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Earnings HistoryForecast Reinsurance Group of America EPS ResultsActual EPS$6.02Consensus EPS $4.55Beat/MissBeat by +$1.47One Year Ago EPS$5.16Reinsurance Group of America Revenue ResultsActual Revenue$6.34 billionExpected Revenue$4.54 billionBeat/MissBeat by +$1.79 billionYoY Revenue GrowthN/AReinsurance Group of America Announcement DetailsQuarterQ1 2024Date5/3/2024TimeAfter Market ClosesConference Call DateFriday, May 3, 2024Conference Call Time10:00AM ETUpcoming EarningsReinsurance Group of America's Q1 2025 earnings is scheduled for Thursday, May 1, 2025, with a conference call scheduled on Friday, May 2, 2025 at 10:00 AM ET. Check back for transcripts, audio, and key financial metrics as they become available.Conference Call ResourcesConference Call AudioConference Call TranscriptSlide DeckPress Release (8-K)Quarterly Report (10-Q)Earnings HistoryCompany ProfileSlide DeckFull Screen Slide DeckPowered by Reinsurance Group of America Q1 2024 Earnings Call TranscriptProvided by QuartrMay 3, 2024 ShareLink copied to clipboard.There are 12 speakers on the call. Operator00:00:00Good day, and welcome to the Reinsurance Group of America Q1 Conference Call. All participants will be in listen only mode. Please note this event is being recorded. I would now like to turn the conference over to Todd Larson, Senior Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer. Please go ahead. Speaker 100:00:38Thank you. Welcome to RGA's Q1 2024 Conference Call. I'm joined on the call this morning with Tony Chang, RGA's President and Chief Executive Officer Leslie Barbee, Chief Investment Officer and Jonathan Porter, Chief Risk Officer. A quick reminder before we get started regarding forward looking information and non GAAP financial measures. Some of our comments or answers to your questions may contain forward looking statements. Speaker 100:01:11Actual results could differ materially from expected results. Please refer to the earnings release we issued yesterday for a list of important factors that could cause actual results to differ materially from expected results. Additionally, during the course of this call, the information we provide may include non GAAP financial measures. Please see our earnings release, earnings presentation and quarterly financial supplement, all of which are posted on our website for a discussion of these terms and reconciliation to GAAP measures. Throughout the call, we will be referencing slides from the earnings presentation, which again is posted on our website. Speaker 100:01:55And now I'll turn the call over to Tony for his comments. Speaker 200:02:00Good morning, everyone, and thank you for joining our call. Last night, we reported adjusted operating earnings of $6.02 per share, which is our highest ever quarterly result. Our adjusted operating return on equity for the past 12 months was 14.8%, exceeding the intermediate targets we previously shared. The record earnings and attractive ROE is not solely from 1 or 2 areas of the company. All 4 geographic regions and both the traditional and GFS businesses met or exceeded our run rates. Speaker 200:02:42In particular, our traditional results stood out, driven by strong underlying experience, notably in the U. S. It was a quarter where many things came together and follows an excellent 2023 for RGA. I am very pleased that we just learned that RGA was rated number 1 for the 13th consecutive year on NMG Consulting's Global All Respondents Business Capability Index. This is based on 2023 feedback from the life and health insurance companies around the world. Speaker 200:03:22In addition to the outstanding earnings and external recognition, our new business activity was very strong. We deployed a record amount of capital into in force transactions of $737,000,000 We have always shared a preference to redeploy our excess capital back into the business for both financial and strategic reasons. Successful transactions lead to favorable economics over the long run and can create repeat opportunities from these clients. In addition to the record quantity of new business, we are delighted with the quality of the new business as we continue to see a high percentage of transactions centered around exclusive arrangements with some of the leading life insurers in the world. These transactions are more innovative in nature and create greater value for RJ and its partners. Speaker 200:04:26When we see excellent earnings, ROE, new business performance across many parts of the enterprise and external recognition of our capabilities, we know our strategy is working. We know our brand and capabilities are strong, and I know our people and culture are second to none. Combining this incredibly strong foundation with macro tailwinds, we are highly confident in delivering long term attractive results and shareholder returns. I have previously outlined 4 areas of notable growth in the company. Let me discuss some of the activities and successes in each of these areas. Speaker 200:05:09Starting with our longevity and PRT business. Longevity not only diversifies our mortality exposure, but also provides favorable opportunities given the increased funding levels of pension funds around the world. In the U. S. PRT market, we announced deals with both of our partners, including our largest PRT transaction to date, and we remain optimistic about our prospects going forward. Speaker 200:05:39In the UK longevity space, where RJ is a market leader, we built on the very successful 2023 with additional transactions this quarter. The pipeline remains active in both the U. S. And the UK and we expect 2024 to be another exciting year. Our second area of notable growth is the asset intensive business in Asia. Speaker 200:06:05During the quarter, we executed a number of important transactions in the region. As announced, we closed an approximately $4,700,000,000 deal in Japan. Our success shows the powerful position RJ has in many of our markets around the world. This is a client that we have shared a strong business relationship with for over a decade. This is an innovative solution being the 1st sizable longevity transaction in Japan, leveraging our strengths in the UK and the U. Speaker 200:06:41S. This transaction demonstrates our integrated approach with our investment and business teams working hand in hand to arrive at the right asset solution tailored for these liabilities. Strong local relationships coupled with worldwide expertise further enhanced by the collaboration amongst our teams is how we win at RGA. In our 3rd area of notable growth, which is our Asia Traditional segment, we continue to see very positive results. Our focus is to package product development with capital and underwriting solution to fuel our clients' growth and success. Speaker 200:07:27In January, we adapted a product from Japan and launched with a major insurer in Korea. Given the success of this product launch, we expect multiple clients to launch with RJ in 2024. In China, we closed an in force transaction and we expect this success to lead to further opportunities in this space in the near future. Finally, in Hong Kong, which is our largest Asian market, we continue to be excited by the increased volume of Mainland Chinese visitors buying life insurance. Throughout the past few years, we have increased our share of key products and are therefore well positioned to benefit. Speaker 200:08:10And finally, in our U. S. Traditional segment, which is our home market and the largest reinsurance market in the world, we continue to strategically build our offerings in the underwriting space to act as our key differentiator. In the quarter, we launched a partnership to extend our digital underwriting offerings. This complements our full service facultative and supplemental underwriting programs. Speaker 200:08:38It is this ability to offer the full breadth of the underwriting spectrum that positions RGA so well in this market. In addition, we see strong momentum and in force activity as clients continue derisking their balance sheets, which we believe is a leading indicator for future new business for RJ. Beyond these four areas of growth, we also continue to have tremendous success in other markets. You will have seen our announcements on the US4.4 billion dollars transaction in Canada as well as our €900,000,000 asset transaction in Belgium. Both of these transactions create long term value for the organization, and it's due to the tremendous work and effort of our local and global teams. Speaker 200:09:36You can see that we have won a lot of meaningful transactions this quarter. But what you have not seen are the transactions we have looked at and have chosen not to pursue. We remain disciplined and execute only when the risk return trade off meets our requirements. This risk management focus is as important as any other part of our culture in delivering long term sustainable performance. As proud as I am about all these accomplishments, I am even more excited about the future. Speaker 200:10:13My job as CEO is to make sure that we continue to execute today, but also make sure we are in an even better position tomorrow. It's a true privilege to lead this organization, and I am clearly confident in our ability to continue to deliver growth and attractive returns to our shareholders for many years to come. I will now turn it over to Todd to discuss the financial results in more detail. Thanks, Tony. Speaker 100:10:44RGA reported pretax adjusted operating income of $516,000,000 for the quarter and adjusted operating earnings per share of $6.02 For the trailing 12 months, adjusted operating return on equity was 14 0.8%. We are very pleased with the strong results as well as momentum in new business activity and in force transactions. Reported premiums were up 58.8 percent for the quarter. This increase includes 1 point $9,000,000 or $1,900,000,000 from a single premium U. S. Speaker 100:11:23PRT transaction in our Financial Solutions business. Our traditional business premium growth was a healthy 8.2% for the quarter on a constant currency basis. We are pleased with the premium growth as there are good results across all regions. The effective tax rate for the quarter was 22.4% on pre tax adjusted operating income, slightly below the expected range, primarily due to tax benefits received in foreign jurisdictions. Before turning to the quarterly segment results, I would like to point out the addition of Slide 7 in our earnings presentation that displays the current period claims experience and the related financial statement impacts. Speaker 100:12:10For the period, underlying biometric experience, which includes experience on our mortality, morbidity and longevity risks, was favorable by $138,000,000 of which $58,000,000 was recognized in correct quarter income. The remaining favorable claims experience will be recognized in income over the life of the underlying business. As we've discussed under LDTI, the financial