Haleon Q1 2024 TU Earnings Call Transcript

There are 13 speakers on the call.

Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the Halion Q1 2024 Trading Update Conference Call. I am Dorvin, the Chorus Call operator. I would like to remind you that all participants will be in the listen only mode and the conference is being recorded. The presentation will be followed by a Q and A session. The conference must not be recorded for publication or broadcast.

Operator

At this time, it is my pleasure to hand over the conference to Sonia Gabriel, Head of Investor Relations. Please go ahead, madam.

Speaker 1

Thanks very much. Good morning, everyone, and welcome to Helion's Q1 trading statement conference call. I'm Sonia Goebriel, Head of Investor Relations, and I'm joined this morning by Tobias Hessler, our Chief Financial Officer.

Speaker 2

Just to remind listeners

Speaker 1

on the that in the discussions today, the company may make certain forward looking statements, including those that refer to our estimates, plans and expectations. Please refer to this morning's announcement and the company's U. K. And SEC filings for more details, including factors that could lead actual results to differ materially from those expressed in or implied by any such forward looking statements. As usual, we'll take you through some prepared remarks before opening the call to Q and A.

Speaker 1

For those listening to our webcast who'd like to ask a question, please use the dial in details on Page 3 of today's release. Also, while the focus today is on revenue performance, we've also provided group profit margin detail on both the reported and an adjusted basis, with a full reconciliation including once in organic revenue growth in the appendix. As a reminder and for information, we do not intend to provide quarterly profit data on an ongoing basis and will only do this for as long as Pfizer reports our results as part of its financial statements and until our registration rights agreement with Pfizer terminates. With that, I'd like to hand the call over to Tobias.

Speaker 3

Thank you, Sonja, and good morning, everyone. Let me first start with our highlights for the quarter. We had a solid start to the year with 3% organic revenue growth, driven by 5% price and volume mix down 2%. Positive volume mix in EMEA LATAM and APAC was offset by a decline in North America. However, whilst growth was held back in the U.

Speaker 3

S. From inventory adjustments by some retailers, Halion's consumption in the U. S. Was up mid single digit and ahead of the market. Adjusted operating profit of GBP707,000,000 was up 12.8% on an organic basis with gross profit up 5% organically, funding strong growth in A and P.

Speaker 3

As pricing is normalizing and cost inflation easing, combined with our productivity program, you can see that our growth algorithm is delivering even in a low growth quarter and it's enabling increased reinvestment. We've made continued progress in the evolution of Halion to become more agile and competitive and we're now seeing the results of the productivity program announced last year. We also should hear it in today's release the proposed closure of our main head manufacturing facility, transferring production into our Levitsa site in Slovakia over the next 2 years, an important step in Helion building a more efficient global supply chain. As a reminder, with our full year results in February, we announced that we expect to allocate GBP 500,000,000 to share buybacks in 2024. To date, we have purchased GBP 102,000,000 ordinary shares for approximately GBP 315,000,000 The solid start to the year gives us confidence in delivering our full year 2024 guidance as stated in our release this morning.

Speaker 3

So let's look in more detail at our Q1 results. Revenue of $2,900,000,000 reflect 3% organic revenue growth. Our strong organic profit growth resulted in 24.2% margin, up 110 basis points on a reported basis and up 220 basis points organically. Turning to Slide 6. Coming back to organic revenue, we had guided that Q1 revenue would be just below the lower end on our 4% to 6% full year organic growth guidance range.

Speaker 3

However, in this quarter, we also saw some inventory adjustments in the U. S. Resulting in volume mix a little weaker than expected. Overall, volume mix declined 2% with EMEA and LATAM returning to volume growth after 2 quarters of volume decline. Asia Pacific also saw positive volume mix despite lapping tough prior year comparatives in China following the end of COVID-nineteen lockdowns.

Speaker 3

And although North America volume mix was down, consumption was good, reiterating healthy demand for our brands. Price was up 5% and included both. Carry forward price from last year as well as incremental pricing taken during the quarter. Going forward, we expect the carry forward benefit to reduce a little through the year. Organic revenue growth was more than offset by a 460 basis points adverse impact from translational foreign exchange.

Speaker 3

Year on year sterling strength relative to the dollar and Chinese renminbi were the main drivers. Given how FX rates evolved through 2023, we always expected the impact of foreign exchange to be most pronounced in the Q1. Therefore, no change to our full year outlook. Net M and A was minimal and reduced revenue by 0.6%. Looking now at performance across our category.

Speaker 3

I was particularly pleased that oral health revenues grew 10.6% with Sensodyne, ParaDontax and polygroup polidant all up double digit further building on last year's strong performance. This was underpinned by a number of successful innovations such as Sensodyne Clinical White, scientifically proven to whiten teeth by 2 shades without worsening or causing sensitivity. VMS revenue grew 9.9 percent continuing momentum from Q4 2023 and demonstrating our brands remain well positioned and continue to outperform. Calfrac was up double digit with strong growth in China. Strong Centrum growth was underpinned by performance in North America and continued activation of cognitive function claims for Centrum Silver.

Speaker 3

Emergency grew mid single digit, gaining share and outperforming the immunity category in the U. S. Pain relief revenue declined 4.88%, mainly reflecting tough comparative from Q1 2023 with Fenvid in China and also Advil declined double digit, partly due to elevated demand in Canada last year as well as inventory adjustments by some U. S. Retailers.

Speaker 3

Panadol declined low single digits driven by a softer performance in Asia Pacific given the decline in Australia and Voltaren grew mid single digit with strength in Europe. As expected, respiratory revenues were down, lapping the strong prior year comparative. In Q1, 2023 from contact in China as well as the prior year rebuild of inventories mainly in the U. S. Given lower levels at the end of 2022 when cold and flu incidents spiked late in the year.

