NYSE:SOL Emeren Group Q1 2024 Earnings Report $1.26 +0.09 (+7.20%) Closing price 04/17/2025 03:58 PM EasternExtended Trading$1.24 -0.03 (-2.37%) As of 04/17/2025 04:42 PM Eastern Extended trading is trading that happens on electronic markets outside of regular trading hours. This is a fair market value extended hours price provided by Polygon.io. Learn more. Earnings HistoryForecast Emeren Group EPS ResultsActual EPS-$0.08Consensus EPS N/ABeat/MissN/AOne Year Ago EPSN/AEmeren Group Revenue ResultsActual Revenue$14.79 millionExpected Revenue$18.24 millionBeat/MissMissed by -$3.45 millionYoY Revenue GrowthN/AEmeren Group Announcement DetailsQuarterQ1 2024Date5/23/2024TimeN/AConference Call DateThursday, May 23, 2024Conference Call Time5:00PM ETUpcoming EarningsEmeren Group's Q1 2025 earnings is scheduled for Thursday, May 22, 2025, with a conference call scheduled at 5:00 PM ET. Check back for transcripts, audio, and key financial metrics as they become available.Conference Call ResourcesConference Call AudioConference Call TranscriptSlide DeckPress Release (8-K)Earnings HistoryCompany ProfileSlide DeckFull Screen Slide DeckPowered by Emeren Group Q1 2024 Earnings Call TranscriptProvided by QuartrMay 23, 2024 ShareLink copied to clipboard.There are 8 speakers on the call. Operator00:00:00Hello, ladies and gentlemen. Thank you for standing by for Emeren Group Limited's First Quarter 2024 Earnings Conference Call. Please note that we are recording today's conference call. I will now turn over the call to Suzanne Wilson, Director of Investor Relations at Emeren Group. Please go ahead, Ms. Operator00:00:16Wilson. Speaker 100:00:18Thank you, operator, and hello, everyone. Thank you for joining us today to discuss our Q1 2024 results. We released our shareholder letter after the market closed today and it is available on our website at ir.emarin.com. We also provided a supplemental presentation that's posted on our IR website that we will reference during prepared remarks. On the call with me today are Mr. Speaker 100:00:44Yumen Liu, Chief Executive Officer and Mr. Ka Chen, Chief Financial Officer. Before we continue, please turn to Slide 2. Let me remind you that remarks made during this call may include predictions, estimates or other information that might be considered forward looking. These forward looking statements represent Everang Group's current judgment for the future. Speaker 100:01:07However, they are subject to risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results to differ materially. Those risks are described under Risk Factors and elsewhere in Emmeron Group's filings with the SEC. Please do not place undue reliance on these forward looking statements, which reflect Emeren Group's opinions only as of the date of this call. Emeren Group is not obliged to update you on any revisions to these forward looking statements. In addition, please note that all financial numbers are discussed on this call are unaudited. Speaker 100:01:41Also, please note that unless otherwise stated, all figures mentioned during the conference call are in USD dollars. With that, let me turn the call over to Mr. Yumen Liu. Yumen? Speaker 200:01:53Thank you, Suzanne. Thank you, everyone, for joining our call today. I'll begin by providing an overview of our operational performance in Q1 2024. And Ke will discuss our financial results for Q1 and our outlook. In Q1, we generated $14,800,000 in revenue, marking a 15% increase year over year. Speaker 200:02:19Our gross profit soared to 4,000,000 dollars more than doubling from the previous year, with the gross margin reaching 27.2%. The operating loss was approximately $700,000 significantly reduced from last year. This substantial growth in revenue was primarily driven by our expanding development service agreement, or DSA business, which generated over $5,000,000 in revenue. Our effort to improve operational efficiency across all regions is paying off. We decreased operating expenses by over 50% through strategic cost control measures. Speaker 200:03:04That progress was offset this quarter by a $700,000 write offs of canceled U. S. Early stage projects due to our shifted focus on advanced stage projects and unrealized foreign exchange loss of over 3,200,000 dollars which constituted the buck of our net loss. We'll give you a quick overview of each of our business lines, starting with the quarterly primary catalyst, then we'll circle back with more details later. Our DSA initiatives contribute to a stable and predictable business model, enabling revenue recognition at the early stage of the project moment. Speaker 200:03:50This approach is proving instrumental in managing risks and maximizing cash flow efficiency across the project life cycle. In Q1, ESA revenue accounted for 34% of our total, largely driven by batteries energy storage system or BESS projects in Italy. Looking ahead, we are working to broaden our DSA partnerships on a global scale. Concurrently, our BaaS pipeline continues to grow steadily globally. We recently signed a BSA agreement for our BaaS projects in Southern Italy with NOVAN Infrastructure, formerly known as Glenmont Partners, one of the world's largest fund managers specializing in clean energy, aiming for a total power capacity of 199 megawatts or up to 1.59 gigawatts. Speaker 200:04:52In April, we secured an additional agreement with NOVIN for 155 Megawatts or up to 1.24 Gigawatts of battery storage projects, bringing the partnership total power capacity of 3 54 Megawatts or up to 2.8 gigawatt hours. In Q1, our IPP assets were the primary drivers of growth and profitability, contributing to 38% of our revenue with a gross margin of 44%. IPP continues to be a pivotal component of our business model, providing a dependable source of stable and predictable cash flow. Our IPP revenue is balanced between Europe and China with a modest presence in the U. S. Speaker 200:05:44As of today. In Europe, we have 67 megawatt of IPP assets that generate sustainable revenue. For legacy reasons, we have IPP assets in China located in the 5 coastal provinces with favorable power prices, strong economies and robust regulatory environments. We are now fortifying those assets by adding battery storage to the portfolio. As of the end of Q1, our battery storage portfolio comprised 19 megawatt hours, all integrated into the virtual power platform. Speaker 200:06:25The WayTP platform owned and operated by Huaneng Power International, one of the largest IPP operators in China. The VPP market in China is expanding rapidly. During the quarter, we continued to develop solar and storage