Gartner Q1 2024 Earnings Call Transcript

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April 30, 2024

There are 11 speakers on the call.

Operator

Good morning, everyone. Welcome to Gartner's First Quarter 2024 Earnings Call I'm David Cohen, SVP of Investor Relations. At this time, all participants are in a listen only mode. After comments by Gene Hall, Gartner's Chief Executive Officer and Craig Safian, Gardner's Chief Financial Officer, there will be a question and answer session. Please be advised that today's conference is being recorded.

Operator

This call will include a discussion of Q1 2024 financial results and Gartner's outlook for 2024 as disclosed in today's earnings release and earnings supplement, both posted to our website, investor. Gartner.com. On the call, unless stated otherwise, all references to EBITDA are for adjusted EBITDA, but the adjustments as described in our earnings release and supplement, all contract values and associated growth rates we discuss are based on 2024 foreign exchange rates. All growth rates in Gene's comments are FX neutral unless stated otherwise. All references to share counts are for fully diluted weighted average share counts unless stated otherwise.

Operator

Reconciliations for all non GAAP numbers we use are available in the Investor Relations section of the gartner.com website. As set forth in more detail in today's earnings release, certain statements made on this call may constitute forward looking statements. Forward looking statements can vary materially from actual results and are subject to a number of risks and uncertainties, including those contained in the company's 2023 annual report on Form 10 ks quarterly reports on Form 10 Q, as well as in other filings with the SEC. I encourage all of you to review the risk factors listed in these documents. Now, I'll turn the call over to Gartner's Chief Executive Officer, Gene Hall.

Speaker 1

Good morning and thanks for joining us today. Gartner remains resilient in a complex environment. In Q1, contract value grew high single digits. National results for this quarter were ahead of expectations. We delivered strong profitability and free cash flow, and we increased our guidance for 2024 on an FX neutral basis.

Speaker 1

The world continues to experience broad geopolitical and economic uncertainty. Higher interest rates and an uncertain outlook continue to affect banks. Federal and local governments are struggling with shifting priorities. Inflation remains challenging for companies in many sectors such as healthcare. Supply chains continue to be strained.

Speaker 1

We continue to see big shifts in where people work, which is affecting the real estate sector. Cybersecurity continues to be a global and universal threat. And enterprise leaders are just beginning to understand how to leverage artificial intelligence in their organizations. Enterprise leaders and their teams know they need help and I know Gartner is the best source for that help. We provide the insights, tools and advice to drive smart decisions and achieve stronger performance on their mission critical priorities.

Speaker 1

Our insights often make the difference between success and failure for the leaders we work with and the enterprises they serve. Gartner guides the leaders who shape the world. Research continues to be our largest and most profitable segment. Our Research business serves enterprises across all major functions in every industry and every geography. Our market opportunity is fast.

Speaker 1

We deliver unparalleled value to our clients, whether they're thriving, struggling or anywhere in between. In Q1, our clients experienced more challenging macroeconomic conditions, which led to a tougher selling environment. Because of the incredible value we deliver, contract value in our enterprise functional leader business grew 10%. Our tech vendor clients continue to be affected by sizable layoffs as well as reductions and shifts in venture capital investments. In addition, we had higher than normal levels of tech vendor contracts up for renewal in Q1 as expected.

Speaker 1

We guided clients through a wide range of challenging topics, including cybersecurity, supply chain optimization, data analytics, leader and manager development, managing emerging risks, cost optimization and more. Artificial intelligence was a topic with a high level of interest across every business function we serve. Gartner serves executives and their teams through distinct sales channels. Global Technology Sales or GTS serves leaders and their teams within IT. GTS also serves leaders at technology vendors, including CEOs, Chief Marketing Officers and Senior Product Leaders.

Speaker 1

GTS contract value grew 5%. GTS contract value with enterprise function leaders grew at high single digits. Global Business Sales or GBS serves leaders of their teams beyond IT. This includes HR, supply chain, finance, marketing, legal, sales, and more. JBS contract value grew 12%.

Speaker 1

Gartner Conferences deliver valuable insights to a highly engaged audience. We had a great start to the year, including the launch of 2 new conferences. The outlook for conferences remains strong. Gartner Consulting is an extension of Gartner Research. Consulting helps clients execute their most strategic initiatives through deeper project based work.

Speaker 1

Consulting is an important complement to our IT Research business. Consulting revenue grew 7%. Labor based revenue was up 13%. We drove a strong performance in contract optimization against a tough compare. People are at the heart of our business.

Speaker 1

I just returned from our sales recognition events where I spent time with some of our top performers. Our sales teams are enthusiastic about our prospects for growth in 2024. They love Gartner's strategy, culture and ability to innovate. Gartner is a place where our associates build lifelong careers in sales and beyond. Looking ahead, we updated our guidance for the stronger dollar and increased revenue, EBITDA, EPS and free cash flow on an FX neutral basis.

Speaker 1

In closing, Gartner delivered financial results ahead of expectations and 10% contract value growth enterprise function leaders. Partner is well positioned for contract value growth to accelerate as we move through the year. Our client value proposition and addressable market opportunity will allow us to drive long term sustained double digit revenue growth. We will continue to create value for our shareholders by providing actionable objective insight to our clients, prudently investing for future growth and returning capital to our shareholders through our share repurchase program. We expect margins will expand modestly over time and will continue to generate significant free cash flow well in excess of net income.

