NASDAQ:BLZE Backblaze Q1 2024 Earnings Report $4.51 +0.04 (+0.89%) Closing price 04/25/2025 04:00 PM EasternExtended Trading$4.51 +0.00 (+0.11%) As of 04/25/2025 04:05 PM Eastern Extended trading is trading that happens on electronic markets outside of regular trading hours. This is a fair market value extended hours price provided by Polygon.io. Learn more. Earnings HistoryForecast Backblaze EPS ResultsActual EPS-$0.27Consensus EPS -$0.31Beat/MissBeat by +$0.04One Year Ago EPSN/ABackblaze Revenue ResultsActual Revenue$29.97 millionExpected Revenue$29.75 millionBeat/MissBeat by +$220.00 thousandYoY Revenue GrowthN/ABackblaze Announcement DetailsQuarterQ1 2024Date5/8/2024TimeN/AConference Call DateWednesday, May 8, 2024Conference Call Time4:30PM ETUpcoming EarningsBackblaze's Q1 2025 earnings is scheduled for Wednesday, May 7, 2025, with a conference call scheduled at 5:00 PM ET. Check back for transcripts, audio, and key financial metrics as they become available.Q1 2025 Earnings ReportConference Call ResourcesConference Call AudioConference Call TranscriptSlide DeckPress Release (8-K)Quarterly Report (10-Q)Earnings HistoryCompany ProfileSlide DeckFull Screen Slide DeckPowered by Backblaze Q1 2024 Earnings Call TranscriptProvided by QuartrMay 8, 2024 ShareLink copied to clipboard.There are 7 speakers on the call. Operator00:00:00As a reminder, this conference is being recorded. I would now like to hand the call to Mimi Kong, Director of Investor Relations and Corporate Development. Please go ahead. Speaker 100:00:12Thank you. Good afternoon, and welcome to Backblaze's Q1 2024 Earnings Call. On the call with me today are Glenn Budman, Co Founder, CEO and Chairperson of the Board and Frank Patchell, Chief Financial Officer. Today, Vasiles will discuss the financial results that were distributed earlier this afternoon. Statements on this call include forward looking statements about our future financial results, use of our IPO proceeds, results from new features and offerings, the impact of price changes, partnerships and sales and marketing initiatives, our ability to compete effectively and manage our growth and our strategy to acquire new customers and retain and expand our business with existing customers. Speaker 100:00:58These statements are subject to risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results to differ materially, including those described in our risk factors that are included in our annual report on Form 10 ks and our other financial filings. You should not rely on our forward looking statements as predictions of future events. All forward looking statements that we make on this call are based on assumptions and beliefs as of today, and we undertake no obligation to update them except as required by law. Our discussion today will include non GAAP financial measures. These non GAAP measures should be considered in addition to and not as a substitute for our GAAP results. Speaker 100:01:39Reconciliation of GAAP to non GAAP results may be found in our earnings release, which was furnished with our Form 8 ks filed today with the SEC. You can also find a slide presentation related to our comments in the webcast, which will also be posted to our Investor Relations page after the call. Please also see our press release or presentation for definitions of additional metrics such as NRR and gross customer retention rate. Before I turn the call over to Gleb, I'd also like to mention that in the latter portion of our call, as in prior calls, we will be addressing questions from investors that we gathered through the SAi Technologies platform. Thank you for joining us. Speaker 100:02:21And I would now like to turn the call over to Gleb. Speaker 200:02:24Thanks, Mimi. Good afternoon, everyone, and thank you for joining us today. We had a record start across our key financial metrics. This quarter, revenue grew at 28%, 8 percentage points better than last year. We achieved an adjusted EBITDA margin of positive 6% versus negative 12% a year ago. Speaker 200:02:46And finally, cash usage this quarter was only $600,000 a dramatic improvement from the $13,000,000 of cash used this same period last year. Not only have we delivered accelerated business growth and improved efficiency, but we have also delivered product innovations that serve our mission of supporting customers and partners with the best storage cloud. Before diving into our business results, I want to speak to a customer trend that we're already benefiting from today and which we see accelerating. A few months ago, we conducted a survey of more than 400 IT decision makers. A majority of the respondents indicated that they prefer to choose from best of breed solutions when selecting vendors. Speaker 200:03:31And yet the cloud landscape has been historically defined by Cloud 1.0, where a few diversified cloud providers aim to lock customers into their platforms and take away customer choice. You may have heard that Google Cloud, AWS and Azure recently announced free egress for their customers. They may have done this to mollify regulators because the Cloud 1.0 model is a walled garden by design, but this move does not at all address what customers actually want because it only applies to customers who leave those platforms completely. What customers really want is to freely use their data with multiple cloud services. These fake free egress announcements are only free exit, not free egress and underscore that Cloud 1.0 just doesn't work that way. Speaker 200:04:32Businesses want Cloud 2.0, an open cloud ecosystem where businesses can use their data wherever and however they want to. It's better for them, better for innovation and ultimately better for the broader economy. And Backblaze is built for Cloud 2.0. First, our egress is actually free, allowing customers to use their data without fear of crippling bills or limits on who they work with. 2nd, we have a robust partner ecosystem, which gives customers easy access to the best of breed platforms they need. Speaker 200:05:133rd, we provide a trusted durable platform that provides strong performance. And last, we continue to deliver innovations that support customers in using the best of breed services they want. A great example of this last point is our newest innovation called Event Notifications. Event Notifications gives customers the ability to build automated workflows across different best of breed cloud providers. For example, a customer can upload a video to B2 cloud storage and event notifications will automatically trigger a compute process at another provider that prepares the file for streaming. Speaker 200:06:00Currently, similar offerings in the market only trigger actions within one platform or require complex and restrictive workarounds to work with other providers. We designed event notifications to be platform agnostic, empowering customers to build workflows from the services they want, cutting out significant inefficiencies and costs in the process. The product launched in private preview just 3 weeks ago and we already have over 100 organizations that have requested to join the early release. Event notifications was also recognized as product of the year for cloud computing and storage at the National Association of Broadcasters Conference, a major trade show for the media and entertainment industry. I'm very encouraged by the early reception and the potential for our services to become increasingly strategic for our customers. Speaker 200:06:59Including event notifications, Backblaze has announced 4 major releases over the past 6 months from the Shard Stash performance upgrade to enterprise control for business backup to our powered by Backblades program, I am proud of our team for delivering features that differentiate us and strategically position us as the de facto cloud storage provider for the open cloud. In Q1, we also made significant progress in our compliance and security programs, including StateRamp and the Motion Picture Association's trusted partner network. Focusing on compliance and security is another key element in our effort to make our services as easy to adopt as possible. In this case, for the state and local government and educational industries and the media and entertainment industry. At the same time, we continue to expand and enrich our partner network. Speaker 200:08:03Recently, Backblaze and Carahsoft, which is one of the largest privately held IT software and services companies in the world announced that we've been added to their NASPO ValuePoint contract, which eases the procurement process in government and education. Our partners also continue to help us facilitate and win deals with larger customers. Recently, the media team of 1 of the world's largest retailers needed a trusted location to hold their creative work. Their preferred reseller recommended adopting Backblaze. Our performance, ease of use and affordability won the deal. Speaker 200:08:50In addition, our sole focus is a best of breed provider for cloud storage means that this retailer doesn't need to worry about any conflict of interest. With a vendor like Amazon that obviously wouldn't be the case. Additionally, a number of meaningful partners have already joined our powered by Backblaze program, which we announced just last quarter. 