NYSE:CSV Carriage Services Q1 2024 Earnings Report $39.48 +0.68 (+1.75%) Closing price 04/17/2025 03:59 PM EasternExtended Trading$39.46 -0.02 (-0.06%) As of 04/17/2025 06:06 PM Eastern Extended trading is trading that happens on electronic markets outside of regular trading hours. This is a fair market value extended hours price provided by Polygon.io. Learn more. Earnings HistoryForecast Carriage Services EPS ResultsActual EPS$0.75Consensus EPS $0.59Beat/MissBeat by +$0.16One Year Ago EPS$0.56Carriage Services Revenue ResultsActual Revenue$103.49 millionExpected Revenue$98.17 millionBeat/MissBeat by +$5.32 millionYoY Revenue GrowthN/ACarriage Services Announcement DetailsQuarterQ1 2024Date5/1/2024TimeAfter Market ClosesConference Call DateThursday, May 2, 2024Conference Call Time10:30AM ETUpcoming EarningsCarriage Services' Q1 2025 earnings is scheduled for Tuesday, April 29, 2025, with a conference call scheduled on Thursday, May 1, 2025 at 9:00 AM ET. Check back for transcripts, audio, and key financial metrics as they become available.Conference Call ResourcesConference Call AudioConference Call TranscriptPress Release (8-K)Quarterly Report (10-Q)Earnings HistoryCompany ProfilePowered by Carriage Services Q1 2024 Earnings Call TranscriptProvided by QuartrMay 2, 2024 ShareLink copied to clipboard.There are 7 speakers on the call. Operator00:00:00Good day and thank you for standing by. Welcome to the Carriage Services First Quarter 2024 Earnings Conference Call. Please be advised that today's conference is being recorded. I would now like to hand the conference over to your speaker today, Steve Metzger, President. Please go ahead, sir. Speaker 100:00:20Good morning, everyone, and thank you for joining us to discuss our Q1 results. In addition to myself, on the call this morning from management are Carlos Quezada, Chief Executive Officer and Vice Chairman of the Board of Directors and Kean Gremaya, Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer. On the Carriage Services website, you can find our earnings press release, which was issued yesterday after the market closed. Our press release is intended to supplement our remarks this morning and include supplemental financial information, including the reconciliation of differences between GAAP and non GAAP financial measures. Today's call will begin with formal remarks from Carlos and Keyon and will be followed by a question and answer period. Speaker 100:00:58Before we begin, I'd like to remind everyone that during this call, we'll make some forward looking statements, including comments about our business, projections and plans. Forward looking statements inherently involve risks and uncertainties and only reflect our views as of today. These risks and uncertainties include, but are not limited to, factors identified in our earnings release as well as in our SEC filings, all of which can be found on our website. Thank you all for joining us this morning. And now I'd like to turn the call over to Carlos. Speaker 200:01:28Thank you, Steve, and thank you all for joining our Q1 earnings call. We are excited to share our outstanding performance. But before we do, I want to express our heartfelt gratitude to the entire Carriage family. Whether in the field or our support center, each of you has played a crucial role in driving these results. Your unwavering dedication and relentless passion for delivering an elevated service to all families have been instrumental in our success. Speaker 200:02:01We deeply appreciate your continued support and commitment to our shared goals. Before we start, I hope you had an opportunity to read our 2023 shareholder letter and proxy statement. Both are reaching information related to our 5 year strategic objectives and our core initiatives for 2024, setting the stage for our transformative vision of the carriage of the future. Now let's dive into our financial highlights. We are proud to report that our strategic objective plan is well underway and the progress in executing the individual initiatives to grow revenue and reduce cost is starting to produce positive results. Speaker 200:02:45For the Q1, our total revenue was $103,500,000 a substantial increase of $8,000,000 or 8.4 percent. This is a significant milestone for Carriage history as it marks the first time we have surpassed the €100,000,000 mark in a single quarter. This remarkable performance was primarily driven by the exceptional results of our preneed cemetery team and the successful integration of Greenland, our most recent acquisition. These achievements underscore our strong financial position and ability to deliver on our strategic objectives. Looking at each of our revenue segments, we see that total Funeral Home operating revenue increased to $66,600,000 an increase of $1,200,000 or 1.8 percent. Speaker 200:03:40Despite the expected decrease in total funeral operating volume of 1.9% as part of the post pandemic normalization, our targeted improvements to our pricing strategy have made a significant positive impact. We have seen an increase in total funeral operating average per contract of $2.19 per contract or 4% compared to the same quarter last year. This result of our pricing strategy is a testament to our confidence in its effectiveness and we believe we will continue to make additional progress throughout the year. Regarding our cemetery operating revenue, we ended the quarter at $27,600,000 an increase of $6,300,000 or 29.4 percent compared to the same quarter last year. This is another significant milestone for Carriage, achieving a record first quarter in preneed cemetery sales. Speaker 200:04:39The preneed cemetery team delivered an impressive 38.4% growth compared to the same period last year. We couldn't be prouder of this achievement, which is a direct result of our entire sales organization, hard work and dedication towards sales excellence. For total financial revenue, we ended the Q1 at $6,900,000 an increase of 868 $1,000 or 14.3 percent, driven primarily by the impressive growth in preneed funeral commission income, which increased by $570,000 or 177 percent compared to the same quarter last year. Our preneed funeral strategy continues to produce positive results, and we continue to be very excited about our potential future performance through our exclusive strategic partnership with Precoa and the National Guardian Life Insurance Company. We remain committed to our growth strategy, and we will continue to explore opportunities to enhance our financial performance. Speaker 200:05:42Regarding adjusted consolidated EBITDA for the first quarter, we finished with $33,600,000 an increase of $5,800,000 or 20.9 percent. The combination of a higher average revenue per contract and the continued execution of our cost management initiatives delivered great success, demonstrated by our total funeral fill EBITDA margin of 41.3%, an increase of 100 basis points and total cemetery fill EBITDA margin of 43.3%, an increase of 430 basis points, While our corporate overhead experienced an increase of $6,100,000 during the Q1, 90% of it was non recurring and related to separation agreement. Adjusted diluted EPS in the Q1 grew to $0.75 per share, an increase of $0.19 or 33.9 percent. While interest rates remain high, we are now at a comparable level to previous quarters. And even though rates, we continue to be focused on committing most of our free cash flow towards debt payments, as evidenced by the $25,000,000 of debt that we paid down this quarter. Speaker 200:06:57Kian will share more on this later in this call. We are very proud of these results, as this makes 5 out of the last 6 quarters of