projects. As of the end of Q1 2024, we had over 2.6 gigawatts of advanced stage high quality solar projects. We maintain our expectation to monetize approximately 400 megawatts to 500 megawatts of projects in 2024 and beyond. Speaker 200:07:03At the end of Q1, our total Energy Storage project pipeline had increased to over 8 gigawatt or over 32 gigawatt hours. In conclusion, we are optimistic about our revenue growth potential, which is fueled by our strategic initiatives and a robust project pipeline and our ability to achieve gross margin of over 30%. We are also confident we can continue to lower operating expenses. Now let me turn the call over to our CFO, Pe Chen, to discuss our financial performance and guidance. Pe? Speaker 300:07:46Thank you, Yiming, and thanks everyone again for joining us on the call today. Our revenue of $14,800,000 represented an increase of 15% year over year from Q1 2023 and a decrease of 36 percent from Q4 2023. The sequential decline was due to normal seasonality, while the year over year increase in revenue was primarily driven by our growing DSA business, which accounted for 34% of our revenue. Gross profit was $4,000,000 compared to $3,300,000 in Q4 2023 and $1,600,000 in Q1 2023. Gross margin was 27.2 percent compared to 7.6% in Q4 2023 and 12.4% in Q1 2023. Speaker 300:08:43The gross margin improved sequentially, primarily driven by high margin business contributed from DSA Business. Operating expenses were $4,700,000 an improvement from $9,500,000 in Q4 2023 and comparable to $4,600,000 in Q1 2023. Our Q1 operating expenses were impacted by $700,000 write off of canceled early stage project in the U. S. Net loss attributable to Ameren Group Ltd. Speaker 300:09:20Common shareholder was $4,400,000 compared to a net loss of $8,100,000 in Q4 2023 and a net loss of $200,000 in Q1 2023. Diluted net loss attributable to Ameren Group Ltd. Common shareholder per ADS was $0.08 compared to diluted net loss of $0.15 in Q4 2023 and diluted net loss of 0 point 0 $0 in Q1 2023. Cash used in operating activity was 3,300,000 dollars Cash used in investing activity was $2,600,000 and cash used in financing activity was 8,400,000 dollars Negative operating cash flow was primarily due to delayed payment from Paunish projects. Looking at our balance sheet, cash and cash equivalents at the end of Q1 2024 were 15 $5,100,000 compared to $70,200,000 in Q4 2023. Speaker 300:10:28Net asset value or NAV is approximately 6.05 per ADS. Our debt to asset ratio at the end of Q1 2024 was 9.99% compared to 9.44% at the end of Q4 2023. Additionally, during Q1, we purchased approximately US6.3 million dollars worth of ADS. Moving to our outlook, we anticipate that our Q2 revenue will fall within the range of $20,000,000 to 23,000,000 dollars with a gross margin between 40% to 45%. For the full year 2024, we reconfirm reaffirm our expectation for revenue to range from $150,000,000 to $160,000,000 and for gross margin of approximately 30%. Speaker 300:11:24Additionally, we expect our net income for 2024,000,000 to be around $22,000,000 with consideration of foreign exchange impact and expect earnings per ADS to be approximately $0.43 We registered our expectation for our ITP revenue in 2024 to be between 24,000,000 dollars to $26,000,000 with a gross margin of approximately 50%. We expect gross margin contributed by DSA globally to be within the range of 15% to 20%. With that, let's open up the call for any questions. Operator, please go ahead. Operator00:12:11Thank you. Our first question comes from Philip Shen with Rotham Kilometers. You may proceed. Speaker 400:12:35Hi, everyone. Thanks for taking my questions. Wanted to talk about your guidance. So Q1 was a little bit light. Q2 was also your guide was a little bit light versus our expectations. Speaker 400:12:49And so there's a big ramp in Q3 and Q4. I was wondering, because you're going to you plan on monetizing 4 50 megawatts in 2024. What do you think the monetization might be by quarter, just to give us a rough cadence of the monetization? Thanks. Speaker 300:13:12Sure, Phil. Again, like I said, we will confirm our full year revenue guidance and gross margin guidance. Yes, we do expect a ramp up in the second half. And again, some of the projects are under negotiation right now. So we do expect, again, ramp up both in Q3 and Q4. Speaker 300:13:38Right. So what do you expect Speaker 400:13:39to happen to allow for that ramp up? And what have the delay Speaker 300:13:43the reasons for the delay has been? Again, for some of the pool delays, we still expect that, but we're expecting those to happen in the second half. And also, again, we are executing some of the negotiate some of the contract right now and we expect those contracts to be executed in Q3 and Q4. Speaker 400:14:14Sorry, Kehoe. I'm not asking about the timing. I'm asking about the reasons for the delay. So in the U. S, I know there's a lot of reasons, interconnection, transmission queues, long lead time, high voltage equipment, high elevated rates, what else, labor constraints, EPC constraints, those are all resulting in delays in the U. Speaker 400:14:41S. Projects on the margin. What are you seeing in Europe? Are those the same issues in Europe? Or is it I'm imagining it's a different set of issues. Speaker 400:14:50So can you give us some color as to what is causing the delay? Or is it just bilateral negotiation kind of Speaker 300:15:00Yes, let me first of Speaker 200:15:02all, U. Speaker 300:15:02S, what you mentioned is correct. But what we our focus in U. S. Is actually community solar. And again, we are focused on like New York, for example. Speaker 300:15:17That delay actually helped us because some of the latter adders added for NACEDA, so allow us to get a better price. So instead of we sold the project in Q4, we already negotiated the contract, we're getting better price. So the delay will help us in the Q2 starting Q2 and mainly in Q3 and Q4. So U. S, you hit a good point there. Speaker 300:15:42But for Europe, I think we experienced continued experience administration delay, for example, from Spain, but we are expect those happen in Q4. So and again, some of the project we mentioned in Hungary, we're expecting some delays, but we are again expect those happen again in the second half. Speaker 400:16:10Okay. So did you say their administration delays, so their it's based on the local government and the Speaker 300:16:19Some of the permits for Spain be specific and they're launched like more than like up to 12 months delays in some of their regions. So, but we are pushing through all