Speaker 3

Finally, Digestive Health and Other revenue increased 2.4% with Digestive Health and Skin Health up low single digit, smokers health declined low single digit. Turning to regional performance. Emerging markets, which are 36% of revenue saw 7.7% organic revenue growth with the benefit from pricing and hyperinflation economies now kept. And we spotted China being down low single digit. Developed markets grew 0.5% organically.

Speaker 3

Looking at each region in more detail starting with North America. Organic revenue declined 3.3% with positive price up 4.5% and volume mix down 7.8%. Our health grew mid single digits driven by Sensodyne. VMS was up double digits and pain relief and respiratory health both declined due to challenging comparatives and inventory management by some U. S.

Speaker 3

Retailers. Let me take you through this in a bit more detail. Whilst some inventory management is expected through the quarters, this quarter was a little unusual. You will remember that the cold and flu season had an early and strong spike in Q4 2022, very much towards the end of the year. And this resulted in restocking of depleted inventories in Q1 of 2023.

Speaker 3

Normally, what we would expect and what we saw in Q1 this year was destocking in the quarter as retailers sell out stock and reduce inventories towards the end of the season. As a result of this and given the comparative, there was a much higher than usual year on year change in selentine resulting in the majority of the volume decline seen in the region. Additionally, and to a lesser extent, we saw some inventory adjustments by some U. S. Retailers on other categories, which also impacted sell in.

Speaker 3

However, looking at consumption data from the market, our consumption increased mid single digit and both the market and Halion performance improved in Q1 compared to the last 12 months. More importantly, Heidone outperformed the market, both in value and volume demonstrating consumer demand for our brands remains healthy. Turning to Europe, Middle East Africa and Latin America. Organic revenue increased 8.6% with 7.5% price and 1.1% growth in volume mix. Pricing partly benefited from carry forward from 2023 and also the benefit of incremental pricing taken in the Q1.

Speaker 3

Volumemix was positive despite some offset from a decline in Middle East and Africa. Across the categories, our health saw double digit growth driven by all 3 power brands. VMS increased mid single digit with good growth in both Centrum as well as local brands. Pain relief in the region saw mid single digit growth, reflecting good growth from Voltaren and respiratory sales increased mid single digits despite lapping a challenging prior year comparative. Finally, turning to Asia Pacific.

Speaker 3

Organic revenue increased 3.3% evenly balanced between price 1.7% and volume mix of 1.6%, a really good performance, particularly given the expected decline in China in Q1. Within the categories, oral health saw double digit growth underpinned by strong growth across key markets including China and India. In VMS, we saw high single digit growth underpinned by health rate. Respiratory health grew high single digits, despite the challenging comparative and pain relief declined. Turning now to our operating performance.

Speaker 3

We delivered $707,000,000 of adjusted operating profit, an increase of $16,000,000 Solid revenue growth with pricing, easing of inflationary cost pressure and efficiencies from the productivity program allowed us to strongly invest into the business and into A and P. Net M and A

Speaker 4

had a

Speaker 3

negative impact of $12,000,000 and was a 30 basis points drag on adjusted operating margin. Finally, there was a €59,000,000 or 80 basis points adverse impact from translational foreign exchange. This mainly reflected movements against the U. S. Dollar and Chinese renminbi.

Speaker 3

Taken together, this resulted in a 2.3% increase in adjusted operating profit and 24.2% margin. Remember, as you've seen in prior years, the quarters are very volatile and as such neither the Q1 absolute margin nor the organic profit growth should be extrapolated for the full year. We continue to evolve and implement change across the business to become a more agile and competitive organization. The productivity program is delivering the expected savings and is funding increased investment in the business and driving growth. In addition, we announced plans for the proposed closure of our manufacturing facility Maidenhead, which is expected to result in a total restructuring cost of around GBP 90,000,000 over the next 2 years, the majority of which is non cash.

Speaker 3

There is no change to lemicelle and ChapStick impact, which I guided at with the full year results, but I can confirm that we expect ChapStick to close in May 2024. Also in the quarter, we completed a share buyback of 315,000,000 for GBP 102,000,000 ordinary shares, all of which were subsequently canceled, reducing the number of shares issued by circa 1.1%. This was part of the GBP 500,000,000 share buyback we expect to complete in 2024 announced with our full year results. The expected impact of translation FX remains unchanged with an adverse impact of 2% on full year 2024 revenue and 3% on adjusted operating profit. This assumes rates as of the 31 March 24 holds for the rest of the year.

Speaker 3

All other full year 2024 guidance remains unchanged. So to sum it up, Halion delivered a solid Q1 performance despite lapping challenging comparative. We delivered organic profit growth ahead of organic revenue growth benefiting from improved gross profit as well as efficiencies in the business. Our business is evolving as we implement change to improve agility in our competitiveness. Finally, following Q1, I remain confident that we are well placed to deliver on our full year guidance.

Speaker 3

Before we move to Q and A, I wanted to briefly say a few words on my own personal news from last week. As you will have seen, I'll be leaving Helion at the end of the year. It wasn't an easy decision to make, but I'm really proud of the strong foundations we've built and what we have achieved. It's been an amazing period, both professionally and personally. I was very open about wanting and needing to create more balance in my life, not least because as you get older, managing type 1 diabetes becomes more and more important.

Speaker 3

So that's been a driving factor in my decision. I'll be focusing on advisory and non executive work from next year, which is an exciting new phase for me. You also have seen, we announced that Donald Allen, currently the CFO of Tate and Lyle will be joining at the end of October to succeed me. He is an exceptional leader and will bring deep consumer and international experience to the business. Helion is in good hands.

