NASDAQ:APLS Apellis Pharmaceuticals Q1 2024 Earnings Report $18.20 +0.04 (+0.22%) Closing price 04/17/2025 04:00 PM EasternExtended Trading$18.20 0.00 (-0.03%) As of 04/17/2025 04:32 PM Eastern Extended trading is trading that happens on electronic markets outside of regular trading hours. This is a fair market value extended hours price provided by Polygon.io. Learn more. Earnings HistoryForecast Apellis Pharmaceuticals EPS ResultsActual EPS-$0.54Consensus EPS -$0.54Beat/MissMet ExpectationsOne Year Ago EPS-$1.56Apellis Pharmaceuticals Revenue ResultsActual Revenue$172.33 millionExpected Revenue$163.37 millionBeat/MissBeat by +$8.96 millionYoY Revenue Growth+284.30%Apellis Pharmaceuticals Announcement DetailsQuarterQ1 2024Date5/7/2024TimeBefore Market OpensConference Call DateTuesday, May 7, 2024Conference Call Time8:30AM ETUpcoming EarningsApellis Pharmaceuticals' Q1 2025 earnings is scheduled for Tuesday, May 6, 2025, with a conference call scheduled at 8:30 AM ET. Check back for transcripts, audio, and key financial metrics as they become available.Q1 2025 Earnings ReportConference Call ResourcesConference Call AudioConference Call TranscriptSlide DeckPress Release (8-K)Quarterly Report (10-Q)Earnings HistoryCompany ProfileSlide DeckFull Screen Slide DeckPowered by Apellis Pharmaceuticals Q1 2024 Earnings Call TranscriptProvided by QuartrMay 7, 2024 ShareLink copied to clipboard.There are 20 speakers on the call. Operator00:00:00Good morning, ladies and gentlemen. Thank you for standing by, and welcome to the Apellis Pharmaceuticals First Quarter 2024 Earnings Conference Call. At this time, all participants are in a listen only mode. After the speakers' presentation, there will be a question and answer session. Please be advised, today's call is being recorded. Operator00:00:32I will now turn the call over to your speaker host, Meredith Kaya, Senior Vice President, Investor Relations and Strategic Finance. Please go ahead. Speaker 100:00:42Good morning, and thank you for joining us to discuss Apellis' Q1 2024 Financial Results. With me on the call are Co Founder and Chief Executive Officer, Doctor. Cedric Francois Chief Operating Officer, Adam Townsend Chief Medical Officer, Doctor. Caroline Baumel and Chief Financial Officer, Tim Sullivan. Before we begin, let me point out that we will be making forward looking statements that are based on our current expectations and beliefs. Speaker 100:01:07These statements are subject to certain risks and uncertainties, and actual results may differ materially. I encourage you to consult the risk factors discussed in our SEC filings for additional detail. Now, I'll turn the call over to Cedric. Speaker 200:01:20Thank you, Meredith, and thank you all for joining us this morning. 2024 is off to a strong start. SYFOVRI continues to deliver robust growth in the Q1 driven by an acceleration in demand resulting in $137,000,000 in net sales, up 20% compared to Q4. Empaveri is also making a difference for patients with PNH, generating $26,000,000 in revenue for the quarter, and we have a number of exciting opportunities to potentially expand EMPAVEDI into new indications. We are one of the rare companies in our industry to have 2 drugs approved in just 3 years, a testament to the strength of our science and our incredible team. Speaker 200:02:08As a result, Aperis is now well positioned strategically, operationally and financially to deliver significant long term value to our shareholders. SYFYVI is key to delivering this long term value and the growth in Q1 underscores the strong demand we continue to see from both physicians and patients. Through March, eye care professionals administered 250,000 SYFOVRI injections. And in the 1st 12 months of launch, SYFOVRI generated over $400,000,000 in sales, substantially exceeding both our and Wall Street's expectations. This is extraordinary performance for any new product launch. Speaker 200:02:53SYFOVRI's leadership in the market is driven by 3 important factors. First, treatment with Cyfobri results in increasing effects over time with up to 42 percent slowing of GA progression in year 3 of Gale, building on the meaningful effect demonstrated in Derby and Oaks. 2nd, SYFOVRI has a well documented safety profile based on extensive experience both clinically and in the real world. And 3rd, SYFOVRI offers flexible dosing as described in our label, which means that patients can benefit from SYFOVRI's impressive clinical profile in as few as 6 doses per year. As the market leader, we are only getting started. Speaker 200:03:41Our performance to date reaffirms our belief that SYFYVI has the potential to become a multi $1,000,000,000 product in the U. S. Alone. We are also working to bring SYFYVI to patients worldwide. We recently announced that the European Medicines Agency reset the review of the SYFY reapplication back to day 180 of our initial assessment, which is the last phase of that procedure. Speaker 200:04:07This decision follows a judgment made by the Court of Justice in the EU regarding the competing interests of experts. The decision for SYFOVRI is strictly procedural and not related to the SYFOVRI application. The remainder of our review is expected to be led by the original rapporteur. We are working closely with the CHMP and EMEA on next steps with the upcoming CHMP opinion anticipated no later than July. Shifting to Empaveri. Speaker 200:04:41Since its launch in 2021, Empaveri has transformed the standard of care for patients with PNH. Empaveri was the 1st available treatment proven to effectively control both intravascular and extravascular hemolysis, 2 hallmarks of PNH, while also significantly improving anemia and protecting the majority of patients from transfusions over the long term. We continue to serve PNH patients who may benefit from Empavity and we believe it has the potential to become a best in class treatment option for additional high unmet need areas. Our biggest near term opportunity is in C3 gs and ICMPGM, 2 rare and devastating kidney diseases that often start in adolescence. There are currently no approved treatments for these diseases, which often leads to kidney failure or lifelong dialysis. Speaker 200:05:42Our Phase 2 NOBLE data showed unprecedented effects on disease activity, and reductions by 1 or more magnitudes of intensity in 80% of treated patients. We plan to share the 52 week data from the NOBLE study at the European Renal Association meeting later this month, and we look forward to sharing the top line data from our Phase 3 VALION study in mid-twenty 24. Separately, I'm sure many of you saw the recent news out of New York University regarding the first ever combined mechanical heart pump and big kidney transplant. This was a historic event and we are thrilled that Empavady played a role making this xenotransplant surgery a success by helping to protect the kidney from potential rejection. Empaveri was also involved in the xenotransplant surgery performed at Mass General Hospital in March by helping to stabilize the transplanted kidney when it showed signs of early rejection. Speaker 200:06:53And while the research is early and we have a lot to learn still, we are encouraged by the potential of Empaveri in xenotransplantation. Overall, I am thrilled with the progress we have made so far in 20 24. With 2 commercial products and an emerging pipeline, which we are excited to share more about later this year, we remain steadfast in our vision to develop life changing medicines for people living with some of the most challenging diseases. And with that, I will now turn it over to Adam to discuss our commercial activities. Speaker 300:07:30Thanks, Cedric, and good morning, everyone. I will jump right in with XIFAVI. As Cedric shared, XIFAVI sales over the past 12 months have been strong. Initially, our success was largely driven by fast uptake from early adopters. More recently, we've seen both new patient demand and an increasing prescriber base driving sales. Speaker 300:07:55While we continue to focus on the importance of patients with GA getting the treatment they need. Further, we are investing in direct to consumer marketing initiatives to increase patient O and M and education about Xyphovary and GA. Suffice to say that our efforts are paying off. In the Q1, we distributed 72,000 commercial doses and 5,000 samples. The 1st 3 months of this year were the 3 largest volume months since launched through Q1. Speaker 300:08:38Growth rates varied monthly with a slight decline in February as compared to January and then a reacceleration in March resulting in some of the largest demand weeks to date and our biggest month of the quarter. Additionally, in Q1, we continue to see a double digit number of new sites come on board each week, with over 2,000 sites of care now using cytovery across a broad range of practice types. We are thrilled by the continued growth we have seen in the 2nd quarter so far across both new and existing patients. It has been an incredible launch. And now that we are in its 2nd year, we will be going back to sharing key metrics with you as of quarter end. Speaker 300:09:27Regarding vasculitis, the rate remains rare at approximately 1 in 10,000 injections. What we have learned is that this appears to be a first injection phenomenon, with the rate following a first injection estimated at about 1 in 4,000. Given the extensive real world experience with XIFAVI to date, retina specialists are more confident that these rates are rare and stable. And we are seeing many physicians who had either paused or decreased their use now start to use Xiphobri again or use it in more of their patients. Shifting gears to longer term dynamics, Xyphobia remains the number one chosen treatment for GA, with approximately 85% of the treated market. Speaker 300:10:19We are confident that it will remain the market leader due to its strong efficacy, well documented safety profile, flexible dosing and the robustness of our overall data set. Even more, we are only in the early stages of a large and growing market. The estimated prevalence of GA patients is up to 1,500,000 in the United States. Today, based on a recent claims analysis, patients treated are estimated to make up 12% of the market as defined only by those patients who have been diagnosed and are managed by an ECP. However, many G8 patients are not yet diagnosed or have not been referred to a specialist. Speaker 300:11:09In fact, only a small portion of newly diagnosed patients currently being treated with XIFAVI are referrals. This means there continues to be a huge opportunity for XIFABRI as the vast majority of GA patients have not yet been treated. Now that we are in year 2, we are executing the next stage of our commercial strategy. Remember, we are launching a transformative medicine for a disease that has never had a treatment available. So we have learned a lot about what drives both physicians and patients. Speaker 300:11:45Let me start with physicians. We plan to further increase our reach within existing physician targets as well as expand our use amongst those who have not used XIFAVA yet. We are refining our messaging as we better understand what is resonating. At launch, our messaging initially focused on efficacy, but then shifted to safety last summer. Now we have pivoted back to leading with efficacy, highlighting Speaker 200:12:19the Speaker 300:12:24functional benefits following SYFOGRI treatment. We are also broadening our reach to provide disease state education to other referring eye care providers who see tens of thousands of GA patients. As the market leader, we are educating those doctors on the importance of GA treatment so that patients see a specialist who can then decide the right treatment approach. Moving to patients, another key learning over the past year is how motivated and actively engaged patients are in their treatment decisions. As you may have seen in our unbranded DTC campaign, our initial message was focused on increasing awareness of GA and encouraging patients to see their eye care professional. Speaker 300:13:12These efforts have netted very positive results, including thousands of new GA diagnosis and a significant number of patients starting Xyphobre treatment. We recently launched a branded DTC campaign with the focus now on encouraging patients to talk to their physicians about GA treatment with XIFAVI. Our goal for this campaign is to increase awareness, access many more patients and accelerate the speed to diagnosis and treatment of GA. Now let me shift to Empelli for PNH. Revenues in the quarter were $26,000,000 Compliance rates remain incredibly high at 97% and the product also continues to have a compelling safety profile. Speaker 300:14:02With over 1600 patient years of systemic pegcetagoplan exposure, there have still been 0 cases of meningococcal