Fox Factory Q1 2024 Earnings Call Transcript

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May 2, 2024

There are 10 speakers on the call.

Operator

Good afternoon, ladies and gentlemen. Thank you for standing by. Welcome to Fox Factory Holding Corporation's First Quarter Fiscal 20 24 Earnings Conference Call. At this time, all participants are in a listen only mode. A question and answer session will follow the formal presentation.

Operator

Please note this conference is being recorded. And now at this time, I would like to turn things over to Toby Merchant, Chief Legal Officer at Fox Factory Holding Corporation. Please go ahead, sir.

Speaker 1

Thank you. Good afternoon and welcome to Fox Factory's Q1 2024 Earnings Conference Call. I'm joined today by Mike Dennison, Chief Executive Officer and Dennis Shem, Chief Financial Officer and Treasurer. First, Mike will provide business updates and then Dennis will review the quarterly results and outlook. Mike will then provide some closing remarks before we open up the call for your questions.

Speaker 1

By now, everyone should have access to the earnings release, which went out earlier this afternoon. If you have not had a chance to review the release, it's available on the Investor Relations portion of our website at investor. Ridefox.com. Please note that throughout this call, we will refer to Fox Factory as Fox or the company. Before we begin, I would like to remind everyone that the prepared remarks contain forward looking statements within the meaning of federal security laws and management may make additional forward looking statements in response to your questions.

Speaker 1

Such statements involve a number of known and unknown risks and uncertainties, many of which are outside the company's control and can cause future results, performance or achievements to differ materially from the results, performance or achievements expressed or implied by such forward looking statements. Important factors and risks that could cause or contribute to such differences are detailed in the company's quarterly reports on Form 10 Q and in the company's latest annual report on Form 10 ks, each filed with the Securities and Exchange Commission. Investors should not place undue reliance on the company's forward looking statements and except as required by law, the company undertakes no obligation to update any forward looking statements or other statements herein, whether as a result of new information, future events or otherwise. In addition, where appropriate in today's prepared remarks and within our earnings release, we will refer to certain non GAAP financial measures to evaluate our business, including adjusted gross profit, adjusted gross margin, adjusted operating expenses, adjusted net income, adjusted earnings per diluted share, adjusted EBITDA and adjusted EBITDA margin as we believe these are useful metrics that allow investors to better understand and evaluate the company's core operating performance and trends.

Speaker 1

Reconciliations of these non GAAP financial measures to their most directly comparable GAAP financial measures are included in today's earnings release, which has also been posted on our website. And with that, it is my pleasure to turn the call over to our CEO, Mike Dennison.

Speaker 2

Thanks, Tobey. Good afternoon, everyone, and thank you for joining us today. Diversification is a key element in building resiliency and it is all the more important during the period of industry cyclicality. Our ability to navigate through the current market headwinds is a testament to the strength of our diversified product portfolio, which spans across multiple sectors and markets. This diversification not only mitigates risk, but also provides us with multiple avenues for future growth and expansion and in turn drives value creation for all of our stakeholders.

Speaker 2

For the Q1 of 2024, we delivered 333,500,000 revenue, which was consistent with our expectations and adjusted earnings per share of $0.29 which exceeded our plan. We are confident we will see sequential improvement in our operating results over the coming quarters, ultimately returning to the strong growth rates and margins that our business can deliver. While we believe that our premium positioning and innovation helps mitigate macroeconomic forces, the OEMs we serve continue to face unique challenges in the near term. In SSG and more specifically in bike, our results continue to be impacted by the ongoing inventory recalibration. However, we are already seeing positive signs in Q2 and believe this business is turning back the right direction.

Speaker 2

In PVG, powersports continues to be impacted by dealer inventory levels and in AEG, upfits are being challenged primarily by mix and model year changeover issues from our OEMs. In addition, we are seeing ongoing consumer fatigue given the extended duration of high rates, which is impacting discretionary spending with consumers and cautious management of inventory levels at dealerships and OEMs. Despite this confluence of headwinds, we remain laser focused on what we can control, which is delivering exceptional value through our uncompromising commitment to innovation and performance defining products across our diversified set of businesses. This focus is resulting in continued share growth with our OEM partners, which speaks to the value of our product roadmap and is a central tenet of our long term strategy. While we remain focused on products, we recognize that near term, we must also keep a close eye and tight control on our costs.