outperforming expectations. While we had a solid Q1, we remain diligent about capital allocation and continuing to execute our strategic initiatives, while being mindful of how seasonality and normalization post pandemic may impact our volumes in the near term. March had the greatest decline in volume in the 1st 3 months of the year, So we will closely monitor those levels going forward. Therefore, we reconfirm our 2024 outlook. Speaker 200:07:39As we gather more information leading into the end of the second quarter, we should have more insight to share. Ian will also cover more on this in this call. In closing, we are very excited about the future at Carriage. With our strategic initiatives well underway and the hard work and dedication invested over the past year, we well positioned for sustained innovation and financial progress. What we're building is not just about near term achievements. Speaker 200:08:11It's about establishing a foundation to deliver lasting value to our shareholders for years to come. Thank you for your interest and support. With that, I will now turn things over to Ken. Speaker 300:08:24Thank you, Carlos, and good morning to everyone on the call. Before I dive into a review of our financials, I wanted to reinforce Carlos' earlier comments regarding the recent disclosure of our new purpose statement and the relentless focus and alignment to our 5 year strategic objectives. This is important to mention since every decision we make, whether large or small, is aligned with our strategic vision and objectives in mind. This discipline and focus on achieving our outlined goals and executing on our vision is the foundation to generating long term shareholder value. Now turning to our financials. Speaker 300:08:59Since Carlos provided an overview of our key financial metrics for this quarter, I will review a few additional financial highlights around overhead, cash flow and leverage, and I'll also provide some color on completing our recent non core divestitures and an update on our 2024 outlook. First, I will start off with corporate overhead, where we continue to be laser focused on spending and cost saving opportunities. This quarter, when adjusting out special items related to the review of strategic alternatives, which concluded in late February, along with the accounting treatment of MELS transition agreement, our overhead costs totaled approximately 12,700,000 dollars or approximately 12.3 percent of revenue, which continues to track lower than our previously stated 13% target for the full year 2024. Next, let's discuss cash flow for the quarter. When normalizing cash flow from operations for one time items, our cash flow from operations increased 17.1 percent to $22,100,000 up from $18,900,000 in the same quarter last year. Speaker 300:09:57This solid cash flow from operations translated into robust adjusted free cash flow. As a reminder, we are transitioning our adjusted free cash flow calculation to a traditional calculation, which will include all capital expenditures. We have provided a reconciliation table at the end of our press release that provides a bridge between our historical reporting methodology that includes maintenance capital expenditures only and the more traditional methodology that includes all capital expenditures. We will continue reporting both methodologies for the remainder of 2024 before converting exclusively to the traditional methodology in 2025 and beyond. For the quarter, with maintenance capital expenditures lower than the prior year quarter, our historical calculation for adjusted free cash flow increased by $3,900,000 and increased by approximately $4,700,000 when including all capital expenditures over the same period. Speaker 300:10:50As you may notice from these numbers, capital expenditures are tracking down 29% relative to the same period last year, which again highlights our focus on disciplined capital allocation without compromising our organic growth initiatives. This strong cash flow generation, along with our well defined capital allocation strategy, brings me to my 3rd highlight, the reduction in outstanding borrowings under our variable rate credit facility. This quarter, we were able to pay down an additional $25,000,000 on our credit facility, reducing the outstanding borrowings to $154,100,000 by quarterend. Of note, included in the $25,000,000 pay down this quarter was approximately 10,900,000 dollars in gross proceeds from 2 non core divestitures that were directly funneled towards paying down our credit facility. We are especially proud of the fact that our capital discipline and capital allocation strategy has allowed us to pay down approximately $62,000,000 on our credit facility since we closed the Greenall acquisition at the end of the Q1 last year. Speaker 300:11:46The combination of decreasing leverage and increasing our EBITDA has resulted in a decrease in our leverage ratio slightly below the 5 times threshold, ending at 4.99 times net debt to EBITDA as defined by our bank covenant compliance ratio. I would like to note here that our bank leverage ratio does not allow us to add back the entirety of our special item expenses, in particular expenses related to our review of strategic alternatives. And as a result, our leverage ratio may seem higher than a normal leverage ratio calculation. Despite the pay down, interest rates continue to hover around the same weighted average interest rate of 8.9% on our credit facility for the quarter as compared to 7.9% in the same quarter last year. However, we will receive a 25 basis point relief on our interest rate spread now that our leverage ratio has landed below 5 times. Speaker 300:12:35Lastly, I will turn to our full year 2024 outlook, which remains unchanged despite this quarter's outperformance in our 2 non core divestitures closed in the quarter. As a reminder, our 2024 outlook already included our 2 non core divestitures since we already had line of sight into these transactions at the time of our last earnings call in late February. Our 2024 outlook includes for total revenue, the range is $380,000,000 to $390,000,000 dollars For adjusted consolidated EBITDA, the range is $112,000,000 to $118,000,000 For adjusted diluted earnings per share, the range is $2.20 to $2.30 And lastly, for adjusted free cash flow, which is aligned with our historical methodology of maintenance capital expenditures only, the range is $55,000,000 to $65,000,000 Though our Q1 financial performance is a solid start to the year, we are remaining prudent in reaffirming our 2024 guidance range due to the unpredictable COVID pull forward effect that Carlos mentioned earlier, which may be combined with historically lower I will conclude I will conclude my remarks by reiterating my earlier point that as a management team, we are pleased that our disciplined approach around capital allocation and executing on our strategic objectives has translated into continued momentum in our Q1 2024 results. Speaker 300:14:03The results speak for themselves with increased revenue, EBITDA and cash flow paired with reduced overhead and leverage With the distraction of the review of strategic alternatives behind us and an emphasis on enhancing our finance and accounting organization with key additions, especially Cathy Shanley, our new superstar Chief Accounting Officer, who brings more than 30 years of industry experience and best practices. 