infection and very low rates of thrombosis. But obviously, we are now seeing heightened competition. With a new entrant in the market, we anticipate pressure on Empereville sales, at least for the next 6 to 12 months. Although we have a strong foothold, I want to be realistic that demand is expected to be flat in the medium term. We still expect to see new patients starting on treatment, but we also expect to see some patients switching to an oral. Speaker 300:14:45The empovelli team is laser focused on emphasizing the real world profile of empovelli with physicians, including its 3 year efficacy data and strong safety profile. We have confidence that this profile will drive some physicians and patients to return to Empower Valley over time. While still very early, we've already seen a few instances of this. Finally, we are particularly excited about the opportunity to potentially expand Empelli into C3g and primary ICMPGM. These are 2 devastating diseases with tremendous unmet need and a patient population that is 3 times bigger than PNH. Speaker 300:15:32If approved, we will be able to leverage much of our existing infrastructure, such as utilization of our field based teams to reach nephrologists and deliver empervally to patients and physicians. Caroline will give more detail on the opportunity we have for these diseases. Caroline? Speaker 100:15:53Thanks, Adam, and good morning, everyone. Yes, we are really looking forward to the top line data from our Phase 3 XION study in C3 gs and ICMPGM, which we expect mid-twenty 24. I'm going to focus my remarks today on this upcoming development milestone, providing some background on the patient population as well as on the study. C3g and ICMPGN are debilitating kidney diseases caused by uncontrolled complement activation and breakdown of C3. Symptoms include protein and blood in the urine, swelling, fatigue and high blood pressure. Speaker 100:16:37These diseases are estimated to affect 5,000 people in the United States and up to 8,000 in Europe, with the first diagnosis typically occurring in adolescence. Within 5 to 10 years of diagnosis, approximately 50% of people living with C3g and ICMPGN ultimately suffer from kidney failure, resulting in either kidney transplant or lifelong dialysis, both of which are highly burdensome and life threatening to the patient. However, neither are curative and there are no approved therapies for these diseases. The incidence of disease recurrence is high and up to 50% of patients lose their kidney transplant due to the disease recurrence. Some patients may have multiple transplants in their life time depending on their age at the first diagnosis. Speaker 100:17:38The VALION study enrolled 124 patients with either C3 gs or primary ICMPGN in a randomized placebo controlled double blinded multicenter study designed to evaluate pegzetacopalan efficacy and safety. It is the only Phase 3 study to include a broad population inclusive of adolescent and adult patients with native and post transplant forms of both diseases. Study participants were randomized 1 to 1 to receive pegzidocoplin or placebo twice weekly for 26 weeks. Following this 26 week period, patients moved to a 26 week open label phase in which all patients received pegcetacopalan. The PRIMAR endpoint is a log transformed ratio of urine protein to creatinine ratio or uPCR, a key marker of disease progression in all patients at week 26 compared to baseline. Speaker 100:18:48Physicians consider a statistically significant response to the primary endpoint as clinically meaningful in this disease. Key secondary endpoints include additional measures on both new PCR and on eGFR. We are very excited about the potential opportunity that pegsidocoplin may have meetings over the past few months. The retina community has been highly engaged with the Apellis team, especially regarding our latest data from the GAIL study, which demonstrated up to 42% slowing of GA growth in year 3 in non synchovial patients compared to projected sham. These increasing effects had never been shown before in any GA study. Speaker 100:19:49Finally, before I hand it over to Tim, I want to extend a warm welcome to Doctor. Phil Ferron, who joins us as our Chief Medical Retina Advisor. I have known Phil for a long time, having worked on multiple clinical trials and other programs together throughout our careers. Phil is a leading figure within the medical community with deep expertise in patient care and retina research. He is also a past President of the ASRS and has been on its board for 18 years. Speaker 100:20:21Given Phil's in-depth experience with Cyfobri and overall retina experience, he is uniquely positioned to help us continue to bring Cyfobri to GA patients and develop our retina pipeline. I know I speak for all of us at Apellis when I say we are thrilled to have him on board. Now I will turn the call over to Tim for a review of the financials. Tim? Speaker 400:20:47Thank you, Caroline. I will provide a brief overview of our financials and you can find additional details in the press release that we issued earlier this morning. Total revenue for the Q1 2024 was $172,300,000 including $137,500,000 in SYFOVRI and $25,600,000 in Empival U. S. Net product revenue. Speaker 400:21:08This compares with $44,800,000 in total revenue in the Q1 of 2023. Turning to the rest of the P and L. For the Q1, cost of sales was $20,200,000 R and D expenses were $84,700,000 The reason R and D expenses are slightly higher in Q1 versus Q4 is because there was a $15,000,000 one time non cash expense in Q1 related to the discontinuation of CAD. SG and A expenses were $129,500,000 and we reported a net loss of $66,400,000 dollars While R and D and SG and A may fluctuate on a quarterly basis, we continue to expect our total operating expenses for the full year 2024 to be less than our total expenses in 2023. Turning to our balance sheet. Speaker 400:21:54As of March 31, 2020 4, we had $326,000,000 in cash and cash equivalents. As Cedric mentioned, we are in a strong position financially. With our existing cash combined with projected revenues, we continue to believe that we have sufficient cash to fund our operations for the foreseeable future. I will now hand the call back over to Cedric for closing remarks. Cedric? Speaker 200:22:18Thanks, Tim. We are highly encouraged by the start of 2024 and excited for the value driving milestones on the horizon. I want to emphasize our determination to be the leader in complement medicine. The progress across our pipeline exemplified by, but not limited to, SYFOVRI and AMPAVETI is presenting us with opportunities to create meaningful therapies and substantial value for shareholders. We appreciate your continued support. Speaker 200:22:47We truly believe that the best is yet to come. Let us now open the call for questions. Operator? Operator00:23:23Our first question comes from Umer Raffat with Evercore ISI. Your line is now open. Speaker 200:23:29Hi, guys. Thanks for taking the question. Speaker 500:23:30It's actually John Miller on for Umer here. I would love to start with the competitive dynamics in GA. Obviously, we heard recently from your recently launched competitor that they expect to see 25% market share already and go into 40% by the end of the year. That doesn't jive with what you just told us, saying you have 85% market share. So maybe you could put into context some of the differences, how we square that circle with the market share that they reported versus you reported? Speaker 500:24:02And maybe a little bit about how you expect competitive dynamics in GA to evolve over the course of the year as a new competitor launches? Speaker 200:24:13Thank you, John. Great to hear you. Adam? Speaker 300:24:16Thanks, John. It's Adam. So yes, firstly, we are thrilled with the 20% growth we saw in Q1 versus Q4. So obviously, there are many ways to estimate market share. And what we do here is that we look at market share as patients treated with GA. Speaker 300:24:35We think it's the most robust way of measuring market share. You then know that the drug is actually being used within a patient. A standard calculates market share based off of vials distributed. So again, patients is the number one choice for us when it comes to market share. It means you can rule out things like vials at wholesalers, vials at in hospital fridges, doctors fridges. Speaker 300:25:01And also it accounts for frequency of administration, right? We are tend to be a very much strong every other month drug. And by looking at patients, you can be much more specific than that. So with the number one chosen GAA therapy, I continue to see that progressing as we progress through the year. This is a massive market. Speaker 300:25:22We've chosen 1st across new patients and continued physicians' choice. We have the potential to be a multibillion dollar product in the U. S. And I expect that to continue as we push to execute our plans for the rest of the year. Speaker 500:25:39Thanks. That makes a ton of sense. And I guess as we think about moving beyond that U. S. Market, which as you say is very robust, I have a question about the EU process that now seems to have been restarted or set back or gone back to the original repertoires. Speaker 500:25:58Can you just bottom line for us, is that good news or bad news? Does this increase the likelihood or decrease the likelihood of EU actually getting approved at some point? Speaker 200:26:09Thank you, John. In terms of the odds of approval, quite frankly, we think nothing has changed. This is a procedural delay that was caused by a loss that had nothing to do with us between the EU and another company. So we're going to have to wait a little bit longer, but we think that the odds of the probability stay the same. All right. Speaker 200:26:36Thanks very much. Thank you. Operator00:26:38Thank you. One moment for our next question. Our next question comes from Azeem Ahmad with Bank of America Securities. Your line is now open. Speaker 600:26:50Hi, guys. Good morning and thanks for taking my question. I just wanted to get a sense about how you're seeing the rate you saw in 1Q? We know that you had impacted several insurances needing to be reset. But now that that's largely or completely behind you, can you talk about the general rate of growth and whether or not the rate of growth is starting to flat line or 1Q is going to be a seasonal effect going forward? Speaker 600:27:21Thanks. Speaker 200:27:23Thank you so much, Thad. And you were breaking up a little bit. I think your question was whether the rate of growth continues to be in line with what it was before for Stifel, right? Speaker 600:27:34Yes. With the exception of 1Q being impacted with the insurance resub. Speaker 300:27:40Okay. Yes, excellent. Thank you. Adam? Thanks, Tazeen. Speaker 300:27:43So yes, for us to see 20% quarterly growth 1 year into the launch, I think it's an incredible indicator for long term success. Also remember that last year, October to December, had a better understanding of our efficacy profile with the 3 year GALE data in November. And we're going to continue to push that for the remainder of the year. This large market we believe is driven by efficacy. We're incredibly well positioned for strong future growth, both in the near term and the long term. Speaker 300:28:15And we continue to see that strong growth into Q2, and we're excited for our next earnings call where we can share a lot more details about that. Speaker 600:28:26Okay. Thank you. Operator00:28:28Thank you. One moment for our next question. Our next question comes from Anupam Rama with JPMorgan. Your line is open. Speaker 700:28:42Hey, guys. This is Priyanka on for Anupam. And just building up a little bit on the first question, how are you thinking about the dynamics around the November regulatory action for ISERVAY? And what various scenarios could do to market share? Thanks. Speaker 200:28:58Thank you so much for that question. We do not want to comment on our competitor. You would have to ask them about that. But of course, these are all elements that will factor into where ultimately the landscape ends. I think what really stands out here is that this market is absolutely enormous, unfortunately because there are so many patients and we have only begun to scratch the surface. Speaker 700:29:23Got you. Thanks so much. Speaker 200:29:26Thank you. Operator00:29:27Thank you. One moment for our next question. Our next question comes from Salveen Richter with Goldman Sachs. Your line is now open. Speaker 800:29:41Good morning. Thanks for taking my question. Could you just speak to the magnitude of seasonality impact in the Q1? And then regarding your launch here, maybe help us understand in the Q1, what new prescribers and new patients look like in terms of uptake here and Speaker 100:30:04as well as