Turning Point Brands Q1 2024 Earnings Call Transcript

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May 2, 2024

There are 7 speakers on the call.

Operator

Good morning, and welcome to Turning Point Brands First Quarter 2024 Earnings Conference Call. All participants are in a listen only mode. After the speakers' presentation, we will conduct a question and answer session. As a reminder, this conference call is being recorded. I would now like to turn the call over to Graham Purdy, Chief Executive Officer.

Operator

Thank you. Please go ahead.

Speaker 1

Thank you. Good morning, everyone. This is Graham Purdy, Chief Executive Officer. Joining me are Turning Point Brands' new CFO, Andrew Flynn and Chief Revenue Officer, Summer Freyne. I want to wish a special welcome to Andrew.

Speaker 1

Please understand that he didn't join the company until immediately after the March quarter concluded. So please take it easy on him.

Speaker 2

Thank you, Graham. Good morning. It's great to be with you today. First, I want to thank the entire organization for the opportunity. I'm thrilled to join the company and lend my support given my experiences at both Connected Cannabis and Jewel Labs.

Speaker 2

2nd, while early in my journey here, I've been impressed by the management team and the strength of our brands. Over the past few weeks, I've been highly engaged in getting up to speed. My early conclusions are that we have a strong foundation to build on and I am excited to capitalize on our opportunities ahead to help build stakeholder value. I look forward to sharing more in the quarters ahead. With that, let's dive into the quarter.

Speaker 2

This morning we issued a news release covering our Q1 results. This release is located in the IR section of our website atwww.turningpointbrands.com. During this call, we will discuss our consolidated and segment operating results and provide our perspective on the operating environment and our progress against our strategic plan. As is customary, I direct your attention to the discussion of forward looking and cautionary statements in today's press release and the risk factors in our filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission. On the call today, we will reference certain non GAAP financial measures.

Speaker 2

These measures and reconciliations to GAAP can be found in today's earnings release along with the reasons why management believes that they provide useful information. I will now turn the call over to our CEO, Graham Purdy.

Speaker 1

Thanks, Andrew. With all that said, good morning, everyone, and thank you for joining our call. Our Q1 results were in line with and in some cases better than our expectations and demonstrated continued progress against our plan. Adjusted EBITDA increased 21.6 percent to $25,300,000 for the quarter. During the March quarter, Zig Zag performed very well with revenue up 11.5 percent to $46,700,000 driven by strong double digit growth in our Zig Zag Papers and alternative channel business.

Speaker 1

As we mentioned last quarter, we think we're past the noise associated with the trade inventory rationalizations we discussed last year and we anticipate the backdrop is favorable for growth in 2024 and we demonstrated just that in Q1. We are encouraged by our wholesale customers and retail customers' response to our expanding portfolio and some of our recent new product introductions. We remain committed to our alternative channel strategy and are efficiently filling out our customers' portfolio to better satisfy the growing and evolving demand from end consumers. Both factors are expanding our addressable market. We are having success not only winning new untapped alternative customers across the brick and mortar and alternative distributor network, but we are also seeing existing alt customers buying a more complete Zig Zag portfolio.

Speaker 1

As a result, we've seen healthy increases in average order sizes across the alternative space while providing the Zig Zag brand with more valuable shelf space and merchandising real estate within these stores to build brand awareness as we satisfy evolving in consumer preferences. Considering that many of our competitors offer far fewer SKUs than Zig Zag, we're finding that the alt channel is actively looking for partners that provide service above and beyond ordinary fulfillment and we're one of the few companies that can truly meet the needs of the evolving end customer. In addition to our full suite of product offerings from a well known brand like Zig Zag from papers, cones, accessories and apparel, There is a growing appetite to sell our wraps, cigars and modern oral nicotine in stores and distributors that cater to this growing channel. As you know, the alternative channel is consistently expanding by virtue of additional states green lighting medical and recreational cannabis, as well as attempts to provide a better shopping experience for consumers. In addition to more legal dispensaries and manufacturing and processing facilities, other retail outlets like head shops are drafting off this trend.

