BJ's Restaurants Q1 2024 Earnings Call Transcript

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May 2, 2024

There are 11 speakers on the call.

Operator

Good afternoon, and welcome to the BJ's Restaurants First Quarter 2024 Earnings Release Conference Call. All participants will be in listen only mode. After today's presentation, there will be an opportunity to ask questions. Please note, this event is being recorded. I would now like to turn the conference over to Rona Schirmer, Director of SEC Reporting.

Operator

Please go ahead.

Speaker 1

Thank you, operator. Good afternoon, everyone, and welcome to our fiscal 2024 Q1 investor conference call and webcast. After the market closed today, we released our financial results for our fiscal 2024 Q1. You can view the full text of our earnings release on our website at www.vjsrestaurants.com. I will begin by reminding you that our comments on the conference call today will contain forward looking statements within the meaning of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995.

Speaker 1

Investors are cautioned that forward looking statements are not guarantees of future performance and that undue reliance should not be placed on such statements. These statements are based on management's current business and market expectations and our actual results could differ materially from the projections in the forward looking statements. We undertake no obligation to publicly update or revise any forward looking statements or to make any other forward looking statements whether as a result of new information, future events or otherwise unless required to do so by the securities laws. Investors are referred to the full discussion of risks and uncertainties associated with forward looking statements contained in the company's filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission. We will start today's call with prepared remarks by Greg Levin, our Chief Executive Officer and President and Tom Hodic, our Chief Financial Officer, And with that, I will turn the call over to Greg.

Speaker 1

Greg?

Speaker 2

Thank you, Rana. EJ delivered another quarter of improving restaurant level margins and overall EBITDA growth, overcoming the challenging January weather, which impacted guest traffic industry wide. Our improving results reflect the benefits of the strategies we shared at our Investor Day in November. These strategies focus on driving sales through our familiar May Brea House Fabulous culinary initiative, building our awareness over time, our people initiative around hospitality and gold standard level of operational excellence, a welcoming contemporary ambiance through our remodel initiative. Our holistic approach also addresses margin expansion through productivity and cost savings initiatives.

Speaker 2

Taken together, these strategies have established a foundation for future financial and restaurant growth and the enhancement of shareholder value. As we mentioned on our 2023 Q4 call in mid February, comparable restaurant sales were down approximately 5% 6 weeks into the Q1 due to impacts from the winter storms. However, as weather largely normalized throughout the rest of the quarter, our comparable restaurant sales improved, resulting in comp sales being down only 1.7% for the quarter. The improvement in comp sales throughout the quarter came primarily from improved guest traffic. Q1 2024 also marked our 12th consecutive quarter of beating the industry as measured by Black Box.

Speaker 2

Furthermore, our restaurant margins continue to expand and rose to 15%, representing an increase of 2 40 basis points from the prior year despite the January weather impact. On a reported basis, adjusted EBITDA in the quarter rose to $29,400,000 inclusive of some one time G and A costs, which Tom will discuss shortly. Excluding these one time expenses, adjusted EBITDA would have been approximately $31,000,000 or approximately 25% higher than the prior year and 9.2% of sales. Tom will discuss our margin growth initiatives that generated strong Q1 results in more detail in a moment. However, as we stated before, we continue to expect restaurant level margins to expand again this year based on the foundation we have established.

Speaker 2

Therefore, despite ongoing sales choppiness that we expect through the first half of twenty twenty four as we lap the final aspects of COVID revenge dining and begin lapping the more normalized pre COVID seasonal trends that we experienced in the second half of last year, the foundation that we are building will position BJ's to further close the gap to our pre pandemic restaurant level margins. Our solid results are a testament to our team members who continue to execute against our strategic initiatives to improve the overall dining experience for our guests while driving impressive margin growth through our productivity and savings initiatives. To this point, both our hourly and management turnover is lower than it was in 2019 and lower than last year. Our more tenured team coupled with our culinary strategy focused on familiar May Brewhouse fabulous and our initiatives underway has resulted in both guest and operating benefits measured by faster service times and improved social sentiment scores compared to a year ago. As we bolstered our team last year, we implemented our gracious hospitality initiative to enhance our already high hospitality standards and scores.

Speaker 2

The first part of this initiative focused on new server scripting. With this new server scripting driving improved hospitality scores, this month we began rolling out our enhanced service model, which balances the number of tables per server, food runners and quality fast expediter positions in our restaurant. These changes allow servers to get to our guests sooner, so we can get the food into the kitchen faster. It also frees up our managers, so that they have more time to be in the dining room to make sure we are delivering the gold standard level of operational excellence for our guests. Overall, we expect this initiative to help improve throughput in our restaurants so that we can handle even more demand.

