Entergy Q1 2024 Earnings Call Transcript

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April 24, 2024
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Operator

Good morning. My name is Alex and I will be your conference operator today. At this time, I would like to welcome everyone to Entergy's First Quarter 2024 Earnings Conference Call. [Operator Instructions] Thank you. I will now turn the call over to Bill Abler, Vice-President of Investor Relations for Entergy Corporation.

Bill Abler
Vice President, Investor Relations at Entergy

Good morning and thank you for joining us. We will begin today with comments from Entergy's Chair and CEO, Drew Marsh; and Kimberly Fontan, our CFO, will review results. In an effort to accommodate everyone who has questions, we request that each person ask no more than two questions. In today's call, management will make certain forward-looking statements. Actual results could differ materially from these forward-looking statements due to a number of factors which are set forth in our earnings release, our slide presentation, and our SEC filings. Entergy does not assume any obligation to update these forward-looking statements.

Management will also discuss non-GAAP financial information. Reconciliations to the applicable GAAP measures are included in today's press release and slide presentation, both of which can be found on the Investor Relations section of our website. And now, I will turn the call over to Drew.

Drew Marsh
Chairman & Chief Executive Officer at Entergy

Thank you, Bill, and good morning, everyone. We had a very productive start to the year with progress on activities that support our near and long-term objectives. That includes continued progress towards our growth opportunity as well as important achievements in our risk reduction efforts that will benefit our key stakeholders. Starting with our financial results for the quarter. Today, we are reporting adjusted earnings per share of $1.08. This result for the quarter is below our expectations, yet we remain firmly on track to deliver on our annual commitments.

I'm confident because of actions we have already taken, our team's track-record on flexible spending, and our demonstrated ability to deliver steady predictable results. Kimberly will give -- will go over the details. Now, I'll cover the business updates from the quarter. Everything we do starts with a customer because that is the key to create value for all our stakeholders, customers, employees, communities, and owners. Our efforts on that front were recently recognized by EEI's outstanding National Key Accounts Customer Engagement Award, which is determined by customers. Validating our customer-centric progress, hundreds of the nation's leading chain and multi-site businesses voted to recognize Entergy for delivering exceptional service.

We still have more work to do, but we are grateful for this milestone. Additional evidence of progress comes from the execution of eight new electric service agreements with industrial customers signed in the quarter, including the data center in Mississippi that we announced earlier this year. These contracts represent approximately 1.1 gigawatts of new load and more than $150 million of annual adjusted gross margin. As a reminder, our conservative planning practices assume that most rather than all volumes will come to fruition. Customer affordability remains a key focus area. Last quarter, I outlined our efforts to secure federal support for projects that would benefit our customers.

Our utilities received six letters of encouragement from the GRIP application submitted late last year. Full applications for all six projects will be submitted to the Department of Energy by the end of May. We also continue to advance our $4.5 billion Part 2 application for the DOE loan program, which if successful, will lower capital costs for our customers. Our nuclear fleet continues to make progress and all our nuclear plants are now in column 1 of the NRC action matrix. However, operational excellence must be earned every day. Waterford 3 is currently working to recover from a shutdown following a transformer failure.

At approximately 20 years-old, the transformer was only halfway through its expected life and early indications point to equipment failure as the cause. We have an interim solution with a spare transformer that can support up to 90% capacity until the replacement transformer arrives. We are working diligently to bring the plant back online in the coming weeks. In Mississippi, Grand Gulf wrapped up its 28 day refueling outage in March. This is the plant's shortest refueling outage since 2007. This outcome is a result of the team's intense focus on safety and operational excellence. We, and most importantly, our customers appreciate the work they put in to achieve this outcome. Stakeholder engagement remains a focus area and an important way to assess progress is through our regulatory outcomes.

Starting at the federal level, System Energy reached $116 million agreement in principle with the New Orleans City Council to resolve all current SERI claims. Several New Orleans City Council members cited near and long-term benefits to customers through the settlement. This agreement is consistent with SERI settlements with Mississippi and Arkansas, both of which were approved by FERC and determined to be fair and reasonable. It's also consistent with the reserve recorded in 2022. With the addition of New Orleans, SERI has resolved roughly 85% of its litigation risk.

Turning to the retail level. Last week, the Louisiana Public Service Commission approved the first phase of Entergy Louisiana's resilience and grid hardening plan. The plan includes 2100 projects totaling $1.9 billion of investments over five years. The project will provide important resilience benefits to customers and communities. A more resilient grid will also serve as a catalyst for growth as it bolsters confidence for customers seeking to locate or expand in our service area. The approval includes a forward-looking recovery mechanism with semi-annual true-ups, which will provide a solid foundation for our continued customer investment in Louisiana.