Speaker 1

Our alternative B2B business saw continued momentum in Q1, accelerating from the growth we saw throughout 2023, growing over 60% in the quarter. Moving to Stoecker's, during the quarter Stoecker's revenue increased 8% to $36,400,000 reflecting a 4.6% decline in loose leaf and a 6.7% increase in MST. Please recall that for the Q4 of 2023, we out a likely unsustainable 18.6% increase in total Stoker's revenue. We continue to be pleased with the market share increases for Stoker's which continues to be a steady growth engine with a long runway for volume growth and favorable pricing dynamics. We are pleased with the market's enthusiastic response to the beginning of our national launch of free, our modern oral so called white pouch product.

Speaker 1

As you can appreciate, given that we are in the early innings of growing our presence in this category, we will limit specific operating metrics around free. However, we are seeing positive momentum and we are excited about the opportunity to make free a material contributor to revenue and profit growth in the Stoker segment. Buoyed by a category that's already worth over $2,000,000,000 in annual wholesale revenue and grew over 50% last year per MSAI, we are currently focusing on prudently ramping up our sales and distribution efforts to achieve steady growth over time. We are leveraging our sales and distribution expertise to profitably expand free profile and store count similar to what we achieved with Stoker's MST over time. In addition to our traditional channel, we're also seeing alt channel demand for our free modern oral nicotine product, even if many of these stores don't sell traditional tobacco products.

Speaker 1

I mentioned this because the dynamic may not be intuitive for some of you, but it speaks volume to the synergies that TPV brings to bear with our world class sales, service and distribution platform. We look forward to providing updates on this exciting new product in the quarters and years to come. Given our solid start to the year, we are reaffirming our guidance for projected 2024 adjusted EBITDA in the range of $95,000,000 to 100,000,000 dollars Of note, our guidance range contemplated no contribution from CVS, which generated approximately $600,000 of adjusted EBITDA during the Q1 and about $2,000,000 full year EBITDA in 2023. A reminder that last year we closed on our ABL facility which with cash on hand and free cash flow generation gives us ample liquidity to address our convert maturity this summer while providing flexibility for capital deployment. With that, let me hand the call over to Summer to walk through some progress and results of some of our specific go to market initiatives.

Speaker 3

Thank you, Graham. Throughout Q4, we continued to further Zig Zag's position as a lifestyle brand by executing against our multi year roadmap. Our focus on growing Zig Zag portfolio in the alternative channel, while increasing the brand's ubiquity remains a core tenant of that plan. As Graham noted, Zig Zag posted a strong quarter fueled by our papers and a record quarter for our alternative B2B channel. Within alternative B2B, our focus on penetrating cannabis first points of distribution from organized MSOs and dispensaries, manufacturers and the head shops and smoke shops continues to be a strong barometer for the underlying growth in the industry and as importantly, our commitment to capitalize on this secular trend.

Speaker 3

To further Zig Zag's growth as a lifestyle brand that resonates with our ever evolving consumer base, the brand created numerous engaging opportunities throughout the quarter. Beginning with Valentine's Day, Zig Zag partnered with 30 plus celebrities by hand delivering custom flower bouquets, which integrated Zig Zags rose cones into a bouquet design. Our rose cones continue to be a popular addition to the portfolio, which we are leaning into and provide the brand with meaningful opportunities such as this. The most notable event for the quarter however was coming together with the world's largest hip hop and rap music festival Rolling Loud, which celebrated its 10 year anniversary this year. Across 4 days, thousands and thousands of music lovers came together to embrace the festival's culture.

Speaker 3

Zig Zag worked with over 90 celebrity partners by developing custom Zig Zag and Rolling Loud merchandise and working with nearly 200 influencers to promote the partnership during the 4 day event. Among signage across all digital screens in the venue, Zig Zag had a custom 40x40 pop up shop that invited attendees to interact with the brand, sample and purchase products as well and learn more about Zig Zag's history in future. We look forward to continuing to provide updates that highlight the momentum and efforts that support Zig Zag's growth. Turning to Stoker's, we are pleased with the results especially coming off of a strong Q4. We are focused on continuing to expand distribution for the brand and continue to see the brand resonate with consumers, particularly given the evolving macroeconomic backdrop.