follow-up doses? Thank you. Speaker 200:30:08Thank you, Salveen. Great to hear you, Adam. Speaker 300:30:11Thanks, Salveen. So yes, March was the strongest month for our Q1. So February dipped a little bit. And as you know, right, this is the first time we learned about seasonality with CyFovary with all of the work that we did for insurance recertifications, plus the impact of storms. Agnostic to that, etcetera, and that seasonality, we still saw great strong growth. Speaker 300:30:36So and we're seeing that growth continue into Q2. As Cedric has said earlier in the previous question, this is an incredibly big market of which we think the profile of our drug with a strong efficacy, well documented safety, flexible dosing the unmatched data that backs all of that up is going to be incredibly strong for us moving forward. Q2, the team is laser focused on executing our plan and we are the number one picked GA treatment. Operator00:31:16And our next question comes from Yigal Nochomovitz with Citigroup. Your line is now open. Speaker 900:31:24Guys, thank you so much for taking the questions. I had a few, Adam, on some of the commercial dynamics. Could you comment at all on switching rates either from Eizervase, Cyfovirate or vice versa? And then you mentioned there are about 2,000 sites of care that you've already seen uptake. Could you comment what percent of those are exclusively stocking cyfovary? Speaker 900:31:43Or is there a fraction that's stocking both drugs? And is there a fraction that's just stocking IZURVEY? And then you mentioned that the rate following the first injection on ROV was 1 out of 4,000. I'm not sure if I misheard that. Can you just comment, was it 1 out of 4,000 or a different number? Speaker 900:32:00I would have thought it would have been lower if it was the first injection phenomenon with the rate in 0.01? Thanks. Speaker 300:32:08Yes, Yigal. So switching, so again, we have the strong majority of new patients starts, They choose, SYFOBRI. No surprise, right? Isovay's J code is now into action. We'll see some fluctuations on new starts as we did with RJ Code. Speaker 300:32:29But the strong majority of new starts choose XIFA. And I think that's a very positive metric moving forward. Yes, we have over 2,000 sites of care. And my very nerdy metric continues that we get double digit new sites starting Cyclovary every week and that has been the same since the beginning of the launch. That's a very strong indicator of demand. Speaker 300:32:52Some sites share both drugs. There are certain sites that are Xiphobri only sites, predominantly cyfovary. They tend to choose cyfovary for the efficacy of the drug and the data sets that supports that efficacy. There are 1 or 2 sites that during vasculitis did switch to Isovay. But we've also started to see those sites come back. Speaker 300:33:16And we've started to see physicians who did pause during last year's vasculitis conversation have started to come back too. So the trends are very positive for what is going to be a very large opportunity in GA. GA. You also had a question on vasculitis rate. Speaker 200:33:40Yes. Sorry, Yigal. Hi, this is Cedric. So the rate has been stable since the very beginning at about 1 in 10000. And this is predominantly a first injection phenomenon, where the odds are about 1 in 4000, which is in the same range of what you would find, for example, infectious endophthalmitis. Speaker 200:33:59But it is really that first injection. So if you are a physician with a patient, that is a conversation that you can have. After that, we believe that the very low vasculitis rate is in line with what you would find for Enteb Speaker 900:34:13I understand what you're saying. I thought you said the 1 in 4,000 was for the second and subsequent, but it's for the first. I get you. Thank you. Speaker 200:34:22Only the first injection. Correct. Operator00:34:24Right. Yes. Thank you. One moment for our next question. And our next question comes from Steve Seedhouse with Raymond James. Operator00:34:36Your line is now open. Speaker 500:34:39Hi, thank you. Speaker 400:34:39This is Nick on for Steve. We just wanted to clarify if you're able to submit new data, whether it's long term deal data, functional analyses or real world safety data as part of the updated review process in Europe? Thank you. Speaker 200:34:55Thank you so much, Steve. So we are allowed to make changes and submit new data as part of the first review. It is in the appeals process that that is not allowed. Speaker 400:35:11Thank you. And one quick follow-up, are you able to comment on how many patients have been treated with Xyphovir to date? Speaker 200:35:19That is not a number that we provide. Okay. Thank you. Operator00:35:25Thank you. Thank you. One moment for our next question. Our next question comes from Colleen Cusi with Baird. Your line is now open. Speaker 1000:35:38Great. Good morning. Thanks for taking our questions. Adam, you commented on a slight dip in February. Is that a factor of every 8 week dosing or kind of what do you think was driving that slight dip? Speaker 1000:35:49And then can you just comment on inventory in the quarter? I think our math is showing there's a slight drawdown in the quarter, but could you just comment, please? Speaker 300:35:57Hey, Colleen. Yes. So yes, I mean, obviously, February was a shorter month. And I think there's always a little bit of seasonality in January, February March that we've seen. But we picked straight back up in March and continue to see growth into Q2. Speaker 300:36:14Now, we previously announced mid February 40,000 doses and just add a little bit of context to your question, that was within the 1st 7 weeks of a 13 week quarter. We then saw an additional 37,000 doses distributed across the remaining 6 weeks. So, that just shows you a little bit about the timing of those type of announcements and the seasonality within. What was the second part of your question? Just I didn't catch it. Speaker 200:36:42Drawdown of inventory. Speaker 300:36:47Yes. Oh, drawdown of inventory, we did see certain wholesalers drawdown inventory and we that's again normal as part of the seasonality of the month. Speaker 1000:36:59Great. Thank you. Operator00:37:01Thank you. One moment for our next question. Our next question comes from Philip Nadeau with TD Cowen. Your line is now open. Speaker 1100:37:18Good morning. Thanks for taking our questions. One from us and a follow-up. On the future trends, there seems to be a lot of focus among investors on what IsoRay is going to do to your growth in future quarters. I know you've expressed confidence that you'll continue to grow given the size of the market. Speaker 1100:37:34I think people are debating whether current consensus is achievable. It looks like for Q2 and Q3 consensus calls for 11% to 12% growth quarter over quarter in both those quarters. It seems like a meaningful deceleration thus far in Q2? Thank you so much, Phil. Adam? Speaker 1100:37:54Yes. I think thus far in Q2? Speaker 200:37:58Thank you so much, Phil. Adam? Speaker 300:38:00Yes. Thanks, Phil. So 20% growth Q1 versus Q4, I think, is a very positive thing. And we continue to seeing growth into Q2, strong growth. We don't comment on what that growth will look like for the Q4. Speaker 300:38:15We're excited to be able to represent that at our next earnings call. Speaker 1100:38:20That's fair enough. And then just one follow-up on the EU. Should you get a negative CHMP opinion in July? Do you still now have the appeals process available to you? Could you go down the same road that you thought you were going to go down back in January once this review is over? Speaker 200:38:38Thank you, Phil. Yes, we can. So as I mentioned before, the process will be longer, but we believe that the other approvability stay the same. Speaker 1100:38:47Perfect. Thanks for taking our questions. Operator00:38:49Thank you. Thank you. One moment for our next question. And our next question comes from Akash Tewari with Jefferies. Your line is now open. Speaker 1200:39:02Hello, good morning. This is Ivy on for Akash. We have a couple of quick ones on safari. So first is on safety. What's your current hypothesis on the causes behind the cases? Speaker 1200:39:13Have you done any testing on PAC antibodies? And then on the competitive landscape, if there's no more retinal vasculitis cases for either way over the next two quarters, how would your internal market share projections shift? And finally, it's for your branded DTC campaign. What's the ROI you're targeting at? And also like what's the spend associated with this campaign for this year? Speaker 1200:39:38Thanks. Speaker 200:39:40Thank you so much and wonderful to hear you. So first of all, on the hypothesis, again, as we've discussed before, it is pretty remarkable that there is this first injection phenomenon, right, from an immunological perspective. Our leading hypothesis, as you correctly mentioned, is indeed around polyethylene glycol. That is the work that we will continue to do to further explore. Now for our competitor, we will see where things land. Speaker 200:40:07I think what is really important for us is that the rates of vasculitis is extremely low and stays extremely low is a first injection phenomenon. And the efficacy is something that, of course, really stands out for SYFOVRI versus our competitor, which at the end of the day, we think will be the most important. All of this stands in the background, of course, of this enormous market that geographic atrophy represents because of the enormous amount of patients that are unfortunately affected by this disease. So as it relates to the PTC campaign, let me hand it over to Adam. Speaker 300:40:43Yes, Ivy, and I'll just add on to what Cedric said, right. Our market leadership is driven by our strong efficacy, well documented safety, flexible dosing and the unmatched data set that holds all of that up. So that's, I think, incredibly important for the rest of the year. And I think people choose GA drugs for their incredibly strong efficacy. As to DTC, so our DTC campaign is actually live now on TV. Speaker 300:41:11So our new campaigns are streaming. We're investing in this campaign because we think it has an incredibly strong positive return on investment. It will drive more patients into retina specialist offices and those patients will see our ad and ask for Xyfobri. And then the 4 pillars of what we think builds up a great GA drug come into play there where the physician will have that conversation with those patients and hopefully put those patients on. So as Cedric said, this is a large market and all of our DTC activities will push more cytovery patients into the market. Speaker 1200:41:50Thanks. Operator00:41:51Thank you. One moment for our next question. Our next question comes from Ellie Merle with UBS. Your line is now open. Speaker 1300:42:04Hey guys, thanks for taking the question. Just one quickly on expenses and profitability. Just given you expect expenses to be less in 2024 versus 2023 and with SYFOBRII growing, how are you thinking about when you might reach profitability? And what are the potential swing factors there? And then just a second one on your pricing strategy. Speaker 1300:42:25What are your expectations for gross to net in the second quarter? And do you expect any uptick in gross to net or in your use of samplings in the second quarter? And just walk us through how you're thinking about your pricing and contract and strategy? Speaker 200:42:39Thanks. Thank you, Ellie. Great to Speaker 400:42:41hear you. Tim? Sure. Thanks, Ellie. So the good news is we're in a very strong financial position and we've previously said that our cash and our projected revenues are sufficient to fund our operations for the foreseeable future. Speaker 400:42:54From an expense perspective, on a quarterly basis, our Q4 2023 expenses were lower than our were lower than our Q3 2023 expenses by about 7%. And then taking into account the one time charge for the cold agglutinin disease this quarter, they would have been down further 5% or so. So we have seen that decrease in operating expenses and we continue to believe that our expenses will be lower in 2024 than 2023. On the top line, you can see that we're also growing nicely and that combination, we've said, will obviously allow us to fund our operations, but we don't actually guide on when we would become profitable. Operator00:43:40Thank you. One moment for our next question. And our next question comes from Annabel Samimy with Stifel. Your line is now open. Speaker 1400:43:53Hi, all. Thanks for taking my question. I want to ask about the referrals from ophthalmologists. Has that just started or retinal specialists still working with their own patients? And with this DTC campaign, can the retinal specialist handle the number of the