There are also reporting requirements to provide transparency to our stakeholders on our progress. While the investments will take place over the next five years, we are getting underway immediately. For those of you attending our Analyst Day in person, we will show you some examples of the future of our system through recently installed resilience projects. Entergy Louisiana is also in settlement discussions on two other proceedings. The FRP renewal or alternatively a base rate case and the streamline and enhanced renewable RFP process to add-up to 3,000 megawatts of solar. Given solid progress thus far, the hearing dates for these dockets have been extended to allow time to resettlement in these cases.

Entergy Louisiana also filed for approval of Bayou Power Station, a $411 million 112 megawatt quick start non-base low natural gas power station. It is an innovative solution to meet the power needs in a challenging area on the edge of the Eastern interconnect. To enhance local resilience and storm restoration speed, the unit would be situated atop a barge in Southern Louisiana. This is an area that is critical to our nation's energy security and Louisiana's economy. Entergy New Orleans filed an updated resilience and grid hardening plan, which requests approval of Phase-1, a series of investments totaling $168 million over three years.

This is in addition to the GRIP resilience project that was approved by the City Council earlier this year. We are requesting to expedite the technical conference to May 1 and we are seeking a decision around midyear so we can get started on this important work for customers. Our gas LDC sale continues to move along smoothly. The stakeholder engagement process has been going well and we remain on track to close the transaction by the third quarter of 2025.

And lastly, Entergy Mississippi filed its annual FRP in March. Mississippi's efficient mechanism enables continued customer-centric investment while providing appropriate credit support for Entergy Mississippi as it makes these investments. Interim rates became effective on April 1st. Finally, we are very excited about our upcoming Analyst Day in June. We'll use that opportunity to show off New Orleans, give you a look at our resilience investment and provide a more detailed dive into our multi-year strategy and outlook. That includes the significant customer growth opportunities before us, the plans to expand our clean-energy portfolio and to advance reliability and resilience, and our efforts to help support customer affordability while maintaining our credit strength and earnings growth.

We've had a productive start to 2024 with solid progress and execution across key customer, operational, regulatory, and financial fronts. And by continuing to put our customers first back, we will deliver premium value to each of our key stakeholders. I'll now turn the call over to Kimberly, who will review our financial results for the quarter.

Kimberly Fontan
Chief Financial Officer at Entergy

Thank you, Drew. Good morning, everyone. Today, we are reporting first-quarter adjusted earnings per share of $1.08. Several items affected the quarter results, including mild weather, the timing of operating expenses, including planned generator maintenance outages and the acceleration of vegetation spending and lower sales to co-generation customers. With the first-quarter results under our belt, we remain firmly on track to achieve 2024 results in line with our guidance and we are well-positioned to achieve our long-term 6% to 8% growth outlook.

I'll review all of this in detail. In the quarter, we had two items that were considered adjustments and excluded from adjusted earnings that I'd like to mention. First, Entergy Arkansas received a decision from the US District Court in a long-standing case around opportunity sales. The decision resulted in Entergy Arkansas recording a $0.46 impairment of a regulatory asset in the quarter. Second, Entergy New Orleans recorded a $0.27 regulatory charge to share incremental income tax benefits from the 2016 to 2018 IRS audit resolution. Our first-quarter adjusted EPS drivers are laid out on Slide 4.

Our results reflect regulatory actions that include recovery of the investments that we are making to benefit our customers. Depreciation expense is also higher as a result of those investments. For retail sales, as I noted earlier, weather was mild this year, but not as mild as 2023. Excluding weather, sales volume was not a big driver for earnings as higher sales to residential was largely offset by lower sales to commercial. Industrial sales were down 0.6% quarter-over-quarter, driven by lower sales to cogeneration customers. We continually monitor fundamentals important to our industrial customers.

As you can see in the appendix of our presentation, the metrics remain supportive, giving us confidence in our industrial growth outlook. Utility other O&M was higher this quarter than first-quarter last year due to several drivers, some of which have variability throughout the year. For example, healthcare claims were higher and we had more planned maintenance outages at non-nuclear plants. We also accelerated vegetation management in advance of storm season. Compared to our guidance assumption, other O&M in the quarter was higher than initially planned. However, we fully expect O&M to balance out over the year and ultimately be roughly in-line with our original guidance assumption.