1 of the most recent companies to join Powered by is Axle AI. Their new Axle AI Cloud leverages our cloud platform to deliver AI powered media search tools. Speaker 200:09:32In the broader AI space, we're seeing a growing number of partners and customers utilizing the value of B2 cloud storage for AI workflows. Since the beginning of 2023, the number of AI companies using B2 for data storage has doubled with a wide range of use cases such as wildfire management and monitoring, manufacturing optimization, satellite data analysis and much more. I'm very proud of what the team has achieved to not only reach our record financial results, but to also deliver our platform and product innovations. I believe these put us in a strong position to deliver the transformational power of Cloud 2.0. I love seeing what businesses can do after we help to free their data from legacy platforms. Speaker 200:10:30Before I hand off the call, today we announced that our CFO, Frank is planning to retire this year. A search for his successor is already underway and Frank intends to remain with us to help ensure a smooth transition to our new CFO. We're all hugely thankful for everything Frank has brought to the team, but we'll save our gratitude and celebration of his many accomplishments for his departure later this year. Until we hire and onboard his replacement, Frank will continue to help us drive great results. I'll pass the call to Frank now to review our financial results. Speaker 200:11:05Frank? Speaker 300:11:07Thank you, Gleb, and thanks everyone for joining us today. As Gleb mentioned, I'm planning to retire once we've identified my replacement and completed the onboarding process. There will be time for goodbyes when we get there, but until then it will be business as usual. And I'm happy to turn to the record business results we have to share today. As a reminder, unless otherwise noted, I will be referring to non GAAP metrics and the growth rates mentioned are year on year. Speaker 300:11:37We remain focused on 2 key metrics, revenue growth and adjusted EBITDA, which is defined in our earnings release. As Glenn mentioned, we have made significant strides in strengthening our financials from a year ago. This quarter compared to last year, we accelerated our growth rate, while expanding our adjusted gross margin, significantly improving adjusted EBITDA margins and meaningfully reducing cash usage. The tremendous strides made over the year were positively impacted by the operating leverage inherent in our business. We have continued to execute and build a strong and consistent track record as a public company. Speaker 300:12:22Our Q1 revenue totaled $30,000,000 an increase of 28% year over year versus 20% the same period last year. B2 cloud storage revenue was $14,600,000 reflecting 47% growth. Computer backup revenue totaled $15,300,000 reflecting 14% growth. Turning to our net revenue retention or NRR. Total company NRR was 112% with B2 Cloud Storage at 126% and computer backup at 101%, which continued to show quarter on quarter improvement. Speaker 300:13:03Working down the P and L, adjusted gross margin increased about 500 basis points year over year to 77%, reflecting the price increase we put in place in Q4 of last year and further operating efficiencies at our data centers. This quarter, adjusted EBITDA was a positive $1,900,000 or 6 percent of revenue, reflecting a substantial 18 points higher than the same period last year. Over the past year, we have significantly ground revenue while carefully managing expenses and increased operating efficiencies. This quarter, we also had slower headcount additions, which was offset by an increase in payroll taxes related to the recent stock price appreciation. Turning to the balance sheet, cash and short term investments, including restricted cash, totaled $32,800,000 at the end of Q1 2024 versus $33,400,000 at the end of Q4 2023, reflecting just $600,000 in cash usage. Speaker 300:14:12Even after removing the benefit of options proceeds, cash usage for the quarter was about $4,900,000 compared to $13,700,000 in Q1 of last year, an almost $9,000,000 improvement. The reduction in cash usage benefited from the price increases we put in place last quarter and operating expense discipline. Moving on to our guidance. For the 2nd quarter, we expect revenue to be in the range of $30,700,000 to $31,100,000 We expect Q2 adjusted EBITDA margin between 6% 8%. For the full year 2024, we are reiterating revenue guidance of $126,000,000 to $128,000,000 and adjusted EBITDA guidance range of 8% to 10%. Speaker 300:15:07For year end 2024, we continue to project having at least $20,000,000 in cash. So to wrap it up, we are very pleased with our Q1 performance. We had a record start to the year where we accelerated growth and continued to drive more operating leverage. I will now pass the call back to Glenn. Speaker 200:15:29Thanks, Frank. I'm proud of our record financial results and technology innovation. Thank you to our employees, customers, partners and investors for joining us on this journey as we help lead the industry shift to Cloud 2.0. I'm excited to see many of you at the Oppenheimer Conference tomorrow and the Needham and Craig Hallum Investor Conferences later this month. And with that, I'd like to open it up for questions. Speaker 200:15:55Operator? Operator00:15:57Thank you. We will now begin the question and answer session. Today's first question comes from Simon Leopold with Raymond James. Please go ahead. Speaker 400:16:27Hi, guys. This is Victor Chiu in for Simon. I wanted to follow-up on the egress fee comment that you guys made. Acknowledging that Google and AWS free egress has a number of strings attached. Do these moves at least slightly alleviate concerns from customers' primary concern was vendor lock in and maybe close the gap slightly versus that place when considering egress fees? Speaker 200:17:00Hey, Victor, this is Clive. Thanks for the question. So the short answer is no. So what they've really done is free exit, not free egress. And the thing about it is that in the past before these customers could exit the clouds and some of us as open cloud vendors would actually cover the costs of having them leave those traditional cloud providers. Speaker 200:17:29But what customers really want is to be able to actually use their data. So the barrier that they have put in place for what they're doing is you have to fully 100% stop using their platforms. That's not what these customers are trying to do. They're trying to actually use their data. And so an example I think I've shared in the prior earnings call was a customer that had previously been entirely on AWS, had some outages and wanted to use multiple cloud services to improve durability. Speaker 200:18:07They actually added back ways, made us the primary, made AWS the secondary and decreased their cost in half overall because of the because our partnership with 1 of the cloud CDNs enabled them to transfer data for free and therefore they could double their durability, decrease their overall cost in half and improve their overall infrastructure. So that's the kind of thing that the customers want. These free exit moves don't help with that at all for customers. Speaker 400:18:46Okay, got it. So the full that the kind of migration away was never really an issue anyways is kind of what you're saying. Speaker 200:18:56That's correct. Speaker 400:18:56Because okay. And I just can you give us an update? I don't know if you spoke about this in your prerecorded comments around the AI focused solutions that you mentioned last quarter that you guys are working on and then developing. Can you give us an update around that and kind of your progress around that? Speaker 200:19:21Sorry, Victor. I'm not sure about an AI solution we talked about developing, but what I'll tell you is that we're focused on helping customers with their AI use cases. Okay. And we shared some of the examples like the wildfire and example and the satellite navigation example that I mentioned on the call, just to give maybe a little more color on those. So as customers are building their AI workflows, they need a place the data itself lives, the foundational data platform for all of that information. Speaker 200:20:01And more and more customers are coming to Backblaze to have Backblaze be that foundational data platform. So I gave a couple of examples of that on the prior earnings call. In the case of our customer that does wildfire analysis, what they're trying to do is take camera footage, look at all of the potential wildfires out there and then triage them using AI and the data for all of that underlying analysis is on Backblaze. What the satellite navigation company is trying to do is help create better global navigation and they're using AI to make the models better, the foundational data platform for their AI workflows. So that's what we're doing. Speaker 200:20:56We're providing that really high performance, highly durable, highly available platform, which supports them in building these workflows because of the our support for the open cloud ecosystem. Speaker 400:21:10But didn't you mention some specific focus, I'm sorry, kind of like investment. Let me think. Yes, last quarter, you said the Head of Sales, they will turn his focus to our AI initiatives, which are aimed to help support customers in many cases. So, okay. So that's what you were referring to. Speaker 400:21:29It wasn't a specific product. Exactly. Okay, got it. Speaker 200:21:36Right. So as we bring on a new Head of Sales, our current Head of Sales, Neal A, will be stepping into the role focused on our AI initiatives. By AI initiatives, what I don't mean is product launches. What I mean is the opportunities in the AI space that we have to help customers because we do think that there are plentiful opportunities that we can help. There are many customers who are already doing it and we would like him to take on the role of really understanding how we can further help more customers with it. Speaker 400:22:11I see. So it's like a marketing initiative to help customers understand Backblaze's role in being able to accomplish those things? That's more of what you're referring to. Speaker 200:22:23It's a two sided. Yes, it's both inbound and outbound. So it's both going out and helping educate more customers and also understanding what their use cases and needs are and bring more of that insight into the organization so we can evolve with