Speaker 2

Although we have not executed a company wide workforce reduction, we have consistently and continuously refined our workforce in conjunction with work optimization and productivity targets. We have also reduced spending and investments to ensure we run as lean and focused as possible. To be clear, this is not a one and done or even periodic management tactic at Fox, but the way we think about our jobs every day. Turning now to our segment performance. In the Powered Vehicle Group, net sales were $118,000,000 down from $142,000,000 in the prior year quarter, primarily due to lower OEM demand in powersports.

Speaker 2

At the dealer distributor level, the industry expects 2024 Powersports retail to be done modestly versus 2023, which is driving a conservative approach to inventory management among dealers. In response, powersports OEMs continue to curtail production to balance supply with demand, which will continue to impact our results in the near term. In the automotive space, we continue to see strong demand from our major OEMs as they produce model year 'twenty five products. As these are mainly limited production vehicles, we believe this significant portion of our business is insulated from interest rate issues that have impacted us elsewhere. We remain committed to our long term growth strategy within the PPG business.

Speaker 2

While we took prudent cost reduction actions commensurate to volume reductions, we were more deliberate in maintaining most of our highly trained engineers and leaders who are critical to developing our technologically advanced products. While this decision is impacting near term profitability, it is essential to ensuring that we can support growth over the long term as industry conditions improve. We are seeing the benefits from our development team as we continue to win market share, demonstrating the power and differentiation behind our product portfolio. We're excited by new product introductions for the Polaris IndyDynamics, Toyota 400 TRD Pro and the Sierra Echo and believe we'll be able to increase our spec share with both existing and new OEMs through this cycle given our brand leadership. In AAG, net sales were $102,000,000 compared to $139,000,000 in the prior year quarter.

Speaker 2

The results were driven by lower sales in our upfitting business offset by strong aftermarket growth in sales of wheels, tires and lift kits. Upfit was lower due to product mix and unique model year changeover challenges from OEMs which delayed model year launches. We expect these impacts to largely be behind us as we exit the 2nd quarter. Additionally, we are seeing a slowdown in sales and moderately priced updates as consumers who generally finance these purchases are challenged with a higher interest rate environment that is persisting longer than expected. Despite the macro environment, dealers continue to make good progress in reducing existing aged inventory ahead of the release of new redesigned model year vehicles, which are expected to launch throughout the balance of the year.

Speaker 2

As we've said before, these changeovers present a great opportunity for us as we collaborate with OE partners on developing and introducing new packages for the latest models. We remain encouraged that the higher end upfits continue to see strong consumer demand and interest. To that point, in March, we announced the launch of the company's first branded high performance off road upfitted truck and high performance upfitted UTVs. We are thrilled to introduce these state of the art upfitted vehicles, which exemplify all of our best in class products engineered to work together to create a new premium class of vehicles. With our heavily contented Fox factory trucks, our upfit is worth 4 times the value of our average upfit, making new vehicles significantly more accretive to our business in the future.

Speaker 2

In SSG, net sales were $114,000,000 compared to $119,000,000 last year. The decline in revenue was primarily due to a $65,000,000 reduction in sales within bike as a result of the OEM inventory destocking have been discussing the last several quarters. Notably, the declines in bike were partially offset by above plan performance at Marucci, which was fueled by success across our diverse product lineup in baseball covering their Victus and Marucci brands, softball, lizard skins, soft goods, international growth and Hitter's House. This was a strong quarter despite not having a significant new product launch. As demonstrated by the results, Maruchi also played a key role in bolstering resiliency of our bottom line performance given their attractive margin profile relative to the segment average.

Speaker 2

As we look ahead to the rest of the year, our bike segment is strengthening. OEs are gearing up for new model year launches and expanding their product offerings, which are factored into our 2nd quarter and back half forecast. Additionally, we are seeing growth with multiple product launches, which occurred throughout the balance of the The e bike category continues to experience robust growth as well and we firmly believe that e bikes will not only attract a broader demographic of riders, but also feel industry wide expansion via this growing addressable market. In the face of challenged results, our focus remains on key elements that define our brand and long history of excellence in product development. These elements include maintaining strong brand relationships, avoiding brand dilution for short term gains and investing in research and development to drive long term growth.

Speaker 2

Our objectives with R and D investment are 2 fold: 1st, support innovative model year 2025 releases, which will expand our share of the OEM market and second, capitalizing on new launches of higher margin aftermarket components, where we are also gaining significant traction with our recently expanded e commerce business. Now for some comments on our outlook for the balance of 2024. We continue to expect the first half of twenty twenty four to be down year over year with the second quarter being sequentially stronger than the Q1. Our expectation for the Q2 remains unchanged and is consistent with our plan. Dennis will speak more to our Q2 guidance in his remarks.

