LSI Industries Q3 2024 Earnings Call Transcript

There are 6 speakers on the call.

Operator

Welcome to the LSI Industries Fiscal 20 24 Third Quarter I will now turn the conference over to your host, Jim Gillece, Chief Financial Officer. You may begin.

Speaker 1

Welcome everyone and thank you for joining. We issued a press release before the market opened this morning detailing our fiscal 2024 Q3 results. In addition to this release, we also posted a conference call presentation in the Investor Relations section of our corporate website. Information contained in this presentation will be referenced throughout today's conference call, included are certain non GAAP measures for improved transparency of our operating results. A complete reconciliation of GAAP and non GAAP results is contained in our press release and 10 Q.

Speaker 1

Please note that management's commentary and responses to questions on today's conference call may include forward looking statements about our business outlook. Such statements involve risks and opportunities, and actual results could differ materially. I refer you to our Safe Harbor statement, which appears in this morning's press release for more details. Today's call will begin with remarks summarizing our fiscal Q3 results. At the conclusion of these prepared remarks, we will open the line for questions.

Speaker 1

With that, I'll turn the call over to LSI President and Chief Executive Officer, Jim Clark.

Speaker 2

Thank you, Jim, and good morning all. Thank you for joining us on today's call. It's truly hard to believe, but we're closing out our Q3 of fiscal year 2024 and well into our Q4 as we speak today. We are just over 2 months away from the end of our fiscal year 2024 and we've just begun developing our operating plans for 2025. Things have been busy and the LSI team continues to execute well.

Speaker 2

Working through the second half of the year, we are still facing some ongoing headwinds related to the current pause in our grocery vertical. Despite these challenges, total sales for the Q3 were down only 8%, while adjusted net income was up 14% on a year over year basis. These results demonstrate and underline the resiliency of the management team to operate the company with a continued focus on execution and earnings, while being fully prepared to capitalize on developing opportunities. As you are all well aware, LSI has developed and published our strategic plan to grow the company and its earnings to $800,000,000 in sales and 12.5% in EBITDA in 2028. This plan, which is known as our Fast Forward Plan, provides insight for our investors, employees and customers alike to understand our goals and the path we intend to take to reach that $800,000,000 milestone.

Speaker 2

Late last week, LSI announced the acquisition of EMI is based out of Tampa, Florida and they have a long established history as a fixture display and food equipment manufacturer in the grocery, convenience store and restaurant industries. EMI has been in business for more than 40 years and they serve a well established customer base ranging in size from regional brands with several 100 site locations to national and international brands operating thousands of sites. This acquisition fits well into our fast forward plan and we see a number of opportunities from additional goods and services that we can offer to our customers. A key component of our strategy is identifying developing a solution set for higher value verticals where our customers recognize the value of our products and services. This approach has served us well over the last several years and we've advanced our position in multiple verticals.

Speaker 2

The acquisition of EMI further expands and accelerates this strategy. I mentioned in previous calls, published information regarding the significant multiyear planned investment by C Stores, QSR and grocery industry participants as they target in store sales growth as a means to increase profitability. An improved image and brand enhances the consumer shopping experience. The acquisition of EMI positions LSI to exploit further growth opportunities in this multiyear investment cycle. As we've discussed before, company culture and highly experienced management team that plans to stay on board with EMI and LSI well into the future.

Speaker 2

In terms of commercial synergies, we see a customer base is about a third, a third and a third. In other words, about 1 third of the combined company customers are new to EMI, about 1 third of the combined customers are new to LSI and JSI and about 1 third of the customers are shared. As a result, we've identified substantial cross selling opportunities across our expanded customer base. In fact, in regards to common customers, we had one customer of a large quick serve chicken restaurant chain reach out to us already letting us know they do business with both LSI and EMI and they look forward to working with us as a combined entity. In his own words, he thought this was a great combination.

Speaker 2

Aside from these commercial opportunities, we see a number of operational and integration opportunities that will help EMI lower costs, improve production capabilities and product quality, while improving customer service and profits. We see combined technology capabilities and benefits we can offer our customers. We won't get to all these opportunities overnight, but working with the team at EMI, we are confident of our ability to work together, share capabilities and learn from each other. EMI and JSI today provide adjacent products to our combined customer base. And in fact, they make a perfect combination, whereas EMI and LSI help JSI in metal fabrication and design, and JSI will help EMI in refrigeration and cold fixture business.

Speaker 2

EMI and JSI both work in the millwork and refrigeration space and we believe the capabilities and purchasing power will complement each other. Over the next few quarters, we'll explore these opportunities, including having JSI work with EMI in the introduction of an R290 solution, allowing EMI to offer an environmentally friendly refrigerated solution to those customers who value this offering. In the full calendar year 2023, EMI reported total revenues of $87,000,000 and EBITDA performance of $5,500,000 EMI will be immediately accretive to LSI on an adjusted earnings per share basis. LSI has been working with EMI over the last few months as we underwent our full due diligence of the company. Our purchase price of $50,000,000 was fully funded from our existing revolver, leaving our net debt at approximately 1.3 times.

