Vertex Q1 2024 Earnings Call Transcript

There are 6 speakers on the call.

Operator

Good afternoon and welcome to the Data IO First Quarter 2024 Financial Results Conference Call. All participants will be in a listen only mode. After today's presentation, there will be an opportunity to ask questions. Please note this event is being recorded. I would now like to turn the conference over to Jordan Darrow, Investor Relations.

Operator

Please go ahead.

Speaker 1

You, operator, and welcome to the Data IO Corporation Q1 2024 Financial Results Conference Call. With me today are the company's President and CEO, Anthony Ambrose and Chief Financial Officer, Jerry Yang. Before we begin, I'd like to remind you that statements made in this conference call concerning future revenue, results from operations, financial position, markets, economic conditions, supply chain expectations, estimated impact of tax and other regulatory reform, product releases, new industry partnerships and any other statements that may be construed as a prediction of future performance or events are forward looking statements, which involve known and unknown risks, uncertainties and other factors, which may cause actual results to differ materially from those expressed or implied by such statements. These factors include uncertainties as to the impact in global and geopolitical events, international trade regulations, order levels for the company and the activity level of the automotive and semiconductor industry overall, ability to record revenues based on the timing of product deliveries and installations, market acceptance of new products, changes in economic conditions and market demand, part shortages, pricing and other activities by competitors and other risks, including those described from time to time in the company's filings on Forms 10 ks and 10 Q with the Securities and Exchange Commission, press releases and other communications.

Speaker 1

The accuracy and completeness of forward looking statements should not be unduly relied upon. Data IO is under no duty to update any forward looking statements. And now, I would like to turn over the call to Anthony Ambrose, President and CEO of Data IO.

Speaker 2

Thank you very much, Jordan. I'll begin my formal remarks by addressing our Q1 2024 financial and operational performance, and then I'll turn over the call to Jerry Yang for a more detailed look at the numbers. We had very strong bookings at $8,100,000 in the first quarter, closing deals in a strong sales funnel that we previously discussed in February's call. This is the highest bookings level in 11 quarters. We won 5 new customer locations in Q1, including a major programming center win in EMEA for a new site.

Speaker 2

Orders were back end loaded, and we closed with revenue at $6,100,000

Speaker 3

We have

Speaker 2

a very strong backlog in place, and we continue to expect a back end loaded year as most of this backlog will be recognized as revenue in the second half of twenty twenty four. Geographical rotation is also happening in our business. The Americas region has been very strong for us the past couple of years, and we're seeing a digestion of some of the CapEx wins for the past 2 years. Perhaps it's due to a change in demand for EVs in North America or perhaps it's just the fact that it's been so strong for the past 2 years. The present time, we're seeing EMEA pick up some of the slack as they've been stronger than they have been in the past couple of years, both in bookings and future opportunities.

Speaker 2

Asia continues to be strong as expected to remain strong for the rest of the year. We continue to see some interesting deals in SentriX and our units program continue to grow through our partners. However, the sales cycle remains long due design and programming requirements for those applications. When I talk to investors and others, I get a lot of questions about AI and how it impacts our business. And one of the emerging growth areas for AI is a so called edge AI.

Speaker 2

Now this is different from what you read about in chat GPT and some of the other things is edge AI is the deployment of artificial intelligence algorithms directly on devices or hardware at the edge of the network. And we're seeing significant adoption in several industries. And these include many of the industries that Data IO has been talking about as our key markets for a number of years. And some of them include ADAS or advanced driver assist systems, otherwise known as active safety or autonomous driving. A second area is IoT and smart devices.

Speaker 2

The third would be healthcare monitoring and wearables. 4th would be smart factory automation, which we've also talked about. And 5th would be retail analytics. As you know, we're a very big player in ADAS and a key supplier to Tier 1s and OEMs in the automotive industry. And again, we've been discussing that for some time.