Speaker 1

All of this and more positions us to continue our sustained record of success far into the future. With that, I'll hand the call over to our Chief Financial Officer, Greg Sapien.

Operator

Thank you, Gene, and good morning. 1st quarter financial results were better than planned with particular strength in profitability and free cash flow. We remain well positioned for the global CV growth rate to accelerate from the 1st or second quarter of this year. We are increasing our revenue, profit and free cash flow guidance on an operating basis and updating for the stronger U. S.

Operator

Dollar. We have a lot of capacity for share repurchases and remain eager to buy back stock opportunistically. 1st quarter revenue was $1,500,000,000 up 5% year over year as reported and FX neutral. In addition, total contribution margin was 69%, about in line with last year. EBITDA was $382,000,000 ahead of our guidance and up modestly from Q1 2023.

Operator

Adjusted EPS was $2.93 up 2% from Q1 of last year and free cash flow was $166,000,000 Research revenue in the first quarter grew 4% year over year as reported and on an FX neutral basis. Subscription revenue grew 6% FX neutral. Non subscription revenue was similar to Q4 2023 following changes we made during the Q4, which we discussed in February. 1st quarter research contribution margin was 74%, consistent with last year. Contract value or CV was $4,900,000,000 at the end of the Q1, up 7% versus the prior year and down about $10,000,000 from the Q4 of 2023.

Operator

The NCVI results reflect the higher than normal level of tech vendor contracts up for renewal which we discussed in February. In addition, Q1 is our seasonally smallest quarter for new business. CV from enterprise function leaders across GTS and GBS grew 10%. CV growth is FX neutral. CV growth outside of our tech vendor client base was broad based across practices, industry sectors, company sizes and geographic regions.

Operator

Across our combined practices, the majority of the industry sectors grew a double digit or high single digit rates led by the energy, manufacturing and public sectors. CV grew double digit or high single digit rates across all enterprise sizes except small, which was about flat and has the largest tech vendor mix. We also drove double digit or high single digit growth in the majority of our top 10 countries. Global Technology sales contract value was $3,800,000,000 at the end of the Q1, up 5% versus the prior year. GTS Enterprise Leaders CV increased high single digits.

Operator

Tech vendor CV was down slightly year over year. GTS CV was $22,000,000 lower than the 4th quarter. Wallet retention for GTS was 101% for the quarter, which compares to 104% in the prior year. Enterprise leader wallet retention was consistent with historical levels. As expected, tech vendors were the key driver of the change year over year.

Operator

GTS new business was 1% lower than last year even as enterprise leader in new business increased year over year. GTS quota bearing headcount was down 2% year over year. We continue to expect mid single digit QBH growth by the end of the year. The near term hiring focus is in the enterprise leader portion of the business. Our regular full set of GTS metrics can be found in our earnings supplement.

Operator

Global business sales contract value was $1,100,000,000 at the end of the first quarter, up 12% year over year. All of our GBS practices grew at double digit or high single digit rates other than sales, which grew mid single digits. Growth was led by finance, legal and supply chain. GBS CV increased $12,000,000 from the 4th quarter, while retention for GBS was 107% for the quarter, which compares to 110% in the prior year. GBS new business was up 7% compared to last year.

Operator

GBS quota bearing headcount was also up 7% year over year. As with GTS, our regular full set of GBS metrics can be found in our earnings supplement. Conferences revenue for the Q1 was $70,000,000 modestly ahead of our expectations during a seasonally small period. We had 2 successful launches in the quarter, our CFO and Finance Executive Conference in Australia and our Data and Analytics Summit in Brazil. Contribution margin in the quarter was 33%, consistent with typical seasonality and reflecting investments for future growth.

Operator

We held 12 destination conferences in the quarter. 1st quarter consulting revenues increased by 6% year over year to $135,000,000 On an FX neutral basis, revenues were up 7%. Consulting contribution margin was 40% in the 1st quarter. Labor based revenues were $109,000,000 up 12% versus Q1 of last year's reported and 13% on an FX neutral basis. Backlog at March 31 was $188,000,000 increasing 17% year over year on an FX neutral basis with continued booking strength.

Operator

Our contract optimization business is highly variable. We delivered $26,000,000 of revenue in the quarter against a tough prior year compare. Consolidated cost of services increased 6% year over year in the Q1 as reported and 5% on an FX neutral basis. The biggest driver of the increase was higher compensation costs. SG and A increased 5% year over year in the Q1 as reported and on an FX neutral basis.

Operator

SG and A increased in the quarter as a result of headcount growth and higher compensation costs. EBITDA for the Q1 was $382,000,000 up modestly from last year. 1st quarter strength compared to our guidance reflected modest revenue upside, effective expense management and a prudent approach to our initial guidance. Depreciation in the quarter of $26,000,000 was up about 10% compared to 2023. Net interest expense excluding deferred financing costs in the quarter was $18,000,000 This is favorable by $9,000,000 versus the Q1 of 2023 due to higher interest income on our cash balances.

