unknown, including economic factors in the company's industry generally. The proceeding list is not exhaustive of all possible factors. Such forward looking statements are not guarantees of future performance, and actual events and results could differ materially from those expressed or implied by forward looking statements made by the company. The listener is cautioned to consider these and other factors carefully when making decisions with respect to the company and not place undue reliance on forward looking statements. The company does not undertake and has no specific intention to update any forward looking statements written or oral that may be made from time to time by or on its behalf, whether as a result of new information, future events or otherwise. Speaker 100:01:46So notwithstanding a few challenges in our Q1, I think 2024 is off to an excellent start. Before proceeding on the details, I'd like to thank everyone at FTG for their hard work and their contributions to our success. Our success is a team effort among all 6 90 staff across the company and around the world. In Q1 2024, FTG achieved some strong financial metrics, including 1st quarter bookings of $37,500,000 which was up 14% over Q1 2023. FTG's 1st quarter revenues of CAD35 1,000,000 were up 42% over Q1 2023. Speaker 100:02:24FTG achieved net earnings in Q1 20 20 4 of 1,100,000 and FTG achieved adjusted EBITDA of 4,600,000, which was up 42% over Q1 last year, in line with the revenue growth. Other accomplishments in Q1 include integration activities of both acquisitions that were completed last year progressed well in Q1 this year with improved throughput, improved pricing, cost savings well underway at Circus Minnetonka. And as of the start of Q2, the FTG ERP system is live there too. At Circus Haverhill, targeted cost savings have been achieved and we're well underway with targeted equipment investments and growth plans for the site. More activities and full ERP implementation for Circus Haverhill are planned for the balance of 2024. Speaker 100:03:13Also, in support of the new acquisitions and the overall growth of FTG, Leo LeCroy was hired as Executive Vice President, Circuits to oversee FTG's U. S. Circuits operations, including the newly acquired site. Leo has extensive senior management experience in the circuit board industry, selling into the defense market. FTG managed through a 6 week strike by 67 unionized workers at the FTG Aerospace Toronto facility, which resulted in decreased product shipments during Q1 of approximately $3,000,000 The reduction in revenue had a negative impact on net earnings of approximately $1,000,000 A new 4 year agreement with the employees was concluded in the quarter and the employees returned to work on January 23. Speaker 100:03:56The new contract expires in August 2027. As noted, customer orders received in Q1 totaled CAD 37,500,000 which resulted in a book to bill ratio of CAD1.07:one. As of March 1, 2024, FTG had total backlog of over CAD99 1,000,000, which is a 34% increase over Q1 last year. Jamie will provide some more details on our Q1 2024 results shortly. But first, let me turn to some external items. Speaker 100:04:25And starting with our end market demand remains strong. Airbus delivered 7 35 aircraft in 2023, but more importantly, they're looking to ramp to almost 1,000 aircraft annually in the next few years, and this is a 35% production rate increase. Airbus has a backlog of over 8,000 orders, which is over a decade worth of production at current production rates. In Q1 2024, Airbus delivered 142 planes, which is below the targeted delivery rate for the year, but March was almost half of the deliveries, so this bodes well for the future of the year. At Boeing, they shipped just under 500 planes last year and have plans to ramp their production by 40% to almost 700 planes in the next few years. Speaker 100:05:09Boeing's backlog is almost 6,000 planes, so also over decades worth of orders at current production rates. But the FAA has called Boeing to halt production rate increases while they ensure there is sufficient focus on quality. In Q1, Boeing delivered only 83 aircrafts due to ongoing reviews of the 737 mishap with Alaska Air a few months ago. Setting aside that mishap, it is clear why both companies are looking to ramp production. In the business jet market, Bombardier reported low double digit shipment growth for last year and the projections for 2024 are for a similar level of growth. Speaker 100:05:46Gulfstream is projecting a high single digit level of growth for 2024. This industry remains in a robust growth mode. In the helicopter market, Bell Helicopter reported 31% revenue growth last year and are projecting near 10% for 2024. All of this bodes well for us as we look to the future to further demand in the coming years. We also looked at results from key defense contractors, and all of them reported revenue growth last year of between 2% and 7.5 percent over the prior year. Speaker 100:06:16I have not seen Q1 results from the key players as of today, but ongoing geopolitical challenge in the world will keep defense spending high for a period of time. Looking at the longer term, Boeing's most recent 20 year