their needs. Speaker 400:22:40Got it. That's helpful. Thank you. Speaker 200:22:42Thanks, Victor. Operator00:22:43Thank you. The next question is from Zach Cummins with B. Riley Securities. Please go ahead. Speaker 500:22:51Hi. This is Ethan Waddell calling in for Zach Cummins. Thanks for taking my questions. To start, could you maybe speak a little bit to the different levers that you can possibly pull to sustain your strong growth in the B2 closet storage area? Speaker 200:23:08Sure. Happy to touch on some of those. So the first one is just go to market. We when we went public, we talked about that 80% of all of our revenue was self serve. So customers show up to the website prospects show up to the website, they enter and you want a password, they enter a credit card and they sign up and go. Speaker 200:23:28They don't ever talk to a human. And 20% was with our sales assisted motion and those customers were about 20 times bigger. And so at IPO, we said we wanted to lean into that sales motion in addition to continuing to optimize our really efficient self serve motion. So we've added resources and investment to the self serve side. We've done things like optimizing the way the website works and we continue to do that to drive more self serve business. Speaker 200:24:00And we've seen year on year growth quarter on quarter with the number of paying customers on the self serve side, we believe we continue to have opportunity for that. We also have built up the sales motion and we've done that with sales people. We've brought on some additional sales people this quarter for some of the upmarket motion and the channel side. So we've last year, we kicked off an initiative to build out our channel efforts. And so we've been starting to lean more into that. Speaker 200:24:37So the go to market motion overall is one way to drive growth. And then the other is the innovation side. So I highlighted on the call, Shard Stash, Enterprise Control, powered by and now Event Notifications, those are all innovations which help us expand into new markets, expand our opportunity with existing markets and also upsell to our existing customer base. Speaker 500:25:03Thank you. That's really helpful. And then can you speak to maybe if there's been any uptick or downtick in churn? Speaker 300:25:14Hi, this is Frank. I can speak to that. We're really pleased about the churn statistics that we've seen. We think of it as customer retention. Our customer retention, has remained at 91% overall. Speaker 300:25:29And that considers the fact that we did do a price increase in quarter 4. So it's been very, very strong. We also look at our renewal rates. Our computer backup customers are continuing to renew at very strong rates, actually a little stronger than we thought. So it's actually kicking up our deferred revenue nicely and the customer retention there is quite strong as well. Speaker 500:25:56That's good to hear. Thank you. Operator00:25:58Thank you. The next question comes from Jason Ader with William Blair. Please go ahead. Speaker 600:26:05Yes, thank you. Good afternoon, guys. Just a few questions. First, just maybe some commentary on the macro environment and how it might have changed or not since last quarter. And then just some questions for you, Frank, just on the numbers. Speaker 600:26:25So 14% growth in computer backup, what is driving that? Is that just the price increase, but it's definitely a better growth rate than what we've seen over the last four quarters? And then on this, the B2 growth rate, it's a little bit worse than what we saw last quarter and then also last year ago quarter, 49% and 47%. This quarter it was 43%. So just what's going on there? Speaker 600:26:53How come we've seen some deceleration on cloud and why we've seen some acceleration on computer backup? Speaker 200:27:04Jason, I'll start with the first piece of it and then I'll let Frank address the question. You asked him for to him directly. So on the macro side of things, we aren't seeing anything massively different. What I will say is that I think we've all seen that the Fed has kept interest rates where they are. The bulk of our focus in terms of our customer base is the small to mid market customers who are certainly sensitive to the macroeconomic environment. Speaker 200:27:39And so we're being cautious about where that's headed, but we haven't seen anything too significant one way or the other with customers. We continue to sign up We continue to sign up customers. Obviously, we had a strong quarter overall and that's driven by customers continuing to stay with us and continuing to sign up. Speaker 300:28:02Frank? I'll talk about the growth rates of the product side. So actually we're pleased with our growth rates. The first one is that in computer backup, it is 14% this quarter, which is very strong. That is due to the price increase, but it's also due to what I was referring to before, which is very high renewal rates, because remember every month we have more and more customers renewing off of their 1 year 2 year contracts. Speaker 300:28:32So those renewal rates have been particularly high. For the full year, we did see 10%. We said that and we're remaining at that amount. So we do are still thinking in that double digits. One of the things that's starting to contribute to the revenue side is B1E, which is our enterprise version. Speaker 300:28:52That is an upsell version for existing accounts. So we're seeing some uptake there already, even though it's just been introduced. And also we have some new customers coming in on B1E as well and we're very excited about that. And that enterprise is really aimed at larger companies, as we move up market. So, good things there. Speaker 300:29:17On computer backup, it's I mean, excuse me, on B2, the growth there at 47% this quarter in revenue was a bit higher than we thought. That's why we were at the top of our range. We are pleased with that. It is due to the combination of the price increase and the new business. Speaker 400:29:46But you're right, as we move through Speaker 300:29:46the year, we're saying that our total growth for the entire year will be about 40%. And the reason for that is in quarter 4, we'll be lapping our price increase. So there's a little bit less growth there's less growth there in that quarter. But overall, we do like what we see. Speaker 600:30:05Yes. Sorry, I misspoke. I meant B2 Cloud ARR growth was lower than last quarter. It was 43%, I believe, 49% last quarter and then 47% a year ago. So that's what I Speaker 300:30:18was trying to get at. Okay. I see. So ARR, it's not a great it's not a perfect predictor for our business because of the ups and downs and the calculation wobbles a bit. We calculated off of the last month of the quarter. Speaker 300:30:37So when you have a higher month because we have so much pay as you go revenue that every day is important. So it wobbles a little bit based on the calculation methodology, but we still think that our growth rates there are well above the market or the growth rates over the market. So we're we do feel good about it. Speaker 200:30:59Thank you. Operator00:31:01Thank you. The next question comes from Bruce Goldfarb with Lake Street Capital Markets. Please go ahead. Speaker 500:31:09Greg, congratulations on the great results. Thanks for taking my questions. In terms of the market segments, can you compare midsized company demand with SMB demand? Where you're seeing strength? Speaker 200:31:28It's interesting. Speaker 400:31:30Go ahead. Speaker 200:31:30Yes. It's an interesting question, Bruce, and thanks for the question. What I'll say is that we've been doing the smaller size of the mid market for a while and we have volume there, right. We have about 100,000 customers overall using B2. So we have volume there. Speaker 200:31:48On the larger end of the mid market, it's a upmarket momentum that we've been doing more recently. And so I think it's harder to gauge the kind of statistical significance of the number of deals in that part of the market, to be a strong indicator of overall market demand. I think what we are seeing is that customers in the upper market are interested in the value proposition we provide, which is part of why we decided to put more focus there. The platform provides a lot of value for a larger customer because if they have more data, they have more needs around that data and they have the opportunity to optimize their platform further by using Backblaze. So I think that whilst it's hard to draw statistical significance from what we're seeing to the broader market trends, I think we're pleased with the interest engagement that we're seeing in the upper mid market. Speaker 200:32:50And just to make sure it's clear, when we talk about moving up market, this is not Fortune 500 and the federal government. These are companies that are up to about 1,000 employees. Speaker 500:33:05Thank you. Speaker 200:33:06Is that helpful? Speaker 500:33:07Yes, that does. Thank you. And then in terms of competition, have you seen competitors, have they kept the rates stable or have they also rolled out price increases? Speaker 200:33:21So I would say that some of the competitors have rolled out price increases. A number of them have kept their rates the same. But when we talk about the same, the traditional Cloud 1.0 providers like Amazon, Google and Microsoft, their default rates are 3, 4, 5 times our rate for storage. And on top of that, they charge a lot more in transaction fees. And then on top of that, they charge egregious egress fees. Speaker 200:33:54So while they may not have raised rates, their rates are much, much higher than ours. Speaker 500:34:04Thank you. And then are you still do you still anticipate cash generation by 5? Speaker 300:34:15Yes, yes, that's right. At the end of 2024, we said that we'd have at least $20,000,000 and that we will have total cash flow