Operator

The modest floating rate debt we have is fully hedged through the Q3 of 2025. The Q1 adjusted tax rate which we use for the calculation of adjusted net income was 20% for the quarter. The tax rate for the items used to adjust net income was 25% for the quarter. Adjusted EPS in Q1 was $2.93 up 2% compared with last year. We had 79,000,000 shares outstanding in the Q1.

Operator

This is a reduction of close to 1,000,000 shares or about 2% year over year. We exited the Q1 with about 79,000,000 shares on an unweighted basis. Operating cash flow for the quarter was $189,000,000 up 15% compared to last year. CapEx for the quarter was $23,000,000 up modestly year over year. Free cash flow for the quarter was $166,000,000 Free cash flow as a percent of revenue on a rolling 4 quarter basis was 18% of revenue and 72% of EBITDA.

Operator

Free cash flow conversion from GAAP net income was 135%. Our free cash flow conversion is generally higher when CV growth is accelerating. At the end of the Q1, we had about $1,200,000,000 of cash. Our March 31 debt balance was about $2,500,000,000 During the quarter, we closed on a new 5 year $1,000,000,000 unsecured revolving credit facility. Outstanding borrowings from the existing credit agreement were rolled over into the new unsecured revolver.

Operator

The amount drawn remains fully hedged. Our capital structure is now 100 percent unsecured. After Moody's upgraded our credit in April, we now have 3 investment grade ratings from Fitch, S and P and Moody's. Our reported gross debt to trailing 12 month EBITDA was under 2 times. Our expected free cash flow generation, available revolver and excess cash remaining on the balance sheet provide ample liquidity to deliver on our capital allocation strategy of share repurchases and strategic tuck in M and A.

Operator

Our balance sheet is very strong with $1,900,000,000 of liquidity, low levels of leverage and effectively fixed interest rates. We repurchased $225,000,000 of our stock during the Q1. We expect the Board will continue to refresh the repurchase authorization as needed going forward. At the end of March, we had about $830,000,000 authorized for repurchases. As we continue to repurchase shares, our capital base will shrink.

Operator

Over time, this is accretive to earnings per share and combined with growing profits also delivers increasing returns on invested capital. We are raising our full year guidance on an FX neutral basis to reflect Q1 performance. The dollar has gotten stronger since we reported in February, which is also incorporated into the guidance. For research, we continue to innovate and provide a very compelling value proposition for clients and prospects. Executives and their teams face uncertainty and challenges and they recognize how Gartner can help regardless of the economic environment.

Operator

For research revenue, based on Q1 results and our outlook for the balance of the year, our guidance on an FX neutral basis is unchanged. The guidance also reflects the CV growth rate reaccelerating this year. New business strength and improvements in retention would lead to upside to our guidance. And Research subscription revenue growth will likely lag CV growth reacceleration by about a quarter or 2 on an FX neutral basis. The non subscription revenue outlook continues to reflect the shift to higher quality traffic sources we discussed last quarter.

Operator

We saw pricing stabilizing over the past few months. An improvement in pricing would represent upside to the guidance. The Q1 for conferences is seasonally small. We continue to expect strong performance for the full year. We expect similar seasonality to what we saw in 2023 with Q4 the largest quarter followed by Q2.

Operator

For consulting, we continue to see demand on our labor based services in areas like digital transformation and cost optimization. Contract optimization has had several very strong years and is highly variable. We've incorporated a prudent outlook for this part of the segment. For consolidated expenses, we are investing for future growth even as we have taken a balanced view of the timing of revenue flowing into the P and L. We recommend thinking about expenses sequentially with notable seasonality driven by the conferences calendar and merit increases.

Operator

As a reminder, about 1 third of our revenue and operating expenses are denominated in currencies other than U. S. Dollar. With the strengthening dollar, we now expect FX neutral growth to be higher than reported growth by about 0.5 point for revenue and around a full point for EBITDA for the full year. Our updated 2024 guidance is as follows.

Operator

We expect research revenue of at least $5,115,000,000 which is FX neutral growth of about 5%. 1st quarter results were about in line with our expectations. We updated for the stronger dollar. We expect conferences revenue of at least $560,000,000 which is FX neutral growth of about 11%. We expect consulting revenue of at least $525,000,000 which is growth of about 3% FX neutral.

Operator

The result is an outlook for consolidated revenue of at least $6,200,000,000 which is FX neutral growth of 5%. We now expect full year EBITDA to at least $1,455,000,000 up $35,000,000 from our prior guidance before the effect of stronger dollar. We expect typical operating expense seasonality to continue through the rest of the year. We now expect 2024 adjusted EPS of at least 10 20 a conversion from GAAP net income of 139%. Our guidance is based on 79 1,000,000 fully diluted weighted average shares outstanding, which reflects the repurchases made through the end of March.

Operator

And finally for the Q2, we expect adjusted EBITDA of at least $390,000,000 Our financial performance started the year ahead of our plan despite continuing global macro uncertainty and a dynamic tech vendor market. CV grew high single digits in the quarter and we expect CV growth to reaccelerate from the 1st or second quarter of this year. Revenue and EBITDA performance exceeded our expectations. We increased our operating guidance and incorporated the stronger U. S.

