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Earnings HistoryForecast Encompass Health EPS ResultsActual EPS$1.12Consensus EPS $0.93Beat/MissBeat by +$0.19One Year Ago EPS$0.88Encompass Health Revenue ResultsActual Revenue$1.32 billionExpected Revenue$1.27 billionBeat/MissBeat by +$43.15 millionYoY Revenue Growth+13.40%Encompass Health Announcement DetailsQuarterQ1 2024Date4/24/2024TimeAfter Market ClosesConference Call DateThursday, April 25, 2024Conference Call Time10:00AM ETConference Call ResourcesConference Call AudioConference Call TranscriptSlide DeckPress Release (8-K)Quarterly Report (10-Q)Earnings HistoryCompany ProfileSlide DeckFull Screen Slide DeckPowered by Encompass Health Q1 2024 Earnings Call TranscriptProvided by QuartrApril 25, 2024 ShareLink copied to clipboard.There are 13 speakers on the call. Operator00:00:00Good morning, everyone, and welcome to Encompass Health's First Quarter 2024 Earnings Conference Call. At this time, I would like to inform all participants that their lines will be in a listen only mode. After the speakers' remarks, there will be a question and answer period. Today's conference call is being recorded. If you have any objections, you may disconnect at this time. Operator00:00:27I will now turn the call over to Mark Miller, Encompass Health's Chief Investor Relations Officer. Speaker 100:00:33Thank you, operator, and good morning, everyone. Thank you for joining Encompass Health's Q1 2024 Earnings Call. Before we begin, if you do not already have a copy, the Q1 earnings release, supplemental information and related Form 8 ks filed with the SEC are available on our website at encompasshealth.com. On Page 2 of the supplemental information, you will find the Safe Harbor statements, which are also set forth in greater detail on the last page of the earnings release. During the call, we will make forward looking statements, which are subject to risks and uncertainties, many of which are beyond our control. Speaker 100:01:15Certain risks and uncertainties, like those relating to regulatory developments as well as volume, bad debt and labor cost trends that could cause actual results to differ materially from our projections, estimates and expectations are discussed in the company's SEC filings, including the earnings release and related Form 8 ks, the Form 10 ks for the year ended December 31, 2023, and the Form 10 Q for the quarter ended March 31, 20 24 when filed. We encourage you to read them. You are cautioned not to place undue reliance on the estimates, projections, guidance and other forward looking information presented, which are based on current estimates of future events and speak only as of today. We do not undertake a duty to update these forward looking statements. Our supplemental information and discussion on this call will include certain non GAAP financial measures. Speaker 100:02:15For such measures, reconciliation to the most directly comparable GAAP measure is available at the end of the supplemental information, at the end of the earnings release and as part of the Form 8 ks filed yesterday with the SEC, all of which are available on our website. I would like to remind everyone that we will adhere to the one question and one follow-up question rule to allow everyone to submit a question. If you have additional questions, please feel free to put yourself back in the queue. With that, I'll turn the call over to Mark Tarr, Encompass Health's President and Chief Executive Officer. Speaker 200:02:54Thank you, Mark, and good morning, everyone. The broad based momentum of our business continued in the Q1 evidenced by 13.4% revenue growth and adjusted EBITDA increase of 19.2%. Owing largely to our Q1 results, we are increasing our 2024 guidance. Doug will cover the details of the quarter and increased guidance in his comments. Demand for IRF services remained strong and we are continuing to invest in capacity additions to meet the needs of patients requiring inpatient rehabilitation services. Speaker 200:03:33During Q1, we added 51 beds to existing hospitals. Over the balance of the year, we plan to open 6 de novo hospitals with a total of 280 beds, as well as a 40 bed freestanding hospital to be licensed as a satellite location of an existing hospital. Consistent with our historical practice, the satellite will be accounted for as a bed addition. We anticipate adding another 93 beds to existing hospitals in 2024, inclusive of the aforementioned satellite. We continue to build and maintain an active pipeline of de novo projects, both wholly owned and joint ventures with acute care hospitals. Speaker 200:04:20Since the beginning of this year, we've announced 3 additional de novo projects, bringing our pipeline to 14 hospitals under development with opening dates beyond 2024. We remain keenly focused on further enhancing the quality of our patient care and resulting outcomes through the deployment of clinical technologies and protocols. We have previously highlighted the installation of in house dialysis capabilities at many of our hospitals. We now offer this service in 88 of our hospitals and we'll continue the rollout to additional locations in 2024. As another example of an ongoing clinical project, our quality of life improvement project incorporates an individualized approach to inpatient care in which our therapists focus on a specific patient's interest, lifestyle, home improvement and community mobility needs. Speaker 200:05:25The goal of this program is to improve the patient's inpatient experience and readiness for discharge to their community. On March 27th this year, CMS released the 2025 IRF proposed rule. This included a proposed net market basket update of 2.8%, which we estimate would result in approximately 3% increase for our IRFs beginning October 1, 2024 based on our current patient mix. The IRFs final rule is expected to be released in late July or early August. Review Choice Demonstration or RCD began in August 2023 in Alabama. Speaker 200:06:15Recall that under RCD Cycle 1, which lasted 6 months, every Medicare claim was reviewed for documentation and medical necessity. The affirmation rate target set by CMS under cycle 1 was 80%. All 7 of our Alabama hospitals ended cycle 1 above the target affirmation rate. For cycle 2 in Alabama, which runs from May 1st through October 31st, we had the choice of continuing with 100% pre claim review or a random spot check pre claim review of 5% of claims. Based on our cycle 1 claim experience, we elected to continue with 100% pre claim review for cycle 2. Speaker 200:07:05The target affirmation rate for cycle 2 is 85%. On March 1, CMS announced it is expanding IRF RCD to Pennsylvania for hospitals billing to the Medicare administrative contractor, Novitas. Our 9 hospitals in Pennsylvania will not be subject to RCD at this time as they build to a different Medicare administrative contractor. During Q1, many providers across the U. S. Speaker 200:07:37Healthcare U. Vast majority of our claims processing across our payer base. Our teams in our centralized business office and information technology quickly rallied to successfully implement workarounds using alternative third party vendors and enhancing our own claims processing capabilities. As a result of these efforts, we experienced minimal impact to our Q1 cash flow from the change outage. We resumed claims processing with change in early April and continue to maintain the alternative channels we recently developed. Speaker 200:08:28Across our 160 inpatient rehabilitation hospitals, we are daily providing high quality, cost effective care to medically complex patients. Our dedicated clinical teams work collaboratively with physicians to administer this care, producing leading scores and patient satisfaction and quality outcomes. This value proposition increasingly resonates with patients, caregivers, referral sources and payers. The demand for inpatient rehabilitation services remains considerably underserved and continues to grow as the U. S. Speaker 200:09:09Population ages. We intend to continue to expand our capacity and capabilities to meet this need. Now, I'll turn it over to Doug. Speaker 300:09:22Thank you, Mark, and good morning, everyone. As Mark stated, we are very pleased with our Q1 results. Revenue growth for the quarter of 13.4% was primarily driven by volume as total discharges grew 10%, inclusive of 6.7% same store growth. Q1 revenue growth did benefit from both leap year and the timing of the Easter holiday. Our Q1 revenue also included a $6,900,000 increase in provider tax receipts, primarily attributable to prior periods. Speaker 300:10:02Q1 adjusted EBITDA increased 19.2 percent to $273,000,000 driven by revenue growth, stable premium labor trends and prudent expense management. Other operating expenses as a percent of revenue decreased 80 basis points benefiting from the favorable impact of on-site dialysis implementation and efficiencies in our recruiting efforts. Q1 adjusted EBITDA included approximately $5,000,000 related to the aforementioned provider tax receipts. Q1 net preopening and ramp up costs were $1,800,000 as compared to $4,200,000 in Q1 last year. Given the timing of our new hospital openings and the balance between joint venture and wholly owned de novos, our net preopening and ramp up costs will be concentrated in the final three quarters of the year. Speaker 300:11:10We anticipate $15,000,000 to $18,000,000 of de novo net pre opening and ramp up costs for 2024 as compared to $6,600,000 in 2023. We continue to generate significant levels of free cash flow. Adjusted free cash flow for the quarter increased 5.6% to $167,600,000 due to higher adjusted EBITDA, partially offset by an increase in working capital, which was unrelated to the change