impacts from experience can vary based on the product, duration of the business and whether experience occurs in capped, uncapped or floored contracts. The U. S. Speaker 100:12:50And Latin America Traditional segment results reflected favorable individual life experience as well as favorable health and group results. The individual life favorable experience was broad based and reflected a lower frequency of large claims. The U. S. Financial Solution results were slightly below expectations due to lower variable investment income. Speaker 100:13:14As you'll notice, starting this quarter, we have combined the U. S. Asset Intensive and U. S. Capital Solutions results into a single segment. Speaker 100:13:24This is consistent with our management of these businesses and the presentation for other regions. Canada traditional results reflected favorable experience in both group and individual life businesses. The Financial Solutions business reflects longevity experience that was in line with expectations. In the Europe, Middle East and Africa segment, the traditional business results reflected favorable timing impacts due to the earnings recognition on an annual premium treaty and positive contributions from new business. EMEA's Financial Solutions business results were in line with expectations. Speaker 100:14:05Turning to our Asia Pacific Traditional business, results reflected favorable experience across the region. The Asia Pacific Financial Solutions business results reflected favorable overall experience. The corporate and other segment reported a pre tax adjusted operating loss of $38,000,000 in line with the expected quarterly average run rate. Moving on to investments on slides 9 through 12, the non spread portfolio yield for the quarter was 4.7% including the impact of lower variable investment income. For non spread business, our new money rate was 6.12%, still well above the portfolio yield, but lower than the prior quarter, primarily reflecting lower average yields available in the market. Speaker 100:14:58Credit impairments were modest and we believe the portfolio is well positioned for the current environment. Related to capital management, as shown on Slides 13 and 14, our capital and liquidity positions remain strong and we ended the quarter with excess capital of approximately $600,000,000 We have an active and balanced approach to capital management over time and as we have communicated in the past, we are comfortable bringing down excess capital given the right opportunities. This was the case in the Q1 as we deployed a record $737,000,000 of capital into in force transactions. I will note that we do expect to retro seed a share of this to Ruby Re, which is expected to increase available capital by approximately $150,000,000 We remain well capitalized with access to multiple forms of capital, including debt capacity, retrocessions to Ruby Re and other forms of alternative capital. We expect to remain active in deploying capital into attractive growth opportunities, while balancing returning excess capital to shareholders through dividends and share repurchases over time. Speaker 100:16:14During the quarter, we continued our long track record of increasing book value per share. As shown on Slide 15, our book value per share excluding AOCI and impacts from B36 embedded derivatives increased to 146.96 dollars which represents a compounded annual growth rate of 10.6% since the beginning of 2021. As we've discussed, the Q1 was a very strong start to the year for RGA. The primary drivers of the results were favorable experience across the globe, strong premium growth, emerging earnings power from active capital deployment in prior periods and the impact of higher interest rates. Overall, we continue to see very good opportunities across our geographies and business lines and are well positioned to execute on our strategic plan. Speaker 100:17:11Our business continues to demonstrate its resilience and underlying earnings power. We are very excited about the future and expect to deliver attractive returns to our shareholders. This concludes our prepared remarks. We would now like to open it up for questions. Operator00:17:31We will now begin the question and answer session. The first question comes from John Barnidge with Piper Sandler. Please go ahead. Speaker 300:18:08Good morning. Thank you for the opportunity. In your comments, you talked about transactions not considered and talked about exclusive transactions. Can you maybe expound on that a little bit? How much is growth is coming from exclusive? Speaker 300:18:22And with others talking about a more competitive environment for certain parts of the institutional market, should exclusive continue to grow as I know you like Creation REIT? Thank you. Speaker 200:18:34Thanks, John. Exclusives have been part of our DNA really the start of the organization. We used to call it entrepreneurial spirit, which is very much flowing through our veins right now. To answer your question, we've set higher goals on the exclusive proportion of business relative to last year and we're definitely there are internal metrics that we're definitely performing extremely well against. And just to give you a bit more flavor, exclusives sound difficult, right? Speaker 200:19:13But that's the power of RGA. That's the power of our platform is our ability to have that global team to have that ability to take risk around the world and assess the right risk. So oftentimes, exclusives will come from either a new type of risk that we add to a product or a new underwriting type of underwriting or a new reinsurance structure. Exclusives can RJ is quite uniquely positioned because we take both the asset and the biometric risk. A lot of reinsurers and competitors focus on the asset side, some focus on the biometric, us being really the only U. Speaker 200:19:51S.-based global range life and health reinsurer allows us to take both the asset and the biometric side. And that's what we call our sweet spot. So, yes, we remain as bullish as ever in terms of the proportion of exclusives that we're getting. It's very much a North Star for us and an aspirational culture for us. And to me, that flywheel effect is starting to permeate throughout your whole organization and we're relatively early stages of seeing the impact of that change. Speaker 300:20:28Thank you for that. My follow-up question, I know there was record deployment of capital into in force. And I think you said $150,000,000 improvement in excess capital as that's ceded. But how should we be thinking about buybacks within the framework of the capital allocation? Is it more of a timing with that ceding? Speaker 300:20:48Can you talk about that a little bit? Thank you. Speaker 100:20:51Hi, John, it's Todd. As you know, we manage capital over time. And as Tony mentioned, we do like to deploy capital back into the business where we like the transaction, the risk return profile. We've maintained a pretty steady dividend over time. And we've always balanced it out with share repurchases when we didn't see an active pipeline. Speaker 100:21:17As we've already discussed, we had a record deployment of capital in the transaction in the Q1. And the pipeline continues to look pretty healthy in the transactions that we really like. Operator00:21:35The next question comes from Bob Huang with Morgan Stanley. Please go ahead. Speaker 400:21:42Hey, good morning. First is on your B36 derivatives and actually, no, first one is really just the difference between net income and operating income just to broadly think about the below the line overall. Understand that a lot of that came from entry risk transfer deals this quarter because of the one time impact. But as you think about future PRT deals, as you think about becoming more optimistic in that area, are there ways to further minimize the impact of the below the line from that Speaker 100:22:21it's that upfront loss, if you want to call it that is, it's really as a result of LDTI adoption and accounting We have to discount the liabilities at a lower rate than what the investment yield is just the way the accounting standard is written. We certainly are looking at ways to see if we can address that somehow. But as of unfortunately right now, we do see that upfront loss in net income, but from an operating income perspective, we'll amortize it in over time with how the earnings emerge. Speaker 400:23:03Okay. Thanks. Second one is really on your biometrics. Obviously, definitely a lot of tailwind and even potentially more tailwind coming up from biometrics. But can you maybe give us a little bit of more details in terms of how you think about the potentials of the biometrics going forward or the potential risks there as well? Speaker 400:23:23Is there a specific geography where you think you can take more advantage of the biometrics? Or are there any regulatory risks that we should be aware of going forward? Speaker 200:23:33Yes. Maybe I'll start and then I'll hand it over to Jonathan to get to more specifics. I mentioned in my comments the many tailwinds we have. And I'll sort of just share with you at a company level just some of them. I mean, one is the interest rates that are higher than historic. Speaker 200:23:53One is some of the changing capital regulations that are creating opportunities around the world. But to answer your question on the biometric, the fact that there is still major under insurance of the population around the world, which gets filled up over time as GDP and incomes grow as well as continued medical technology advances. So I'll hand it over to Jonathan as to elaborating more on the biometric side. Speaker 500:24:22Yes. Thanks, Tony. And I agree with you. I think we are seeing widespread opportunities around the world. So being, specialist in all the biometric risks really, so mortality, morbidity and longevity gives us the flexibility to pursue the best opportunities globally. Speaker 500:24:40And then just to pick up on what Tony mentioned about technological advances and things, I think we remain encouraged by what we're seeing in emerging data relative to weight loss drugs as an example GLP-one type drugs. We think that that could lead to measurable improvements in both mortality and morbidity over time. And it's not just limited to that from a technology perspective. So diagnostic tools like liquid biopsies for cancer, AI genetic editing and advances in protein activity as well and medical science, I think are all things that are just examples of things that we see that could be a tailwind for mortality going forward. And given our risk exposure and our weight to mortality, overall, I think that would that bodes well for the organization. Operator00:25:35The next question comes from Jimmy Bhullar with JPMorgan. Please go ahead. Speaker 600:25:41Hey, good morning. So first just a question for Jonathan. If we look at industry or population deaths, it seems like based on CDC data that they're still fairly elevated, improved from COVID