these approvals. Speaker 400:16:37Okay. So there's a chance that these could extend as well, right? I mean, some of these challenges could sustain beyond 2024. I mean, what's the potential that it could take longer than you think? Speaker 300:16:53Again, our team is working very hard to minimize this impact. So like I said, we'll renegotiating this contract, trying to get this done in Q3 and before. Speaker 200:17:05Let me add some color on this one, Phil. Thanks, Yuvie. For example, Spain, we signed the contract SPA back to over 6 months ago. And we expect that to be done within Q1 timeframe or even as early as last Q4. But it will happen as the Sling Government issued a new rule which allows the local administrative admin office to not to have 14 months up to 14 months' time to get project approved based on the priority of the deal. Speaker 200:17:40So the we now consider that's one of the deals we're supposed to close within the first half, but now it goes to second half or most likely will be in Q4, okay? So that is one example. And Hungary, the same thing that the every single deal, we go it goes through the foreign buyer, It won't be under the local government policy. You cannot look into the local government regulation. It's not easy to sell to foreign buyers. Speaker 200:18:13So we have to switch local buyers and now we are in the process of the negotiation. So all those delays will happen, but we are fully confident that those closing will happen in the second half. Speaker 400:18:32Okay. One last question, I'll pass it on. As it relates to the Polish payments, I guess that was an issue for Q1. What exactly was going on there? And then do you expect that challenge to sustain in Q2 or even through the back half of the year? Speaker 400:18:51Thanks. Speaker 300:18:53We are working with the buyers to settle this. So we're expecting the payoffs in June. So and again, we're not expecting further delay anymore. Speaker 400:19:06What is the root cause of the issue? What happened? Speaker 300:19:10Again, there is a PAC delay like the local Polish government, same thing, they have to prove this power plant to be connected. So there's so called PAC certificate Speaker 500:19:24certification. Speaker 200:19:27Basically that the power plant needs to be constructed, receiving so called PAC, Performance Acceptance certificate. And then after that one, we get paid. But there's another big thing is that the project center in the final stage of closing its financing and it's supposed to be done in the next several weeks. So that's why, Kure mentioned, we expect the payment starting in June. Speaker 400:20:00Okay. Okay, great. Best of luck as we get through the year. I'll pass it on. Speaker 200:20:06Thank you, Phil. Speaker 300:20:07Thank you. Operator00:20:09Thank you. One moment for questions. Our next question comes from Pavel Molchanov with Raymond James. You may proceed. Speaker 600:20:18Thanks for taking the question. Zooming out first, are there any complications with module supply on either side of the Atlantic? And do you envision the supply situation worsening with the new tariffs announced in Washington? Speaker 200:20:42Yes and no. For the U. S, as the good part of our story is, we don't plan to do much of the EPC work in the U. S. As we flip the deal before or add the NTP. Speaker 200:20:56But we do have some considerations doing a small deal, which we are doing, which older modules has been secured for a small deal in Maine. So on that part that we are a lot less impacted. And by going to the future, that may limit many other utility scale players on the module supply. But in any case, we see that happen within weeks, but not really impacting us much. But for Europe, we don't see that yet. Speaker 200:21:29At this time, still, it carries through the very competitive pricing without any additional tariff. So that is why we need to double, triple our growth potential in Europe compared to what we are doing in the U. S. Speaker 600:21:47Okay. When I look at your project pipeline, the advanced stage looks relatively balanced by country. The early stage is more than 2 thirds Spain. What explains the scale of these early stage opportunities in the Spanish market? Speaker 200:22:15That's a very interesting question that the Spanish market is one of the most focused market for our company in Europe. And we believe Spanish market still or continues presenting us good potential, okay. We have spent lots of time developing partnerships with local smaller developers. We also develop partnerships going forward with the with our joint venture partners like Apple to see if we can put more resources into the early stage all the way on the development. Okay. Speaker 200:22:56I will see that the Spanish market continues to be strong, especially we learned that the Spanish government is considering adding battery storage into the market play. So with that new initiative, I am looking confident about the growth. Speaker 600:23:20Okay, interesting. Last question, you've continued to repurchase shares. Obviously, the stock is still down quite a bit year to date. How much more cash are you willing to allocate towards buyback? Speaker 300:23:46Pavel, we still have, I think, roughly $15,000,000 left from the Board authorization. So that has been proved. So that's what we could use. Speaker 600:24:0915,15,000,000? Dollars Yes. Okay. Thanks very much. Speaker 200:24:16Welcome, Pablo. Operator00:24:19Thank you. One moment for questions. Our next question comes from Donovan Shafer with Northland Capital Markets. You may proceed. Speaker 500:24:29Hey guys. Thanks for taking the questions. So first, I want to ask for Spain for the storage project pipeline. So looking at the letter to shareholders from last quarter, there was about a gigawatt hour of battery storage that was advanced stage for Spain. And then in this the letter for this quarter, that was it looks like that was essentially eliminated. Speaker 500:25:00It went from about a gigawatt down to 36 megawatts. Is there and it looks like the early stage really jumped, which Pavel was kind of commenting on. I mean, it also went up for solar as well. But so is that a reclassification from advanced stage for Spain to classify it back to bring it back down to early stage? Or what happened to that gigawatt of advanced stage Spanish? Speaker 200:25:30Donovan, thank you. It's a very interesting question and also you hit the right spot. We are becoming more and more conservative in consideration of the global level interconnection bottleneck. Spain is also one of the countries or the markets facing