healthcare outage and higher cash tax payments. Primarily based on the strength of our adjusted EBITDA growth, our net leverage again declined falling to 2.5 times from 2.7 times at year end 2023. We ended the 1st quarter with no amounts drawn on our $1,000,000,000 revolving credit facility and more than $130,000,000 of cash on hand. Speaker 300:12:20As Mark alluded to, based primarily on our Q1 results, we are raising our 2024 guidance as follows: net operating revenue of $5,250,000,000 to $5,325,000,000 adjusted EBITDA of $1,030,000,000 to $1,065,000,000 and adjusted earnings per share of $3.86 to $4.11 The key considerations underlying our guidance can be found on Page 12 of the supplemental slides. And with that, operator, we'll now open the lines for questions. Operator00:13:09Thank And we'll take our first question today from Kevin Fischbeck with Bank of America. Speaker 400:13:29Good morning. Speaker 500:13:30Good morning. Thanks. I guess, I would love a little bit more color on the volume in the quarter. Do you have any details about the strength? You mentioned that leap year helped. Speaker 500:13:44There's been a lot of kind of focus on how maybe March slowed down. Any comments about volume intra the quarter and how things are maybe trending so far in April? Thanks. Speaker 300:13:57The volume remained pretty constant throughout the quarter. And so in the month of February, you had the extra day because of leap year, which certainly helped volume in that month. And then March discharge volume certainly benefited from the fact that the Easter holiday fell on the last day of the quarter, which also happened to be a Sunday. But really, we saw good momentum on volume through the entire quarter. Speaker 200:14:25Okay. Not only was it consistent throughout the quarter, but if you look at it geographically across our 8 regions, it was very consistent across all of our regions and we're very pleased with the progress that we've continued to make on overall volume growth. Speaker 500:14:44Great. And then I guess maybe And Operator00:14:45then I Speaker 500:14:45guess maybe And for Speaker 300:14:45the payers as well. When we look at the total discharge volume growth, we had a 12% increase in Medicare fee for service and north of an 11% increase in Medicare Advantage. Speaker 500:15:00Okay, great. And then I guess maybe just to talk about that then for a second. A lot of focus on Medicare Advantage rates and can you talk a little bit about how the contracting there for you is going? And then are you expecting any pressure or flow through from the negative rate adjustment they're getting for next year? Is there any concern about how that might flow down through to your contracting or their being on Speaker 300:15:29an episodic basis versus on a per diem being on an episodic basis versus on a per diem basis. And the payment differential for the quarter was just over 3%. So good progress there. Most of those contracts that are on an episodic basis, the annual increases are tied directly to the Medicare fee for service rule. So at this point in time, we're really not expecting any adverse consequences from what's going on with regard to the Medicare Advantage rule. Speaker 500:16:06All right, great. Thanks. Operator00:16:11Our next question will come from A. J. Rice with UBS. Speaker 300:16:15Good morning. Good morning, A. J. Speaker 600:16:17Hi. How are you guys? I know SWB per FTE was about 4% to 5% in the quarter. I think that's your target for this year. I wonder when you look at it, underlying permanent wage trends, premium labor sign on bonuses, shift bonuses. Speaker 600:16:39Is there any place where you're running higher than the pre pandemic where there's still opportunities in your mind potentially to improve on that year to year rate? Speaker 300:16:52Yes. So total SWB for the quarter was actually up 3.8%, so slightly below the low end of the range that we have out there for the year. And the biggest reason for that is that we would expect a higher growth rate on benefits for the last three quarters of the year just based on positive accrual adjustments we had in the last three quarters of 2023. The both categories of premium labor continue to be elevated above where they were pre pandemic, although they've settled down quite a bit. If we look at what transpired in the quarter in terms of sign on and ship bonuses, the total there was $14,300,000 That's about a $2,000,000 improvement over where we were in Q1 of last year. Speaker 300:17:41And it's up just modestly about $1,200,000 from the run rate we experienced in Q4. That's not unanticipated, just given our normal seasonal trends and also the volume increase that we had in the quarter. Looking at kind of the same pattern for contract labor dollars, we were at $19,300,000 in Q1. Again, that compares favorably to $20,700,000 in Q1 of last year, up sequentially from Q4, which was $17,700,000 We again would attribute that predominantly to seasonal patterns and to the volume trend. The contract labor FTEs as a percentage of total FTEs for the quarter was at 1.6%. Speaker 300:18:30That's in the range that we've been we were running at the second half of last year, right around 1.5%. Again, pre pandemic, we would have been just below 1%. So we do think that there's some continued opportunity, but it really does feel like at least for the foreseeable future, A. J, we've kind of settled into this rate, this range. I will note we continue to make good progress through our recruiting efforts on the quarter. Speaker 300:18:57Net new RN hires for the quarter were 148, and that's a pretty significant increase over the less than 50 that we had in Q1 of last year. Speaker 200:19:08And final comment on labor, A. J, not only on the recruitment side, but retention continues to be a big focus and our turnover, particularly around the nursing continues to trend downward as well as therapy. So we're seeing a lot of positive aspects within the broader umbrella of labor itself. Speaker 300:19:30Yes. And just to put a finer point on Mark's comments there, annualized Q1 nursing turnover was at 20.2% and therapist turnover 6.6%. So those are very positive numbers. Speaker 200:19:46And both of those would be lower than pre pandemic. Speaker 600:19:50Yes. It's a very low number on the therapists. Interesting. Thanks a lot. Speaker 300:19:55Thank you. Operator00:19:58Our next question comes from Andrew Mok with Barclays. Speaker 400:20:02Good morning. Good morning. Speaker 500:20:04Hi, good morning. Was hoping you could give us a little bit more detail on de novo openings this year, just overall cadence and timing. There were no openings in Q1. So how should we think about the 6 de novos for the balance of the year? Thanks. Speaker 500:20:17Yes. Speaker 300:20:17Certainly, as we alluded to at the beginning of the year, you're going to have a different pattern this year than you did last year. Last year, we benefited in terms of the annual net pre opening and ramp up costs by the fact that we had earlier openings. We had those that were predominantly JVs, 5 of the ones that we opened last year were JVs and you had a couple of hospital and hospitals which tend to ramp up faster. We're skewed now with our openings into the final three quarters of this year, which is leading to kind of the year over year change and particularly over the balance of the 3 quarters. If you look over the final three quarters of last year, net pre opening and ramp up costs were a negative $2,400,000 If you subtract out from the $15,000,000 to $18,000,000 range we have for 2024, the $1,800,000 we experienced in Q1, you're left with an anticipated $13,200,000 to $16,200,000 impact in Q2 through Q4. Speaker 300:21:26The midpoint of that range is $14,700,000 so that would represent a little over a $12,000,000 delta on a year over year basis. Speaker 500:21:37Got it. That's helpful. But if we just take a step back and think about the 6 de novo, should we think 2 per quarter for the remaining 3 quarters? Or is there even more of a back end skew to that? Speaker 300:21:49I think we've got 2 opening in Q2 and then the balance are in Q3. Speaker 500:21:57Got it. Speaker 300:21:57One will likely extend into Q4. Speaker 500:22:00Okay. That's helpful. And then occupancy in the quarter ticked up to about 76.7%, which I think was a notable sequential and year over year increase. I know you have elevated bed additions coming online this year, but can you give us a sense for what full capacity looks like or maybe where your top decile hospitals sit on an occupancy basis? Thanks. Speaker 300:22:22Yes. So occupancy during the quarter was definitely favorably impacted by normal seasonality as well as the volume increase we saw and the fact that there were no counterweights in terms of de novos opening in the quarter. Again, as we move forward, we would hope to see the overall occupancy rate continue to move up modestly over time. And really the primary reason there in addition to the fact that demand environment remains very positive is that we are increasingly seeing a higher percentage of our overall beds in private rooms, which eliminates the capacity constraints can be caused by gender compatibility and other issues requiring patient isolation. And again, the increase in private beds is coming from really 2 initiatives. Speaker 300:23:15The first being that virtually all of our capacity additions, be they bed additions to existing hospitals or de novos are comprised of all private rooms. Then the second is when we are doing major remodels and renovations, where we are able, we are taking the opportunity to convert semi private rooms to private rooms. In terms of targeting a specific theoretical occupancy peak, it's hard to do that because we still have such a