Operator

Dollar into the outlook. Free cash flow was strong in the quarter and we increased the guidance for the full year. We repurchased about $225,000,000 in stock year to date through March and remain eager to return excess capital to our shareholders. We will continue to be price sensitive, opportunistic and disciplined. Looking out over the medium term, our financial model and expectations are unchanged.

Operator

With 12% to 16% Research CV growth, we will deliver double digit revenue growth. With gross margin expansion, sales costs growing about in line with CV growth and G and A leverage, we will expand EBITDA margins modestly over time. We can grow free cash flow at least as fast as EBITDA because of our modest CapEx needs and the benefits of our clients paying us upfront. And we'll continue to deploy our capital on share repurchases which will lower the share count over time and on strategic value enhancing tuck in M and A. With that, I'll turn the call back over to the operator and we'll be happy to take your questions.

Operator

Operator?

Speaker 2

Thank And our first question will come from Jeff Meuler from Baird. Your line is now open. Please check that your line is not on mute.

Operator

Hello? Can you hear me?

Speaker 2

Yes, sir. We can hear you now.

Speaker 3

Yes. Thank you. Sorry about that. I was hoping you could get more perspective on GTS new business sold trends. And I'm obviously keying in on the year over year being a bit weaker this quarter than last.

Speaker 3

And I think that was one of the factors that you were pointing to for confidence in the CV reacceleration during 2024. So just any perspective? Did it soften at all later in the quarter? Was it consistent with your plan? Thanks.

Speaker 3

Hey, good morning, Jeff. It's Craig. Thank you for the question. On the new business side, again, you need to really differentiate between what we're seeing from a tech vendor perspective and what we're seeing on the enterprise function leader portion of the GTS business. And what we saw was GTS new business for enterprise function leaders was up low single digits year over year in the quarter.

Speaker 3

And it was down a little bit year over year on the tech vendor side. And so those two dynamics are really what hit us in the Q1. I would say just on the tech vendor side, and I'm sure we'll talk about this quite a bit as we work through the questions, that we highlighted in February that we had a larger than normal amount of contracts coming up for renewal on the tech vendor side. Those were typically 2 or 3 year deals and so they hadn't been touched in a few years. And obviously, the tech market is very different today than it was a few years ago.

Speaker 3

And generally what we're seeing, particularly with our medium to larger size tech clients is they are staying with us, but there is some still some recalibration. And what that means is there's less new business than normal on those renewals. Out over the medium term and long term, we expect our tech vendor business to be a 12% to 16% grower, But we're still and again, you guys can read the headlines as well as we can, we're still in a pretty challenging tech vendor end market. Gina, do you want to add? Yes.

Speaker 3

The only thing I'd add is that our sales to new logos in tech vendors has been strong. And so what Craig reflected is that it's not the new logo that's actually been strong. It's the when we have a renewal, how many additional seats they buy. Okay. And then just on retention, obviously, we have your publicly reported metrics and just want to recognize that you had previously called out the outsized renewals for tech vendor this quarter.

Speaker 3

So the question I guess is like if I if you isolate just the business that comes up for renewal in a period, is the are the renewal rates now largely stable kind of like quarter to quarter at this point and you just needed to get through the tail of those renewals? I'm just trying to, I guess, just figure out how stable it is on what's coming up for renewal. Yes. I think Jeff, it's a great question. We have seen some stability in the retention rates.

Speaker 3

And generally, if you look at our NCBI in any given quarter, it's a combination of what did we renew and how much new business we sold. And with Q1 being a seasonally very small new business quarter, historically, it's always been that way, coupled with the disproportionate amount of tech vendor contracts we had coming up for renewal. The reason we highlighted that in February is because that makes for a tough math, if you will, on NCVI in a given quarter. We are seeing retention rates stabilize. We do see strong pipeline across the board in both GTS and GBS.

Speaker 3

And so again, we firmly believe that contract value growth is going to reaccelerate this year as we indicated in our prepared remarks. And stable retention rates will certainly be an ingredient in that reacceleration. Got it. Thank you.

Speaker 2

Thank you. And our next question will come from Toni Kaplan from Morgan Stanley. Your line is open.

Speaker 4

Hey, thanks so much. I was hoping you could just comment on that, the first part of the last question, the recalibration and seats as contracts come up for renewal. Are you seeing the large enterprise clients reducing seats? Or was that more of a comment around the tech vendor? And basically, if you could give sort of an outlook on how you think the tech vendor trends go from here and what percent of business is related TechVendor at this point?

Speaker 4

You probably gave it. I just missed it.

Speaker 3

Hey, Tony. It's Gene. There's a couple of things going on. One is in the small end of the market, the companies that got funding 2 or 3 years ago that are now coming for renewal, many of those companies are having difficulty getting funding for 2 reasons. 1 is that the interest rates are higher.

Speaker 3

The second is there's been a big shift to where venture capitalists want to fund AI, not surprisingly AI startups compared to the software starts they were funding 2 years ago. And so we're seeing kind of as those come up for renewal, the ones that aren't getting funding don't do as well and that's finding new logos as well as we're selling to the AI startups. And then you have the large end of the market, we have different front going on, where they're laying off tens of thousands of people. And so they're it's a tougher selling environment than it has been in the past. As Craig mentioned, Q1 is our worst quarter in terms of just we look at the SKU of renewals in terms of the largest number of those renewals coming up.