2024 is a transformational year for Carriage with critical initiatives to execute on as we position the company to return to its focus on opportunistic growth through acquisition in 2025 and execute on our 5 year strategic and financial objectives. With that, I'll pass it back to the operator for questions. Operator00:14:49Thank you. We will now conduct a question and answer session. Speaker 400:15:23Hi, guys, and thank you for taking my questions. Congratulate on the strong start to the year. Speaker 300:15:30Thanks, Alex. Speaker 500:15:31Thank you, Alex. Speaker 400:15:33I got a few clarifying questions here, starting first with the Funeral segment. Revenues up 1.8%, driven by according to the press release, a 2.6% decline in contract volume and a 4.1 percent increase in the average revenue per funeral contract. I think Carlos just said just that total funeral volume was down 1.9%, press release said down 2.6%. What's the difference between first of all, what's the difference between the two figures you're Speaker 300:16:08quoting? Yes. So one of those numbers includes is a consolidated view and the other one is post divestitures. So it's kind of on a what we call an operating revenue perspective. So that's on a go forward basis. Speaker 400:16:24So the $1,900,000,000 excludes the impact of the divestitures? Speaker 200:16:29That is correct. That's current operating volume. Speaker 400:16:35Got you. Speaker 200:16:36And then on the So it's more collective of our current activities. Speaker 400:16:40Got you. Helpful. Thank you a lot. And then the increase in average revenue per funeral contract, how does that break out between traditional funeral and a cremation? Speaker 200:16:52Yes, absolutely. We had for the Q1 an increase on burial contract of 3.2% and on cremation contract of 4.5%, totaling 4% for all total contract improvement on our pricing. Speaker 400:17:09Good. That's helpful. And then again, just to dig into that comment that you made, Carlos, that March was the most significant decline year over year in volume year to date. And I know we're still dealing with the headwind of the COVID pull forward effect. And you had previously said that's going to kind of be present for the full year. Speaker 400:17:39Do you expect that, that will diminish in the coming quarters? And then for the full year, do you expect volumes to be comparable to last year's volumes? Speaker 200:17:52Yes. So great question, Alex. So what we experienced is January February had a little elevated death rate potentially from some flu seasons or something related to more deaths than we were expecting, because we're expecting a little bit more of a decline on a volume year over year perspective or basis. However, March came a little slower than we thought on volume. And so that's why we wanted to just be mindful. Speaker 200:18:18Our projection is to continue to have a slow decline on volume throughout the rest of the year, progressively down through the Q4. So we are around 1.9% right now. We believe by December, we should be just maybe 50 basis points or around those lines. That's our hope and projections. We'll see a margin between 1% to 2%, but we're continuing to work through market share gains to continue to make up if we can and where we can for whatever volume we lose from post COVID-nineteen normalization. Speaker 400:18:57Got you. And then related to the divestitures completed in the Q1, I think you had previously said the impact is $5,500,000 to revenue and $1,500,000 to EBITDA. And then you've got proceeds of roughly $11,000,000 for those. Are those all pretty much in line where you had expected them to be? And I realize that that's already included in the full year guidance. Speaker 300:19:25That's correct, Alex. So this is Keyon. So what we did is when we were looking at the upcoming year and our 2024 guidance, we had already eliminated, as you mentioned, the $5,500,000 of revenue and $1,500,000 of EBITDA. So our 2024 guidance is already reflective of that adjustment out. Speaker 400:19:42Okay. And then are there others that you think might represent similar characteristics in terms of being a non core asset ripe for divestiture in 2024? Speaker 100:19:56Yes. So, Alex, this is Steve. We've got a couple of things we're working on now that are real estate transactions solely, so nothing big on the business front. We'll continue to take a look at opportunities. When we do that, we weigh everything, including potential impact to our effective tax rate. Speaker 100:20:11So as those things come through the door, we'll take a look at them, but nothing right now of substance to report. Speaker 400:20:21Got you. And then the last question I have for now is on debt. You paid down $25,000,000 on the credit line. You're at roughly $153,000,000 now. Your leverage ratio is 4.99. Speaker 400:20:38I think you had a year end target of 4.75. Are all those still in line with your thinking? Speaker 300:20:46Yes. So we feel comfortable landing within that kind of 4.75x to 5x range. We've kind of done our model analysis and kind of looked at the scenarios and just based on various factors on performance and Steve mentioned the potential divestitures of non core assets, we're going to land comfortably within that 4.75 times to 5 times range. Speaker 200:21:07And then I think Speaker 400:21:08a longer term target is 3.5% to 4%. When do you expect to kind of fall within that range, the end of 2025 or do you have a target? Speaker 300:21:20Yes. So as we just kind of look at our next milestones, as we look at kind of year end 2020 5, the next milestone for us is getting to 4.5x where interest rate spread decreases significantly by 125 basis points and then getting down to 4.25 times where we can kind of get back into acquisition mode. And we kind of anticipate getting into that level by the back half of twenty twenty five And then getting kind of below that 4 times is probably as we turn the corner going into 2026 is when we kind of realistically expect to kind of get to that level. Speaker 400:21:57Great. Thank you. That's all great color. I'll get back into the queue. Thanks. Speaker 200:22:02Thank you, Alex. Operator00:22:05We'll go next to Liam Burke with B. Riley. Speaker 500:22:09Thank you. Good morning, Carlos, Steve and Keyan. Speaker 200:22:12Good morning, Liam. Good morning, Liam. Speaker 500:22:15I just need clarification on an earlier question. 3.5% and contract revenue for cremation up 4.5%? Speaker 200:22:333.2% on burial, 4.5% on cremation. Speaker 500:22:37And that's on a year over year basis, okay. Yes. Okay. Hopping over to your momentum in preneed sales, have you fully staffed the sales force or can we expect further build out an additional momentum here? Speaker 200:22:54I believe we'll continue to experience sustainable momentum throughout the year. You have Harry Munson and others, as you know, Qingming, which is a huge Asian celebration, starts in March, continues through April. And then you have summer, which are a little bit more difficult due to the summer vacation time. A lot of families are not home. But over on a year over year basis, we should be able to continue to experience significant growth on preneed cemetery sales, including property and merchant services. Speaker 200:23:25They have done an incredible job. We slowed a little bit of momentum middle year last year, mainly because we upgraded a few of our sales leadership in the cemeteries. That took place last year, the development of those leaders, the activity leading up to the level of activity we need to deliver this type of sales have been in place since then and the strategy and plan to continue this momentum is in place. So we feel very encouraged that between the leadership team we have in place led by Shane Pudenz, in addition to our CRM and marketing efforts for lead generation, we'll continue to grow over the next few