NASDAQ:ABSI Absci Q1 2024 Earnings Report $3.09 +0.04 (+1.31%) Closing price 04:00 PM EasternExtended Trading$3.05 -0.04 (-1.29%) As of 05:48 PM Eastern Extended trading is trading that happens on electronic markets outside of regular trading hours. This is a fair market value extended hours price provided by Polygon.io. Learn more. Earnings HistoryForecast Absci EPS ResultsActual EPS-$0.22Consensus EPS -$0.19Beat/MissMissed by -$0.03One Year Ago EPS-$0.26Absci Revenue ResultsActual Revenue$0.90 millionExpected Revenue$2.50 millionBeat/MissMissed by -$1.60 millionYoY Revenue GrowthN/AAbsci Announcement DetailsQuarterQ1 2024Date5/13/2024TimeBefore Market OpensConference Call DateTuesday, May 14, 2024Conference Call Time8:00AM ETUpcoming EarningsAbsci's Q1 2025 earnings is scheduled for Tuesday, May 13, 2025, with a conference call scheduled at 4:30 PM ET. Check back for transcripts, audio, and key financial metrics as they become available.Q1 2025 Earnings ReportConference Call ResourcesConference Call AudioConference Call TranscriptPress Release (8-K)Quarterly Report (10-Q)Earnings HistoryCompany ProfilePowered by Absci Q1 2024 Earnings Call TranscriptProvided by QuartrMay 14, 2024 ShareLink copied to clipboard.There are 9 speakers on the call. Operator00:00:00Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for standing by. Welcome to Absci First Quarter 2024 Business Update Call. At this time, all participants are in a listen only mode. After the speakers' presentation, there will be a question and answer session. I apologize. Operator00:00:18To ask a question during this session, you will need to press star 11 on your telephone. Please be advised that today's conference is being recorded. I would like now to turn the conference over to Alex Kahn, Vice President, Finance and Investor Relations. Please go ahead. Speaker 100:00:47Thank you. Earlier today, Absci released financial and operating results for the quarter ended March 31, 2024. If you haven't received this news release or if you would like to be added to the company's distribution list, please send an e mail to investorsabscai.com. An archived webcast of this call will be available for replay on Absci's Investor Relations website at investors. Absci.com for at least 90 days after this call. Speaker 100:01:12Joining me today are Sean MacLean, Absci's Founder and CEO and Zach Jonasson, Chief Financial Officer and Chief Business Officer. Christian Stegmann, Absahe's SVP of Drug Creation, will also join for Q and A following prepared remarks. Before we begin, I'd like to remind you that management will make statements during this call that are forward looking within the meaning of the federal securities laws. These statements involve material risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results or events to materially differ from those anticipated, and you should not place any undue reliance on forward looking statements. Additional information regarding these risks, uncertainties and factors that could cause results to differ appears in the section entitled Forward Looking Statements in the press release Absci issued today and the documents and reports filed by Absci from time to time with the Securities and Exchange Commission. Speaker 100:02:01Except as required by law, Absci disclaims any intention or obligation to update or revise any financial or product pipeline projections or other forward looking statements either because of new information, future events or otherwise. This conference call contains time sensitive information and is accurate only as of the live broadcast, May 14, 2024. With that, I'll turn the call over to Sean. Speaker 200:02:24Thanks, Alex. Good morning, and thank you to everyone for joining us today for our 1st business update conference call since 2021. A lot has changed since then. While we have been active at investor conferences and other venues showing our progress, we are excited to welcome you to our quarterly update call, which we'll host on a regular basis moving forward. There are a few reasons for this change. Speaker 200:02:50Among them, we are pleased with the expansion of our shareholder base and research analyst coverage. We want to provide an open setting to share our latest progress and details and allow for interactive dialogue. Additionally, our business model previously revolved almost exclusively around partner programs, where our communication was influenced by our partner. Our new hybrid business model, including our internal pipeline, gives us more opportunity to discuss the exciting progress we are making on each program. With that in mind, I'd like to begin with a brief recap of the achievements we made in 2023 before discussing our progress in 2024. Speaker 200:03:33Later in the call, Zach will provide more detail on the status and outlook for each of our internal programs and our business as a whole. We are often asked about our differentiating features, what sets us apart and positions us as leaders in AI drug discovery for biologics and a partner of choice across the industry. Any discussion of our integrated drug creation platform starts and stops with the data. The ability to generate and screen massive amounts of scalable biological data is an industry breakthrough that enables our platform to operate as it does. Based on these pillars of data to train, AI to create and what lab to validate, our platform is designed to continuously learn and improve as a result of our data generation capabilities and integration with our WetLab operations. Speaker 200:04:30Looking back on our accomplishments from the Q1 of 2024, it is clear they were only made possible due to the groundwork laid by our dedicated team in the previous year. The ability of our platform to rapidly design and create differentiated antibody candidates in a capital efficient manner, while achieving epitope specificity is a direct result of our team's efforts through 2023. We started 2023 with the release of a foundational manuscript demonstrating a first in creating and validating de novo antibodies with Zero Shot generative AI. Over the year, we expanded our models, harnessing the proprietary wet lab technology to generate scalable biological data for model training and validation. We continue to build our talented team, optimize our organization and integrate all of our platform capabilities deeply. Speaker 200:05:29In line with our hybrid business model, DStub aims to leverage our platform to create a pipeline of assets and establish validating partnerships with companies like AstraZeneca and Almirall. In October of last year, at our inaugural R and D Day, we reached a pivotal moment by unveiling our internal pipeline of asset programs, including potential best in class and 1st in class antibody programs. We are excited to continue advancing each of these programs, which Zach will be discussing in greater detail later. But stepping back, it is humbling and gratifying to see the translation of an idea using generative AI with our platform to create differentiated antibody candidates into reality. We demonstrate our platform's ability to create a differentiated antibody like ABS-one hundred and one, our anti TL1A antibody program with potential best in class properties in a very time and capital efficient manner compared to industry standards. Speaker 200:06:35At the beginning of 2024, we unveiled positive preclinical data for this program. And by the end of February, we initiated our IND need line studies. As we advance this program, I want to highlight our platform's efficiency in generating this program and the potential VAS implications. In just 14 months, we generated and selected our drug candidate at a cost of less than $5,000,000 ABS-one hundred and one is an early example of the power of our platform and we see additional opportunities to demonstrate