Speaker 2

We've also talked about how industrial IoT is our 2nd largest market behind automotive, and that's also positively impacted by edge AI. So what is edge AI? It's all about bringing intelligence right to the edge, in the case of ADAS, right to your car. What this means is you get the data processing locally instead of having to send data to the cloud. This enables real time decision making, which obviously is very important for ADAS and autonomous driving.

Speaker 2

What this means for us is that the edge AI ensures that the processing power remains localized, and it requires the And that's going to get programmed in flash memory, most likely large NAND memory like eMMC or UFS that we've been talking about, again, on many of these calls. What this means for Data IO is that edge AI coming to cars and ADAS means there's more programming demand due to faster growth of the ADAS systems, the larger code sizes and the complexity of the device. During Q1, we won several systems for ADAS and continue to have a strong automotive funnel, which includes ADAS, electrification, instrument clusters, etcetera. In IoT Devices and Smart Home Systems, Edge AI is revolutionizing the Internet of Things landscape by embedding AI algorithms directly into IoT devices. Again, edge AI enables local data processing, reducing latency and enhancing privacy.

Speaker 2

From smart thermostats to security cameras, Edge AI empowers IoT devices to make intelligent decisions without constantly relying upon cloud services. Again, for Data IO, this drives increased data programming demand as well as the need for security to remain strong to maintain strong identity rather for these IoT devices. So again, as we talk about AI, I think edge AI has some very interesting applications for data eye programming demand, both in the data area and the security area. And finally, I'd like to talk about our 500th PSV system order, which we announced earlier this month in conjunction with the Apex trade show. This milestone is a testament to Data IO's continued innovation, investment and leadership in the programming technology for automotive, industrial and consumer markets and confirms the PSV family is the most successful automated programming system in the industry.

Speaker 2

Not only myself, but our team take great pride in this achievement and believe it sets the tone for our future with additional software innovations, security capabilities, enhancements to this platform in pursuit of more balanced profile from not only system sales, but also recurring revenue. And finally, to summarize from our last call, we talked about the focus being on continued disciplined growth as we target automotive, industrial and programming center markets worldwide. We continue to have investor outreach and our marketing initiatives include not only these calls, but also our fireside chats,

Operator

where we

Speaker 2

have an opportunity to go into a little bit more detail on a specific topic. Last month, we launched an interview in which I was hosted by Equity Research Analyst Dave Marsh of Singular Research on the topic of on shoring and near shoring. Our next fireside chat will be released later this month or early next month and will be hosted by Investor Manager and influencer Avi Fisher of Longcast Advisors. The topic will be Smart Factory Industrial Applications. And I imagine we'll talk a little bit more about Edge AI as well.

Speaker 2

Before I turn it over to Jerry for his commentary and review on our 2024 outlook, I'd like to remind our shareholders of record that as of March 18, we'll be holding our Annual Meeting on May 16 at our headquarters in Redmond, Washington. You should have already received all your materials around the 10 ks and proxy and voting information, and we look forward to receiving your vote and attendance at the meeting. With that, I'll pass it over to Jerry.

Speaker 4

Thank you, Anthony, and good day to everyone. I look forward to outlining and elaborating on our recent financial performance in more detail. My comments today will focus on key points of interest for the Q1 of 2024 and our perspectives looking forward. Data IO's financial condition remained strong at the end of Q1, with $12,000,000 in cash, slightly down $342,000 from the beginning of the quarter, which reflects the anticipated higher first quarter expenditures for public company costs, including audit, regulatory filings and NASDAQ fees, and annual incentive compensation disbursements. Our cash and working capital at 18,100,000 had a comparable decrease from 18,400,000 on December 31.

Speaker 4

Cash benefited from strong customer collections with accounts receivable at 4 dollars Days sales outstanding or DSO was at 59 days and past due receivable balances greater than 30 days remained very low at less than $30,000 at the end of Q1. Inventory at $6,400,000 increased from 5,900,000 from the beginning of the quarter on lower Q1 sales volume. The company continues to have no debt. Moving to the income statement, 1st quarter revenue at $6,100,000 was down 16% compared to 7 point $2,000,000 from the prior year period, reflecting lower backlog coming into the period plus timing of shipments from our new bookings. On a more favorable note, 1st quarter bookings were $8,100,000 UP 41% from the prior year on strong opportunity conversion in Europe and Asia.