quarters. Speaker 500:24:03Great. Thank you. And getting back acquisitions, I know you stated that where your leverage level would be, where you'd be comfortable to ramp up acquisitions. But is there anything that you would see over the transom between now and then? Speaker 100:24:18That's a good question, Lee. I mean, actually timely. So we just spent some time last week with a business that we're interested in partnering with when the time is right. And so just keeping those relationships active is important to us and a key focus that we continue to look at while we continue to pay down our debt. So we keep those conversations flowing and make sure that people are up to date on where Carriage is and we'll continue to do that until we get to 4.25. Speaker 500:24:45Great. Thank you. Speaker 200:24:49Thank you, Liam. Operator00:24:52We'll go next to George Kelly with ROTH MKM. Speaker 600:24:57Hey, everybody. Thanks for taking my questions. Speaker 300:25:01Good morning, George. Maybe I'll Speaker 600:25:04start with just a quick follow-up to the comments in the prepared remarks and then I think there was a question earlier, but just to follow-up on the trend you saw in volume through the quarter. I'm curious if you could comment on what you've seen so far in April. And then secondly, same topic is, if you were to compare the January February volume growth that you saw with March, I think you said it turned negative in March. I'm just curious how great that difference was between sort of where you started and where you ended the quarter? Speaker 200:25:43Yes. It was about 200 basis points variance between January, February and then compare that to March, which is within the range. And it's just that March happens to be a very large month for us, typically coming from pre intermediary sales. So we made up some of it through it. But from a funeral volume perspective, it was enough for us to kind of like pay attention. Speaker 200:26:03As it relates to your question on April, it remains on the same line. The really good news is that our efforts on enhancement to our pricing strategy continues to deliver great momentum. And we continue to have that ability to make up, if not all, a significant amount of that declining volume. That in addition to our continued integration of our most recent acquisition, which is Greenlawn, which as you know, have 3 funeral homes that are continuing to perform better and better as we continue to integrate them into our company. Speaker 600:26:38Okay. Thank you. And then next question is on the 4 wall, the pricing and cost efficiency measures that you're sort of working through the system. I'm curious with respect to each one, if you were to take pricing on one side and cost efficiencies on the other on the 4 wall and the funeral side, like what inning are you in each of those initiatives? Speaker 200:27:04Yes. So even though we had a very significant bump on pricing in December and then now reflected on our Q1 of this year, we just launched in last month really what it is our new strategic pricing review, which is going to be reviewed by business on a quarterly basis. And the intention of this review is not to increase price just for the sake of increasing price. It is to have a conversation with our leaders in the field who know best the communities, the competition, the right pricing for the businesses and of course what type of merchandise they need to be selling. However, the review does have a significant amount of information that in reflection to the performance of the previous month or quarter should be able to lead them to best decisions. Speaker 200:27:52And also, it's not just about price increase. It's about strategies to continue to present better to families, presenting all options to every single family so they can have a very comprehensive and customized life of celebration to each one of their loved ones. And so it's a combination of the 2, right? Strategic review process, a very thoughtful data analytic process, plus how can we become better at presenting to families to elevate our average revenue per contract. That's on the pricing side. Speaker 200:28:27As it relates to cost, which was the second part of your question, we have been able to do a lot of good work in getting our costs down. We have mentioned in the past that some of the things we want to do with Carriage is find that fine balance between the Empower partnership as per our purpose statement and decentralization and our ability to maximize our scale. And so we are continuing to centralize some of the items that are not influencing the market leader ability to grow market share, to continue to establish relationships in the community and continue to grow their brand locally. And we're continuing to think about those things in terms of whether it's utilities, whether it's IT decisions, whether it's HR related centralization options. But what we are very encouraged by right now, we have started a full blown process to review our supply chain and procurement practices that will lead to some significant benefit as soon as we finish that process. Speaker 200:29:33That will include negotiation with vendors, how we elect vendors moving forward, our payment terms with each one of them and of course discounts and rebates that may benefit and will benefit the company moving forward. So very, very excited about where we are on a stage on cost initiatives, but even more excited about what's to come from that perspective. Speaker 600:29:58And would you anticipate seeing the benefits of that exercise you're going through right now in the next maybe by year end or when would that start to hit? Speaker 200:30:09I believe some will be realized before the end of the year and some will take a little bit more time. They're more comprehensive, a larger scope and most likely will be realized in 2025. But there'll be some low hanging fruit that we have already identified and are starting to quantify. Most likely, we should be able to share some of that on our Q2 release that will be realized during 2024. Speaker 600:30:31Okay. And then just one last quick one for me. Steve, you mentioned that there's potentially some real estate that you guys are considering monetizing. Can you share a little more detail on what that could look like? And I'm assuming that there's no revenue tied to that or maybe that's an unfair assumption anymore. Speaker 600:30:49And I guess the magnitude of could that be larger, smaller than the divestitures that you've already completed so far this year? Thanks. Speaker 100:30:59Yes, it's a great question, George. So on the real estate front, from time to time, we will recognize that we've got a business that quite frankly sits on very valuable real estate that is more valuable than what that business is. And so once we run the numbers on that to see if there's any way to kind of bridge the gap between that value, we'll make a determination if it makes sense to try and market that real estate. It's not often. We don't have a lot of these opportunities, but we do have a few and we're working on one right now that it's going to be a 7 figure proceeds transaction for us whenever we're able to finalize it. Speaker 100:31:37So again, not something I would say is frequent for us, but we do take a look at that from time to time to make sure we're aware of what those real estate values look like. Generally, when we're looking at those opportunities, it is in a market where we can then funnel those calls to a nearby business. So we're not losing out on any of the business when we sell the real estate. Speaker 600:31:58Understand. Thanks. Operator00:32:38This does conclude the question and answer portion of today's call. At this time, I would like to turn the call over to Carlos for any closing remarks. Speaker 200:32:49Thank you for joining. As we conclude our call today, I want to express our gratitude for your continued support and belief in our vision and purpose statement. Our strong performance this quarter is a clear indication that our strategic initiatives and 5 year objectives are right on track. We're confident that these efforts will continue to enhance performance in the future, driving sustained growth and creating added shareholder value. 