Speaker 3

For free, our sales and marketing organizations are keenly focused on building a brand that will resonate with consumers for the long term. We made progress in the quarter across both brick and mortar stores and digital marketplaces, both our own B2C and other parties' websites. In addition to the traditional brick and mortar channel, which we know well, we have been building our e commerce business for an extended period of time, enabling us to be closer to the end consumer. We continue to see month over month revenue increases and impressive returning consumer metrics on our B2C site. The receptivity and engagement from our trade partners and with consumers continues to reinforce that our product quality, moisture content, pouch size and differentiated nicotine offerings are a powerful selling proposition.

Speaker 3

In summary, we continue building our brands for the long term, executing against the plan we've established and growing our business in retail and with our consumers. We will continue to focus on maximizing the value of our world class brands and strengthening our extensive distribution capabilities. Let me now turn the call back over to Andrew to go through our results.

Speaker 2

Thank you, Summer. Starting with our consolidated quarterly results. Q1 sales were down 3.9 percent to $97,100,000 which is flat on a sequential basis. Excluding CVS, overall revenue was up 10%. Gross margin was up 5.30 basis points to 53.5 percent due to favorable segment and product mix.

Speaker 2

Adjusted EBITDA was up 21 point 6% to $25,300,000 Going into segment performance, Zig Zag sales increased 11.5% year over year to $46,700,000 due to strength in our papers business and continued penetration of the alt channel as mentioned. As noted, the alternative B2B channel had a strong quarter. This is critical given our aim to be everywhere our consumer is and we couldn't be more pleased with the job the Alt team is doing to expand the depth and breadth of our distribution to this important channel. Our Canadian business provided an approximate $800,000 headwind due to previously mentioned discontinuation

Speaker 1

of the low

Speaker 2

margin third party product line. Gross margins increased 5 50 basis points to 59% during the quarter. This was driven primarily by product mix, including the discontinuation of the low margin product line. Stoker's net sales increased 8% to $36,400,000 in the quarter with a 0.2% volume increase and 7.9 percent pricemix increase. Net sales for the MSP portfolio grew 6.7%.

Speaker 2

Stoker's volume was up 1.2% despite category volume down 8.5% with share growing 70 basis points year over year to 7.1% during the quarter according to MSAI. Its share in store selling was up 100 basis points year over year to 10.7 percent with Stoker's now in stores representing approximately 2 thirds of industry volumes, which still provides a long runway for growth. Chew sales were down mid single digits from the previous year. Soker's chew was the number one chewing brand in the quarter, gaining 140 basis points of share to 31.1% according to MSAI. Overall, TPB loose leaf volume was down 5.2%, still beating category volume declines of 6.9%.

Speaker 2

Category performance was driven by a larger decline in premium loose leaf with TPD's volume benefiting from consumer trade down as Stoker's volumes grew from the previous year. Our free sales more than tripled off a low base as we continue national distribution of the product. Gross margin declined 60 basis points to 57.2%, primarily due to product mix somewhat offset by MST pricing gains. Moving to CVS, sales were $14,000,000 gross margin was 25.4 percent, adjusted EBITDA was approximately $600,000 Now on to the balance sheet. We ended the quarter with just over $130,000,000 of cash on the balance sheet.

Speaker 2

And as of today we have sufficient cash to address the maturity of our remaining $118,500,000 convertible notes due July 2024. With our projected free cash flow generation this year, we are well within our previously discussed historical leverage range and are comfortable with our liquidity to enable shareholder value. On to guidance, This morning, we are reaffirming our expectation of consolidated adjusted EBITDA of $95,000,000 to $100,000,000 Other projections include effective income tax rate of 23% to 26%. We expect CapEx to be approximately $15,000,000 this year. We currently expect to spend approximately $4,000,000 for the full year to supplement our PMTAs related to our modern oral products, which remain under review by the FDA.

Speaker 2

Now let me turn it back over to Graham.

Speaker 1

To conclude, we feel like we're off to a solid start to the year with Zig Zag returning to growth, ongoing solid performance at Stoker's and encouraging early signs from our national launch of free. With that, I'll turn it over to questions.