similar results through our other current and future pipeline programs. At a high level, our platform unlocks the potential for a powerful novel biotech business model. Speaker 200:07:25We can generate a differentiated antibody candidate and complete IND enabling studies at a cost of approximately $15,000,000 This could enable a new paradigm in biotech, where capital typically allocated for one asset could be spread across multiple candidates, improving the overall probability of success. In addition to applying our platform to our internal pipeline, we are encouraged by the industry reception, including recent partnerships with industry leaders. It is humbling to count companies like Merck and AstraZeneca among our partners, who bring invaluable talent, skill and expertise to our collaborations. This year and beyond, we look forward to entering into additional partnerships with pharma and biotech companies. These partnerships will leverage our platform to enable and advance their drug discovery programs by potentially shortening time frames, lowering costs, improving success probabilities and unlocking new biologies previously thought unachievable. Speaker 200:08:33I'm incredibly proud of our team at Absci for these achievements and excited to see the promise of our platform applied to further internal programs, demonstrating the potential for disruptive improvements in biotech economics. At Absci, we come to work every day with a mindset focused on innovation and continuous improvement. We are driven by our mission to create better biologics for patients faster. A few months ago, we decided to further strengthen our balance sheet and capital position through an underwritten public offering of common stock. We were encouraged by the positive reception and support from a large and diverse group of investors, vision. Speaker 200:09:21As we look ahead to the rest of the year, I'm very excited about what lies ahead. We remain laser focused on execution across all aspects of our business, including partnered and internal programs with innovation and the pursuit of the impossible at the core of everything we do. With that, I'll turn the call over to Zach to walk through each of our programs, provide our outlook and give an update on our financials. Zach? Speaker 300:09:49Thanks, Sean. As Sean discussed, this past quarter we closed an underwritten public offering of common stock, raising gross proceeds of approximately $86,400,000 This additional capital will further support our ability to advance our internal pipeline of asset programs. This strategy reflects the hybrid business model that we introduced last year, wherein we intend to develop our internal programs to a certain value inflection points, for example, through a Phase 1 or potentially Phase 2 clinical trial before selling, partnering or out licensing said asset. A primary rationale for our strategy stems from our platform's ability to create differentiated antibody drug candidates in a highly efficient manner. We believe our strategy will allow us to create and capture more of the overall value of these internally generated programs. Speaker 300:10:45As we have said in the past, every program is unique and there is no one size fits all strategy for these assets. As a best practice and guiding strategy, we will look for the right partner at the right time. As Sean mentioned earlier, we generated the ABS-one hundred and one candidate in just 14 months at a cost of less than $5,000,000 By comparison, pharma industry estimates we have seen pin such figures at 3 plus years to reach a drug candidate and at a cost of $30,000,000 to $50,000,000 And as our platform continues to improve via our data generation and screening cycles, we believe over time that we will even further reduce the time it takes us to generate additional drug candidates. Turning back to our current internal program pipeline. Our lead program, ABS-one hundred and one, is a potential best in class anti TL1A antibody. Speaker 300:11:45In January, we presented early preclinical data from 3 advanced leads from this program. This data showed properties consistent with a potentially superior product profile, including demonstrated high affinity, high potency, favorable developability and extended half life. We used our de novo AI model to design AVS-one hundred and one leads towards a specific epitope of TL1A with the objective of creating a drug candidate with superior potency and lower immunogenicity. This target product profile, combined with anticipated high bioavailability could ultimately improve patient experience with easier, less frequent dosing, Following further confirmatory PK studies, in February, we selected a primary and a backup development candidate to advance into IND enabling studies. We also recently completed studies demonstrating ABS-one hundred and one candidates' ability to bind both the TL1A monomer and trimer, which could potentially lead to differentiated clinical efficacy. Speaker 300:12:48We plan to share additional preclinical data, including data from non human primate studies in the next few months. We then expect to initiate Phase I clinical studies in early 2025, with an interim data readout expected in the second half of twenty twenty five. Next, AVS-two zero one, a potentially best in class antibody for an undisclosed dermatology target, is designed for an undisclosed dermatological indication with significant unmet need, where the efficacy for the pharmacological standard of care is not satisfactory. We anticipate selecting a development candidate for this program in the second half of twenty twenty four. Finally, ABS-three zero one, a potentially first in class antibody for an undisclosed immuno oncology target, is a fully human antibody designed to bind to a novel target discovered through our reverse immunology platform. Speaker 300:13:43This antibody inhibits an immunosuppressive cytokine and is believed to stimulate an innate immune response. ABS-three zero one is being evaluated for broad applicability to a variety of oncology indications and comprehensive profiling of this program is in progress. We anticipate completion of the mode of action validation studies for this program in the second half of twenty twenty four. As a reminder, our reverse immunology platform is designed to discover novel antibody targets based on the analysis of tertiary lymphoid structures or TLSs from patient samples. Within this platform, we mine the antibody repertoires from the TLS samples derived from patients who have exhibited an extraordinary immune response. Speaker 300:14:32We discovered the ABS-three zero one novel human antibody and its corresponding target using this platform. We look forward to sharing additional details later this year. In addition to further development of ABS-one hundred and one, ABS-two zero one and ABS-three zero one, we continue to expect to advance at least one additional internal asset program to a lead stage in 2024. Further, in line with our hybrid business model, we continue to execute and make solid progress on our existing drug creation partnerships. I am pleased to see the close collaboration between our partners and our own R and D teams. Speaker 300:15:11And while we cannot disclose much detail about our partnered programs, the work we are doing with these partners is progressing well and according to our expected timelines. We look forward to sharing more details about these programs at a later date. Additionally, we continue to anticipate finding additional drug creation partnerships with at least 4 partners in 2024, including 1 or more multi program partnerships. I'm also pleased to share that we have a robust and diverse pipeline of potential partners, and we look forward to updating you on these over the course of the year. Turning now to our financials. Speaker 