Speaker 3

And so we expect to get better through the year. And then Tony, just for context, the tech vendor CV is a little less than 25% of total CV. It's pretty consistent with where we've been over the last several quarters.

Speaker 4

Yes. Okay, great. And then wanted to ask on AI, You've said in the past that it hasn't generated extra demand and that it's just sort of another topic that clients are interested in. I guess why shouldn't you see increased demand for additional seats across both GTS and GBS? It seems like it's a topic that more people within the organization would probably need to learn more about.

Speaker 4

And so and then maybe any ways you've been able to utilize AI for efficiency or selling purposes?

Speaker 3

So Tony, there's a broad level of interest in AI across each of our functional areas. So whether it's IT, marketing, sales, finance, legal, every single function has a very high interest in AI. And we have a large research team that is focused on making sure we understand the applications in AI in each of those functional areas. And so we have a large installed base of existing clients. Most of those clients are the existing clients are looking at our AI research and using it.

Speaker 3

When we sell a new client, they also that's a very hot topic. They want to talk to us about it and it is a good reason to close a sale. If I contrast it though like 2 years ago, inviting the cloud computing that was AI wasn't the hot topic, cloud computing was. And so the topic has shifted and it's a very high level of interest just as cloud computing was 2 or 3 years ago. And so it's not like that we didn't have demand, this all of a sudden increased demand.

Speaker 3

It's kind of has kind of taken the place of things that were in the past. And again, as we and the other thing I'd say is companies are now just kind of trying to figure out whether it's relevant, what the trade offs are, what the cost is. And I think that this could gather momentum over time as they sort these kinds of things out. Out. It's good for us no matter how you look at it, but it's not like we had no business and this is going to like do a step change.

Speaker 3

It's more like, it's substitute other things that we were helping with. Again, I think about the margin over time, it will be a net plus. And with regard to internal usage, we have a number of internal uses that we are using mainly with data analytics, having very sophisticated like machine learning algorithms and neural networks in terms of understanding our business. That's one of the big applications we have for it.

Speaker 4

Super. Thanks.

Speaker 2

Thank you. Our next question comes from Heather Balsky from Bank of America. Your line is now open.

Speaker 5

Hi, thank you for taking my question. I'd love to touch on your I guess I'll call it guidance that you still think CV should start to accelerate either after this quarter or after next quarter. It sounds like the selling environment got tougher. We're still seeing layoffs in the tech industry. I'm just curious what you're seeing right now that still gives you confidence that this is the year we see the inflection?

Speaker 5

And also just kind of was there anything in the Q1 that kind of was a positive sign in your view realizing that 1Q is kind of a lighter quarter generally in your business, but just help us get the conviction you have in the inflection? Thanks.

Speaker 3

Heather, let me start. So, our in Q1, our enterprise function leaders CV grew 10%. So, it was a little tougher economic environment, decisions got pushed a little bit. We still grew 10% in that kind of environment. So second thing is we talked with the tech sector, we had a particularly we had a lot more renewals from 2 or 3 years ago that's coming up then we see later in the year.

Speaker 3

And the third thing is, if we look at our go forward sales pipeline, our go forward sales pipeline is very robust. And so those are the kinds of things that give us confidence that the outlook we gave is very accurate. Well, and I think and just to add to that, Heather, our sales force continues to come up the 10 year curve. And so every day, they're a little bit more experienced and a little bit more tenured and that gives us confidence around the reacceleration. And I think also we are a learning company that are very agile.

Speaker 3

And even in a tougher environment, we are always working for ways to perform better in that tougher environment. And we learned a lot from prior dislocations. We've learned a lot even from the last couple of quarters and we were applying those things and we believe that actually a lot of positive impact and help fuel that reacceleration as well.

Speaker 5

Thank you. And another question we got, you talked about the heavy renewals in the quarter and you'd warned us about that. As you think about the renewals coming from the, I guess, the sort of peak period for the tech vendor space, How does the rest of the year look in terms of the renewals coming up?

Speaker 3

Yes. I mean, it's so obviously, it's got to add up to 100% over the course of the year. So we were a little over weighted in the Q1 on those tech vendor renewals and it's much more even over the balance of the year. And again, that's another reason that gives us confidence. So if you look at the way the renewals work and the way our new business ramps over the course of the year, that's what gives us confidence that either coming off of Q1 or Q2, you will see the reacceleration in total contract value growth rate.

Speaker 5

Great. Thank you.

Speaker 2

Thank you. And our next question will come from Andrew Nicholas from William Blair. Your line is open.

Speaker 6

Hi, good morning. Thanks for taking my questions. I wanted to first ask on operating expenses, pretty significant upside to your adjusted EBITDA outlook on Q1. Just wondering where the major drivers were relative to your expectations in terms of spend, any areas in particular where you're getting a bit more efficiency than you had expected and maybe what that means for operating expenses going through the rest of this year?

Speaker 3

Yes, Andrew, good morning. I'd say the OpEx favorability was pretty broad based. It wasn't any one particular area where we harvested significant savings. I would say the FX rate actually helped a little bit there too. It obviously hurts on revenue, but helps on expenses.

