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Earnings HistoryForecast RxSight EPS ResultsActual EPS-$0.25Consensus EPS -$0.17Beat/MissMissed by -$0.08One Year Ago EPS-$0.42RxSight Revenue ResultsActual Revenue$29.51 millionExpected Revenue$27.56 millionBeat/MissBeat by +$1.95 millionYoY Revenue Growth+68.70%RxSight Announcement DetailsQuarterQ1 2024Date5/6/2024TimeAfter Market ClosesConference Call DateMonday, May 6, 2024Conference Call Time4:30PM ETUpcoming EarningsRxSight's Q2 2025 earnings is scheduled for Wednesday, May 7, 2025Conference Call ResourcesConference Call AudioConference Call TranscriptPress Release (8-K)Quarterly Report (10-Q)Earnings HistoryCompany ProfilePowered by RxSight Q1 2024 Earnings Call TranscriptProvided by QuartrMay 6, 2024 ShareLink copied to clipboard.There are 11 speakers on the call. Operator00:00:00Good day and thank you for standing by. Welcome to the RxSight First Quarter 2024 Earnings Conference Call. At this time, all participants are in a listen only mode. After the speakers' presentation, there will be a question and answer session. Please be advised that today's conference is being recorded. Operator00:00:27I would now like to hand the conference over to your speaker today, Oliver Moratjevic, VP of Investor Relations. Please go ahead. Speaker 100:00:36Thank you, operator. Presenting today are RXI President and Chief Executive Officer, Doctor. Ron Kurtz and Chief Financial Officer, Shelly Tunnan. Earlier today, RX Sight released financial results for the 3 months ended March 31, 2024. A copy of the press release is available on the company's Web site. Speaker 100:00:56Before we begin, I would like to inform you that comments and responses to questions during today's call reflect management's views as of today, May 6, 2024, and will include forward looking and opinion statements, including predictions, estimates, plans, expectations and other information. Actual results may differ materially from those expressed or implied as a result of certain risks and uncertainties. These risks and uncertainties are more fully described in our press release issued today and in our filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission or SEC. Our SEC filings can be found on our website or the SEC's website. Investors are cautioned not to play undue reliance on forward looking statements, and we disclaim any obligation to update or revise these forward looking statements. Speaker 100:01:46We will also discuss certain non GAAP financial measures. Disclosures regarding non GAAP financial measures, including reconciliations with the most comparable GAAP measures, can be found in the press release. Please note that this conference will be available for audio replay on our Investor website. With that, I will turn the call over to our President and Chief Executive Officer, Doctor. Ron Kurtz. Speaker 100:02:07Ron? Speaker 200:02:09Good afternoon, and thank you for joining us. In a moment, Shelly will review our Q1 financial results and provide an update to our 2024 guidance, which we believe once again demonstrates the sustained clinical and commercial performance of our light adjustable lens technology. After Shelly's financial review, I will return with some updates from the recent American Society of Cataract and Refractive Surgery meeting, which included the full launch of LAL plus the newest member of our light adjustable lens platform. Please take it away, Shelly. Speaker 300:02:43Thank you, Ron, and good afternoon, everyone. RX Sight generated Q1 2024 revenue of $29,500,000 up 69% compared to the 17.5 $1,000,000 in the Q4 of 2023. During the quarter, we sold 20,218 LALs and generated $19,900,000 in revenue, up 92% and 12% compared to the first and 4th quarters of 2023 respectively. In Q1 of this year, LAL revenue represented 67% of total revenue, an increase from 59% 62% in the 1st and 4th quarters of 2023, respectively. During the Q1 of 2024, we sold 66 LDDs, up 18% to 56 units in the year ago period. Speaker 300:03:49As expected, capital equipment sales reflected the typical Q1 seasonality. Therefore, on a sequential basis, our LDD units sold for the quarter were down 14% compared to the 77 units in the 4th quarter of 2023. During the quarter, LDD sales generated revenue of $8,700,000 up 35% and down 13% versus the 1st and 4th quarters of 2023 respectively. As of March 31, 2024, our installed base stood at 732 units, up 61% and 10% versus the 1st and 4th quarters of 2023, respectively. Gross margin in the Q1 of 2024 was 70% compared to 59% 62% in the 1st and 4th quarters of 2023 respectively. Speaker 300:04:49The increase primarily reflects the shift in product mix with the higher margin LAL revenue advancing to 67% of revenue. Lower cost to manufacture both our LAL and LDD also contributed to the gross margin expansion in the quarter. SG and A expenses in the Q1 of 2024 were $23,300,000 representing an increase of $7,000,000 or 44 percent versus $16,300,000 in the year ago quarter. This year over year change was primarily due to an increase in personnel costs, higher stock based compensation expense and additional marketing study spending. On a sequential basis, SG and A expenses increased 10% due primarily to higher number of personnel and Phase 4 commercial study costs. Speaker 300:05:44During the Q1 of this year, R and expenses rose 11% to $8,000,000 compared to $7,200,000 in the Q1 of 2023. This year over year change primarily reflects an increase in salaries and stock based compensation. Compared to the Q4 of 2023, R and D expenses in the Q1 rose by 9%, primarily driven by a one time change in allocation of certain R and D related costs. We reported a GAAP net loss in the Q1 of $9,100,000 or a loss of $0.25 per basic and diluted shares using weighted average shares outstanding of 36,800,000 shares. This compares to a GAAP net loss of $13,200,000 or $0.42 per share on a basic and diluted basis in the Q1 of 2020. Speaker 300:06:42Note also that stock based compensation in the Q1 of 2024 was $4,700,000 resulting in a non GAAP loss of $4,400,000 or loss of $0.12 per basic and diluted shares. Please refer to the unaudited non GAAP reconciliation and disclosure included in today's press release for more information. We ended the Q1 of 2024 with cash, cash equivalents and short term investments of $125,400,000 compared to $127,200,000 on December 31, 2023. Cash used in the quarter for operations was offset by $8,000,000 of net cash received from stock option exercise. While we always have some cash generated from stock option exercises, more stock options were exercised than normal given the longer than usual open window and increased stock price. Speaker 300:07:46Approximately 16% of the stock option shares were exercised related to 10b5-one transactions. We are pleased to announce that in April of this year, we entered into a new lease and amended 2 existing at our campus in Aliso Vieques, California to extend the rental terms and options to ensure continued long term access to our facilities, acquire additional square footage to expand manufacturing and align the lease end dates for each of our 4 facilities. Moving on to our 2024 outlook. We are increasing our 2024 revenue, gross margin and operating expense guidance as follows: revenue of $132,000,000 to $137,000,000 up from previous guidance of $128,000,000 to $135,000,000 implying year over year growth of 48% to 54 percent and assuming continued sequential quarterly growth with normal seasonality in the Q3 due to summer vacations by both patients and doctors. Gross margin of 68% to 70%, up from our previous guidance of 