Speaker 2

Our full year guidance continues to be weighted to the back half and predicated on the following: bikes channel inventory continuing to improve and OEMs model year 'twenty five releases Marucci's continued growth across its diversified portfolio and new product launches. Inventory improvement, upfit chassis availability and mix improvement and new product launches within our lift kit and wheel business. While those assumptions remain intact and show positive signs so far within Q2, our full year guidance also assumed easing macro pressures and an improved consumer outlook driven by the timing of interest rate relief. With the Fed recently signaling that rates are likely to remain higher for longer, we have removed that as a positive catalyst in our FY 'twenty four thesis. Thus, while we continue to expect solid growth for the second half, we have prudently narrowed our full year 2024 outlook to the bottom half of our previous range.

Speaker 2

In closing, we continue to be positive about the back half of the year. In terms of innovation, we have a robust product roadmap in place. We eagerly anticipate our upcoming product launches, which are happening across all three segments of our business. And we are confident that these new products, coupled with our spec share gains in the OEM market will drive growth in the second half of the year. As we navigate this cycle, we remain focused on managing the elements of business that we can control, while playing to our strengths, which include balanced growth through improved diversification, a deep technological moat that is advanced by our unwavering commitment to innovation and our ability to deliver free cash flow through the cycle, which allows opportunistic share repurchases and management of our capital structure.

Speaker 2

And with that, I'll turn the call over to Dennis.

Speaker 3

Thanks, Mike, and good afternoon, everyone. I'll begin by discussing our Q1 financial results and then move to our balance sheet and cash flows, capital structure strategy and then wrap up with a review of our guidance. Total consolidated net sales in the Q1 of fiscal 2024 were 333,500,000, a decrease of 16.6% versus sales of $399,900,000 in the Q1 of fiscal 2023. Our performance continues reflect the temporary and unique challenges that exist within the various industries we serve. Our gross margin was 30.9% in the Q1 of fiscal 2024 compared to 33.3% in the same quarter last year.

Speaker 3

The decrease in gross margin was primarily driven by shifts in our product line mix and reduced operating leverage on lower volumes across our 3 segments, partially offset by increased efficiencies at our North American facilities and cost controls. Adjusted gross margin, which excludes the effects of amortization of acquired inventory valuation markup, decreased to 32.3% in the Q1 of fiscal 2024 versus 34.1% in the prior year. Total operating expenses were 94 point $3,000,000 or 28.3 percent of net sales in the Q1 of fiscal 2024 compared to $78,600,000 or 19.7 percent of net sales in the same quarter last year. The increase in operating expenses as a percentage of sales was attributed to the inclusion of operating expenses from our Custom Wheelhouse and Marucci acquisitions and the amortization of acquired intangibles. Excluding these acquisitions, our base organic operating expenses decreased by approximately $8,800,000 driven by cost controls and continuous improvement.

Speaker 3

Adjusted operating expenses as a percentage of sales increased to 24.1% in the Q1 of 2024 compared to 17.6% in the same period last year. Company's tax benefit was 1,300,000 fiscal 2024 compared to a tax expense of $9,400,000 in the Q1 of fiscal 2023. The tax benefit was primarily due to a decrease in pretax income coupled with a onetime foreign tax credit adjustment. Net loss in the Q1 of fiscal 2024 was $3,500,000 or $0.08 per diluted share compared to net income of $41,800,000 or $0.98 per diluted share in the same quarter last year. And adjusted net income was $11,900,000 or $0.29 per diluted share compared to 51,000,000 dollars or $1.20 per diluted share in the Q1 last year.

Speaker 3

Adjusted EBITDA was $40,400,000 for the Q1 of fiscal 2024 compared to $79,200,000 in the same quarter last year. Adjusted EBITDA margin was 12.1 percent in the Q1 of fiscal 2024 compared to 19.8% in the Q1 of fiscal 2024. The decrease in our adjusted EBITDA margin reflects the temporary and unique challenges that our customers across various industries are facing, which is impacting volumes and fixed cost absorption at our facilities. Other drivers of our adjusted EBITDA margin performance include shifts in our portfolio mix and cost increases associated with our facilities expansion to support growth, partially offset by cost control measures and continuous improvement initiatives. Sequentially, we delivered a 40 basis point improvement in EBITDA margin to 12.1% on the strength of aftermarket sales and our cost control measures.