Speaker 3

In the meantime, it's very much business as usual. I'll be leading us to Q3 and then working with Don for a couple of months hands over before leaving at the end of the year. Anyway, with that, let's now move to Q and A. And I will hand back to the operator to open up for questions.

Operator

Thank you. We will now begin the question and answer session. First question from the line of rasath kavan with Morgan Stanley. Please go ahead.

Speaker 5

Hey, good morning, Sonia and Tobias. Thanks for taking my questions and congrats Tobias on all that you've achieved at Halion. So couple of questions from me please. First from a volume mix perspective, I guess you shouldn't have much noise in Q2 outside of the cold and flu dynamics in China and North America should be clean. So is it fair to assume that we should expect vol mix to be positive for the remaining three quarters?

Speaker 5

And in terms of pricing, notice obviously some more incremental pricing being taken, which is consistent with what you've said at the full year. Are you broadly done for the year or is there more selective pricing to take? And then just second question on the Maidenhead facility if I can. How should we think about the phasing of the $90,000,000 restructuring over the next 2 years and what level of cost savings are you expecting? Thank you.

Speaker 3

Great. Thanks. Hi, Rajat. Thank you. Thank you very much.

Speaker 3

So let me start with your volume on Q2. So in Q2, as you mentioned, there's still the noise or prior impact on Fenbit in the base. So and remember last year for Fenbit, China went into their 2nd wave of COVID infection. So it was actually the impact on Fenbit in Q2 was bigger than in Q1. So that is pretty much what's left in the base.

Speaker 3

I think all the respiratory swing, also the U. S. Swing is a base effect that impacted Q1 that is behind us. On your question for volume for the year, I think we're confident in volume growth for the year. I'm not going to guide to the quarter, but you would say, you know, would expect from that the big gap is behind us from the base that you see an improving trend from Q1 forward.

Speaker 3

Then on pricing, so overall, I think very pleased with the pricing how it started. I think very much on track what I had guided for the full year, where I said that from a price volume mix 2024 is a stepping stone. And also said we wouldn't be at a fifty-fifty mix between price volume in 2020 4. So I think we're going to get back to that, but not in 2024. So last year, as I remember, 15% was volume driven, 85% was price driven, 24% should be a stepping stone to more balance, but not the balance yet.

Speaker 3

We've taken the majority of the pricing in Europe. So I mean, for example, European retailers, you do that once a year. So most of these negotiations have completed and we're very much on track on what we expected. But then of course, we have countries like in the U. S.

Speaker 3

Where we take pricing not at a given time in the year, but you try and do pricing together when shelf resets are done. So we will see how the situation evolves and you might see pricing here or there come through. And of course, in the emerging markets, we take pricing on a more regular basis to be aligned with that. And then on Maidenhead, so the SEK 90,000,000, I mean, it's largely non cash. I would assume probably roughly half and half for 2024 and 2025.

Speaker 3

I mean 2024 is mainly the write down of the assets and then you would have the severance cost roll through a bit later on. The savings are incremental to the €300,000,000 productivity program And they'll start to come over the next 2 years as we ship production to Levitsche and 3rd parties as well. So thank you.

Operator

Thank you very much. Thank you. Next question comes from Guillaume Delmas with UBS. Please go ahead.

Speaker 6

Good morning, Tobias and Sonia. I've got 2 questions. The first one is on the volume contraction in Q1 in North America. Tobias, could you maybe provide a bit more granularity on how much of this Q1 weakness in North America was attributable to Advil in Canada to the last year's unusual reordering pattern in the U. S.

Speaker 6

And then this unexpected from the sound of it inventory reduction in the quarter. And I guess related to this, I would expect the first two factors, so Advair Canada and last year's unusual ordering pattern to be a non factor in Q2. But do you expect further inventory adjustment affecting your Q2 performance? Or do you think retailers' stock levels in the U. S.

Speaker 6

Are now quite low or at least healthy? So any indications on when sell in and sell out should be a bit more aligned would be helpful. And then my second question is on your gross margin improvement in the Q1 because it was quite significant despite what I would think was negative mix with OTC down, negative volumes, FX headwinds. So what were the key drivers behind this improvement? And would it be fair to assume that mix, FX, operational leverage should all improve at the gross margin level going forward?

Speaker 6

And if so, is your current mindset that most of this gross margin benefit should be reinvested, particularly in the A and P spend? Thank you very much.

Speaker 3

Thanks, Guillaume. So let me talk to volume on the volume point first. So as I said in my remarks before, the majority and the large majority of the volume decline in North America is driven by the two things you mentioned, which is the Advair Canada and in the U. S. It is the swing between an inventory burn normal this year an inventory build unusual last year.

Speaker 3

So that's the vast majority of the swing. And as a result, that is in the base and will not repeat going forward. So I think from that point of view, we know we're leaving that behind us. Then as you said, there were some additional and as I mentioned, there were some additional inventory adjustments by some retailers that impacted other categories. Look, I think what we've been seeing is that retailers are focusing more on working capital.

Speaker 3

I mean, when you look at the drug channel, clearly, their overall situation, that doesn't surprise you that you focus more also on the cash side, on the working capital. And also I think what we've seen over the last 6 to 9 months is that the supply chain is not just for us, but in general are much, much more stabilizing, volumes are much more stabilizing. So I think that allows you to better and improve your inventory management and that's what we've seen retailers do, right. It's very hard to predict what they're going to do, because they're not going to tell you exactly what they're doing. So I can't tell you if this is all done.

