Relmada Therapeutics Q1 2024 Earnings Call Transcript

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May 8, 2024

There are 9 speakers on the call.

Operator

Good afternoon, ladies and gentlemen, and welcome to the RalMada Therapeutics, Inc. 1st Quarter 2024 Financial Results Conference Call. Call is being recorded on Wednesday, May 8, 2024. I would now like to turn the conference over to Tim McCarthy, LifeSci Advisors. Please go ahead.

Speaker 1

Thank you, Colin, and thank you all for joining us this afternoon. With me on today's call are Chief Executive Officer, Sergio Traverza and Chief Financial Officer, Magda Shanuta. This afternoon, Ramada issued a press release providing a business update announcing financial results for the 3 months ended March 31, 2024. Please note that certain information discussed on the call today is covered under the Safe Harbor's provision of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act. We caution listeners that during this call, Ramada's management team will be making forward looking statements.

Speaker 1

Actual results could differ materially from those stated or implied by these forward looking statements due to risks and uncertainties associated with the company's business. These forward looking statements are qualified by the cautionary statements contained in RealMada's press release issued today and the company's SEC filings, including in the annual report on Form 10 ks for the year ended December 31, 2023, and subsequent filings. This conference call also contains time sensitive information that is accurate only as of the date of this live broadcast, May 8, 2024. Ramada undertakes no obligation to revise or update any forward looking statements to reflect events or circumstances after the date of this conference call. Now I would like to turn the call over to Sergio.

Speaker 1

Sergio?

Speaker 2

Thank you, Tim, as always, and good afternoon to everyone, and welcome to the Ramada Q1 2024 Conference Call. We continue to achieve meaningful progress in the advancement of our ongoing Phase III program for rel1017 in major depressive disorder, MDD, as well as in the promising preclinical novel psilocybin program, all of which I will briefly cover today. Following this, Magit will review our Q1 2024 financial results and then we will take your questions. Let's begin with an update on the late stage Phase III program for rel=ten seventeen. As a reminder, Ramada is focused on developing REL1017 as an adjunctive treatment for MDD.

Speaker 2

We previously executed important revision to RELIANCE 2, the ongoing Study 302, which is a Phase 3, 2 arm placebo controlled pivotal study evaluating rel1017, 25 milligrams for adjunctive MDD. These modifications were aimed at controlling placebo response and improving the profile of patients enrolled. The amended Study 302 protocol has been implemented across all of our clinical sites. Enrollment continues to advance and our ability to leverage our close relationship with the study sites continue to play a critical role. Moreover, the ongoing initiative we put in place to drive trial awareness with prospective patients are also generating positive results.

Speaker 2

As we said on our last call, we are evaluating the quality and productivity of sites on a real time basis and making tweaks as appropriate. As a reminder, we plan to enroll approximately 300 patients into Reliance 2. Based on our current projection, we continue to expect Reliance 2 to be completed with top line data anticipated in the second half of this year. We are also continuing to enroll in those patients in our 2nd Phase III trial for rel=ten seventeen relight or Study 304 that also has a planned enrollment of approximately 300 patients. Like RELIANCE 2, ReLITE is a randomized, double blind, placebo controlled, 4 weeks trial evaluating the efficacy and safety of REL-ten seventeen as an adjunctive treatment of MDD in patients experiencing inadequate response to ongoing background antidepressant treatment.

Speaker 2

The primary endpoint of both studies is the same, the change in the MADRAS total score from baseline to date 28 for rel1017 as compared to placebo. I would like to emphasize again that we have made meaningful revision to our screening and enrollment processes in order to ensure that we have patients that meet all of the qualifying criteria within our desired patient profile. To this end, we are now executing on a comprehensive adjudication process through which we require medical and pharmacy records for all patients enrolled in RAYANZE II and RELITE. Given this, the screen failure rate in this study has increased to approximately 80% versus approximately 50% in RELIANCE I and RELIANCE III, our previously completed Phase III trial, REL1017. However, we are highly confident that these changes will substantially enhance the probability of success of the current studies.