Speaker 3

Moving to the balance sheet and cash flows. Sheet continues to be a source of strength for Fox and underpins our capital allocation strategy. In the Q1, we were able to reduce inventory by 17 point $9,000,000 or 5% compared to year end 2023 driven by our strong execution of continuous improvement efforts to optimize inventory levels across the organization, particularly within PPG. Our net leverage is 2.9 times as of quarter end and in line with our expectations. Our flexible capital structure gives us the ability to invest in growth through R and D, CapEx and sales and marketing and pay down debt while providing the optionality to repurchase shares.

Speaker 3

Our revolver balance as of March 29, 2024 was $392,000,000 versus $370,000,000 as of December 29, 2023. Our Term Loan A balance was approximately $370,000,000 net of loan fees. During the Q1 fiscal 2024, we incurred $70,000,000 of debt on our revolver to support working capital, which included $24,000,000 in prepaid chassis, partially offset by $48,000,000 in payments on our revolver and $3,600,000 in payments on our term loan. During the Q1, we repurchased approximately $25,000,000 in shares and we have a remaining balance of 250,000,000 dollars on our $300,000,000 share repurchase authorization. Now I would like to share some select guidance.

Speaker 3

While we continue to expect solid growth for the second half of twenty twenty four, we are tempering our prior assumption for meaningful interest rate relief. And out of prudence, we have narrowed our full year 2024 outlook to the bottom half of the previous range. As a result, we now expect fiscal 2024 full year sales in the range of $1,530,000,000 to 1.6 $1,000,000,000 and adjusted earnings per diluted share in the range of $2.30 to $2.55 Our full year guidance continues to assume our income tax rate to be in the range of 15% to 18%. For the Q2 of 2024, we expect sales in the range of $340,000,000 to $360,000,000 and adjusted earnings per diluted share of $0.30 to $0.40 There are several drivers underpinning this sequential improvement, including bike OEs gearing up for model year 2025 releases, improving chassis mix and availability and the new model year launch for our Rams. Our Q2 guidance is consistent with our operating plan at the beginning of the year, which had baked in a year over year decline in the first half of 2024 before returning to growth in the second half of twenty twenty four.

Speaker 3

As 2025 aspirations in the second half of this year when we have more visibility. Our entire team at Fox Factory remains focused on controlling the aspects of the business that we can in order to keep our business optimally positioned to reaccelerate growth as industry conditions improve. With that, I'd like to turn the call back over to Mike.

Speaker 2

Thank you, Dennis. Thank you all for joining us today. We appreciate your time and interest in Fox. To recap, we navigated through some significant industry headwinds in the Q1, but our diversified business model and strategic growth initiatives have allowed us to remain resilient and on plan for the year. We are particularly excited about the strong performance of Mergy, its attractive margin profile and the long term growth potential it brings to our portfolio.

Speaker 2

Looking ahead, we are optimistic about the back half of the year based on a robust product roadmap and consequently, we expect growth to be driven by spec share gains in the bike OEM market, strength in aftermarket including Maruchi and new product launches in AEG and PPG. I would now like to open the call for questions. Operator?

Operator

Thank you, Mr. We'll go first this afternoon to Larry Solow of CJS Securities.

Speaker 4

Great. Good afternoon, guys. First question, I guess, just on the guidance, it sounds like Q1 was relatively in line and in Q2, it sounds like in line with where you originally expected. So just on the back half lowering, strictly everything mostly the same plus and minuses ex the fact that interest rates are clearly we don't see any indication of lowering anytime soon. Is that the biggest mitigating factor there?

Speaker 4

And is that impact can you just help us with that impact more in AAG than the other 2? Is it sort of spread out? And just trying to get some feel for that too. Thanks.

Speaker 5

Yes, Larry, it's a good question. For us, the back half is in line with us from a product launch perspective and from a market share perspective. So everything that we had intended for the year in the back half is in play and on plan. The difference is really just that accelerator that the macro or the interest rate reduction would have given us that would have been the top end of that guide. And to your question, I think that really does affect us most in probably 2 predominant areas.

Speaker 5

It does affect everything. Frankly, interest rates at a high level is a damper to, excuse the pun, to all the things in a discretionary consumer purchasing habit. But for the most part in the back half of the year, we're going to feel the most of that is going to be in powersports and in AEG around upfit trucks. So that's kind of what we've tempered in the back half relative to again fully just the interest rate issue itself.

Speaker 4

And you're getting more into that customized more higher content stuff. You think over time those folks that target are not necessarily impacted as much by the interest rates?

Speaker 5

Yes, that's correct. And I think with the Fox Factory truck launch, we're seeing demand on that vehicle coming directly to us, not even through dealers, which is a sign that the further you go in performance and content, the better off you're going to be.