forecast shows long term industry growth, and it continued to show 20% of all new aircraft deliveries going to China and close to 40% to Asia, as has been the case in A recent business jet market forecast from Honeywell similarly predicts growth in this market in the coming years with near term double digit growth rates for the sector. The simulator market mirrors the end market applications, but as we always remind everyone about this market, it is lumpy, so large year to year variations do occur. As we have said for many years, FTG's goal is to participate in all segments of the aerospace and defense markets as each moves through their independent business cycle. It is not often all segments are growing together as seems to be the case right now. Speaker 100:07:14Beyond all this, let me give you a quick update on some key metrics for FTG for Q1 2024. First, as already noted, the leading indicator of business is our bookings or new orders. As noted earlier, our bookings were $37,500,000 in the quarter. This resulted in a backlog of over $99,000,000 at quarter end. As we have reduced our lead times, this would typically put a damper on orders in the short term, but our results don't indicate this. Speaker 100:07:42In Q1, 2024, sales were $35,000,000 which is $10,300,000 above Q1 last year. Most of the growth is the result of the acquisitions. Obviously, the 6 week strike at our Aero Toronto site had a negative impact on the order of about $3,000,000 in the quarter. But the other aerospace sites experienced significant growth of almost 80% for AeroJatsworth and almost 45% for Aerospace Tianjin. At Circus Minnetonka, the run rate in Q1 was approximately $26,000,000 annually. Speaker 100:08:15This is showing good progress towards getting them to revenue levels where they will materially contribute to FPG sales and profitability. They had strong bookings in Q1. Looking at the businesses separately, in our Aerospace business sales were flat at about $10,000,000 in Q1 compared to Q1 last year. The strike at Aerofrono was a significant damper on what would otherwise have been a very strong quarter. On the circuit side of our business, sales in Q1 2024 were up $10,300,000 or 66% compared to Q1 last year. Speaker 100:08:49Approximately 93% of the growth came from the 2 acquisitions. Sales were down in Circus Fredericksburg and up at all the other legacy sites. Overall at FTG, our top five customers accounted for 66.5% of total revenue in the quarter. This compares to 58.6% last year. Also interesting to note, of the top 10 customers, 6 are customers shared between circuits and aerospace. Speaker 100:09:14We particularly like to see the shared customers as it means we're maximizing our penetration of these customers by selling both cockpit products and circuit boards. In Q1 2024, 27.7 percent of our total revenues came from our Aerospace business compared to 39.1% last year. The Aerospace business share decreased partly due to the impact from the acquisitions, which were both on the circuits business as well as the 6 week strike at our Aerotrono site. I would now like to turn the call over to Jamie, who will summarize our financial results for Q1 2024 and afterwards, I will talk about some key priorities we are working on. Speaker 200:09:52Jamie? Thanks, Brad. Good morning, everyone. I'd like to provide some additional detail on our financial performance for Q1. FTG achieved a gross margin of $8,900,000 or 25.5 percent in Q1 compared to $9,800,000 or 39.7 percent in Q1 2023. Speaker 200:10:14However, gross margin in Q1 2023 included $2,900,000 from the U. S. Employee Retention and Credit Program or ERC. Excluding the impact of government assistance, gross profit in Q1 'twenty three was $6,900,000 or 28%. So we have generated additional gross margin of $2,000,000 on incremental sales of 10.3. Speaker 200:10:40The gross margin rate is down 2.5 percentage points as a result of a couple of factors. Product mix is less favorable as we had 3,000,000 dollars of high margin simulator product shipments in the prior year quarter and minimal simulator revenue this quarter. This factor will also affect our Q2 2024. The 6 week strike at Aero Toronto resulted in lower fixed cost absorption and therefore reduced gross margin rate. However, this item is non recurring. Speaker 200:11:14Annualized revenue per employee was 214 ks in Q1 2024, approximately 3% better than Q1 'twenty three. Excluding the impact of the strike at Air and Toronto, we believe the increase would have been greater than 10%. The average exchange rate experienced in Q1 'twenty four and the prior year quarter was $1.35 so this is not a factor in our results. SG and A expense was $4,800,000 in Q1 'twenty four, up from $3,800,000 in 'twenty three, although as a percentage of sales, it declined to 13.7 percent from 15.2%. The dollar increase is due to $700,000 from the 2 acquisitions were not which were not in the Q1 'twenty three results and the fact that Q1 'twenty 23 SGA was reduced by $500,000 of government assistance. Speaker 200:12:12There are increases in some of the other operating expense line items, which in the case of amortization of intangibles, interest expense and accretion on lease liabilities