Operator

Our first question will come from Eric De L'Oreal from Craig Hallum Capital Group. Please go ahead. Your line is open.

Speaker 4

Great. Thank you for taking my questions and congrats on strong results here. Thanks, Eric. First one is just a clarifying question from me. So you highlighted B2B growth of 60% within Zig Zag.

Speaker 4

And I just wanted to clarify, is that all

Speaker 3

channel.

Speaker 4

That's very impressive. Within the alternative channel, just kind of sticking with Zig Zag here. So it seems like you've obviously made great progress over the past few years sort of getting into these new doors and you've commented a bit on some of the competitive dynamics in terms of gaining shelf space. I'm just wondering if you could expand on those a bit, kind of talk about how your products or your offerings kind of stack up against the sort of evolving competitive set here. I think you mentioned you guys feel pretty well positioned in terms of number of SKUs.

Speaker 4

But just any additional color in terms of SKU counts or service levels or just the overall competitive dynamics or opportunities you see to sort of increase in share within this alternative channel? Thanks.

Operator

Yes, sure. Thanks, Eric, for

Speaker 3

your question. I think it's important to know from a year over year perspective, you might remember that we're benefiting from a comp perspective just to level set from some trade dynamics from last year. But still the projections for Zig Zag are in line with our expectations if you take that out of it. In terms of the portfolio, as you know, we continue to monitor what consumers are interested in as the category is evolving and staying ahead of those consumer expectations and really balancing that against the profitability of introducing new products into the market, so we can continue to generate new news for Zig Zag. We introduced some products earlier this year and have a number on the horizon, but it's something we're continuing to really make sure that we're in line with the consumer and where they're going.

Operator

Our next question will come from Michael Legg from The Benchmark Company. Please go ahead. Your line is open.

Speaker 5

Thanks and good morning. Great quarter guys. Thanks Michael. Can you talk a little bit about the margin impact in the Zig Zag segment from the clipper stocking last year where we are today and how much of the margin improvement is from the elimination of the clipper stocking versus margin improvement overall?

Speaker 1

Yes. Look, Mike, I think it's challenging from a year over year perspective given that the majority of what happened in Q1 last year was impact around our high margin items in our traditional convenience store channel. And so this year, obviously, we didn't have that same headwind from a marginal perspective. So it's really just the catch up on the year over year comp with more paper sales, more wrap sales versus year over year.

Speaker 5

Okay, great. And so do you think it's sustainable at these levels?

Speaker 1

I think our expectation is that where the margin sit with Zig Zag for our core portfolio, we feel pretty good about.

Speaker 5

Okay, great. And then I want to talk a little bit about the all channel penetration. How much of that is in existing dispensaries all channels versus new ones that are opening up? Where is the growth coming from?

Speaker 3

Yes. I would highlight that the growth from the quarter is coming from a bit of both. I think the primary benefit that we saw in the quarter was really these alternative customers expanding their portfolio, getting more SKUs on shelf, but certainly a portion of that was also driven by entering into new customer stores as well.

Speaker 5

Okay, great. Just want to I know you're not giving that much data on free and I think I heard it tripled from a low base this quarter. But can you just talk about what you may have seen in focus groups with the product? I know your product has a higher dose. It has more packs for a container.

Speaker 5

Can you just talk about what you're hearing from the consumer when you do focus groups on that?

Speaker 1

Yes, I think that as we pointed out earlier that our point of differentiation entering the market was more satisfaction, if you will. I think what we're starting to hear from consumers is that they're pleased with the mouthfeel of the product as well. It's designed a touch differently than the analog products that are on the market. And we continue to get great feedback from our consumers. We've got a really nice window in with our direct to consumer website on freepouch.com.

Speaker 1

Consumers are pretty active in terms of providing us feedback. And as you'll note with online platforms, generally consumers are quick to complain, but not as quick to provide positive feedback and we're seeing a lot of positive feedback relative to the product. I think interestingly the trade situation that we're in right now is very receptive to new products on shelf and we're excited about the ramp in our traditional convenience stores.

Speaker 5

Okay, great. And then just one last question on the vape business. I saw Real Brands is buying Vapor Shark. Can you talk a little bit about where we are with the whole CVS segment and what the magnitude of that possible acquisition is? The divestiture, I should say.