Speaker 3

We're watching it very tightly. What I can say is that at the moment, we're having about 1 week less of inventory compared to what we have seen historically. So I never felt the inventory was too high at least compared to historical trends and it's about 1 week lower than what I've experienced in the past. So I think it's in a pretty normal level from what I can say, but we'll keep you updated on it. But look most importantly, I think is really the U.

Speaker 3

S. Consumption. It was strong. I mean, we're growing mid single digit. We're outgrowing all the categories that we're playing in, in the U.

Speaker 3

S. And also we see the market a bit improving in the U. S. I mean the market was in quite a bit of volume decline last year, which I had shared a full year. It's now still in a small volume decline, but we've been growing volume in that market, which I think speaks to the performance of our brands and our execution in the market that is moving in the right direction.

Speaker 3

Then let me move to your gross margin improvement. So as you say, I mean, we had a strong start to the year. Gross margin improved by about 100 a bit more than 100 basis points, which is great of a combination of easing inflation, if the pricing coming through and the efficiencies we're driving. Mix isn't really a factor, Guillaume. I think, Ora Health has done very well.

Speaker 3

Ora Health has very similar margins to OTC. So that helps us carry through over 10% increase in oral care us especially on very premiumized products like the ones we have launched as well. Now also take a look back at last year, last year Q1 was the quarter when we took the biggest hit because we had exactly the opposite effects happening last year. We still had the impact of increasing inflation that then from the second half of the year that really came through to the P and L in Q1, coupled with not all the pricing yet being in place. So I think you see a bit the offsetting effect.

Speaker 3

As we have said, we believe gross margin will improve for the full year, very much on track with that. We've done that in Q4. So in Q4, it came up 70 bps. We've had another gross margin improvement in Q1, but of course, then by the end of the year, we'll also start cycling over that a little bit. And then yes, absolutely, intent is to continue to invest in A and P.

Speaker 3

We've increased A and P, invest strongly in Q1. And we intend to do that going forward to really capitalize on the opportunities we have in the market and also to drive continued growth for the rest of the year and that gives us confidence in the 4% to 6% outlook. Thank you.

Speaker 6

Thank you very much.

Operator

Thank you. The next question comes from David Hayes from Jefferies. Please go ahead.

Speaker 7

Hi, good morning all. I'm going to have one follow-up and two questions if I can. Just following up, you mentioned the fifty-fifty A mid term on price volume. I think you said forty-sixty percent is what you were thinking roughly when you talked at the full year stage. So just a question whether that's what you did say and whether that's changed at all based on what you've seen in the Q1?

Speaker 7

And then the two questions are on the Maidenhead closure, two things on that. I don't think, and as I missed it, apologies, that you quantified the savings from that closure. But also, is this part of a bigger plan that's going on in terms of a supply chain savings initiative beyond the €300,000,000,000 as you talked about under the new supply chain head. Should we expect more of these kind of announcements to come over the next couple of years? And is that something you could maybe quantify roughly as additional savings over the next couple of years?

Speaker 7

And then the final one for me, just in terms of the price increases in the quarter, was there any pre buying at all ahead of price increases through the period? And were those price increases across the regions or was it mostly focused in Europe? And again, apologies if I missed that. Thanks so much.

Speaker 3

Sure. Thanks, David. So on your follow-up question, right. I mean, what I've always said pricing and volume is about half and half. So it could be 40, 60 or it could be 60, 40 in 1 in a year, right?

Speaker 3

It depends on when do you take volume and when do you take price, right? So I would say anything that is between $40,000,000 $60,000,000 in either year, in either direction is sort of the approximate balance between the 2, right? It's not an accurate fifty-fifty balance, but somewhere in between those two. And that's what we have seen historically. And I think we're going to get back to this broad balance over probably the next 2 years or so.

Speaker 3

But thanks for the clarifying question on that. On Maidenhead, so first of all, the savings are incremental. We're not specifying them, but I think there are good savings. I mean, it's a site with 4.30 people in Europe. We're shifting that to a much bigger site in Levice in Slovakia, which is our key manufacturing side for oral care products.

Speaker 3

And as a result, it will have a very fast payback on the one time costs or the cash costs that are associated with that. We're doing that. I mean, pretty much, I mean, we said that I think when we even at the Capital Markets Day that there will be a phase where I think we're going to make highly on and we're in the middle of this and more agile and more competitive company. And that is part of that, that we look at where our opportunities to make this a business and where can we free up where can we free up resources to then reinvest in the business and with that to accelerate growth. So it's part of this program.

Speaker 3

But I think given it's incremental to the $300,000,000,000 productivity program, we also announced that separately. So you see that there is additional benefits that we're delivering, but also against the incremental one time costs that are coming through, yes. And then on price increases, we do not tend to see massive forward buying and also we try and limit that, right. And I think also don't forget a lot of our sales are to a lot of individual pharmacies and customers. So there isn't so I've not seen any trends on that.

Speaker 3

I think most and you've seen most of the pricing was taken in Europe. The pricing in the U. S. Is taken at different times throughout the year. And then APAC also, I think, DOC has a much lower inflation environment and also the pricing was lower.

Speaker 3

But I think so no concerns about anything spike from pricing increases. That does not tend to be the case in our business. Great. Thank you.

Operator

Thank you. The next question comes from the line of Ian Simpson, Barclays. Please go ahead.

Speaker 8

Thank you very much. A couple of questions from me. But Tobias, very sorry to hear the news of your departure at the end of this year and the support you've given the analyst community since then will be much missed. So quick questions for me, if I can. Firstly, just thinking about the moving parts going into Q2, I think you've got a slightly tougher comp in China, but clearly a significantly easier U.