Speaker 2

We expect the rollout of this initiative to take the better part of Q2 and Q3 of this year and will have a slight impact on training labor for these quarters. We also continue to execute against our remodel initiative that is similarly driving improved sales and traffic. We have completed 13 remodels year to date and expect to do approximately 10 more this year. By the end of 2024, approximately half of our restaurants will either be recently remodeled or one of our newer prototypes. We also continue to open new restaurants in a balanced manner and in Q1 we opened 1 new restaurant in Brookfield, Wisconsin.

Speaker 2

This is our first restaurant in Wisconsin and it's off to a very strong start demonstrating the broad appeal of the BJ's concept in so many different regions of the U. S, which again reinforces our conviction that there is a white space for further expansion to 425 or more restaurants, which is approximately double our restaurant count today. Our next two openings this year will be in the second half of twenty twenty four and will be our newest prototype that will cost approximately $1,000,000 less to build, bringing the investment cost down to around $6,000,000 on average, and that's net of landlord allowances. The new prototype will also provide greater operating efficiencies while incorporating our learnings from our remodel initiative including lighter colors and a more contemporary bar featuring a 130 inches television as the focal point. Our long term cadence in the business is to drive top line sales in the 8% to 10% range through a combination of 5% plus unit growth and comparable restaurant sales in the low to mid single digits.

Speaker 2

However, as we've always said, we are going to do so with the right quality and at the right investment cost to continue to drive strong new restaurant investment returns that deliver shareholder value. At the same time, we continue to expand margins through sales leverage and productivity and savings initiatives. Our continuous focus on optimizing the business and our solid financial cadence results in significant free cash flow, which will translate into enhanced shareholder value over the medium and long term. Before I turn the call over to Tom, I would like to recognize 3 outstanding Board members that are retiring from BJ's Board upon the June 18th Annual Meeting. They are Jerry Dykesley, our former Chief Executive Officer and Chairman of the Board Pete Bassi, our Lead Independent Director and Larry Bouts, who has served as our Chairman of the Audit Committee.

Speaker 2

All 3 of them joined BJ's in 2,004 when we had less than 30 restaurants. These insightful Board leaders helped shape our company over the last 2 decades and have paved the way strategically for BJ's to develop into one of the finest casual dining concepts. We are grateful for their tremendous legacy they leave and really want to thank them for their leadership and their years of service to BJ's. Now let me turn it over to Tom to provide more detailed updates from the quarter and current trends. Tom?

Speaker 3

Thanks, Greg, and good afternoon, everyone. I will provide details of the quarter and some forward looking views. Please remember this commentary is subject to the risks and uncertainties associated with forward looking statements as discussed in our filings with the SEC. For the Q1, we generated sales of $337,000,000 which was 1.2% less than last year. On a comparable restaurant basis, Q1 sales decreased by 1.7% including the impact from heavier than usual winter weather in January.

Speaker 3

From a weekly sales perspective, we averaged approximately $120,000 per restaurant. Our strong and efficient restaurant execution as Greg just outlined in conjunction with cost savings from our margin improvement initiatives helped BJ's again improve margins in the quarter. Our restaurant level cash flow margin was 15% in Q1, which was 2.40 basis points better than a year ago, demonstrating again the benefits of our ongoing initiatives to drive efficiencies and the solid foundation we are building for continued growth. The winter weather in January also weighed on margins, which improved through the quarter as our sales returned to more normal and predictable levels. Adjusted EBITDA was $29,400,000 8.7 percent of sales in the Q1.

Speaker 3

Q1 EBITDA beat the prior year by more than $4,000,000 with a margin that was 140 basis points higher despite both more extreme winter weather and certain extraordinary cost in G and A

Speaker 2

that we'll

Speaker 3

outline later in my remarks. We reported net income of $7,700,000 and diluted net income per share of $0.32 on a GAAP basis for the quarter, which were both more than double levels from a year ago. Now I'll provide more details on sales trends in the Q1. Heavier than usual winter storms impacted industry wide sales through lower traffic in January. Our comparable restaurant traffic declined approximately 9% in January before recovering to negative mid single digits in February March.

Speaker 3

Also during the quarter, we began scaling back the degree of menu pricing compared to last year. In January, we took a pricing round in the mid-one percent which was lower than our January 2023 pricing round by more than 200 basis points creating a comp headwind in the quarter as we lap over last year's elevated pricing round. As Greg mentioned, foundation we are building allows us to take a more balanced pricing approach to maintain our traffic driving value while adding appropriate menu pricing to deliver profit dollar and margin growth. Our check growth moderated to the mid single digits in Q1 compared with mid 7% check growth in Q4 of 2023. We carried pricing in the upper 5% area in the Q1.