are the direct result of the acquisitions. In the case of stock based compensation, primarily the result of a higher stock price. EBITDA was 4 point $6,000,000 or 13.0 percent of sales for Q1 'twenty four and there were no adjustments this quarter. We do believe however that the strike produced Q1 'twenty four EBITDA by approximately $1,000,000 Adjusted EBITDA for Q1 'twenty three, which included adjustments for government assistance and acquisition costs was $3,200,000 and also 13 0.0 percent of sales. On a trailing 12 month basis, revenue was $145,500,000 and adjusted EBITDA was $20,700,000 or 14.2 percent of sales. Speaker 200:13:13Our net debt as of Q1 'twenty four was $7,200,000 as compared to $3,600,000 at the end of Q4 end of 2023 year end, which equates to 0.35 times adjusted EBITDA. Free cash flow, defined as cash from operating and investing activities excluding acquisitions less lease liability payments, was an outflow of 3 point $4,000,000 for Q1 'twenty four. Capital expenditures in Q1 'twenty four were $3,400,000 as compared to $600,000 in Q1 'twenty three. Some capital expenditures were accelerated in support of efforts to complete FGG's scope of work related to the Government of Canada's Aerie program, which had a completion date of March 31, 'twenty four. Q1 2024 cash flow was further reduced by $2,300,000 for income tax payments and performance compensation payments of $1,600,000 both of which were driven by strong operating results in 2023. Speaker 200:14:24We also incurred $258,000 to settle the obligation of performance share units, sorry, we incurred in cash. The corporation used cash to buy shares in the market as opposed to issuing additional shares to avoid dilution. SDG has a total backlog of $99,300,000 as of Q1 'twenty four. Our focus will be delivering quality products to our customers on a timely basis and improving the efficiency of our operations. Our complete set of filings are now available on cedarplus.com. Speaker 200:15:00Back to Brad. Thanks, Jamie. Speaker 100:15:03Let me delve into some important items in the quarter and or for the future performance of FTG. We continue to believe our staffing levels are at or about the right level to support our turn demand. While we might tweak it slightly from site to site going forward, the majority of our staffing challenges are behind us. We always remember that we make money by building and shipping products. So we spend significant time and money and investment driving process and productivity improvements at all the sites. Speaker 100:15:31This can include manufacturing process improvements, but it can also involve items like automation. We now have a robotic system operational at our Circus Toronto facility, and maybe surprisingly also at our Aerospace Tianjin facility. We're looking to add the robotic process in our Aerospace Toronto facility during Q2 this year. But automation goes well beyond robotics. We also have a lot of very automated equipment across our circuit sites that help drive productivity and process control. Speaker 100:16:01Automation will continue to be an area for investment across the company. Looking forward, a key item for us remains the integration of our new sites. For Averill, we acquired them to grow our presence in the RF circuit board market for aerospace and defense application. While they are small with a historic run rate of about $4,000,000 to $5,000,000 we like their capability. The integration is relatively straightforward as we intend to continue to operate it in its current facility with its existing stack. Speaker 100:16:29Our focus will be to engage our sales team with them to find new customers and to grow the business. This is not an overnight process, but one where we can generate incremental margins and profitability to the benefit of FTG. Going along with this will be some focused CapEx to address a few production constraints to enable the growth. We did achieve some targeted material savings, which will benefit us going forward. And finally, we will move them onto FTG standard ERP system in the future. Speaker 100:16:57This project is just getting underway. Holiday's, or FTG Circus Minnetonka, was a larger acquisition. Their sales were over US31 $1,000,000 pre pandemic. They were hurt by the pandemic like we were. We see the long term positioning of Minnetonka to be a source of high technology circuit boards similar to our Toronto facility, but with the U. Speaker 100:17:18S. Footprint. This U. S. Footprint is critical as it will look to grow our share of the U. Speaker 100:17:23S. Only advanced circuit board market and advanced circuit boards in the defense market. In the short term, we have 3 priorities as we integrate Minnetonka into FTG. First, we need to ramp their throughput and revenues. In Q3 last year, we hired 2 key people. Speaker 100:17:40First, we hired Paul Gadbo, who has run our Fredericksburg facility until early in the pandemic. He is back on a temporary basis, but with his operational skills, he has helped us immeasurably. It will give us time to find the right person for the long term. Then, as noted earlier, we hired Leo LeCroy. He is a senior executive from within the circuit board industry with