Speaker 4

As a result, our backlog increased $1,700,000 in Q1 to $4,500,000 as of March 31, 2024. Gross margin for Q1 was 53%, down 5 percentage points from the 2023 prior year. This decline was driven by a combination of lower sales volume, higher mix of distributor channel sales and product mix. These unfavorable impacts were partially offset by ongoing initiatives to reduce material and operational costs, which we continue to realize. Excluding the impact of sales volume fluctuations, we expect gross margin to return to a more normalized mid to high 80% range as outlined in our 2024 outlook.

Speaker 4

Since I am leading the company's disciplined growth initiatives, I'd like to address the progress have made on operating expenses. Although we still reported net and adjusted EBITDA losses this quarter due to timing of shipments, our Q1 operating expenses were under 4,100,000 dollars down $53,000 or 1% from the prior year. As noted earlier, Q1 expenses are typically higher due to annual payments for public company costs and certain compensation related expenses, which are non recurring in future quarters this year. We anticipate with continued cost reductions associated with strong operational discipline and processes commencing in the second half of twenty twenty three that our performance will reflect lower spending going forward. Again, reiterating our 2024 outlook, we expect double digit bookings growth as Anthony highlighted earlier with system deployments to be weighted more in the second half of the year.

Speaker 4

As is customary, the timing of orders and subsequent deliveries will be reflected in our revenue recognition. On a full year basis, we expect gross margins to return to a target range as discussed earlier and fixed operating expenses to decrease, which will help offset variability from sales volume and compensation related increases this year. Overall, we remain very solid financially with a strong cash position, no debt and the ability to navigate market opportunities and any challenges that may emerge through the course of the year. That concludes my remarks for the Q1 of 2024. Operator, would you please restart the Q and A process?

Operator

The first question comes from David Marsh with Singular Research. Please go ahead.

Speaker 5

Hi, guys. Thanks for taking the question. You guys made a little tough one question here. So I'll just try to do one with

Speaker 2

Well, Dave, you're special, so we'll let you go for 2. How about that?

Speaker 5

Awesome. Awesome. Hey, thanks, Anthony. So, yes, I mean, mean, obviously, a little bit of a tough quarter for revenue realization, but I think very encouraging is the backlog growth. I just was hoping maybe you could provide a little bit of color.

Speaker 5

I noticed in the commentary, it seemed like you were indicating the backlog was going to kind of ship later in the year, a lot of it. So I was hoping you might be able to provide a little clarity in terms of backlog, in terms of geographies and then mix if it's just if it's all equivalent, if there's adapter stuff in there, if there's Concentrix in there, just kind of give us a sense of how to think about what goes into that backlog?

Speaker 2

Yes. So if you recall in our call in February, we said we had a very strong sales funnel and we were able to monetize that pretty much as expected in March with bookings, okay, which led to the highest bookings quarter we had in 11 quarters at $8,100,000 Those bookings included a large order for a customer opening up a new site. And pretty typically with customers opening up a new site, you can imagine a factory opening up and they have SMT lines that need 2 or 3 quarters advance notice, they get all their corporate ducks in a row and get the approval to go and then place the orders for delivery later in the year. So for that big order, that's going to start shipping in the second half, okay? We also got a lot of orders very late in the quarter that are going to ship and we just wanted to indicate that the balance of that's likely to ship in the second half, which is typically orders that we get ship the next quarter, we just want to call that out that it's going to be much more back end loaded than normal, so that you can build a good model and investors can build a good model.

Speaker 5

Great. Thanks. That's very helpful. And then just maybe you can just talk about I know you guys you set some time in overseas markets. And there's some you had some comments about it sounds like North America may be slowing down, but overseas might particularly.