Speaker 3

Our late night business continues to outperform other dayparts which adds a modest check headwind as guest checks tend to be lower than other dayparts. We also continue to see some check management in our off premise channel and alcohol sales returning to pre pandemic incidence levels. Putting the traffic and check pieces together, our comparable restaurant sales improved from approximately negative 5% in January to negative 1% in February to flat in March. The improving comp sales levels were driven primarily from improving traffic trends through the quarter. Our comp sales performance also represents BJ's 12th consecutive quarter of beating the industry as our comp sales were 220 basis points better than the Black Box Casual Dining Index in Q1.

Speaker 3

Our positive if removing winter storm impacted results in January. Moving to expenses. Our cost of sales were 25.2% in the quarter, which was 140 basis points favorable compared to a year ago and 30 basis points favorable compared to the prior quarter. Food costs were about flat quarter over quarter with inflation of key items such as wings, salmon and chicken breast offset by savings from our cost savings initiatives, including the full quarter benefits from our new meat sourcing program and certain reformulated sauces. Labor and benefits expenses were 37.1 percent of sales in the quarter, which was 50 basis points favorable compared to the Q1 of last year.

Speaker 3

These gains were despite the extreme winter weather in January that impacted sales and deleveraged our labor line in the month. We continue to drive efficiencies with our simplified menu and AI based sales forecasting tool used by our restaurant operators. A number of the labor efficiency metrics we track including items per labor hour were better this quarter than pre COVID levels illustrating the high level of restaurant high level our restaurant teams are operating at as well as the effectiveness of our cost savings initiative to date with respect to refining and optimizing our labor model. Occupancy and operating expenses were 22.8 percent of sales in the quarter, which was 40 basis points favorable compared to the Q1 of last year. We increased our marketing spend by 30 basis points from last year to build additional awareness and drive traffic to our restaurants, so the underlying benefit was 70 basis points in O and O excluding marketing.

Speaker 3

We continue to find additional ways to save and operate more efficiently. For example, in Q1, we drove savings in our repair and maintenance expenses with a new approach to facilities planning and spending. G and A was $23,000,000 in the Q1 inclusive of several one time and extraordinary charges including more than $800,000 of legal expenses related to our shareholder cooperation agreements and $300,000 of severance from personnel changes. We also had more than $800,000 of deferred compensation expense in the quarter linked to fund performance in our deferred compensation plan, which was approximately $500,000 higher than an average quarter in 2023. As a reminder, this is a non cash item that has an offsetting entry in the other income and expense line in our P and L.

Speaker 3

G and A was in line with our plan and guidance when removing the extraordinary expenses in the quarter. Turning to the balance sheet. We ended the Q1 with net debt of about $39,000,000 We repaid $10,000,000 of debt and ended Q1 with $58,000,000 drawn on a revolver. CapEx was $22,000,000 in Q1 about $5,000,000 less than a year ago. Moving to more recent trends, comparable restaurant sales in the 1st 4 weeks of Q2 have been down modestly similar to Q1 levels.

Speaker 3

At the beginning of Q2, we rolled over another larger pricing round from last year reducing our year over year check growth by nearly 300 basis points. At the same time, our guest traffic decline has been improving each month with April being the strongest month yet, helping mitigate some of the comp sales impact from the lower carry pricing. While there is still an element of choppiness in sales as Greg outlined, we are encouraged by the improving traffic trends and because of our cost savings and productivity initiatives, we expect to continue growing margins this year. Additionally, our guest value scores, which we view as a key indicator of brand health, have improved as we've taken less pricing this year. In fact, our Q1 value scores are up 300 basis points from Q4 levels and our April value scores were even higher.

Speaker 3

Looking ahead and assuming recent trends continue, we expect slightly negative comp sales in Q2 taking into account the check headwind due to less pricing and improving traffic trends. As a reminder, our Q2 tends to be our busiest quarter, especially in May June with Mother's Day, Father's Day and graduation celebrations. Our ability to drive sales and traffic in those peak weeks are critical to driving a very successful quarter. We are confident that we have the right leaders, team members, menu and initiatives targeting gracious hospitality and speed of service in place to deliver record setting sales in our busiest weeks of the year later this quarter. Factoring in recent trends and expectations for comps sales to be slightly negative, we expect restaurant level cash flow margin to be in the mid-fifteen percent area in Q2.

Speaker 3

This guidance incorporates some additional food cost inflation we've experienced in recent weeks and changes we are making to our labor model in certain markets to increase hospitality and pace, which requires extra investment in training and will lead to inefficiencies during the rollout period. We then expect to continue expanding year over year margins in the second half as we grow sales through strategic initiatives and make additional progress on our margin improvement initiatives. Our goal is to close the gap to 2019 margins and finish the year with an exit rate in Q4 approaching 16% restaurant level cash flow margins. Specific to California, we are not directly affected by AB1228 that increased minimum hourly wages for fast food and fast casual workers on April 1. We continue to pay competitively and have not experienced increases in team member turnover or wage inflation in the state recently.