breakeven or approaching that by mid-twenty 25. Speaker 500:34:32Great. Thank you. Congrats again on the results. Speaker 200:34:37Thank you. Thanks, Bruce. Operator00:34:39Thank you. I would now like to turn the call over to Mimi for some questions gathered off the line. Mimi? Speaker 100:34:46Thank you, MJ. First question is for Frank. This investor would like to know, I would really like to see dividends. Are there any in the future? Speaker 300:34:57We're not planning dividends for the foreseeable future. And the reason is that we are in a $50,000,000,000 market that's underserved in small and midsized companies. So we really are investing in our growth and we think that's best for our investors. Speaker 100:35:16The next question is for Gleb. Does Backblaze have a plan to attract younger clients like university or secondary school students granting them special fees thus then Backblaze would have them for years to come? Speaker 200:35:31So as far as keeping customers for years to come, I think it's a good point. Because of the high retention, Frank talked about 91% gross customer retention, which means customers stay with us for something like a decade. Certainly having customers join the platform is great as they stay on for a very long time. In terms of university and secondary schools, our products and platform work really well for them by default. In part, that's because on the computer backup side, it's unlimited. Speaker 200:36:01So it's just easy and they don't have to worry about it. On the B2 side, we actually provide a free tier. So they can start with a limited amount of data and just use it for free and it's very, very inexpensive to use it at their scale typically. So it's actually a great set of services specifically for their use cases as it stands. Speaker 100:36:22Next question is also for you, Gleb. Will there be any plans this year to pioneer any revolutionary strategies that will put Backblaze ahead of its competitors? Speaker 200:36:32So I think in terms of revolutionary strategies, I think one of the things we've talked about is this trend to cloud 2.0 and how we facilitate that. So I think most of the traditional competitors are still aiming for that walled garden approach. And the reality that we see is that more and more customers want to use an open cloud with best of breed providers and get all the benefits that that entails. And so that strategy and the things that we're doing to support that and they talked about event notifications, which enables customers to create automatic workflows between these different providers is a great way of helping to lead that shift. So I think that's probably the one I would mostly highlight. Speaker 200:37:22Other than that, I think as the strategies that we're pursuing are enabling us to already grow faster than the market and take market share. So I think between the go to market motions that we're doing and the product innovations that we're coming out with, I think we're well positioned to do that. Speaker 100:37:40And again, what are the most important goals for the next 12 months? Speaker 200:37:46So in terms of goals, I guess, first with financial. So financial goals, we want to continue driving revenue growth. It's like Frank said, it's a $50,000,000,000 market. We believe there's a lot of opportunities and so driving revenue growth is key. The second part is continuing to drive efficiency and that's reflected in our positive EBITDA growth. Speaker 200:38:07And the 3rd financial one is driving towards that total cash flow positive stature so that the business is just running on its own steam. So that's on the financial side. On the business side, continue to drive that up market growth. So with the new sales executives that we've hired in Q1 with a new head of sales that we're in the process of hiring right now, driving that up market growth. The second is continuing to drive the overall go to market motion and the channel motion. Speaker 200:38:41And then the last one is really taking those innovations that we shipped and getting them into the hands of more and more customers. I think those are probably the main ones that I would like to highlight. Speaker 100:38:56The next question we have is a follow-up from last quarter. Last quarter, my question received an incorrect answer. Backblaze cannot backup files synced by OneDrive due to reparse point flags assigned by Microsoft. Will Backblaze develop a solution such as a B2 integration to backup OneDrive cloud to cloud? Or are we left with the safe versus synced files? Speaker 200:39:20So that's probably a nuanced question for an investor call, but I very much appreciate both the person asking the question being a customer, that's key for us and for digging in as well. So what I'll say is we don't have on our roadmap a plan to develop 1 cloud drive integration directly. We do have partners that do that and we would love for you to use one of our partner products along with B2. It's part of the whole open cloud approach that we're working toward is supporting a broad ecosystem of partners with our B2 cloud storage. The computer backup service itself, which sounds like the one that you're primarily using, the computer backup service is really designed to back up all of the data on the laptops and desktops that customers are using, so people can just sleep peacefully at night, that those machines and the data on them are protected. Speaker 200:40:21B2 with our partner ecosystem supports all of the potential other use cases. Speaker 100:40:28Next question for Glove. Do ongoing developments in AI present any opportunities for Backblaze? Speaker 200:40:35So I think I touched on that a little bit earlier. But yes, the short answer is I think that AI is a multi year, possibly multi decade opportunity for Back Boys. When you're working with AI use cases, you're working with a lot of data and analysis and use of that data. You need somewhere to put that data where it is durable, where it's available, where it's performant and where you can afford to do that. And then you want to use that data with all of the myriad other best of breed services being developed for AI and there's a variety of them constantly coming out every single day. Speaker 200:41:16And so by being a leader in the open cloud movement and providing a great storage platform, I think we have a great opportunity to do that. I'll mention also another company that I talked with recently, they're in the process of coming out with a service to that's going to create video AI videos at scale. They're talking to us about leveraging the Backvoice platform because it provides efficiency, connectivity within CDN providers that it would distribute that video to. I talked about another customer with 1 of our folks this morning that they do web scale data analysis for an AI company and they're leveraging Backblaze as the underlying foundational platform for all of that data that they're capturing. So I think that the number of use cases opportunities here are just endless. Speaker 100:42:15Next question is, what is the decision threshold to compete for larger clients, meaning companies above 1,000 employees? Speaker 200:42:24So we absolutely have customers that are above 1,000 employees. Our target that we focus on is customers below that in large part because we think it's the most underserved part of the market where we can have a good velocity of solving and addressing many of their many of those customers' needs. Having said that, we do help customers larger than that, particularly ones that have a lot of data and use cases that are well suited to an easy to use affordable storage platform. We don't actively try to compete for the Fortune 500 companies or the federal government because of the complexity of the features and functionality that they need, which are not those same features and functionality that the mass market of mid market companies need. So we believe we're really well suited for customers below 1,000. Speaker 200:43:27We are well suited for many of the customers above 1,000 and we will work to address to solve those customers' needs when it's a good fit. Speaker 100:43:39And at what point is the risk of hiring more sales and customer relations staff worth the reward? Speaker 200:43:45So I mentioned that in Q1, we actually hired a number of new account executives on the sales team, specifically because we see the opportunity of closing more upmarket deals with additional people. So we're constantly evaluating our go to market motions and determining what's working and what can be improved. In general, that evaluation is what drives when we invest further in those areas. Speaker 100:44:22And this is our final question. As a software engineer, Backblaze's D2 API was much more difficult to integrate than I would expect from a company that boasts the simplicity of its developer experience. What are Backblaze's plans to improve developer experience and make B2 adoption by the average developer easy? Speaker 200:44:40So first of all, I'll say again, thank you for being a customer and thank you for integrating with our platform. I love it. I am surprised that We have it sounds like you may have been using the prior B2 API. We have since also introduced an S3 compatible API, so that it is a drop in replacement for any service that is compatible with Amazon's S3 offering. We've also created a whole new docs section on our website that we launched mid last year, which has been very popular and provides examples and samples of code snippets and more. Speaker 200:45:27And what I'll say is that, we also would love feedback. So if you have feedback on what that experience was, what you would like to see different, please e mail productfeedbackbackblades.com and we would love to hear it. Speaker 100:45:45As the final question, I'm going to hand the call back to MJ. MJ? Operator00:45:50Thank you, Mimi. At this time, we don't have any more questions in our queue. And this will conclude our question and answer session. So I'd like to turn the call back over to Glenn Budman for closing remarks. Speaker 200:46:04I want to say thank you to everybody for joining the call. Thank you for hearing about our quarter and innovations that we had there. And we will look forward to seeing some of you at the conference tomorrow and next month and the rest of you on this call next quarter. Thank you so much. Operator00:46:22The conference has now concluded. Thank you for attending today's presentation. 