Speaker 2

We will add about 300 employees to LSI and 5 additional manufacturing locations located in Florida, Georgia, New Jersey, Rhode Island and Dallas, Texas. This acquisition helps make a meaningful step towards our $800,000,000 goal and provides an expanded set of products, services and solution in our targeted vertical markets. We have more work to do. Organic growth is an important piece of our plan and we continue our efforts in securing new customers and experimenting with new vertical markets. New product development and new product introductions remain on a healthy pace at LSI.

Speaker 2

Our outreach with our agents and partners remains a high priority. And in fact, next month, we will have our agent meeting here in Cincinnati It's currently slated to be one of our largest attention agent meetings ever. We have a lot of work to do and a lot of opportunities in front of us. We remain committed to reaching our $800,000,000 goal. We're excited about what the future offers.

Speaker 2

With that, I'll turn the call back over to Jim Gillece for a closer look at our financials. Jim?

Speaker 1

Thank you, Jim. In fiscal Q3, we continued our strong focus on execution and quality of earnings. For the quarter, LSI generated increased net income and earnings per share, margin rate expansion and strong cash flow, all while continuing to invest in the business with increased capital expenditures and other growth initiatives. Our adjusted gross margin rate improved 160 basis points versus last year, contributing to our improved net income and margin expansion. Adjusted EBITDA margin increased 80 basis points to 10.4%, while adjusted earnings per share increased $0.02 to $0.21 a share.

Speaker 1

Multiple factors drove the improvement with favorable mix, stable pricing, moderating material input costs and factory productivity all contributed. Results were achieved in a divergent market environment with vertical performance ranging from robust activity levels to the continued pause in grocery. In refueling C Store, for example, our recent large program wins for display solutions generated significant growth in the 3rd quarter as site release activity for these programs were initiated. Our site work ranged from product only to being the single source provider of comprehensive products and services. Many of these sites specify our unique forward throw technology and Archer perimeter lighting system.

Speaker 1

This differentiation creates increased revenue per site and strengthens our importance to customers. The adoption rate continues to increase as customers recognize the value these systems provide. The refueling C store outlook for the fiscal Q4 and entering fiscal 2025 is strong with high levels of site release activity for multiple programs expected to continue. Conversely, refueling C store growth was offset by continued disruption in the grocery demand levels, caused by the slow progress in the proposed merger of 2 large industry participants. We maintain ongoing with our grocery customers and plans for interior refresh programs remain, but with schedules deferred, pending more clarity on the merger.

Speaker 1

The underlying fundamentals of the grocery vertical remain solid and support multiyear investment in store refresh programs. For lighting, market performance is varied across verticals as well as project size. Overall, Lighting project quote activity for fiscal Q3 was above prior year levels. However, we're also experiencing the quote to order conversion period continuing to lengthen, particularly for larger projects. Small project activity remains stable across multiple verticals and we expect this trend to continue in the 4th quarter.

Speaker 1

Despite the lengthening quote to order conversion period, the Q3 book to bill ratio was above 1. Lighting adjusted operating income increased 11% for the quarter on 3% lower sales. The Lighting gross margin rate was 2 80 basis points above the prior year period, reflecting in part the healthy level of small project activity as well as stable pricing, moderating material input costs and factory product. Next, a few comments on cash and capital allocation. Free cash flow was $11,000,000 in the quarter with our TTM cash flow over $43,000,000 Solid cash flow generation reduced net debt to 9,000,000 dollars and lowered our ratio of adjusted EBITDA to net debt to 0.2 times as of March 31.

Speaker 1

We have been successful the last several years with our earn to invest model, generating increased earnings and cash flow, significantly reducing debt and positioning the business to execute on both organic and inorganic growth initiatives as identified in our Fast Forward strategic plan. Last week, we announced the acquisition of EMI Industries as part of that inorganic growth. We expect the combined cash flow of the 2 entities to significantly reduce outstanding debt over the next 2 years, supporting the cycle of investment to achieve our 20 28 targets. On a reporting basis, EMI will become part of LSI's Display Solutions segment beginning with a partial impact beginning in fiscal Q4. As part of our capital allocation and total return to shareholders, the company declared a regular cash dividend of $0.05 per share payable on May 14 to shareholders of record of May 6.

Speaker 1

In summary, our 3rd quarter performance reflects the diversity and durability of our business model. The last two quarters demonstrates LSI can achieve solid results while overcoming event driven interruptions to key markets. The addition of EMI will further strengthen our diversity of markets and customers and durability of performance. I'll now turn the call back to the moderator for the question and answer session.