times, but still elevated versus pre COVID. But it seems like your results have actually been pretty good. So what is it that you're seeing in your business that's different than the general population trends? Speaker 500:26:10Yes. Thanks for the question, Jimmy. And you're right. I mean, what we see in the CDC data is that the excess mortality is still elevated. I think the single, mid single digit percentages in 2023 when you look at the actual experience in the population. Speaker 500:26:23I mean, as the excess mortality starts to come down, which is the trend definitely over the last couple of years, it starts to get more difficult to map that directly to between population and an insured book of business as the differences are the absolute level of excess mortality is lower. What we saw this quarter, in particular in the U. S. Was favorable large claims experience, which as you know from prior quarters, can be volatile period over period. So we were on the we benefited from favorable large claims experience this quarter. Speaker 500:26:55I'd say our expectations have not changed from when we reviewed our assumptions in Q3 of last year. Still expect some level of excess mortality, for the intermediate term, which is reflected in our reserve assumptions, but we do expect that to decline over the next several years. Speaker 600:27:13And then maybe for Tony, if there are improvements in doesn't seem like companies doesn't seem like companies are pricing the longevity business and pension business based on expected improvements in mortality. And obviously, they're not it's not a given that, that would happen as well. But how are you pricing your longevity business? Are you baking in the cushion for potential better life expectancy? Because if you were, then you'd have a hard time being competitive in the market. Speaker 600:27:53Or are you okay pricing based on the actual data given that you've got more exposure to mortality anyway? Speaker 200:28:01Sure. Thank you, Jimmy, very much for the question. Look, first key point is the way we set our mortality and longevity assumptions are very consistent, right? I mean, at the end of the day, there are two sides of the same coin. They're both forms of mortality. Speaker 200:28:20Whatever we do on the mortality side, we do on the longevity side. I would say we're spending a lot of energy, as Jonathan shared, analyzing the data, but also doing a lot of medical R and D to get a stronger sense of appreciation of what could happen due to the medical advances. So and obviously, any medical advances that we believe will occur and price for once again, as you shared, would be net very good for RGA given we are still way more materially longer on mortality than longevity. Speaker 100:28:59One point maybe I would add on, Jimmy, is that our mortality average age our mortality block average age is lower or younger than the longevity business and the longevity block is average age is higher or older. So there's less room for the improvement to take effect, if you will. Speaker 200:29:21Yes. Maybe further to add to that. To Todd's point, there's also some socioeconomic differences. So the mortality block tends to be higher socioeconomic. Obviously, the first to be able to afford these new medical advances in the drugs. Operator00:29:45The next question comes from Joel Juerits with Dowling Partners. Please go ahead. Speaker 700:29:52Hey, good morning. So last quarter, you guys provided updated financial targets and earnings outlook and you since followed it up with this record quarter of in force transactions. I guess how much deployment did you factor into those targets? And was most of this activity known and factored into those earnings and growth outlooks? Are we looking at some solid upside to what you provided? Speaker 100:30:14Yes, this is Todd. Yes, we did factor in deployment in the transactions into the intermediate financial targets that we provided back last quarter. I would say we're off to a little bit faster start than we had anticipated. A lot of transactions that we had been working on came our way this quarter. So there is definitely some built into those projections, but we're running a little bit intermediate targets, but we're I said we got a fast start Speaker 300:30:47onto that. Speaker 700:30:47Okay. And then, Thanh, can you just talk about how to think about the earnings emergence from all these transactions? How long does it typically take for you guys to redeploy the assets and whatnot? Speaker 100:31:01Yes. So overall, in the aggregate, we're pricing to our targeted returns. So we'll see that those margins come in over time at our expected levels. But probably depending on the transaction, it can take a year, maybe 2 years to ramp up to get to that the level of overall return. As you mentioned, we do some asset repositioning early on and there can be some other financial reporting impacts as well. Speaker 100:31:33But overall, we should be reaching a good level within a couple of years. Operator00:31:41The next question comes from Wes Carmichael with Autonomous Research. Please go ahead. Speaker 300:31:48Hey, good morning. Thanks for the question. You talked about some of the capital relief from the Ruby Re retro session that's planned. Should we continue to think about Ruby Re being effectively kind of a quota share for 50% of U. S. Speaker 300:31:59Asset intensive? I know now that's I think within U. S. Financial Solutions, but is there any change to the thinking there? Speaker 100:32:05No. Yes. So for qualifying business, which is the U. S. Asset intensive business, yes, I would think about it as a quota share of 50% or even up to 70% of new transactions that come in that are U. Speaker 100:32:20S. Asset intensive, up to the capacity that Ruby rehabs, which will probably be an equity capital perspective $450,000,000 to $500,000,000 or so. Speaker 300:32:33It. Thanks, Todd. And then thanks for the new Slide 7. I just had a question to clarify that. The favorable claim experience that wasn't recognized in the period, is that recognized on a straight line basis basically evenly every quarter or is it more closer to the period which declines over time? Speaker 100:32:52It will come in over time over the underlying duration of the business, if you will, and it'll all depend on there's that net premium ratio and how that impacts the release of earnings of people over time. Speaker 500:33:10Yes. And just maybe Todd to add on to when we look at the weighted average duration of our business, our traditional business, and our GFS business, it's probably in that 10 to 15 year range on average, just to give you a sense of the period over which those earnings would emerge. Operator00:33:31The next question comes from Suneet Kamath with Jefferies. Please go ahead. Speaker 800:33:37Thanks. Tony, I wanted to circle back to something you talked about in terms of the deals that you were looking at, but that you didn't end up doing. Yes, I don't expect you to give specifics, but just some color around what caused you guys to kind of walk away? Was it the liability profile or the pricing? And to the extent you can comment, were those deals eventually executed in the market? Speaker 800:33:57Thanks for the question. We Speaker 200:34:06we once again, it's so embedded in our culture to have that discipline of making sure the risk return trade off is right. So it may at times it could be a liability is not perfectly fine. It's just a question of we pride ourselves on the ability to be able to price most liability types. And then the question is, is it the right thing to do for our shareholders? But I want to add on top, oftentimes these transactions transact or oftentimes they don't or oftentimes clients have to change the way they do things. Speaker 200:34:45So if I point you towards just a few years ago, we had a spate of large longevity wins in the Netherlands, which sort of seemed like an overnight success, but that was an area where we had been pricing transactions probably for a number of years until once again the risk return trade off played out. And there's other numerous examples of that. Speaker 800:35:08Got it. And then just relatedly, long term care is an area that I think historically you've been reluctant to pursue. Just wanted to get your current thoughts. Obviously, we saw a transaction late last year, rates are higher. Does that change your appetite for that line of business? Speaker 200:35:25Yes, I think definitely, firstly, our current book of business is the newer generations of long term care. We believe it's performed very, very well and continues to do so. However, once again, we pride ourselves on being the liability experts of the world in the life and health space, which long term care is one type of risk, And we will look at that type of risk, and we will be selective, and we will apply discipline. And I wouldn't say it's the top of our priority list. There's just so many opportunities for us to apply ourselves, our talent, our capital given the numerous headwinds that I numerous tailwinds that I communicated earlier. Operator00:36:16The next question comes from Ryan Krueger with KBW. Please go ahead. Speaker 900:36:22Hey, good morning. So recognizing that you just raised your ROE target to 12% to 14%, but I think if I take the results of the last few quarters and adjust for the actual to expected biometric results that you've provided, it looks like you're running closer to a 14% to 15% ROE. So just is I guess just wanted to get some more perspective on do you think you're kind of running more towards the higher end of that 12% to 14% or above at this Speaker 100:36:56point? Hey, Ryan, it's Todd. I'll start off with that. Yes, we have been performing quite well. Things the worked out quality and the underlying biometrics experience has been performing well. Speaker 100:37:09We've had some other positive impacts as well. We just recently put out a 12% to 14%. Clearly, we're not ready to adjust that at this point, but we're glad to see that we are hitting that high end of the range. Speaker 900:37:30Got it. And then, Tony, could you talk more about the Japan opportunity? It seems like things are really starting to open up there both for you and some of your competitors in terms of in force transactions in Japan. Speaker 200:37:46Yes. Thanks for the question. We have Japan as a market both on the traditional and the GFS side. Probably your question centers more around the GFS side. We believe we were one of the pioneers in that market on the first transaction just on top of my head probably 7, 8 years ago, and incredibly well positioned given our local brand there, right? Speaker 200:38:17And the transaction we won was competed, and we were very delighted to win that transaction given the relationship we have with them, given the size of the transaction. I raised the comment about being one of the pioneers is and in many of the Asian markets, this is a case where if you look back 10 years, maybe even 20 years