mixed bag within our overall physical plant. But generally speaking, in a facility that is all semi private, you start to hit capacity constraints north of 80%. When you're in a facility that is all private room, you can run into the mid to high 90s. Operator00:24:10Our next question will come from Ann Hynes with Mizuho Securities. Speaker 300:24:14Good morning. Good morning. Speaker 700:24:15Good morning. So I just want to talk about guidance. You beat consensus estimates on the adjusted EBITDA side by close to 10%. So even by encompasses conservative history, just the 1% guidance rate seems conservative to me. So maybe can you tell us what the quarter actually was versus your internal expectations? Speaker 700:24:38And is there anything we should consider as we go out throughout the rest of 2024, why you wouldn't be able to see this type of strong growth going forward? Speaker 300:24:48Yes. Ann, I think you really hit on the key point, which is, as a reminder, we issue annual guidance. We don't provide quarterly guidance. And I know that creates a challenge for you and your peers because you need to provide quarterly estimates that are out there. When we were thinking about our own expectations for Q1 performance, we were specifically looking at the momentum that we had coming in from Q4, the normal seasonality, but then we acknowledge the fact that you had an extra day in the quarter due to leap year and that there would be some timing benefit that would be attributable to the Easter holiday falling on a Sunday, which is the last day of the quarter. Speaker 300:25:32That's kind of a rare phenomenon. In the quarter, we also got the unanticipated benefit from the provider tax income. So yes, the quarter was still ahead of our expectations, which is the primary reason that we are revising our guidance upward. But there should not be an assumption made that our expectation internally was consistent with the consensus estimate. As we look at the back end of the year, I think the primary considerations are one that I've already reviewed, which is the year over year change in the impact from de novo pre opening and ramp up costs. Speaker 300:26:11And then really it's a pretty straightforward story where you fall in the range that we provided or whether we're able to ultimately revise that range upward through the course of the year is going to be predominantly a function of 2 things. 1 is, does volume continue? We're up against challenging comps, but feel very good about the underlying demand out there. And then what is ultimately the dynamic that exists over the final three quarters of the year between the pricing, which is relatively locked in and the rate of labor inflation that we experience. Speaker 700:26:48Great. And I guess my follow-up question really has to do with that rate. I mean, I know you're getting a 3% increase from CMS, but it kind of seems lopsided given the labor environment over the past couple of years. Is there a delay in the way the calculation works that maybe over the next couple of years you should see an acceleration of rates given what's happening in the just in the labor environment? Speaker 300:27:14So when you look at the rule making for all of the post acute sectors, the only sector that has a forecast error adjustment, which means it's looking backwards to say, did we miss a rate of underlying inflation in the provider's cost structure that needs to be factored in the go forward rate is SNIFs. And that dates back to some legislation from the early 2000s. They must have had a good lobbying effort. I can't really tell you anything more about that. For IRFs, there's no catch up. Speaker 300:27:50And so every year, the market basket update is based on forward looking. It's the anticipated rate of inflation in the next year, not what you experienced in the previous year. So you would hope at some point those become relatively consistent, but there isn't a catch up mechanism built into the IRF rulemaking cycle. Speaker 200:28:10And Ann, one of the other areas on that too, you never really know when there's going to be some other adjustment around productivity or something that's unforeseen that CMS would apply that would pull the net rate increase downward. So that's what makes a bit of a challenge. Speaker 700:28:28All right. Thanks. Operator00:28:32Our next question will come from Scott Fidel with Stephens. Speaker 300:28:36Good morning. Good morning, Scott. Speaker 800:28:37Hi, thanks. Good morning. First question, just curious on your thinking right now around potential capital return, particularly as it relates to buyback when thinking about the strength in the performance of the business, leverage now being at the low end of the target, the cash on hand, etcetera. Just curious on your sort of thinking about potentially ramping up buyback activity. Speaker 300:29:05Yes, it's certainly on the table and it's going to be a topic of continuing Board discussion. For all of the reasons that you cited, even with the cyber attack unchanged healthcare, our cash flow remained very strong in the quarter because we were able to implement those workarounds and because of the strength of the business and the flow through from the adjusted EBITDA. All of the points that you noted are very important ones, which the net leverage is all the way down to 2.5 times, there's $130,000,000 of cash on balance sheet. We're generating enough internal cash flow to fund all of our discretionary CapEx plus the dividend. So it certainly opens up other options for capital deployment and that's very much on the agenda for our Board now. Speaker 800:29:54Okay. Thank you. And then a follow-up question, just would be interested in your thinking on the final SNF staffing rule. I know it's somewhat second degree removed, but just really in sort of 2 areas in particular. One, as you've talked about the opportunity over the long term for capturing more volumes from SNPs in terms of SNPs conversion, whether that final staffing rule would have any influence over that? Speaker 800:30:23And then just also whether you any thoughts on this type of sort of staffing mandate at the federal level, if you've heard anything about that moving into other post acute sectors? Obviously, IRFs would be top of mind for you in terms of any slippery slope type dynamic relating to the final SNF staffing rule? Thanks. Speaker 200:30:43Yes. So this is Mark. And certainly, I Speaker 600:30:46don't know all the details of Speaker 200:30:47the SNF rule, but just in general, we feel like we have done a really nice job with our quality outcomes and making that value proposition that helps separate us from other providers in the marketplace, whether it's other IRFs or skilled nursing facilities. Clearly, the SNFs have been challenged the past several years through COVID and otherwise. So they have a lot of ground to make up, so to speak. But we're very focused on what we're doing right now around our programming and our quality. And I don't see the sniff rule having any impact on the market share that we've been able to take. Speaker 300:31:28And it really shouldn't be applicable to IRFs in the future because our staffing is really already dictated by the mandated requirements of care. The complement of therapists that we have in our facilities is driven by the therapy rules. Again, that's the 3 hours of therapy per day, 5 days a week. It's got to be multi disciplined therapy. And the preponderance has to be administered in individual versus a group or a concurrent setting. Speaker 300:32:02And then we also have very stringent nursing requirements that are mandated. So this was something that was lacking in the SNF industry, which is why I think you're seeing this come down. It is not something that is applicable because there needs to be adjustment in the IRF segment. And keep Speaker 200:32:19in mind, we're already taking a pretty acute level rehab patients that's medically complex. And as part of that, we adjust our nursing staffing to make sure that we can do a great job in taking care of those patients and not have those patients go back to the acute care hospital. So there are a lot of either rules of thumb or formal rules that are currently in place around what it takes to staff or hospitals to meet the type of patients we're taking in. Speaker 500:32:52Okay. Thank you. Operator00:32:55Our next question will come from John Ransom with Raymond James. Speaker 300:33:00Good morning, John. Good morning. Speaker 900:33:01Hey, good morning. I'm just kind of curious the role of there's a lot of talk a few years ago about the conveners and the navigators. I'm just wondering, when you're in the fight for these patient referrals, if you really notice any sort of change or things kind of settled down and the 3 legs of post acute kind of have their share. It looks fairly stable when you look at the numbers across the 3 modalities. But how do you think about when you talk to these discharge planners, these navigators, how are they thinking about things the same or differently than maybe 5 years ago? Speaker 200:33:36John, I think it has settled down a bit. When we've seen these navigators come into various marketplaces, there might be a short term impact on referrals or their approval for a patient to be discharged to an IRF, but that is usually somewhat short lived. They see the issues quality and otherwise that come in place in the market when they try to dictate where the patient goes according to just the cost of care. And so that pops up in the marketplace then seems to go away within 30 to 45 days. So it I think it settled down overall compared to where it was 3, 4 years ago. Speaker 100:34:24Thanks very much. Operator00:34:28Our next question will come from Pito Chickering with Deutsche