Speaker 3

In fact, our hourly team member turnover in California remained better than pre COVID levels in April. To date, we have not taken any extra menu pricing in the state as a result of this law, but we will continue to monitor the market and will act if necessary to protect margins and profitability. We expect G and A to return to a more normal level of approximately $21,000,000 in Q2 and excluding the extraordinary expenses in Q1, G and A is still on track toward the $82,000,000 to $84,000,000 range for the full year. In conclusion, with significant cash flow from operations, expanding our position to be a healthy balance sheet, we have the financial flexibility to execute multiple initiatives to enhance shareholder value. We are focused on delivering value to shareholders through sales and productivity initiatives and through our disciplined approach to capital allocation including for new restaurant openings and restaurant remodels which both continue to generate strong economic returns.

Speaker 3

We have a clear path to sales and margin growth ahead and our long term strategy and the strong consumer appeal for the PJ's concept position us well to continue building on our successes and enhancing shareholder value. Thank you for your time today and we'll now open the call up to your questions. Operator?

Operator

We will now begin the question and answer Our first question is from Alex Slagle with Jefferies. Please go ahead.

Speaker 4

Thanks. Hey, guys. Congrats. Good momentum here. The margin performance really stood out, and especially relative to the expectations we had in the low 13% range for restaurant level margins.

Speaker 4

I mean it was up and down restaurant expense categories. So I just wonder if you could size up the contributing factors a little bit more. I realize it's not just one thing. I mean there's sales leverage and cost efficiency measures kind of in a lot of places, but just trying to get a better feel for what changed and how sustainable some of these dynamics are?

Speaker 3

Sure. Thanks for the question, Alex. And it really was strong performance across the lines as you mentioned. Sales did recover nicely. So we saw a pickup in sales which was consistent.

Speaker 3

But with that, we also had a good quarter in terms of where commodities sat. They came in a little under where we were expecting. So that did help. Some of the initiatives that we rolled out certainly offset and some of the inflationary pressures. Where we really saw some nice leverage as well is across labor.

Speaker 3

We operated really well in our restaurants. Once we got through the winter weather, we had some really strong restaurant operations that were very efficient in terms of the labor scheduling. So when we saw the sales became predictable, we really had a nice flow through in terms of labor. And then finally down to O and O, seeing the repair and maintenance expenses come down, we have been more conservative in terms of what we've been spending in terms of 3rd party delivery promotions there. So we've really refined what we spend on and where we're going to cut and find some efficiencies.

Speaker 3

So more to come, but I appreciate the question. It really was outperforming what even our expectations were in terms of what we were able our restaurants were able to operate at.

Speaker 4

Yes, that's great. And so some of the labor scheduling, I mean, is there more to do there like tech enabled labor scheduling pieces maybe you haven't rolled out? I just wasn't sure where you were in those things, but good job working through all the volatility to the weather.

Speaker 3

Yes, thanks. Last year we had rolled out to our restaurants an AI based sales forecasting tool which helps both prepare their labor schedules, but also how much food to prep. So those continue to be refined and we're seeing better outcomes from those tools and getting our sales forecast even tighter at the restaurant level. So that is a continual process of refining and making that better and better. So yes, some of that was included if you think of Q4 into Q1 the benefits of that tool just getting better.

Speaker 2

So Alex, a big part of that and Tom mentioned it really is nailing down your weekly forecast. We said this before and you and others understand that if you have the right forecast in place, the ability to manage against that both on cost of sales because you're prepping correctly, works for you and gives you a huge benefit in food cost against your theoretical. And then the same thing for labor. As we continue to work labor, we right now want to continue to work our AI tool in regards to the in and out times and getting better around the shoulder. I think there's still opportunity in our restaurants to be more efficient really around that shoulder period.

Speaker 2

As we mentioned on the call today, we are doing some changes, which are going to allow our service to take care of our guests even better. But one of the big benefits on that is really getting more of our managers into the dining room area. And by being in the dining room area, we can see the shoulders of the shift and how they're transpiring through the day. And that's a huge unlock for us. That's going to allow us, I think, some additional benefits over time.

Speaker 2

But it is a shift in our business and it's going to take a little bit of Q2 and Q3 for us to work through that. But I do believe over time there's additional labor benefit in regards to efficiency and that should also allow us to drive top line sales by being more efficient and more effective. Thanks.