the challenges of the interconnection issues. So the way we pass through in all markets our conservative review so called recategorize our advanced stage or early stage projects. Speaker 200:26:05And that resulted in this moving this 1 gigabyte all the way from advanced stage to early stage to be more conservative. That is the reason that we are continuing developing those projects, but the nothing wrong. But the only thing is that we foresee the interconnection approval delays, which is less optimistic than last quarter. That is why we moved that from the Wednesdays to early stage. But one thing, Donovan, I have to point out, our advanced stage pipeline in Europe is continuing growing. Speaker 200:26:53So we had more than last quarter in general. Speaker 500:26:59Okay. Okay. And then turning to the solar pipeline. So for Germany, as we talk here I'm looking at the early stage. So the advanced stage for Germany, that stayed the same. Speaker 500:27:13So it doesn't look like there's any movement there. But the early stage dropped from 6.90 megawatts to 3.60 megawatts. And you've mentioned there was a write down or an impairment for early stage projects in the U. S. But is there would that kind of thing trigger, I guess, first, what caused the reduction in Germany? Speaker 500:27:39But then secondly, why was that not also an impairment or a write down of some kind or have an impact on the financials? Speaker 300:27:53Let me answer that, Donovan. Actually, we bid 2 projects in Germany, which we fell through. So we didn't win a bid. So that pipeline get removed. There is some small very small impairment in Germany also, but that's very small compared to what we mentioned here in U. Speaker 300:28:15S. It's only like less than $50,000 U. S. Dollar. Speaker 500:28:20Okay, got it. And then just one more for me. You've got some IPP assets in China. You're doing some development work there. And I think you're still maybe Cayman Island based. Speaker 500:28:39You're not technically a U. S. Company. But the question is, is there any risk of sort of like retaliation or anything that could impact you guys? I know someone already asked about module supply into the U. Speaker 500:28:53S, but just in terms of inside China or even in European countries or other places where maybe you work with Chinese companies or source panels from China or anything. Is there any risk of you guys being negatively impacted if the Chinese government were to take some kind of a retaliation against the United States? Speaker 200:29:20No, I don't think so and we don't see that either. Currently, solar market, China represent over 60% of the downstream market in the world, while the supply chain side, not only margins, but also battery storage, China represent over 80% or even a lot more, okay? So the definitely U. S. 201 tariffs will set some limitations or restrictions for China cell and potentially in the future the battery storage components coming to U. Speaker 200:29:55S. But as I answered Pavel's question that we grow not only very fast in Europe, but also we are strategizing not hoping that the 201, 301 U. S. Term will not impact our U. S. Speaker 200:30:15Activities. But going back to China, definitely, we don't see any negative impacts as the China CapEx continue going down, down and down, the battery starts goes to about $70 per kilowatt hour, come apple to apple comparison and also the module goes to below $0.09 So everything looks so good and the market is strong and we feel confident that it's not bringing any negative impact to the company. But Donovan, just to Speaker 300:30:53make a correction, we are PVI company. And again, we don't see the impact because we are running ITP business in China. All the off taker is individual enterprise in China and the United 5 most economy high growth area. I don't see any impact because those businesses are still ongoing. Speaker 500:31:17Okay. All right. Thanks guys. I'll take the rest of my questions offline. Speaker 200:31:21Thank you. Operator00:31:24Thank you. One moment for questions. Our next question comes from Amit Dayal with H. C. Wainwright. Operator00:31:30You may proceed. Speaker 700:31:33Thank you. Good afternoon, everyone. So with respect to the heavier contribution with respect to the outlook coming in the second half, is there any particular projects that make up majority of these expected revenues in the second half? Just trying to see if there's any concentration risk with respect to any projects that you are looking to monetize in the second half? Speaker 300:32:00Yes. Amit, I think we mentioned this is a hungry project and that's the one we are actually under negotiation right now. So but we're confident it will happen in the second half. Speaker 500:32:17Okay. Thank you. Speaker 700:32:20And the higher gross margins in 2Q you're expecting, is it again just coming from the China business and the DSA revenues? Speaker 300:32:34Yes. So for Q2, the higher margin, first of all, this is a higher season in terms of ITP for sure. So that helped with the margin. Secondly, we continue doing our DSA business and the DSA business like we mentioned in the Q1 bring stay at a high margin. And also we have again expect projects some projects sell in Europe. Speaker 300:33:03Those are like NTP sales, so that's making high margin. So overall, that's bringing the higher gross margin guidance. Speaker 700:33:13Okay, understood. Thank you for that. Just last one, you do still have a pretty good balance sheet. I know in the last call you gave guidance that you might end the year with $100,000,000 in cash. Is that still in play? Speaker 300:33:27Of course, we are still confident about that at this point. Speaker 700:33:32Okay. And then with that kind of balance sheet, do you think you might want to pursue more IPP opportunities given sort of the margin strength you're seeing with that segment? Speaker 300:33:42Of course, like we mentioned this in the last few calls, we are like IPP business model to continue to identify high return IPPs, especially out of Europe. So we are again continue looking at those opportunities. Speaker 700:34:01Okay. That's all I have guys. I'll take my other questions offline. Thank you. Operator00:34:08Thank you. And I'm not showing any further questions in queue. I'd like to turn the conference back to Mr. Lu for any closing remarks. Speaker 200:34:26Thank you, operator. Despite challenges such as high interest rate and the U. S. Election cycle, we are strengthening our position in fast growing solar markets. Thanks to increasing demand for clean energy and supportive policies. Speaker 200:34:42Our expertise and strong industry partnerships are pushing us toward becoming a leading global renewable energy company. We are excited about Solar Energy's future and grateful to our employees, customers, partners and shareholders for their continuous support. Thank you again for joining our call today. You may now disconnect. Operator00:35:07Thank you. This concludes the conference. Thank you for your participation. You may now disconnect.Read morePowered by Conference Call Audio Live Call not available Earnings Conference CallEmeren Group Q1 202400:00 / 00:00Speed:1x1.25x1.5x2x Earnings DocumentsSlide DeckPress Release(8-K) Emeren Group Earnings HeadlinesWant to Buy Ethereum While It's Cheap? 