Speaker 2

I would also like to highlight that we have completed all of the necessary preclinical manufacturing and Phase 1 study required for a potential rel=ten seventeen NDA filing and our current focus is on executing the remaining 2 Phase 3 studies, 302 and 304. Moving on now to the promising novel modified release psilocybin program. We continue to anticipate the initiation of a single ascending dose Phase 1 trial in obese patients in the first half of this year to define the pharmacokinetic safety and tolerability profile of our modified release cytosidin formulation in this population, followed by a Phase IIa trial to establish clinical proof of concept. Data from the PLANET 2a study is anticipated in the first half of twenty twenty five. These blended studies will build on the compelling preclinical data that were presented in a poster presentation on last November's AASLD meeting, deliver conference.

Speaker 2

These results showed the beneficial effect of low chronic dose psilocybin on multiple metabolic parameters in a rodent model of metabolic dysfunction associated steatotic liver disease or MASLD. Based on these data, low dose psilocybin could improve lipids and glucose with potential for fewer side effects over other investigative treatment approaches such as GLP-one, glucagon and GIP. So to summarize our multiple upcoming key milestones over the next 12, 18 months, we anticipate the ongoing RELIANCE to be completed with top line data in the second half of this year. In addition, we anticipate initiating a Phase 1 clinical trial for our modified release formulation of psilocybin before the end of the current quarter. Lastly, while Magid will provide a detailed review of our financial, I would like to highlight that we continue to advance our pipeline for a position of significant financial strength with cash on hand to take us comfortably into 2025.

Speaker 2

I will now turn the call over to Magid to review our first quarter financial results. Magit?

Speaker 3

Thank you, Sergio. Today, we issued a press release announcing our business and financial results for the 3 months ended March 31, 2024, which I will now review. For the Q1 ended March 31, 2024, total research and development expense was approximately $13,300,000 as compared to $15,900,000 for the comparable period of 2023, a decrease of approximately $2,600,000 The decrease was primarily associated with the completion of the long term open label study, Study 310 in the Q3 of 2023, as well as RELIANCE 103. The non cash charge related to stock based compensation for R and D totaled $1,700,000 in the most recently completed Q1. Total general and administrative expense for the Q1 ended March 31, 2024 was approximately $9,700,000 as compared to $12,300,000 for the comparable period of 2022, a decrease of approximately $2,600,000 The decrease was primarily driven by a decrease in stock based compensation expense.

Speaker 3

The non cash charge related to stock based compensation for G and A totaled $6,600,000 in the most recently completed Q1. For the Q1 ended March 31, 2024, the net loss was $21,800,000 or $0.72 per basic and diluted share, compared with a net loss of $26,300,000 or $0.87 per basic and diluted share in the comparable period of 2023. As of March 31, 2024, we had cash, cash equivalents and short term investments of approximately $83,600,000 compared to $96,300,000 as of December 31, 2023. Cash used in operations in the Q1 of 2023 was $13,000,000 Based on our clinical development plan, our current cash position provides us with comfortable runway into 2025. I will now ask the operator to please open up the call for questions.

Speaker 3

Operator?

Operator

Thank you. Ladies and gentlemen, we'll now begin the question and answer Your first question comes from Mark Goodman from Leerink Partners. Mark, please go ahead.

Speaker 4

Hi, this is Basma on for Mark. I have a question about the RELIANCE and RELYTE trials, ongoing RELIANCE and RELYTE trials. You actually mentioned something that were monitoring the trials, monitoring the looking at the blinded data before in the previous call, in the 4th Q earning call. Can you provide some color about those kind of blinded data from what do you see right now from the RELIANCE and RELITE if you compare to the prior trial that had larger placebo response? Do you see any similarities?

Speaker 4

Do you see any difference? Just to give us some color about this strategy that you implemented to reduce the placebo response. Thank you.

Speaker 2

Yes, sure. And thanks for the question. I'll give you like the top down answer. And then we have Doctor. Andrew Catler, he is our clinical advisor on the call, will provide a little bit more details about this aspect.

Speaker 2

Well, first, let me say something about the blinded data, right? There is absolutely no way to guess from the blinded data the outcome of a clinical trial. And we did we experienced that in the last two trials that we had. So the help that we can get or everybody can get from monitoring the blinded data is only and exclusively to see if there is something that is not like that doesn't make and I can find the right word, but that is not consistent, right? For I'll give an example, if there are individual patients with the MADRA scores week over week that goes up and down or we call it zigzag, then you know that there is something that is not right.