strong aerospace and defense experience. Speaker 100:18:03The immediate task was also focused on Minnetonka, but he has now moved into the larger role and is responsible for FTG's U. S. Based circuit board business. I am confident he will get huge benefit to FTG for the long term. But as it relates to Circus Minnetonka throughputs and revenues, we have closed about 50% of the gap to get back towards the pre pandemic run rate. Speaker 100:18:27We continue to see strong demand, so ramping throughput remains a priority item for this site. In Minnetonka, the second priority is to reduce material costs. We have identified cost savings opportunities that can benefit this site as they are now part of a larger company. It will take some time to achieve the savings as in some cases, it requires customers' approvals and internal engineering efforts. But when complete, they expect to achieve savings on the order of $1,000,000 annually. Speaker 100:18:55Our third priority is to improve pricing. We believe Minnetonka had not been sufficiently proactive in adjusting prices as costs went up over the past few years. We have had some successes already, and we will continue to address this. We want to ensure any inflationary costs incurred at that site over the past few years, whether material, labor or other, are passed through to the customers and not squeeze our margins. Beyond these actions, we have plans to move them to FTG's standard ERP system, and as of the start of Q2 this year, they have gone live. Speaker 100:19:25There is a transition period as we run out old jobs from the old system and ramp up jobs in the new system. Once fully complete, it will ensure this site operates and reports in our proven standard methodology. And lastly, while not an immediate integration item, when we bought the site, we believe that we could expand and grow their customer base focused on the U. S. Defense market. Speaker 100:19:47This has already started. We are seeing some real interest from numerous customers in adding this site to their approved suppliers list. This is good news. The bad news is it typically is a long process to get through a new site approval, but we will stay focused on this to grow the site in the coming years beyond the pre pandemic high point. In Q1, we continued to see strong demand across most sites. Speaker 100:20:10Our backlog in Q2 is over $53,000,000 including the new sites. While not a good metric, we ended Q1 with over $14,000,000 in past due orders, down from $18,000,000 at the end of Q3 last year, but up from $12,500,000 at year end. Over half the past two orders are at Aero Toronto. The strike at Aero Toronto is a big reason for their increase. To help drive this down as fast as possible, we have worked with our customers to shift some production from our Aerospace Toronto facility to other Aerospace facilities, at least for the short term. Speaker 100:20:44This should help in Q2 and beyond to recover back to strong on time performance across all FTG sites. As always, there are possible downsides or headwinds that could impact our future performance. With the labor contract settled at Aero Toronto, we have at least 3 years before another labor contract expires. So this risk is mitigated for a few years. We always focus on the Canadian U. Speaker 100:21:08S. Dollar exchange rate as a possible risk, but this has been pretty stable for a period of time at attractive rates. Supplying chain risks are diminishing. While we see some items with extended lead times, it is less than what we are experiencing early in 2023. Also, maybe just to ensure everyone's aware, we've now increased our SG and A costs by about $1,000,000 to $1,500,000 quarterly on about $10,000,000 in incremental sales from the acquisitions. Speaker 100:21:35Included in this is about $250,000 per quarter and higher financing costs compared to Q1 last year, as well as higher labor costs for SG and A staff at the new sites and higher lease accretion costs through the leases tied to the new acquisitions. We are expecting to grow in 2024 as compared to 2023, like we just did in Q1. The easiest aspect of our growth will be having the acquisitions for the full 12 months this year compared to only 7 months in 2023. This should add an estimated $12,000,000 in incremental sales for 2024. If we can ramp production on sales at the newly acquired sites, this would further add to the growth. Speaker 100:22:14And we continue to win new programs across the company that will layer on incremental organic growth on top of all of this. Beyond this, we continue to see strong customer demand, as I discussed earlier. And we will still see further benefit from the high value assembly orders we booked early in 2023, as these will have these will be full year benefits for us in 2024. These assemblies go on Boeing and Airbus aircraft. And we will see the benefit of the C919 program in China moving into production. Speaker 100:22:49We shipped our first production orders last year, and we expect to see significant production rate increases later in 2024. With the more complex geopolitical situation in China, I'm sure there are still concerns about our activities there. But in 2023, both our operations in