65% to 67%. Speaker 300:09:07The new guidance is primarily driven by slightly higher than expected launch revenue contributions from the LAL and continued cost reductions to produce both our LAL and LDD along with continued pricing discipline for our LDD. Gross margin is likely to vary modestly during the year depending on the mix between LAL and LDD revenue in any one quarter. Operating expenses of $126,000,000 to $130,000,000 up from our previous guidance of 125 $1,000,000 to $128,000,000 and representing an implied increase of 21% to 25% over 2023. Our spending is focused on continuing efforts to leverage our commercial momentum, grow our educational efforts, develop our pipeline and expand internationally as regulatory approvals are obtained. Note that the operating expense estimate includes non cash stock based compensation expenses between $22,000,000 $25,000,000 With that, I'll turn the call back to Ron. Speaker 200:10:20Thank you, Shelly. RXStriTe's strong first quarter performance was followed by continued keen interest in our light adjustable lens technology at the recent annual meeting of the American Society of Cataract and Refractive Surgery, the 2nd largest U. S. Ophthalmic conference with over 5,000 attendees. The LAL was prominently featured in over 20 formal session presentations and its use in various clinical settings was a common topic in discussion forums. Speaker 200:10:48In one of these presentations, Doctor. Hunter Newsome reported on data collected from approximately 1,000 bilaterally implanted LAL subjects at nearly 100 practices. Approximately 90% of LAL patients attained binocular and corrected vision of 2020 or better, while over 90% were able to read J2 or 5.5 with both eyes. Doctor. Newsome also discussed the newest member of the RX Sight platform, the LAL plus presenting initial clinical data from practices that compared monocular distance corrected vision in over 200 LAL plus and 100 LALIs. Speaker 200:11:28With both group while both groups attained excellent distance vision, LAL Plus eyes exhibited more than a line improvement at NEAR. Both groups demonstrated excellent binocular vision with comparatively high rates of patients achieving 2020 or better. Doctors now have 2 LALs to choose from to achieve the most customized visual outcomes possible after cataract surgery. With the growing number of doctors and practices offering the LAL and LAL plus as well as increasing uptake by patients, we believe we are establishing a new standard for premium IOL offerings in the U. S. Speaker 200:12:06Based on this we are even more committed to reaching the full potential of RX Sight's unique adjustable technology and premium market opportunity. This includes expanding programs that enhance the clinical knowledge base of ophthalmologists, optometrists and other eye care professionals, thereby leading to a better informed and served public. We believe that when patients understand the full benefits of adjustability, they are more likely to choose an LAL over a fixed lens alternative and thereby optimize their vision in ways that are meaningful to them. Reaching our full potential also includes maintaining our commitment to rapid innovation, exemplified not only by the recently commercialized LAL plus but also by ongoing advancements to the LTD and LAL insertion technology. In addition, we continue to believe that the success of the LAL in both the U. Speaker 200:13:03S. And Canada can be replicated in most major markets and look forward to building successful international programs, particularly in Asia and Europe following regulatory approvals. Overall, we feel our strong first quarter results along with a very positive reception at this year's ASCRS further support our vision to make adjustability the standard for premium cataract and lens replacement surgery. With that, I'll ask the operator to open the call for questions. Operator00:13:33Thank Our first question is going to come from the line of Robbie Marcus with JPMorgan. Your line is open. Please go ahead. Speaker 400:13:57Great. Thanks for taking the question and congrats on a very nice quarter. 2 for me. Maybe first to start, volumes both in LAL and LTV were really strong in the quarter, but also so was pricing, if I do my math correct here. So maybe speak to what you're seeing in the field in terms of both adoption trends as you continue to place more than expected LPDs and good utilization, but also on the pricing side because it continues to be robust for both of them? Speaker 400:14:31Thanks. Speaker 300:14:32Okay. Why don't we start with Ron on the adoption trends and I'll follow-up on the ASPs. Speaker 200:14:39Yes. I think that as you noted, Ravi, the adoption trends continue to be very positive. We think that's a combination of the clinical outcomes with the LAL and now the LAL plus as well as the continued focus of our customer base on the premium IOL market and the potential to offset the revenue losses that they're seeing in their reimbursed areas. So overall, we anticipate continued strong adoption. And with that, we've been able to maintain good pricing discipline. Speaker 300:15:23Thank you, Ron. And as you recall and know, Robbie, in the Q3 when we newer LED, we increased our price by about 10%. And at that time and again at year end, we felt like the ASP would continue to hold through going into the into 2024. We certainly saw that in the Q1. The ASP was up about $3,000 as compared to the Q4. Speaker 300:15:55I don't think it's any particular item that increased that as much as mix of customers, how large they are, whether it was the 2nd or third LDD. And again, I think really good pricing discipline from our sales force bolstered by the fact that the results are excellent clinically and that we have more and more references for new doctors to go to. Speaker 400:16:28And great. Maybe as a follow-up, I wanted to talk on the competitive environment. By my math, you're closing in on 10% or so of the premium IOL market. I imagine that's a pretty disruptive mark as you look at your competitors. You're starting to take larger shares in not just some early adopters, but hitting more of the mass market appeal. Speaker 400:16:53What if anything are you seeing in terms of a response from your competitors? And how do you feel about your ability to continue to grow and take share as you're moving up the adoption curve? Thanks a lot. Speaker 200:17:06Well, I would say that as we've noted before, a significant percentage of LAL cases are coming from patients who otherwise would not have selected a premium IOL. And because of that, while some of our numbers are coming from other competitors in the premium space, a very large percentage are coming from either standard monofocal IOLs or toric IOLs, which tends to have less focus than the presbyopia correcting IOLs. So I think that that may not generate as much interest as the 10% number that you quoted might otherwise. Shelly, do you have anything you want to add? Speaker 300:18:01No, I don't think so. I think that people are taking notice of us. Certainly at ASCRS, we had you should talk about just kind of the booth traffic we had as well as the number of presentations we had in the booth and number of papers presented at ASCRS, I think that certainly has led to higher visibility for us. Speaker 200:18:22Absolutely. I think that we're there are more and more practices that are using the technology and getting excellent results and that word travels. But in terms of competitors, I think that they've been aware of our site for some time and we'll continue to follow it. Speaker 400:18:50Thanks