300:15:48Revenue in the Q1 of 2024 was $900,000 as we continue to progress our partnered internal programs concurrently. Research and development expenses in the Q1 of 2024 were $12,200,000 as compared to $12,700,000 in the prior year period. This decrease was primarily driven by lower personnel costs, offset by an increase in stock compensation expense. Selling, general and administrative expenses were $8,700,000 in the Q1 of 2024 as compared to $9,600,000 in the prior year period. This decrease was due to lower personnel costs and continued reduction in administrative costs, offset by an increase in stock compensation expense. Speaker 300:16:34Turning to our balance sheet. We ended the quarter with $161,500,000 in cash, cash equivalents and short term investments as compared to $97,700,000 as of December 31, 2023. For 2024, we continue to expect a gross use of cash, cash equivalents and short term investments of approximately $80,000,000 inclusive of the expected costs associated with completing the IND enabling studies for ABS-one hundred and one with a third party CRO. Based on our current plans, we believe our existing cash, cash equivalents and short term investments will be sufficient to fund our operations into the first half of twenty twenty seven. Altogether, we are very encouraged by the progress we have made on our internal programs and confident in our ability to execute on these and our partner programs over the course of 2024 and beyond. Speaker 300:17:30With that, I'll turn it back to Sean. Speaker 200:17:33Thanks, Zach. 2023 was a pivotal and successful year for Absci and our company's evolution. In 2024, we will continue to focus on execution and further demonstrate the power of our platform to create differentiated antibody assets. We are thrilled to advance each of our programs with the goal of creating better medicines for patients faster and fundamentally improving the economics of biotech. We look forward to updating you along the way. Speaker 200:18:04With that, I'll turn it back to the operator to begin Q and A. Operator? Operator00:18:11Thank you. The first question comes from Kripa Devarkonda with Truist Securities. Your line is open. Speaker 400:18:37Hey, guys. Thank you so much for taking my question. I have a question about ABS 101. We recently saw exciting preclinical data from the program. I was just wondering if you can talk about your level of confidence that this drug is differentiated versus the other drugs in the same class. Speaker 400:18:55Do you do we truly understand the biology about the importance of targeting monomer versus trimer? And what sort of an edge do you have in understanding that part of it? And then I have a follow-up question. Speaker 200:19:11Yes, absolutely. Thank you, Kripa. I'll hand that over to Christian to talk about the differentiated properties that we see with the TL1A and in particular with the monomer versus trimer. Speaker 500:19:23Yes. Thank you, Sean. Absolutely. First off, we do think that our extended half life is an absolutely critical and very differentiated parameter that will address patient convenience topics. But more importantly, also on the monometrima question, I think it's important to highlight that our AI guided antibody design strategy is really based on epitope specific targeting using 3 d structures and specifically for 3 d structures of Tier 1a. Speaker 500:19:54So we selectively chose an epitope on the monomer that shows no discrimination for monomer versus trimer binding and we designed antibodies using AI. So we completely avoid epitopes that span multiple subunits. And this allowed us to produce a development candidate that equally targets both PL1a states, and it also addresses to our knowledge all known monomer isoforms. This may have relevance in clinical trials because it's known that certain monomers are expressed differentially in certain patient populations. Speaker 400:20:35Great. Thank you so much. Sean, I have a question for you, bigger picture question. You were talking about using generative AI models. I was just wondering with the improved generative AI models and new data, do you think you can continue to improve efficiency and reduce the drug development timelines? Speaker 400:20:53I know, 14 months is already great and $5,000,000 to develop a drug is already great, but just wondering about that. Thank you. Speaker 200:21:03Yes, absolutely. As the models get more and more accurate with the more data we're training and as we continue to improve the AI architectures and our models, We do see these timelines continuing to decrease over time and the overall costs decreasing. And this is a very important metric for us internally these cycle times. And you are going to continue to see over time these overall costs decrease both on how long it takes us to get to a drug candidate as well as the overall costs associated with generating a drug candidate. So do expect that in the future. Speaker 400:21:47Great. Thank you so much. Operator00:21:50One moment for the next question. Next question comes from George Farmer with Scotiabank. Your line is open. Speaker 600:22:01Hi, good morning everyone. Thanks for taking my question. I was wondering if you could give us a heads up on what we can expect to see from the non human primate studies ongoing with ABS-one hundred and one later this year? Speaker 200:22:18Yes, absolutely. Christian, do you want to take that? Speaker 500:22:22Yes, absolutely. So our non human primate pharmacokinetic studies are expected to demonstrate that we indeed are able to show an extended half life of our antibody, thus derisking the pharmacokinetic profile in humans. So we in the next few months, we'll be able to demonstrate that our antibody engineering approach to extend the half life of the antibody has worked. Speaker 600:22:53Okay. Anything else from those studies we should be looking out for? PD markers, anything like that that can kind of shed light on the differentiation of the antibody from competitors? Speaker 500:23:05Yes. We will absolutely measure the known pharmacodynamic marker as well, obviously and exactly as you mentioned, demonstrating an extended effect on the pharmacodynamic biomarker will then obviously also derisk efficacy. Very good point. Speaker 600:23:22Okay. Great. And then maybe a bit on cash. Your guidance implies, I think, some funding coming in probably from partnerships is probably the best guess. Can you kind of elaborate a little bit more on that relative to how we should think about cash usage through 2027? Speaker 200:23:50Yes, we do see yes, go for it, Zach. Speaker 300:23:54Yes, I was going to say, George, we continue to reiterate our guidance of $80,000,000 of gross cash usage for 2024. That's obviously a gross figure and that includes the complete the cost associated with completing the IND enabling studies for ABS-one hundred and one. Our forecast that takes us into 2027 includes some modest assumptions around partnering on a regular cadence, but it doesn't include any assumptions around a significant partnership deal. So it's kind of our typical run rate assumptions built into that. And then I would point out too, if you look at our net cash usages, that typically comes in well under growth. Speaker 300:24:37So for example, if you look at H2 of 2023, the net cash usage for that second half of last year was roughly $27,000,000 in total. And the net cash usage for Q1 of this year was roughly $16,900,000 which is a little higher given that we paid bonuses in March. So you can see our net cash usage is coming well in coming well under the gross cash usage. Speaker 600:25:05Okay. Thanks very much Zach. Operator00:25:15The next question comes from Jacqueline Keesa with TD Cowen. Your line is open. Speaker 700:25:22Cohen. This is Jacqueline Kiesa on for Steven Ma. With ongoing bipartisan discussions