ago, we were the only one saying these things. And when competition comes in, it often validates or verifies to the whole market that these things are effective and efficient ways of managing capital or asset risk and so on. So there is increased competition there. We feel very much, obviously, given Q1 that we're doing very well. Speaker 200:39:03We can appreciate some of the reasons given our gosh, we started there in 1996, so nearly 30 year experience there. There were other transactions, which I won't go into detail, in Japan that we executed in Q1 that were strategic in nature also. So we're very positive about that area of our business. Operator00:39:28The next question comes from Nick Anido with Wells Fargo. Please go Speaker 1000:39:33ahead. Hey, thanks. Good morning. I'm on for Elyse. Both my questions center more towards Ruby Re. Speaker 1000:39:41The first being, I guess, should we think of Ruby Re and any subsequent sidecars raised as replacing any growth capital that RGA would have to raise on its own? Speaker 100:39:57That's right. I think if you sort of stop we look at overall opportunities in the market from a business perspective and something like the alternative capital or committed capital provided by a vehicle like Ruby Re helps us with the overall capital need for the growth of that business as well as hopefully leverage up the capital that we apply to the transactions, leverage those returns up over time and also give us confidence that we've got the capital to go after some of these larger transactions. Speaker 1000:40:33Got it. That's helpful. And then I guess as a follow-up, I think you guys had said that the PRT in the quarter didn't go into Ruby Re. What was the reason for that? And should we be thinking about any sort of like impacts or reasons why there should be asset intensive business that doesn't go into Ruby Re in the future? Speaker 100:41:02I would just bring it back to when we set up Ruby Re, we defined what subject business would go into Ruby Re automatically subject certain conditions and the subject business is the U. S. Asset intensive business at this point. Operator00:41:23The next question comes from Tom Gallagher with Evercore. Please go ahead. Speaker 1100:41:30Good morning. A few follow ups on that similar theme. Just want to understand what of the deals that were publicly announced, there were several in Q1. How many of those showed up this quarter in that seven $37,000,000 of in force transactions have deployed capital into that. Are there a bunch more that of those that didn't close that will show up in the deployed capital in 2Q? Speaker 1100:42:01Can you just give a sense for what the expectation be based on what you've announced, but maybe not yet closed heading into 2Q? Thanks. Speaker 100:42:12Yes. Hi, Tom. Yes. So all the announced transactions except for the Canadian transaction were in the 737,000,000 dollars capital deployment number in the Q1. Speaker 200:42:30And Tom, to add to your second comment on deals we haven't closed, all I could say there is the pipeline is incredibly active across the globe in all our businesses. So but we don't sort of speculate on which deals we'll be able to close. But as Todd mentioned, we spent so much energy, obviously, on the front end of our business, but absolutely on the capital management side and finding alternate sources of capital. So we're very happy with our capital levels and believe we have plenty of capital to fund future growth. Speaker 1100:43:09Got you. And then Tony, suffice to say the $933,000,000 you did last year, you probably end up exceeding that I'm guessing just based on the Canadian deal plus the if you book a few more that are in the pipeline, is that would you say that's a fair assessment? Speaker 200:43:27I think, yes, that would be the expectation. Speaker 1100:43:31Thanks. And just from a just want to understand, I have your thought process behind funding all of that or potentially funding the growth. You have Ruby Ray obviously and it sounds like not much has gone into that or there's a lot of capacity there potentially to as a source of capital. But then is there anything else we should be thinking about? Are you looking to do other fundraising, other sidecar capital on international or otherwise? Speaker 100:44:09Yes. So for Ruby Re, so far as we announced, I guess it was in December last year, we put what we called some seed blocks in there, some existing blocks in the retro into Ruby Re late last year. Just due to the timing process and so on, nothing so far this year, but we will be retroing some more business in there as the year goes on. And then as far as other fundraising, as I mentioned in my comments, we do have some debt capacity at the Holdco and at some of the operating company levels. Have you seen in the past, we've issued some other alternative forms of capital. Speaker 100:44:50We did some surplus notes back in 2021 2023. We've done some embedded value securitizations over the years, the most recent one in 2003, which is pretty nice. It helps us generate bring forward some capital and also demonstrates the value of the business that we have on our books. And we can as we've done in the past, we can also look at some strategic retro sessions where it makes sense as well. Speaker 200:45:19Yes. And Tom, I mean, yes, just to add to all of that, I mean, that's why it takes the energy and the passion to find the right source of capital that meets the underlying risk return trade off of the deal and just maximize capital efficiency for our shareholders. So but we're very active in it. And as Todd said, there's multiple opportunities and sources that over the years we've built up those options, and we will obviously not hesitate to deploy those options as needed. Operator00:45:53The next question comes from Mike Ward with Citi. Please go ahead. Speaker 100:45:58Thanks, guys. Good morning. Just hoping you could discuss the sort of the competitive landscape for whether it's new business in PRT or Financial Solutions. Just kind of thinking how are you competing when you're sitting down with potential partners and there's competitors out there that might have things like bigger sort of Bermuda subsidiaries or more aggressive investment strategies. Clearly, you're winning new business and doing very well. Speaker 100:46:35Just curious if you can help us think through this. Speaker 200:46:38Yes. Thanks for the question. And once again, it just comes down to the breadth of our platform, the geography, the number of different types of risk types we can we have available to take the client base, the probably hundreds of clients we have over the globe where we have very close and intimate partnerships. So we're really the way we compete, and as you mentioned, obviously, we're doing okay given the first quarter and last year, but we compete by not competing, right? We're really, as I mentioned earlier, and I won't go into all that detail again, we're really seeking those exclusivity. Speaker 200:47:16And we find when you do seek those exclusivities, you either, 1, get the exclusivities. At times, maybe they have to call another reinsurer into be part of it, but you're going to be in good shape. So it's really leveraging off all those capabilities. You may wonder, gee, why the huge deal flow over the last year and a bit? I would say there's probably multiple reasons, but really RGA's edge has always been around customer focus, around serving our clients and innovating. Speaker 200:47:52And those things are kind of harder to do over Zoom. But once obviously the environment changed and we were out there being able to leverage off one of our core strengths, you're starting to see some of the success that comes from that. Speaker 100:48:08Got it. Thanks, Tony. That was all I had. Operator00:48:12The next question comes from Wes Carmichael with Autonomous Research. Please go ahead. Speaker 300:48:18Hey, thanks for taking the follow-up. Just one quick one on Ruby Re. Speaker 400:48:22Is there a good rule of thumb Speaker 300:48:23to think about the leverage there? I think, Todd, you said that there's $450,000,000 or $500,000,000 of equity capacity there. Is there can you lever that 15 times? I'm just trying to get a sense for the size of liabilities that might fit there. Is it $6,000,000,000 $7,500,000,000 or is it something north of that? Speaker 100:48:40Well, to end on the underlying business and so on, not clear if you're asking from a liability perspective or Speaker 500:48:50I guess where I'm going is Speaker 300:48:52I just wanted to figure out if you did a bunch of big PRT deals, how much do you think you could possibly use that sidecar for? Speaker 100:49:07Yes. I think for the current capacity, I'm trying to think in my head, probably 15 times is not far off. Speaker 300:49:19Okay. That's helpful. Operator00:49:24The next question comes from Tom Gallagher with Evercore. Please go ahead. Speaker 1100:49:31Thanks. Just a follow-up on the biometric slide. So the extra profits of 80,000,000 dollars for 1Q 2024 that are getting deferred. When I think about GAAP versus your statutory and cash flow, Would you say most of that would be coming through in statutory, meaning not getting deferred the same the way it is under the new GAAP? And if so, are we potentially going to see a period where your GAAP earnings or your free cash flow, I should say, end up being like a very high percentage of your GAAP earnings as a result of that? Speaker 100:50:15Yes. So, yes, depending on with the I guess the experience is favorable or unfavorable and what type of cohorts it falls under for LDTI. Some of it for GAAP basis will be deferred, where for regulatory purposes or statutory, most of that would come through like I did on old GAAP would come through currently. Speaker 500:50:42Yes. And just to add on Todd too, I mean, maybe it's obvious, but clearly there's also other material differences between GAAP and statutory accounting. So there would be other drivers other than just the claims experience. Speaker 1100:50:56Yes. That was another thing I was wondering because you strengthened reserves under LDTI, you did not strengthen reserves under statutory. So there's a different basis to measure offset. Is that a fair way to think about it? Speaker 500:51:18Yes. I mean, I guess, when you think about the reserves that would be released on death or claim, you're right, there could be a difference there, both plus or minus, right? I mean, it depends on the as Todd mentioned, there's the basis is quite different. So yes, I don't have a rule of thumb or a number I can point you to, but there would definitely be differences between the 2. Speaker 1100:51:39Okay. Thanks. Operator00:51:43This concludes our question and answer session. I would like to turn the conference back over to Tony Chang for any closing remarks. Speaker 200:51:52Thank you for your questions and your continued interest in RGA. This was a very strong quarter to start the year and a record in many ways, further demonstrating the substantial earning power in our business. We remain very well positioned to capitalize on the many growth opportunities ahead, and we are confident in our ability to continue to deliver attractive returns to our shareholders. I look forward to seeing you all once again in June during our Investor Day in New York City. This concludes our Q1 call. Speaker 200:52:25Thank you very much. Operator00:52:28The conference has now concluded. Thank you for attending today's presentation. 