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There are 7 speakers on the call. Operator00:00:00As a reminder, this conference is being recorded. I would now like to hand the call to Mimi Kong, Director of Investor Relations and Corporate Development. Please go ahead. Speaker 100:00:12Thank you. Good afternoon, and welcome to Backblaze's Q1 2024 Earnings Call. On the call with me today are Glenn Budman, Co Founder, CEO and Chairperson of the Board and Frank Patchell, Chief Financial Officer. Today, Vasiles will discuss the financial results that were distributed earlier this afternoon. Statements on this call include forward looking statements about our future financial results, use of our IPO proceeds, results from new features and offerings, the impact of price changes, partnerships and sales and marketing initiatives, our ability to compete effectively and manage our growth and our strategy to acquire new customers and retain and expand our business with existing customers. Speaker 100:00:58These statements are subject to risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results to differ materially, including those described in our risk factors that are included in our annual report on Form 10 ks and our other financial filings. You should not rely on our forward looking statements as predictions of future events. All forward looking statements that we make on this call are based on assumptions and beliefs as of today, and we undertake no obligation to update them except as required by law. Our discussion today will include non GAAP financial measures. These non GAAP measures should be considered in addition to and not as a substitute for our GAAP results. Speaker 100:01:39Reconciliation of GAAP to non GAAP results may be found in our earnings release, which was furnished with our Form 8 ks filed today with the SEC. You can also find a slide presentation related to our comments in the webcast, which will also be posted to our Investor Relations page after the call. Please also see our press release or presentation for definitions of additional metrics such as NRR and gross customer retention rate. Before I turn the call over to Gleb, I'd also like to mention that in the latter portion of our call, as in prior calls, we will be addressing questions from investors that we gathered through the SAi Technologies platform. Thank you for joining us. Speaker 100:02:21And I would now like to turn the call over to Gleb. Speaker 200:02:24Thanks, Mimi. Good afternoon, everyone, and thank you for joining us today. We had a record start across our key financial metrics. This quarter, revenue grew at 28%, 8 percentage points better than last year. We achieved an adjusted EBITDA margin of positive 6% versus negative 12% a year ago. Speaker 200:02:46And finally, cash usage this quarter was only $600,000 a dramatic improvement from the $13,000,000 of cash used this same period last year. Not only have we delivered accelerated business growth and improved efficiency, but we have also delivered product innovations that serve our mission of supporting customers and partners with the best storage cloud. Before diving into our business results, I want to speak to a customer trend that we're already benefiting from today and which we see accelerating. A few months ago, we conducted a survey of more than 400 IT decision makers. A majority of the respondents indicated that they prefer to choose from best of breed solutions when selecting vendors. Speaker 200:03:31And yet the cloud landscape has been historically defined by Cloud 1.0, where a few diversified cloud providers aim to lock customers into their platforms and take away customer choice. You may have heard that Google Cloud, AWS and Azure recently announced free egress for their customers. They may have done this to mollify regulators because the Cloud 1.0 model is a walled garden by design, but this move does not at all address what customers actually want because it only applies to customers who leave those platforms completely. What customers really want is to freely use their data with multiple cloud services. These fake free egress announcements are only free exit, not free egress and underscore that Cloud 1.0 just doesn't work that way. Speaker 200:04:32Businesses want Cloud 2.0, an open cloud ecosystem where businesses can use their data wherever and however they want to. It's better for them, better for innovation and ultimately better for the broader economy. And Backblaze is built for Cloud 2.0. First, our egress is actually free, allowing customers to use their data without fear of crippling bills or limits on who they work with. 2nd, we have a robust partner ecosystem, which gives customers easy access to the best of breed platforms they need. Speaker 200:05:133rd, we provide a trusted durable platform that provides strong performance. And last, we continue to deliver innovations that support customers in using the best of breed services they want. A great example of this last point is our newest innovation called Event Notifications. Event Notifications gives customers the ability to build automated workflows across different best of breed cloud providers. For example, a customer can upload a video to B2 cloud storage and event notifications will automatically trigger a compute process at another provider that prepares the file for streaming. Speaker 200:06:00Currently, similar offerings in the market only trigger actions within one platform or require complex and restrictive workarounds to work with other providers. We designed event notifications to be platform agnostic, empowering customers to build workflows from the services they want, cutting out significant inefficiencies and costs in the process. The product launched in private preview just 3 weeks ago and we already have over 100 organizations that have requested to join the early release. Event notifications was also recognized as product of the year for cloud computing and storage at the National Association of Broadcasters Conference, a major trade show for the media and entertainment industry. I'm very encouraged by the early reception and the potential for our services to become increasingly strategic for our customers. Speaker 200:06:59Including event notifications, Backblaze has announced 4 major releases over the past 6 months from the Shard Stash performance upgrade to enterprise control for business backup to our powered by Backblades program, I am proud of our team for delivering features that differentiate us and strategically position us as the de facto cloud storage provider for the open cloud. In Q1, we also made significant progress in our compliance and security programs, including StateRamp and the Motion Picture Association's trusted partner network. Focusing on compliance and security is another key element in our effort to make our services as easy to adopt as possible. In this case, for the state and local government and educational industries and the media and entertainment industry. At the same time, we continue to expand and enrich our partner network. Speaker 200:08:03Recently, Backblaze and Carahsoft, which is one of the largest privately held IT software and services companies in the world announced that we've been added to their NASPO ValuePoint contract, which eases the procurement process in government and education. Our partners also continue to help us facilitate and win deals with larger customers. Recently, the media team of 1 of the world's largest retailers needed a trusted location to hold their creative work. Their preferred reseller recommended adopting Backblaze. Our performance, ease of use and affordability won the deal. Speaker 200:08:50In addition, our sole focus is a best of breed provider for cloud storage means that this retailer doesn't need to worry about any conflict of interest. With a vendor like Amazon that obviously wouldn't be the case. Additionally, a number of meaningful partners have already joined our powered by Backblaze program, which we announced just last quarter. 