volume of referrals that are going to be coming in, if the referrals have just started? Speaker 1400:44:19And then on the competitive landscape, obviously, ISAVE has been out for a little bit now. Now they have a J code. But I mean, instead of thinking about it as a competitive headwind, do you actually think that having a competitor out there is creating more of a tailwind for the whole entire space. And maybe you can speak to that and what dynamics you're seeing there. Thanks. Speaker 200:44:42Thank you so much, Annabel. I'll hand it over to Adam. Speaker 300:44:45Yes. Thanks, Annabel. So at the moment, referrals are quite lower. And as you said, right, this is a very large market. So the vast majority of retina physicians are treating patients that they already had a relationship with or were on their books, so to speak. Speaker 300:45:02And we believe the DTC campaign will start to push those patients that they don't have and those referrals from ophthalmologists and optometrists in to get treatment. So that's the core aspects of our DTC. The feedback we hear from retinal physicians is that they have the capability of accepting many, many more patients. And I don't think it's remotely a problem for them to treat those new additional patients. And that's been consistent feedback we've got as we progress through the launch. Speaker 300:45:32Now competition is healthy and competition does grow an incredibly large market. And I think the team that we have in the field is laser focused on executing because Speaker 500:45:42we believe that we Speaker 300:45:42have the strongest product profile out there. Market growth driven by competition is a great tailwind for us. And I think we're primed and have the best drive to be able to capitalize upon. Speaker 100:46:02Great. Thanks. Operator00:46:03Thank you. One moment for our next question. Our next question comes from Francois Brisebois with Oppenheimer. Your line is now open. Speaker 1500:46:16Hi, thanks for the question. Just quickly 2 here. So in terms of the 2,000 sites that you're now in, do you discuss you discussed some that are only either of these, some that are only SafroBrid, but can you discuss how many sites you ultimately like to get into? What's your market penetration in terms of sites that makes sense? Thank you. Speaker 200:46:36Thank you, Francois. Adam? Speaker 1100:46:38Thanks, Francois. Speaker 300:46:39So yes, we're in over 2,000 sites that have chosen to use cyphovary. And as I said before, some of those sites are very cyphovary dominant. We believe that there are over 3,000 sites initially that we want to target. So we still have an opportunity for growth when it comes to sites. And as I said, my very nerdy metric of more than double digit new accounts using Cyfobri for the first time every week since launch continues. Speaker 300:47:06So that shows you that we're making impact. It's a big market with a large prescriber base. Speaker 1500:47:12Thank you. And then just quickly in terms of the readout here mid year valiant readout, can you just help remind us what would you consider a successful readout here? Speaker 200:47:23Thank you so much for that question as well. We are very excited about the Valyant readout. We believe that in C3 gs and ICMP Gen there is a very high and unmet medical need that will be associated with an important new market for empaveri. In the VALION trial, we have enrolled 124 subjects, a very large trial across both ICMPGN and C3g pre transplant as well as post transplant. And the primary endpoint is a logarithmic transformation in proteinuria reduction powered to show approximately 30%, but a significant reduction in proteinuria is what we are looking for and will be placed in the context with some of the secondary endpoints. Speaker 1600:48:12Thank you. Operator00:48:14Thank you. One moment for our next question. Our next question comes from Adam Vogel with Wells Fargo. Your line is now open. Speaker 1700:48:26Great. Thank you for taking my call. I'm on for Derek today. Maybe just a little bit more on the Valyant readout. How granular will you report this data out across each indication and setting? Speaker 1700:48:39And then within those, is there like one that's clearly the largest opportunity for you? Or are they fairly similar across indications and settings? Speaker 200:48:49Thank you so much, Adam. So this is again a very large market opportunity and something that we're really looking forward to reading out. I didn't exactly hear your question because it was breaking up a little bit. Could you repeat that please? Speaker 1700:49:07Sorry, yes. So just across indications, how granular are you going to be reporting out like each indication across like pre and post kidney transplants? And is there a market opportunity among these that is kind of like the largest opportunity for you guys or is it fairly similar across each indication and setting? Speaker 200:49:31Yes. Thank you so much. So C3g is the larger markets or and the larger opportunity in terms of patients compared to ICMPGM. But I think it's important here to point out as well that correctly differentiating between those two indications is also not straightforward. You have to look at histopath and make the determination there. Speaker 200:49:53I think for us, the purpose was to really go very broad, again, not just between the two indications, but also in the pre and the post transplant opportunity. Speaker 1700:50:12Got you. And then maybe just one follow-up on the SFJ loan repayment, is there any new color you can provide us on loan repayment strategies? Speaker 400:50:26Thank you, Tim. Sure. Thank you. So, look, one of the things we look at carefully is our cash management. So ultimately when you look at our SFJ payments, they amount to approximately $200,000,000 over the next, call it, 20 months. Speaker 400:50:44And that along with our increase in the receivables that we extend, so the credit we extend to the channel, that represents a fairly large cash use for us. So obviously, we spend a good amount of time thinking about the best way to perform balance sheet management and we have a number of options available to us, tactical options, non dilutive options are there are several of those. So we evaluate those all the time. We'll update you if we plan to do anything there. Speaker 1700:51:18Great. Thank you. Operator00:51:20Thank you. One moment for our next question. Our next question comes from Joseph Springer with Needham and Company. Your line is now open. Speaker 1800:51:32Hi, thanks for taking our question. Just a follow-up on prior question on the switching between CIFOBRII and ISOVI. I understand you haven't provided quantitative metrics on this, but maybe I'll ask a different way. Could you give us any color into perhaps the most common reasons why patients would switch between the 2 drugs? Speaker 200:51:55Thank you so much, Suik, for the question. So look, I think switchers quite frankly is not something that I think is an easy conversation between physicians and patients. When you are on either of the 2 drugs and you want to switch that patient over, you're going to have to go and have a conversation around that. Again, we are mostly focused on the new patients and as they come on board and as we've mentioned, we have of course our differentiated efficacy profile to work from. And again, it's an enormous market and it's an enormous number of patients who are in dire need. Speaker 200:52:29Adam, Caroline, do you want to add something? Speaker 100:52:31I think it's uncommon for our physicians to be switching now. The majority of physicians are really very happy with our transparency, with our messaging and with our efficacy. And in the long term, this is an elderly patient population. They want to have this true every other month dosing, which shows enormous efficacy for us into year 3 and beyond. And I think that really speaks to the doctors. Speaker 100:53:01And they sort of understand the safety messaging and which has also been associated with intravitreal injections as a whole, understand that are able to inform their patients and have moved on from that. Speaker 300:53:15And Joey, just to add, it's Adam. Yes. So I think the switching dynamic did occur during the late summer months of last year. We have also seen some patients anecdotally switch back to XIFAVI. And as Caroline says, our assumption there is that this is an efficacy driven market and these are incredibly well educated patients and physicians. Speaker 300:53:37So we continue to see the strong majority of new starts, start on SYFOVRI and I think that's a very positive indicator. Speaker 1800:53:49Great. Thank you so much for taking our question. Speaker 200:53:52Thank you. Operator00:53:53Thank you. One moment for our next question. Our next question comes from Douglas Tsao with H. C. Wainwright. Operator00:54:02Your line is now open. Speaker 1600:54:04Hi, good morning and thanks for taking the questions and congrats on the progress. Just you've noted that this that later seems to be a first injection phenomenon. I'm just curious, is there anything that you can do to lower the rate from the 1 in 4,000, which is already rare, but to minimize it even further? And I guess I'd just be curious if there are efforts both in the near term or perhaps longer term work that Speaker 900:54:31could be done. Thank you. Speaker 200:54:34Thank you so much, Doug. Look, we are looking into ways to potentially predict the at risk patients that are there. But again, kind of placing things into context here, right? I mean, the rate that we have here is similar to what you have with for an infectious endophthalmitis, which is a risk that happens at every single injection that is done, right. So most importantly, last year when we went into this, the question was, is this a problem that is just the beginning of much more and it is not. Speaker 200:55:04So right now we are in a period of stabilization, position to understand the risk. We've been incredibly, I think, good and transparent at communicating it. And now the dialogue is shifting towards efficacy. Speaker 1600:55:17And I'm just curious as a follow-up, to the extent that there are practices using both, Ciforae as well as AZERVE, do you get a sense whether the physician sort of how is ultimately decided which drug a patient will get? Is it being left up to the patient? Do you get the sense? Or is it sort of are physicians choosing patients by any number of different reasons? Speaker 200:55:43Yes. Thank you. Caroline, do you want to? Speaker 100:55:45Well, I think some of these practices are so large. Say, there's a benefit to offering across all the therapeutic options. For example, a patient might come in who was treated in a different state and wants to continue on while they're vacationing with their treatment and then they'll go back. So there's a whole host of reasons that speak to physician choices. But I think the main thing that physicians like is efficacy and that is really where we're strong efficacy and flexibility while being transparent with our safety dosing. Speaker 100:56:21So, I can only say that in my practice, we offer every therapeutic option that's available, but the discussion is often based on the statistics with the patients and making that choice with them together. Speaker 1600:56:35Great. That's helpful. Thank you. Operator00:56:38Thank you. One moment for our next question. And our next question comes from Greg Suvannavejh with Mizuho Securities. Your line is now open. Speaker 1900:56:52Great. Thanks so much for taking my questions and congrats on a nice cyphobry number. I was wondering if you could either qualify or quantify what you're expecting, the recent implementation of the CMSJ code for IZURVATE to have, or has it already had, if there has been any? And maybe a second question as a follow-up. I believe a question was asked earlier about expectations around gross to net, what we could expect them for perhaps the Q2 and how that might evolve throughout the year? Speaker 1900:57:26Thanks. Speaker 200:57:28Thank you, Greg. Adam on CMS and then Tim on CRISPR. Speaker 300:57:32Yes. So I think J code unlocks prescribers. And so just like it was for us, I think the J code will unlock some prescribers for Isovay. But just as a reminder, right, being the number one chosen GA therapy across new starts and continuing patients, I think that we win when those conversations take place based on the strong efficacy and the well documented safety. So J code has an impact just like it did for us, but we're laser focused on executing our plan in this massive market. Speaker 300:58:05And I'm going to hand to Tim on gross to net. Speaker 400:58:09Thank you for the question, Greg. Yes, so for gross to net, no, it has been relatively stable. And really we don't comment generally other than to say we've had a pretty wide range of 10% to 20% that we've said. I think it's a wide range, but you can get somewhere in the middle and understand where gross to net has been consistent. Operator00:58:35Thank you. I'm showing no further questions at this time. I would now like to turn it back to Cedric Francois for closing remarks. Speaker 200:58:43Thank you so much everyone for joining. If you have any follow-up questions, please feel free to reach out to Meredith and we look forward to hearing and speaking with many of you today and the next week. Thank you. Operator00:58:55This concludes today's conference call. Thank you for participating. 