a lot. Operator00:18:54Thank you. And one moment as we move on to our next question. And our next Speaker 500:19:10too many earnings calls. I just want to ask about a couple of things. So the installed base now is past 700. You've had a number of units in the field now for numerous years. As that installed base grows, I'm just wondering if there's any service revenue considerations we should be thinking about. Speaker 500:19:30I would imagine that can start to grow and maybe step up a little bit over the course of this year and into 2025? Speaker 300:19:40Yes, I think that's a good question, Ryan. We do have a line on our P and L for service and accessories and it's exactly what you talk about primarily service revenue. When we sell the LDD in accordance with GAAP, we carve out about $7,000 out of the LDD revenue and ASP. And that is amortized over a year period into the service line. And in addition, we find about 80% of our customers when their 1 year warranty expires take a service contract with us. Speaker 300:20:22And the other 20% tend to use time and material. And so we should continue to see that line grow as our installed base grows. Speaker 500:20:33Okay. And then, Shelly, margins were fantastic this quarter. Probably the most, I think, encouraging thing for long term investors. You're guiding a little below 70%. You did over 70% this quarter, just a hair. Speaker 500:20:49Why does that regress in the rest of the year below 70% because I mean you're just on this fantastic trajectory with more LAL sold to drive margins higher? Speaker 300:21:01Yes. I think that the primary driver for margin in any given quarter is the percent of LAL as a percent of revenue. In the Q1, it was quite high because typically you see lower LDD sales, capital sales, which we did. So I think that as you go through the next three quarters, we can see some different mix shifts as well. And of course, the LDD has a much lower gross margin than the LAL. Speaker 300:21:32And of course, as I mentioned, we did have a nice ASP bump in the Q1 as well. That might be usual or unusual as well. And we've been able to roll in lower material cost components more quickly than we have planned. But I think really the difference in any given quarter is going to be percent of LAL and percent of LDD. Speaker 500:21:59Thanks, Sean. Operator00:22:03Thank you. And one moment as we move on to our next question. Our next question is going to come from the line of Patrick Wood with Morgan Stanley. Your line is open. Please go ahead. Speaker 600:22:18Fantastic. Thank you for taking the questions. I guess the first one, I know you guys don't split the guide down, but just qualitatively for LDD placements, would you expect that kind of similar growth that we saw year on year in LDD placements in Q1, would you expect that to be a similar kind of growth trajectory through the year or a bit of an uptick in that and a drop in the LALs? I'm just trying to work out roughly the passing of those two things out even just qualitatively. Speaker 300:22:46Yes. Qualitatively, of course, the LAL grows much faster than the LDD and that's to be expected because our primary focus is not only just getting new customers, but getting new customers up faster as well as continuing to penetrate in our existing customers and get them to continue to grow. Penetrate in our existing customers and get them to continue to grow. So we have seen this shift between the LAL and LDD. The more installed base you get, you continue to get that. Speaker 300:23:20But in terms of breaking it out, I think kind of the general trends that we've been in for the last 3 or 4 years with LALs increasing much faster than LDD is indicative of what we want to do. Speaker 600:23:36Makes sense. Thank you. And then again qualitatively of the LDD placements that you've seen in the last 3, 4, 5 months outside of things, could you give us some sort of flavor how much of that is new accounts, existing accounts, buying a second system? Just how that's trended over time very recently would be helpful. Speaker 300:23:56Yes. It's predominantly new accounts. And what you see now a little bit is, I wouldn't call them repeat accounts in the following sense, because each sale is to an individual office, although the doctor or the underlying owners may be the same, right? Because you're still selling to the primary doctors in the practice that want to pick up the LAL. Some doctors have 2 or 3 separate offices. Speaker 300:24:24They start in 1, but then they might have different partners in their second and third offices. We see other people that are part of a larger network or buying group, but each of those are individual sales. But I would say the vast majority are brand new customers to us that we haven't had in our installed base. There always are some that buy that we know and they're really just expanding their footprint in their practices or in their network. Speaker 600:24:54Brilliant. Thank you so much. Operator00:24:58Thank you. And one moment as we move on to our next question. And our next question is going to come from the line of David Sexton with Needham and Company. Your line is open. Please go ahead. Speaker 700:25:13Hi. This is Joseph on for David. Just wanting to know how you guys are thinking about the competitive landscape with Odyssey in kind of an early launch and PanOptix Pro coming in the future? Speaker 200:25:32Well, thank you. I would categorize those competitive offerings as being part of the fixed lenses that are very similar to other fixed lenses in the marketplace. And so, while they may gain some attention at the end of the day, they're going to be compared against those more similar products than say the light adjustable lens. We expect that the market will continue to see new offerings, but that the LAL will continue to have a unique set of benefits for patients. Speaker 700:26:15Okay. Got you. And then maybe just a quick one. Can you give some color around balance sheet and how you guys are thinking about runway to free cash flow profitability? Speaker 300:26:28Yes. I think that what you have seen is reduced cash use in each quarter as we've increased both revenue and gross margin. What you did see in this guidance is that we had a pretty big increase in our guidance for gross margin, but we also did increase OpEx a bit. And I think the increase in gross margin business and opportunity, we let most of those dollars fall to the bottom line, but we will continue to continue this balance between growth and gross margin in percent and absolute dollars with continued investment in OpEx. But I think we've been very careful in this guidance balance both. Speaker 700:27:11Okay, sure. Thank you very much for taking our questions. Speaker 300:27:16Thank you. Operator00:27:17Thank you. And one moment for our next question. And our next question is going to come from the line of Tom Stefan with Stifel. Your line is open. Please go ahead. Speaker 800:27:31Great. Hi, everyone. Thanks for taking the questions. Maybe I'll start with LAL plus Could you maybe, I guess, qualitatively explain a bit how LAL plus was contemplated in 2024 guidance? Maybe in terms of the cadence of the rollout, I guess, in other words, does guidance assume kind of a methodical ramp of LAL plus Is it a fast ramp up, maybe somewhere in between? Speaker 800:27:56Any color there would be helpful. Speaker 300:28:00Okay. In terms of mix between LAL and LAL plus they're priced at the same amount at $1,000 per unit, right? And I think that for us and Ron can comment on this a little bit more, part of the pricing strategy, of course, is that we