China had their best sales year ever. And this continued in Q1 with the sites seeing 13% and 45% growth compared to Q1 last year. As I've mentioned in previous quarters, we repatriated cash back to Canada during 20222023. Speaker 100:23:20In total, we've now brought back $2,200,000 in cash. By doing this, we don't have surplus cash stranded in China and it reduces our exposure if things ever deteriorated between China and the West. We anticipate bringing back more cash in 2024. But we are being cautious about our operations in China as any further increase in tensions between China and other countries could impact our operations there. We continue to assess possible corporate development opportunities that could fit with either of our businesses. Speaker 100:23:52There are opportunities out there, but it's too early to know if they would be a good fit and a good deal for FTG. With our focus on operational excellence in all parts of FTG, our strong financial performance last year and in Q1 this year, our recent acquisitions and our key sales wins, we are confident we are on a strong long term growth trajectory. This concludes our presentation. I thank you for your attention. I would now like to open the phones for your questions. Speaker 100:24:19Karina? Operator00:24:57Your first question comes from Nick Corcoran from Acumen. Please go ahead. Speaker 300:25:04Good morning, guys. A couple of questions for me. The first is the backlog is about 99,000,000 dollars How much do you expect to get through in the Q2? Speaker 100:25:14So total backlog is $99,000,000 Backlog due in Q2 is $53,000,000 I think I said. We're not shipping $53,000,000 That I guarantee. But I do think a couple of factors for Q2. Q2 is typically one of our better quarters. There's less holidays, less vacation days. Speaker 100:25:37There's no Christmas shutdown. So we get kind of maximum number of production days, which is a benefit to us. So I would hope Q2 this year would be in line or possibly a little bit higher than Q4 last year. Speaker 300:25:57Great. And then just with the issues that Boeing is having, have you seen any signs in the supply chain that they might be scaling back any of their orders? Speaker 100:26:10No. We have seen no impact as of now. And a couple of things happened, but this industry, it's a big effort to change production rates, whether you're changing them up or changing them down. And so as of now, Boeing has made no effort, no attempt to change any production rates on their aircraft. They're holding them where they are. Speaker 100:26:34They might not be shipping planes out to customers, but the production rates are not impacted. And I think they believe they will get through the reviews and they really are through most of the reviews and get back to shipping product to customers. So as long as the production rates hold, there is no impact to us. Speaker 300:26:56And then one of the things you mentioned in your prepared remarks is you've been able to improve pricing. How much of the pricing do you think you pass through to date? Speaker 100:27:06That's a good question. And honest answer, Nick, for Q1, I don't have a number. We're looking at this every day on opportunities and every day as contracts renew. We set target margins for what we're trying to achieve. And so if a contract is renewing, we review margins on a part number by part number basis, and we make sure we are achieving our objective. Speaker 100:27:34And going along with that, we're really trying to be careful going forward, and we've been doing this for more than a year now. We when we're renewing contracts with customers, we're now either doing annual pricing, which means we can relook at it on a yearly basis, or we will embed a escalation clause in the pricing or in the contract so that there's a mechanism to automatically adjust prices on a go forward basis. So we're taking these steps to make sure that we can consistently pass on any incremental cost increases through to the customer and not see our margin squeeze. Speaker 300:28:18Great. Then one last question for me. In terms of CapEx for fiscal 'twenty four, any indication what you're expecting for the year? Speaker 200:28:31CapEx for the rest of the year will be, I'm going to say normal, Nick, with the exception that we do have another maintenance capital. We have some roof we have to address the roof in Circuit of Toronto, which is a relatively significant item. It's around the $1,000,000 level, which will occur kind of Q2, Q3 time period, but the rest excluding that CapEx for the rest of the year ought to be kind of normal. Operator00:29:33Your next question comes from Eric Chu. Please go ahead. Mr. Eric Chu, your line is open. Please go ahead. Speaker 400:29:52Hi, Brad. Congrats on a great quarter. Quick question for you regarding your Asian exposure and exposure to COMAC. Do you expect this to be a material lift in the coming year or coming 2 years? And if so, do you have a general sense on what that quantum would be? Speaker 100:30:14The shorter answer is yes. We've been engaged in the C919 program for a decade now. And I think when we started, we thought the development process was going to be a lot faster. But it is done