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There are 12 speakers on the call. Operator00:00:00Good day, and welcome to the Reinsurance Group of America Q1 Conference Call. All participants will be in listen only mode. Please note this event is being recorded. I would now like to turn the conference over to Todd Larson, Senior Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer. Please go ahead. Speaker 100:00:38Thank you. Welcome to RGA's Q1 2024 Conference Call. I'm joined on the call this morning with Tony Chang, RGA's President and Chief Executive Officer Leslie Barbee, Chief Investment Officer and Jonathan Porter, Chief Risk Officer. A quick reminder before we get started regarding forward looking information and non GAAP financial measures. Some of our comments or answers to your questions may contain forward looking statements. Speaker 100:01:11Actual results could differ materially from expected results. Please refer to the earnings release we issued yesterday for a list of important factors that could cause actual results to differ materially from expected results. Additionally, during the course of this call, the information we provide may include non GAAP financial measures. Please see our earnings release, earnings presentation and quarterly financial supplement, all of which are posted on our website for a discussion of these terms and reconciliation to GAAP measures. Throughout the call, we will be referencing slides from the earnings presentation, which again is posted on our website. Speaker 100:01:55And now I'll turn the call over to Tony for his comments. Speaker 200:02:00Good morning, everyone, and thank you for joining our call. Last night, we reported adjusted operating earnings of $6.02 per share, which is our highest ever quarterly result. Our adjusted operating return on equity for the past 12 months was 14.8%, exceeding the intermediate targets we previously shared. The record earnings and attractive ROE is not solely from 1 or 2 areas of the company. All 4 geographic regions and both the traditional and GFS businesses met or exceeded our run rates. Speaker 200:02:42In particular, our traditional results stood out, driven by strong underlying experience, notably in the U. S. It was a quarter where many things came together and follows an excellent 2023 for RGA. I am very pleased that we just learned that RGA was rated number 1 for the 13th consecutive year on NMG Consulting's Global All Respondents Business Capability Index. This is based on 2023 feedback from the life and health insurance companies around the world. Speaker 200:03:22In addition to the outstanding earnings and external recognition, our new business activity was very strong. We deployed a record amount of capital into in force transactions of $737,000,000 We have always shared a preference to redeploy our excess capital back into the business for both financial and strategic reasons. Successful transactions lead to favorable economics over the long run and can create repeat opportunities from these clients. In addition to the record quantity of new business, we are delighted with the quality of the new business as we continue to see a high percentage of transactions centered around exclusive arrangements with some of the leading life insurers in the world. These transactions are more innovative in nature and create greater value for RJ and its partners. Speaker 200:04:26When we see excellent earnings, ROE, new business performance across many parts of the enterprise and external recognition of our capabilities, we know our strategy is working. We know our brand and capabilities are strong, and I know our people and culture are second to none. Combining this incredibly strong foundation with macro tailwinds, we are highly confident in delivering long term attractive results and shareholder returns. I have previously outlined 4 areas of notable growth in the company. Let me discuss some of the activities and successes in each of these areas. Speaker 200:05:09Starting with our longevity and PRT business. Longevity not only diversifies our mortality exposure, but also provides favorable opportunities given the increased funding levels of pension funds around the world. In the U. S. PRT market, we announced deals with both of our partners, including our largest PRT transaction to date, and we remain optimistic about our prospects going forward. Speaker 200:05:39In the UK longevity space, where RJ is a market leader, we built on the very successful 2023 with additional transactions this quarter. The pipeline remains active in both the U. S. And the UK and we expect 2024 to be another exciting year. Our second area of notable growth is the asset intensive business in Asia. Speaker 200:06:05During the quarter, we executed a number of important transactions in the region. As announced, we closed an approximately $4,700,000,000 deal in Japan. Our success shows the powerful position RJ has in many of our markets around the world. This is a client that we have shared a strong business relationship with for over a decade. This is an innovative solution being the 1st sizable longevity transaction in Japan, leveraging our strengths in the UK and the U. Speaker 200:06:41S. This transaction demonstrates our integrated approach with our investment and business teams working hand in hand to arrive at the right asset solution tailored for these liabilities. Strong local relationships coupled with worldwide expertise further enhanced by the collaboration amongst our teams is how we win at RGA. In our 3rd area of notable growth, which is our Asia Traditional segment, we continue to see very positive results. Our focus is to package product development with capital and underwriting solution to fuel our clients' growth and success. Speaker 200:07:27In January, we adapted a product from Japan and launched with a major insurer in Korea. Given the success of this product launch, we expect multiple clients to launch with RJ in 2024. In China, we closed an in force transaction and we expect this success to lead to further opportunities in this space in the near future. Finally, in Hong Kong, which is our largest Asian market, we continue to be excited by the increased volume of Mainland Chinese visitors buying life insurance. Throughout the past few years, we have increased our share of key products and are therefore well positioned to benefit. Speaker 200:08:10And finally, in our U. S. Traditional segment, which is our home market and the largest reinsurance market in the world, we continue to strategically build our offerings in the underwriting space to act as our key differentiator. In the quarter, we launched a partnership to extend our digital underwriting offerings. This complements our full service facultative and supplemental underwriting programs. Speaker 200:08:38It is this ability to offer the full breadth of the underwriting spectrum that positions RGA so well in this market. In addition, we see strong momentum and in force activity as clients continue derisking their balance sheets, which we believe is a leading indicator for future new business for RJ. Beyond these four areas of growth, we also continue to have tremendous success in other markets. You will have seen our announcements on the US4.4 billion dollars transaction in Canada as well as our €900,000,000 asset transaction in Belgium. Both of these transactions create long term value for the organization, and it's due to the tremendous work and effort of our local and global teams. Speaker 200:09:36You can see that we have won a lot of meaningful transactions this quarter. But what you have not seen are the transactions we have looked at and have chosen not to pursue. We remain disciplined and execute only when the risk return trade off meets our requirements. This risk management focus is as important as any other part of our culture in delivering long term sustainable performance. As proud as I am about all these accomplishments, I am even more excited about the future. Speaker 200:10:13My job as CEO is to make sure that we continue to execute today, but also make sure we are in an even better position tomorrow. It's a true privilege to lead this organization, and I am clearly confident in our ability to continue to deliver growth and attractive returns to our shareholders for many years to come. I will now turn it over to Todd to discuss the financial results in more detail. Thanks, Tony. Speaker 100:10:44RGA reported pretax adjusted operating income of $516,000,000 for the quarter and adjusted operating earnings per share of $6.02 For the trailing 12 months, adjusted operating return on equity was 14 0.8%. We are very pleased with the strong results as well as momentum in new business activity and in force transactions. Reported premiums were up 58.8 percent for the quarter. This increase includes 1 point $9,000,000 or $1,900,000,000 from a single premium U. S. Speaker 100:11:23PRT transaction in our Financial Solutions business. Our traditional business premium growth was a healthy 8.2% for the quarter on a constant currency basis. We are pleased with the premium growth as there are good results across all regions. The effective tax rate for the quarter was 22.4% on pre tax adjusted operating income, slightly below the expected range, primarily due to tax benefits received in foreign jurisdictions. Before turning to the quarterly segment results, I would like to point out the addition of Slide 7 in our earnings presentation that displays the current period claims experience and the related financial statement impacts. Speaker 100:12:10For the period, underlying biometric experience, which includes experience on our mortality, morbidity and longevity risks, was favorable by $138,000,000 of which $58,000,000 was recognized in correct quarter income. The remaining favorable claims experience will be recognized in income over the life of the underlying business. As we've discussed under LDTI, the financial impacts from experience can vary based on the product, duration of the business and whether experience occurs in capped, uncapped or floored contracts. The U. S. Speaker 100:12:50And Latin America Traditional segment results reflected favorable individual life experience as well as favorable health and group results. The individual life favorable experience was broad based and reflected a lower frequency of large claims. The U. S. Financial Solution results were slightly below expectations due to lower variable investment income. Speaker 