Speaker 3

And so we have dialed in the savings in the areas that we saw in Q1. Some of that's timing, some of that we're going to catch up on and some of that is real savings. And so the new guidance reflects what we learned from Q1 from an OpEx perspective. But don't overlook the foreign exchange. As we talked about, the dollar has strengthened quite a bit and about a third of our operating expenses are denominated in currencies outside of the U.

Speaker 3

S. Dollar. And so those pretty large movements can actually impact the reported OpEx and revenue pretty significantly. But again, all reflected now in the new guide.

Speaker 6

Got it. That's helpful. And then I wanted to ask about conferences. I think you said you added 2 new conferences in the Q1. Can you just kind of talk about where you sit in terms of your plans on the conference build out front?

Speaker 6

I know you had hoped to have at some point in the future a conference in every single region for every single kind of GBS and GTS seat. So if you could just kind of update us on that progress and the momentum in building out that plan?

Speaker 3

Yes. And so that is still the plan, right? Strategy is for us to have a destination conference for every major constituency that we serve role that we serve on every major region or geography in which we operate. And I think the 2 launches in the Q1, while small, are indicative of that. And so, we've expanded our finance, our CFO conferences to Australia in the Q1, again, sort of building out that portfolio and we brought back a data and analytics summit in Brazil, again, because we've got a large business in Brazil and there's demand for data and analytics.

Speaker 3

This year or in 2024, we're going from 47 conferences last year to 51 in 2024. I would expect us to have a similar sort of build over the next several years as we continue to build out the conferences portfolio to support the research business. The other thing we're doing Andrew too is for some of the existing conferences, we're moving to larger venues so that we actually can accommodate the incremental demand that we're seeing, which is substantial.

Speaker 6

Thank you very much.

Speaker 2

Thank you. And our next question will come from Josh Chan from UBS. Your line is open.

Speaker 7

Hi, good morning, Jean and Craig. Thanks for taking my questions. Is there a way to estimate how much the elevated renewals in Q1 impacted your CV growth? And I guess relatedly, absent this elevated renewal impact in Q2, how should we think about the NCBI in Q2 as compared to last year, which should theoretically be a pretty easy comparison, I think?

Speaker 3

Thanks. Good morning, Josh. So again, I think the combination as we talked about of more than normal contracts coming up for renewal against our smallest new business quarter is really and the continued tech vendor challenges is really the story around the Q1, and CVI and the Q1 CV growth. As you think about moving through the year, the simple way that I think about whether CV growth accelerates or not is just comparing an expectation to your point on what the quarter NICFI is going to be in this year compared to what the NICFI was last year. And so roughly speaking, last year in Q2, we did around $40,000,000 worth of NCBI across GTS and GBS.

Speaker 3

For the contract value growth to reaccelerate in Q2, we'd have to do modestly more than that on a dollar basis year over year. And again, if you look at the same number for Q3, where I think Q3 of last year, we did order of magnitude around $100,000,000 of NCVI in the 3rd quarter. We'd have to do modestly more than that in the Q3 of 2024 to continue the reacceleration. And so again, as we've talked about sort of when we think the reacceleration is going to happen, clearly the renewal mix or the contracts coming up for renewal mix coupled with our new business, normal expectations, coupled with looking at our pipeline, looking at conversion rates, looking at pipeline velocity, etcetera, that's what gives us confidence that we will see a reacceleration coming off of either the Q1 or the Q2 number.

Speaker 7

Great. Thanks

Speaker 8

for the color, Craig.

Speaker 7

And I guess, on my follow-up on your sales force tenure, how do you think about the idea of the tenure improving into a time when the environment is not yet fully robust? Do you have to work harder on retaining so that you can fully take advantage of the sales force when the environment does cooperate? How you think about that?

Speaker 3

Yes, it's a great question. So obviously, when we talk about average productivity and what we've seen historically, those are generally measured in more normal operating environment. And so clearly, when it's more challenging from an operating environment perspective, we can see some of the productivity measures or at least the final output productivity measures, a little more muted. We also measure the inputs that go into sales. And so how many opportunities are being added?

Speaker 3

How quickly are those things advancing through the pipeline? How often are salespeople and service people interacting with their clients? How many prospects are we getting to webinars or to conferences and the things like that. So there are other measures beyond just the pure NCBI measure, which is sort of the ultimate measure, But there are other measures that we can look at that give us confidence that our sellers are getting more at that and more experience and are coming up a 10 year curve. And then when the economy does stabilize or perhaps even improve, we should be able to see the benefits from that.

Speaker 7

Great. Thank you for the color and thanks for the time.

Speaker 2

Thank you. Our next question comes from Manav Patnaik from Barclays. Your line is open.

Speaker 7

Thank you. Good morning. Craig, in your prepared remarks, you made a comment around pricing stabilized, but it could be upside to guidance if it improves. So I was just hoping you could just give a little bit more detail on what the pricing, I guess, year over year growth is today versus historical? And were you implying that you guys might be raising prices here again?