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There are 7 speakers on the call. Operator00:00:00Good day and thank you for standing by. Welcome to the Carriage Services First Quarter 2024 Earnings Conference Call. Please be advised that today's conference is being recorded. I would now like to hand the conference over to your speaker today, Steve Metzger, President. Please go ahead, sir. Speaker 100:00:20Good morning, everyone, and thank you for joining us to discuss our Q1 results. In addition to myself, on the call this morning from management are Carlos Quezada, Chief Executive Officer and Vice Chairman of the Board of Directors and Kean Gremaya, Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer. On the Carriage Services website, you can find our earnings press release, which was issued yesterday after the market closed. Our press release is intended to supplement our remarks this morning and include supplemental financial information, including the reconciliation of differences between GAAP and non GAAP financial measures. Today's call will begin with formal remarks from Carlos and Keyon and will be followed by a question and answer period. Speaker 100:00:58Before we begin, I'd like to remind everyone that during this call, we'll make some forward looking statements, including comments about our business, projections and plans. Forward looking statements inherently involve risks and uncertainties and only reflect our views as of today. These risks and uncertainties include, but are not limited to, factors identified in our earnings release as well as in our SEC filings, all of which can be found on our website. Thank you all for joining us this morning. And now I'd like to turn the call over to Carlos. Speaker 200:01:28Thank you, Steve, and thank you all for joining our Q1 earnings call. We are excited to share our outstanding performance. But before we do, I want to express our heartfelt gratitude to the entire Carriage family. Whether in the field or our support center, each of you has played a crucial role in driving these results. Your unwavering dedication and relentless passion for delivering an elevated service to all families have been instrumental in our success. Speaker 200:02:01We deeply appreciate your continued support and commitment to our shared goals. Before we start, I hope you had an opportunity to read our 2023 shareholder letter and proxy statement. Both are reaching information related to our 5 year strategic objectives and our core initiatives for 2024, setting the stage for our transformative vision of the carriage of the future. Now let's dive into our financial highlights. We are proud to report that our strategic objective plan is well underway and the progress in executing the individual initiatives to grow revenue and reduce cost is starting to produce positive results. Speaker 200:02:45For the Q1, our total revenue was $103,500,000 a substantial increase of $8,000,000 or 8.4 percent. This is a significant milestone for Carriage history as it marks the first time we have surpassed the €100,000,000 mark in a single quarter. This remarkable performance was primarily driven by the exceptional results of our preneed cemetery team and the successful integration of Greenland, our most recent acquisition. These achievements underscore our strong financial position and ability to deliver on our strategic objectives. Looking at each of our revenue segments, we see that total Funeral Home operating revenue increased to $66,600,000 an increase of $1,200,000 or 1.8 percent. Speaker 200:03:40Despite the expected decrease in total funeral operating volume of 1.9% as part of the post pandemic normalization, our targeted improvements to our pricing strategy have made a significant positive impact. We have seen an increase in total funeral operating average per contract of $2.19 per contract or 4% compared to the same quarter last year. This result of our pricing strategy is a testament to our confidence in its effectiveness and we believe we will continue to make additional progress throughout the year. Regarding our cemetery operating revenue, we ended the quarter at $27,600,000 an increase of $6,300,000 or 29.4 percent compared to the same quarter last year. This is another significant milestone for Carriage, achieving a record first quarter in preneed cemetery sales. Speaker 200:04:39The preneed cemetery team delivered an impressive 38.4% growth compared to the same period last year. We couldn't be prouder of this achievement, which is a direct result of our entire sales organization, hard work and dedication towards sales excellence. For total financial revenue, we ended the Q1 at $6,900,000 an increase of 868 $1,000 or 14.3 percent, driven primarily by the impressive growth in preneed funeral commission income, which increased by $570,000 or 177 percent compared to the same quarter last year. Our preneed funeral strategy continues to produce positive results, and we continue to be very excited about our potential future performance through our exclusive strategic partnership with Precoa and the National Guardian Life Insurance Company. We remain committed to our growth strategy, and we will continue to explore opportunities to enhance our financial performance. Speaker 200:05:42Regarding adjusted consolidated EBITDA for the first quarter, we finished with $33,600,000 an increase of $5,800,000 or 20.9 percent. The combination of a higher average revenue per contract and the continued execution of our cost management initiatives delivered great success, demonstrated by our total funeral fill EBITDA margin of 41.3%, an increase of 100 basis points and total cemetery fill EBITDA margin of 43.3%, an increase of 430 basis points, While our corporate overhead experienced an increase of $6,100,000 during the Q1, 90% of it was non recurring and related to separation agreement. Adjusted diluted EPS in the Q1 grew to $0.75 per share, an increase of $0.19 or 33.9 percent. While interest rates remain high, we are now at a comparable level to previous quarters. And even though rates, we continue to be focused on committing most of our free cash flow towards debt payments, as evidenced by the $25,000,000 of debt that we paid down this quarter. Speaker 200:06:57Kian will share more on this later in this call. We are very proud of these results, as this makes 5 out of the last 6 quarters of outperforming expectations. While we had a solid Q1, we remain diligent about capital allocation and continuing to execute our strategic initiatives, while being mindful of how seasonality and normalization post pandemic may impact our volumes in the near term. March had the greatest decline in volume in the 1st 3 months of the year, So we will closely monitor those levels going forward. Therefore, we reconfirm our 2024 outlook. Speaker 200:07:39As we gather more information leading into the end of the second quarter, we should have more insight to share. Ian will also cover more on this in this call. In closing, we are very excited about the future at