1 of the most recent companies to join Powered by is Axle AI. Their new Axle AI Cloud leverages our cloud platform to deliver AI powered media search tools. Speaker 200:09:32In the broader AI space, we're seeing a growing number of partners and customers utilizing the value of B2 cloud storage for AI workflows. Since the beginning of 2023, the number of AI companies using B2 for data storage has doubled with a wide range of use cases such as wildfire management and monitoring, manufacturing optimization, satellite data analysis and much more. I'm very proud of what the team has achieved to not only reach our record financial results, but to also deliver our platform and product innovations. I believe these put us in a strong position to deliver the transformational power of Cloud 2.0. I love seeing what businesses can do after we help to free their data from legacy platforms. Speaker 200:10:30Before I hand off the call, today we announced that our CFO, Frank is planning to retire this year. A search for his successor is already underway and Frank intends to remain with us to help ensure a smooth transition to our new CFO. We're all hugely thankful for everything Frank has brought to the team, but we'll save our gratitude and celebration of his many accomplishments for his departure later this year. Until we hire and onboard his replacement, Frank will continue to help us drive great results. I'll pass the call to Frank now to review our financial results. Speaker 200:11:05Frank? Speaker 300:11:07Thank you, Gleb, and thanks everyone for joining us today. As Gleb mentioned, I'm planning to retire once we've identified my replacement and completed the onboarding process. There will be time for goodbyes when we get there, but until then it will be business as usual. And I'm happy to turn to the record business results we have to share today. As a reminder, unless otherwise noted, I will be referring to non GAAP metrics and the growth rates mentioned are year on year. Speaker 300:11:37We remain focused on 2 key metrics, revenue growth and adjusted EBITDA, which is defined in our earnings release. As Glenn mentioned, we have made significant strides in strengthening our financials from a year ago. This quarter compared to last year, we accelerated our growth rate, while expanding our adjusted gross margin, significantly improving adjusted EBITDA margins and meaningfully reducing cash usage. The tremendous strides made over the year were positively impacted by the operating leverage inherent in our business. We have continued to execute and build a strong and consistent track record as a public company. Speaker 300:12:22Our Q1 revenue totaled $30,000,000 an increase of 28% year over year versus 20% the same period last year. B2 cloud storage revenue was $14,600,000 reflecting 47% growth. Computer backup revenue totaled $15,300,000 reflecting 14% growth. Turning to our net revenue retention or NRR. Total company NRR was 112% with B2 Cloud Storage at 126% and computer backup at 101%, which continued to show quarter on quarter improvement. Speaker 300:13:03Working down the P and L, adjusted gross margin increased about 500 basis points year over year to 77%, reflecting the price increase we put in place in Q4 of last year and further operating efficiencies at our data centers. This quarter, adjusted EBITDA was a positive $1,900,000 or 6 percent of revenue, reflecting a substantial 18 points higher than the same period last year. Over the past year, we have significantly ground revenue while carefully managing expenses and increased operating efficiencies. This quarter, we also had slower headcount additions, which was offset by an increase in payroll taxes related to the recent stock price appreciation. Turning to the balance sheet, cash and short term investments, including restricted cash, totaled $32,800,000 at the end of Q1 2024 versus $33,400,000 at the end of Q4 2023, reflecting just $600,000 in cash usage. Speaker 300:14:12Even after removing the benefit of options proceeds, cash usage for the quarter was about $4,900,000 compared to $13,700,000 in Q1 of last year, an almost $9,000,000 improvement. The reduction in cash usage benefited from the price increases we put in place last quarter and operating expense discipline. Moving on to our guidance. For the 2nd quarter, we expect revenue to be in the range of $30,700,000 to $31,100,000 We expect Q2 adjusted EBITDA margin between 6% 8%. For the full year 2024, we are reiterating revenue guidance of $126,000,000 to $128,000,000 and adjusted EBITDA guidance range of 8% to 10%. Speaker 300:15:07For year end 2024, we continue to project having at least $20,000,000 in cash. So to wrap it up, we are very pleased with our Q1 performance. We had a record start to the year where we accelerated growth and continued to drive more operating leverage. I will now pass the call back to Glenn. Speaker 200:15:29Thanks, Frank. I'm proud of our record financial results and technology innovation. Thank you to our employees, customers, partners and investors for joining us on this journey as we help lead the industry shift to Cloud 2.0. I'm excited to see many of you at the Oppenheimer Conference tomorrow and the Needham and Craig Hallum Investor Conferences later this month. And with that, I'd like to open it up for questions. Speaker 200:15:55Operator? Operator00:15:57Thank you. We will now begin the question and answer session. Today's first question comes from Simon Leopold with Raymond James. Please go ahead. Speaker 400:16:27Hi, guys. This is Victor Chiu in for Simon. I wanted to follow-up on the egress fee comment that you guys made. Acknowledging that Google and AWS free egress has a number of strings attached. Do these moves at least slightly alleviate concerns from customers' primary concern was vendor lock in and maybe close the gap slightly versus that place when considering egress fees? Speaker 200:17:00Hey, Victor, this is Clive. Thanks for the question. So the short answer is no. So what they've really done is free exit, not free egress. And the thing about it is that in the past before these customers could exit the clouds and some of us as open cloud vendors would actually cover the costs of having them leave those traditional cloud providers. Speaker 200:17:29But what customers really want is to be able to actually use their data. So the barrier that they have put in place for what they're doing is you have to fully 100% stop using their platforms. That's not what these customers are trying to do. They're trying to actually use their data. And so an example I think I've shared in the prior earnings call was a customer that had previously been entirely on AWS, had some outages and wanted to use multiple cloud services to improve durability. Speaker 200:18:07They actually added back ways, made us the primary, made AWS the secondary and decreased their cost in half overall because of the because our partnership with 1 of the cloud CDNs enabled them to transfer data for free and therefore they could double their durability, decrease their overall cost in half and improve their overall infrastructure. So that's the kind of thing that the customers want. These free exit moves don't help with that at all for customers. Speaker 400:18:46Okay, got it. So the full that the kind of migration away was never really an issue anyways is kind of what you're saying. Speaker 200:18:56That's correct. Speaker 400:18:56Because okay. And I just can you give us an update? I don't know if you spoke about this in your prerecorded comments around the AI focused solutions that you mentioned last quarter that you guys are working on and then developing. Can you give us an update around that and kind of your progress around that? Speaker 200:19:21Sorry, Victor. I'm not sure about an AI solution we talked about developing, but what I'll tell you is that we're focused on helping customers with their AI use cases. Okay. And we shared some of the examples like the wildfire and example and the satellite navigation example that I mentioned on the call, just to give maybe a little more color on those. So as customers are building their AI workflows, they need a place the data itself lives, the foundational data platform for all of that information. Speaker 200:20:01And more and more customers are coming to Backblaze to have Backblaze be that foundational data platform. So I gave a couple of examples of that on the prior earnings call. In the case of our customer that does wildfire analysis, what they're trying to do is take camera footage, look at all of the potential wildfires out there and then triage them using AI and the data for all of that underlying analysis is on Backblaze. What the satellite navigation company is trying to do is help create better global navigation and they're using AI to make the models better, the foundational data platform for their AI workflows. So that's what we're doing. Speaker 200:20:56We're providing that really high performance, highly durable, highly available platform, which supports them in building these workflows because of the our support for the open cloud ecosystem. Speaker 400:21:10But didn't you mention some specific focus, I'm sorry, kind of like investment. Let me think. Yes, last quarter, you said the Head of Sales, they will turn his focus to our AI initiatives, which are aimed to help support customers in many cases. So, okay. So that's what you were referring to. Speaker 400:21:29It wasn't a specific product. Exactly. Okay, got it. Speaker 200:21:36Right. So as we bring on a new Head of Sales, our current Head of Sales, Neal A, will be stepping into the role focused on our AI initiatives. By AI initiatives, what I don't mean is product launches. What I mean is the opportunities in the AI space that we have to help customers because we do think that there are plentiful opportunities that we can help. There are many customers who are already doing it and we would like him to take on the role of really understanding how we can further help more customers with it. Speaker 400:22:11I see. So it's like a marketing initiative to help customers understand Backblaze's role in being able to accomplish those things? That's more of what you're referring to. Speaker 200:22:23It's a two sided. Yes, it's both inbound and outbound. So it's both going out and helping educate more customers and also understanding what their use cases and needs are and bring more of that insight into the organization so we can evolve with their needs. Speaker 400:22:40Got it. That's helpful. Thank you. Speaker 200:22:42Thanks, Victor. Operator00:22:43Thank you. The next question is from Zach Cummins with B. Riley Securities. Please go ahead. Speaker 500:22:51Hi. This is Ethan Waddell calling in for Zach Cummins. Thanks for taking my questions. To start, could you maybe speak a little bit to the different levers that you can possibly pull to sustain your strong growth in the B2 closet storage area? Speaker 200:23:08Sure. Happy to touch on some of those. So the first one is just go to market. We when we went public, we talked about that 80% of all of our revenue was self serve. So