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There are 8 speakers on the call. Operator00:00:00Hello, ladies and gentlemen. Thank you for standing by for Emeren Group Limited's First Quarter 2024 Earnings Conference Call. Please note that we are recording today's conference call. I will now turn over the call to Suzanne Wilson, Director of Investor Relations at Emeren Group. Please go ahead, Ms. Operator00:00:16Wilson. Speaker 100:00:18Thank you, operator, and hello, everyone. Thank you for joining us today to discuss our Q1 2024 results. We released our shareholder letter after the market closed today and it is available on our website at ir.emarin.com. We also provided a supplemental presentation that's posted on our IR website that we will reference during prepared remarks. On the call with me today are Mr. Speaker 100:00:44Yumen Liu, Chief Executive Officer and Mr. Ka Chen, Chief Financial Officer. Before we continue, please turn to Slide 2. Let me remind you that remarks made during this call may include predictions, estimates or other information that might be considered forward looking. These forward looking statements represent Everang Group's current judgment for the future. Speaker 100:01:07However, they are subject to risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results to differ materially. Those risks are described under Risk Factors and elsewhere in Emmeron Group's filings with the SEC. Please do not place undue reliance on these forward looking statements, which reflect Emeren Group's opinions only as of the date of this call. Emeren Group is not obliged to update you on any revisions to these forward looking statements. In addition, please note that all financial numbers are discussed on this call are unaudited. Speaker 100:01:41Also, please note that unless otherwise stated, all figures mentioned during the conference call are in USD dollars. With that, let me turn the call over to Mr. Yumen Liu. Yumen? Speaker 200:01:53Thank you, Suzanne. Thank you, everyone, for joining our call today. I'll begin by providing an overview of our operational performance in Q1 2024. And Ke will discuss our financial results for Q1 and our outlook. In Q1, we generated $14,800,000 in revenue, marking a 15% increase year over year. Speaker 200:02:19Our gross profit soared to 4,000,000 dollars more than doubling from the previous year, with the gross margin reaching 27.2%. The operating loss was approximately $700,000 significantly reduced from last year. This substantial growth in revenue was primarily driven by our expanding development service agreement, or DSA business, which generated over $5,000,000 in revenue. Our effort to improve operational efficiency across all regions is paying off. We decreased operating expenses by over 50% through strategic cost control measures. Speaker 200:03:04That progress was offset this quarter by a $700,000 write offs of canceled U. S. Early stage projects due to our shifted focus on advanced stage projects and unrealized foreign exchange loss of over 3,200,000 dollars which constituted the buck of our net loss. We'll give you a quick overview of each of our business lines, starting with the quarterly primary catalyst, then we'll circle back with more details later. Our DSA initiatives contribute to a stable and predictable business model, enabling revenue recognition at the early stage of the project moment. Speaker 200:03:50This approach is proving instrumental in managing risks and maximizing cash flow efficiency across the project life cycle. In Q1, ESA revenue accounted for 34% of our total, largely driven by batteries energy storage system or BESS projects in Italy. Looking ahead, we are working to broaden our DSA partnerships on a global scale. Concurrently, our BaaS pipeline continues to grow steadily globally. We recently signed a BSA agreement for our BaaS projects in Southern Italy with NOVAN Infrastructure, formerly known as Glenmont Partners, one of the world's largest fund managers specializing in clean energy, aiming for a total power capacity of 199 megawatts or up to 1.59 gigawatts. Speaker 200:04:52In April, we secured an additional agreement with NOVIN for 155 Megawatts or up to 1.24 Gigawatts of battery storage projects, bringing the partnership total power capacity of 3 54 Megawatts or up to 2.8 gigawatt hours. In Q1, our IPP assets were the primary drivers of growth and profitability, contributing to 38% of our revenue with a gross margin of 44%. IPP continues to be a pivotal component of our business model, providing a dependable source of stable and predictable cash flow. Our IPP revenue is balanced between Europe and China with a modest presence in the U. S. Speaker 200:05:44As of today. In Europe, we have 67 megawatt of IPP assets that generate sustainable revenue. For legacy reasons, we have IPP assets in China located in the 5 coastal provinces with favorable power prices, strong economies and robust regulatory environments. We are now fortifying those assets by adding battery storage to the portfolio. As of the end of Q1, our battery storage portfolio comprised 19 megawatt hours, all integrated into the virtual power platform. Speaker 200:06:25The WayTP platform owned and operated by Huaneng Power International, one of the largest IPP operators in China. The VPP market in China is expanding rapidly. During the quarter, we continued to develop solar and storage projects. As of the end of Q1 2024, we had over 2.6 gigawatts of advanced stage high quality solar projects. We maintain our expectation to monetize approximately 400 megawatts to 500 megawatts of projects in 2024 and beyond. Speaker 200:07:03At the end of Q1, our total Energy Storage project pipeline had increased to over 8 gigawatt or over 32 gigawatt hours. In conclusion, we are optimistic about our revenue growth potential, which is fueled by our strategic initiatives and