100:13:14As you'll notice, starting this quarter, we have combined the U. S. Asset Intensive and U. S. Capital Solutions results into a single segment. Speaker 100:13:24This is consistent with our management of these businesses and the presentation for other regions. Canada traditional results reflected favorable experience in both group and individual life businesses. The Financial Solutions business reflects longevity experience that was in line with expectations. In the Europe, Middle East and Africa segment, the traditional business results reflected favorable timing impacts due to the earnings recognition on an annual premium treaty and positive contributions from new business. EMEA's Financial Solutions business results were in line with expectations. Speaker 100:14:05Turning to our Asia Pacific Traditional business, results reflected favorable experience across the region. The Asia Pacific Financial Solutions business results reflected favorable overall experience. The corporate and other segment reported a pre tax adjusted operating loss of $38,000,000 in line with the expected quarterly average run rate. Moving on to investments on slides 9 through 12, the non spread portfolio yield for the quarter was 4.7% including the impact of lower variable investment income. For non spread business, our new money rate was 6.12%, still well above the portfolio yield, but lower than the prior quarter, primarily reflecting lower average yields available in the market. Speaker 100:14:58Credit impairments were modest and we believe the portfolio is well positioned for the current environment. Related to capital management, as shown on Slides 13 and 14, our capital and liquidity positions remain strong and we ended the quarter with excess capital of approximately $600,000,000 We have an active and balanced approach to capital management over time and as we have communicated in the past, we are comfortable bringing down excess capital given the right opportunities. This was the case in the Q1 as we deployed a record $737,000,000 of capital into in force transactions. I will note that we do expect to retro seed a share of this to Ruby Re, which is expected to increase available capital by approximately $150,000,000 We remain well capitalized with access to multiple forms of capital, including debt capacity, retrocessions to Ruby Re and other forms of alternative capital. We expect to remain active in deploying capital into attractive growth opportunities, while balancing returning excess capital to shareholders through dividends and share repurchases over time. Speaker 100:16:14During the quarter, we continued our long track record of increasing book value per share. As shown on Slide 15, our book value per share excluding AOCI and impacts from B36 embedded derivatives increased to 146.96 dollars which represents a compounded annual growth rate of 10.6% since the beginning of 2021. As we've discussed, the Q1 was a very strong start to the year for RGA. The primary drivers of the results were favorable experience across the globe, strong premium growth, emerging earnings power from active capital deployment in prior periods and the impact of higher interest rates. Overall, we continue to see very good opportunities across our geographies and business lines and are well positioned to execute on our strategic plan. Speaker 100:17:11Our business continues to demonstrate its resilience and underlying earnings power. We are very excited about the future and expect to deliver attractive returns to our shareholders. This concludes our prepared remarks. We would now like to open it up for questions. Operator00:17:31We will now begin the question and answer session. The first question comes from John Barnidge with Piper Sandler. Please go ahead. Speaker 300:18:08Good morning. Thank you for the opportunity. In your comments, you talked about transactions not considered and talked about exclusive transactions. Can you maybe expound on that a little bit? How much is growth is coming from exclusive? Speaker 300:18:22And with others talking about a more competitive environment for certain parts of the institutional market, should exclusive continue to grow as I know you like Creation REIT? Thank you. Speaker 200:18:34Thanks, John. Exclusives have been part of our DNA really the start of the organization. We used to call it entrepreneurial spirit, which is very much flowing through our veins right now. To answer your question, we've set higher goals on the exclusive proportion of business relative to last year and we're definitely there are internal metrics that we're definitely performing extremely well against. And just to give you a bit more flavor, exclusives sound difficult, right? Speaker 200:19:13But that's the power of RGA. That's the power of our platform is our ability to have that global team to have that ability to take risk around the world and assess the right risk. So oftentimes, exclusives will come from either a new type of risk that we add to a product or a new underwriting type of underwriting or a new reinsurance structure. Exclusives can RJ is quite uniquely positioned because we take both the asset and the biometric risk. A lot of reinsurers and competitors focus on the asset side, some focus on the biometric, us being really the only U. Speaker 200:19:51S.-based global range life and health reinsurer allows us to take both the asset and the biometric side. And that's what we call our sweet spot. So, yes, we remain as bullish as ever in terms of the proportion of exclusives that we're getting. It's very much a North Star for us and an aspirational culture for us. And to me, that flywheel effect is starting to permeate throughout your whole organization and we're relatively early stages of seeing the impact of that change. Speaker 300:20:28Thank you for that. My follow-up question, I know there was record deployment of capital into in force. And I think you said $150,000,000 improvement in excess capital as that's ceded. But how should we be thinking about buybacks within the framework of the capital allocation? Is it more of a timing with that ceding? Speaker 300:20:48Can you talk about that a little bit? Thank you. Speaker 100:20:51Hi, John, it's Todd. As you know, we manage capital over time. And as Tony mentioned, we do like to deploy capital back into the business where we like the transaction, the risk return profile. We've maintained a pretty steady dividend over time. And we've always balanced it out with share repurchases when we didn't see an active pipeline. Speaker 100:21:17As we've already discussed, we had a record deployment of capital in the transaction in the Q1. And the pipeline continues to look pretty healthy in the transactions that we really like. Operator00:21:35The next question comes from Bob Huang with Morgan Stanley. Please go ahead. Speaker 400:21:42Hey, good morning. First is on your B36 derivatives and actually, no, first one is really just the difference between net income and operating income just to broadly think about the below the line overall. Understand that a lot of that came from entry risk transfer deals this quarter because of the one time impact. But as you think about future PRT deals, as you think about becoming more optimistic in that area, are there ways to further minimize the impact of the below the line from that Speaker 100:22:21it's that upfront loss, if you want to call it that is, it's really as a result of LDTI adoption and accounting We have to discount the liabilities at a lower rate than what the investment yield is just the way the accounting standard is written. We certainly are looking at ways to see if we can address that somehow. But as of unfortunately right now, we do see that upfront loss in net income, but from an operating income perspective, we'll amortize it in over time with how the earnings emerge. Speaker 400:23:03Okay. Thanks. Second one is really on your biometrics. Obviously, definitely a lot of tailwind and even potentially more tailwind coming up from biometrics. But can you maybe give us a little bit of more details in terms of how you think about the potentials of the biometrics going forward or the potential risks there as well? Speaker 400:23:23Is there a specific geography where you think you can take more advantage of the biometrics? Or are there any regulatory risks that we should be aware of going forward? Speaker 200:23:33Yes. Maybe I'll start and then I'll hand it over to Jonathan to get to more specifics. I mentioned in my comments the many tailwinds we have. And I'll sort of just share with you at a company level just some of them. I mean, one is the interest rates that are higher than historic. Speaker 200:23:53One is some of the changing capital regulations that are creating opportunities around the world. But to answer your question on the biometric, the fact that there is still major under insurance of the population around the world, which gets filled up over time as GDP and incomes grow as well as continued medical technology advances. So I'll hand it over to Jonathan as to elaborating more on the biometric side. Speaker 500:24:22Yes. Thanks, Tony. And I agree with you. I think we are seeing widespread opportunities around the world. So being, specialist in all the biometric risks really, so mortality, morbidity and longevity gives us the flexibility to pursue the best opportunities globally. Speaker 500:24:40And then just to pick up on what Tony mentioned about technological advances and things, I think we remain encouraged by what we're seeing in emerging data relative to weight loss drugs as an example GLP-one type drugs. We think that that could lead to measurable improvements in both mortality and morbidity over time. And it's not just limited to that from a technology perspective. So diagnostic tools like liquid biopsies for cancer, AI genetic editing and advances in protein activity as well and medical science, I think are all things that are just examples of things that we see that could be a tailwind for mortality going forward. And given our risk exposure and our weight to mortality, overall, I think that would that bodes well for the organization. Operator00:25:35The next question comes from Jimmy Bhullar with JPMorgan. Please go ahead. Speaker 600:25:41Hey, good morning. So first just a question for Jonathan. If we look at industry or population deaths, it seems like based on CDC data that they're still fairly elevated, improved from COVID times, but still elevated versus pre COVID. But it seems like your results have actually been pretty good. So what is it that you're seeing in your business that's different than the general population trends? Speaker 500:26:10Yes. Thanks for the question, Jimmy. And you're right. I mean, what we see in the CDC data is that the excess mortality is still elevated. I think the single, mid single digit percentages in 2023 when you look at the actual experience in the population. Speaker 500:26:23I mean, as the excess mortality starts to