Moving to Slide 5, operating cash flow for the quarter was $521 million, which was lower than last year. The largest driver was customer receipts, which included significant deferred fuel collections in 2023. Deferred fuel costs within operating cash flow declined approximately $350 million compared to last year. Credit is summarized on Slide 6. We maintain a strong ongoing focus on our credit as it is an important element in executing on investments for our customers. For the quarter, our metrics were impacted by timing of debt issuances that will balance out over the course of the year.

Our underlying business continues to generate strong FFO and our outlook support metrics in range or better than the rating agency expectations. On Monday, S&P issued a credit update for SERI, improving its outlook to positive and affirming its rating followed the announced settlement with the SERI[Phonetic] Council of New Orleans. S&P further noted that they could raise SERIs ratings by one-notch if the settlement is approved by FERC. As we have said, settlement of system energy litigation provides certainty for all stakeholders. Consistent with this, S&P noted these settlements reduce uncertainty of potential future claims and support the company's future cash-flow stability and predictability.

Turning to Slide 7, our equity needs remain unchanged. We continue to make progress against our 2025 and 2026 equity needs. As of the end-of-the quarter, we've locked in more than 30% of our equity need for those years utilizing ATM forward. As shown on Slide 8, we are affirming our guidance and longer-term adjusted EPS outlooks. Weather and lower sales to co-generation customers have been a headwind to start the year. For the full-year, we are benefiting from sales to additional industrial customers. The impact of these sales offsets this headwind. We continue to be on track for our full-year expectations.

Regarding utility O&M, quarterly timing can vary significantly, especially when compared to a prior year where we deployed significant flex spending for the benefit of customers following a very hot summer. As we look to second quarter this year, we expect O&M to be higher than last year with the increase roughly in line with the first-quarter variance. Key drivers of the timing of our spending in 2024 include the following. In 2023, all of our Flex spending increases were in the back-end of the year. So we expect corresponding reductions in spending this year in that same timeframe. In second-quarter last year, we received significant prescription rebates covering multiple years, which we don't expect to recur at that level or in the same timeframe this year.

I noted earlier that our first-quarter variance[Phonetic] includes accelerated vegetation spending. We expect that acceleration to continue in advance of storm season in 2024. This acceleration reduces spending in the back-half of 2024, assuming normal weather. While we have variability in the quarters and spending, I want to reiterate that we fully expect O&M to balance out over the year consistent with our outlook, and we are confident we will deliver on our financial commitments. We continue to prioritize the needs of our customers to create value for our key stakeholders. We're well-positioned to execute and deliver successful customer, operational, and regulatory outcomes along with steady predictable financial results.

As Drew said, we're excited about our Analyst Day in June, where we will provide a long-term in-depth view of our plans for the future. And now the Entergy team is available to answer questions.

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Operator

Hello everyone. We are now opening the floor for question-and-answer. [Operator Instructions] We have our first question from Shar Pourreza from Guggenheim Partners. Your line is now open.

Constantine Lednev
Analyst at Guggenheim Partners

Hi, good morning team. It's actually Constantine here for Shar. Thanks for taking the questions.

Drew Marsh
Chairman & Chief Executive Officer at Entergy

Hey, good morning.

Constantine Lednev
Analyst at Guggenheim Partners

Can we start on the updated thoughts around the capex plan given the data points around resiliency and additional industrial customers, you had about $900 million in plan with a bigger number now approved. Is that pushing capex higher in the near term? And how should we think about the moving pieces there? Thanks.

Kimberly Fontan
Chief Financial Officer at Entergy

Constantine, yes from a capital plan, we did get $1.9 million approved. We had $900 million through this outlook period. Of the $1.9 billion approved, about $1.5 million of that is in that same three-year period. So that's an increment of about $700 million for Louisiana. The Louisiana portion of that $900 million was $800 million. So that's an incremental $700 million how that rolls out through the capital plan, we'll update all that in -- at Analyst Day, along with the effects of the rider and any other changes to our capital and our financing plan.

Constantine Lednev
Analyst at Guggenheim Partners

Okay. Perfect. And maybe can you help us reconcile some of the charges taken in the quarter and how the refunds may impact cash and financing needs in the near term? Just do you anticipate any pull forward of equity issuance? Or are there offsetting factors that we should think about?

Kimberly Fontan
Chief Financial Officer at Entergy

We don't see any needed change in equity. We had already reserved a substantial portion of the income tax or the deferred tax effect for New Orleans, we did increase that, but it's -- the return period is a pretty long period. And so there's no effects in the outlook period, no material effect on the outlook period.