Speaker 8

S. Comp. Would it be reasonable to expect Q2 being back in that 4% to 6% medium term range then? And just as a kind of adjunct to that, I think you made a comment about where inventory levels were versus pre COVID, but I wasn't clear if inventory levels were a week more or a week less than they were pre COVID. So any clarification there would be very helpful.

Speaker 8

And then secondly, just looking at oral care and VMS, 10% growth in the clean parts of your business is pretty impressive. I wondered if you could provide any color as to how much of that 10% was pricing that we might expect to see sort of fade a bit as the year progresses? And how much of that 10% was volume growth from all the usual stuff of share gain and rolling out into white space and innovation and all those things? Thanks very much.

Speaker 3

Thanks, Ian. And thanks very much for the initial comment. Appreciate that. But we'll have 8 months together celebrate and toast and we'll see each other along the way. So I think that's the time for that.

Speaker 3

But going back to business, so it's 1 week less of inventory than what we had historically seen. So I think right now when I look at my week of stock coverage, it is 1 week down. So that means 1 week less in the sitting in the retailers and in the store compared to where it was historically. And what we what I've experienced for a very, very long, long time, which gives me a bit of confidence that I don't think it's overstock. But clearly, as I said, retailers are now more focusing on it where they are.

Speaker 3

So we'll keep you updating on it as we track this. You can imagine we track this very tightly with our retailers. On the moving parts in Q2, so I think you mentioned, right, tougher comp in China to cycle over and easier comp much easier comp in the U. S. So I think clearly an improving trend from Q1, but I don't want to get into guiding for quarterly growth rates.

Speaker 3

I think ultimately, you should take some comfort into us having very much confirmed our 4% to 6% guidance for the year. And then look, thanks for also asking a question on the stuff that's going great. So oral care really good quarter with 10.6% growth. What's driven that partly was driven by the launches we have, so really strong innovation come through. And that is on top of innovation we have pretty much a year ago.

Speaker 3

So I think last year, we launched PRONAML ActiveShield in the U. S. Also in Q1. We now had a big another big innovation within 12 months. I mean, the normal thing is probably 18 or so.

Speaker 3

So I think we got 2 big innovations through. Of course, there's still growth coming from that innovation that we launched a year ago. So that continues to go well. And then of course, now we launched on top Sensodyne clinical wide and also taking that to other markets. So there's a bit of selling and piping impact on that.

Speaker 3

But and then overall, I think, look, no, it was both. It was volume and it was price and it was more volume than price for oral care. And I think it's just a combination of launches, good execution. And then also I think Denture Care is still benefiting from the innovations we had in the last 12 months in that business too. So it's like now I think all the 3 big brands really firing from all cylinders, which is of course great to see.

Speaker 3

And then look on the EMS, I mean, we've always said very consistently that we believe this is a category that is growing. The category growth is now back to mid single digits, so in Q1, so which you always said it would. And then we also said, we believe our brands are doing well and are well positioned in that. And that is exactly what happened in Q1. By the way, very similar to the numbers I shared at full year, right, when I shared with you the sell out on the 3 brands.

Speaker 3

And of course, very much as expected, the drag from emergency on the vitamin C category has now ended. So you have all the 3 brands going well. We got a little bit of help in China with the competitor that had some supply issues. So the team was able to capitalize on that. But in aggregate, I think really good performance and it's a mid single digit growth category that we're playing in and we're outperforming that category.

Speaker 3

And that's where we would love to see that. I hope I answered all your questions.

Speaker 8

You did. You did. Thank you very much.

Speaker 3

Thanks, Ian. Appreciate it. Thank you.

Operator

Thank you. We now have a question from the line of Bruno Montien from Bernstein. Please go ahead.

Speaker 9

Hi, good morning Tobias. We hear a bit less these days about the Voltaren and the growth rates and Nestle, I think they were historically, but together with oral and VMS, as you just discussed, it should be one of those engines that pulls Aimmune forward. Is there a need for more innovation in Voltaren, is something like that coming like you've done with Sensodyne and new product varieties? Can you comment on that? The second one, I think you did talk about A and P being up, but I'm not sure if you quantified as a percentage of sales, how much is it up?

Speaker 9

Is it comparable to the increase in gross margin that you talked about as a percent of sales for the group? And last but not least, I think there is still some hope or expectations for direct to the Sunshine Cream to land in the U. S. I think in quarter 4 is that on track and is that sort of set with some good additional volume growth towards the back end of the year because of the usual run rate. Thank you.

Speaker 3

Thanks, Moser. Under your last question, I didn't get the topic. So could you just repeat the third one, the other 2 I got here?

Speaker 9

Yes. The erectile dysfunction cream that you meant to launch in

Speaker 6

the U.

Speaker 9

S, I think at the end of the year is that on track and we still expect some good volume from

Speaker 3

that. Perfect. I didn't hear the ED cream. That is good. Thank you.

Speaker 3

I got it. So look, let me start with Valsparin. So mid single digit growth, brands in growth, always we said, it's a brand that topical pain relief usually, if there's a lot of cold and flu going around, people take a lot of Panadol or Advil, then they use a bit less topicals. I think now also that stabilizing usually gives us a bit of a benefit on Voltaren. So it's been an offset in the portfolio.

Speaker 3

With that, so I think pleased to see the performance being good on Voltaire in the quarter. From an innovation point of view, I think given its OTC, these have much slower innovation cycles. I mean, the last big innovation cycle we did with Voltaren was the double strength or extra strength formulation, which I think is now nearly every buyer in the world, but not fully. So there's a few more markets to go with that. These innovation cycles take a bit longer.