customers show up to the website prospects show up to the website, they enter and you want a password, they enter a credit card and they sign up and go. Speaker 200:23:28They don't ever talk to a human. And 20% was with our sales assisted motion and those customers were about 20 times bigger. And so at IPO, we said we wanted to lean into that sales motion in addition to continuing to optimize our really efficient self serve motion. So we've added resources and investment to the self serve side. We've done things like optimizing the way the website works and we continue to do that to drive more self serve business. Speaker 200:24:00And we've seen year on year growth quarter on quarter with the number of paying customers on the self serve side, we believe we continue to have opportunity for that. We also have built up the sales motion and we've done that with sales people. We've brought on some additional sales people this quarter for some of the upmarket motion and the channel side. So we've last year, we kicked off an initiative to build out our channel efforts. And so we've been starting to lean more into that. Speaker 200:24:37So the go to market motion overall is one way to drive growth. And then the other is the innovation side. So I highlighted on the call, Shard Stash, Enterprise Control, powered by and now Event Notifications, those are all innovations which help us expand into new markets, expand our opportunity with existing markets and also upsell to our existing customer base. Speaker 500:25:03Thank you. That's really helpful. And then can you speak to maybe if there's been any uptick or downtick in churn? Speaker 300:25:14Hi, this is Frank. I can speak to that. We're really pleased about the churn statistics that we've seen. We think of it as customer retention. Our customer retention, has remained at 91% overall. Speaker 300:25:29And that considers the fact that we did do a price increase in quarter 4. So it's been very, very strong. We also look at our renewal rates. Our computer backup customers are continuing to renew at very strong rates, actually a little stronger than we thought. So it's actually kicking up our deferred revenue nicely and the customer retention there is quite strong as well. Speaker 500:25:56That's good to hear. Thank you. Operator00:25:58Thank you. The next question comes from Jason Ader with William Blair. Please go ahead. Speaker 600:26:05Yes, thank you. Good afternoon, guys. Just a few questions. First, just maybe some commentary on the macro environment and how it might have changed or not since last quarter. And then just some questions for you, Frank, just on the numbers. Speaker 600:26:25So 14% growth in computer backup, what is driving that? Is that just the price increase, but it's definitely a better growth rate than what we've seen over the last four quarters? And then on this, the B2 growth rate, it's a little bit worse than what we saw last quarter and then also last year ago quarter, 49% and 47%. This quarter it was 43%. So just what's going on there? Speaker 600:26:53How come we've seen some deceleration on cloud and why we've seen some acceleration on computer backup? Speaker 200:27:04Jason, I'll start with the first piece of it and then I'll let Frank address the question. You asked him for to him directly. So on the macro side of things, we aren't seeing anything massively different. What I will say is that I think we've all seen that the Fed has kept interest rates where they are. The bulk of our focus in terms of our customer base is the small to mid market customers who are certainly sensitive to the macroeconomic environment. Speaker 200:27:39And so we're being cautious about where that's headed, but we haven't seen anything too significant one way or the other with customers. We continue to sign up We continue to sign up customers. Obviously, we had a strong quarter overall and that's driven by customers continuing to stay with us and continuing to sign up. Speaker 300:28:02Frank? I'll talk about the growth rates of the product side. So actually we're pleased with our growth rates. The first one is that in computer backup, it is 14% this quarter, which is very strong. That is due to the price increase, but it's also due to what I was referring to before, which is very high renewal rates, because remember every month we have more and more customers renewing off of their 1 year 2 year contracts. Speaker 300:28:32So those renewal rates have been particularly high. For the full year, we did see 10%. We said that and we're remaining at that amount. So we do are still thinking in that double digits. One of the things that's starting to contribute to the revenue side is B1E, which is our enterprise version. Speaker 300:28:52That is an upsell version for existing accounts. So we're seeing some uptake there already, even though it's just been introduced. And also we have some new customers coming in on B1E as well and we're very excited about that. And that enterprise is really aimed at larger companies, as we move up market. So, good things there. Speaker 300:29:17On computer backup, it's I mean, excuse me, on B2, the growth there at 47% this quarter in revenue was a bit higher than we thought. That's why we were at the top of our range. We are pleased with that. It is due to the combination of the price increase and the new business. Speaker 400:29:46But you're right, as we move through Speaker 300:29:46the year, we're saying that our total growth for the entire year will be about 40%. And the reason for that is in quarter 4, we'll be lapping our price increase. So there's a little bit less growth there's less growth there in that quarter. But overall, we do like what we see. Speaker 600:30:05Yes. Sorry, I misspoke. I meant B2 Cloud ARR growth was lower than last quarter. It was 43%, I believe, 49% last quarter and then 47% a year ago. So that's what I Speaker 300:30:18was trying to get at. Okay. I see. So ARR, it's not a great it's not a perfect predictor for our business because of the ups and downs and the calculation wobbles a bit. We calculated off of the last month of the quarter. Speaker 300:30:37So when you have a higher month because we have so much pay as you go revenue that every day is important. So it wobbles a little bit based on the calculation methodology, but we still think that our growth rates there are well above the market or the growth rates over the market. So we're we do feel good about it. Speaker 200:30:59Thank you. Operator00:31:01Thank you. The next question comes from Bruce Goldfarb with Lake Street Capital Markets. Please go ahead. Speaker 500:31:09Greg, congratulations on the great results. Thanks for taking my questions. In terms of the market segments, can you compare midsized company demand with SMB demand? Where you're seeing strength? Speaker 200:31:28It's interesting. Speaker 400:31:30Go ahead. Speaker 200:31:30Yes. It's an interesting question, Bruce, and thanks for the question. What I'll say is that we've been doing the smaller size of the mid market for a while and we have volume there, right. We have about 100,000 customers overall using B2. So we have volume there. Speaker 200:31:48On the larger end of the mid market, it's a upmarket momentum that we've been doing more recently. And so I think it's harder to gauge the kind of statistical significance of the number of deals in that part of the market, to be a strong indicator of overall market demand. I think what we are seeing is that customers in the upper market are interested in the value proposition we provide, which is part of why we decided to put more focus there. The platform provides a lot of value for a larger customer because if they have more data, they have more needs around that data and they have the opportunity to optimize their platform further by using Backblaze. So I think that whilst it's hard to draw statistical significance from what we're seeing to the broader market trends, I think we're pleased with the interest engagement that we're seeing in the upper mid market. Speaker 200:32:50And just to make sure it's clear, when we talk about moving up market, this is not Fortune 500 and the federal government. These are companies that are up to about 1,000 employees. Speaker 500:33:05Thank you. Speaker 200:33:06Is that helpful? Speaker 500:33:07Yes, that does. Thank you. And then in terms of competition, have you seen competitors, have they kept the rates stable or have they also rolled out price increases? Speaker 200:33:21So I would say that some of the competitors have rolled out price increases. A number of them have kept their rates the same. But when we talk about the same, the traditional Cloud 1.0 providers like Amazon, Google and Microsoft, their default rates are 3, 4, 5 times our rate for storage. And on top of that, they charge a lot more in transaction fees. And then on top of that, they charge egregious egress fees. Speaker 200:33:54So while they may not have raised rates, their rates are much, much higher than ours. Speaker 500:34:04Thank you. And then are you still do you still anticipate cash generation by 5? Speaker 300:34:15Yes, yes, that's right. At the end of 2024, we said that we'd have at least $20,000,000 and that we will have total cash flow breakeven or approaching that by mid-twenty 25. Speaker 500:34:32Great. Thank you. Congrats again on the results. Speaker 200:34:37Thank you. Thanks, Bruce. Operator00:34:39Thank you. I would now like to turn the call over to Mimi for some questions gathered off the line. Mimi? Speaker 100:34:46Thank you, MJ. First question is for Frank. This investor would like to know, I would really like to see dividends. Are there any in the future? Speaker 300:34:57We're not planning dividends for the foreseeable future. And the reason is that we are in a $50,000,000,000 market that's underserved in small and midsized companies. So we really are investing in