Speaker 5

Good luck. Thank you. Thanks, Alex.

Operator

The next question is from Andrew Wolf with Loop Capital Markets. Please go ahead.

Speaker 6

Great. Thanks. I wanted to ask about your goal of getting to the 16% exit restaurant level cash flow, which was 2019. And I just wanted to kind of point out sort of the obvious that like the 5 year period before that it was that margin was really more like 17% to 19%.

Operator

So I just kind of want to

Speaker 6

ask, is there any structural reason post COVID for 17% to 19% to be or not be in play? I mean, I particularly think about indoor dining in restaurant dining versus off prem is maybe a structural reason. The old margins may not be attainable if everything else wasn't equal. Obviously, you're doing a lot on the cost side. So I guess maybe you could just help us think about a longer term goal on the margin side from the restaurant level?

Speaker 2

Yes. Andrew, great question. And well, where I would say we are today and I think businesses in general in the restaurant space, maybe limited service in California might have a little bit different model right now. But where we are today is the additional dollar of sales is going to flow through somewhere in that 50% range or so and we still talk about that on the call. So we think about driving and the reason for that today is we've gotten through all the inflationary pressures that came through coming out of COVID from 2021 into 2022.

Speaker 2

So we've kind of reset that basis there and now we're dealing with, for the most part, more normalized inflation. So with more normalized inflation as we can drive that incremental sales, we should be able to get that incremental dollar and that incremental dollar should continue to move the margins up. And our first step is getting back to where we were in 2019 and then from there is continue to drive sales and getting our margins above that. The one area that is different today, it's about 130 bps or so, maybe give or take a little bit more in our P and L is 3rd party delivery charges. So when you look at our numbers in general, they're going to be 130 different basis points than maybe where they were in 2017 2018 2019.

Speaker 2

But other than that, we should be able to drive higher sales from that and ultimately end up with greater dollars per restaurant week. That's one of the things that we've got our eye on is how do we get to our dollars per restaurant week being the same as where they were in 2018 or 20 19. And that's what we take for the bank, but obviously we want both of them. And where we are because of the initiatives that we put in place and the things we've done, it's allowed us to get back to a very leverageable business, which is I think what we saw in the Q1. And even Tom mentioned it, it would have been interesting frankly to see how good our margins would have been with a normal Q1 or with a normal January and even into the 1st week of February because January is a big month for us.

Speaker 2

It's a really big month for us. Same with February in regards to Presidents' Day weekend and Valentine's Day. So the 15% margin that we're happy with, we're not satisfied. I think we left them on the table because of weather related. And I think as we go into Q2, I think there's opportunities to continue to expand that.

Speaker 6

Got it. Thank you. I think I'll get back in the queue. Appreciate it.

Speaker 4

Thank you, Andrew.

Operator

The next question is from Jeffrey Bernstein with Barclays. Please go ahead.

Speaker 7

Hi, this is Pradek on for Jeff. Appreciate you taking the question. Just a bigger picture question on consumer behavior. We've heard a lot of companies report over the past week noting caution on spending and there's a lot of check management going on, particularly with lower income consumers. Just wanted to see how you would respond in this environment.

Speaker 7

Obviously, you're seeing the promotional environment ticking up. A notable competitor of yours just added a premium burger to their value platform. So just how do you kind of maintain your brand equity while also acknowledging that maybe the consumers are getting a little bit more cautious and how do you maintain your value proposition? Thanks.

Speaker 2

Yes. So just when we look through our segmentation of our guests and look at our data, it does tend to be that the lower income consumer seems to be doing a little bit more check management maybe than the other consumers. And we look at that around consumers around $50,000 of spend or less seems to be again a little bit different in their average check and how it's acting versus some of our other consumers. So there's a couple of ways that we're going about it and I think you're seeing all different companies do it differently. One is, as Tom mentioned, we are not adding as much menu pricing as we've done before.

Speaker 2

We think we are in a position today that we can improve traffic and drive margins. And I think the health of traffic is a greater importance today versus getting back to where margins were even in 'seventeen, 'eighteen or 'nineteen. I think because of that, we can drive people in and leverage that part of our business. At the same time, in regards to our marketing and driving awareness, yesterday, Wednesday is our loaded burger day. So loaded burgers, yesterday, Wednesday is our loaded burger day.

Speaker 2

So loaded burgers are $11 or $12 depending on where you are in the U. S. With unlimited fries. So it's a great deal that comes in. We have half off large pizza Mondays.

Speaker 2

We also have our lunch specials that start at $12 So we have areas of our menu that continue to have great price affordability, which we call our daily Brewhouse special. And then we'll lean into at times different promotional areas. We haven't leaned into it too heavily, but they might be things such as a 10 off 40, we've done that before. We're not looking to get hugely on the deep discount to reach out to them. The other side of this as we continue to work with the lower value guests as well is we drove a lot of incremental guests into our loyalty program in Q1.