Bank. Speaker 400:34:32Hey, guys. Good morning, guys. How are you guys doing? Speaker 300:34:36Good. Speaker 400:34:36Awesome. Nice quarter. So digging into the OpEx leverage you guys got this quarter, you talked about sort of dialysis and recruiting as large drivers there. What have been the returns on doing dialysis yourself? And with dialysis at 88 hospitals, is it safe to model additional OpEx leverage going forward from that lever? Speaker 300:34:56Yes. So the straight math on the dialysis conversion is when we use an outside contractor on average, it costs us about $600 When we do it internally, it costs us about $300 The reimbursement is the same because that's basically coded into the requirements of the patient when they're admitted to our facility. So that incremental $300 per treatment is a flow through. And then you get the other benefits that are very difficult to quantify such as the fact that a patient's therapy isn't being disrupted and you're not having to incur transportation costs to go outside the facility if that's an alternative. In terms of continuing leverage from that in OE, we would expect to see that. Speaker 300:35:44Now bear in mind, some of that is straight reduction in cost. Some of it is also a geography issue. When we contract with a third party that $600 100 percent of it runs through OOE as a contract services expense. When we do it internally, that cost gets spread out into other line items, the largest of which is SWB. And then we would expect that based on some of the efficiencies we're seeing both in terms of advertising costs that are out there and some of the different modalities and approaches that we have developed within our recruiting efforts that even as we continue robust recruiting efforts to make sure that we keep pace with our clinical requirements with new hires, that we'll continue to see some efficiencies in recruiting as well. Speaker 300:36:36Okay. Speaker 400:36:36And then so quick question on that one. I guess how many dialysis patients do you guys have? And then sort of second part here is on provider tax revenues. That's really been a big driver for you guys historically. Obviously, we saw $6,900,000 in the 4th or in the Q1, I guess. Speaker 400:36:51How should we think about that going forward? Thanks. Speaker 200:36:54Yes. So Pito, somewhere between around 3% to 5% of our total patients are on dialysis care either internally or where we have a vendor come into our hospital. So we do think that's going to be a continued focus and look a larger percentage of the population has issues that will put them on some sort of dialysis care. So we think it's a growing need for our hospitals. Provider taxes, Peter, Speaker 300:37:25are notoriously hard to predict in terms of timing and magnitude. And in most quarters where we get that kind of provider tax revenue, we've got the offsetting, largely offsetting expense. So from an EBITDA perspective, it doesn't cause much fluctuation. We haven't baked any net benefit from provider taxes into our guidance for the balance of the year. Speaker 400:37:52Great. Thanks so much. Operator00:37:56Our next question will come from Ben Hendricks with RBC Capital Markets. Speaker 300:38:00Good morning. Good Speaker 1000:38:02morning. Thank you very much. I think most of my questions have been answered, but I did want to follow-up on your comments about the Review Choice demonstration and specifically your decision to continue with 100% pre claim review in Alabama. I know you've had periods of elevated denial activity with fiscal intermediaries in the past. It seems like the sampling election would help you sidestep some of that risk. Speaker 1000:38:26I just wanted to get your thought process there and kind of how relations with intermediaries are going? Thank you. Speaker 200:38:32Yes. So the relations have gone well thus far around that particularly. We majority of our hospitals under Palmetto. We decided actually the team decided to continue off the 100% review. We felt like we put in a good discipline within our hospitals around documentation and capturing everything we needed to in the chart. Speaker 200:38:57And to stray from that just seemed like it wasn't the right thing to do given the process that we'd already had put in place. So the hospitals actually helped make that decision to stay at 100%. Speaker 300:39:12The benefit of the 100% pre claim review, there's really kind of 2 fold. One is, it allows for a much more iterative process with the MAX, so that we can find out if they're viewing anything regarding a patient's appropriateness in our hospitals as either view if they're either viewing it erroneously or if there's if they're perceiving a required change in our documentation, we can make that adjustment. The other thing is you get a larger sample size. So one of the risks that's associated with that 5% pre claim review is they look at one particular patient and they disqualify that patient based on a circumstance and then apply that through extrapolation to a broader base. Whereas if we've got the 100% pre claim review that are out there, we can line that patient that they may be contesting up with many others that have been approved elsewhere in their organization and say you tell us what's different. Speaker 300:40:18So we just think because the infrastructure is already placed and procedures are already in place that this is the right way for us to proceed through cycle 2. Speaker 1000:40:30And just is the added cost of the 100% material? Speaker 300:40:35No, it's already in place. Speaker 1000:40:37Got you. Thank you very much. Operator00:40:41We We'll now hear from Brian Tanquilut with Jefferies. Speaker 400:40:47Hello, Brian. Hey, good morning. Congrats on the quarter. Speaker 300:40:52I actually just Speaker 1100:40:52have a little question. Maybe Doug, can you share with us the what it looked like in terms of the growth rates in the different diagnoses of patients coming in? I guess where Speaker 400:41:02I'm coming from is as Speaker 1100:41:03we think of a broader utilization strength, just curious if it's specific to stroke or are we seeing more from like elective procedures such as drug replacements? Speaker 300:41:14The story is really pretty consistent with what we saw the back half of last year. So good growth in neurological and stroke in the quarter. Neurological was up just north of 10%, stroke was up almost 12%. We did see a pretty significant increase in brain injury that was up 11.1%. Other ortho was up almost 16%. Speaker 300:41:42But again, remember that's off of a smaller base. So we are seeing a broadening in terms of some more rapid growth in some of the smaller categories that have gotten deferred for a period of time during COVID, but the strength in our higher acuity categories continues to be there as well. Speaker 200:42:01Brian, those electric procedures, we just don't see a lot of them. As a matter of fact, I mean, for just joint replacement, it's a little bit less than 3% of our total patient mix. So it's not really had a large impact on us. Speaker 300:42:16Yes. One of our smallest categories, but knee and hip replacement was up 20% during the quarter. All right. Got it. Thank you. Operator00:42:27Our final question will come from Jared Haas with William Blair. Speaker 300:42:31Good morning. Speaker 1200:42:33Yes. Hi, guys. Good morning. Thanks for sneaking me in here. Maybe I'll just ask one around the Change Healthcare disruption. Speaker 1200:42:40And specifically, I know you mentioned kind of some of the work you did to implement workarounds and maybe enhance or build out some of your internal capabilities. I'd just be curious, any particular areas of interest that you called out where you made investments or sort of built out those workflows? And then I guess the other question is just should we think about any leverage benefit from that just in terms of you internalizing a little bit more of the sort of RCM capabilities? Speaker 300:43:08Yes. So the if you think about how we and how most providers utilize change, it was for 2 things. 1 is what's called claims scrubbing, which is just to make sure that as you are sending a claim to any particular payer, whether it's CMS through 1 of the intermediaries or to 1 of the Medicare Advantage or managed care players that you're getting the documentation in the form that is most readily acceptable and desired by that particular payer. The second thing is that for us and for others, change really served as the electronic intermediary in terms of submitting the claims and getting those processed. The primary thing that we did internally was establish our electronic interface with CMS and now extending that to other payers as well. Speaker 300:44:03Whether or not there's going to be any kind of leverage that ultimately comes from that, I think is going to depend on a go forward basis between the balance that we have in restoring claims processing through change, these other third party vendors that we identified and put in place during the process and how much we choose to do internally. It's still somewhat of a dynamic situation. We will refrain from going back to a situation where we have an overdependence on any one single vendor. Jared, Speaker 200:44:37I do want to call out our teams in our centralized billing office down in Tampa as well as our IT staff because they worked extremely hard to minimize the impact on this and figure out workarounds to come in at night, on the weekends to make sure that we were being taken care of from a company standpoint. So I did want to point that out. Speaker 1200:45:02Yes, that's great to hear. Thanks guys for all the color and I'll go ahead and leave it there. Speaker 200:45:07All right. Thank you. Operator00:45:10That will conclude the question and answer session. I will now turn the call over to Mark Miller for any additional or closing remarks. Speaker 100:45:18Thank you, operator. If anyone has additional questions, please call me at 205-970 5860. Thank you again for joining today's call. Operator00:45:31This does conclude today's conference. Thank you for your participation. 