Speaker 3

Hey, good morning, Manav. Just for clarity's sake, the pricing stabilization comment was really specifically about the non subscription part of our research business. And so as you recall, coming out of last year, on our February call, we talked a lot about focusing on higher quality traffic. And by doing that over the medium to long term, we would expect to see improvements in pricing. And so what we saw in the Q1 is some stabilization to pricing, which again we view as positive.

Speaker 3

And as we continue to focus on that higher quality traffic, if it does convert into better pricing there, that would reflect upside to the existing guidance. And the pricing in our subscription business has been completely stable. So there's been no issue there.

Speaker 7

Okay, got it. And then just one quick one. I think the enterprise count is down about 4% year over year. I'm guessing a lot of that was the tech vendor challenges you talked about. But just in context of your CV accelerations you're expecting, can you just remind us again of your hiring plans for the quota bearing sales force?

Speaker 3

Yes, sure Manav. Happy to provide that color. So on the enterprise count, your hypothesis is spot on. It's more and Jean alluded to this earlier in our prepared remarks, it's just more churn in the small tech space. And again, to Gene's point, we are adding new logos in the small tech space and we're actually doing pretty well there and holding up pretty well, but it's not offsetting the losses.

Speaker 3

And again, as Gene laid out the challenges that a lot of these clients had where they had funding 2 years ago when they signed the contract and obviously may not today. And so that's really the prime story on the enterprise count. On headcount growth, we continue to target mid to high single digit QBH growth by the end of this year. And again, the combination of the size of the Army we had entering the year, people coming up the 10 year curve and that is the high synergy growth in QBH, should set us up or will set us up to continue to accelerate contract value growth rolling into 2025.

Speaker 7

Thank you.

Speaker 2

Thank you. And our next question comes from Surinder Thind from Jefferies. Your line is now open.

Speaker 9

Thank you. Just following up on some of the Tech Bender questions here. On an absolute dollar basis for CV for Tech Bender, is the idea that we're close to stabilizing at this point? Or how should we think about the trajectory over the course of the year as you think about CV growth reaccelerating. So is the primary determinant of that where CV for Tech Bender ends up or how should we think about that?

Speaker 3

Hey, good morning, Surinder. I think it's a combination across the portfolio that will fuel the reacceleration for CV. I mean clearly, tech vendor needs to be a piece of that. It's about 25% of total CV. But we also see opportunity for acceleration across the enterprise function leader portion of our business as well.

Speaker 3

As Gene highlighted, that continues to grow at around 10% combined. So pretty strong growth in a challenging environment. But essentially, I think we believe the well, I shouldn't say the tides will lift all three businesses, but all three portions of the CV base should see improvement that lead to the reacceleration of growth.

Speaker 9

Got it. But as a clarification, is CV for tech vendor assumed to inflect positive at any point in your guidance at this point?

Speaker 3

Sure, Indore, we generally don't guide around contract value. And so, yes, I can't answer that specifically. All I would say is from either the Q1 or Q2 point, we expect total CV to begin to reaccelerate and certainly tech vendor CV will contribute there.

Speaker 9

Got it. And then just a quick follow-up on the non subscription pricing stabilization. It sounds like it stabilized fairly quickly or in the last few months. Is that a fair characterization? And then could the opposite also happen?

Speaker 9

Is how quickly could you potentially see improvements? Is that something that we could start to see in the back half of the year? Or how should we think about the potential for when pricing may reaccelerate or normalize?

Speaker 3

Yes, it's sort of a great question. So the pricing is based on the what we're calling the quality of the leads, which is basically the proportion of leads that we send that turn into actual clients. And so in analyzing it, we've determined that increasing that proportion actually increases prices. But what happens is you send the vendor the lead and they have to actually close the deals. And so there's a lag time between when you send the better leads and when the pricing goes up.

Speaker 3

And so we certainly we believe the pricing will go up as we increase the quality of leads. Exactly when that happens is hard to predict because of the dynamic I just talked about. The companies actually have to get the leads, close them, realize that they got that business and then reflect that in their pricing.

Speaker 9

Thank you.

Speaker 2

Thank you. Our next question will come from George Tong from Goldman Sachs. Your line is open.

Speaker 10

Hi, thanks. Good morning. Can you discuss how tech vendor trends performed moving through the quarter and in the month of April? Are trends still trying to find the bottom? Have you seen any stabilization?

Speaker 10

Or are you seeing early signs of a positive inflection?

Speaker 3

Hey, George, good morning. I don't think there's anything really to call out month to month. I mean, our business, as you know, tends to be very heavily weighted towards the last month of the quarter. And so it's hard to draw inferences or conclusions from Jan to Feb to March, etcetera. I guess, all I'd say is we expect that total CV will reaccelerate coming off of either Q1 or Q2.

Speaker 3

And again, as we just discussed with Surinder, tech vendor will be a piece of that reacceleration.

Speaker 10

Okay, got it. And then with respect to margins, you raised your EBITDA margin outlook for the year from 23% to 23.5%. Typically, revenue upside is what drives the margin upside since expenses are stable at this point. So what's driving your improved margin outlook and what are your latest thoughts on what normalized EBITDA margin should be?