come down, which is the trend definitely over the last couple of years, it starts to get more difficult to map that directly to between population and an insured book of business as the differences are the absolute level of excess mortality is lower. What we saw this quarter, in particular in the U. S. Was favorable large claims experience, which as you know from prior quarters, can be volatile period over period. So we were on the we benefited from favorable large claims experience this quarter. Speaker 500:26:55I'd say our expectations have not changed from when we reviewed our assumptions in Q3 of last year. Still expect some level of excess mortality, for the intermediate term, which is reflected in our reserve assumptions, but we do expect that to decline over the next several years. Speaker 600:27:13And then maybe for Tony, if there are improvements in doesn't seem like companies doesn't seem like companies are pricing the longevity business and pension business based on expected improvements in mortality. And obviously, they're not it's not a given that, that would happen as well. But how are you pricing your longevity business? Are you baking in the cushion for potential better life expectancy? Because if you were, then you'd have a hard time being competitive in the market. Speaker 600:27:53Or are you okay pricing based on the actual data given that you've got more exposure to mortality anyway? Speaker 200:28:01Sure. Thank you, Jimmy, very much for the question. Look, first key point is the way we set our mortality and longevity assumptions are very consistent, right? I mean, at the end of the day, there are two sides of the same coin. They're both forms of mortality. Speaker 200:28:20Whatever we do on the mortality side, we do on the longevity side. I would say we're spending a lot of energy, as Jonathan shared, analyzing the data, but also doing a lot of medical R and D to get a stronger sense of appreciation of what could happen due to the medical advances. So and obviously, any medical advances that we believe will occur and price for once again, as you shared, would be net very good for RGA given we are still way more materially longer on mortality than longevity. Speaker 100:28:59One point maybe I would add on, Jimmy, is that our mortality average age our mortality block average age is lower or younger than the longevity business and the longevity block is average age is higher or older. So there's less room for the improvement to take effect, if you will. Speaker 200:29:21Yes. Maybe further to add to that. To Todd's point, there's also some socioeconomic differences. So the mortality block tends to be higher socioeconomic. Obviously, the first to be able to afford these new medical advances in the drugs. Operator00:29:45The next question comes from Joel Juerits with Dowling Partners. Please go ahead. Speaker 700:29:52Hey, good morning. So last quarter, you guys provided updated financial targets and earnings outlook and you since followed it up with this record quarter of in force transactions. I guess how much deployment did you factor into those targets? And was most of this activity known and factored into those earnings and growth outlooks? Are we looking at some solid upside to what you provided? Speaker 100:30:14Yes, this is Todd. Yes, we did factor in deployment in the transactions into the intermediate financial targets that we provided back last quarter. I would say we're off to a little bit faster start than we had anticipated. A lot of transactions that we had been working on came our way this quarter. So there is definitely some built into those projections, but we're running a little bit intermediate targets, but we're I said we got a fast start Speaker 300:30:47onto that. Speaker 700:30:47Okay. And then, Thanh, can you just talk about how to think about the earnings emergence from all these transactions? How long does it typically take for you guys to redeploy the assets and whatnot? Speaker 100:31:01Yes. So overall, in the aggregate, we're pricing to our targeted returns. So we'll see that those margins come in over time at our expected levels. But probably depending on the transaction, it can take a year, maybe 2 years to ramp up to get to that the level of overall return. As you mentioned, we do some asset repositioning early on and there can be some other financial reporting impacts as well. Speaker 100:31:33But overall, we should be reaching a good level within a couple of years. Operator00:31:41The next question comes from Wes Carmichael with Autonomous Research. Please go ahead. Speaker 300:31:48Hey, good morning. Thanks for the question. You talked about some of the capital relief from the Ruby Re retro session that's planned. Should we continue to think about Ruby Re being effectively kind of a quota share for 50% of U. S. Speaker 300:31:59Asset intensive? I know now that's I think within U. S. Financial Solutions, but is there any change to the thinking there? Speaker 100:32:05No. Yes. So for qualifying business, which is the U. S. Asset intensive business, yes, I would think about it as a quota share of 50% or even up to 70% of new transactions that come in that are U. Speaker 100:32:20S. Asset intensive, up to the capacity that Ruby rehabs, which will probably be an equity capital perspective $450,000,000 to $500,000,000 or so. Speaker 300:32:33It. Thanks, Todd. And then thanks for the new Slide 7. I just had a question to clarify that. The favorable claim experience that wasn't recognized in the period, is that recognized on a straight line basis basically evenly every quarter or is it more closer to the period which declines over time? Speaker 100:32:52It will come in over time over the underlying duration of the business, if you will, and it'll all depend on there's that net premium ratio and how that impacts the release of earnings of people over time. Speaker 500:33:10Yes. And just maybe Todd to add on to when we look at the weighted average duration of our business, our traditional business, and our GFS business, it's probably in that 10 to 15 year range on average, just to give you a sense of the period over which those earnings would emerge. Operator00:33:31The next question comes from Suneet Kamath with Jefferies. Please go ahead. Speaker 800:33:37Thanks. Tony, I wanted to circle back to something you talked about in terms of the deals that you were looking at, but that you didn't end up doing. Yes, I don't expect you to give specifics, but just some color around what caused you guys to kind of walk away? Was it the liability profile or the pricing? And to the extent you can comment, were those deals eventually executed in the market? Speaker 800:33:57Thanks for the question. We Speaker 200:34:06we once again, it's so embedded in our culture to have that discipline of making sure the risk return trade off is right. So it may at times it could be a liability is not perfectly fine. It's just a question of we pride ourselves on the ability to be able to price most liability types. And then the question is, is it the right thing to do for our shareholders? But I want to add on top, oftentimes these transactions transact or oftentimes they don't or oftentimes clients have to change the way they do things. Speaker 200:34:45So if I point you towards just a few years ago, we had a spate of large longevity wins in the Netherlands, which sort of seemed like an overnight success, but that was an area where we had been pricing transactions probably for a number of years until once again the risk return trade off played out. And there's other numerous examples of that. Speaker 800:35:08Got it. And then just relatedly, long term care is an area that I think historically you've been reluctant to pursue. Just wanted to get your current thoughts. Obviously, we saw a transaction late last year, rates are higher. Does that change your appetite for that line of business? Speaker 200:35:25Yes, I think definitely, firstly, our current book of business is the newer generations of long term care. We believe it's performed very, very well and continues to do so. However, once again, we pride ourselves on being the liability experts of the world in the life and health space, which long term care is one type of risk, And we will look at that type of risk, and we will be selective, and we will apply discipline. And I wouldn't say it's the top of our priority list. There's just so many opportunities for us to apply ourselves, our talent, our capital given the numerous headwinds that I numerous tailwinds that I communicated earlier. Operator00:36:16The next question comes from Ryan Krueger with KBW. Please go ahead. Speaker 900:36:22Hey, good morning. So recognizing that you just raised your ROE target to 12% to 14%, but I think if I take the results of the last few quarters and adjust for the actual to expected biometric results that you've provided, it looks like you're running closer to a 14% to 15% ROE. So just is I guess just wanted to get some more perspective on do you think you're kind of running more towards the higher end of that 12% to 14% or above at this Speaker 100:36:56point? Hey, Ryan, it's Todd. I'll start off with that. Yes, we have been performing quite well. Things the worked out quality and the underlying biometrics experience has been performing well. Speaker 100:37:09We've had some other positive impacts as well. We just recently put out a 12% to 14%. Clearly, we're not ready to adjust that at this point, but we're glad to see that we are hitting that high end of the range. Speaker 900:37:30Got it. And then, Tony, could you talk more about the Japan opportunity? It seems like things are really starting to open up there both for you and some of your competitors in terms of in force transactions in Japan. Speaker 200:37:46Yes. Thanks for the question. We have Japan as a market both on the traditional and the GFS side. Probably your question centers more around the GFS side. We believe we were one of the pioneers in that market on the first transaction just on top of my head probably 7, 8 years ago, and incredibly well positioned given our local brand there, right? Speaker 200:38:17And the transaction we won was competed, and we were very delighted to win that transaction given the relationship we have with them, given the size of the transaction. I raised the comment about being one of the pioneers is and in many of the Asian markets, this is a case where if you look back 10 years, maybe even 20 years ago, we were the only one saying these things. And when competition comes in, it often validates or verifies to the whole market that these things are effective and efficient ways of managing capital or asset risk and so on. So there is increased competition there. We feel very much, obviously, given Q1 that we're doing very well. Speaker 200:39:03We can appreciate some of the reasons given our gosh, we started there in 1996, so nearly 30 year experience there. There were other transactions, which I won't go into detail, in Japan that we