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There are 20 speakers on the call. Operator00:00:00Good morning, ladies and gentlemen. Thank you for standing by, and welcome to the Apellis Pharmaceuticals First Quarter 2024 Earnings Conference Call. At this time, all participants are in a listen only mode. After the speakers' presentation, there will be a question and answer session. Please be advised, today's call is being recorded. Operator00:00:32I will now turn the call over to your speaker host, Meredith Kaya, Senior Vice President, Investor Relations and Strategic Finance. Please go ahead. Speaker 100:00:42Good morning, and thank you for joining us to discuss Apellis' Q1 2024 Financial Results. With me on the call are Co Founder and Chief Executive Officer, Doctor. Cedric Francois Chief Operating Officer, Adam Townsend Chief Medical Officer, Doctor. Caroline Baumel and Chief Financial Officer, Tim Sullivan. Before we begin, let me point out that we will be making forward looking statements that are based on our current expectations and beliefs. Speaker 100:01:07These statements are subject to certain risks and uncertainties, and actual results may differ materially. I encourage you to consult the risk factors discussed in our SEC filings for additional detail. Now, I'll turn the call over to Cedric. Speaker 200:01:20Thank you, Meredith, and thank you all for joining us this morning. 2024 is off to a strong start. SYFOVRI continues to deliver robust growth in the Q1 driven by an acceleration in demand resulting in $137,000,000 in net sales, up 20% compared to Q4. Empaveri is also making a difference for patients with PNH, generating $26,000,000 in revenue for the quarter, and we have a number of exciting opportunities to potentially expand EMPAVEDI into new indications. We are one of the rare companies in our industry to have 2 drugs approved in just 3 years, a testament to the strength of our science and our incredible team. Speaker 200:02:08As a result, Aperis is now well positioned strategically, operationally and financially to deliver significant long term value to our shareholders. SYFYVI is key to delivering this long term value and the growth in Q1 underscores the strong demand we continue to see from both physicians and patients. Through March, eye care professionals administered 250,000 SYFOVRI injections. And in the 1st 12 months of launch, SYFOVRI generated over $400,000,000 in sales, substantially exceeding both our and Wall Street's expectations. This is extraordinary performance for any new product launch. Speaker 200:02:53SYFOVRI's leadership in the market is driven by 3 important factors. First, treatment with Cyfobri results in increasing effects over time with up to 42 percent slowing of GA progression in year 3 of Gale, building on the meaningful effect demonstrated in Derby and Oaks. 2nd, SYFOVRI has a well documented safety profile based on extensive experience both clinically and in the real world. And 3rd, SYFOVRI offers flexible dosing as described in our label, which means that patients can benefit from SYFOVRI's impressive clinical profile in as few as 6 doses per year. As the market leader, we are only getting started. Speaker 200:03:41Our performance to date reaffirms our belief that SYFYVI has the potential to become a multi $1,000,000,000 product in the U. S. Alone. We are also working to bring SYFYVI to patients worldwide. We recently announced that the European Medicines Agency reset the review of the SYFY reapplication back to day 180 of our initial assessment, which is the last phase of that procedure. Speaker 200:04:07This decision follows a judgment made by the Court of Justice in the EU regarding the competing interests of experts. The decision for SYFOVRI is strictly procedural and not related to the SYFOVRI application. The remainder of our review is expected to be led by the original rapporteur. We are working closely with the CHMP and EMEA on next steps with the upcoming CHMP opinion anticipated no later than July. Shifting to Empaveri. Speaker 200:04:41Since its launch in 2021, Empaveri has transformed the standard of care for patients with PNH. Empaveri was the 1st available treatment proven to effectively control both intravascular and extravascular hemolysis, 2 hallmarks of PNH, while also significantly improving anemia and protecting the majority of patients from transfusions over the long term. We continue to serve PNH patients who may benefit from Empavity and we believe it has the potential to become a best in class treatment option for additional high unmet need areas. Our biggest near term opportunity is in C3 gs and ICMPGM, 2 rare and devastating kidney diseases that often start in adolescence. There are currently no approved treatments for these diseases, which often leads to kidney failure or lifelong dialysis. Speaker 200:05:42Our Phase 2 NOBLE data showed unprecedented effects on disease activity, and reductions by 1 or more magnitudes of intensity in 80% of treated patients. We plan to share the 52 week data from the NOBLE study at the European Renal Association meeting later this month, and we look forward to sharing the top line data from our Phase 3 VALION study in mid-twenty 24. Separately, I'm sure many of you saw the recent news out of New York University regarding the first ever combined mechanical heart pump and big kidney transplant. This was a historic event and we are thrilled that Empavady played a role making this xenotransplant surgery a success by helping to protect the kidney from potential rejection. Empaveri was also involved in the xenotransplant surgery performed at Mass General Hospital in March by helping to stabilize the transplanted kidney when it showed signs of early rejection. Speaker 200:06:53And while the research is early and we have a lot to learn still, we are encouraged by the potential of Empaveri in xenotransplantation. Overall, I am thrilled with the progress we have made so far in 20 24. With 2 commercial products and an emerging pipeline, which we are excited to share more about later this year, we remain steadfast in our vision to develop life changing medicines for people living with some of the most challenging diseases. And with that, I will now turn it over to Adam to discuss our commercial activities. Speaker 300:07:30Thanks, Cedric, and good morning, everyone. I will jump right in with XIFAVI. As Cedric shared, XIFAVI sales over the past 12 months have been strong. Initially, our success was largely driven by fast uptake from early adopters. More recently, we've seen both new patient demand and an increasing prescriber base driving sales. Speaker 300:07:55While we continue to focus on the importance of patients with GA getting the treatment they need. Further, we are investing in direct to consumer marketing initiatives to increase patient O and M and education about Xyphovary and GA. Suffice to say that our efforts are paying off. In the Q1, we distributed 72,000 commercial doses and 5,000 samples. The 1st 3 months of this year were the 3 largest volume months since launched through Q1. Speaker 300:08:38Growth rates varied monthly with a slight decline in February as compared to January and then a reacceleration in March resulting in some of the largest demand weeks to date and our biggest month of the quarter. Additionally, in Q1, we continue to see a double digit number of new sites come on board each week, with over 2,000 sites of care now using cytovery across a broad range of practice types. We are thrilled by the continued growth we have seen in the 2nd quarter so far across both new and existing patients. It has been an incredible launch. And now that we are in its 2nd year, we will be going back to sharing key metrics with you as of quarter end. Speaker 300:09:27Regarding vasculitis, the rate remains rare at approximately 1 in 10,000 injections. What we have learned is that this appears to be a first injection phenomenon, with the rate following a first injection estimated at about 1 in 4,000. Given the extensive real world experience with XIFAVI to date, retina specialists are more confident that these rates are rare and stable. And we are seeing many physicians who had either paused or decreased their use now start to use Xiphobri again or use it in more of their patients. Shifting gears to longer term dynamics, Xyphobia remains the number one chosen treatment for GA, with approximately 85% of the treated market. Speaker 300:10:19We are confident that it will remain the market leader due to its strong efficacy, well documented safety profile, flexible dosing and the robustness of our overall data set. Even more, we are only in the early stages of a large and growing market. The estimated prevalence of GA patients is up to 1,500,000 in the United States. Today, based on a recent claims analysis, patients treated are estimated to make up 12% of the market as defined only by those patients who have been diagnosed and are managed by an ECP. However, many G8 patients are not yet diagnosed or have not been referred to a specialist. Speaker 300:11:09In fact, only a small portion of newly diagnosed patients currently being treated with XIFAVI are referrals. This means there continues to be a huge opportunity for XIFABRI as the vast majority of GA patients have not yet been treated. Now that we are in year 2, we are executing the next stage of our commercial strategy. Remember, we are launching a transformative medicine for a disease that has never had a treatment available. So we have learned a lot about what drives both physicians and patients. Speaker 300:11:45Let me start with physicians. We plan to further increase our reach within existing physician targets as well as expand our use amongst those who have not used XIFAVA yet. We are refining our messaging as we better understand what is resonating. At launch, our messaging initially focused on efficacy, but then shifted to safety last summer. Now we have pivoted back to leading with efficacy, highlighting Speaker 200:12:19the Speaker 300:12:24functional benefits following SYFOGRI treatment. We are also broadening our reach to provide disease state education to other referring eye care providers who see tens of thousands of GA patients. As the market leader, we are educating those doctors on the importance of GA treatment so that patients see a specialist who can then decide the right treatment approach. Moving to patients, another key learning over the past year is how motivated and actively engaged patients are in their treatment decisions. As you may have seen in our unbranded DTC campaign, our initial message was focused on increasing awareness of GA and encouraging patients to see their eye care professional. Speaker 300:13:12These efforts have netted very positive results, including thousands of new GA diagnosis and a significant number of patients starting Xyphobre treatment. We recently launched a branded DTC campaign with the focus now on encouraging patients to talk to their physicians about GA treatment with XIFAVI. Our goal for this campaign is to increase awareness, access many more patients and accelerate the speed to diagnosis and treatment of GA. Now let me shift to Empelli for PNH. Revenues in the quarter were $26,000,000 Compliance rates remain incredibly high at 97% and the product also continues to have a compelling safety profile. Speaker 300:14:02With over 1600 patient years of systemic pegcetagoplan exposure, there have still been 0 cases of meningococcal infection and very low rates of thrombosis. But obviously, we are now seeing heightened competition. With a new entrant in the market, we anticipate pressure on Empereville sales, at least for the next 6 to 12 months. Although we have a strong foothold, I want to be realistic that demand is expected to be flat in the medium term. We still expect to see new patients starting on treatment, but we also expect to see some patients switching to an oral. Speaker 300:14:45The empovelli team is laser focused on emphasizing the real world profile of empovelli with physicians, including its 3 year efficacy data and strong safety profile. We have confidence that this profile will drive some physicians