a robust project pipeline and our ability to achieve gross margin of over 30%. We are also confident we can continue to lower operating expenses. Now let me turn the call over to our CFO, Pe Chen, to discuss our financial performance and guidance. Pe? Speaker 300:07:46Thank you, Yiming, and thanks everyone again for joining us on the call today. Our revenue of $14,800,000 represented an increase of 15% year over year from Q1 2023 and a decrease of 36 percent from Q4 2023. The sequential decline was due to normal seasonality, while the year over year increase in revenue was primarily driven by our growing DSA business, which accounted for 34% of our revenue. Gross profit was $4,000,000 compared to $3,300,000 in Q4 2023 and $1,600,000 in Q1 2023. Gross margin was 27.2 percent compared to 7.6% in Q4 2023 and 12.4% in Q1 2023. Speaker 300:08:43The gross margin improved sequentially, primarily driven by high margin business contributed from DSA Business. Operating expenses were $4,700,000 an improvement from $9,500,000 in Q4 2023 and comparable to $4,600,000 in Q1 2023. Our Q1 operating expenses were impacted by $700,000 write off of canceled early stage project in the U. S. Net loss attributable to Ameren Group Ltd. Speaker 300:09:20Common shareholder was $4,400,000 compared to a net loss of $8,100,000 in Q4 2023 and a net loss of $200,000 in Q1 2023. Diluted net loss attributable to Ameren Group Ltd. Common shareholder per ADS was $0.08 compared to diluted net loss of $0.15 in Q4 2023 and diluted net loss of 0 point 0 $0 in Q1 2023. Cash used in operating activity was 3,300,000 dollars Cash used in investing activity was $2,600,000 and cash used in financing activity was 8,400,000 dollars Negative operating cash flow was primarily due to delayed payment from Paunish projects. Looking at our balance sheet, cash and cash equivalents at the end of Q1 2024 were 15 $5,100,000 compared to $70,200,000 in Q4 2023. Speaker 300:10:28Net asset value or NAV is approximately 6.05 per ADS. Our debt to asset ratio at the end of Q1 2024 was 9.99% compared to 9.44% at the end of Q4 2023. Additionally, during Q1, we purchased approximately US6.3 million dollars worth of ADS. Moving to our outlook, we anticipate that our Q2 revenue will fall within the range of $20,000,000 to 23,000,000 dollars with a gross margin between 40% to 45%. For the full year 2024, we reconfirm reaffirm our expectation for revenue to range from $150,000,000 to $160,000,000 and for gross margin of approximately 30%. Speaker 300:11:24Additionally, we expect our net income for 2024,000,000 to be around $22,000,000 with consideration of foreign exchange impact and expect earnings per ADS to be approximately $0.43 We registered our expectation for our ITP revenue in 2024 to be between 24,000,000 dollars to $26,000,000 with a gross margin of approximately 50%. We expect gross margin contributed by DSA globally to be within the range of 15% to 20%. With that, let's open up the call for any questions. Operator, please go ahead. Operator00:12:11Thank you. Our first question comes from Philip Shen with Rotham Kilometers. You may proceed. Speaker 400:12:35Hi, everyone. Thanks for taking my questions. Wanted to talk about your guidance. So Q1 was a little bit light. Q2 was also your guide was a little bit light versus our expectations. Speaker 400:12:49And so there's a big ramp in Q3 and Q4. I was wondering, because you're going to you plan on monetizing 4 50 megawatts in 2024. What do you think the monetization might be by quarter, just to give us a rough cadence of the monetization? Thanks. Speaker 300:13:12Sure, Phil. Again, like I said, we will confirm our full year revenue guidance and gross margin guidance. Yes, we do expect a ramp up in the second half. And again, some of the projects are under negotiation right now. So we do expect, again, ramp up both in Q3 and Q4. Speaker 300:13:38Right. So what do you expect Speaker 400:13:39to happen to allow for that ramp up? And what have the delay Speaker 300:13:43the reasons for the delay has been? Again, for some of the pool delays, we still expect that, but we're expecting those to happen in the second half. And also, again, we are executing some of the negotiate some of the contract right now and we expect those contracts to be executed in Q3 and Q4. Speaker 400:14:14Sorry, Kehoe. I'm not asking about the timing. I'm asking about the reasons for the delay. So in the U. S, I know there's a lot of reasons, interconnection, transmission queues, long lead time, high voltage equipment, high elevated rates, what else, labor constraints, EPC constraints, those are all resulting in delays in the U. Speaker 400:14:41S. Projects on the margin. What are you seeing in Europe? Are those the same issues in Europe? Or is it I'm imagining it's a different set of issues. Speaker 400:14:50So can you give us some color as to what is causing the delay? Or is it just bilateral negotiation kind of Speaker 300:15:00Yes, let me first of Speaker 200:15:02all, U. Speaker 300:15:02S, what you mentioned is correct. But what we our focus in U. S. Is actually community solar. And again, we are focused on like New York, for example. Speaker 300:15:17That delay actually helped us because some of the latter adders added for NACEDA, so allow us to get a better price. So instead of we sold the project in Q4, we already negotiated the contract, we're getting better price. So the delay will help us in the Q2 starting Q2 and mainly in Q3 and Q4. So U. S, you hit a good point there. Speaker 300:15:42But for Europe, I think we experienced continued experience administration delay, for example, from Spain, but we are expect those happen in Q4. So and again, some of the project we mentioned in Hungary, we're expecting some delays, but we are again expect those happen again in the second half. Speaker 400:16:10Okay. So did you say their administration delays, so their it's based on the local government and the Speaker 300:16:19Some of the permits for Spain be specific and they're launched like more than like up to 12 months delays in some of their regions. So, but we are pushing through all these approvals. Speaker 400:16:37Okay. So there's a chance that these could extend as well, right? I mean, some of these challenges could sustain beyond 2024. I mean, what's the potential that it could take longer than you think? Speaker 300:16:53Again, our team is working very hard to minimize this impact. So like I said, we'll renegotiating this contract, trying to get this done in Q3 and before. Speaker 200:17:05Let me add some color on this one, Phil. Thanks, Yuvie. For