regarding biosecurity, can you give us any color on the 3rd party CRO you're using for your IND studies? Is it Wuxi Biologics or a China based CRO? Speaker 200:25:42Yes, that's a great question. We are using Wuxi at the current moment. And given the recent discussions that have been ongoing with that, We do believe that the relationship with Wuxi will not put us at risk with the current program, But we are engaging with other CROs and do have backup strategies to mitigate any other potential tailwinds that may occur with new legislation that may come out. Speaker 700:26:19Great. Thank you. I appreciate the color. And regarding your 4th internal asset, can you give us any insight on the disease area you're looking to focus on? Is it one you've targeted before or new therapeutic area? Speaker 700:26:32And is the company right sized to serve both your internal and partnered programs? Speaker 200:26:38Yes, it's a great question. So we are focused in on I and I as well as oncology. So we'll fall in one of those therapeutic areas. And then additionally, we are currently right sized to be able to continue to take on more programs as we continued as our model continues to get more and more accurate, we're able to do more with less resources. But one area that we are going to continue to grow in that does not correlate to the model itself is on the disease biology and the translational side. Speaker 200:27:21So we're going to continue to build out our drug creation team, again, both on the disease biology, the translational side and clinical side. But we see that as modest growth as these programs are being undertaken. Speaker 700:27:41Great. Thank you. And then if I could just squeeze one more in. Technologies in the AI drug discovery are pretty fragmented. Are there any white spaces in the tech stack that you could fill inorganically? Speaker 700:27:51Or do you expect to build on your tech in house? Speaker 200:27:55Yes. One of the areas that we see as big differentiation is the epitope specificity. So being able to landscape an epitope and target an epitope of interest or be able to test, epitopes that may give you a new novel biology. With standard approaches like stage display immunization, you have no control over this epitope specificity. And to the best of our knowledge, this is the only technology that exists out there that allows you to hone in on these epitopes of interest and allow you to elucidate potential new novel biology from those epitopes. Speaker 200:28:42And so we see this as a major differentiation. This is really what's driven partnerships with AstraZeneca, Almirall, Merck, and we'll continue to drive our partnership pipeline, but also drive our own internal development as well. And we have applied this to the internal programs as well. Speaker 700:29:08Great. Thank you so much. I appreciate it. Operator00:29:12One moment for the next question. The next question comes from Steve Decker with KeyBanc. Your line is open. Speaker 200:29:23Hey guys, thanks for the question. Could you give some more color on Speaker 300:29:26how discussions are going with potential partners as it relates to getting to your goal Speaker 200:29:30of 4 new partners this year? Speaker 300:29:36Yes, I can comment on that, Sean. I'd say, well, while signing partnerships is always a little bit lumpy and if you look at our cadence last year, it's hard to have them come out on an even cadence throughout the year. But I would say that our pipeline of discussions is robust and covers both large pharma, mid and small biotech as well as leading academic institutions. And as we have these discussions and prosecute the BD strategy, we're really looking for partners that bring a strong synergy to the table. And typically that means really robust and deep knowledge of the target biology. Speaker 300:30:15That's where we see a really fertile ground for partnering. So I would say we feel like we're well on track to hitting the metrics that you mentioned. Okay, thanks. And then are Speaker 200:30:27there any new capabilities that Speaker 300:30:29you're investing in as it relates to your platform? Thanks. Speaker 200:30:36Yes. One of the areas that we're continuing to invest in not only on the de novo AI side, but actually on the reverse immunology side. And one of the areas that we see as a bottleneck that AI could really unlock for us is the dewarfening process. So once we take antibodies from a patient, we do a proteome panel screen to find out what these antibodies are binding to. And this is a very laborious and time consuming step. Speaker 200:31:11And what we want to do is actually go in the reverse direction of the de novo model. And so I'm going target to antibody, we go antibody to target. This would allow us to rapidly de orphan and discover new novel targets much faster than previous. And we could scale patient data and hospital partnerships as well. And so this is a kind of another key area of focus for us on the AI development front. Operator00:32:05The next question comes from Lee Chen with H. C. Wainwright. Your line is open. Speaker 800:32:12Hello, good morning. This is Li Chen. Can you hear me well? Speaker 200:32:16Yes. Speaker 800:32:18Hi. I have two questions. One is to expand on previous discussion on app size differentiation. So since the release of the 1 on 1 data, have you seen any shifts in the nature of the inbound partnerships or partner interests? What I mean is that you said the previous partnership was primarily driven by the AMBITDA specific antibody design. Speaker 800:32:47So anything any other capability that your partner is interested with primary focus on antibody design? And I have another question around 201. Speaker 200:33:01Yes. Zach can speak to the interest on ABS-one hundred and one and the discussions that we've been having on that, but I can say that they are very robust discussions. But Zach, I'll hand that over to you. Speaker 300:33:15Yes. We have had a lot of nice inbound interest around that asset and continue to have discussions. Our strategy, as Sean elucidated earlier, is to move that asset forward into Phase 1 clinical studies. But we're certainly entertaining discussions now and happy to see the interest from potential partners in that area. And the second part of your question, I'll just mention, I think this epitope specificity has been really intriguing to potential partners. Speaker 300:33:46So highlighting the capabilities of our platform and designing that asset, I think have been quite interesting to a number of potential partners and existing partners, as well as our ability to design in unique features. So in some of our other assets and case studies, we've shown an ability to design in pH dependent binding, multi valency, unique properties that can be differentiating in a clinical setting. So I think that's an exciting new area for us. Speaker 800:34:16Great. Thank you very much. My second question is on 201. Can you give us some color on the current competitive landscape of 201 in that undisclosed disease area? And what's your confidence of the differentiation factors from the current SOC and pipeline drugs? Speaker 800:34:37Thank you. Speaker 200:34:41Yes, absolutely. Christian, do you want to take that one? Speaker 500:34:48Yes. Thank you. My audio is cutting out from them. So your question is around ADS-two zero one? Speaker 800:34:54Yes. 201 around the competitive landscape and differentiation sectors. Speaker 500:35:02Yes. So we have not disclosed the precise indication for ABS-two zero one net, not yet, but I will share that this is an indication of high unmet medical needs, where the current standard of care is unsatisfactory. And we also plan to employ extended half life antibody technology to basically improve patient convenience as well, just like we did for ABS-one hundred and one. So in essence, we will deliver a best in class profile, not only from an efficacy standpoint, but from also from a patient convenience standpoint. Speaker 200:35:47Yes. And I will also mention as well this target is a very underappreciated derm target. And in this case, we would be second to the clinic. So it's not a very crowded space, a very underappreciated target, I'd say, almost very similar to TL1A. Speaker 800:36:08Great. Thank you very much. Operator00:36:11I show no further questions at this time. This will conclude today's conference call. Thank you for participating. 