Speaker 4

Okay. And just lastly, just on the bike market, I think you had thought this will be the bottom this side. Sounds like you're confident we're at the bottom. What gives you that confidence? And do we kind of bounce around the bottom?

Speaker 4

Or do you think we kind of bounce off that bottom and materially over the next few quarters? Thanks.

Speaker 5

So I'll tell you Q1 is interesting. It's actually above what we had forecasted for the quarter, but slightly above. It's the Q1 in a long time that we actually were able to predict the business effectively, which is a great sign. 2nd great sign is Q2 is already booked above Q1. So bookings mean a lot for us.

Speaker 5

We stopped as you have heard me talk about before that a forecast got hard to follow because they weren't accurate. Bookings are more accurate and having bookings in Q2 already above Q1 is a great step forward. The third thing, frankly, is just the product launch. We've got 3x the product launches this year in bike that we've had in the past on any given year. And the prep and the stuff in the bike team is noticeable.

Speaker 5

I mean, the team really is starting to feel better about the business and the customers and the health of the customers, especially customers in Europe And all that kind of attributes to feeling a lot better about Q2 and even seeing some positive signs already for Q3. So yes, Q1 is right where we thought it would be. Q2, I think, is right where we think it's going to be and we're hopefully turning the corner and back on the gas.

Speaker 3

Okay, great. Thanks. I appreciate the color.

Speaker 4

We'll go

Operator

next now to Jim Duffy at Stifel.

Speaker 4

Thank you. Hi, Mike, Dennis, Tobey. Hope you guys are doing well.

Speaker 5

Hi, Doug. I'll

Speaker 4

focus it to 2 questions. One last one on the auto OEM dimension of the PVG business and I have a question on gross margin. The PVG group numbers in the quarter were a little bit better than we thought. If I heard you correctly, it seems like the entirety of the year to year decline was due to power sports. Is that accurate?

Speaker 5

Got it. I would say majority. Everything else is kind of immaterial, but powersports is the largest decline.

Speaker 2

End of growth

Speaker 5

throughout the quarter, frankly, from beginning to end. So it was a consistent decline too.

Speaker 4

Understood. And then on the auto OEM production schedules, can you just help us with what you saw in the Q1 and then your visibility on auto OEM production for the balance of the year. I'm curious, is the guide assume just a ramp in existing platforms or is there any consideration for new platforms on the auto OEM front in the balance of the year?

Speaker 5

Yes, Jim, our guide is fundamentally what's already in play. As you know, there's long duration cycles to get designs to production. So we can see that there's years in advance. And so we have a pretty good view of what this year will look like from product launches and from the vehicles we have in play today. Frankly, our automotive business has stayed very consistent.

Speaker 5

As you know, we're on kind of limited production vehicles with the Raptor Series and TRD Pro. Those vehicles tend to weather the storm very well and we've seen that materialize in their forecast and their actual pull of material. So that feels pretty good for us right now.

Speaker 4

Okay, good. And then Dennis, I wanted to ask on gross margins, assuming Maruchi did its thing on gross margins with the accretive contribution. The report implies some pretty big margin compression in the organic business. What I'm trying to get my arms around is how much of that is mix versus regular wave pressure? And then within that regular wave pressure, how much of it's fixed cost deleverage?

Speaker 4

Or is there something else we should be considering with respect to the gross margins as we try to think about normalization?

Speaker 3

Yes. So two things here. So one, Marucci delivered right on track across the board margins in place exactly where we thought they would be. Their new product launches, strength of the business continues to impress. So back on Marucci, so getting back to base business, it comes down to volume.

Speaker 3

It all comes down to operating leverage both in those plans and then from the OpEx standpoint. So we were pretty much coming right in line forecast and it's all about how do we optimize these plants. And so you heard it in my commentary, you heard it in Mike's commentary, we're continuing to look for cost outs. And we were very delighted to see those cost improvements coming in a big way in Q1 to help offset these volume declines that we have been seeing. And we continue to think that we're going to see them through the year as we start to ramp back up because our cost structure will lag the volume growth that we're going to be seeing.

Speaker 3

So it will actually serve as a slight tailwind for us as we progress through the year. The trick in all of this is not to cut too deep because we expect this business to turn around and to ramp back up. And so we want to hold on to the really good people. And so what we've been doing is really looking at when somebody leaves, are they non revenue generated or are they revenue generating? If they're revenue generating, we're going to take a decision to backfill.