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There are 13 speakers on the call. Operator00:00:00Good morning, everyone, and welcome to Encompass Health's First Quarter 2024 Earnings Conference Call. At this time, I would like to inform all participants that their lines will be in a listen only mode. After the speakers' remarks, there will be a question and answer period. Today's conference call is being recorded. If you have any objections, you may disconnect at this time. Operator00:00:27I will now turn the call over to Mark Miller, Encompass Health's Chief Investor Relations Officer. Speaker 100:00:33Thank you, operator, and good morning, everyone. Thank you for joining Encompass Health's Q1 2024 Earnings Call. Before we begin, if you do not already have a copy, the Q1 earnings release, supplemental information and related Form 8 ks filed with the SEC are available on our website at encompasshealth.com. On Page 2 of the supplemental information, you will find the Safe Harbor statements, which are also set forth in greater detail on the last page of the earnings release. During the call, we will make forward looking statements, which are subject to risks and uncertainties, many of which are beyond our control. Speaker 100:01:15Certain risks and uncertainties, like those relating to regulatory developments as well as volume, bad debt and labor cost trends that could cause actual results to differ materially from our projections, estimates and expectations are discussed in the company's SEC filings, including the earnings release and related Form 8 ks, the Form 10 ks for the year ended December 31, 2023, and the Form 10 Q for the quarter ended March 31, 20 24 when filed. We encourage you to read them. You are cautioned not to place undue reliance on the estimates, projections, guidance and other forward looking information presented, which are based on current estimates of future events and speak only as of today. We do not undertake a duty to update these forward looking statements. Our supplemental information and discussion on this call will include certain non GAAP financial measures. Speaker 100:02:15For such measures, reconciliation to the most directly comparable GAAP measure is available at the end of the supplemental information, at the end of the earnings release and as part of the Form 8 ks filed yesterday with the SEC, all of which are available on our website. I would like to remind everyone that we will adhere to the one question and one follow-up question rule to allow everyone to submit a question. If you have additional questions, please feel free to put yourself back in the queue. With that, I'll turn the call over to Mark Tarr, Encompass Health's President and Chief Executive Officer. Speaker 200:02:54Thank you, Mark, and good morning, everyone. The broad based momentum of our business continued in the Q1 evidenced by 13.4% revenue growth and adjusted EBITDA increase of 19.2%. Owing largely to our Q1 results, we are increasing our 2024 guidance. Doug will cover the details of the quarter and increased guidance in his comments. Demand for IRF services remained strong and we are continuing to invest in capacity additions to meet the needs of patients requiring inpatient rehabilitation services. Speaker 200:03:33During Q1, we added 51 beds to existing hospitals. Over the balance of the year, we plan to open 6 de novo hospitals with a total of 280 beds, as well as a 40 bed freestanding hospital to be licensed as a satellite location of an existing hospital. Consistent with our historical practice, the satellite will be accounted for as a bed addition. We anticipate adding another 93 beds to existing hospitals in 2024, inclusive of the aforementioned satellite. We continue to build and maintain an active pipeline of de novo projects, both wholly owned and joint ventures with acute care hospitals. Speaker 200:04:20Since the beginning of this year, we've announced 3 additional de novo projects, bringing our pipeline to 14 hospitals under development with opening dates beyond 2024. We remain keenly focused on further enhancing the quality of our patient care and resulting outcomes through the deployment of clinical technologies and protocols. We have previously highlighted the installation of in house dialysis capabilities at many of our hospitals. We now offer this service in 88 of our hospitals and we'll continue the rollout to additional locations in 2024. As another example of an ongoing clinical project, our quality of life improvement project incorporates an individualized approach to inpatient care in which our therapists focus on a specific patient's interest, lifestyle, home improvement and community mobility needs. Speaker 200:05:25The goal of this program is to improve the patient's inpatient experience and readiness for discharge to their community. On March 27th this year, CMS released the 2025 IRF proposed rule. This included a proposed net market basket update of 2.8%, which we estimate would result in approximately 3% increase for our IRFs beginning October 1, 2024 based on our current patient mix. The IRFs final rule is expected to be released in late July or early August. Review Choice Demonstration or RCD began in August 2023 in Alabama. Speaker 200:06:15Recall that under RCD Cycle 1, which lasted 6 months, every Medicare claim was reviewed for documentation and medical necessity. The affirmation rate target set by CMS under cycle 1 was 80%. All 7 of our Alabama hospitals ended cycle 1 above the target affirmation rate. For cycle 2 in Alabama, which runs from May 1st through October 31st, we had the choice of continuing with 100% pre claim review or a random spot check pre claim review of 5% of claims. Based on our cycle 1 claim experience, we elected to continue with 100% pre claim review for cycle 2. Speaker 200:07:05The target affirmation rate for cycle 2 is 85%. On March 1, CMS announced it is expanding IRF RCD to Pennsylvania for hospitals billing to the Medicare administrative contractor, Novitas. Our 9 hospitals in Pennsylvania will not be subject to RCD at this time as they build to a different Medicare administrative contractor. During Q1, many providers across the U. S. Speaker 200:07:37Healthcare U. Vast majority of our claims processing across our payer base. Our teams in our centralized business office and information technology quickly rallied to successfully implement workarounds using alternative third party vendors and enhancing our own claims processing capabilities. As a result of these efforts, we experienced minimal impact to our Q1 cash flow from the change outage. We resumed claims processing with change in early April and continue to maintain the alternative channels we recently developed. Speaker 200:08:28Across our 160 inpatient rehabilitation hospitals, we are daily providing high quality, cost effective care to medically complex patients. Our dedicated clinical teams work collaboratively with physicians to administer this care, producing leading scores and patient satisfaction and quality outcomes. This value proposition increasingly resonates with patients, caregivers, referral sources and payers. The demand for inpatient rehabilitation services remains considerably underserved and continues to grow as the U. S. Speaker 200:09:09Population ages. We intend to continue to expand our capacity and capabilities to meet this need. Now, I'll turn it over to Doug. Speaker 300:09:22Thank you, Mark, and good morning, everyone. As Mark stated, we are very pleased with our Q1 results. Revenue growth for the quarter of 13.4% was primarily driven by volume as total discharges grew 10%, inclusive of 6.7% same store growth. Q1 revenue growth did benefit from both leap year and the timing of the Easter holiday. Our Q1 revenue also included a $6,900,000 increase in provider tax receipts, primarily attributable to prior periods. Speaker 300:10:02Q1 adjusted EBITDA increased 19.2 percent to $273,000,000 driven by revenue growth, stable premium labor trends and prudent expense management. Other operating expenses as a percent of revenue decreased 80 basis points benefiting from the favorable impact of on-site dialysis implementation and efficiencies in our recruiting efforts. Q1 adjusted EBITDA included approximately $5,000,000 related to the aforementioned provider tax receipts. Q1 net preopening and ramp up costs were $1,800,000 as compared to $4,200,000 in Q1 last year. Given the timing of our new hospital openings and the balance between joint venture and wholly owned de novos, our net preopening and ramp up costs will be concentrated in the final three quarters of the year. Speaker 300:11:10We anticipate $15,000,000 to $18,000,000 of de novo net pre opening and ramp up costs for 2024 as compared to $6,600,000 in 2023. We continue to generate significant levels of free cash flow. Adjusted free cash flow for the quarter increased 5.6% to $167,600,000 due to higher adjusted EBITDA, partially offset by an increase in working capital, which was unrelated to the change healthcare outage and higher cash tax payments. Primarily based on the strength of our adjusted EBITDA growth, our net leverage again declined falling to 2.5 times from 2.7 times at year end 2023. We ended the 1st quarter with no amounts drawn on our $1,000,000,000 revolving credit facility and more than $130,000,000 of cash on hand. Speaker 300:12:20As Mark alluded to, based primarily on