Speaker 2

And that loyalty program, that database I think increased by over 10% or so in the quarter or 10% increase. That allows us to reach out to them with special offers. And then one of the things that we talked about at our Investor Day was our 3 year culinary strategy. And as part of that 3 year culinary strategy not only did we want to have the Wow! Upgrades which are things like our surf and turf but we also want to lean into a value portion of it which I believe is around 20% to 30%.

Speaker 2

And that includes right now certain appetizers that we put on that are under $10 as well as looking at a couple of other newer menu items that are in the value category. So we're going to play into that, but we're going to play into it that works for BJ's and differentiates BJ's and what we're known for. We're not looking to do a buy one get one or anything else from that perspective. But again, kind of tell people about the great price points we have at BJ's. And then also talk about the fact that we are experiential dining.

Speaker 2

And when guests are looking for a what we would call maybe a better dining experience where they've got that hour of time, we want to give them a higher quality dining experience for the right price point that is affordable for everyone.

Speaker 7

Very useful color. Thank you so much.

Speaker 2

My pleasure.

Operator

The next question is from Aisling Greiner with Piper Sandler. Please go ahead.

Speaker 8

Hey guys, congrats on the results. My question is on the late night daypart. I know on the last earnings call you mentioned that the late night daypart was your best performing with comp sales around mid single digits for the quarter. I was just wondering if you could update us on this daypart and also wondering if you expect with the remodels in the new bar area, if there's room for this daypart to continue to grow? Thanks.

Speaker 3

Sure. Thanks, Ashley, for the question. Yes, this is if we look across the board both on premise especially, but even off premise just a great performing daypart for us. We did expand ours in the middle of last year and it's continuing to pick up steam. So we have positive comp sales for the quarter, even positive traffic for the quarter in Q1 even with the weather in January.

Speaker 3

So yes, if you think it puts core to BJ's, it really is the bar business and having the great bar statement is where we're touching in all of these remodels. And as we go through our new version of the prototype, it will have the 130 inches TVs. So this is a core attribute of BJ's and great to see both even on and off premise. It's a business that is really healthy for us right now.

Speaker 2

I think to add to that, I think this is really important is you have to lean into areas that you have authority in your business. And that late night and that bar business, that's something that's very unique and differentiated to BJ's that a lot of other concepts can't necessarily talk about, especially in the casual dining space. So as we continue to think about our awareness amplification and what we do differently, those are areas that we're going to continue to lean into to drive that part of our business because again it's a differentiating factor. It's one of the reasons that guests come and use us.

Speaker 8

Great. Thank you. My other question is just where marketing came in as a percent of sales in the quarter?

Speaker 2

My margin was 1.9%, 1.7%, Ashley.

Speaker 8

Great. Thank you. I'll pass it back.

Operator

The next question is from Nick Setyan with Wedbush Securities. Please go ahead.

Speaker 5

Thanks and congrats on the margin trajectory here. First question is really on the other OpEx. That had been an expense line item that had been pretty sticky. And it seems like even with the upped marketing expense, I think you guys saw like 60 bps or 70 bps of improvement year over year ex marketing on that line. So what exactly are you guys focused on in that line?

Speaker 5

And is there more that can be done on that line to get to see even more leverage going forward? Because your Q2 guidance, even if you assume less leverage on labor, it would have to I mean, we would have to assume a lot less leverage on other OpEx to get to that mid-fifteen ish type of restaurant level cash flow?

Speaker 3

Sure. The O and O line, you're right. I mean in terms of our especially our productivity initiative, this is one where we've identified ways to save, they've taken some more time to implement. So we're starting to see some of those come through in Q1. We called out the changes that we had in our R and M planning for the year and that's both on OpEx as well as CapEx.

Speaker 3

We've also we've made some changes that some outside services that we're now completing internally that it's we can do it for cheaper and it's a higher quality. But even coming into later in the year, we've got a new disposables distributor that is going to give us product at a lower cost that will be a nice savings in the second half. So we're continuing to find ways to just be more efficient in the core O and O line. And some of this has been stickier that has been sitting higher. But yes, this is when I think of where we're going to find some good cost savings this year, I want to find even more savings on this line.

Speaker 3

Going into Q2, we do have some extra marketing spend happening then. So our 1.7 that we just mentioned is going to be closer to 2. So we will see a little uptick in the total O and O line because of a little extra marketing spend. We are seeing a little extra inflation as well on commodities for so cost of sales. So there's a few things that are also baked into the forecast for where margins are going to be.