Speaker 5

Maybe just give us a general market pulse kind of quick tour around the world?

Speaker 2

Yes. Pretty much what I said on the prepared remarks and in the release, North America, especially Mexico, has been very strong for us. A lot of capital purchases. And we're engaged with customers now. They need machine number 3 or machine number 4.

Speaker 2

And Q4, they said they need it in Q1. Q1, they said they need it in Q2. Here in Q2, they say, I might need it in Q2. I might need it in Q3. And it's really that they believe they need it.

Speaker 2

It's just their demand is not ramping as fast as they thought it would. I'm pretty confident we'll get the orders. I just don't think that's going to happen to be revenue again until the second half in North America. I was in Asia earlier in Q1 and we continue to have strength in our Asian markets, Korea, China was also in India. And they are just a different cycle.

Speaker 2

I think China was bad last year. Everyone had hopes for it to bounce back early in the year and it didn't. But it's been slowly coming back and I think they're very, very keen on their EV industry in China and we're a critical supplier to that industry. Automotive in the rest of Asia continues to be very strong for us as well. Europe had been weak for a while.

Speaker 2

And again, we see some strength in Europe. We had a very strong bookings quarter in Europe in Q1. A good sales funnel there, some very interesting opportunities. Again, we'll see the timing and how they realize. But I just wanted to share with investors that our overall plan for the year remains unchanged in terms of bookings.

Speaker 2

Just I think where we're going to get those bookings has probably changed a little bit in our thinking in the past 5 or 6

Speaker 3

months.

Operator

The next question comes from Kevin Gerrigan with Westpark Capital. Please go ahead.

Speaker 3

Yes. Hey, guys. Thanks for letting me ask a question. Going off David's question and your previous answers, So again, I know automotive is kind of your largest market for system orders and then it's followed by industrial and programming centers. And in your prepared markets, programming centers have had a strong start.

Speaker 3

So looking at the pipeline right now, can you give us some color on which end markets you think are going to be the strongest for orders in 2024? I mean, do you think programming centers may become orders or is it really just going to be automotive that's going to kind of drive the bookings growth?

Speaker 2

I think if I look at the funnel going forward, it looks a lot like our last several years of business, okay? For any one quarter, we can have a significant shift one way or another just based on the level of orders that we have and the markets into which those orders are represented. But in terms of the fundamental nature of the business, it continues to be automotive, industrial. And the point I wanted to make in my remarks is a lot of these things are connected by this edge AI theme. And I've done some research and discussion and talked to some folks on that.

Speaker 2

And I want to include that in the remarks, because I think that's a connecting thread there. And I know people are very excited about AI. They tend to think of it as chat GPT and some of the things that are going on. But I think a lot of it's going to be much more meat and potatoes around advanced driver assist systems, smart IoT, smart homes, factory automation, things like that. And the common connecting thread is more code, more programming, more security.

Speaker 2

And at the risk of colloquialism, that's more better for Data IO.

Speaker 3

Okay, perfect. Perfect. I appreciate that color. If I could, just a quick follow-up. You had noted in your prepared remarks that you're seeing some interesting deals for SentriX.

Speaker 3

I know last year you had a solar energy customer win that you had called out. Can you just expand a little bit on kind of what market some of these deals that you're seeing are coming from?

Speaker 2

Kind of the edge AI market that I just described at a high level, usually IoT, Kevin. A lot of interesting deals, There's a lot of pre sales effort, a lot of work that has to go into these, otherwise we'd probably have more. The unit growth continues to go up, but there are a couple of really interesting deals in the funnel. I'm hoping we can close them.

Operator

Thank you, ladies and gentlemen. This concludes our question and answer session. I would like to turn the conference back over to Anthony Ambrose for any closing remarks.

Speaker 2

Well, thank you very much, operator. I'd like to thank everyone for attending and the questions from our analysts. I'd also like again to remind everyone to please return your votes for the shareholder meeting in May. And with that, I'd like to close the call. Thank you very much.

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