want the doctor and patient to pick the ideal lens for them, knowing that both are adjustable. And we think that the results that we had in the Q1 are part of just our original guidance or strategy for the year with this concept of having 2 LALs in our product family overall. I don't know if you would comment anything additional on that Ron? Speaker 200:28:49No, I mean, recall that the LAL plus was approved in 2023 and it was we had some initiated some initial Phase 4 clinical studies in the fall. So we certainly had that in our minds developing 2024 guidance. Speaker 800:29:12Got it. That's helpful. And then just my follow-up, I guess, on gross margin. Shelly, can you maybe level set us on where gross margin stand between your different products? Because when I run a low 30% gross margin on the LDD sales, I'm arriving at maybe 85% plus gross margin on the rest of the business. Speaker 800:29:34Are those fair places to be on both sides? And I guess I'm mainly curious about where LAL gross margin is tracking toward? Thanks. Speaker 300:29:44Yes. Well, we don't break out both of them. Certainly, we provided some information overall. As I've always stated, our gross margin on the LDD, the peak capital equipment, we try and get between 20% 30%. As you go back into early 2023, we were below the 20% or right at. Speaker 300:30:06Today, we are above the 30% and what I would call well above overall. And just this little $3,000 higher ASP in the first quarter contributed to about a 2 percentage point increase in gross margin for the LDD. So we're trending a bit higher than we would otherwise. And I contribute that to 1, a good pricing ASP discipline on the with our sales force, the value of the product as well as the fact that we were able to roll in some lower material costs a little bit earlier. On the LAL side, we don't comment, but we believe that, that product is in this kind of range, in the 80% something range and probably likely over a very long time to become a 90% product. Speaker 300:31:02But that's a kind of way out there. You've got to get your volumes up for that to happen. Speaker 800:31:09That's great. Thanks, Shelly. Thanks, Ron. Speaker 200:31:11Thank you. Operator00:31:13Thank you. And one moment for our next question. And our next question is going to come from the line of Larry Biegelsen with Wells Fargo. Your line is open. Please go ahead. Speaker 900:31:26Good afternoon. Thanks for taking the question. So on the Q4 call, you said you'd be talking more about international markets later this year. And today I heard spending is going towards OUS clearances. And Ron, you spoke more about Europe and Asia in your prepared remarks today than I heard on the Q4 call. Speaker 900:31:44So my question is, does this imply you're closer to other major market launches? And what are you including in the guidance for OUS markets in 2024? And I had one follow-up. Speaker 200:31:58Yes. I don't think anything has changed, Larry. We continue to focus primarily on the U. S. Market, but we pursue our regulatory filings outside the U. Speaker 200:32:11S. In attractive markets and we certainly will be updating as we make progress in those. Speaker 300:32:18And I think as far as revenue goes in 2024, obviously, we're in Canada that has grown nicely for us, has been a good market for us. I think in terms of the other markets, these regulatory cycles are getting pretty long. For instance, in Europe, we've seen it longer than we originally anticipated and continues to get pushed out. And if we have anything outside of Canada internationally, I would expect in 2024 it would be pretty minor. Speaker 900:32:50Got it. And one follow-up question for me. Utilization, it looks like it was about 9.2 LALs per LDD per month in the Q1 and it grew about 5% a year. It looks like it's a little slower than what we've seen in the last few quarters. Why is that and how are you guys thinking about utilization for the rest of this year? Speaker 900:33:13Thank you. Speaker 300:33:15So I think the difference between my numbers and your numbers is that we calculate the number of LALs per LDD by taking as the number of LALs over the number of LDDs installed at the beginning of the quarter, right? So you don't get a lot of normal LAL revenue out of new installs. But in fact, kind of if I look back, we were at 10.2 in the 4th quarter and we were at 10.1 in the first quarter, which I think is terrific overall. And kind of if you go back to, let's say, even Q4 of 2022, we're about 8.9%. So I think that we've gotten good sequential growth, although a little dip in the Q3 of 2023 for seasonality. Speaker 900:34:04All right. Thanks, Shelly. Operator00:34:07Thank you. And one moment for our next question. Our next question comes from the line of Steve Lichtman with Oppenheimer and Co. Your line is open. Please go ahead. Speaker 1000:34:20Thank you. Hi, Ron and Shelly, and congratulations. I wanted to ask, Ron, I think you mentioned targeting optometrists in terms of driving awareness. I think you talked to that at ASCRS as well. Can you talk a little bit about what that looks like in the field in terms of how you approach that and some of the potential benefits in terms of referrals and things like that from targeting that group? Speaker 1000:34:49Thanks. Speaker 200:34:52Yes. So optometry is obviously a very significant part of eye care, particularly in the U. S. And are integrally involved with cataract surgery, both in terms of counseling of patients preoperatively as well as helping to manage patients through the course of their post op periods. And that can be either independent or separate optometric practices that work in conjunction with ophthalmic offices or it can be optometrists within ophthalmic practices. Speaker 200:35:33And we obviously, for those practices that have our technology, many of them have optometrists and we work very closely with them. Many of them have become very experienced and knowledgeable about our technology. They are just as academically minded as the ophthalmologists and like to present at their respective meetings and we see more of that. We certainly want to support that. And then through our ophthalmic practices, we certainly want to support their educational events with optometrists in their community as well. Speaker 200:36:22And that's something that's important in driving awareness of the technology, which is very attractive just fundamentally to optometrists generally because it fits with their overall ethos of quality of vision. Speaker 1000:36:41Great. And then just as a quick follow-up, are you adding to the sales force on the LDD side this year? And if so, how much are you increasing that? Speaker 300:36:52Yes. I think that if we look at our planned head count adds, they're primarily in our clinical applications and LA Alpha to work closely with the LDD. We may add a few on LDD, but certainly not at the rate that we add to those 2 other groups. Speaker 1000:37:11Got it. Great. Thank you. Thank you, Steve. Speaker 300:37:14Thank you, Steve. Operator00:37:16Thank you. And I would now like to hand the conference back to CEO, Ron Kurtzwiss for closing remarks. Speaker 200:37:23Well, thank you all for your time and attention today. We appreciate your interest in RX Sight and look forward to updating you on our progress in future quarters. Goodbye. Operator00:37:33This concludes today's conference call. Thank you for participating. 