Speaker 3

So I mean, it took us 8 or 9 years to roll this out globally, whereas an innovation like in oral care, you get rolled out probably within 12 months or 18 months across the world, at least to the markets where it makes sense to have that innovation. Of course, what's happening on both higher end is in smaller innovations on packaging sizes as well. So I would always expect much less innovation in the OTC brands and then the continued fast paced innovation in oral care and also in the VMS, which I think we're both delivering. On A and P, we specified as the trading update. We carefully use the word strong after taking guidance from Sonya of strong means.

Speaker 3

She told me all of you will be able to translate that and it means more than sales growth because sales growth was solid. And also I think we reinvested a good part of the gross margin expansion back into A and P. So I think really executing on what we promised we would do there. And then on the Aeroxone, the Ericyle dysfunction cream, so we had said at full year that we would intend to launch it within 12 months. So that means now with intent, we're making good progress on ramping up and building the productions.

Speaker 3

So all these plans are tracking along nicely. And then sort of once we get closer to the launch date, we would, of course, inform you about it. So excited about it. It progresses very much as planned. So next 10 months, they should come to the market then as well.

Speaker 6

Thank you.

Speaker 3

Thanks Bruno.

Operator

Thank you. The next question comes from the line of Victoria Petrova from Bank of America. Please go ahead.

Speaker 10

Thank you so much. My first question is on Advil U. S. Market share. Last time we talked, you commented that your market share has stabilized.

Speaker 10

Were you seeing any improvement in Q1? How should we think about it into the end of the year? And my second question, once again, let me try to ask it slightly different. How should we think about the volume shape of recovery? We still have negative sort of a negative impact from comps in China in Q2, but it's obviously much smaller than all in Q1.

Speaker 10

And then we should have very positive supporting comps in the second half of the year. Is it fair to assume that volume would turn positive immediately? And should we also think about it in terms of matching your comment on sell out in North America in Q2 with what you saw in Q1 only on the sellout part when you commented on mid single digit dynamics? Should we see it already in the Q2 on your results? Thank you very much.

Speaker 3

Thanks, Peter. So let me start with U. S. Pain relief. So we've gained share as U.

Speaker 3

S. Pain relief in Q1. And this means the green shoots we've been seeing have continued to progress that overall, I think we were able to gain share in the pain relief segment in the quarter, which I think is positive. Advil is back to growth. So I think that's good to see.

Speaker 3

But look, I mean, it's early in the journey, right? I mean, this is 2 quarters into a turnaround plan. So I think let's be cautious on that also given the overall environment in the U. S. With inflation continue to be high.

Speaker 3

So I think we just have to be mindful of that. That probably answers then also a little bit your second question, right? I think we're very pleased to see that sellout is good in the U. S. I think driven by, I think, oral care, driven by the VMS brands and also us gaining share across the other categories.

Speaker 3

But again, I think I wouldn't immediately roll this forward into the next quarter just given the overall situation. And then on your volume shape of recovery, I think it's a gradual set up. So it will be better than Q1. So it's a gradual improvement. But of course, I think more of course, more phased through the second half of the year as we always expected because we have to still cycle through the Truafenmid.

Speaker 3

I mean, I think you should take some comfort from Europe or EMEA LatAm being back in volume growth, which was a drag in the second half of the year. And also, I think, APAC, which had a good quarter. And then we'll see where we get to with the U. S. And also on the inventory side as well.

Speaker 10

Thank you very much. And Tobias, you will be missed. Thank you so much for all your help.

Speaker 3

Thanks. Thanks, Wika. And I'm around for 8 more months to help

Speaker 10

Thank you.

Operator

Thank you. The next question comes from the line of Celine Peignot with JPMorgan. Please go ahead.

Speaker 2

Yes, good morning. I have a follow-up and 2 questions. My follow-up on pricing. So you had the strong pricing, which was the rollover of plus new in Q1. Can you just help on how we should think about the phasing or the step down on pricing through the year?

Speaker 2

I mean, was it really a Q1 benefit? And then we have a step down into Q2? Is it a progressive normalization? And my two questions. Number 1, I wanted to understand if you could give what growth rates you had in China?

Speaker 2

And within that, the moving performance, you mentioned that SendGrid was a tough comp and it's going to get us a tough comp in Q2 that it could was China moving negative and we actually could flesh out the different business performance? And then you just mentioned Europe, Latin America that comes back in volume. Can you talk about where that good income from? And what you saw from the category past 6Q? Thank you.

Speaker 3

Good. So let me maybe start with the pricing question. So yes, I mean, pricing was good in Q1, right? I think we expected good pricing going into the year. And I think that came through, which I think is positive.

Speaker 3

So I think what we have planned for the year is coming through through the pricing negotiations, as I mentioned earlier, before. So I think that is encouraging. Of course, there's still some rollover pricing looking at when Europe took pricing. So I wouldn't expect 7.5% price growth in EMEA for the rest of the year. So that's the one that probably comes down.

Speaker 3

Whereas I think in the others, I mean, it's probably more stable there, right? I think APAC wasn't that high and or it's normal. And then I think also the U. Is pretty stable. But again, in the U.

Speaker 3

S, it's a bit more spiky because we take pricing at different points of the year and depending on when we roll over. But it's really EMEALATAM that I think will I would expect to come down slightly from the levels they spend, right. But again, if you take the bigger step back, I think for the full year, I think we won't be in this roughly half and half splits where I think consensus currently sits, right. I think that's an important message for me that I think there is more pricing this year than what the compared to what the consensus is seeing. Then on China, I think look, I think overall, you've seen from some of the commentary, I mean, not surprising.