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There are 9 speakers on the call. Operator00:00:00Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for standing by. Welcome to Absci First Quarter 2024 Business Update Call. At this time, all participants are in a listen only mode. After the speakers' presentation, there will be a question and answer session. I apologize. Operator00:00:18To ask a question during this session, you will need to press star 11 on your telephone. Please be advised that today's conference is being recorded. I would like now to turn the conference over to Alex Kahn, Vice President, Finance and Investor Relations. Please go ahead. Speaker 100:00:47Thank you. Earlier today, Absci released financial and operating results for the quarter ended March 31, 2024. If you haven't received this news release or if you would like to be added to the company's distribution list, please send an e mail to investorsabscai.com. An archived webcast of this call will be available for replay on Absci's Investor Relations website at investors. Absci.com for at least 90 days after this call. Speaker 100:01:12Joining me today are Sean MacLean, Absci's Founder and CEO and Zach Jonasson, Chief Financial Officer and Chief Business Officer. Christian Stegmann, Absahe's SVP of Drug Creation, will also join for Q and A following prepared remarks. Before we begin, I'd like to remind you that management will make statements during this call that are forward looking within the meaning of the federal securities laws. These statements involve material risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results or events to materially differ from those anticipated, and you should not place any undue reliance on forward looking statements. Additional information regarding these risks, uncertainties and factors that could cause results to differ appears in the section entitled Forward Looking Statements in the press release Absci issued today and the documents and reports filed by Absci from time to time with the Securities and Exchange Commission. Speaker 100:02:01Except as required by law, Absci disclaims any intention or obligation to update or revise any financial or product pipeline projections or other forward looking statements either because of new information, future events or otherwise. This conference call contains time sensitive information and is accurate only as of the live broadcast, May 14, 2024. With that, I'll turn the call over to Sean. Speaker 200:02:24Thanks, Alex. Good morning, and thank you to everyone for joining us today for our 1st business update conference call since 2021. A lot has changed since then. While we have been active at investor conferences and other venues showing our progress, we are excited to welcome you to our quarterly update call, which we'll host on a regular basis moving forward. There are a few reasons for this change. Speaker 200:02:50Among them, we are pleased with the expansion of our shareholder base and research analyst coverage. We want to provide an open setting to share our latest progress and details and allow for interactive dialogue. Additionally, our business model previously revolved almost exclusively around partner programs, where our communication was influenced by our partner. Our new hybrid business model, including our internal pipeline, gives us more opportunity to discuss the exciting progress we are making on each program. With that in mind, I'd like to begin with a brief recap of the achievements we made in 2023 before discussing our progress in 2024. Speaker 200:03:33Later in the call, Zach will provide more detail on the status and outlook for each of our internal programs and our business as a whole. We are often asked about our differentiating features, what sets us apart and positions us as leaders in AI drug discovery for biologics and a partner of choice across the industry. Any discussion of our integrated drug creation platform starts and stops with the data. The ability to generate and screen massive amounts of scalable biological data is an industry breakthrough that enables our platform to operate as it does. Based on these pillars of data to train, AI to create and what lab to validate, our platform is designed to continuously learn and improve as a result of our data generation capabilities and integration with our WetLab operations. Speaker 200:04:30Looking back on our accomplishments from the Q1 of 2024, it is clear they were only made possible due to the groundwork laid by our dedicated team in the previous year. The ability of our platform to rapidly design and create differentiated antibody candidates in a capital efficient manner, while achieving epitope specificity is a direct result of our team's efforts through 2023. We started 2023 with the release of a foundational manuscript demonstrating a first in creating and validating de novo antibodies with Zero Shot generative AI. Over the year, we expanded our models, harnessing the proprietary wet lab technology to generate scalable biological data for model training and validation. We continue to build our talented team, optimize our organization and integrate all of our platform capabilities deeply. Speaker 200:05:29In line with our hybrid business model, DStub aims to leverage our platform to create a pipeline of assets and establish validating partnerships with companies like AstraZeneca and Almirall. In October of last year, at our inaugural R and D Day, we reached a pivotal moment by unveiling our internal pipeline of asset programs, including potential best in class and 1st in class antibody programs. We are excited to continue advancing each of these programs, which Zach will be discussing in greater detail later. But stepping back, it is humbling and gratifying to see the translation of an idea using generative AI with our platform to create differentiated antibody candidates into reality. We demonstrate our platform's ability to create a differentiated antibody like ABS-one hundred and one, our anti TL1A antibody program with potential best in class properties in a very time and capital efficient manner compared to industry standards. Speaker 200:06:35At the beginning of 2024, we unveiled positive preclinical data for this program. And by the end of February, we initiated our IND need line studies. As we advance this program, I want to highlight our platform's efficiency in generating this program and the potential VAS implications. In just 14 months, we generated and selected our drug candidate at a cost of less than $5,000,000 ABS-one hundred and one is an early example of the power of our platform and we see additional opportunities to demonstrate similar results through our other current and future pipeline programs. At a high level, our platform unlocks the potential for a powerful novel biotech business model. Speaker 200:07:25We can generate a differentiated antibody candidate and complete IND enabling studies at a cost of approximately $15,000,000 This could enable a new paradigm in biotech, where capital typically allocated for one asset could be spread across multiple candidates, improving the overall probability of success. In addition to applying our platform to our internal pipeline, we are encouraged by the industry reception, including