Carriage. With our strategic initiatives well underway and the hard work and dedication invested over the past year, we well positioned for sustained innovation and financial progress. What we're building is not just about near term achievements. Speaker 200:08:11It's about establishing a foundation to deliver lasting value to our shareholders for years to come. Thank you for your interest and support. With that, I will now turn things over to Ken. Speaker 300:08:24Thank you, Carlos, and good morning to everyone on the call. Before I dive into a review of our financials, I wanted to reinforce Carlos' earlier comments regarding the recent disclosure of our new purpose statement and the relentless focus and alignment to our 5 year strategic objectives. This is important to mention since every decision we make, whether large or small, is aligned with our strategic vision and objectives in mind. This discipline and focus on achieving our outlined goals and executing on our vision is the foundation to generating long term shareholder value. Now turning to our financials. Speaker 300:08:59Since Carlos provided an overview of our key financial metrics for this quarter, I will review a few additional financial highlights around overhead, cash flow and leverage, and I'll also provide some color on completing our recent non core divestitures and an update on our 2024 outlook. First, I will start off with corporate overhead, where we continue to be laser focused on spending and cost saving opportunities. This quarter, when adjusting out special items related to the review of strategic alternatives, which concluded in late February, along with the accounting treatment of MELS transition agreement, our overhead costs totaled approximately 12,700,000 dollars or approximately 12.3 percent of revenue, which continues to track lower than our previously stated 13% target for the full year 2024. Next, let's discuss cash flow for the quarter. When normalizing cash flow from operations for one time items, our cash flow from operations increased 17.1 percent to $22,100,000 up from $18,900,000 in the same quarter last year. Speaker 300:09:57This solid cash flow from operations translated into robust adjusted free cash flow. As a reminder, we are transitioning our adjusted free cash flow calculation to a traditional calculation, which will include all capital expenditures. We have provided a reconciliation table at the end of our press release that provides a bridge between our historical reporting methodology that includes maintenance capital expenditures only and the more traditional methodology that includes all capital expenditures. We will continue reporting both methodologies for the remainder of 2024 before converting exclusively to the traditional methodology in 2025 and beyond. For the quarter, with maintenance capital expenditures lower than the prior year quarter, our historical calculation for adjusted free cash flow increased by $3,900,000 and increased by approximately $4,700,000 when including all capital expenditures over the same period. Speaker 300:10:50As you may notice from these numbers, capital expenditures are tracking down 29% relative to the same period last year, which again highlights our focus on disciplined capital allocation without compromising our organic growth initiatives. This strong cash flow generation, along with our well defined capital allocation strategy, brings me to my 3rd highlight, the reduction in outstanding borrowings under our variable rate credit facility. This quarter, we were able to pay down an additional $25,000,000 on our credit facility, reducing the outstanding borrowings to $154,100,000 by quarterend. Of note, included in the $25,000,000 pay down this quarter was approximately 10,900,000 dollars in gross proceeds from 2 non core divestitures that were directly funneled towards paying down our credit facility. We are especially proud of the fact that our capital discipline and capital allocation strategy has allowed us to pay down approximately $62,000,000 on our credit facility since we closed the Greenall acquisition at the end of the Q1 last year. Speaker 300:11:46The combination of decreasing leverage and increasing our EBITDA has resulted in a decrease in our leverage ratio slightly below the 5 times threshold, ending at 4.99 times net debt to EBITDA as defined by our bank covenant compliance ratio. I would like to note here that our bank leverage ratio does not allow us to add back the entirety of our special item expenses, in particular expenses related to our review of strategic alternatives. And as a result, our leverage ratio may seem higher than a normal leverage ratio calculation. Despite the pay down, interest rates continue to hover around the same weighted average interest rate of 8.9% on our credit facility for the quarter as compared to 7.9% in the same quarter last year. However, we will receive a 25 basis point relief on our interest rate spread now that our leverage ratio has landed below 5 times. Speaker 300:12:35Lastly, I will turn to our full year 2024 outlook, which remains unchanged despite this quarter's outperformance in our 2 non core divestitures closed in the quarter. As a reminder, our 2024 outlook already included our 2 non core divestitures since we already had line of sight into these transactions at the time of our last earnings call in late February. Our 2024 outlook includes for total revenue, the range is $380,000,000 to $390,000,000 dollars For adjusted consolidated EBITDA, the range is $112,000,000 to $118,000,000 For adjusted diluted earnings per share, the range is $2.20 to $2.30 And lastly, for adjusted free cash flow, which is aligned with our historical methodology of maintenance capital expenditures only, the range is $55,000,000 to $65,000,000 Though our Q1 financial performance is a solid start to the year, we are remaining prudent in reaffirming our 2024 guidance range due to the unpredictable COVID pull forward effect that Carlos mentioned earlier, which may be combined with historically lower I will conclude I will conclude my remarks by reiterating my earlier point that as a management team, we are pleased that our disciplined approach around capital allocation and executing on our strategic objectives has translated into continued momentum in our Q1 2024 results. Speaker 300:14:03The results speak for themselves with increased revenue, EBITDA and cash flow paired with reduced overhead and leverage With the distraction of the review of strategic alternatives behind us and an emphasis on enhancing our finance and accounting organization with key additions, especially Cathy Shanley, our new superstar Chief Accounting Officer, who brings more than 30 years of industry experience and best practices. 