our Q1 results, we are raising our 2024 guidance as follows: net operating revenue of $5,250,000,000 to $5,325,000,000 adjusted EBITDA of $1,030,000,000 to $1,065,000,000 and adjusted earnings per share of $3.86 to $4.11 The key considerations underlying our guidance can be found on Page 12 of the supplemental slides. And with that, operator, we'll now open the lines for questions. Operator00:13:09Thank And we'll take our first question today from Kevin Fischbeck with Bank of America. Speaker 400:13:29Good morning. Speaker 500:13:30Good morning. Thanks. I guess, I would love a little bit more color on the volume in the quarter. Do you have any details about the strength? You mentioned that leap year helped. Speaker 500:13:44There's been a lot of kind of focus on how maybe March slowed down. Any comments about volume intra the quarter and how things are maybe trending so far in April? Thanks. Speaker 300:13:57The volume remained pretty constant throughout the quarter. And so in the month of February, you had the extra day because of leap year, which certainly helped volume in that month. And then March discharge volume certainly benefited from the fact that the Easter holiday fell on the last day of the quarter, which also happened to be a Sunday. But really, we saw good momentum on volume through the entire quarter. Speaker 200:14:25Okay. Not only was it consistent throughout the quarter, but if you look at it geographically across our 8 regions, it was very consistent across all of our regions and we're very pleased with the progress that we've continued to make on overall volume growth. Speaker 500:14:44Great. And then I guess maybe And Operator00:14:45then I Speaker 500:14:45guess maybe And for Speaker 300:14:45the payers as well. When we look at the total discharge volume growth, we had a 12% increase in Medicare fee for service and north of an 11% increase in Medicare Advantage. Speaker 500:15:00Okay, great. And then I guess maybe just to talk about that then for a second. A lot of focus on Medicare Advantage rates and can you talk a little bit about how the contracting there for you is going? And then are you expecting any pressure or flow through from the negative rate adjustment they're getting for next year? Is there any concern about how that might flow down through to your contracting or their being on Speaker 300:15:29an episodic basis versus on a per diem being on an episodic basis versus on a per diem basis. And the payment differential for the quarter was just over 3%. So good progress there. Most of those contracts that are on an episodic basis, the annual increases are tied directly to the Medicare fee for service rule. So at this point in time, we're really not expecting any adverse consequences from what's going on with regard to the Medicare Advantage rule. Speaker 500:16:06All right, great. Thanks. Operator00:16:11Our next question will come from A. J. Rice with UBS. Speaker 300:16:15Good morning. Good morning, A. J. Speaker 600:16:17Hi. How are you guys? I know SWB per FTE was about 4% to 5% in the quarter. I think that's your target for this year. I wonder when you look at it, underlying permanent wage trends, premium labor sign on bonuses, shift bonuses. Speaker 600:16:39Is there any place where you're running higher than the pre pandemic where there's still opportunities in your mind potentially to improve on that year to year rate? Speaker 300:16:52Yes. So total SWB for the quarter was actually up 3.8%, so slightly below the low end of the range that we have out there for the year. And the biggest reason for that is that we would expect a higher growth rate on benefits for the last three quarters of the year just based on positive accrual adjustments we had in the last three quarters of 2023. The both categories of premium labor continue to be elevated above where they were pre pandemic, although they've settled down quite a bit. If we look at what transpired in the quarter in terms of sign on and ship bonuses, the total there was $14,300,000 That's about a $2,000,000 improvement over where we were in Q1 of last year. Speaker 300:17:41And it's up just modestly about $1,200,000 from the run rate we experienced in Q4. That's not unanticipated, just given our normal seasonal trends and also the volume increase that we had in the quarter. Looking at kind of the same pattern for contract labor dollars, we were at $19,300,000 in Q1. Again, that compares favorably to $20,700,000 in Q1 of last year, up sequentially from Q4, which was $17,700,000 We again would attribute that predominantly to seasonal patterns and to the volume trend. The contract labor FTEs as a percentage of total FTEs for the quarter was at 1.6%. Speaker 300:18:30That's in the range that we've been we were running at the second half of last year, right around 1.5%. Again, pre pandemic, we would have been just below 1%. So we do think that there's some continued opportunity, but it really does feel like at least for the foreseeable future, A. J, we've kind of settled into this rate, this range. I will note we continue to make good progress through our recruiting efforts on the quarter. Speaker 300:18:57Net new RN hires for the quarter were 148, and that's a pretty significant increase over the less than 50 that we had in Q1 of last year. Speaker 200:19:08And final comment on labor, A. J, not only on the recruitment side, but retention continues to be a big focus and our turnover, particularly around the nursing continues to trend downward as well as therapy. So we're seeing a lot of positive aspects within the broader umbrella of labor itself. Speaker 300:19:30Yes. And just to put a finer point on Mark's comments there, annualized Q1 nursing turnover was at 20.2% and therapist turnover 6.6%. So those are very positive numbers. Speaker 200:19:46And both of those would be lower than pre pandemic. Speaker 600:19:50Yes. It's a very low number on the therapists. Interesting. Thanks a lot. Speaker 300:19:55Thank you. Operator00:19:58Our next question comes from Andrew Mok with Barclays. Speaker 400:20:02Good morning. Good morning. Speaker 500:20:04Hi, good morning. Was hoping you could give us a little bit more detail on de novo openings this year, just overall cadence and timing. There were no openings in Q1. So how should we think about the 6 de novos for the balance of the year? Thanks. Speaker 500:20:17Yes. Speaker 300:20:17Certainly, as we alluded to at the beginning of the year, you're going to have a different pattern this year than you did last year. Last year, we benefited in terms of the annual net pre opening and ramp up costs by the fact that we had earlier openings. We had those that were predominantly JVs, 5 of the ones that we opened last year were JVs and you had a couple of hospital and hospitals which tend to ramp up faster. We're skewed now with our openings into the final three quarters of this year, which is leading to kind of the year over year change and particularly over the balance of the 3 quarters. If you look over the final three quarters of last year, net pre opening and ramp up costs were a negative $2,400,000 If you subtract out from the $15,000,000 to $18,000,000 range we have for 2024, the $1,800,000 we experienced in Q1, you're left with an anticipated $13,200,000 to $16,200,000 impact in Q2 through Q4. Speaker 300:21:26The midpoint of that range is $14,700,000 so that would represent a little over a $12,000,000 delta on a year over year basis. Speaker 500:21:37Got it. That's helpful. But if we just take a step back and think about the 6 de novo, should we think 2 per quarter for the remaining 3 quarters? Or is there even more of a back end skew to that? Speaker 300:21:49I think we've got 2 opening in Q2 and then the balance are in Q3. Speaker 500:21:57Got it. Speaker 300:21:57One will likely extend into Q4. Speaker 500:22:00Okay. That's helpful. And then occupancy in the quarter ticked up to about 76.7%, which I think was a notable sequential and year over year increase. I know you have elevated bed additions coming online this year, but can you give us a sense for what full capacity looks like or maybe where your top decile hospitals sit on an occupancy basis? Thanks. Speaker 300:22:22Yes. So occupancy during the quarter was definitely favorably impacted by normal seasonality as well as the volume increase we saw and the fact that there were no counterweights in terms of de novos opening in the quarter. Again, as we move forward, we would hope to see the overall occupancy rate continue to move up modestly over time. And really the primary reason there in addition to the fact that demand environment remains very positive is that we are increasingly seeing a higher percentage of our overall beds in private rooms, which eliminates the capacity constraints can be caused by gender compatibility and other issues requiring patient isolation. And again, the increase in private beds is coming from really 2 initiatives. Speaker 300:23:15The first being that virtually all of our capacity additions, be they bed additions to existing hospitals or de novos are comprised of all private rooms. Then the second is when we are doing major remodels and renovations, where we are able, we are taking the opportunity to convert semi private rooms to private rooms. In terms of targeting a specific theoretical occupancy peak, it's hard to do that because we still have such a mixed bag within our overall physical plant. But generally speaking, in a facility that is all semi private, you start to hit capacity constraints north of 80%. When you're in a facility that is all private room, you can run into the mid to high 90s. Operator00:24:10Our next question will come from Ann Hynes with Mizuho Securities. Speaker 300:24:14Good morning. Good morning. Speaker 