recent partnerships with industry leaders. It is humbling to count companies like Merck and AstraZeneca among our partners, who bring invaluable talent, skill and expertise to our collaborations. This year and beyond, we look forward to entering into additional partnerships with pharma and biotech companies. These partnerships will leverage our platform to enable and advance their drug discovery programs by potentially shortening time frames, lowering costs, improving success probabilities and unlocking new biologies previously thought unachievable. Speaker 200:08:33I'm incredibly proud of our team at Absci for these achievements and excited to see the promise of our platform applied to further internal programs, demonstrating the potential for disruptive improvements in biotech economics. At Absci, we come to work every day with a mindset focused on innovation and continuous improvement. We are driven by our mission to create better biologics for patients faster. A few months ago, we decided to further strengthen our balance sheet and capital position through an underwritten public offering of common stock. We were encouraged by the positive reception and support from a large and diverse group of investors, vision. Speaker 200:09:21As we look ahead to the rest of the year, I'm very excited about what lies ahead. We remain laser focused on execution across all aspects of our business, including partnered and internal programs with innovation and the pursuit of the impossible at the core of everything we do. With that, I'll turn the call over to Zach to walk through each of our programs, provide our outlook and give an update on our financials. Zach? Speaker 300:09:49Thanks, Sean. As Sean discussed, this past quarter we closed an underwritten public offering of common stock, raising gross proceeds of approximately $86,400,000 This additional capital will further support our ability to advance our internal pipeline of asset programs. This strategy reflects the hybrid business model that we introduced last year, wherein we intend to develop our internal programs to a certain value inflection points, for example, through a Phase 1 or potentially Phase 2 clinical trial before selling, partnering or out licensing said asset. A primary rationale for our strategy stems from our platform's ability to create differentiated antibody drug candidates in a highly efficient manner. We believe our strategy will allow us to create and capture more of the overall value of these internally generated programs. Speaker 300:10:45As we have said in the past, every program is unique and there is no one size fits all strategy for these assets. As a best practice and guiding strategy, we will look for the right partner at the right time. As Sean mentioned earlier, we generated the ABS-one hundred and one candidate in just 14 months at a cost of less than $5,000,000 By comparison, pharma industry estimates we have seen pin such figures at 3 plus years to reach a drug candidate and at a cost of $30,000,000 to $50,000,000 And as our platform continues to improve via our data generation and screening cycles, we believe over time that we will even further reduce the time it takes us to generate additional drug candidates. Turning back to our current internal program pipeline. Our lead program, ABS-one hundred and one, is a potential best in class anti TL1A antibody. Speaker 300:11:45In January, we presented early preclinical data from 3 advanced leads from this program. This data showed properties consistent with a potentially superior product profile, including demonstrated high affinity, high potency, favorable developability and extended half life. We used our de novo AI model to design AVS-one hundred and one leads towards a specific epitope of TL1A with the objective of creating a drug candidate with superior potency and lower immunogenicity. This target product profile, combined with anticipated high bioavailability could ultimately improve patient experience with easier, less frequent dosing, Following further confirmatory PK studies, in February, we selected a primary and a backup development candidate to advance into IND enabling studies. We also recently completed studies demonstrating ABS-one hundred and one candidates' ability to bind both the TL1A monomer and trimer, which could potentially lead to differentiated clinical efficacy. Speaker 300:12:48We plan to share additional preclinical data, including data from non human primate studies in the next few months. We then expect to initiate Phase I clinical studies in early 2025, with an interim data readout expected in the second half of twenty twenty five. Next, AVS-two zero one, a potentially best in class antibody for an undisclosed dermatology target, is designed for an undisclosed dermatological indication with significant unmet need, where the efficacy for the pharmacological standard of care is not satisfactory. We anticipate selecting a development candidate for this program in the second half of twenty twenty four. Finally, ABS-three zero one, a potentially first in class antibody for an undisclosed immuno oncology target, is a fully human antibody designed to bind to a novel target discovered through our reverse immunology platform. Speaker 300:13:43This antibody inhibits an immunosuppressive cytokine and is believed to stimulate an innate immune response. ABS-three zero one is being evaluated for broad applicability to a variety of oncology indications and comprehensive profiling of this program is in progress. We anticipate completion of the mode of action validation studies for this program in the second half of twenty twenty four. As a reminder, our reverse immunology platform is designed to discover novel antibody targets based on the analysis of tertiary lymphoid structures or TLSs from patient samples. Within this platform, we mine the antibody repertoires from the TLS samples derived from patients who have exhibited an extraordinary immune response. Speaker 300:14:32We discovered the ABS-three zero one novel human antibody and its corresponding target using this platform. We look forward to sharing additional details later this year. In addition to further development of ABS-one hundred and one, ABS-two zero one and ABS-three zero one, we continue to expect to advance at least one additional internal asset program to a lead stage in 2024. Further, in line with our hybrid business model, we continue to execute and make solid progress on our existing drug creation partnerships. I am pleased to see the close collaboration between our partners and our own R and D teams. Speaker 300:15:11And while we cannot disclose much detail about our partnered programs, the work we are doing with these partners is progressing well and according to our expected timelines. We look forward to sharing more details about these programs at a later date. Additionally, we continue to anticipate finding additional drug creation partnerships with at least 4 partners in 2024, including 1 or more multi program partnerships. I'm also pleased to share that we have a robust and diverse pipeline of potential partners, and we look forward to updating you on these over the course of the year. Turning now to our financials. Speaker 300:15:48Revenue in the Q1 of 2024 was $900,000 as we continue to progress our partnered internal programs concurrently. Research and development expenses in the Q1 of 2024 were $12,200,000 as compared to $12,700,000 in the prior year period. This decrease was primarily driven by lower personnel costs, offset by an increase in stock compensation expense. Selling, general and administrative expenses were $8,700,000 in the Q1 of 2024 as compared to $9,600,000 in the prior year period. This decrease was due to lower personnel costs and continued reduction in administrative costs, offset by an increase in stock