Speaker 2

It can be the patient or it can be the site. But usually a patient that zigzag, that's a signal that something is not like it's not consistent. And so we take a look to that to the patients and mostly to the site. So that's the really the only help that you can get from the blinded data, but it is important, right, to continue to monitor to see that not many of these patients with this zigzag pattern get into the trial. When it's in, there is nothing we can do, but we can at least revise and advise the site that something is kind of like a red flag.

Speaker 2

And Andy, you are on the call. Would you mind to provide some more details about it?

Speaker 5

Yes. So I absolutely agree with what Sergio said. What you look for is consistency and quality indicators. And in addition to what you said about the primary, the MADRA zigzagging, you also look for consistency across different scales. The primary secondary the key secondary outcome of course being the CGI, usually that moves in the same direction as the MADRS, which is measuring depression symptoms.

Speaker 5

So you look for that. I would say also that in the previous trial, sites were allowed to enroll rather quickly without watching the quality as closely as we're doing now. And that can certainly be a problem. So we're now really being much more careful with the enrollment, not allowing a site to over enroll patients until we've looked at the quality, monitoring the quality of each site and the trial overall. And I would say things are looking fine from that point of view at this point.

Speaker 2

Thank you, Andy. And I hope that answers your question.

Speaker 4

Thank you.

Operator

Your next question comes from Andrea Tan from Goldman Sachs. Please go ahead.

Speaker 6

Hi, Sergio. Thanks so much for taking the question. Maybe one follow-up to your remarks right there. As you are monitoring the sites, if you do see the inconsistencies that you've just spoken about, maybe walk us through what steps then you would take to remediate those issues? And then I have one follow-up question.

Speaker 6

Thank you.

Speaker 2

Yes. And good afternoon, Andrea. Thanks for question. As before, I will give you like the short answer and then Andy, if you would like to provide a little bit more details. But in general, well, first, you contact the site and you discuss like any detail regarding patients or patients that has some inconsistency.

Speaker 2

And then now you go through the whole process. And ultimately, if that becomes a pattern, you don't want to have like a site that shows inconsistency enrolling like 10, 20 patients because that would affect the old trial. So the ultimate measure is to close the site. But Andy, I'm sure can give you a little bit more color on this.

Speaker 5

Yes, that is well said. The most important thing is to not allow a site to continue to enroll patients and have problems like that. And that as you know, if one site has too many patients, 1 or 2 sites that can kill a trial. But also if you do see this well, first of all, the site also knows having run sites. The site knows now if you're looking over my shoulder and you're going to call me, it really does make them be on their best behavior, if you will, and not cut corners.

Speaker 5

So but ultimately, we have closed down some sites that had quality issues. So ultimately, what you do is you just stop them from enrolling so that they don't have a chance to hurt the study.

Speaker 6

Okay.

Speaker 2

Thank you, Andrea.

Speaker 6

Can you just remind us quickly if you're are you planning on having an interim analysis or is there going to be any type of mechanism in place for the DSMB to recommend stopping the study early as they have in your prior trial?

Speaker 2

So the we will have not we, but the data monitoring committee will have a look at the data at some point closer very, very close to the end. But this is not an interim analysis because there is no statistical penalty. It's a sample re estimation. They will let us know if the sample that we have in the trial is enough to reach statistically significant or if we have to expand the trial. So there is no early stop planned.

Speaker 5

The other major function of the DSMB, of course, is to monitor safety. And the good news is the safety and the tolerability have looked very

Speaker 4

good. Great. Thanks so much.

Speaker 3

Thanks, Andy.

Speaker 2

Thank you, Alvaro.

Operator

Your next question comes from Andrew Tsai from Jefferies. Andrew, please go ahead.

Speaker 7

Hey, congrats on progress. This is Matt calling for Andrew. And I guess continuing with the same theme, do you have any specifics on the numbers of sites that you've had to pause, close or been able to even reopen using your monitoring real time analysis? And also we've

Speaker 2

Sorry, I can maybe it's me, but I can barely hear you.

Speaker 7

Okay. Can you hear me better now?

Speaker 2

Much better. Yes. Thank you. Sorry about that.

Speaker 7

Okay. No problem. So yes, I was just asking continuing with like the real time site analysis, if you'd had any specifics on the number of sites that you've had to pause, close or maybe even reopen? And then also over the past year, we had we've seen quite a few companies that have announced delays, for instance, like schizophrenia and epilepsy spaces. And are you seeing any increased level finding the right MDD depression patients?