Speaker 3

I think that I mean pain relief was down significantly given our cycling over Fenbit. So that was a massive double digit decline on pain very much as expected and then that would even be a bit more in Q2. And don't forget, Spendbit is one of our top 3 brands in China. And then on the flip side, we had really good growth in VMS. So high single digit growth across the category.

Speaker 3

So I think that is positive and good. And then I think respiratory was slightly down, so despite cycling over the benefit. And then oral care had a really good quarter in Q1. Remember, oral care was a bit struggling in China in half one. So I said before, that while we had all this benefit from Finbit, there's also a bit of a not all the not the business wasn't firing from all cylinders last year.

Speaker 3

So and we're starting to see that come through with Sensodyne and a few other brands doing well. But in aggregate, it's correct. China was down. It was down in Q1, which again, I think gives you a bit even despite that, emerging markets were up high single digits. So it shows you a bit of the strength of the portfolio again that from a geographic basis, even with the biggest market within nearly 10% weight of our business being that being down or being a third of our emerging market, we're still able to grow the emerging market at high single digit, which I think are supportive to the 4% and 4% to 6% growth algorithm that we had, yes.

Speaker 3

And then on EMEA LatAm, I think volume growth, I mean, I think EMEA was down a bit. I think that's a bit of delays from the Red Sea. So we had some shipping delays there. Also, we see a bit consumers under pressure in Turkey as a smaller markets as well. But so that means the volume growth really came from both Central Europe and also from Western Europe, which I think is encouraging because that was sort of the areas that we were probably a bit more concerned about consumers and how they're behaving.

Speaker 3

And I think this just again shows the strength, but also probably the strength of our distribution model as a big part of the business is sold through

Speaker 1

slightly positive in volume as well.

Speaker 3

Thanks, Sonya. Yes. Great. Thanks, Selene.

Speaker 2

Thank you.

Operator

Thank you. The next question comes from the line of Tom Sykes with Deutsche Bank. Please go ahead.

Speaker 11

Yes, morning. Thank you. Three quick questions, please. Firstly, just how much of the revenue line, if at all, is from products that are sold in one currency, which is different to the local currency, please? And is there an effect on that on organic growth, particularly in given FX moves and particularly in emerging markets.

Speaker 11

On COGS and the gross margin, is there much of a gap between when you take price increases and when you see increases in, say, 3rd party manufacturing costs in particular? And is there anything that would lead to a impact as a closing of the gap in gross margin at all? And then just on the JV in China, can you just let this lapse? Or do you would you have to pay to exit prior to September if you at all wanted to exit? And if you did exit that JV, do you think it makes any difference to your distribution capability, please?

Speaker 3

Good. Thanks. So let me start with the transaction on the revenue line. No, I think that look there might be here or there some of the odds one where we export to a distributor market. But I think we have owned businesses in over 45 countries in the world where we sell in local currencies and then this gets translated back.

Speaker 3

You see that comes through in the translational currencies. Of course, there might be here or there a bit a small market that exports, but I think this is tiny and and not a material factor for us, just given the global and large distribution footprint that we have and that we have maintained and that we have kept. Then let me talk the joint venture in China. So first of all, the JV agreement expires, right? There isn't any payment in either direction, right?

Speaker 3

So could we let it lapse? Yes, you could, but there's absolutely no interest for either side to do so because I think this is one where I think and I said that I think I wouldn't say dependent, but both sides benefit I wouldn't say dependent, but both sides benefit from that collaboration, especially because the skills and the capabilities that both sides bring are complementary, right. We are bringing marketing skills. We are bringing our brands. We bring IP.

Speaker 3

We run a good part of the administration of that joint venture. The other side brings manufacturing capabilities, but we also supplement that with capabilities we bring in globally. So it is very, very much a joint venture, not the end of look, this is an operational joint venture. It is not a joint venture where you just sort of have an entity and one part owns X% and the other one. It's not a financial asset.

Speaker 3

This is a joint operation of the business and we're in very cordial discussions with the other side to how we continue this going forward, right. So I think there is no benefit to either side of letting that lapse. Then I wasn't I really didn't I couldn't track your question on cost of goods and how pricing impacts third party pricing. So could you just help me either repeat this or

Speaker 11

understand that. Yes, it was just on the timing of any cost increases for your 3rd party manufacturers. Would you say that is in sync with the pricing that you're taking? Or is there basically what are the cost increases in 3rd party manufacturing to be expected this year, I guess, is it?

Speaker 3

No, okay. No, look, I think, as I said before, right, so third party manufacturers, I mean, they all battle with the same thing that we do, which is labor cost increases because a big part of what they do for us has a big labor cost component. Usually these prices are with we have usually long term contracts because these are long standing relationships given the regulatory environment we're in. And these deals usually have a built in price mechanism. They're different across the contracts, but it usually hits once a year.

Speaker 3

So you can actually plan for it and you can build it into your forecast for the year. So our units know when this is coming. It was a bit more extreme and there was a lot of commodity cost pressure, which were passed on a bit more quickly. But sort of the general conversion cost increases, I think we have good pre warning and we can plan for those. So I don't think there is a significant change in that from a timing point of view when we can take pricing, yes?

Speaker 3

And I think anyway on pricing, I mean certain things are more given when you do them, right? I think the European mass market pricing, you negotiate once a year. That usually happens in Q1. In India, you take pricing once a year because you need to restick or enable all your products. In the U.

Speaker 3

S, you tend to take pricing if and when the shelf is resetting. So you try and combine it together with when the retailers do their work. So it's all a bit different drivers of that. But again, I don't see a major time gap in either direction of that. The only thing to keep in mind, it always takes with the inventory we have on hand, it takes several months until it hits the P and L on the negative as well as on the positive as well.