Operator

Thank you. At this time, we will be conducting a question and answer session. And our first question comes from the line of Aaron Slikalia with Craig Hallum. Please proceed with your question.

Speaker 3

Yes. Good morning, Jim and Jim. Thanks for taking the questions. First for me, good to see the Lighting book to bill above 1 and activity on the quotation front that you talked about. Is that pretty broad based or any verticals kind of leading that?

Speaker 3

And then you also mentioned the order conversion period continues to lengthen. Can you just give a little bit more detail behind that on kind of gating factors that you're seeing there?

Speaker 2

Yes. Aaron, thanks for calling and thanks for the question. Yes, the lighting our whole lighting segment remains very kind of broad based across all the segments that we serve. Interestingly enough, we're only down a few points in terms of lighting. And remember, even lighting is impacted by the slowdown in grocery.

Speaker 2

So I think it goes to underlying some underlying growth opportunities there had we not had this gap created by grocery. And in terms of what was the second question, I'm sorry?

Speaker 1

Lengthening of the

Speaker 2

The lengthening of the

Speaker 3

Yes, just kind of the order conversion period, just gating factors or what's going on there?

Speaker 2

Yes. I mean, I think that we've been pointing it out for the better part of a year that we have a trend analysis that we do relative to incoming quotes from the time it takes from initial quote activity to order and we track that and that gives us kind of our cycle how long that quote to order conversion ratio takes. And we just noted that it continues to stay at an extended length and over certain periods of time, particularly in the beginning here of this year, we noticed that it even added a couple more days to it. It doesn't indicate anything as though we're losing business or anything, just that the time from initial inquiry to the time to close continues to kind of lengthen. And I would say that it's only days and that it's normalized now coming back to that extended period that we've had for the last couple quarters, but it's just another observation that it's lumpy.

Speaker 3

Right, right. Okay, thanks. And then, also good to see mention of the recent program awards in C store and QSR. Any new or large awards to note there? And then I know you've had some pilots for like refrigerated and C stores and broader pilots in QSR.

Speaker 3

Can you just give an update on how those have been going and if those are turning to program awards here in the near term?

Speaker 2

Yes. So from last quarter, we did have a couple of notable wins that we mentioned last quarter. And those are projects that are going to take us years to kind of work through. So big project wins there. I can't say that there was anything notable in this quarter.

Speaker 2

Although I will say much as you just pointed out, we have a number of test locations, we have a number of test products, everything from our R290 and refrigerated products right through some of our graphics and lighting products. So we have a number of systems out there that are in test and reconfiguration, but no notable big wins this quarter that I could underline.

Speaker 3

All right. That sounds good. Thanks for the color. I'll turn it over.

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Sameer Joshi with H. C. Wainwright. Please proceed with your question.

Speaker 4

Hey, good morning, Jim. Thanks for taking my questions. On the EMI integration, EMI has a lower EBITDA margin. So should we look at this improving because of leverage and just higher sales? Or do you expect to incorporate any like cost synergies, resources, common resources elimination?

Speaker 2

Hi, Sameer. Thanks for calling. Thanks for the question. I think the answer is all of the above. We you have most of the folks on this call have been following us long enough to know that we're fairly disciplined operators and we see a lot of opportunity to go in there, improvement side, not just on the commercial side, but a combination of all of those aspects we believe are going to create opportunities for us.

Speaker 2

They are as they sit right now a lower margin performing business, but we anticipate within 12 to 24 months we'll have made significant improvement on that. Working collaboratively with them to find ways of making them more efficient, everything from purchasing synergies to just operational and back of the house synergies and then obviously the commercial momentum that we hope to create. And I would underline that with saying that anything that we deal with from a commercial product standpoint, it doesn't happen in weeks or months. It usually takes quarters, sometimes a year, sometimes a year and a half on these large project wins. So I'm sure that we'll have some individual wins of the EMI, LSI combination, but I would expect the big wins to kick in 6, 9, 12, 18 months down the road.

Speaker 4

Understood. Just a quick follow-up on that. Are there possible technological synergies? I think you mentioned the EMI, JSI cooperation on our 2 90 solution. Are there more such technological synergies possible?

Speaker 2

Absolutely. And I'll just touch on that one. You just mentioned just a little bit more. Both EMI and JSI offer refrigerated solutions. They are not the same.

Speaker 2

They don't compete against each other necessarily, but the technology, the underlying technology, compressor technology, that type of thing, the refrigerant that they choose, all of those are common. We believe that EMI will benefit significantly from JSI's infrastructure in terms of testing and development. And we are definitely looking forward to exploiting that. They do not EMI does not currently have a R290 solution. So we'll be looking to work to introduce that.