and patients to return to Empower Valley over time. While still very early, we've already seen a few instances of this. Finally, we are particularly excited about the opportunity to potentially expand Empelli into C3g and primary ICMPGM. These are 2 devastating diseases with tremendous unmet need and a patient population that is 3 times bigger than PNH. Speaker 300:15:32If approved, we will be able to leverage much of our existing infrastructure, such as utilization of our field based teams to reach nephrologists and deliver empervally to patients and physicians. Caroline will give more detail on the opportunity we have for these diseases. Caroline? Speaker 100:15:53Thanks, Adam, and good morning, everyone. Yes, we are really looking forward to the top line data from our Phase 3 XION study in C3 gs and ICMPGM, which we expect mid-twenty 24. I'm going to focus my remarks today on this upcoming development milestone, providing some background on the patient population as well as on the study. C3g and ICMPGN are debilitating kidney diseases caused by uncontrolled complement activation and breakdown of C3. Symptoms include protein and blood in the urine, swelling, fatigue and high blood pressure. Speaker 100:16:37These diseases are estimated to affect 5,000 people in the United States and up to 8,000 in Europe, with the first diagnosis typically occurring in adolescence. Within 5 to 10 years of diagnosis, approximately 50% of people living with C3g and ICMPGN ultimately suffer from kidney failure, resulting in either kidney transplant or lifelong dialysis, both of which are highly burdensome and life threatening to the patient. However, neither are curative and there are no approved therapies for these diseases. The incidence of disease recurrence is high and up to 50% of patients lose their kidney transplant due to the disease recurrence. Some patients may have multiple transplants in their life time depending on their age at the first diagnosis. Speaker 100:17:38The VALION study enrolled 124 patients with either C3 gs or primary ICMPGN in a randomized placebo controlled double blinded multicenter study designed to evaluate pegzetacopalan efficacy and safety. It is the only Phase 3 study to include a broad population inclusive of adolescent and adult patients with native and post transplant forms of both diseases. Study participants were randomized 1 to 1 to receive pegzidocoplin or placebo twice weekly for 26 weeks. Following this 26 week period, patients moved to a 26 week open label phase in which all patients received pegcetacopalan. The PRIMAR endpoint is a log transformed ratio of urine protein to creatinine ratio or uPCR, a key marker of disease progression in all patients at week 26 compared to baseline. Speaker 100:18:48Physicians consider a statistically significant response to the primary endpoint as clinically meaningful in this disease. Key secondary endpoints include additional measures on both new PCR and on eGFR. We are very excited about the potential opportunity that pegsidocoplin may have meetings over the past few months. The retina community has been highly engaged with the Apellis team, especially regarding our latest data from the GAIL study, which demonstrated up to 42% slowing of GA growth in year 3 in non synchovial patients compared to projected sham. These increasing effects had never been shown before in any GA study. Speaker 100:19:49Finally, before I hand it over to Tim, I want to extend a warm welcome to Doctor. Phil Ferron, who joins us as our Chief Medical Retina Advisor. I have known Phil for a long time, having worked on multiple clinical trials and other programs together throughout our careers. Phil is a leading figure within the medical community with deep expertise in patient care and retina research. He is also a past President of the ASRS and has been on its board for 18 years. Speaker 100:20:21Given Phil's in-depth experience with Cyfobri and overall retina experience, he is uniquely positioned to help us continue to bring Cyfobri to GA patients and develop our retina pipeline. I know I speak for all of us at Apellis when I say we are thrilled to have him on board. Now I will turn the call over to Tim for a review of the financials. Tim? Speaker 400:20:47Thank you, Caroline. I will provide a brief overview of our financials and you can find additional details in the press release that we issued earlier this morning. Total revenue for the Q1 2024 was $172,300,000 including $137,500,000 in SYFOVRI and $25,600,000 in Empival U. S. Net product revenue. Speaker 400:21:08This compares with $44,800,000 in total revenue in the Q1 of 2023. Turning to the rest of the P and L. For the Q1, cost of sales was $20,200,000 R and D expenses were $84,700,000 The reason R and D expenses are slightly higher in Q1 versus Q4 is because there was a $15,000,000 one time non cash expense in Q1 related to the discontinuation of CAD. SG and A expenses were $129,500,000 and we reported a net loss of $66,400,000 dollars While R and D and SG and A may fluctuate on a quarterly basis, we continue to expect our total operating expenses for the full year 2024 to be less than our total expenses in 2023. Turning to our balance sheet. Speaker 400:21:54As of March 31, 2020 4, we had $326,000,000 in cash and cash equivalents. As Cedric mentioned, we are in a strong position financially. With our existing cash combined with projected revenues, we continue to believe that we have sufficient cash to fund our operations for the foreseeable future. I will now hand the call back over to Cedric for closing remarks. Cedric? Speaker 200:22:18Thanks, Tim. We are highly encouraged by the start of 2024 and excited for the value driving milestones on the horizon. I want to emphasize our determination to be the leader in complement medicine. The progress across our pipeline exemplified by, but not limited to, SYFOVRI and AMPAVETI is presenting us with opportunities to create meaningful therapies and substantial value for shareholders. We appreciate your continued support. Speaker 200:22:47We truly believe that the best is yet to come. Let us now open the call for questions. Operator? Operator00:23:23Our first question comes from Umer Raffat with Evercore ISI. Your line is now open. Speaker 200:23:29Hi, guys. Thanks for taking the question. Speaker 500:23:30It's actually John Miller on for Umer here. I would love to start with the competitive dynamics in GA. Obviously, we heard recently from your recently launched competitor that they expect to see 25% market share already and go into 40% by the end of the year. That doesn't jive with what you just told us, saying you have 85% market share. So maybe you could put into context some of the differences, how we square that circle with the market share that they reported versus you reported? Speaker 500:24:02And maybe a little bit about how you expect competitive dynamics in GA to evolve over the course of the year as a new competitor launches? Speaker 200:24:13Thank you, John. Great to hear you. Adam? Speaker 300:24:16Thanks, John. It's Adam. So yes, firstly, we are thrilled with the 20% growth we saw in Q1 versus Q4. So obviously, there are many ways to estimate market share. And what we do here is that we look at market share as patients treated with GA. Speaker 300:24:35We think it's the most robust way of measuring market share. You then know that the drug is actually being used within a patient. A standard calculates market share based off of vials distributed. So again, patients is the number one choice for us when it comes to market share. It means you can rule out things like vials at wholesalers, vials at in hospital fridges, doctors fridges. Speaker 300:25:01And also it accounts for frequency of administration, right? We are tend to be a very much strong every other month drug. And by looking at patients, you can be much more specific than that. So with the number one chosen GAA therapy, I continue to see that progressing as we progress through the year. This is a massive market. Speaker 300:25:22We've chosen 1st across new patients and continued physicians' choice. We have the potential to be a multibillion dollar product in the U. S. And I expect that to continue as we push to execute our plans for the rest of the year. Speaker 500:25:39Thanks. That makes a ton of sense. And I guess as we think about moving beyond that U. S. Market, which as you say is very robust, I have a question about the EU process that now seems to have been restarted or set back or gone back to the original repertoires. Speaker 500:25:58Can you just bottom line for us, is that good news or bad news? Does this increase the likelihood or decrease the likelihood of EU actually getting approved at some point? Speaker 200:26:09Thank you, John. In terms of the odds of approval, quite frankly, we think nothing has changed. This is a procedural delay that was caused by a loss that had nothing to do with us between the EU and another company. So we're going to have to wait a little bit longer, but we think that the odds of the probability stay the same. All right. Speaker 200:26:36Thanks very much. Thank you. Operator00:26:38Thank you. One moment for our next question. Our next question comes from Azeem Ahmad with Bank of America Securities. Your line is now open. Speaker 600:26:50Hi, guys. Good morning and thanks for taking my question. I just wanted to get a sense about how you're seeing the rate you saw in 1Q? We know that you had impacted several insurances needing to be reset. But now that that's largely or completely behind you, can you talk about the general rate of growth and whether or not the rate of growth is starting to flat line or 1Q is going to be a seasonal effect going forward? Speaker 600:27:21Thanks. Speaker 200:27:23Thank you so much, Thad. And you were breaking up a little bit. I think your question was whether the rate of growth continues to be in line with what it was before for Stifel, right? Speaker 600:27:34Yes. With the exception of 1Q being impacted with the insurance resub. Speaker 300:27:40Okay. Yes, excellent. Thank you. Adam? Thanks, Tazeen. Speaker 300:27:43So yes, for us to see 20% quarterly growth 1 year into the launch, I think it's an incredible indicator for long term success. Also remember that last year, October to December, had a better understanding of our efficacy profile with the 3 year GALE data in November. And we're going to continue to push that for the remainder of the year. This large market we believe is driven by efficacy. We're incredibly well positioned for strong future growth, both in the near term and the long term. Speaker 300:28:15And we continue to see that strong growth into Q2, and we're excited for our next earnings call where we can share a lot more details about that. Speaker 600:28:26Okay. Thank you. Operator00:28:28Thank you. One moment for our next question. Our next question comes from Anupam Rama with JPMorgan. Your line is open. Speaker 700:28:42Hey, guys. This is Priyanka on for Anupam. And just building up a little bit on the first question, how are you thinking about the dynamics around the November regulatory action for ISERVAY? And what various scenarios could do to market share? Thanks. Speaker 200:28:58Thank you so much for that question. We do not want to comment on our competitor. You would have to ask them about that. But of course, these are all elements that will factor into where ultimately the landscape ends. I think what really stands out here is that this market is absolutely enormous, unfortunately because there are so many patients and we have only begun to scratch the surface. Speaker 700:29:23Got you. Thanks so much. Speaker 200:29:26Thank you. Operator00:29:27Thank you. One moment for our next question. Our next question comes from Salveen Richter with Goldman Sachs. Your line is now open. Speaker 800:29:41Good morning. Thanks for taking my question. Could you just speak to the magnitude of seasonality impact in the Q1? And then regarding your launch here, maybe help us understand in the Q1, what new prescribers and new patients look like in terms of uptake here and Speaker 100:30:04as well as follow-up doses? Thank you. Speaker 200:30:08Thank you, Salveen. Great to hear you, Adam. Speaker 300:30:11Thanks, Salveen. So yes, March was the strongest month for our Q1. So February dipped a little bit. And as you know, right, this is the first time we learned about seasonality with CyFovary with all of the work that we did for insurance recertifications, plus the impact of storms. Agnostic to that, etcetera, and that seasonality, we still saw great strong growth. Speaker 300:30:36So and we're seeing that growth continue into Q2. As Cedric has said earlier in the previous question, this is an incredibly big market of which we think the profile of our drug with a strong efficacy, well