in any case. And the but from the beginning, there were projections for this aircraft of production rates ramping to the 140 ish planes a year. Speaker 100:30:44That is still their plan. And for us, that's not going to happen this year, to be clear, but they are ramping. They're into real production. And it's going to ramp each year. I think to us, it's a material, maybe not a life changing amount, but I think it would be on the order of $5,000,000 in incremental revenue starting in the near future and ramping from there. Operator00:31:32Your next question comes from Alan Jacobs. Please go ahead. Speaker 500:31:38Hi, Brad. My question is on the impact of the strike. If it was $3,000,000 in sales, how come it could be have as much as 1,000,000 dollars impact on net income, which is like a 33% margin? I mean, is there something unusual that happened because even if that facility had higher than average margins, it just seems 33% like is a big number as a percent of the lost sales? Speaker 100:32:03Yes, but it's really just tied to STG's economics. We have fixed costs at all our sites that are about 30%, which stay, whether you ship nothing or ship a lot, the fixed costs are fixed, hence the name. So our contribution margin on incremental revenue, whether it's going up or going down, is more on the order of 33% or somewhere in that ballpark. So it's an estimate from us to be clear, because we don't have an exact number on what didn't ship and therefore what margin was not achieved. But the key is the contribution margin impact to the site and the FTG, not just a normalized margin across the business. Speaker 500:32:52But what about all the expenses, including taxes and other things that or the impact of taxes on that 1,000,000 dollars Speaker 100:33:01Sure. I mean, there is impacts from taxes. But again, to be fair, we're not trying to get a really precise number on this. We're trying to give a ballpark estimate. And so we're saying it was about a third of the revenue was the bottom line impact to us. Speaker 100:33:20If you want to assume it's a little bit less or a little bit more, that's fair. I hear you. But I think it's a pretty reasonable estimate. It's somewhere in that ballpark. Just Speaker 200:33:33to be clear, the $1,000,000 estimate is a pretax number. We also refer to $75,000,000 as the estimated after tax impact. Operator00:34:10Your next question comes from Eric Chu. Please go ahead. Mr. Chu, your line is open. Please go ahead. Speaker 400:34:26Hi, Brad. Are you planning on any acquisitions this coming year or the next couple of years, specifically in North America? Or is it mostly Chinese corporate development targets you're assessing? Speaker 100:34:42Our history and our I guess, our plan going forward is we're just going to try to grow the business, and we're trying to we would like to layer on acquisitions. Timing of them is always uncertain. We have to find targets. They have to be willing to talk. There has to be a deal that makes sense. Speaker 100:35:02And so will there be one to happen this year or next year? I hope so, but for sure no guarantees. In terms of what we would be looking at, I would say it could be a number of things. In some cases, we're looking to add technology. I think if you look at the IMI acquisition last year, we're trying to get some RF circuit board technology into the business. Speaker 100:35:26So that was a technology acquisition. At some point, and again, I don't know if it'd be this year, next year or beyond, at some point, I believe it's in FTG's interest to have a footprint in Europe. Good or bad, Airbus is outperforming Boeing these days. And if you want to grow your share with Airbus, it's easier to do it from a U. S. Speaker 100:35:51Or from a European footprint. Similarly, there's a lot of increased defense spending going on in Europe. They're closer to some of the ongoing conflicts. European defense spending, if you look at it as an entity as opposed to individual countries, that spending is significant, getting close to what the U. S. Speaker 100:36:11Spends. So it's kind of a second reason to be in Europe. And really along those same lines, another area that geographically could be of interest to us at some point would be India. We look at the defense spending across the world. U. Speaker 100:36:26S. Is for sure number 1. Europe is significant. Russia and China are not markets we're going to pursue. And next on the list is India. Speaker 100:36:36So the Indian market is one that at some point we could address as well. So there are a number of factors we're looking at in terms of what future acquisitions could do. And we just got to tie it back to what's available and what's a reasonable deal. So we are looking. We'd love to do one in the next couple of years. Speaker 400:37:00There Operator00:37:09There are no further questions at this time. I would like to turn the call over back to Mr. Brad Borne. Please continue. Speaker 100:37:16Thank you. A replay of the call will be available until Sunday, May 12, at the numbers noted in our press release. The replay will also be available on our website in a few days. I thank you all for your interest and participation. Thank you.Read morePowered by