700:24:15Good morning. So I just want to talk about guidance. You beat consensus estimates on the adjusted EBITDA side by close to 10%. So even by encompasses conservative history, just the 1% guidance rate seems conservative to me. So maybe can you tell us what the quarter actually was versus your internal expectations? Speaker 700:24:38And is there anything we should consider as we go out throughout the rest of 2024, why you wouldn't be able to see this type of strong growth going forward? Speaker 300:24:48Yes. Ann, I think you really hit on the key point, which is, as a reminder, we issue annual guidance. We don't provide quarterly guidance. And I know that creates a challenge for you and your peers because you need to provide quarterly estimates that are out there. When we were thinking about our own expectations for Q1 performance, we were specifically looking at the momentum that we had coming in from Q4, the normal seasonality, but then we acknowledge the fact that you had an extra day in the quarter due to leap year and that there would be some timing benefit that would be attributable to the Easter holiday falling on a Sunday, which is the last day of the quarter. Speaker 300:25:32That's kind of a rare phenomenon. In the quarter, we also got the unanticipated benefit from the provider tax income. So yes, the quarter was still ahead of our expectations, which is the primary reason that we are revising our guidance upward. But there should not be an assumption made that our expectation internally was consistent with the consensus estimate. As we look at the back end of the year, I think the primary considerations are one that I've already reviewed, which is the year over year change in the impact from de novo pre opening and ramp up costs. Speaker 300:26:11And then really it's a pretty straightforward story where you fall in the range that we provided or whether we're able to ultimately revise that range upward through the course of the year is going to be predominantly a function of 2 things. 1 is, does volume continue? We're up against challenging comps, but feel very good about the underlying demand out there. And then what is ultimately the dynamic that exists over the final three quarters of the year between the pricing, which is relatively locked in and the rate of labor inflation that we experience. Speaker 700:26:48Great. And I guess my follow-up question really has to do with that rate. I mean, I know you're getting a 3% increase from CMS, but it kind of seems lopsided given the labor environment over the past couple of years. Is there a delay in the way the calculation works that maybe over the next couple of years you should see an acceleration of rates given what's happening in the just in the labor environment? Speaker 300:27:14So when you look at the rule making for all of the post acute sectors, the only sector that has a forecast error adjustment, which means it's looking backwards to say, did we miss a rate of underlying inflation in the provider's cost structure that needs to be factored in the go forward rate is SNIFs. And that dates back to some legislation from the early 2000s. They must have had a good lobbying effort. I can't really tell you anything more about that. For IRFs, there's no catch up. Speaker 300:27:50And so every year, the market basket update is based on forward looking. It's the anticipated rate of inflation in the next year, not what you experienced in the previous year. So you would hope at some point those become relatively consistent, but there isn't a catch up mechanism built into the IRF rulemaking cycle. Speaker 200:28:10And Ann, one of the other areas on that too, you never really know when there's going to be some other adjustment around productivity or something that's unforeseen that CMS would apply that would pull the net rate increase downward. So that's what makes a bit of a challenge. Speaker 700:28:28All right. Thanks. Operator00:28:32Our next question will come from Scott Fidel with Stephens. Speaker 300:28:36Good morning. Good morning, Scott. Speaker 800:28:37Hi, thanks. Good morning. First question, just curious on your thinking right now around potential capital return, particularly as it relates to buyback when thinking about the strength in the performance of the business, leverage now being at the low end of the target, the cash on hand, etcetera. Just curious on your sort of thinking about potentially ramping up buyback activity. Speaker 300:29:05Yes, it's certainly on the table and it's going to be a topic of continuing Board discussion. For all of the reasons that you cited, even with the cyber attack unchanged healthcare, our cash flow remained very strong in the quarter because we were able to implement those workarounds and because of the strength of the business and the flow through from the adjusted EBITDA. All of the points that you noted are very important ones, which the net leverage is all the way down to 2.5 times, there's $130,000,000 of cash on balance sheet. We're generating enough internal cash flow to fund all of our discretionary CapEx plus the dividend. So it certainly opens up other options for capital deployment and that's very much on the agenda for our Board now. Speaker 800:29:54Okay. Thank you. And then a follow-up question, just would be interested in your thinking on the final SNF staffing rule. I know it's somewhat second degree removed, but just really in sort of 2 areas in particular. One, as you've talked about the opportunity over the long term for capturing more volumes from SNPs in terms of SNPs conversion, whether that final staffing rule would have any influence over that? Speaker 800:30:23And then just also whether you any thoughts on this type of sort of staffing mandate at the federal level, if you've heard anything about that moving into other post acute sectors? Obviously, IRFs would be top of mind for you in terms of any slippery slope type dynamic relating to the final SNF staffing rule? Thanks. Speaker 200:30:43Yes. So this is Mark. And certainly, I Speaker 600:30:46don't know all the details of Speaker 200:30:47the SNF rule, but just in general, we feel like we have done a really nice job with our quality outcomes and making that value proposition that helps separate us from other providers in the marketplace, whether it's other IRFs or skilled nursing facilities. Clearly, the SNFs have been challenged the past several years through COVID and otherwise. So they have a lot of ground to make up, so to speak. But we're very focused on what we're doing right now around our programming and our quality. And I don't see the sniff rule having any impact on the market share that we've been able to take. Speaker 300:31:28And it really shouldn't be applicable to IRFs in the future because our staffing is really already dictated by the mandated requirements of care. The complement of therapists that we have in our facilities is driven by the therapy rules. Again, that's the 3 hours of therapy per day, 5 days a week. It's got to be multi disciplined therapy. And the preponderance has to be administered in individual versus a group or a concurrent setting. Speaker 300:32:02And then we also have very stringent nursing requirements that are mandated. So this was something that was lacking in the SNF industry, which is why I think you're seeing this come down. It is not something that is applicable because there needs to be adjustment in the IRF segment. And keep Speaker 200:32:19in mind, we're already taking a pretty acute level rehab patients that's medically complex. And as part of that, we adjust our nursing staffing to make sure that we can do a great job in taking care of those patients and not have those patients go back to the acute care hospital. So there are a lot of either rules of thumb or formal rules that are currently in place around what it takes to staff or hospitals to meet the type of patients we're taking in. Speaker 500:32:52Okay. Thank you. Operator00:32:55Our next question will come from John Ransom with Raymond James. Speaker 300:33:00Good morning, John. Good morning. Speaker 900:33:01Hey, good morning. I'm just kind of curious the role of there's a lot of talk a few years ago about the conveners and the navigators. I'm just wondering, when you're in the fight for these patient referrals, if you really notice any sort of change or things kind of settled down and the 3 legs of post acute kind of have their share. It looks fairly stable when you look at the numbers across the 3 modalities. But how do you think about when you talk to these discharge planners, these navigators, how are they thinking about things the same or differently than maybe 5 years ago? Speaker 200:33:36John, I think it has settled down a bit. When we've seen these navigators come into various marketplaces, there might be a short term impact on referrals or their approval for a patient to be discharged to an IRF, but that is usually somewhat short lived. They see the issues quality and otherwise that come in place in the market when they try to dictate where the patient goes according to just the cost of care. And so that pops up in the marketplace then seems to go away within 30 to 45 days. So it I think it settled down overall compared to where it was 3, 4 years ago. Speaker 100:34:24Thanks very much. Operator00:34:28Our next question will come from Pito Chickering with Deutsche Bank. Speaker 400:34:32Hey, guys. Good morning, guys. How are you guys doing? Speaker 300:34:36Good. Speaker 400:34:36Awesome. Nice quarter. So digging into the OpEx leverage you guys got this quarter, you talked about sort of dialysis and recruiting as large drivers there. What have been the returns on doing dialysis yourself? And with dialysis at 88 hospitals, is it safe to model