Speaker 2

Again, it could take 3, 6, 9 months for us to get to a product that has that in there, but all opportunities we see in front of us.

Speaker 4

Understood. And then just switching just a little bit to the grocery merger that is in the works. I think there was recently submitted a bit updated divestiture plan, which calls for around 600 stores to be sold from this combined company if it happens. Does that present you with additional upside from just like restarting the process and then new branding and new signage for the 600 stores?

Speaker 2

Yes. Well, I mean, we believe that those almost 600 stores will need to be rebranded completely entirely, because they'll be coming from their legacy brand to an entirely new brand. So those would be new store opportunities. And we do believe that the other stores, depending on how the merger plays out and what the plans are from the principles, that all of those stores will still offer opportunities in terms of co branding, rebranding, reformats that type of thing with the two brands melded together. So you've got a completely new store opportunity, which would be 600 around 600 stores minimum.

Speaker 2

You've got the combined rebranding between the combination of the other two principles. And then you've got just kind of general updates to the stores that have been a little lagging as they've been working their way through this. And then lastly, the last component I would add to this is the other competitors are sitting on the sideline determining trying to figure out who they're going to be competing against. Are they going to be competing against a store that's going to be that's going to maintain its existing brand? Is it going to be rebranded as a part of 1 of the 2 stores or is it going to be sold off?

Speaker 2

And we think that that piece of business is going to be a boom too and a significant benefit to us. So we are looking at 3 bites potentially 3 bites of the apple depending on how things shake out.

Speaker 4

Sounds good. Thanks a lot for taking my questions and congratulations on all the progress.

Speaker 2

Thank you.

Operator

Thank you. And our next question comes from the line of Leanne Hayden with Canaccord Genuity. Please proceed with your question.

Speaker 5

Good morning, everyone. Thanks so much for taking my question and congrats on the progress this quarter. Just to start, are you continuing to see supply and permitting constraints in the marketplace, whether this is from transformers or permits or has there been an improvement or is this kind of part of a new reality we should come to terms with?

Speaker 2

Leanne, thanks for joining and thanks for the question. Yes, I mean, we've been talking about it now for an extended period of time, years about disruptions in supply chain and certain industries definitely being at the top of that list. Switchgear and Electrical Supplies still remain unsteady, but I would definitely categorize it as the new reality and the new state of business. I can't say that anything that's impacted our business is directly because of that, but it does help to explain some of that longer conversion cycle we talked about as customers go to launch a new project and they go and check on the realities of equipment and product delivery and that type of thing. I do think it helps to explain why we have that lengthening quote to conversion ratio.

Speaker 2

It's just to accommodate all of these extended lead times on some of these products. But I would also underline that I just think it's our new reality at least for the time being. And I think that over the next few quarters or maybe over the next few years that will just continue to come down as we work our way to pre-twenty 20 reality or normality in terms of delivery and that type of thing.

Speaker 5

Got it. Okay. That makes sense. And then just a second one for me. You have a lot of your own manufacturing facilities and then you acquired several manufacturing facilities.

Speaker 5

So can you please talk about any sort of wage inflation that could impact your financials going forward?

Speaker 2

I don't there isn't anything of note to speak of in terms of wage inflation. We have always been an employee first type company. We try to make sure that our starting wages and the wages we offer to our manufacturing employees in particular are competitive and are compelling enough for those folks to stay with us. I think that we have been on that path even prior to the inflationary period in wages that happened post COVID. So for us, I don't think there is any significant threat or any significant changes that we think we're going to have to accommodate.

Speaker 2

We've always tried to work it towards, like I said, kind of employee friendly. And the labor is not an exceedingly large part of our product cost. It's a component of it, but it's not the overwhelming component.

Speaker 5

Okay, understood. That's all for me. I'll jump back into queue. Thanks again.

Speaker 2

Thank you, Ian.

Operator

Thank you. And we have reached the end of the question and answer session. I'll now turn the call back over to President and CEO, Jim Clark for closing remarks.

Speaker 2

I just want to say thank you again for taking the time to dial in and continue to learn a little bit more about LSI. We're very excited about the addition of EMI onto the team. We're just beginning that process. We do have our normal integration team working to bring EMI into the fold. I don't think that you can expect to see anything happen overnight in terms of the synergies we think that we have there.

Speaker 2

But we do believe we have a good path forward and a lot to capture. We believe both companies will benefit significantly and more importantly, our customers will benefit. We are have circled around the idea of a one stop shop and specializing in certain verticals. And the EMI just allows us to continue to expand that value to our customers and we look forward to the benefit we're able to offer to our shareholders and our customers alike. So with that, I'll just say thank you for calling in, and I'll look forward to speaking to you on our next call.

Speaker 2

Take care.

Operator

And this concludes today's conference and you may disconnect your lines at this time. Thank you for your participation.

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