Speaker 3

But yes, there's some nice tailwinds as well.

Speaker 5

Fair enough. The other question I wanted to ask is not so much the value equation because it does seem like you guys are still a relative value to your peer set because of where your average check is. But what can you do to highlight that sort of favorable value gap a little bit more?

Speaker 2

Yes. Nick, that's something that we continue to work on and that gets down to really driving the awareness around that price point affordability. So as we lean into that, we lean more into our daily Brewhouse specials. As I mentioned earlier, talking about whether it's the Loaded Burger Wednesdays, it's the Slow Roast Thursdays that come about, the half off pizza. Those have been big areas for us.

Speaker 2

We continue to also as we work through our new menu and create new menu items that have a little bit better price points, let's call it, starting price points, but allow guests to trade up if they want. That comes in and it's going it's a part of that really the media side of it. The other is as we've rolled out our newer menu, we this year went back to what we used to do pre COVID, but have that spiral menu. It allows us to actually change our pages. So we are a little bit more flexible and able to push some of the value there.

Speaker 2

And in a couple of markets, while they're in test, I won't go into specifics, we do have a more value menu in certain specific markets that we continue to analyze the test. And depending on how it comes through for us, we may see us expand that.

Speaker 5

Okay. And then just a Molly question Q2, what is pricing going to be, menu pricing in Q2 all in?

Speaker 3

Pricing will be in the 3% area.

Speaker 5

Got it. Thank you.

Operator

The next question is from Sharon Zackfia with William Blair. Please go ahead.

Speaker 9

Hi, good afternoon. I was hoping, you could quantify kind of more where traffic has improved to in the month of April?

Speaker 2

Negative low single digits, right?

Operator

That's right.

Speaker 3

Yes. So far, yes, so we're through April now. So it's in the down about 3% area.

Speaker 9

Perfect. And then Greg, I apologize if I missed this. My cell phone cut out. But it sounds like you're making some incremental investments in hospitality. It sounded like maybe those are in specific regions.

Speaker 9

Can you talk about what you're seeing that's causing you to make those investments? And has there been any kind of waffling, I guess, and guest satisfaction that's leading you to think about investing more there?

Speaker 2

Yes. By the way, I just want to think about your first part of your question. Our dine in traffic is actually less than the negative 3%. It's kind of in the 2s just from a negative standpoint. So we get a little bit of drag from the off premise.

Speaker 2

And we did talk about we're spending money wisely in off premise and looking at other ways to drive off premise overall. But when we look at the health of the business overall, we want to drive that dining room traffic. That dining room traffic delivers an affinity for the brand and that then drives off premise. So just want to get back to that aspect of it. In regards to your other question from a labor standpoint, one of the things that we've been really looking at in our business is pace and the throughput in our restaurants and how we can be faster.

Speaker 2

BJ's has never been a fast restaurant. People like to come and spend their time there and enjoy their time at BJ's that's why we're more experiential from a dining perspective. We're not necessarily something that's complementary to something else meaning we go to BJ's and a movie, we are the event of the evening. But at the same time, we're looking at areas that we control, whether it's how quickly we get somebody seated, how quickly we get an order into the guest, how quickly we cook, how quickly it gets run out and so forth. And as we looked at that, Chris Penczak, our Chief Restaurant Operations Officer and his team really started looking at some of the pinch points in regards to how quickly do we get to a table to get that order into the kitchen because if it's into the kitchen quicker, it cooks quicker.

Speaker 2

And we started looking at that ratio at times between servers and food runners as well as how do we want to think about an expediter in regards to quality what we call a quality fast position. And we're making some tweaks to that. The net net of that is it should not add any real labor dollars to our business. It's more of a shift from servers, from food runners and then to more of an expediter type role that we didn't have that we used to have maybe 15 years ago. And we're doing that in more of the high volume restaurants first to see how that works for us and how that drives improved pace and throughput.

Speaker 2

And then as we work through that, we'll look at that and determine the right cadence for the rest of the restaurants.

Speaker 9

Thanks for that. And just one last question. It sounds like you're seeing a little bit of commodity inflation tick up. Do you still expect flat to low single digit for the full year? Or has there been a change to that?

Speaker 3

No, that's still in line with our expectations. It's looking like the low single digits, but yes, still a lot of year in front of us. But we had a really good Q1 in terms of where we were expecting commodities to come in. But some of the produce recently is higher, some of the meat. So it's more or less in line with the plan as it started.

Speaker 3

We had a little bit better Q1. Now we're seeing some of it pick back up a little bit. So yes, we're still right in line with the original guidance.

Speaker 9

Okay. Thank you.

Speaker 3

Thank you.

Operator

And our last question today comes from Todd Brooks with The Benchmark Company. Please go ahead.