executed in Q1 that were strategic in nature also. So we're very positive about that area of our business. Operator00:39:28The next question comes from Nick Anido with Wells Fargo. Please go Speaker 1000:39:33ahead. Hey, thanks. Good morning. I'm on for Elyse. Both my questions center more towards Ruby Re. Speaker 1000:39:41The first being, I guess, should we think of Ruby Re and any subsequent sidecars raised as replacing any growth capital that RGA would have to raise on its own? Speaker 100:39:57That's right. I think if you sort of stop we look at overall opportunities in the market from a business perspective and something like the alternative capital or committed capital provided by a vehicle like Ruby Re helps us with the overall capital need for the growth of that business as well as hopefully leverage up the capital that we apply to the transactions, leverage those returns up over time and also give us confidence that we've got the capital to go after some of these larger transactions. Speaker 1000:40:33Got it. That's helpful. And then I guess as a follow-up, I think you guys had said that the PRT in the quarter didn't go into Ruby Re. What was the reason for that? And should we be thinking about any sort of like impacts or reasons why there should be asset intensive business that doesn't go into Ruby Re in the future? Speaker 100:41:02I would just bring it back to when we set up Ruby Re, we defined what subject business would go into Ruby Re automatically subject certain conditions and the subject business is the U. S. Asset intensive business at this point. Operator00:41:23The next question comes from Tom Gallagher with Evercore. Please go ahead. Speaker 1100:41:30Good morning. A few follow ups on that similar theme. Just want to understand what of the deals that were publicly announced, there were several in Q1. How many of those showed up this quarter in that seven $37,000,000 of in force transactions have deployed capital into that. Are there a bunch more that of those that didn't close that will show up in the deployed capital in 2Q? Speaker 1100:42:01Can you just give a sense for what the expectation be based on what you've announced, but maybe not yet closed heading into 2Q? Thanks. Speaker 100:42:12Yes. Hi, Tom. Yes. So all the announced transactions except for the Canadian transaction were in the 737,000,000 dollars capital deployment number in the Q1. Speaker 200:42:30And Tom, to add to your second comment on deals we haven't closed, all I could say there is the pipeline is incredibly active across the globe in all our businesses. So but we don't sort of speculate on which deals we'll be able to close. But as Todd mentioned, we spent so much energy, obviously, on the front end of our business, but absolutely on the capital management side and finding alternate sources of capital. So we're very happy with our capital levels and believe we have plenty of capital to fund future growth. Speaker 1100:43:09Got you. And then Tony, suffice to say the $933,000,000 you did last year, you probably end up exceeding that I'm guessing just based on the Canadian deal plus the if you book a few more that are in the pipeline, is that would you say that's a fair assessment? Speaker 200:43:27I think, yes, that would be the expectation. Speaker 1100:43:31Thanks. And just from a just want to understand, I have your thought process behind funding all of that or potentially funding the growth. You have Ruby Ray obviously and it sounds like not much has gone into that or there's a lot of capacity there potentially to as a source of capital. But then is there anything else we should be thinking about? Are you looking to do other fundraising, other sidecar capital on international or otherwise? Speaker 100:44:09Yes. So for Ruby Re, so far as we announced, I guess it was in December last year, we put what we called some seed blocks in there, some existing blocks in the retro into Ruby Re late last year. Just due to the timing process and so on, nothing so far this year, but we will be retroing some more business in there as the year goes on. And then as far as other fundraising, as I mentioned in my comments, we do have some debt capacity at the Holdco and at some of the operating company levels. Have you seen in the past, we've issued some other alternative forms of capital. Speaker 100:44:50We did some surplus notes back in 2021 2023. We've done some embedded value securitizations over the years, the most recent one in 2003, which is pretty nice. It helps us generate bring forward some capital and also demonstrates the value of the business that we have on our books. And we can as we've done in the past, we can also look at some strategic retro sessions where it makes sense as well. Speaker 200:45:19Yes. And Tom, I mean, yes, just to add to all of that, I mean, that's why it takes the energy and the passion to find the right source of capital that meets the underlying risk return trade off of the deal and just maximize capital efficiency for our shareholders. So but we're very active in it. And as Todd said, there's multiple opportunities and sources that over the years we've built up those options, and we will obviously not hesitate to deploy those options as needed. Operator00:45:53The next question comes from Mike Ward with Citi. Please go ahead. Speaker 100:45:58Thanks, guys. Good morning. Just hoping you could discuss the sort of the competitive landscape for whether it's new business in PRT or Financial Solutions. Just kind of thinking how are you competing when you're sitting down with potential partners and there's competitors out there that might have things like bigger sort of Bermuda subsidiaries or more aggressive investment strategies. Clearly, you're winning new business and doing very well. Speaker 100:46:35Just curious if you can help us think through this. Speaker 200:46:38Yes. Thanks for the question. And once again, it just comes down to the breadth of our platform, the geography, the number of different types of risk types we can we have available to take the client base, the probably hundreds of clients we have over the globe where we have very close and intimate partnerships. So we're really the way we compete, and as you mentioned, obviously, we're doing okay given the first quarter and last year, but we compete by not competing, right? We're really, as I mentioned earlier, and I won't go into all that detail again, we're really seeking those exclusivity. Speaker 200:47:16And we find when you do seek those exclusivities, you either, 1, get the exclusivities. At times, maybe they have to call another reinsurer into be part of it, but you're going to be in good shape. So it's really leveraging off all those capabilities. You may wonder, gee, why the huge deal flow over the last year and a bit? I would say there's probably multiple reasons, but really RGA's edge has always been around customer focus, around serving our clients and innovating. Speaker 200:47:52And those things are kind of harder to do over Zoom. But once obviously the environment changed and we were out there being able to leverage off one of our core strengths, you're starting to see some of the success that comes from that. Speaker 100:48:08Got it. Thanks, Tony. That was all I had. Operator00:48:12The next question comes from Wes Carmichael with Autonomous Research. Please go ahead. Speaker 300:48:18Hey, thanks for taking the follow-up. Just one quick one on Ruby Re. Speaker 400:48:22Is there a good rule of thumb Speaker 300:48:23to think about the leverage there? I think, Todd, you said that there's $450,000,000 or $500,000,000 of equity capacity there. Is there can you lever that 15 times? I'm just trying to get a sense for the size of liabilities that might fit there. Is it $6,000,000,000 $7,500,000,000 or is it something north of that? Speaker 100:48:40Well, to end on the underlying business and so on, not clear if you're asking from a liability perspective or Speaker 500:48:50I guess where I'm going is Speaker 300:48:52I just wanted to figure out if you did a bunch of big PRT deals, how much do you think you could possibly use that sidecar for? Speaker 100:49:07Yes. I think for the current capacity, I'm trying to think in my head, probably 15 times is not far off. Speaker 300:49:19Okay. That's helpful. Operator00:49:24The next question comes from Tom Gallagher with Evercore. Please go ahead. Speaker 1100:49:31Thanks. Just a follow-up on the biometric slide. So the extra profits of 80,000,000 dollars for 1Q 2024 that are getting deferred. When I think about GAAP versus your statutory and cash flow, Would you say most of that would be coming through in statutory, meaning not getting deferred the same the way it is under the new GAAP? And if so, are we potentially going to see a period where your GAAP earnings or your free cash flow, I should say, end up being like a very high percentage of your GAAP earnings as a result of that? Speaker 100:50:15Yes. So, yes, depending on with the I guess the experience is favorable or unfavorable and what type of cohorts it falls under for LDTI. Some of it for GAAP basis will be deferred, where for regulatory purposes or statutory, most of that would come through like I did on old GAAP would come through currently. Speaker 500:50:42Yes. And just to add on Todd too, I mean, maybe it's obvious, but clearly there's also other material differences between GAAP and statutory accounting. So there would be other drivers other than just the claims experience. Speaker 1100:50:56Yes. That was another thing I was wondering because you strengthened reserves under LDTI, you did not strengthen reserves under statutory. So there's a different basis to measure offset. Is that a fair way to think about it? Speaker 500:51:18Yes. I mean, I guess, when you think about the reserves that would be released on death or claim, you're right, there could be a difference there, both plus or minus, right? I mean, it depends on the as Todd mentioned, there's the basis is quite different. So yes, I don't have a rule of thumb or a number I can point you to, but there would definitely be differences between the 2. Speaker 1100:51:39Okay. Thanks. Operator00:51:43This concludes our question and answer session. I would like to turn the conference back over to Tony Chang for any closing remarks. Speaker 200:51:52Thank you for your questions and your continued interest in RGA. This was a very strong quarter to start the year and a record in many ways, further demonstrating the substantial earning power in our business. We remain very well positioned to capitalize on the many growth opportunities ahead, and we are confident in our ability to continue to deliver attractive returns to our shareholders. I look forward to seeing you all once again in June during our Investor Day in New York City. This concludes our Q1 call. Speaker 200:52:25Thank you very much. Operator00:52:28The conference has now concluded. Thank you for attending today's presentation. You may now disconnect.Read morePowered by