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Sign up for Earnings360's daily newsletter to receive timely earnings updates on RxSight and other key companies, straight to your email. Email Address About RxSightRxSight (NASDAQ:RXST), a commercial-stage medical device company, engages in the research and development, manufacture, and sale of light adjustable intraocular lenses (LAL) used in cataract surgery in the United States and internationally. It offers RxSight system that enables doctors to customize and enhance the visual acuity for patients after cataract surgery. The company's RxSight system includes RxSight Light Adjustable Lens, a special photosensitive material that changes shape and power. RxSight light delivery device, an office-based light treatment device that delivers UV light in a programmed pattern to modify the LAL based on the visual correction needed to achieve desired vision after cataract surgery. It primarily serves cataract doctors. The company was formerly known as Calhoun Vision, Inc. and changed its name to RxSight, Inc. in February 2017. 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There are 11 speakers on the call. Operator00:00:00Good day and thank you for standing by. Welcome to the RxSight First Quarter 2024 Earnings Conference Call. At this time, all participants are in a listen only mode. After the speakers' presentation, there will be a question and answer session. Please be advised that today's conference is being recorded. Operator00:00:27I would now like to hand the conference over to your speaker today, Oliver Moratjevic, VP of Investor Relations. Please go ahead. Speaker 100:00:36Thank you, operator. Presenting today are RXI President and Chief Executive Officer, Doctor. Ron Kurtz and Chief Financial Officer, Shelly Tunnan. Earlier today, RX Sight released financial results for the 3 months ended March 31, 2024. A copy of the press release is available on the company's Web site. Speaker 100:00:56Before we begin, I would like to inform you that comments and responses to questions during today's call reflect management's views as of today, May 6, 2024, and will include forward looking and opinion statements, including predictions, estimates, plans, expectations and other information. Actual results may differ materially from those expressed or implied as a result of certain risks and uncertainties. These risks and uncertainties are more fully described in our press release issued today and in our filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission or SEC. Our SEC filings can be found on our website or the SEC's website. Investors are cautioned not to play undue reliance on forward looking statements, and we disclaim any obligation to update or revise these forward looking statements. Speaker 100:01:46We will also discuss certain non GAAP financial measures. Disclosures regarding non GAAP financial measures, including reconciliations with the most comparable GAAP measures, can be found in the press release. Please note that this conference will be available for audio replay on our Investor website. With that, I will turn the call over to our President and Chief Executive Officer, Doctor. Ron Kurtz. Speaker 100:02:07Ron? Speaker 200:02:09Good afternoon, and thank you for joining us. In a moment, Shelly will review our Q1 financial results and provide an update to our 2024 guidance, which we believe once again demonstrates the sustained clinical and commercial performance of our light adjustable lens technology. After Shelly's financial review, I will return with some updates from the recent American Society of Cataract and Refractive Surgery meeting, which included the full launch of LAL plus the newest member of our light adjustable lens platform. Please take it away, Shelly. Speaker 300:02:43Thank you, Ron, and good afternoon, everyone. RX Sight generated Q1 2024 revenue of $29,500,000 up 69% compared to the 17.5 $1,000,000 in the Q4 of 2023. During the quarter, we sold 20,218 LALs and generated $19,900,000 in revenue, up 92% and 12% compared to the first and 4th quarters of 2023 respectively. In Q1 of this year, LAL revenue represented 67% of total revenue, an increase from 59% 62% in the 1st and 4th quarters of 2023, respectively. During the Q1 of 2024, we sold 66 LDDs, up 18% to 56 units in the year ago period. Speaker 300:03:49As expected, capital equipment sales reflected the typical Q1 seasonality. Therefore, on a sequential basis, our LDD units sold for the quarter were down 14% compared to the 77 units in the 4th quarter of 2023. During the quarter, LDD sales generated revenue of $8,700,000 up 35% and down 13% versus the 1st and 4th quarters of 2023 respectively. As of March 31, 2024, our installed base stood at 732 units, up 61% and 10% versus the 1st and 4th quarters of 2023, respectively. Gross margin in the Q1 of 2024 was 70% compared to 59% 62% in the 1st and 4th quarters of 2023 respectively. Speaker 300:04:49The increase primarily reflects the shift in product mix with the higher margin LAL revenue advancing to 67% of revenue. Lower cost to manufacture both our LAL and LDD also contributed to the gross margin expansion in the quarter. SG and A expenses in the Q1 of 2024 were $23,300,000 representing an increase of $7,000,000 or 44 percent versus $16,300,000 in the year ago quarter. This year over year change was primarily due to an increase in personnel costs, higher stock based compensation expense and additional marketing study spending. On a sequential basis, SG and A expenses increased 10% due primarily to higher number of personnel and Phase 4 commercial study costs. Speaker 300:05:44During the Q1 of this year, R and expenses rose 11% to $8,000,000 compared to $7,200,000 in the Q1 of 2023. This year over year change primarily reflects an increase in salaries and stock based compensation. Compared to the Q4 of 2023, R and D expenses in the Q1 rose by 9%, primarily driven by a one time change in allocation of certain R and D related costs. We reported a GAAP net loss in the Q1 of $9,100,000 or a loss of $0.25 per basic and diluted shares using weighted average shares outstanding of 36,800,000 shares. This compares to a GAAP net loss of $13,200,000 or $0.42 per share on a basic and diluted basis in the Q1 of 2020. Speaker 300:06:42Note also that stock based compensation in the Q1 of 2024 was $4,700,000 resulting in a non GAAP loss of $4,400,000 or loss of $0.12 per basic and diluted shares. Please refer to the unaudited non GAAP reconciliation and disclosure included in today's press release for more information. We ended the Q1 of 2024 with cash, cash equivalents and short term investments of $125,400,000 compared to $127,200,000 on December 31, 2023. Cash used in the quarter for operations was offset by $8,000,000 of net cash received from stock option exercise. While we always have some cash generated from stock option exercises, more stock options were exercised than normal given the longer than usual open window and increased stock price. Speaker 300:07:46Approximately 16% of the stock option shares were exercised related to 10b5-one transactions. We are pleased to announce that in April of this year, we entered into a new lease and amended 2 existing at our campus in Aliso Vieques, California to extend the rental terms and options to ensure continued long term access to our facilities, acquire additional square footage to expand manufacturing and align the lease end dates for each of our 4 facilities. Moving on to our 2024 outlook. We are increasing our 2024 revenue, gross margin and operating expense guidance as follows: revenue of $132,000,000 to $137,000,000 up from previous guidance of $128,000,000 to $135,000,000 implying year over year growth of 48% to 54 percent and assuming continued sequential quarterly growth