Speaker 10

Hey, thanks for squeezing me in. Just wondering, Tom, within the guidance for slightly negative same store sales in the Q2, what are the assumptions that you guys are building in for the strength of celebration season here, Mother's Day, Graduation, Father's Day? Thoughts on how those should perform year over year given the macro background?

Speaker 3

Yes. Everything when we look back to the recent celebrations, the Valentine's Days, when we were expecting people to come out, they have come out. So I am expecting and the focus internally is how do we make sure, yes, gracious hospitality is a focus, but also pace. So we can get these tables sat and people fed and when they want to leave they can leave. And so we're ready to seat the next group.

Speaker 3

So yes, we're expecting these to be big weekends for us since we're putting all of the operational pieces in place to make sure we can everything we can control is being controlled and driving as much sales as possible.

Speaker 10

Are those weekends that you can actually grow year over year or it's more hold to hell because they were such high volume weekends last year?

Speaker 2

Our goal is always to grow and have more consumers come into our restaurants. As I mentioned earlier, Chris Pinnczak, our Chief Restaurant Operations Officer, got through with the rest of his ops team and looked at ways to make sure we have the most flexible floor plans in place, how we increase reservations for those big weekends and reach out not only for Mother's Day and Father's Day, but also all the graduations that happened at that time during that season there. And we believe that by adjusting our floor plan and some of the restaurants, sat faster, food into their tables faster and that provides additional capacity. One of the things that we've seen in this business coming really out of COVID is just restaurants are seem to be busier at the front desk. And then as you look in the restaurants, they're just not operating as fast as they are.

Speaker 2

So I wouldn't necessarily call entirely false weights per se. It's more about how are we more efficient when people come into the front doors of our restaurants, so we get them sat sooner. And that's one of our big initiatives this year and that initiative will really prove itself out come the come Father's Day, Mother's Day and these graduation time frames.

Speaker 10

That's great. And then Greg, you talked about without the impact of January, we probably really would have been even more surprised by the restaurant level margins than where we are now. And I know if we have a normal celebration season, typically that's a big sequential lift that we tend to see in restaurant level margins kind of Q2 versus Q1. So Tom, I think you talked about less pricing, a little bit more commodity inflation, but just trying to get a sense of is there a how high is up type of way that we should think beyond the 15.5% guidance if things do fall as expected in Q2?

Speaker 2

Todd, it's interesting. Being in this business as long as I have been, people used to talk about this business around Q2 and Q4. If you go back historically and look at this business, it switched to a Q1 and Q2 business. It's just 1st part of January, it's longer spring school breaks. You go into spring break in March, which is still in Q1.

Speaker 2

As I mentioned, Valentine's Day, President's Day, other long weekends. And when you go back and you can look at BJ's margins over the time, the difference between Q1 margins and Q2 margins, they do bump up from time to time, but they're not like 100 or 200 basis points or 300 basis points more. You'll see anywhere from 30 to 100 play in there. So I think as we think about where we've looked at our business, where we're trending, I think the mid-50s is a solid improvement in where we are today and continues to move us forward. If sales come in significantly better, as I said earlier, the ability to leverage in this business, I think is very strong.

Speaker 10

Okay. And if I could squeeze one more in. Exciting to hear that you got the build cost down to 6,000,000 dollars in the new prototype. Just wondering what changed to get the build cost down that much? Is it front of house changes, back of house changes?

Speaker 10

I know it was

Speaker 5

a little bit more maybe

Speaker 10

simple construction, 90 degree angles versus curves and angles and things like that. But that's a big drop from where you guys were running with the recent set of builds. So I'm just wondering how you got there. Thanks.

Speaker 2

Yes. A big portion of that, Todd, you were with us at our Investor Day and you saw our Framingham restaurant and some of our newer restaurants. They have that island bar. That island bar takes up more square footage versus our more traditional restaurants that what we call the classic bar statement against the wall where we could put that 130 inches TV in. And that helped achieve a big amount of savings there.

Speaker 2

It then allows us to run that much more efficiently because you got the kitchen right behind the bar, so it's easier for team members to serve the people in the bar area. They're not as driving as many steps. And then losing that island bar, you don't have to staff it with 2 to 3 bartenders at different times because you have people in different sizes of the bar. So that's where you get some of that operating efficiency. So that's a significant portion of it.

Speaker 2

There's also other things that we looked at within how we set up the kitchen, the different, as you just saw undulations or right angles versus curved angles.

Speaker 10

Okay, great. Thanks, Craig.

Speaker 2

My pleasure. Thank you.

Operator

This concludes our question and answer session and the conference has also now concluded. Thank you for attending today's presentation. You may now disconnect.

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