Constantine Lednev
Analyst at Guggenheim Partners

Perfect. And maybe just one last follow-up on some of your commentary around regulatory outcomes. Do you have any updated thoughts around the FRP process and rate case process in Louisiana and is the period after the direct testimony kind of the make it ripe for kind of more intense settlement discussions? Any kind of lessons learned that you can implement?

Rod West
Group President-Utility Operations at Entergy

Good morning. It's Rod. I think I can say, look, five weeks ago, we filed -- we suspended the procedural schedule to facilitate settlement. If you think about the date of May 21, when staff and intervenor testimonies do, in the next three weeks, I think it's reasonable to assume that one or three things will happen. We either announce the settlement. We'll mutually agree to extend the dates procedurally to facilitate settlement or pivot back to a procedural schedule with the resiliency docket addressed last week, I think the next three weeks will be telling about the progress we make. But we're -- we're comfortable that the stakeholders in Louisiana are now focused on settlement discussions.

Constantine Lednev
Analyst at Guggenheim Partners

Perfect. Thanks for that and appreciate taking the questions. Best of luck.

Drew Marsh
Chairman & Chief Executive Officer at Entergy

Thank you.

Operator

Our next question comes from Jeremy Tonet from JPMorgan. Your line is now open.

Jeremy Tonet
Analyst at JPMorgan Chase & Co.

Hi, good morning.

Drew Marsh
Chairman & Chief Executive Officer at Entergy

Good morning. Jeremy.

Jeremy Tonet
Analyst at JPMorgan Chase & Co.

Hi. I just wanted to dig in a little bit more on plus $0.15 revised weather-normal sales just a stronger industrial sales outlook as you put out there. If you could kind of bucket whether that's more the pet chems benefiting from cheap ethane and the outlook improving there or cheap methane benefiting ammonia other industries or whether that's data centers, just wondering which one of the industrial activities out there? Are you seeing, I guess, more upside?

Rod West
Group President-Utility Operations at Entergy

I think -- this is Rod. I can touch on that and certainly Kim really can follow. But beyond the AWS transaction in Mississippi, we're continuing to see significant interest in the data center sector both hyperscale as well as colocation in Arkansas, Louisiana and Mississippi. But we continue to see strong interest from the metal sector as well, specifically aluminum and steel with projects in various stages of development you can add in there with the IRA developments are showing up in blue ammonia in addition to the conversations around carbon -- carbon capture. And that's not to exclude what we would consider to be our traditional sectors of growth in the service territory around refining and petrochemicals. We plan to give more color, of course, at Analyst Day, but I didn't want to suggest that there was one specific sector. There's a fair amount of diversity in our backlog and growth outlook.

Kimberly Fontan
Chief Financial Officer at Entergy

And Jeremy, just to add to that for the $0.15 for this year, you can think about that specifically as our historic industry along the Gulf Coast, and those industrial customers are online and taking power currently.

Jeremy Tonet
Analyst at JPMorgan Chase & Co.

Got it. That makes sense. It's very helpful there. That kind of leads into my next question. I was just wondering for the Analyst Day. Obviously, you're not going to give us all the details here, but just wondering any broad parameters of what we should expect on the day.

Drew Marsh
Chairman & Chief Executive Officer at Entergy

Well, I mentioned a few of them in my remarks earlier around -- some of the things that Rod just discussed and the opportunities that we see for growth from a sales perspective and where that's coming from some more color and depth to that conversation. Certainly, more clarity around the kinds of investments that we plan to make. And that includes the generation side as well as the poles and wire side, we're talking about reliability and resilience. Some of the work that we are doing to drive productivity internally. From a data perspective, we'll be giving a more robust outlook that goes out to five years. That will include capital and earnings, and we'll make clear, as Kimberly just mentioned about our expectations from a financing perspective. And also, since we'll be in New Orleans, we'll have a number of our leaders here with us, and you'll get the ability to access the broader segments of our management and leadership team that you normally do when you just see Rod and Kimberly and Bill Abler and myself out on the road. So you'll get to see what we are seeing in our various jurisdictions and getting more boots on the ground view of how things are progressing.

Jeremy Tonet
Analyst at JPMorgan Chase & Co.

Got it. Sounds great there. And if I could, I just want to finish with SERI real quick. It seems like a lot of meaningful progress over the past year or so. And just wondering your thoughts on, I guess, the prospect for continued positive momentum here in settlements given all the ground that's been covered so far.

Rod West
Group President-Utility Operations at Entergy

Yes. And I think the -- you're right, being in a position where we can say comfortably that roughly 85% of the SERI risk has been addressed through settlement. It does lend itself to what I would think would be a compelling case to resolve the rest with the State of Louisiana. We can't speak and don't speak around the nuances of negotiations in any period. But we do believe that the fact that New Orleans is now off the table, it gives us a shot to pursue some with Louisiana near term.