additional OpEx leverage going forward from that lever? Speaker 300:34:56Yes. So the straight math on the dialysis conversion is when we use an outside contractor on average, it costs us about $600 When we do it internally, it costs us about $300 The reimbursement is the same because that's basically coded into the requirements of the patient when they're admitted to our facility. So that incremental $300 per treatment is a flow through. And then you get the other benefits that are very difficult to quantify such as the fact that a patient's therapy isn't being disrupted and you're not having to incur transportation costs to go outside the facility if that's an alternative. In terms of continuing leverage from that in OE, we would expect to see that. Speaker 300:35:44Now bear in mind, some of that is straight reduction in cost. Some of it is also a geography issue. When we contract with a third party that $600 100 percent of it runs through OOE as a contract services expense. When we do it internally, that cost gets spread out into other line items, the largest of which is SWB. And then we would expect that based on some of the efficiencies we're seeing both in terms of advertising costs that are out there and some of the different modalities and approaches that we have developed within our recruiting efforts that even as we continue robust recruiting efforts to make sure that we keep pace with our clinical requirements with new hires, that we'll continue to see some efficiencies in recruiting as well. Speaker 300:36:36Okay. Speaker 400:36:36And then so quick question on that one. I guess how many dialysis patients do you guys have? And then sort of second part here is on provider tax revenues. That's really been a big driver for you guys historically. Obviously, we saw $6,900,000 in the 4th or in the Q1, I guess. Speaker 400:36:51How should we think about that going forward? Thanks. Speaker 200:36:54Yes. So Pito, somewhere between around 3% to 5% of our total patients are on dialysis care either internally or where we have a vendor come into our hospital. So we do think that's going to be a continued focus and look a larger percentage of the population has issues that will put them on some sort of dialysis care. So we think it's a growing need for our hospitals. Provider taxes, Peter, Speaker 300:37:25are notoriously hard to predict in terms of timing and magnitude. And in most quarters where we get that kind of provider tax revenue, we've got the offsetting, largely offsetting expense. So from an EBITDA perspective, it doesn't cause much fluctuation. We haven't baked any net benefit from provider taxes into our guidance for the balance of the year. Speaker 400:37:52Great. Thanks so much. Operator00:37:56Our next question will come from Ben Hendricks with RBC Capital Markets. Speaker 300:38:00Good morning. Good Speaker 1000:38:02morning. Thank you very much. I think most of my questions have been answered, but I did want to follow-up on your comments about the Review Choice demonstration and specifically your decision to continue with 100% pre claim review in Alabama. I know you've had periods of elevated denial activity with fiscal intermediaries in the past. It seems like the sampling election would help you sidestep some of that risk. Speaker 1000:38:26I just wanted to get your thought process there and kind of how relations with intermediaries are going? Thank you. Speaker 200:38:32Yes. So the relations have gone well thus far around that particularly. We majority of our hospitals under Palmetto. We decided actually the team decided to continue off the 100% review. We felt like we put in a good discipline within our hospitals around documentation and capturing everything we needed to in the chart. Speaker 200:38:57And to stray from that just seemed like it wasn't the right thing to do given the process that we'd already had put in place. So the hospitals actually helped make that decision to stay at 100%. Speaker 300:39:12The benefit of the 100% pre claim review, there's really kind of 2 fold. One is, it allows for a much more iterative process with the MAX, so that we can find out if they're viewing anything regarding a patient's appropriateness in our hospitals as either view if they're either viewing it erroneously or if there's if they're perceiving a required change in our documentation, we can make that adjustment. The other thing is you get a larger sample size. So one of the risks that's associated with that 5% pre claim review is they look at one particular patient and they disqualify that patient based on a circumstance and then apply that through extrapolation to a broader base. Whereas if we've got the 100% pre claim review that are out there, we can line that patient that they may be contesting up with many others that have been approved elsewhere in their organization and say you tell us what's different. Speaker 300:40:18So we just think because the infrastructure is already placed and procedures are already in place that this is the right way for us to proceed through cycle 2. Speaker 1000:40:30And just is the added cost of the 100% material? Speaker 300:40:35No, it's already in place. Speaker 1000:40:37Got you. Thank you very much. Operator00:40:41We We'll now hear from Brian Tanquilut with Jefferies. Speaker 400:40:47Hello, Brian. Hey, good morning. Congrats on the quarter. Speaker 300:40:52I actually just Speaker 1100:40:52have a little question. Maybe Doug, can you share with us the what it looked like in terms of the growth rates in the different diagnoses of patients coming in? I guess where Speaker 400:41:02I'm coming from is as Speaker 1100:41:03we think of a broader utilization strength, just curious if it's specific to stroke or are we seeing more from like elective procedures such as drug replacements? Speaker 300:41:14The story is really pretty consistent with what we saw the back half of last year. So good growth in neurological and stroke in the quarter. Neurological was up just north of 10%, stroke was up almost 12%. We did see a pretty significant increase in brain injury that was up 11.1%. Other ortho was up almost 16%. Speaker 300:41:42But again, remember that's off of a smaller base. So we are seeing a broadening in terms of some more rapid growth in some of the smaller categories that have gotten deferred for a period of time during COVID, but the strength in our higher acuity categories continues to be there as well. Speaker 200:42:01Brian, those electric procedures, we just don't see a lot of them. As a matter of fact, I mean, for just joint replacement, it's a little bit less than 3% of our total patient mix. So it's not really had a large impact on us. Speaker 300:42:16Yes. One of our smallest categories, but knee and hip replacement was up 20% during the quarter. All right. Got it. Thank you. Operator00:42:27Our final question will come from Jared Haas with William Blair. Speaker 300:42:31Good morning. Speaker 1200:42:33Yes. Hi, guys. Good morning. Thanks for sneaking me in here. Maybe I'll just ask one around the Change Healthcare disruption. Speaker 1200:42:40And specifically, I know you mentioned kind of some of the work you did to implement workarounds and maybe enhance or build out some of your internal capabilities. I'd just be curious, any particular areas of interest that you called out where you made investments or sort of built out those workflows? And then I guess the other question is just should we think about any leverage benefit from that just in terms of you internalizing a little bit more of the sort of RCM capabilities? Speaker 300:43:08Yes. So the if you think about how we and how most providers utilize change, it was for 2 things. 1 is what's called claims scrubbing, which is just to make sure that as you are sending a claim to any particular payer, whether it's CMS through 1 of the intermediaries or to 1 of the Medicare Advantage or managed care players that you're getting the documentation in the form that is most readily acceptable and desired by that particular payer. The second thing is that for us and for others, change really served as the electronic intermediary in terms of submitting the claims and getting those processed. The primary thing that we did internally was establish our electronic interface with CMS and now extending that to other payers as well. Speaker 300:44:03Whether or not there's going to be any kind of leverage that ultimately comes from that, I think is going to depend on a go forward basis between the balance that we have in restoring claims processing through change, these other third party vendors that we identified and put in place during the process and how much we choose to do internally. It's still somewhat of a dynamic situation. We will refrain from going back to a situation where we have an overdependence on any one single vendor. Jared, Speaker 200:44:37I do want to call out our teams in our centralized billing office down in Tampa as well as our IT staff because they worked extremely hard to minimize the impact on this and figure out workarounds to come in at night, on the weekends to make sure that we were being taken care of from a company standpoint. So I did want to point that out. Speaker 1200:45:02Yes, that's great to hear. Thanks guys for all the color and I'll go ahead and leave it there. Speaker 200:45:07All right. Thank you. Operator00:45:10That will conclude the question and answer session. I will now turn the call over to Mark Miller for any additional or closing remarks. Speaker 100:45:18Thank you, operator. If anyone has additional questions, please call me at 205-970 5860. Thank you again for joining today's call. Operator00:45:31This does conclude today's conference. Thank you for your participation. You may nowRead morePowered by