Speaker 3

Hope that answered the question, Tom.

Speaker 11

Yes, that's great. Thank you very much.

Speaker 3

Thank you. Great.

Operator

Thank you. Next question comes from the line of Misha Ominat with BNP Paribas, Exane. Please go ahead.

Speaker 12

Good morning, Tobias. Good morning, Sonya. Thanks for taking questions. I have 2. The first is on oral care.

Speaker 12

So could you please comment on the market share evolution of Sensodyne in the U. S. And other major geographies? And also how did AquaFresh perform in Q1? And my second question is on rx2 OTC switches, if there is any update on the process?

Speaker 12

Thanks.

Speaker 3

Good. So let me work backwards. So Rx OTC switch, as you remember, we had said we had 2 in the pipeline, but we also said that we're working with the FDA and those are a bit later than what we had originally said at the Capital Markets Day. We're still working on both of them. Remember that all the switches, ours, but also competitive funds, they They all have certain complexities as to ours.

Speaker 3

So I think really nothing to update on that. Also just to remind that the switches are outside our 4% to 6% guidance. So when they come, I think in quotation marks, I see them as icing on the cake. We continue to work on them. And I think the more immediate one that could come is the erytide dysfunction treatment that Bruno asked before earlier in the call.

Speaker 3

And then on oral care, so I mean, look, as I said, I think we gained share overall in oral care, I mean, which we should with a double digit growth rate. So the sellout continues to be strong. I think we're doing well on Sensodyne globally as well. So I think with the innovations and the launches and good execution, I think there's 2 things happening. It's 1, we grow the market.

Speaker 3

So some of the growth comes from expanding the market, which actually benefits us and it benefits the retailer because their share of the pie becomes bigger, which is positive. So it's not just about share. So I think because when you think about Sensodyne again, what makes this such an attractive proposition is that you have 40% of the world's population has sensitive teeth, only 30% of those use a sensitivity tooth based. So this is about getting more people using a sensitivity toothpaste. This isn't about fighting for share in an already well established segment.

Speaker 3

This is still and you could call it an emerging segment even if Sensodyne is very, very big. There's a lot of penetration opportunity in this brand. So I think that's probably the more important driver than actually looking at are you gaining or are you gaining share everywhere because it's unlocking the penetration. But and if you unlock that and people are moving from a $3, $4 shoe space or $2 shoe space to a 5, 6, 7, dollars 8 shoe space and everybody wins when that happens. The consumer wins because they're treating treating their condition, the retailer wins because their share and size of the category they're selling is growing and we are growing because our brands are growing.

Speaker 3

And then look, AquaFresh, I think it benefited a little you saw that did well last year given the overall environment. I think that has come probably down to what is more normal. This is a brand that's been flattish, sometimes slightly declining. So nothing to particular call out. If you look to generate a major up or down in the category, we would call it out.

Speaker 3

But I think it's now back to what is always done. I think it's a non strategic brand for us with the exception of a few markets here or there and it's rather small now. So it also doesn't impact the overall growth of the category dramatically.

Speaker 12

Very clear. Thank you.

Speaker 3

Thanks, Michelle.

Speaker 1

Time for one more question.

Operator

Thank you. Ladies and gentlemen, we will end the question and answer. Sorry, we do have a last minute question. The next question is from the line of Chris Pitcher with Redburn. Please go ahead.

Speaker 4

Good morning, Tobias. Sorry, hopefully, you can hear me. I'm on a mobile. Yes. Tobias, I appreciate you still have 8 months to go a couple of quarters to deliver.

Speaker 4

So I'll say my thanks and appreciation for the last meeting. It's been noted you've delivered a lot over your time. What's Dawn coming in? What's left for her to do? I mean, clearly, there's a productivity program to deliver.

Speaker 4

There is more is there more to go on working capital? You did make some improvements in 2022, 2023, is it M and A? And just keep it a bit more specific. What on her skill set is it that you think made her a good fit? Thanks.

Speaker 3

Thanks, Chris. So look, I think the I don't think the journey is done, right. We have been all point even when we came out of the Capital Markets Day, right. Brian and I said, look, there's a phase now that we stand up this company and establish it as a self standing company. I think we've done that well.

Speaker 3

And then there's a second phase of making this a more agile and more competitive consumer company. And we're starting which is starting on that phase, right? I think that's why we started the productivity program, but there is way more and much more to do on that journey because that is a multiyear journey. And I think that is something that I'm working on right now and I will continue to do so. I think then this is something that I absolutely believe in that Dawn will be able to continue on that because she brings over 2 decades of deep, deep, deep consumer experience even more than I had, right.

Speaker 3

She spent her whole career in the consumer world, given that she's done and she's had local role, regional roles, global roles, sales roles, marketing. She's really a deep consumer expert, which I think will be good for the business going forward. So I truly believe that the business will be in good hands with her as well. And I think the continuation of the journey that the company is on. So pleased what we have delivered, but I think look way more to do and to go.

Speaker 3

And I look forward to catching up with you and seeing you in person, Chris.

Operator

Thank you.

Speaker 3

Thank you.

Operator

Thank you. Ladies and gentlemen, that was the last question. I would now like to turn the conference back over to Tobias Heffner for any closing remarks.

Speaker 3

Thank you and thanks everyone for joining today. Look forward to speaking in the coming days. And as always, if there's any questions, contact Sonya, the IR team, they're already there for you. And I look forward to seeing all of you later in the year as well in person. So thanks very much and have a great rest of the day.

Speaker 3

Thank you. Thank you.

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