Jeremy Tonet
Analyst at JPMorgan Chase & Co.

Got it. That's helpful. Thank you.

Operator

Our next question comes from Michael Lonegan from Evercore ISI. Your line is now open.

Michael Lonegan
Analyst at Evercore ISI

Hi. Thanks for taking my question. I was wondering if you could provide a preview of your planned resiliency filing in Texas. You laid out a cadence of spending for Texas at the EEI conference, and I was just wondering if the Texas Resiliency Act since then has changed how you're thinking about it in terms of the amount and timing of planned investments?

Rod West
Group President-Utility Operations at Entergy

Yeah, it's Rod again. We're going to make that filing in the second quarter, and some of the considerations around the amount will be influenced by how we think about the contribution to the resilient spend from the state grant program, not to mention, to your earlier point, how the capital would flow through the recovery mechanisms affecting both affordability and credit. But we'll make that filing before the end of second quarter. I'll add that, as you probably recall, the Texas part of the resilience investment was pushed back a little bit because we have a lot of growth upfront and so we probably won't see as much. And that's where the grant piece comes in. And also the mechanism, as we've talked about before, since we have all of this growth in our service territory, the mechanism doesn't work as well from a credit perspective for us. So we're working on that. We have another legislative session coming up, but you'll see all of that reflected in our ultimate resilience filing.

Michael Lonegan
Analyst at Evercore ISI

Great. Thank you. And then secondly, for me on the Bayou Power Station, is the $411 million of investment included in your base capital plan? And also given that it would be floating off the Louisiana coast, I was just wondering if you could talk about the protections in place for the plant from severe weather with work crews and equipment potentially being impacted. I know sometimes you see that with oil rigs off the coast.

Kimberly Fontan
Chief Financial Officer at Entergy

Yeah. As far as the $411 million that is included in our capital plan from a protection, it's a technology that's been used elsewhere. It's -- and certainly just not necessarily in this area up along the east coast. And certainly is expected to be resilient in heavy winds and storms.

Drew Marsh
Chairman & Chief Executive Officer at Entergy

And I'll just -- just to be clear, it's not out in the middle of the ocean. It is on land, but it's in a canal so that it can float with the storm surge so that's really what we're talking about here, not an oil rig out in the middle of the Gulf.

Michael Lonegan
Analyst at Evercore ISI

Yeah. Yeah, of course. Okay. Well, thank you very much.

Operator

Our next question comes from Nick Campanella from Barclays. Your line is now open.

Nick Campanella
Analyst at Barclays

Hey, good morning. Thanks for taking my questions.

Drew Marsh
Chairman & Chief Executive Officer at Entergy

Good morning.

Nick Campanella
Analyst at Barclays

I guess just -- good morning. Good morning. Going back to the data center discussion, just, you gave this stat on one point gigawatt -- 1.1 gigawatts of new load is going to be about $150 million of new gross margin. And this relates to the Mississippi Center. But just thinking about how that drops to the bottom line when you kind of take into financing costs or other items there, can you kind of help us understand how it translates to EPs? Just I'm thinking about, there's clearly more opportunities like this on the horizon and trying to see what those are worth. Thanks.

Kimberly Fontan
Chief Financial Officer at Entergy

Yeah, thanks for the question, Nick. When you think about the Mississippi data center it ramps up over time. So you're not going to see a lot of that in the three year outlook period. We can talk more about what that means over the five year that Drew referenced it at Analyst Day. But you're right, when you think about AGM on that sort of customer, you are also putting in infrastructure to support it. So there is -- you saw a shift in spending in the fourth quarter update where we added incremental renewables, for example, in Mississippi. So those investments and the associated costs associated with those investments will offset some of that from a bottom line perspective and then financing costs for those type of things as well. But again, you will see most of that effect outside the three-year outlook period.

Drew Marsh
Chairman & Chief Executive Officer at Entergy

Yeah. It's -- the investment is the thing that will ultimately go to the bottom line. The AGM is there to support that incremental investment. So we think it's really important and it demonstrates the growth opportunity that's out in front of us and the demand from our customers to help them meet what they want to do.

Nick Campanella
Analyst at Barclays

Great. That's really helpful. Appreciate it. And then I guess you mentioned in your remarks, and you have it on slides here, you've been above the 14% FFO-to-debt target that the agencies put you at? I'm just thinking about Moody's continuing to be on negative outlook. Do you think that there's a window to kind of address that ahead of summer? I mean, what's your latest conversations been there?