Speaker 3

If they're not, we're going to see what we can do to hold off until it's absolutely necessary to add somebody. And so we've been absolutely militant on the cost front.

Speaker 4

Okay, helpful. And then final clarification question. I think in the prepared remarks, there was a comment about PVG inventories. Is this related to inventories on your books or was that relating more to channel inventories? I understand, but

Speaker 3

Yes, twofold. So if it were in my for under my section, it would be about us continuing to make improvements in inventory within PBG and we're absolutely taking out inventory and reducing that commensurate with the decline in the business. So we're managing the working capital extremely well. I think on the demand side, if it were there, then we're talking about like powersports inventory challenges in the channel, which we expect to get cleared up by year end as there's a lot of focus on this with the likes of Polaris and BRP and helping dealers manage that inventory. So it could have been 2 points where you heard inventories.

Speaker 4

Understood. Thank you for that clarification. Okay.

Operator

Thank you. We go next now to Anna Glaskin at B. Riley.

Speaker 6

Hi, good afternoon guys.

Speaker 3

Hey, Anna.

Speaker 6

I'd like to touch back on bikes. Between the first half implied guidance in the second half, we are expecting to see a pretty big improvement in the back half as the model year 2025 launches. Clearly, expectations have been a bit fluid in this segment as the industry works through channel inventories. Can you speak to where do channel inventory stand today and how much improvement you need to see to really meet the expectations for this business in the back half?

Speaker 5

Yes, Anna. The inventory improvement is mixed across the board within OEMs. The more boutique or smaller bike manufacturers, European bike manufacturers specifically have done a great job. They're already through all these inventory challenges and they're going fairly quickly in the volume of 25 and pushing us pretty hard. In fact, pushing us beyond some of our current inventory levels.

Speaker 5

So we're chasing some inventory, which is a nice place to be. That's pretty clear and really clean. Other bigger, larger OEMs are working through it and some are getting pretty close and some are still a little ways away. So it's a bit of a mixed bag. We've kind of taken that whole conglomerate or aggregation of all these different customers into our guide and into our forecast for this year.

Speaker 5

And again, what we started to do end of last year was take a look at those forecasts from OEMs and give them a pretty significant haircut as to what we think they would actually do. And that helped us in Q1. As I said in an earlier comment, we actually delivered Q1 right above the plan we had for Q1. So getting that confidence back in the team and the ability to plan the business is really important to us. And I think that's happening and happening for sure in Q1.

Speaker 6

Thanks, Mike. And yes, I know last year particularly you were dealing with a lot of last minute cancellations. I guess is that is it fair to say that dynamic has eased a bit in 2024?

Speaker 5

That has. Yes, that has eased. We're starting to place purchase orders out a little bit further again. And again, the whole chasing inventory to meet demand is a great place for us to be. So seeing some of that pressure, positive pressure on the system is really good.

Speaker 5

It's still too early. We're still in the woods. So we're not calling victory wrap yet on bike, but we just again seeing the positivity in the team, seeing the positivity in the market

Speaker 6

I think I think in the quarter grew in the low single digits based on Cody's prior disclosures. Now that you've owned the business for 6 months or so, can you give a little bit of an update on what the go forward growth opportunity should be there?

Speaker 5

Yes. I mean, again, they delivered a little bit above the plan in Q1. They've got solid product launches the balance of this year to get above the plan or at the plan for the balance of the year. And frankly, we think this is a double digit growth business for us. So kind of you should park it somewhere in the low double digits and we think we can go from there.

Speaker 5

We've got a lot of exciting things coming on the North Sea side of the business and frankly we're going to unlock some doors and create some new opportunities from that business organically.

Speaker 3

Yes, we're excited about the growth there both Marucci and Victus. So Victus is an important part of the bat composition as well. And just, yes, again, not be more delighted with the EBITDA profile as well that we continue to see.

Speaker 6

Great. Thanks, guys.

Operator

We'll next now to Bret Jordan at Jefferies.

Speaker 7

Hey, guys. On the overhead,

Speaker 3

I guess if you look at the

Speaker 8

year over year addition from Custom Wheelhouse and Marucci, is there much synergy available or cost to take out as you integrate those businesses or are you going to run them with the incremental overhead?

Speaker 5

Greg, on the fringe, there's probably some opportunities, but not significant. Where the opportunity really lies with the Medici acquisition is in the supply chain. I've talked about that in the past, where we think some of our factory management structure, some of our vertical integration, how we think about design, some of those synergies can still be had. And we never planned them for early 'twenty four. We're starting to work on those projects now and I think that's more material in 'twenty five.