documented safety, flexible dosing the unmatched data that backs all of that up is going to be incredibly strong for us moving forward. Q2, the team is laser focused on executing our plan and we are the number one picked GA treatment. Operator00:31:16And our next question comes from Yigal Nochomovitz with Citigroup. Your line is now open. Speaker 900:31:24Guys, thank you so much for taking the questions. I had a few, Adam, on some of the commercial dynamics. Could you comment at all on switching rates either from Eizervase, Cyfovirate or vice versa? And then you mentioned there are about 2,000 sites of care that you've already seen uptake. Could you comment what percent of those are exclusively stocking cyfovary? Speaker 900:31:43Or is there a fraction that's stocking both drugs? And is there a fraction that's just stocking IZURVEY? And then you mentioned that the rate following the first injection on ROV was 1 out of 4,000. I'm not sure if I misheard that. Can you just comment, was it 1 out of 4,000 or a different number? Speaker 900:32:00I would have thought it would have been lower if it was the first injection phenomenon with the rate in 0.01? Thanks. Speaker 300:32:08Yes, Yigal. So switching, so again, we have the strong majority of new patients starts, They choose, SYFOBRI. No surprise, right? Isovay's J code is now into action. We'll see some fluctuations on new starts as we did with RJ Code. Speaker 300:32:29But the strong majority of new starts choose XIFA. And I think that's a very positive metric moving forward. Yes, we have over 2,000 sites of care. And my very nerdy metric continues that we get double digit new sites starting Cyclovary every week and that has been the same since the beginning of the launch. That's a very strong indicator of demand. Speaker 300:32:52Some sites share both drugs. There are certain sites that are Xiphobri only sites, predominantly cyfovary. They tend to choose cyfovary for the efficacy of the drug and the data sets that supports that efficacy. There are 1 or 2 sites that during vasculitis did switch to Isovay. But we've also started to see those sites come back. Speaker 300:33:16And we've started to see physicians who did pause during last year's vasculitis conversation have started to come back too. So the trends are very positive for what is going to be a very large opportunity in GA. GA. You also had a question on vasculitis rate. Speaker 200:33:40Yes. Sorry, Yigal. Hi, this is Cedric. So the rate has been stable since the very beginning at about 1 in 10000. And this is predominantly a first injection phenomenon, where the odds are about 1 in 4000, which is in the same range of what you would find, for example, infectious endophthalmitis. Speaker 200:33:59But it is really that first injection. So if you are a physician with a patient, that is a conversation that you can have. After that, we believe that the very low vasculitis rate is in line with what you would find for Enteb Speaker 900:34:13I understand what you're saying. I thought you said the 1 in 4,000 was for the second and subsequent, but it's for the first. I get you. Thank you. Speaker 200:34:22Only the first injection. Correct. Operator00:34:24Right. Yes. Thank you. One moment for our next question. And our next question comes from Steve Seedhouse with Raymond James. Operator00:34:36Your line is now open. Speaker 500:34:39Hi, thank you. Speaker 400:34:39This is Nick on for Steve. We just wanted to clarify if you're able to submit new data, whether it's long term deal data, functional analyses or real world safety data as part of the updated review process in Europe? Thank you. Speaker 200:34:55Thank you so much, Steve. So we are allowed to make changes and submit new data as part of the first review. It is in the appeals process that that is not allowed. Speaker 400:35:11Thank you. And one quick follow-up, are you able to comment on how many patients have been treated with Xyphovir to date? Speaker 200:35:19That is not a number that we provide. Okay. Thank you. Operator00:35:25Thank you. Thank you. One moment for our next question. Our next question comes from Colleen Cusi with Baird. Your line is now open. Speaker 1000:35:38Great. Good morning. Thanks for taking our questions. Adam, you commented on a slight dip in February. Is that a factor of every 8 week dosing or kind of what do you think was driving that slight dip? Speaker 1000:35:49And then can you just comment on inventory in the quarter? I think our math is showing there's a slight drawdown in the quarter, but could you just comment, please? Speaker 300:35:57Hey, Colleen. Yes. So yes, I mean, obviously, February was a shorter month. And I think there's always a little bit of seasonality in January, February March that we've seen. But we picked straight back up in March and continue to see growth into Q2. Speaker 300:36:14Now, we previously announced mid February 40,000 doses and just add a little bit of context to your question, that was within the 1st 7 weeks of a 13 week quarter. We then saw an additional 37,000 doses distributed across the remaining 6 weeks. So, that just shows you a little bit about the timing of those type of announcements and the seasonality within. What was the second part of your question? Just I didn't catch it. Speaker 200:36:42Drawdown of inventory. Speaker 300:36:47Yes. Oh, drawdown of inventory, we did see certain wholesalers drawdown inventory and we that's again normal as part of the seasonality of the month. Speaker 1000:36:59Great. Thank you. Operator00:37:01Thank you. One moment for our next question. Our next question comes from Philip Nadeau with TD Cowen. Your line is now open. Speaker 1100:37:18Good morning. Thanks for taking our questions. One from us and a follow-up. On the future trends, there seems to be a lot of focus among investors on what IsoRay is going to do to your growth in future quarters. I know you've expressed confidence that you'll continue to grow given the size of the market. Speaker 1100:37:34I think people are debating whether current consensus is achievable. It looks like for Q2 and Q3 consensus calls for 11% to 12% growth quarter over quarter in both those quarters. It seems like a meaningful deceleration thus far in Q2? Thank you so much, Phil. Adam? Speaker 1100:37:54Yes. I think thus far in Q2? Speaker 200:37:58Thank you so much, Phil. Adam? Speaker 300:38:00Yes. Thanks, Phil. So 20% growth Q1 versus Q4, I think, is a very positive thing. And we continue to seeing growth into Q2, strong growth. We don't comment on what that growth will look like for the Q4. Speaker 300:38:15We're excited to be able to represent that at our next earnings call. Speaker 1100:38:20That's fair enough. And then just one follow-up on the EU. Should you get a negative CHMP opinion in July? Do you still now have the appeals process available to you? Could you go down the same road that you thought you were going to go down back in January once this review is over? Speaker 200:38:38Thank you, Phil. Yes, we can. So as I mentioned before, the process will be longer, but we believe that the other approvability stay the same. Speaker 1100:38:47Perfect. Thanks for taking our questions. Operator00:38:49Thank you. Thank you. One moment for our next question. And our next question comes from Akash Tewari with Jefferies. Your line is now open. Speaker 1200:39:02Hello, good morning. This is Ivy on for Akash. We have a couple of quick ones on safari. So first is on safety. What's your current hypothesis on the causes behind the cases? Speaker 1200:39:13Have you done any testing on PAC antibodies? And then on the competitive landscape, if there's no more retinal vasculitis cases for either way over the next two quarters, how would your internal market share projections shift? And finally, it's for your branded DTC campaign. What's the ROI you're targeting at? And also like what's the spend associated with this campaign for this year? Speaker 1200:39:38Thanks. Speaker 200:39:40Thank you so much and wonderful to hear you. So first of all, on the hypothesis, again, as we've discussed before, it is pretty remarkable that there is this first injection phenomenon, right, from an immunological perspective. Our leading hypothesis, as you correctly mentioned, is indeed around polyethylene glycol. That is the work that we will continue to do to further explore. Now for our competitor, we will see where things land. Speaker 200:40:07I think what is really important for us is that the rates of vasculitis is extremely low and stays extremely low is a first injection phenomenon. And the efficacy is something that, of course, really stands out for SYFOVRI versus our competitor, which at the end of the day, we think will be the most important. All of this stands in the background, of course, of this enormous market that geographic atrophy represents because of the enormous amount of patients that are unfortunately affected by this disease. So as it relates to the PTC campaign, let me hand it over to Adam. Speaker 300:40:43Yes, Ivy, and I'll just add on to what Cedric said, right. Our market leadership is driven by our strong efficacy, well documented safety, flexible dosing and the unmatched data set that holds all of that up. So that's, I think, incredibly important for the rest of the year. And I think people choose GA drugs for their incredibly strong efficacy. As to DTC, so our DTC campaign is actually live now on TV. Speaker 300:41:11So our new campaigns are streaming. We're investing in this campaign because we think it has an incredibly strong positive return on investment. It will drive more patients into retina specialist offices and those patients will see our ad and ask for Xyfobri. And then the 4 pillars of what we think builds up a great GA drug come into play there where the physician will have that conversation with those patients and hopefully put those patients on. So as Cedric said, this is a large market and all of our DTC activities will push more cytovery patients into the market. Speaker 1200:41:50Thanks. Operator00:41:51Thank you. One moment for our next question. Our next question comes from Ellie Merle with UBS. Your line is now open. Speaker 1300:42:04Hey guys, thanks for taking the question. Just one quickly on expenses and profitability. Just given you expect expenses to be less in 2024 versus 2023 and with SYFOBRII growing, how are you thinking about when you might reach profitability? And what are the potential swing factors there? And then just a second one on your pricing strategy. Speaker 1300:42:25What are your expectations for gross to net in the second quarter? And do you expect any uptick in gross to net or in your use of samplings in the second quarter? And just walk us through how you're thinking about your pricing and contract and strategy? Speaker 200:42:39Thanks. Thank you, Ellie. Great to Speaker 400:42:41hear you. Tim? Sure. Thanks, Ellie. So the good news is we're in a very strong financial position and we've previously said that our cash and our projected revenues are sufficient to fund our operations for the foreseeable future. Speaker 400:42:54From an expense perspective, on a quarterly basis, our Q4 2023 expenses were lower than our were lower than our Q3 2023 expenses by about 7%. And then taking into account the one time charge for the cold agglutinin disease this quarter, they would have been down further 5% or so. So we have seen that decrease in operating expenses and we continue to believe that our expenses will be lower in 2024 than 2023. On the top line, you can see that we're also growing nicely and that combination, we've said, will obviously allow us to fund our operations, but we don't actually guide on when we would become profitable. Operator00:43:40Thank you. One moment for our next question. And our next question comes from Annabel Samimy with Stifel. Your line is now open. Speaker 1400:43:53Hi, all. Thanks for taking my question. I want to ask about the referrals from ophthalmologists. Has that just started or retinal specialists still working with their own patients? And with this DTC campaign, can the retinal specialist handle the number of the volume of referrals that are going to be coming in, if the referrals have just started? Speaker 1400:44:19And then on the competitive landscape, obviously, ISAVE has been out for a little bit now. Now they have a J code. But I mean, instead of thinking about it as a competitive headwind, do you actually think that having a competitor out there is creating more of a tailwind for the whole entire space. And maybe you can speak to that and what dynamics you're seeing there. Thanks. Speaker 200:44:42Thank you so much, Annabel. I'll hand it over to Adam. Speaker 300:44:45Yes. Thanks, Annabel. So at the moment, referrals are quite lower. And as you said, right, this is a very large market. So the