Speaker 1

Yes. I think we're still firmly under the plan that we've previously communicated relative to how we're treating that business. As I'll note, again, we spend no management time within the core business talking about the CDS business. So it freestands and runs on its own. I would anticipate us continuing to matriculate along those lines relative to how we think about the future of that particular business.

Speaker 1

Interestingly to note as well in the quarter, the business actually performed pretty well in the quarter. And to the extent that the business remains sustainable, cash flowing on its own, I think we're comfortable with that asset today. But from a future perspective, I think we remain focused on what we previously communicated.

Speaker 5

Great. Thanks. Great quarter, guys. Congrats.

Speaker 2

Thanks, Mike. Thanks.

Operator

Our next question comes from Scott Fortune from Roth MKM. Please go ahead. Your line is open.

Speaker 6

MKM. Just want a quick follow-up on the CDS side of things. It's kind of stabilized at that $14,000,000 business. Just kind of hearing your comments as kind of sustainable here at these levels, although you guys you've kind of indicated that it might come off, but just kind of get a sense for the CDS business as we look out the rest of the year here from a dollar standpoint?

Speaker 1

Yes. I think on a sequential basis, we feel good about where the business is run through Q1. There's a lot of activity in the world that that business services. And so I think it's hard to underwrite this as this level of sustainability as we move forward. I would note that we do remain committed to that business remaining profitable while it sits underneath the TPB umbrella.

Speaker 1

So our expectation is that at a minimum that business continues to sustain itself, Scott.

Speaker 6

Thanks for that follow-up there. And then just digging in a little more color on the continued penetration into the alternative channel and providing maybe a little more metrics there around that penetration levels where you're at. I know, Summer has mentioned you guys are getting positive shelf space gains here and products strength selling into that channel. But just kind of a little more color on the SKUs or products that are really increasing the market share in that channel, if you can provide that?

Speaker 1

Yes. So as we previously mentioned, we believe based on our internal metrics that that channel is growing. And I think if you look at year over year as well as sequential growth of 60%, I am pretty confident to say that we feel like we are growing share. And I don't think that that is a surprise given the fact that we have broadened the portfolio and created more product offerings to create more consumer appeal for the Zig Zag brand, as well as occupying more shelf space to make Zig Zag more relevant. As it relates to metrics, I would anticipate over time that we will provide more clarity there, but we think we are still way in the early innings of our penetration of that channel.

Speaker 1

So at this point in time, our focus is to continue to find new retail stores, continue to find more distributors that service that space, continue to keep our head down, focus on the right product mix for the end consumer in those stores and we think good things will happen if we continue on that plan.

Speaker 6

Got it. And then last question for me, just kind of focusing on Stoker's a little bit, you're seeing nice continued market growth there as modern oral is weighing on kind of the more of the smokeless tobacco side of things and taking share there. But can you provide a little color on the competitive front? Are you seeing more competition from a pricing landscape with more focus towards the oral side of things? Just kind of a little bit color on continuing that growth going forward in the competitive

Speaker 2

movement here? Yes, we were

Speaker 1

I think we were pleased with our results in the quarter for free as we really started down the street to gain penetration into the retail landscape. We've got a really nice online business where we speak directly to the end consumer. The category is on fire. As you sort of look out, I'm not sure that the category can sustain 73% year over year growth. It grew 16.5% on a sequential basis.

Speaker 1

There is competitive activity within that channel, but you would expect that with the umbrella of growth that that category provides. We still think we are well positioned with the product offerings that we have, catering to the consumer that's looking for more satisfaction. I mentioned mouthfeel before. We think we our product really stacks up well from a mouthfeel perspective. And so we're going to continue moving forward and gaining new stores and engaging more consumers into the brand.

Speaker 6

Thanks. I appreciate the color and detail. That's

Speaker 5

helpful. Thanks, Scott.

Operator

We have no further questions in queue. I would like to turn the call back over to Graeme Purdy for any closing remarks.

Speaker 1

Thanks, operator. Thank you everybody for joining our call. We felt really good about Q1 and we're looking forward to speaking to you here in a few months on our Q2 results.

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