example, Spain, we signed the contract SPA back to over 6 months ago. And we expect that to be done within Q1 timeframe or even as early as last Q4. But it will happen as the Sling Government issued a new rule which allows the local administrative admin office to not to have 14 months up to 14 months' time to get project approved based on the priority of the deal. Speaker 200:17:40So the we now consider that's one of the deals we're supposed to close within the first half, but now it goes to second half or most likely will be in Q4, okay? So that is one example. And Hungary, the same thing that the every single deal, we go it goes through the foreign buyer, It won't be under the local government policy. You cannot look into the local government regulation. It's not easy to sell to foreign buyers. Speaker 200:18:13So we have to switch local buyers and now we are in the process of the negotiation. So all those delays will happen, but we are fully confident that those closing will happen in the second half. Speaker 400:18:32Okay. One last question, I'll pass it on. As it relates to the Polish payments, I guess that was an issue for Q1. What exactly was going on there? And then do you expect that challenge to sustain in Q2 or even through the back half of the year? Speaker 400:18:51Thanks. Speaker 300:18:53We are working with the buyers to settle this. So we're expecting the payoffs in June. So and again, we're not expecting further delay anymore. Speaker 400:19:06What is the root cause of the issue? What happened? Speaker 300:19:10Again, there is a PAC delay like the local Polish government, same thing, they have to prove this power plant to be connected. So there's so called PAC certificate Speaker 500:19:24certification. Speaker 200:19:27Basically that the power plant needs to be constructed, receiving so called PAC, Performance Acceptance certificate. And then after that one, we get paid. But there's another big thing is that the project center in the final stage of closing its financing and it's supposed to be done in the next several weeks. So that's why, Kure mentioned, we expect the payment starting in June. Speaker 400:20:00Okay. Okay, great. Best of luck as we get through the year. I'll pass it on. Speaker 200:20:06Thank you, Phil. Speaker 300:20:07Thank you. Operator00:20:09Thank you. One moment for questions. Our next question comes from Pavel Molchanov with Raymond James. You may proceed. Speaker 600:20:18Thanks for taking the question. Zooming out first, are there any complications with module supply on either side of the Atlantic? And do you envision the supply situation worsening with the new tariffs announced in Washington? Speaker 200:20:42Yes and no. For the U. S, as the good part of our story is, we don't plan to do much of the EPC work in the U. S. As we flip the deal before or add the NTP. Speaker 200:20:56But we do have some considerations doing a small deal, which we are doing, which older modules has been secured for a small deal in Maine. So on that part that we are a lot less impacted. And by going to the future, that may limit many other utility scale players on the module supply. But in any case, we see that happen within weeks, but not really impacting us much. But for Europe, we don't see that yet. Speaker 200:21:29At this time, still, it carries through the very competitive pricing without any additional tariff. So that is why we need to double, triple our growth potential in Europe compared to what we are doing in the U. S. Speaker 600:21:47Okay. When I look at your project pipeline, the advanced stage looks relatively balanced by country. The early stage is more than 2 thirds Spain. What explains the scale of these early stage opportunities in the Spanish market? Speaker 200:22:15That's a very interesting question that the Spanish market is one of the most focused market for our company in Europe. And we believe Spanish market still or continues presenting us good potential, okay. We have spent lots of time developing partnerships with local smaller developers. We also develop partnerships going forward with the with our joint venture partners like Apple to see if we can put more resources into the early stage all the way on the development. Okay. Speaker 200:22:56I will see that the Spanish market continues to be strong, especially we learned that the Spanish government is considering adding battery storage into the market play. So with that new initiative, I am looking confident about the growth. Speaker 600:23:20Okay, interesting. Last question, you've continued to repurchase shares. Obviously, the stock is still down quite a bit year to date. How much more cash are you willing to allocate towards buyback? Speaker 300:23:46Pavel, we still have, I think, roughly $15,000,000 left from the Board authorization. So that has been proved. So that's what we could use. Speaker 600:24:0915,15,000,000? Dollars Yes. Okay. Thanks very much. Speaker 200:24:16Welcome, Pablo. Operator00:24:19Thank you. One moment for questions. Our next question comes from Donovan Shafer with Northland Capital Markets. You may proceed. Speaker 500:24:29Hey guys. Thanks for taking the questions. So first, I want to ask for Spain for the storage project pipeline. So looking at the letter to shareholders from last quarter, there was about a gigawatt hour of battery storage that was advanced stage for Spain. And then in this the letter for this quarter, that was it looks like that was essentially eliminated. Speaker 500:25:00It went from about a gigawatt down to 36 megawatts. Is there and it looks like the early stage really jumped, which Pavel was kind of commenting on. I mean, it also went up for solar as well. But so is that a reclassification from advanced stage for Spain to classify it back to bring it back down to early stage? Or what happened to that gigawatt of advanced stage Spanish? Speaker 200:25:30Donovan, thank you. It's a very interesting question and also you hit the right spot. We are becoming more and more conservative in consideration of the global level interconnection bottleneck. Spain is also one of the countries or the markets facing the challenges of the interconnection issues. So the way we pass through in all markets our conservative review so called recategorize our advanced stage or early stage projects. Speaker 200:26:05And that resulted in this moving this 1 gigabyte all the way from advanced stage to early stage to be more conservative. That is the reason that we are continuing developing those projects, but the nothing wrong. But the only thing is that we foresee the interconnection approval