Kimberly Fontan
Chief Financial Officer at Entergy

We certainly have regular conversations with the rating agencies and they are constructive conversations about what's happening in the business. If you look at our underlying calculation, the FFO trailing twelve months for the quarter was similarly strong to what it was at the end of the year and then we issued more debt in this quarter. As I mentioned in my comments, that would balance out over the course of the year, putting us strongly in the rating agency's expectation at 14% or better. So strong discussion. Certainly the rating agencies have to do their evaluations and make those decisions, but hitting that threshold for 2023, which we did, and then continuing to execute on that, and as we work to build towards 15% are important to us.

Nick Campanella
Analyst at Barclays

All right. Thank you so much.

Drew Marsh
Chairman & Chief Executive Officer at Entergy

Thank you.

Operator

Our next question comes from Anthony Crowdell from Mizuho. Your line is now open.

Anthony Crowdell
Analyst at Mizuho

Hey, good morning, team. Hope all is well. I guess just quickly, if I could get Rod busy here just on SERI, Rod, I know there's -- you're working with the Louisiana Public Service Commission on maybe settling there. Separately there's the formula rate plan issue. Is there anything that prevents both of those being settled together, meaning one's a FERC issue and one may be more of a state issue?

Rod West
Group President-Utility Operations at Entergy

Short answer is no. We're pursuing our efforts today with stakeholders on settling both, and the interest being avoiding any litigation associated with either. So short answer is no. There's nothing preventing us from pursuing settlement on both issues, regardless of federal versus state jurisdiction.

Anthony Crowdell
Analyst at Mizuho

Great. And then just an easy one, I guess. Drew, on the gas sale update. I know it's a very long window for approval. Just any update or timing or procedural schedule you can provide us?

Drew Marsh
Chairman & Chief Executive Officer at Entergy

The gas LDC, as I mentioned, is on schedule. We have -- there's more details in the appendix, and so I think that at the LPSC, it's moving on quite quickly. The timeline's a little longer in New Orleans, but at this point, we don't see anything that's impeding the progress and the ultimate completion of the transaction. So we're firmly confident there is a possibility that it could move up a little bit. But at this point, we're sticking with our -- by third-quarter 2025 timeline.

Anthony Crowdell
Analyst at Mizuho

Great. Thanks for taking my questions.

Drew Marsh
Chairman & Chief Executive Officer at Entergy

Thank you.

Operator

Our next question comes from the line of Steve Fleishman from Wolfe Research. Your line is now open.

Steve Fleishman
Analyst at Wolfe Research

Yeah. Hi. Good morning. Thanks. Most of my questions were answered. Just wanted to get a little more information on this Waterford trip. Do you expect that you'll have the new transformer by kind of summertime?

Drew Marsh
Chairman & Chief Executive Officer at Entergy

Probably not. That's a new transformer. And as you -- I know you're aware there's a backlog for large transformers like that, and we don't have one of that size as a spare. So we do have the interim transformer ready to go, and it should be ready by summertime. That gets us back to about 90% and so the plant should be online this summer, but we won't have full deliverability out of the plant until we get a new transformer in place.

Steve Fleishman
Analyst at Wolfe Research

Okay. All right. But you can run 90% just with the spare. So it's kind of most of the way, so.

Drew Marsh
Chairman & Chief Executive Officer at Entergy

Yeah, correct.

Steve Fleishman
Analyst at Wolfe Research

Okay. And then maybe just on MISO transmission, when are we going to get -- I know they're going through their different tranches. Like, when are we going to get to the Entergy zone area for MISO transmission?

Drew Marsh
Chairman & Chief Executive Officer at Entergy

I believe that they are expecting to put something out late this year, but the timelines have moved around a little bit for them. But I think that was the previous expectation. You're talking -- just to be clear, you're talking about the long term planning piece of it, right?

Steve Fleishman
Analyst at Wolfe Research

That's right. That's right.

Drew Marsh
Chairman & Chief Executive Officer at Entergy

Yeah. Yeah. I think they're -- as you know, they've been in MISO north for a while working on stuff, and I do believe that they plan to put out some expectations later this year.

Steve Fleishman
Analyst at Wolfe Research

Okay. Okay. And then I guess just on the Cogen sales, just is this -- you still expect -- I expect industrial growth for the year. Cogen sales, if I recall, are pretty low margin.