with normal seasonality in the Q3 due to summer vacations by both patients and doctors. Gross margin of 68% to 70%, up from our previous guidance of 65% to 67%. Speaker 300:09:07The new guidance is primarily driven by slightly higher than expected launch revenue contributions from the LAL and continued cost reductions to produce both our LAL and LDD along with continued pricing discipline for our LDD. Gross margin is likely to vary modestly during the year depending on the mix between LAL and LDD revenue in any one quarter. Operating expenses of $126,000,000 to $130,000,000 up from our previous guidance of 125 $1,000,000 to $128,000,000 and representing an implied increase of 21% to 25% over 2023. Our spending is focused on continuing efforts to leverage our commercial momentum, grow our educational efforts, develop our pipeline and expand internationally as regulatory approvals are obtained. Note that the operating expense estimate includes non cash stock based compensation expenses between $22,000,000 $25,000,000 With that, I'll turn the call back to Ron. Speaker 200:10:20Thank you, Shelly. RXStriTe's strong first quarter performance was followed by continued keen interest in our light adjustable lens technology at the recent annual meeting of the American Society of Cataract and Refractive Surgery, the 2nd largest U. S. Ophthalmic conference with over 5,000 attendees. The LAL was prominently featured in over 20 formal session presentations and its use in various clinical settings was a common topic in discussion forums. Speaker 200:10:48In one of these presentations, Doctor. Hunter Newsome reported on data collected from approximately 1,000 bilaterally implanted LAL subjects at nearly 100 practices. Approximately 90% of LAL patients attained binocular and corrected vision of 2020 or better, while over 90% were able to read J2 or 5.5 with both eyes. Doctor. Newsome also discussed the newest member of the RX Sight platform, the LAL plus presenting initial clinical data from practices that compared monocular distance corrected vision in over 200 LAL plus and 100 LALIs. Speaker 200:11:28With both group while both groups attained excellent distance vision, LAL Plus eyes exhibited more than a line improvement at NEAR. Both groups demonstrated excellent binocular vision with comparatively high rates of patients achieving 2020 or better. Doctors now have 2 LALs to choose from to achieve the most customized visual outcomes possible after cataract surgery. With the growing number of doctors and practices offering the LAL and LAL plus as well as increasing uptake by patients, we believe we are establishing a new standard for premium IOL offerings in the U. S. Speaker 200:12:06Based on this we are even more committed to reaching the full potential of RX Sight's unique adjustable technology and premium market opportunity. This includes expanding programs that enhance the clinical knowledge base of ophthalmologists, optometrists and other eye care professionals, thereby leading to a better informed and served public. We believe that when patients understand the full benefits of adjustability, they are more likely to choose an LAL over a fixed lens alternative and thereby optimize their vision in ways that are meaningful to them. Reaching our full potential also includes maintaining our commitment to rapid innovation, exemplified not only by the recently commercialized LAL plus but also by ongoing advancements to the LTD and LAL insertion technology. In addition, we continue to believe that the success of the LAL in both the U. Speaker 200:13:03S. And Canada can be replicated in most major markets and look forward to building successful international programs, particularly in Asia and Europe following regulatory approvals. Overall, we feel our strong first quarter results along with a very positive reception at this year's ASCRS further support our vision to make adjustability the standard for premium cataract and lens replacement surgery. With that, I'll ask the operator to open the call for questions. Operator00:13:33Thank Our first question is going to come from the line of Robbie Marcus with JPMorgan. Your line is open. Please go ahead. Speaker 400:13:57Great. Thanks for taking the question and congrats on a very nice quarter. 2 for me. Maybe first to start, volumes both in LAL and LTV were really strong in the quarter, but also so was pricing, if I do my math correct here. So maybe speak to what you're seeing in the field in terms of both adoption trends as you continue to place more than expected LPDs and good utilization, but also on the pricing side because it continues to be robust for both of them? Speaker 400:14:31Thanks. Speaker 300:14:32Okay. Why don't we start with Ron on the adoption trends and I'll follow-up on the ASPs. Speaker 200:14:39Yes. I think that as you noted, Ravi, the adoption trends continue to be very positive. We think that's a combination of the clinical outcomes with the LAL and now the LAL plus as well as the continued focus of our customer base on the premium IOL market and the potential to offset the revenue losses that they're seeing in their reimbursed areas. So overall, we anticipate continued strong adoption. And with that, we've been able to maintain good pricing discipline. Speaker 300:15:23Thank you, Ron. And as you recall and know, Robbie, in the Q3 when we newer LED, we increased our price by about 10%. And at that time and again at year end, we felt like the ASP would continue to hold through going into the into 2024. We certainly saw that in the Q1. The ASP was up about $3,000 as compared to the Q4. Speaker 300:15:55I don't think it's any particular item that increased that as much as mix of customers, how large they are, whether it was the 2nd or third LDD. And again, I think really good pricing discipline from our sales force bolstered by the fact that the results are excellent clinically and that we have more and more references for new doctors to go to. Speaker 400:16:28And great. Maybe as a follow-up, I wanted to talk on the competitive environment. By my math, you're closing in on 10% or so of the premium IOL market. I imagine that's a pretty disruptive mark as you look at your competitors. You're starting to take larger shares in not just some early adopters, but hitting more of the mass market appeal. Speaker 400:16:53What if anything are you seeing in terms of a response from your competitors? And how do you feel about your ability to continue to grow and take share as you're moving up the adoption curve? Thanks a lot. Speaker 200:17:06Well, I would say that as we've noted before, a significant percentage of LAL cases are coming from patients who otherwise would not have selected a premium IOL. And because of that, while some of our numbers are coming from other competitors in the premium space, a very large percentage are coming from either standard monofocal IOLs or toric IOLs, which tends to have less focus than the presbyopia correcting IOLs. So I think that that may not generate as much interest as the 10% number that you quoted might otherwise. Shelly, do you have anything you want to add? Speaker 300:18:01No, I don't think so. I think that people are taking notice of us. Certainly at ASCRS, we had you should talk about just kind of the booth traffic we had as well as the number of presentations we had in the booth and number of papers presented at ASCRS, I think that certainly has led to higher visibility for us. Speaker 200:18:22Absolutely. I think that we're there are more and more practices that are using the technology and getting excellent results and that word