vast majority of retina physicians are treating patients that they already had a relationship with or were on their books, so to speak. Speaker 300:45:02And we believe the DTC campaign will start to push those patients that they don't have and those referrals from ophthalmologists and optometrists in to get treatment. So that's the core aspects of our DTC. The feedback we hear from retinal physicians is that they have the capability of accepting many, many more patients. And I don't think it's remotely a problem for them to treat those new additional patients. And that's been consistent feedback we've got as we progress through the launch. Speaker 300:45:32Now competition is healthy and competition does grow an incredibly large market. And I think the team that we have in the field is laser focused on executing because Speaker 500:45:42we believe that we Speaker 300:45:42have the strongest product profile out there. Market growth driven by competition is a great tailwind for us. And I think we're primed and have the best drive to be able to capitalize upon. Speaker 100:46:02Great. Thanks. Operator00:46:03Thank you. One moment for our next question. Our next question comes from Francois Brisebois with Oppenheimer. Your line is now open. Speaker 1500:46:16Hi, thanks for the question. Just quickly 2 here. So in terms of the 2,000 sites that you're now in, do you discuss you discussed some that are only either of these, some that are only SafroBrid, but can you discuss how many sites you ultimately like to get into? What's your market penetration in terms of sites that makes sense? Thank you. Speaker 200:46:36Thank you, Francois. Adam? Speaker 1100:46:38Thanks, Francois. Speaker 300:46:39So yes, we're in over 2,000 sites that have chosen to use cyphovary. And as I said before, some of those sites are very cyphovary dominant. We believe that there are over 3,000 sites initially that we want to target. So we still have an opportunity for growth when it comes to sites. And as I said, my very nerdy metric of more than double digit new accounts using Cyfobri for the first time every week since launch continues. Speaker 300:47:06So that shows you that we're making impact. It's a big market with a large prescriber base. Speaker 1500:47:12Thank you. And then just quickly in terms of the readout here mid year valiant readout, can you just help remind us what would you consider a successful readout here? Speaker 200:47:23Thank you so much for that question as well. We are very excited about the Valyant readout. We believe that in C3 gs and ICMP Gen there is a very high and unmet medical need that will be associated with an important new market for empaveri. In the VALION trial, we have enrolled 124 subjects, a very large trial across both ICMPGN and C3g pre transplant as well as post transplant. And the primary endpoint is a logarithmic transformation in proteinuria reduction powered to show approximately 30%, but a significant reduction in proteinuria is what we are looking for and will be placed in the context with some of the secondary endpoints. Speaker 1600:48:12Thank you. Operator00:48:14Thank you. One moment for our next question. Our next question comes from Adam Vogel with Wells Fargo. Your line is now open. Speaker 1700:48:26Great. Thank you for taking my call. I'm on for Derek today. Maybe just a little bit more on the Valyant readout. How granular will you report this data out across each indication and setting? Speaker 1700:48:39And then within those, is there like one that's clearly the largest opportunity for you? Or are they fairly similar across indications and settings? Speaker 200:48:49Thank you so much, Adam. So this is again a very large market opportunity and something that we're really looking forward to reading out. I didn't exactly hear your question because it was breaking up a little bit. Could you repeat that please? Speaker 1700:49:07Sorry, yes. So just across indications, how granular are you going to be reporting out like each indication across like pre and post kidney transplants? And is there a market opportunity among these that is kind of like the largest opportunity for you guys or is it fairly similar across each indication and setting? Speaker 200:49:31Yes. Thank you so much. So C3g is the larger markets or and the larger opportunity in terms of patients compared to ICMPGM. But I think it's important here to point out as well that correctly differentiating between those two indications is also not straightforward. You have to look at histopath and make the determination there. Speaker 200:49:53I think for us, the purpose was to really go very broad, again, not just between the two indications, but also in the pre and the post transplant opportunity. Speaker 1700:50:12Got you. And then maybe just one follow-up on the SFJ loan repayment, is there any new color you can provide us on loan repayment strategies? Speaker 400:50:26Thank you, Tim. Sure. Thank you. So, look, one of the things we look at carefully is our cash management. So ultimately when you look at our SFJ payments, they amount to approximately $200,000,000 over the next, call it, 20 months. Speaker 400:50:44And that along with our increase in the receivables that we extend, so the credit we extend to the channel, that represents a fairly large cash use for us. So obviously, we spend a good amount of time thinking about the best way to perform balance sheet management and we have a number of options available to us, tactical options, non dilutive options are there are several of those. So we evaluate those all the time. We'll update you if we plan to do anything there. Speaker 1700:51:18Great. Thank you. Operator00:51:20Thank you. One moment for our next question. Our next question comes from Joseph Springer with Needham and Company. Your line is now open. Speaker 1800:51:32Hi, thanks for taking our question. Just a follow-up on prior question on the switching between CIFOBRII and ISOVI. I understand you haven't provided quantitative metrics on this, but maybe I'll ask a different way. Could you give us any color into perhaps the most common reasons why patients would switch between the 2 drugs? Speaker 200:51:55Thank you so much, Suik, for the question. So look, I think switchers quite frankly is not something that I think is an easy conversation between physicians and patients. When you are on either of the 2 drugs and you want to switch that patient over, you're going to have to go and have a conversation around that. Again, we are mostly focused on the new patients and as they come on board and as we've mentioned, we have of course our differentiated efficacy profile to work from. And again, it's an enormous market and it's an enormous number of patients who are in dire need. Speaker 200:52:29Adam, Caroline, do you want to add something? Speaker 100:52:31I think it's uncommon for our physicians to be switching now. The majority of physicians are really very happy with our transparency, with our messaging and with our efficacy. And in the long term, this is an elderly patient population. They want to have this true every other month dosing, which shows enormous efficacy for us into year 3 and beyond. And I think that really speaks to the doctors. Speaker 100:53:01And they sort of understand the safety messaging and which has also been associated with intravitreal injections as a whole, understand that are able to inform their patients and have moved on from that. Speaker 300:53:15And Joey, just to add, it's Adam. Yes. So I think the switching dynamic did occur during the late summer months of last year. We have also seen some patients anecdotally switch back to XIFAVI. And as Caroline says, our assumption there is that this is an efficacy driven market and these are incredibly well educated patients and physicians. Speaker 300:53:37So we continue to see the strong majority of new starts, start on SYFOVRI and I think that's a very positive indicator. Speaker 1800:53:49Great. Thank you so much for taking our question. Speaker 200:53:52Thank you. Operator00:53:53Thank you. One moment for our next question. Our next question comes from Douglas Tsao with H. C. Wainwright. Operator00:54:02Your line is now open. Speaker 1600:54:04Hi, good morning and thanks for taking the questions and congrats on the progress. Just you've noted that this that later seems to be a first injection phenomenon. I'm just curious, is there anything that you can do to lower the rate from the 1 in 4,000, which is already rare, but to minimize it even further? And I guess I'd just be curious if there are efforts both in the near term or perhaps longer term work that Speaker 900:54:31could be done. Thank you. Speaker 200:54:34Thank you so much, Doug. Look, we are looking into ways to potentially predict the at risk patients that are there. But again, kind of placing things into context here, right? I mean, the rate that we have here is similar to what you have with for an infectious endophthalmitis, which is a risk that happens at every single injection that is done, right. So most importantly, last year when we went into this, the question was, is this a problem that is just the beginning of much more and it is not. Speaker 200:55:04So right now we are in a period of stabilization, position to understand the risk. We've been incredibly, I think, good and transparent at communicating it. And now the dialogue is shifting towards efficacy. Speaker 1600:55:17And I'm just curious as a follow-up, to the extent that there are practices using both, Ciforae as well as AZERVE, do you get a sense whether the physician sort of how is ultimately decided which drug a patient will get? Is it being left up to the patient? Do you get the sense? Or is it sort of are physicians choosing patients by any number of different reasons? Speaker 200:55:43Yes. Thank you. Caroline, do you want to? Speaker 100:55:45Well, I think some of these practices are so large. Say, there's a benefit to offering across all the therapeutic options. For example, a patient might come in who was treated in a different state and wants to continue on while they're vacationing with their treatment and then they'll go back. So there's a whole host of reasons that speak to physician choices. But I think the main thing that physicians like is efficacy and that is really where we're strong efficacy and flexibility while being transparent with our safety dosing. Speaker 100:56:21So, I can only say that in my practice, we offer every therapeutic option that's available, but the discussion is often based on the statistics with the patients and making that choice with them together. Speaker 1600:56:35Great. That's helpful. Thank you. Operator00:56:38Thank you. One moment for our next question. And our next question comes from Greg Suvannavejh with Mizuho Securities. Your line is now open. Speaker 1900:56:52Great. Thanks so much for taking my questions and congrats on a nice cyphobry number. I was wondering if you could either qualify or quantify what you're expecting, the recent implementation of the CMSJ code for IZURVATE to have, or has it already had, if there has been any? And maybe a second question as a follow-up. I believe a question was asked earlier about expectations around gross to net, what we could expect them for perhaps the Q2 and how that might evolve throughout the year? Speaker 1900:57:26Thanks. Speaker 200:57:28Thank you, Greg. Adam on CMS and then Tim on CRISPR. Speaker 300:57:32Yes. So I think J code unlocks prescribers. And so just like it was for us, I think the J code will unlock some prescribers for Isovay. But just as a reminder, right, being the number one chosen GA therapy across new starts and continuing patients, I think that we win when those conversations take place based on the strong efficacy and the well documented safety. So J code has an impact just like it did for us, but we're laser focused on executing our plan in this massive market. Speaker 300:58:05And I'm going to hand to Tim on gross to net. Speaker 400:58:09Thank you for the question, Greg. Yes, so for gross to net, no, it has been relatively stable. And really we don't comment generally other than to say we've had a pretty wide range of 10% to 20% that we've said. I think it's a wide range, but you can get somewhere in the middle and understand where gross to net has been consistent. Operator00:58:35Thank you. I'm showing no further questions at this time. I would now like to turn it back to Cedric Francois for closing remarks. Speaker 200:58:43Thank you so much everyone for joining. If you have any follow-up questions, please feel free to reach out to Meredith and we look forward to hearing and speaking with many of you today and the next week. Thank you. Operator00:58:55This concludes today's conference call. Thank you for participating. You may now disconnect.Read morePowered by