Speaker 5

But we do think there's some long term synergies in that part of the business. In fact, I think back office not front office.

Speaker 3

And to add on that, we haven't talked about this in a long time, but last year we talked about these acquisitions being some acquisitions being OpEx heavy, CapEx light. And in this particular case both with Marucci and Custom Warehouse, these are more OpEx heavy businesses, CapEx light businesses and they are delivering right on track. So we are very, very pleased with the models that we have there with both companies.

Speaker 8

Okay. And could you talk about the cadence of what you're seeing in powersports? Are we as the quarter progressed at the channel level, are you seeing inventory clearing and demand and conversion picking up? Or is it still sort of soft, but maybe getting softer at the consumer level given rates and all the headwinds?

Speaker 5

I think it's still soft. I wouldn't say it's picking up yet. I think it's seasonal depending on the product as well. So obviously we had a bad snow season, so snowmobile sales were way off. We've got a new snowmobile launch this year, so this upcoming season is better depending on the snow.

Speaker 5

But in each of these and side by sides, it's a bit of a mix, but I'd say it's soft and we're expecting it to be soft for the next probably 2 quarters.

Speaker 4

Okay, great.

Speaker 9

Thank you.

Speaker 3

And this is a great point because Power Networks came in hard with order books and strong order books and throughout that Q1 what did we see. They just kept pulling it back, pulling it back, pulling it down. And so this is why Mike in his opening comments talked so heavily about diversification, diversification into aftermarket and why it's so strategically important to us because it gives us that ability to exert control, be relevant, create new and different markets. And this is what Marucci does for us. Diversification model that Mike has put in place.

Speaker 3

And you know, let's just give you an upgrade. For

Speaker 5

interestingly enough, Greg, a point on the PowerStore side, what we did in that space is we actually started our own outfit side by side business in conjunction with Polaris and others. And that is the premium end of content and vehicle pricing that we talk about in automotive, where it's more resilient absolute buyers. And we're seeing strength in that business that middle market kind of lower cost type vehicles in subside is insane. So I do think with performance and content, you can get around the corner of some of the softness and some of this high interest rate challenge by delivering a premium product that people really want to have and are willing to stay in line to get.

Speaker 9

Thank you.

Operator

And we'll go next now to Mike Swartz of Truist.

Speaker 9

Hey, guys. Good evening.

Speaker 5

Good morning.

Speaker 9

Just wanted to start on the bike side. And if we go back over the past 18 months, I think to frame it at a high level, visibility has been the biggest challenge. It does sound now like you might have better visibility than you did 3 months ago, but I just wanted to tie your commentary into something that another public supplier Shimano had called out a couple of weeks back talking about they thought the industry would bottom in the Q3 and maybe start to to return to growth in the Q4, but it sounds like you're thinking bottoming is more Q1, Q2. Is that any discrepancies or any other thoughts or colors between those two columns?

Speaker 5

Yes, Mike, we look at Shimano pretty closely, so we understand the same comments that they're calling out. Again, very different space than we are. We're very niche. We're very premium high end. And I think when we look at the overall bike market in general, their statements are probably pretty accurate.

Speaker 5

When it comes to our business, I think it can be different. And so I think you're off only by a couple of quarters or a quarter or 2, which might be a reflection of just where we sit in the market versus where they do. I mean they're in the high end as well, but they're in the entire line of bikes, not just the high end. So I think that's the difference. And again, I don't Q2 is not going to be we're not looking to knock it out of the park in Q2, but we're looking to be predictable and go into a quarter feeling comfortable that we're going to hit the number that we projected and we're feeling good about that.

Speaker 5

And that's the start to the turnaround in my mind.

Speaker 9

Okay, great. Thanks for the color there. And then second question is something I picked up in the press release just as it pertains to the prepaid. I think you made a comment about older model inventory or prepaid being one of the challenges right now. But is there any commentary you can add to that or how to think about the percentage of your prepaid that's older model chassis versus new model chassis?

Speaker 9

I'm just wondering if that has any impact in potential risk to margins in the back half of the year?

Speaker 3

Yes. Any type of prepaid balance right now would be associated with newer models coming on board. So no real risk there. I think we mentioned the prepaid status just because that is an increase in our working capital and a hit to free cash flow for us. But we talk about that because this is the season when we actually have those prepaids build.

Speaker 5

That makes sense?

Speaker 9

Yes, yes. Thanks.