compensation expense. Speaker 300:16:34Turning to our balance sheet. We ended the quarter with $161,500,000 in cash, cash equivalents and short term investments as compared to $97,700,000 as of December 31, 2023. For 2024, we continue to expect a gross use of cash, cash equivalents and short term investments of approximately $80,000,000 inclusive of the expected costs associated with completing the IND enabling studies for ABS-one hundred and one with a third party CRO. Based on our current plans, we believe our existing cash, cash equivalents and short term investments will be sufficient to fund our operations into the first half of twenty twenty seven. Altogether, we are very encouraged by the progress we have made on our internal programs and confident in our ability to execute on these and our partner programs over the course of 2024 and beyond. Speaker 300:17:30With that, I'll turn it back to Sean. Speaker 200:17:33Thanks, Zach. 2023 was a pivotal and successful year for Absci and our company's evolution. In 2024, we will continue to focus on execution and further demonstrate the power of our platform to create differentiated antibody assets. We are thrilled to advance each of our programs with the goal of creating better medicines for patients faster and fundamentally improving the economics of biotech. We look forward to updating you along the way. Speaker 200:18:04With that, I'll turn it back to the operator to begin Q and A. Operator? Operator00:18:11Thank you. The first question comes from Kripa Devarkonda with Truist Securities. Your line is open. Speaker 400:18:37Hey, guys. Thank you so much for taking my question. I have a question about ABS 101. We recently saw exciting preclinical data from the program. I was just wondering if you can talk about your level of confidence that this drug is differentiated versus the other drugs in the same class. Speaker 400:18:55Do you do we truly understand the biology about the importance of targeting monomer versus trimer? And what sort of an edge do you have in understanding that part of it? And then I have a follow-up question. Speaker 200:19:11Yes, absolutely. Thank you, Kripa. I'll hand that over to Christian to talk about the differentiated properties that we see with the TL1A and in particular with the monomer versus trimer. Speaker 500:19:23Yes. Thank you, Sean. Absolutely. First off, we do think that our extended half life is an absolutely critical and very differentiated parameter that will address patient convenience topics. But more importantly, also on the monometrima question, I think it's important to highlight that our AI guided antibody design strategy is really based on epitope specific targeting using 3 d structures and specifically for 3 d structures of Tier 1a. Speaker 500:19:54So we selectively chose an epitope on the monomer that shows no discrimination for monomer versus trimer binding and we designed antibodies using AI. So we completely avoid epitopes that span multiple subunits. And this allowed us to produce a development candidate that equally targets both PL1a states, and it also addresses to our knowledge all known monomer isoforms. This may have relevance in clinical trials because it's known that certain monomers are expressed differentially in certain patient populations. Speaker 400:20:35Great. Thank you so much. Sean, I have a question for you, bigger picture question. You were talking about using generative AI models. I was just wondering with the improved generative AI models and new data, do you think you can continue to improve efficiency and reduce the drug development timelines? Speaker 400:20:53I know, 14 months is already great and $5,000,000 to develop a drug is already great, but just wondering about that. Thank you. Speaker 200:21:03Yes, absolutely. As the models get more and more accurate with the more data we're training and as we continue to improve the AI architectures and our models, We do see these timelines continuing to decrease over time and the overall costs decreasing. And this is a very important metric for us internally these cycle times. And you are going to continue to see over time these overall costs decrease both on how long it takes us to get to a drug candidate as well as the overall costs associated with generating a drug candidate. So do expect that in the future. Speaker 400:21:47Great. Thank you so much. Operator00:21:50One moment for the next question. Next question comes from George Farmer with Scotiabank. Your line is open. Speaker 600:22:01Hi, good morning everyone. Thanks for taking my question. I was wondering if you could give us a heads up on what we can expect to see from the non human primate studies ongoing with ABS-one hundred and one later this year? Speaker 200:22:18Yes, absolutely. Christian, do you want to take that? Speaker 500:22:22Yes, absolutely. So our non human primate pharmacokinetic studies are expected to demonstrate that we indeed are able to show an extended half life of our antibody, thus derisking the pharmacokinetic profile in humans. So we in the next few months, we'll be able to demonstrate that our antibody engineering approach to extend the half life of the antibody has worked. Speaker 600:22:53Okay. Anything else from those studies we should be looking out for? PD markers, anything like that that can kind of shed light on the differentiation of the antibody from competitors? Speaker 500:23:05Yes. We will absolutely measure the known pharmacodynamic marker as well, obviously and exactly as you mentioned, demonstrating an extended effect on the pharmacodynamic biomarker will then obviously also derisk efficacy. Very good point. Speaker 600:23:22Okay. Great. And then maybe a bit on cash. Your guidance implies, I think, some funding coming in probably from partnerships is probably the best guess. Can you kind of elaborate a little bit more on that relative to how we should think about cash usage through 2027? Speaker 200:23:50Yes, we do see yes, go for it, Zach. Speaker 300:23:54Yes, I was going to say, George, we continue to reiterate our guidance of $80,000,000 of gross cash usage for 2024. That's obviously a gross figure and that includes the complete the cost associated with completing the IND enabling studies for ABS-one hundred and one. Our forecast that takes us into 2027 includes some modest assumptions around partnering on a regular cadence, but it doesn't include any assumptions around a significant partnership deal. So it's kind of our typical run rate assumptions built into that. And then I would point out too, if you look at our net cash usages, that typically comes in well under growth. Speaker 300:24:37So for example, if you look at H2 of 2023, the net cash usage for that second half of last year was roughly $27,000,000 in total. And the net cash usage for Q1 of this year was roughly $16,900,000 which is a little higher given that we paid bonuses in March. So you can see our net cash usage is coming well in coming well under the gross cash usage. Speaker 600:25:05Okay. Thanks very much Zach. Operator00:25:15The next question comes from Jacqueline Keesa with TD Cowen. Your line is open. Speaker 700:25:22Cohen. This is Jacqueline Kiesa on for Steven Ma. With ongoing bipartisan discussions regarding biosecurity, can you give us any color on the 3rd party CRO you're using for your IND studies? Is it Wuxi Biologics or a China based CRO? Speaker 200:25:42Yes, that's a great question. We are using Wuxi at the current moment. And given the recent discussions that have been ongoing with that, We do believe that the relationship with Wuxi will not put us at risk with the current program, But we are engaging with other CROs and do have backup strategies to mitigate any other potential tailwinds that may occur with new legislation that may come out. Speaker 700:26:19Great. Thank you. I appreciate the