travels. But in terms of competitors, I think that they've been aware of our site for some time and we'll continue to follow it. Speaker 400:18:50Thanks a lot. Operator00:18:54Thank you. And one moment as we move on to our next question. And our next Speaker 500:19:10too many earnings calls. I just want to ask about a couple of things. So the installed base now is past 700. You've had a number of units in the field now for numerous years. As that installed base grows, I'm just wondering if there's any service revenue considerations we should be thinking about. Speaker 500:19:30I would imagine that can start to grow and maybe step up a little bit over the course of this year and into 2025? Speaker 300:19:40Yes, I think that's a good question, Ryan. We do have a line on our P and L for service and accessories and it's exactly what you talk about primarily service revenue. When we sell the LDD in accordance with GAAP, we carve out about $7,000 out of the LDD revenue and ASP. And that is amortized over a year period into the service line. And in addition, we find about 80% of our customers when their 1 year warranty expires take a service contract with us. Speaker 300:20:22And the other 20% tend to use time and material. And so we should continue to see that line grow as our installed base grows. Speaker 500:20:33Okay. And then, Shelly, margins were fantastic this quarter. Probably the most, I think, encouraging thing for long term investors. You're guiding a little below 70%. You did over 70% this quarter, just a hair. Speaker 500:20:49Why does that regress in the rest of the year below 70% because I mean you're just on this fantastic trajectory with more LAL sold to drive margins higher? Speaker 300:21:01Yes. I think that the primary driver for margin in any given quarter is the percent of LAL as a percent of revenue. In the Q1, it was quite high because typically you see lower LDD sales, capital sales, which we did. So I think that as you go through the next three quarters, we can see some different mix shifts as well. And of course, the LDD has a much lower gross margin than the LAL. Speaker 300:21:32And of course, as I mentioned, we did have a nice ASP bump in the Q1 as well. That might be usual or unusual as well. And we've been able to roll in lower material cost components more quickly than we have planned. But I think really the difference in any given quarter is going to be percent of LAL and percent of LDD. Speaker 500:21:59Thanks, Sean. Operator00:22:03Thank you. And one moment as we move on to our next question. Our next question is going to come from the line of Patrick Wood with Morgan Stanley. Your line is open. Please go ahead. Speaker 600:22:18Fantastic. Thank you for taking the questions. I guess the first one, I know you guys don't split the guide down, but just qualitatively for LDD placements, would you expect that kind of similar growth that we saw year on year in LDD placements in Q1, would you expect that to be a similar kind of growth trajectory through the year or a bit of an uptick in that and a drop in the LALs? I'm just trying to work out roughly the passing of those two things out even just qualitatively. Speaker 300:22:46Yes. Qualitatively, of course, the LAL grows much faster than the LDD and that's to be expected because our primary focus is not only just getting new customers, but getting new customers up faster as well as continuing to penetrate in our existing customers and get them to continue to grow. Penetrate in our existing customers and get them to continue to grow. So we have seen this shift between the LAL and LDD. The more installed base you get, you continue to get that. Speaker 300:23:20But in terms of breaking it out, I think kind of the general trends that we've been in for the last 3 or 4 years with LALs increasing much faster than LDD is indicative of what we want to do. Speaker 600:23:36Makes sense. Thank you. And then again qualitatively of the LDD placements that you've seen in the last 3, 4, 5 months outside of things, could you give us some sort of flavor how much of that is new accounts, existing accounts, buying a second system? Just how that's trended over time very recently would be helpful. Speaker 300:23:56Yes. It's predominantly new accounts. And what you see now a little bit is, I wouldn't call them repeat accounts in the following sense, because each sale is to an individual office, although the doctor or the underlying owners may be the same, right? Because you're still selling to the primary doctors in the practice that want to pick up the LAL. Some doctors have 2 or 3 separate offices. Speaker 300:24:24They start in 1, but then they might have different partners in their second and third offices. We see other people that are part of a larger network or buying group, but each of those are individual sales. But I would say the vast majority are brand new customers to us that we haven't had in our installed base. There always are some that buy that we know and they're really just expanding their footprint in their practices or in their network. Speaker 600:24:54Brilliant. Thank you so much. Operator00:24:58Thank you. And one moment as we move on to our next question. And our next question is going to come from the line of David Sexton with Needham and Company. Your line is open. Please go ahead. Speaker 700:25:13Hi. This is Joseph on for David. Just wanting to know how you guys are thinking about the competitive landscape with Odyssey in kind of an early launch and PanOptix Pro coming in the future? Speaker 200:25:32Well, thank you. I would categorize those competitive offerings as being part of the fixed lenses that are very similar to other fixed lenses in the marketplace. And so, while they may gain some attention at the end of the day, they're going to be compared against those more similar products than say the light adjustable lens. We expect that the market will continue to see new offerings, but that the LAL will continue to have a unique set of benefits for patients. Speaker 700:26:15Okay. Got you. And then maybe just a quick one. Can you give some color around balance sheet and how you guys are thinking about runway to free cash flow profitability? Speaker 300:26:28Yes. I think that what you have seen is reduced cash use in each quarter as we've increased both revenue and gross margin. What you did see in this guidance is that we had a pretty big increase in our guidance for gross margin, but we also did increase OpEx a bit. And I think the increase in gross margin business and opportunity, we let most of those dollars fall to the bottom line, but we will continue to continue this balance between growth and gross margin in percent and absolute dollars with continued investment in OpEx. But I think we've been very careful in this guidance balance both. Speaker 700:27:11Okay, sure. Thank you very much for taking our questions. Speaker 300:27:16Thank you. Operator00:27:17Thank you. And one moment for our next question. And our next question is going to come from the line of Tom Stefan with Stifel. Your line is open. Please go ahead. Speaker 800:27:31Great. Hi, everyone. Thanks for taking the questions. Maybe I'll start with LAL plus Could you maybe, I guess, qualitatively explain a bit how LAL plus was contemplated in 2024 guidance? Maybe in terms of the cadence of the rollout, I guess, in other words, does guidance assume kind of a methodical ramp of LAL plus Is it a fast ramp up, maybe somewhere in between? Speaker 800:27:56Any color there would be helpful. Speaker 300:28:00Okay. In terms of mix between LAL and LAL plus they're priced at the same amount