Kimberly Fontan
Chief Financial Officer at Entergy

That's absolutely correct, Steve. And the cogen sales were for the quarter, but that's really a volume difference, slight EPS difference. But as we discussed, incremental industrial sales certainly support that, helping us achieve our objectives at the end of the year.

Steve Fleishman
Analyst at Wolfe Research

Okay. Thank you.

Drew Marsh
Chairman & Chief Executive Officer at Entergy

Thank you.

Operator

Our next question comes from the line of Angie Storozynski from Seaport Research Partners. Your line is now open.

Angie Storozynski
Analyst at Seaport Research Partners

Hi. Thank you. So two questions. First, as you see this, the data center load materializing in your service territory, is there any discussion about potential changes in like T&D tariffs that these big users would be paying? I'm mostly trying to see if there's any way to shield residential customers from payments for any sort of T&D upgrades that will be needed to accommodate this load?

Kimberly Fontan
Chief Financial Officer at Entergy

Good morning, Angie. Yes, when you think about data centers, they certainly are requiring infrastructure to support them. And so we are ensuring that the pricing of those customers priced in a way that support those customer coming, but also support the rest of our customers and the infrastructure build that's needed. When you reference Mississippi specifically, we worked closely with the legislature to ensure that we had the ability to add the infrastructure that we needed, but also that we protected all of our other customers through the contract. And so it was a benefit both to add the customer to the system, but also to the State of Mississippi and all of our other customers. And I would think about it the same way for future data centers that add to our service territory.

Angie Storozynski
Analyst at Seaport Research Partners

Got it. And speaking of Mississippi, and I'm just thinking about SERI, all of these issues that are related to the Grand Gulf nuclear plant. I mean, as you are basically trying to finish all of the litigations associated with that plant, is there -- I mean, would you, for example, consider signing like a long-term contract with a data center instead of having those sort of disputes with on the regulated level just to make this asset dedicated to an industrial or commercial user as opposed to having it. Again, it seems to have led to a number of regular[Phonetic] disputes in the past.

Drew Marsh
Chairman & Chief Executive Officer at Entergy

Yeah, that's a good question, Angie. And we are thinking about various potential solutions there. Right now, the output of those facilities are contracted for the life of the unit to each of the operating companies that participate. So I don't think that there's any room for data center pieces, but we are looking at all other alternatives in order to try to mitigate that future potential litigation risk. That is definitely on a radar screen, although we don't have anything to discuss about that right now.

Angie Storozynski
Analyst at Seaport Research Partners

Very good. Thank you.

Drew Marsh
Chairman & Chief Executive Officer at Entergy

Thank you.

Operator

Our next question comes from the line of Ryan Levine from Citi. Your line is now open.

Ryan Levine
Analyst at Smith Barney Citigroup

Good morning. I was hoping you could touch on how you may approach attracting data centers outside of Mississippi. You mentioned Arkansas and some other locations. Can you just provide some context or some color around regulatory attractiveness of those states on the comparison basis?

Rod West
Group President-Utility Operations at Entergy

Yeah. This is Rod again. And I think Kimberly alluded to it. The example in Mississippi, I think serves as a blueprint for other states. When you think about how we shaped both the legislation from the actual state, the contractual guarantees, if you will, from AWS, and the regulatory outcomes that facilitated our ability to meet AWS's needs, I think plays well. It would certainly focus around job creation and economic development from a stakeholder engagement standpoint, similar to the way that we did in Mississippi. I see that being very relevant in, say, Louisiana and Arkansas. Certainly, there's going to be an expectation regardless of where these data centers are cited that there's rate protection for the other customers in the service territory.

Notwithstanding any conversation around the green or the clean dynamics, we are going to serve that customer's needs and the attributes that are important to them. But here's the piece that I think becomes really important as we are engaging our regulators and our customer stakeholders. What Mississippi was able to do was to expedite the CCN approval process to help us build the infrastructure around transmission and generation to serve that load and also providing credit accretive, for instance, in Mississippi, allowing for cash CWIP during the construction of those facilities, allowing us to finance those projects and lower the overall cost for customers. If you think about those dimensions, the rest of the states are taking notice of the success in Mississippi from purely a competitive standpoint or trying to figure out how to replicate that -- those types of frameworks in their jurisdictions. But we think it's a blueprint that really projects well for other states.

Drew Marsh
Chairman & Chief Executive Officer at Entergy

Yeah. And I'll just add that given what Rod just outlined, our regulators and our communities are excited about these potential investments. They are large investments that are going to throw off a bunch of tax and hollers and provide some really good jobs. And we are -- areas in Central and Northern Mississippi, Northern Louisiana and in Arkansas, there's a lot of rural space out there that data centers can go to and those jobs are meaningful in those areas. So they're really excited about the opportunity for those investments and the economic activity that comes along with them. That's why, as Rod said, they're competing to figure out how they can serve these potential customers.