color. And regarding your 4th internal asset, can you give us any insight on the disease area you're looking to focus on? Is it one you've targeted before or new therapeutic area? Speaker 700:26:32And is the company right sized to serve both your internal and partnered programs? Speaker 200:26:38Yes, it's a great question. So we are focused in on I and I as well as oncology. So we'll fall in one of those therapeutic areas. And then additionally, we are currently right sized to be able to continue to take on more programs as we continued as our model continues to get more and more accurate, we're able to do more with less resources. But one area that we are going to continue to grow in that does not correlate to the model itself is on the disease biology and the translational side. Speaker 200:27:21So we're going to continue to build out our drug creation team, again, both on the disease biology, the translational side and clinical side. But we see that as modest growth as these programs are being undertaken. Speaker 700:27:41Great. Thank you. And then if I could just squeeze one more in. Technologies in the AI drug discovery are pretty fragmented. Are there any white spaces in the tech stack that you could fill inorganically? Speaker 700:27:51Or do you expect to build on your tech in house? Speaker 200:27:55Yes. One of the areas that we see as big differentiation is the epitope specificity. So being able to landscape an epitope and target an epitope of interest or be able to test, epitopes that may give you a new novel biology. With standard approaches like stage display immunization, you have no control over this epitope specificity. And to the best of our knowledge, this is the only technology that exists out there that allows you to hone in on these epitopes of interest and allow you to elucidate potential new novel biology from those epitopes. Speaker 200:28:42And so we see this as a major differentiation. This is really what's driven partnerships with AstraZeneca, Almirall, Merck, and we'll continue to drive our partnership pipeline, but also drive our own internal development as well. And we have applied this to the internal programs as well. Speaker 700:29:08Great. Thank you so much. I appreciate it. Operator00:29:12One moment for the next question. The next question comes from Steve Decker with KeyBanc. Your line is open. Speaker 200:29:23Hey guys, thanks for the question. Could you give some more color on Speaker 300:29:26how discussions are going with potential partners as it relates to getting to your goal Speaker 200:29:30of 4 new partners this year? Speaker 300:29:36Yes, I can comment on that, Sean. I'd say, well, while signing partnerships is always a little bit lumpy and if you look at our cadence last year, it's hard to have them come out on an even cadence throughout the year. But I would say that our pipeline of discussions is robust and covers both large pharma, mid and small biotech as well as leading academic institutions. And as we have these discussions and prosecute the BD strategy, we're really looking for partners that bring a strong synergy to the table. And typically that means really robust and deep knowledge of the target biology. Speaker 300:30:15That's where we see a really fertile ground for partnering. So I would say we feel like we're well on track to hitting the metrics that you mentioned. Okay, thanks. And then are Speaker 200:30:27there any new capabilities that Speaker 300:30:29you're investing in as it relates to your platform? Thanks. Speaker 200:30:36Yes. One of the areas that we're continuing to invest in not only on the de novo AI side, but actually on the reverse immunology side. And one of the areas that we see as a bottleneck that AI could really unlock for us is the dewarfening process. So once we take antibodies from a patient, we do a proteome panel screen to find out what these antibodies are binding to. And this is a very laborious and time consuming step. Speaker 200:31:11And what we want to do is actually go in the reverse direction of the de novo model. And so I'm going target to antibody, we go antibody to target. This would allow us to rapidly de orphan and discover new novel targets much faster than previous. And we could scale patient data and hospital partnerships as well. And so this is a kind of another key area of focus for us on the AI development front. Operator00:32:05The next question comes from Lee Chen with H. C. Wainwright. Your line is open. Speaker 800:32:12Hello, good morning. This is Li Chen. Can you hear me well? Speaker 200:32:16Yes. Speaker 800:32:18Hi. I have two questions. One is to expand on previous discussion on app size differentiation. So since the release of the 1 on 1 data, have you seen any shifts in the nature of the inbound partnerships or partner interests? What I mean is that you said the previous partnership was primarily driven by the AMBITDA specific antibody design. Speaker 800:32:47So anything any other capability that your partner is interested with primary focus on antibody design? And I have another question around 201. Speaker 200:33:01Yes. Zach can speak to the interest on ABS-one hundred and one and the discussions that we've been having on that, but I can say that they are very robust discussions. But Zach, I'll hand that over to you. Speaker 300:33:15Yes. We have had a lot of nice inbound interest around that asset and continue to have discussions. Our strategy, as Sean elucidated earlier, is to move that asset forward into Phase 1 clinical studies. But we're certainly entertaining discussions now and happy to see the interest from potential partners in that area. And the second part of your question, I'll just mention, I think this epitope specificity has been really intriguing to potential partners. Speaker 300:33:46So highlighting the capabilities of our platform and designing that asset, I think have been quite interesting to a number of potential partners and existing partners, as well as our ability to design in unique features. So in some of our other assets and case studies, we've shown an ability to design in pH dependent binding, multi valency, unique properties that can be differentiating in a clinical setting. So I think that's an exciting new area for us. Speaker 800:34:16Great. Thank you very much. My second question is on 201. Can you give us some color on the current competitive landscape of 201 in that undisclosed disease area? And what's your confidence of the differentiation factors from the current SOC and pipeline drugs? Speaker 800:34:37Thank you. Speaker 200:34:41Yes, absolutely. Christian, do you want to take that one? Speaker 500:34:48Yes. Thank you. My audio is cutting out from them. So your question is around ADS-two zero one? Speaker 800:34:54Yes. 201 around the competitive landscape and differentiation sectors. Speaker 500:35:02Yes. So we have not disclosed the precise indication for ABS-two zero one net, not yet, but I will share that this is an indication of high unmet medical needs, where the current standard of care is unsatisfactory. And we also plan to employ extended half life antibody technology to basically improve patient convenience as well, just like we did for ABS-one hundred and one. So in essence, we will deliver a best in class profile, not only from an efficacy standpoint, but from also from a patient convenience standpoint. Speaker 200:35:47Yes. And I will also mention as well this target is a very underappreciated derm target. And in this case, we would be second to the clinic. So it's not a very crowded space, a very underappreciated target, I'd say, almost very similar to TL1A. Speaker 800:36:08Great. Thank you very much. Operator00:36:11I show no further questions at this time. This will conclude today's conference call. Thank you for participating. 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