2024 is a transformational year for Carriage with critical initiatives to execute on as we position the company to return to its focus on opportunistic growth through acquisition in 2025 and execute on our 5 year strategic and financial objectives. With that, I'll pass it back to the operator for questions. Operator00:14:49Thank you. We will now conduct a question and answer session. Speaker 400:15:23Hi, guys, and thank you for taking my questions. Congratulate on the strong start to the year. Speaker 300:15:30Thanks, Alex. Speaker 500:15:31Thank you, Alex. Speaker 400:15:33I got a few clarifying questions here, starting first with the Funeral segment. Revenues up 1.8%, driven by according to the press release, a 2.6% decline in contract volume and a 4.1 percent increase in the average revenue per funeral contract. I think Carlos just said just that total funeral volume was down 1.9%, press release said down 2.6%. What's the difference between first of all, what's the difference between the two figures you're Speaker 300:16:08quoting? Yes. So one of those numbers includes is a consolidated view and the other one is post divestitures. So it's kind of on a what we call an operating revenue perspective. So that's on a go forward basis. Speaker 400:16:24So the $1,900,000,000 excludes the impact of the divestitures? Speaker 200:16:29That is correct. That's current operating volume. Speaker 400:16:35Got you. Speaker 200:16:36And then on the So it's more collective of our current activities. Speaker 400:16:40Got you. Helpful. Thank you a lot. And then the increase in average revenue per funeral contract, how does that break out between traditional funeral and a cremation? Speaker 200:16:52Yes, absolutely. We had for the Q1 an increase on burial contract of 3.2% and on cremation contract of 4.5%, totaling 4% for all total contract improvement on our pricing. Speaker 400:17:09Good. That's helpful. And then again, just to dig into that comment that you made, Carlos, that March was the most significant decline year over year in volume year to date. And I know we're still dealing with the headwind of the COVID pull forward effect. And you had previously said that's going to kind of be present for the full year. Speaker 400:17:39Do you expect that, that will diminish in the coming quarters? And then for the full year, do you expect volumes to be comparable to last year's volumes? Speaker 200:17:52Yes. So great question, Alex. So what we experienced is January February had a little elevated death rate potentially from some flu seasons or something related to more deaths than we were expecting, because we're expecting a little bit more of a decline on a volume year over year perspective or basis. However, March came a little slower than we thought on volume. And so that's why we wanted to just be mindful. Speaker 200:18:18Our projection is to continue to have a slow decline on volume throughout the rest of the year, progressively down through the Q4. So we are around 1.9% right now. We believe by December, we should be just maybe 50 basis points or around those lines. That's our hope and projections. We'll see a margin between 1% to 2%, but we're continuing to work through market share gains to continue to make up if we can and where we can for whatever volume we lose from post COVID-nineteen normalization. Speaker 400:18:57Got you. And then related to the divestitures completed in the Q1, I think you had previously said the impact is $5,500,000 to revenue and $1,500,000 to EBITDA. And then you've got proceeds of roughly $11,000,000 for those. Are those all pretty much in line where you had expected them to be? And I realize that that's already included in the full year guidance. Speaker 300:19:25That's correct, Alex. So this is Keyon. So what we did is when we were looking at the upcoming year and our 2024 guidance, we had already eliminated, as you mentioned, the $5,500,000 of revenue and $1,500,000 of EBITDA. So our 2024 guidance is already reflective of that adjustment out. Speaker 400:19:42Okay. And then are there others that you think might represent similar characteristics in terms of being a non core asset ripe for divestiture in 2024? Speaker 100:19:56Yes. So, Alex, this is Steve. We've got a couple of things we're working on now that are real estate transactions solely, so nothing big on the business front. We'll continue to take a look at opportunities. When we do that, we weigh everything, including potential impact to our effective tax rate. Speaker 100:20:11So as those things come through the door, we'll take a look at them, but nothing right now of substance to report. Speaker 400:20:21Got you. And then the last question I have for now is on debt. You paid down $25,000,000 on the credit line. You're at roughly $153,000,000 now. Your leverage ratio is 4.99. Speaker 400:20:38I think you had a year end target of 4.75. Are all those still in line with your thinking? Speaker 300:20:46Yes. So we feel comfortable landing within that kind of 4.75x to 5x range. We've kind of done our model analysis and kind of looked at the scenarios and just based on various factors on performance and Steve mentioned the potential divestitures of non core assets, we're going to land comfortably within that 4.75 times to 5 times range. Speaker 200:21:07And then I think Speaker 400:21:08a longer term target is 3.5% to 4%. When do you expect to kind of fall within that range, the end of 2025 or do you have a target? Speaker 300:21:20Yes. So as we just kind of look at our next milestones, as we look at kind of year end 2020 5, the next milestone for us is getting to 4.5x where interest rate spread decreases significantly by 125 basis points and then getting down to 4.25 times where we can kind of get back into acquisition mode. And we kind of anticipate getting into that level by the back half of twenty twenty five And then getting kind of below that 4 times is probably as we turn the corner going into 2026 is when we kind of realistically expect to kind of get to that level. Speaker 400:21:57Great. Thank you. That's all great color. I'll get back into the queue. Thanks. Speaker 200:22:02Thank you, Alex. Operator00:22:05We'll go next to Liam Burke with B. Riley. Speaker 500:22:09Thank you. Good morning, Carlos, Steve and Keyan. Speaker 200:22:12Good morning, Liam. Good morning, Liam. Speaker 500:22:15I just need clarification on an earlier question. 3.5% and contract revenue for cremation up 4.5%? Speaker 200:22:333.2% on burial, 4.5% on cremation. Speaker 500:22:37And that's on a year over year basis, okay. Yes. Okay. Hopping over to your momentum in preneed sales, have you fully staffed the sales force or can we expect further build out an additional momentum here? Speaker 200:22:54I believe we'll continue to experience sustainable momentum throughout the year. You have Harry Munson and others, as you know, Qingming, which is a huge Asian celebration, starts in March, continues through April. And then you have summer, which are a little bit more difficult due to the summer vacation time. A lot of families are not home. But over on a year over year basis, we should be able to continue to experience significant growth on preneed cemetery sales, including property and merchant services. Speaker 200:23:25They have done an incredible job. We slowed a little bit of momentum middle year last year, mainly because we upgraded a few of our sales leadership in the cemeteries. That took place last year, the development of those leaders, the activity leading up to the level of activity we need to deliver this type of sales have been in place since then and the strategy and plan to continue this momentum is in place. So we feel very encouraged that between the leadership team we have in place led by Shane Pudenz, in addition to our CRM and marketing efforts for lead generation, we'll continue to grow over the next few quarters. Speaker 500:24:03Great. Thank you. And getting back acquisitions, I know you stated that where your leverage level would be, where you'd be comfortable to ramp up acquisitions. But is there anything that you would see over the transom between now and then? Speaker 100:24:18That's a good question, Lee. I mean, actually timely. So we just spent some time last week with a business that we're interested in partnering with when the time is right. And so just keeping those relationships active is important to us and a key focus that we continue to look at while we continue to pay down our debt. So we keep those conversations flowing and make sure