Speaker 3

Yes, George, great question. So spot on, on your assessment, I guess I would say a couple of things. So one is that clearly our margins are structurally higher today than they were in 2016 or 20 19. As you know, there are a lot of factors that can influence margins on a quarter to quarter basis or over the course of a year. It stands right now with coming out of Q1, sort of putting aside foreign exchange for a little bit, we modestly outperformed our expectations or our operating plan on revenue and then had modest upside from an OpEx perspective as well.

Speaker 3

We have flowed that through the balance of the year and what you see is the guidance that implies a 23.5 percent EBITDA margin for the year, for 2024. In terms of how to think about future years, we're only 1 quarter into 2024. We'll give 2025 guidance in February of 2025. But again, a framework or a way to sort of think about it is with the QBH growth that we're we've got baked into the 2024 plan, we're growing our expenses in high single digits. And that's obviously consistent with our medium term framework on how we want to run this over the long term to drive long term sustained double digit top line growth.

Speaker 3

Obviously, today with decelerating CV, that puts a little bit of pressure on the margins as the revenue growth is not as great as the expense growth. That said, we're really disciplined around where we're spending and how we manage our expenses and we're finding that balance between delivering on our margin expectations and making sure that we are investing appropriately to drive future growth. And then the last thing I'd say is, over the medium to long term, there is operating leverage in the business and we expect to modestly expand our margins each and every year over the medium to long term.

Speaker 10

Very helpful. Thank you.

Speaker 2

Thank you. And we will take our last question from Jeff Silber from BMO Capital Markets. Your line is now open.

Speaker 8

Hey, thanks a lot. Just Ryan on for Jeff. On the renewal activity over the past couple of quarters, can you compare the terms of those renewals to all the new business you signed 2, 3 years ago? In particular, are you seeing greater preference for longer contracts? And then what sort of price escalators are typically embedded in there, if anything worth calling out?

Speaker 3

Hey, good morning, Ryan. I'd say it's been pretty stable and normal. So our standard contract is essentially a 2 year contract. I think somewhere around 70% of our contract value are multiyear contracts, 2 or 3 years, but the bulk of them are actually 2 year. To your point, we do build price escalators into those multiyear contracts and sort of aligns with what our pricing expectation is when we sign the contract.

Speaker 3

So think an escalator of between 3% 5 percent on the anniversary of those contracts. And I'd say in this environment, we're selling roughly same amount of multiyear contracts that we sold 12 months ago or 18 months ago. The team is very focused on continuing to improve that number. It's just it's great for our economics and it's actually great for our clients as well because their challenges are not bounded by a 12 month timeframe. They're bigger than that.

Speaker 3

So signing 24 month contracts or 36 month contracts makes sense both from our business model perspective, but almost as importantly or more importantly from a client perspective and that hasn't really changed.

Speaker 8

Got it. Thank you. And then just on the quarterly cadence, what are the meaningful hiring quarters this year? And then just more broadly, how is the hiring market currently for tech talent?

Speaker 3

So let me start with the tech talent market. So our turnover is very, very low. It's near record lows. And so that's really good for us because it helped increase tenure. On the hiring side, we have a great associate value proposition and a great recruiting team that does an incredible job communicating that value proposition.

Speaker 3

And so we get a lot of demand just give the Flight Report. We get approximately 200 applicants for every single job. If you benchmark that, that is way off the charts. And so we're very, very attractive employer. And that lets this combination of being a very attractive employer, let's just hire great people.

Speaker 3

And then once we're here, we retain them, which is why we have such low turnover. And we work this issue on both the recruiting side and the retention side of our associates. And so that's going to be getting better and better over time, which is one of the things that's driving associate tenure up, which in turn over time drives productivity up. And then Ryan on the timing or the phasing, hiring dates can be they can happen on June 29 and they're in the 2nd quarter number or they could happen on July 1 and then they're in the 3rd quarter number. We're very focused on making sure that we hire the right amount of people over the course of this year so that we enter 2025 with the right number of sellers ready to go.

Speaker 3

And so when we talk about the mid to high single digit year over year growth in quota bearing hires across GTS and GBS. That's really a December to December measure, but that's really the most important measure because the people we hire over the course of 2024 don't have a huge impact on 2024. But if we have MNC and trained with a little bit of experience rolling into 2025, they can actually have a meaningful impact on 20252026 and beyond. So as you think about the QVH growth of mid to high single digits, that's really where we want to end the year 2024, so that we're very well positioned as we start 2025.

Speaker 8

Great. Thank you.

Speaker 2

Thank you. And that does conclude our question and answer session for today's conference. I'll now turn the call back over to Gene Hall for any closing remarks.

Speaker 3

Well, here's what I'd like you to take away from today's call. Gartner delivered financial results ahead of expectations and 10% contract value growth with enterprise function leaders. We have a vast addressable market opportunity. We have a strong value proposition. Looking ahead, we're well positioned to continue our sustained record of success far into the future.

Speaker 3

We'll continue to create value for our shareholders by providing actionable objective insight to our clients, prudently investing for future growth, generating free cash flow well in excess of net income and returning capital to our shareholders through our repurchase program. Thanks for joining us today and we look forward to updating you again next quarter.

Speaker 2

This concludes today's conference call. Thank you for your participation. You may now disconnect. Everyone, have a wonderful day.

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