our growth and we think that's best for our investors. Speaker 100:35:16The next question is for Gleb. Does Backblaze have a plan to attract younger clients like university or secondary school students granting them special fees thus then Backblaze would have them for years to come? Speaker 200:35:31So as far as keeping customers for years to come, I think it's a good point. Because of the high retention, Frank talked about 91% gross customer retention, which means customers stay with us for something like a decade. Certainly having customers join the platform is great as they stay on for a very long time. In terms of university and secondary schools, our products and platform work really well for them by default. In part, that's because on the computer backup side, it's unlimited. Speaker 200:36:01So it's just easy and they don't have to worry about it. On the B2 side, we actually provide a free tier. So they can start with a limited amount of data and just use it for free and it's very, very inexpensive to use it at their scale typically. So it's actually a great set of services specifically for their use cases as it stands. Speaker 100:36:22Next question is also for you, Gleb. Will there be any plans this year to pioneer any revolutionary strategies that will put Backblaze ahead of its competitors? Speaker 200:36:32So I think in terms of revolutionary strategies, I think one of the things we've talked about is this trend to cloud 2.0 and how we facilitate that. So I think most of the traditional competitors are still aiming for that walled garden approach. And the reality that we see is that more and more customers want to use an open cloud with best of breed providers and get all the benefits that that entails. And so that strategy and the things that we're doing to support that and they talked about event notifications, which enables customers to create automatic workflows between these different providers is a great way of helping to lead that shift. So I think that's probably the one I would mostly highlight. Speaker 200:37:22Other than that, I think as the strategies that we're pursuing are enabling us to already grow faster than the market and take market share. So I think between the go to market motions that we're doing and the product innovations that we're coming out with, I think we're well positioned to do that. Speaker 100:37:40And again, what are the most important goals for the next 12 months? Speaker 200:37:46So in terms of goals, I guess, first with financial. So financial goals, we want to continue driving revenue growth. It's like Frank said, it's a $50,000,000,000 market. We believe there's a lot of opportunities and so driving revenue growth is key. The second part is continuing to drive efficiency and that's reflected in our positive EBITDA growth. Speaker 200:38:07And the 3rd financial one is driving towards that total cash flow positive stature so that the business is just running on its own steam. So that's on the financial side. On the business side, continue to drive that up market growth. So with the new sales executives that we've hired in Q1 with a new head of sales that we're in the process of hiring right now, driving that up market growth. The second is continuing to drive the overall go to market motion and the channel motion. Speaker 200:38:41And then the last one is really taking those innovations that we shipped and getting them into the hands of more and more customers. I think those are probably the main ones that I would like to highlight. Speaker 100:38:56The next question we have is a follow-up from last quarter. Last quarter, my question received an incorrect answer. Backblaze cannot backup files synced by OneDrive due to reparse point flags assigned by Microsoft. Will Backblaze develop a solution such as a B2 integration to backup OneDrive cloud to cloud? Or are we left with the safe versus synced files? Speaker 200:39:20So that's probably a nuanced question for an investor call, but I very much appreciate both the person asking the question being a customer, that's key for us and for digging in as well. So what I'll say is we don't have on our roadmap a plan to develop 1 cloud drive integration directly. We do have partners that do that and we would love for you to use one of our partner products along with B2. It's part of the whole open cloud approach that we're working toward is supporting a broad ecosystem of partners with our B2 cloud storage. The computer backup service itself, which sounds like the one that you're primarily using, the computer backup service is really designed to back up all of the data on the laptops and desktops that customers are using, so people can just sleep peacefully at night, that those machines and the data on them are protected. Speaker 200:40:21B2 with our partner ecosystem supports all of the potential other use cases. Speaker 100:40:28Next question for Glove. Do ongoing developments in AI present any opportunities for Backblaze? Speaker 200:40:35So I think I touched on that a little bit earlier. But yes, the short answer is I think that AI is a multi year, possibly multi decade opportunity for Back Boys. When you're working with AI use cases, you're working with a lot of data and analysis and use of that data. You need somewhere to put that data where it is durable, where it's available, where it's performant and where you can afford to do that. And then you want to use that data with all of the myriad other best of breed services being developed for AI and there's a variety of them constantly coming out every single day. Speaker 200:41:16And so by being a leader in the open cloud movement and providing a great storage platform, I think we have a great opportunity to do that. I'll mention also another company that I talked with recently, they're in the process of coming out with a service to that's going to create video AI videos at scale. They're talking to us about leveraging the Backvoice platform because it provides efficiency, connectivity within CDN providers that it would distribute that video to. I talked about another customer with 1 of our folks this morning that they do web scale data analysis for an AI company and they're leveraging Backblaze as the underlying foundational platform for all of that data that they're capturing. So I think that the number of use cases opportunities here are just endless. Speaker 100:42:15Next question is, what is the decision threshold to compete for larger clients, meaning companies above 1,000 employees? Speaker 200:42:24So we absolutely have customers that are above 1,000 employees. Our target that we focus on is customers below that in large part because we think it's the most underserved part of the market where we can have a good velocity of solving and addressing many of their many of those customers' needs. Having said that, we do help customers larger than that, particularly ones that have a lot of data and use cases that are well suited to an easy to use affordable storage platform. We don't actively try to compete for the Fortune 500 companies or the federal government because of the complexity of the features and functionality that they need, which are not those same features and functionality that the mass market of mid market companies need. So we believe we're really well suited for customers below 1,000. Speaker 200:43:27We are well suited for many of the customers above 1,000 and we will work to address to solve those customers' needs when it's a good fit. Speaker 100:43:39And at what point is the risk of hiring more sales and customer relations staff worth the reward? Speaker 200:43:45So I mentioned that in Q1, we actually hired a number of new account executives on the sales team, specifically because we see the opportunity of closing more upmarket deals with additional people. So we're constantly evaluating our go to market motions and determining what's working and what can be improved. In general, that evaluation is what drives when we invest further in those areas. Speaker 100:44:22And this is our final question. As a software engineer, Backblaze's D2 API was much more difficult to integrate than I would expect from a company that boasts the simplicity of its developer experience. What are Backblaze's plans to improve developer experience and make B2 adoption by the average developer easy? Speaker 200:44:40So first of all, I'll say again, thank you for being a customer and thank you for integrating with our platform. I love it. I am surprised that We have it sounds like you may have been using the prior B2 API. We have since also introduced an S3 compatible API, so that it is a drop in replacement for any service that is compatible with Amazon's S3 offering. We've also created a whole new docs section on our website that we launched mid last year, which has been very popular and provides examples and samples of code snippets and more. Speaker 200:45:27And what I'll say is that, we also would love feedback. So if you have feedback on what that experience was, what you would like to see different, please e mail productfeedbackbackblades.com and we would love to hear it. Speaker 100:45:45As the final question, I'm going to hand the call back to MJ. MJ? Operator00:45:50Thank you, Mimi. At this time, we don't have any more questions in our queue. And this will conclude our question and answer session. So I'd like to turn the call back over to Glenn Budman for closing remarks. Speaker 200:46:04I want to say thank you to everybody for joining the call. Thank you for hearing about our quarter and innovations that we had there. And we will look forward to seeing some of you at the conference tomorrow and next month and the rest of you on this call next quarter. Thank you so much. Operator00:46:22The conference has now concluded. Thank you for attending today's presentation. 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