delays, which is less optimistic than last quarter. That is why we moved that from the Wednesdays to early stage. But one thing, Donovan, I have to point out, our advanced stage pipeline in Europe is continuing growing. Speaker 200:26:53So we had more than last quarter in general. Speaker 500:26:59Okay. Okay. And then turning to the solar pipeline. So for Germany, as we talk here I'm looking at the early stage. So the advanced stage for Germany, that stayed the same. Speaker 500:27:13So it doesn't look like there's any movement there. But the early stage dropped from 6.90 megawatts to 3.60 megawatts. And you've mentioned there was a write down or an impairment for early stage projects in the U. S. But is there would that kind of thing trigger, I guess, first, what caused the reduction in Germany? Speaker 500:27:39But then secondly, why was that not also an impairment or a write down of some kind or have an impact on the financials? Speaker 300:27:53Let me answer that, Donovan. Actually, we bid 2 projects in Germany, which we fell through. So we didn't win a bid. So that pipeline get removed. There is some small very small impairment in Germany also, but that's very small compared to what we mentioned here in U. Speaker 300:28:15S. It's only like less than $50,000 U. S. Dollar. Speaker 500:28:20Okay, got it. And then just one more for me. You've got some IPP assets in China. You're doing some development work there. And I think you're still maybe Cayman Island based. Speaker 500:28:39You're not technically a U. S. Company. But the question is, is there any risk of sort of like retaliation or anything that could impact you guys? I know someone already asked about module supply into the U. Speaker 500:28:53S, but just in terms of inside China or even in European countries or other places where maybe you work with Chinese companies or source panels from China or anything. Is there any risk of you guys being negatively impacted if the Chinese government were to take some kind of a retaliation against the United States? Speaker 200:29:20No, I don't think so and we don't see that either. Currently, solar market, China represent over 60% of the downstream market in the world, while the supply chain side, not only margins, but also battery storage, China represent over 80% or even a lot more, okay? So the definitely U. S. 201 tariffs will set some limitations or restrictions for China cell and potentially in the future the battery storage components coming to U. Speaker 200:29:55S. But as I answered Pavel's question that we grow not only very fast in Europe, but also we are strategizing not hoping that the 201, 301 U. S. Term will not impact our U. S. Speaker 200:30:15Activities. But going back to China, definitely, we don't see any negative impacts as the China CapEx continue going down, down and down, the battery starts goes to about $70 per kilowatt hour, come apple to apple comparison and also the module goes to below $0.09 So everything looks so good and the market is strong and we feel confident that it's not bringing any negative impact to the company. But Donovan, just to Speaker 300:30:53make a correction, we are PVI company. And again, we don't see the impact because we are running ITP business in China. All the off taker is individual enterprise in China and the United 5 most economy high growth area. I don't see any impact because those businesses are still ongoing. Speaker 500:31:17Okay. All right. Thanks guys. I'll take the rest of my questions offline. Speaker 200:31:21Thank you. Operator00:31:24Thank you. One moment for questions. Our next question comes from Amit Dayal with H. C. Wainwright. Operator00:31:30You may proceed. Speaker 700:31:33Thank you. Good afternoon, everyone. So with respect to the heavier contribution with respect to the outlook coming in the second half, is there any particular projects that make up majority of these expected revenues in the second half? Just trying to see if there's any concentration risk with respect to any projects that you are looking to monetize in the second half? Speaker 300:32:00Yes. Amit, I think we mentioned this is a hungry project and that's the one we are actually under negotiation right now. So but we're confident it will happen in the second half. Speaker 500:32:17Okay. Thank you. Speaker 700:32:20And the higher gross margins in 2Q you're expecting, is it again just coming from the China business and the DSA revenues? Speaker 300:32:34Yes. So for Q2, the higher margin, first of all, this is a higher season in terms of ITP for sure. So that helped with the margin. Secondly, we continue doing our DSA business and the DSA business like we mentioned in the Q1 bring stay at a high margin. And also we have again expect projects some projects sell in Europe. Speaker 300:33:03Those are like NTP sales, so that's making high margin. So overall, that's bringing the higher gross margin guidance. Speaker 700:33:13Okay, understood. Thank you for that. Just last one, you do still have a pretty good balance sheet. I know in the last call you gave guidance that you might end the year with $100,000,000 in cash. Is that still in play? Speaker 300:33:27Of course, we are still confident about that at this point. Speaker 700:33:32Okay. And then with that kind of balance sheet, do you think you might want to pursue more IPP opportunities given sort of the margin strength you're seeing with that segment? Speaker 300:33:42Of course, like we mentioned this in the last few calls, we are like IPP business model to continue to identify high return IPPs, especially out of Europe. So we are again continue looking at those opportunities. Speaker 700:34:01Okay. That's all I have guys. I'll take my other questions offline. Thank you. Operator00:34:08Thank you. And I'm not showing any further questions in queue. I'd like to turn the conference back to Mr. Lu for any closing remarks. Speaker 200:34:26Thank you, operator. Despite challenges such as high interest rate and the U. S. Election cycle, we are strengthening our position in fast growing solar markets. Thanks to increasing demand for clean energy and supportive policies. Speaker 200:34:42Our expertise and strong industry partnerships are pushing us toward becoming a leading global renewable energy company. We are excited about Solar Energy's future and grateful to our employees, customers, partners and shareholders for their continuous support. Thank you again for joining our call today. You may now disconnect. Operator00:35:07Thank you. This concludes the conference. Thank you for your participation. You may now disconnect.Read morePowered by