that people are up to date on where Carriage is and we'll continue to do that until we get to 4.25. Speaker 500:24:45Great. Thank you. Speaker 200:24:49Thank you, Liam. Operator00:24:52We'll go next to George Kelly with ROTH MKM. Speaker 600:24:57Hey, everybody. Thanks for taking my questions. Speaker 300:25:01Good morning, George. Maybe I'll Speaker 600:25:04start with just a quick follow-up to the comments in the prepared remarks and then I think there was a question earlier, but just to follow-up on the trend you saw in volume through the quarter. I'm curious if you could comment on what you've seen so far in April. And then secondly, same topic is, if you were to compare the January February volume growth that you saw with March, I think you said it turned negative in March. I'm just curious how great that difference was between sort of where you started and where you ended the quarter? Speaker 200:25:43Yes. It was about 200 basis points variance between January, February and then compare that to March, which is within the range. And it's just that March happens to be a very large month for us, typically coming from pre intermediary sales. So we made up some of it through it. But from a funeral volume perspective, it was enough for us to kind of like pay attention. Speaker 200:26:03As it relates to your question on April, it remains on the same line. The really good news is that our efforts on enhancement to our pricing strategy continues to deliver great momentum. And we continue to have that ability to make up, if not all, a significant amount of that declining volume. That in addition to our continued integration of our most recent acquisition, which is Greenlawn, which as you know, have 3 funeral homes that are continuing to perform better and better as we continue to integrate them into our company. Speaker 600:26:38Okay. Thank you. And then next question is on the 4 wall, the pricing and cost efficiency measures that you're sort of working through the system. I'm curious with respect to each one, if you were to take pricing on one side and cost efficiencies on the other on the 4 wall and the funeral side, like what inning are you in each of those initiatives? Speaker 200:27:04Yes. So even though we had a very significant bump on pricing in December and then now reflected on our Q1 of this year, we just launched in last month really what it is our new strategic pricing review, which is going to be reviewed by business on a quarterly basis. And the intention of this review is not to increase price just for the sake of increasing price. It is to have a conversation with our leaders in the field who know best the communities, the competition, the right pricing for the businesses and of course what type of merchandise they need to be selling. However, the review does have a significant amount of information that in reflection to the performance of the previous month or quarter should be able to lead them to best decisions. Speaker 200:27:52And also, it's not just about price increase. It's about strategies to continue to present better to families, presenting all options to every single family so they can have a very comprehensive and customized life of celebration to each one of their loved ones. And so it's a combination of the 2, right? Strategic review process, a very thoughtful data analytic process, plus how can we become better at presenting to families to elevate our average revenue per contract. That's on the pricing side. Speaker 200:28:27As it relates to cost, which was the second part of your question, we have been able to do a lot of good work in getting our costs down. We have mentioned in the past that some of the things we want to do with Carriage is find that fine balance between the Empower partnership as per our purpose statement and decentralization and our ability to maximize our scale. And so we are continuing to centralize some of the items that are not influencing the market leader ability to grow market share, to continue to establish relationships in the community and continue to grow their brand locally. And we're continuing to think about those things in terms of whether it's utilities, whether it's IT decisions, whether it's HR related centralization options. But what we are very encouraged by right now, we have started a full blown process to review our supply chain and procurement practices that will lead to some significant benefit as soon as we finish that process. Speaker 200:29:33That will include negotiation with vendors, how we elect vendors moving forward, our payment terms with each one of them and of course discounts and rebates that may benefit and will benefit the company moving forward. So very, very excited about where we are on a stage on cost initiatives, but even more excited about what's to come from that perspective. Speaker 600:29:58And would you anticipate seeing the benefits of that exercise you're going through right now in the next maybe by year end or when would that start to hit? Speaker 200:30:09I believe some will be realized before the end of the year and some will take a little bit more time. They're more comprehensive, a larger scope and most likely will be realized in 2025. But there'll be some low hanging fruit that we have already identified and are starting to quantify. Most likely, we should be able to share some of that on our Q2 release that will be realized during 2024. Speaker 600:30:31Okay. And then just one last quick one for me. Steve, you mentioned that there's potentially some real estate that you guys are considering monetizing. Can you share a little more detail on what that could look like? And I'm assuming that there's no revenue tied to that or maybe that's an unfair assumption anymore. Speaker 600:30:49And I guess the magnitude of could that be larger, smaller than the divestitures that you've already completed so far this year? Thanks. Speaker 100:30:59Yes, it's a great question, George. So on the real estate front, from time to time, we will recognize that we've got a business that quite frankly sits on very valuable real estate that is more valuable than what that business is. And so once we run the numbers on that to see if there's any way to kind of bridge the gap between that value, we'll make a determination if it makes sense to try and market that real estate. It's not often. We don't have a lot of these opportunities, but we do have a few and we're working on one right now that it's going to be a 7 figure proceeds transaction for us whenever we're able to finalize it. Speaker 100:31:37So again, not something I would say is frequent for us, but we do take a look at that from time to time to make sure we're aware of what those real estate values look like. Generally, when we're looking at those opportunities, it is in a market where we can then funnel those calls to a nearby business. So we're not losing out on any of the business when we sell the real estate. Speaker 600:31:58Understand. Thanks. Operator00:32:38This does conclude the question and answer portion of today's call. At this time, I would like to turn the call over to Carlos for any closing remarks. Speaker 200:32:49Thank you for joining. As we conclude our call today, I want to express our gratitude for your continued support and belief in our vision and purpose statement. Our strong performance this quarter is a clear indication that our strategic initiatives and 5 year objectives are right on track. We're confident that these efforts will continue to enhance performance in the future, driving sustained growth and creating added shareholder value. Thank you and have a great day.Read morePowered by