Speaker 5

Mike, I think the other thing to think about there too is in Q1, we had to incentivize we worked with our dealers to make sure inventory that was aging was moving across their lot, getting out their lot. And this is kind of a constant thing that we think about as we want to get into the new vehicle years and value changes. So some of that pressure in Q1 was a function of us helping us sell those deals to move those vehicles. I think that's really just around margin changeover, which happens Q1, Q2 this year and kind of through it.

Speaker 9

Got you. Thanks, Mike.

Operator

Thank you. And we'll take our final question today from Scott Stember of ROTH

Speaker 7

Good evening and thanks for taking my questions.

Speaker 5

Hey, Scott.

Speaker 7

Question about the launch for the 25 bike products. You did say that it should be 3 times more than, I guess, than what you've done in recent years. Given what's still in the pipeline in the bike market and knowing dealers, I guess, still they're going to be very cautious, I guess, with floor plan and interest rates about how much inventory they bring in. What are you looking at as far as like the size of this actual launch despite the fact or taking into account that you're talking about 3 times? Are we looking at something that's bigger than what you've done pre pandemic or something a little bit more scaled back and modest?

Speaker 5

Scott, Scott, I think you're referring to volume per

Speaker 7

Yes, yes, yes, yes. Yes. All volumes.

Speaker 5

Yes. So I think it's a good question. So on the volume, we're still being pretty conservative in what we think these launches will deliver and that shows up in kind of guide for the year. Just based on the nature of the environment that you kind of described, I would tell you what we're seeing in our conversations with dealers and distributors is if it's new product, if it's interesting and different, you're not having to discount it and customers want it. If you're really just retrading the same stuff that was on the shelf last year and year before, you're heavily discounting when people are walking past it because they just they've already got it in the garage.

Speaker 5

They just don't need it. But if it's something new and different, they want it and that's what's so exciting. We've got a couple of launches that have already been pretty productive for us and compelling relative to the demand on those products. So I think in our space right now on bike, new and different is everything. If you can't come up with something new and exciting, you're going to have a challenge.

Speaker 5

So that's what makes us so excited about the 3x product launches. But again, I think on the volume for product launch, we'll stay pretty conservative on what we think they'll actually do until we see the results.

Speaker 7

Got it. And then just the last question about the upfitting or I guess the Fox Factory branded upfitting in trucks and side by sides. Maybe just give us a little more context of how that will fit in to the individual platforms and what your expectations are for contribution, if you can hear that.

Speaker 5

Yes, absolutely. Thanks for it. So in side by side upfitting, we're really talking about creating a class of vehicles in either the race content or in the luxury UTV space that are well above what you get purchased from a factory kind of production vehicle on a dealer floor. That's been exciting for us because we're reaching out to customers directly and through dealerships to sell those vehicles and we think that's kind of a different model. Same thing with the Fox Factory truck.

Speaker 5

We actually concierge service now where you can contact us directly to put a deposit down in that truck. Now ultimately transact that truck through a dealer near that individual or somewhere in the country. But we're getting direct connection to the customer that's purchasing a truck in that environment and that's a new thing for us. So that's pretty exciting. We think as we expand those vehicles in both automotive and in side by side that that just continues to grow and expand and create kind of a new channel for us in how we market our high end vehicles.

Speaker 5

So pretty positive step for

Speaker 7

us. And then on the truck side, just as a last question, are you worried about any potential cannibalization or will this be so far up the food chain that there'll be no overlap?

Speaker 5

Pretty far up the food chain. I had a lot of conversations when we launched the Fox Factory truck with OEMs. It actually brought demand to us. Other OEMs came to us and said, hey, that's pretty cool. We would like to actually talk about doing something like that with you.

Speaker 5

So it's actually opened some doors interestingly enough. And it's so high up in kind of that pinnacle or that pyramid of vehicles that it doesn't it's not in the same business as our Shelby business or anything else. It's different than that and exciting for I think the entire market.

Speaker 7

Got it. That's all I have. Thank you.

Speaker 5

Thanks Scott. Thank you.

Operator

Thank you. And at this time, Mr. Dennison, I'd like to turn things back to you sir for any closing comments.

Speaker 5

Thanks, Bob. I want to thank everyone for taking the time to join us tonight, and we will keep you guys updated as we progress through the quarter and look forward to talking to you soon. Have a good evening.

Operator

Thank you again, Mr. Dennison. Again, ladies and gentlemen, that does conclude today's Fox Factory Holding Corporation's Q1 fiscal 2024 earnings call. Again, thanks so much for joining us. We wish you all a great evening.

Operator

Goodbye.

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