at $1,000 per unit, right? And I think that for us and Ron can comment on this a little bit more, part of the pricing strategy, of course, is that we want the doctor and patient to pick the ideal lens for them, knowing that both are adjustable. And we think that the results that we had in the Q1 are part of just our original guidance or strategy for the year with this concept of having 2 LALs in our product family overall. I don't know if you would comment anything additional on that Ron? Speaker 200:28:49No, I mean, recall that the LAL plus was approved in 2023 and it was we had some initiated some initial Phase 4 clinical studies in the fall. So we certainly had that in our minds developing 2024 guidance. Speaker 800:29:12Got it. That's helpful. And then just my follow-up, I guess, on gross margin. Shelly, can you maybe level set us on where gross margin stand between your different products? Because when I run a low 30% gross margin on the LDD sales, I'm arriving at maybe 85% plus gross margin on the rest of the business. Speaker 800:29:34Are those fair places to be on both sides? And I guess I'm mainly curious about where LAL gross margin is tracking toward? Thanks. Speaker 300:29:44Yes. Well, we don't break out both of them. Certainly, we provided some information overall. As I've always stated, our gross margin on the LDD, the peak capital equipment, we try and get between 20% 30%. As you go back into early 2023, we were below the 20% or right at. Speaker 300:30:06Today, we are above the 30% and what I would call well above overall. And just this little $3,000 higher ASP in the first quarter contributed to about a 2 percentage point increase in gross margin for the LDD. So we're trending a bit higher than we would otherwise. And I contribute that to 1, a good pricing ASP discipline on the with our sales force, the value of the product as well as the fact that we were able to roll in some lower material costs a little bit earlier. On the LAL side, we don't comment, but we believe that, that product is in this kind of range, in the 80% something range and probably likely over a very long time to become a 90% product. Speaker 300:31:02But that's a kind of way out there. You've got to get your volumes up for that to happen. Speaker 800:31:09That's great. Thanks, Shelly. Thanks, Ron. Speaker 200:31:11Thank you. Operator00:31:13Thank you. And one moment for our next question. And our next question is going to come from the line of Larry Biegelsen with Wells Fargo. Your line is open. Please go ahead. Speaker 900:31:26Good afternoon. Thanks for taking the question. So on the Q4 call, you said you'd be talking more about international markets later this year. And today I heard spending is going towards OUS clearances. And Ron, you spoke more about Europe and Asia in your prepared remarks today than I heard on the Q4 call. Speaker 900:31:44So my question is, does this imply you're closer to other major market launches? And what are you including in the guidance for OUS markets in 2024? And I had one follow-up. Speaker 200:31:58Yes. I don't think anything has changed, Larry. We continue to focus primarily on the U. S. Market, but we pursue our regulatory filings outside the U. Speaker 200:32:11S. In attractive markets and we certainly will be updating as we make progress in those. Speaker 300:32:18And I think as far as revenue goes in 2024, obviously, we're in Canada that has grown nicely for us, has been a good market for us. I think in terms of the other markets, these regulatory cycles are getting pretty long. For instance, in Europe, we've seen it longer than we originally anticipated and continues to get pushed out. And if we have anything outside of Canada internationally, I would expect in 2024 it would be pretty minor. Speaker 900:32:50Got it. And one follow-up question for me. Utilization, it looks like it was about 9.2 LALs per LDD per month in the Q1 and it grew about 5% a year. It looks like it's a little slower than what we've seen in the last few quarters. Why is that and how are you guys thinking about utilization for the rest of this year? Speaker 900:33:13Thank you. Speaker 300:33:15So I think the difference between my numbers and your numbers is that we calculate the number of LALs per LDD by taking as the number of LALs over the number of LDDs installed at the beginning of the quarter, right? So you don't get a lot of normal LAL revenue out of new installs. But in fact, kind of if I look back, we were at 10.2 in the 4th quarter and we were at 10.1 in the first quarter, which I think is terrific overall. And kind of if you go back to, let's say, even Q4 of 2022, we're about 8.9%. So I think that we've gotten good sequential growth, although a little dip in the Q3 of 2023 for seasonality. Speaker 900:34:04All right. Thanks, Shelly. Operator00:34:07Thank you. And one moment for our next question. Our next question comes from the line of Steve Lichtman with Oppenheimer and Co. Your line is open. Please go ahead. Speaker 1000:34:20Thank you. Hi, Ron and Shelly, and congratulations. I wanted to ask, Ron, I think you mentioned targeting optometrists in terms of driving awareness. I think you talked to that at ASCRS as well. Can you talk a little bit about what that looks like in the field in terms of how you approach that and some of the potential benefits in terms of referrals and things like that from targeting that group? Speaker 1000:34:49Thanks. Speaker 200:34:52Yes. So optometry is obviously a very significant part of eye care, particularly in the U. S. And are integrally involved with cataract surgery, both in terms of counseling of patients preoperatively as well as helping to manage patients through the course of their post op periods. And that can be either independent or separate optometric practices that work in conjunction with ophthalmic offices or it can be optometrists within ophthalmic practices. Speaker 200:35:33And we obviously, for those practices that have our technology, many of them have optometrists and we work very closely with them. Many of them have become very experienced and knowledgeable about our technology. They are just as academically minded as the ophthalmologists and like to present at their respective meetings and we see more of that. We certainly want to support that. And then through our ophthalmic practices, we certainly want to support their educational events with optometrists in their community as well. Speaker 200:36:22And that's something that's important in driving awareness of the technology, which is very attractive just fundamentally to optometrists generally because it fits with their overall ethos of quality of vision. Speaker 1000:36:41Great. And then just as a quick follow-up, are you adding to the sales force on the LDD side this year? And if so, how much are you increasing that? Speaker 300:36:52Yes. I think that if we look at our planned head count adds, they're primarily in our clinical applications and LA Alpha to work closely with the LDD. We may add a few on LDD, but certainly not at the rate that we add to those 2 other groups. Speaker 1000:37:11Got it. Great. Thank you. Thank you, Steve. Speaker 300:37:14Thank you, Steve. Operator00:37:16Thank you. And I would now like to hand the conference back to CEO, Ron Kurtzwiss for closing remarks. Speaker 200:37:23Well, thank you all for your time and attention today. We appreciate your interest in RX Sight and look forward to updating you on our progress in future quarters. Goodbye. Operator00:37:33This concludes today's conference call. Thank you for participating. You may now disconnect.Read morePowered by