Ryan Levine
Analyst at Smith Barney Citigroup

Great to hear. And then on one other topic, just in terms of the Texas resiliency filing is giving your service territory, is there any opportunity to add a fire mitigation or wildfire mitigation risk management as a plan?

Drew Marsh
Chairman & Chief Executive Officer at Entergy

Yeah, that's a great question. And where we are along the coast in Texas, a lot of the resilience investments and the wildfire investment is going to be very similar and overlapping. So yes, that is going to be part of it. I'm sure that wildfire is going to be a part of the conversational legislature coming up early next year. And so we do anticipate that there will be some overlap there. I'll just mention, further away from the coast in Mississippi, Northern Louisiana, Arkansas, we are also thinking about wildfire mitigation investment there to complement all the things that we've already done to monitor and prepare, and respond to potential wildfires and all the community work that we're doing. But we realize that the next piece of that is investment to mitigate or eliminate wildfire risk. And so that conversation is ongoing with our stakeholders. And so we'll be looking to create opportunities to manage those risks for all of our stakeholders in the near future.

Ryan Levine
Analyst at Smith Barney Citigroup

Thanks for taking my questions.

Drew Marsh
Chairman & Chief Executive Officer at Entergy

Thank you.

Operator

[Operator Instructions] Our next question comes from Travis Miller from Morningstar. Your line is now open.

Travis Miller
Analyst at Morningstar

Thank you. Hello, everyone. One on the new industrial customers, including both data centers and the other industrial customers. What's the general split in terms of the capex between T&D and generation that you're anticipating?

Kimberly Fontan
Chief Financial Officer at Entergy

There's both there, Travis. The transmission certainly generally is less than the generation, but some of it is timing. When you think about we have long-term supply plans and where we may have had generation in a plan and perhaps there's some earlier execution of it in order to meet that demand. And as you know, we're in MISO, so transmission is planned through MISO as well. And so we also have long-range planning on the transmission. So I don't have the exact split and I know you can get with Bill and get that specifically. But generally, when you think about the data centers probably heavier weighted to generation into transmission.

Travis Miller
Analyst at Morningstar

Okay. And then do you anticipate on that generation piece doing an RFP or would you have first strikes to any kind of new-generation build?

Kimberly Fontan
Chief Financial Officer at Entergy

In Mississippi, the legislation enabled us to -- it effectively gave us CCN authority to build what was needed for that data center to meet their timeline. And so that doesn't require an RFP process. Some of our jurisdictions have RFPs and others don't. I think it comes down to a customer timeline and how you work with all your stakeholders to bring the customer on the timeline they're looking for and then what that requires to ensure that we are building strong appropriate assets in order to support the customers overall.

Travis Miller
Analyst at Morningstar

Okay. And then general, obviously the comments here you just made in general are for any industrial customer or more for data versus other chemical producers or factories, etcetera.

Kimberly Fontan
Chief Financial Officer at Entergy

Yeah, I mean the data center is [Speech Overlap] sorry, the data center is unique and then it's a larger customer coming in at one time on a faster timeline, but I would think about the planning principle for same for all of our customers.

Travis Miller
Analyst at Morningstar

Okay, great. Thanks so much. Appreciate it.

Drew Marsh
Chairman & Chief Executive Officer at Entergy

Absolutely. Thank you.

Operator

There are no further questions as of right now. I'd like to hand back the call over to Mr. Abler. Thank you.

Bill Abler
Vice President, Investor Relations at Entergy

Thank you. And thanks to everyone for participating this morning. Our quarterly report on Form 10-Q is due to the SEC on May 10th and provides more details and disclosures about our financial statements. Events that occur prior to the date of our 10-Q filing that provide additional evidence of conditions that existed at the date of the balance sheet would be reflected in our financial statements in accordance with generally accepted accounting principles. Also, as a reminder, we maintain a webpage as part of Entergy's Investor Relations website called regulatory and other Information, which provides key updates of regulatory proceedings and important milestones on our strategic execution. While some of this information may be considered material information, you should not rely exclusively on this page for all relevant company information. And this concludes our call. Thank you very much. [Operator Closing Remarks]

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  • Bill Abler
    Vice President, Investor Relations
  • Drew Marsh
    Chairman & Chief Executive Officer
  • Kimberly Fontan
    Chief Financial Officer
  • Rod West
    Group President-Utility Operations
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