Speaker 2

And then I Thanks for the question. Yes, thank you very much for the question. So in terms of sites, right, the like the site selection is not like it's 6 like the UD site 50, 60 sites at the beginning and you finish with the same sites. It is an ongoing process. So constantly, there is a revision of sites and some site is closed not only for quality issue, also for like the competing studies or they exhausted the patient population that they can enroll into the site.

Speaker 2

So it is an ongoing. I don't have on the top of my mind like a really specific number, but it's not like that at some point you do a review. It's an ongoing process. So the maybe Andy, when I finish the other answer, can give you a little bit more detail because he run clinical sites. So he is more into the detail of the process.

Speaker 2

And the second question, would you mind to repeat it?

Speaker 7

Yes. Just

Speaker 2

The competing study, right?

Speaker 7

Yes, exactly.

Speaker 2

Yes. Well, there is clearly some competition out there. And the mostly I mean, usually, a site does not cannot or does not take on like 3, 4 studies that enroll the same kind of patients. In our case, it's a little bit particular because we are doing the studies are for adjunctive treatment of depression. So that's the competition is much less because the there are not many other program, especially in Phase III that enroll patients in this adjunctive.

Speaker 2

We do believe there was one other company that finished one sizable big study a few weeks ago. And but I do believe that the majority of their sites were outside the U. S. So there was relative competition. It was not an antidepressant anyway.

Speaker 2

We keep on hearing that the psychedelic, the psilocybin, there are a lot of trial ongoing with psilocybin in the press And it is not really a direct competitor, but still it keeps the sites busy. And it's high dose psilocybin for PTSD and MDD. So yes, to summarize, yes, there is competition, but we are in a specific indication where the competition is much lower. And would you mind to provide a little bit more color?

Speaker 5

Yes. I'll answer the second one first and that is that, Sergio is exactly right at the site level you don't want to take too many competing studies. Usually though the study criteria are different enough that you can do say 2 or 3 depression studies without significantly impairing because a patient will more clearly fit into one protocol than So as far as the first question, I don't have the exact number of sites that we've closed down offhand, but sites do close for various reasons. That's certainly true. But we have stopped enrollment at a couple of sites.

Speaker 5

I can't say that, but it's not a lot fortunately. And I think some of it is simply the process of overseeing the sites. Now the sites know that they're being watched. They know that we're monitoring quality and that often changes the behavior enough so that significant corrective action isn't necessary.

Speaker 7

Got it. Yes, that makes sense. And then I guess regarding the Phase 1 tsilocybin program that you're going to be kicking off soon, can you describe

Speaker 5

the

Speaker 7

study design and what positive data would entail?

Speaker 2

Yes, it's very simple. We'll start with a Phase 1 single dose, ascending dose of psilocybin modified release. So the interesting part is the patient population or the technically Phase 1, you do it in a healthy volunteer. And but it's well known that psilocybin is a relatively safe product at high dose, and we are using a dose very, very much, much lower, like 120 or the 1 30 of the dose that is used as a psychedelic for the treatment of psychiatric diseases. So on the safety side, we feel extremely comfortable.

Speaker 2

And but the indication that we'll pursue for psilocybin is into the metabolic space, so obesity and glucose and fatty liver. So the data that we are looking for is the mostly PK data in obese patients. So the particular is the patient population that will be obese healthy volunteer. And we should start over the next month or 2, right? We said within the first half.

Speaker 2

So we are getting there. It's a short study. So the old study will last like 3, 4 months maximum.

Speaker 7

Excellent. Thank you.

Speaker 2

Thank you.

Operator

Your next question comes from Louis R. From Mizuho. Please go ahead.

Speaker 8

Hi. This is Charles on for Oi. I had a question about kind of the screening failure rate and if you think that's going to kind of stay at 80 throughout the study enrollment? And then also if you could clarify if Reliance 2 screening failure rate was also 50% before the new protocol? Thank you.

Speaker 2

Hey, Charlie. Thanks for the question. And so the yes, the screening failure is it's high, but we look at the reason for the screening failure and they are legitimate reasons, right? It's usually drug drug interaction or concomitant mostly it's concomitant medication. So yes, these are legitimate reason not to enroll in the study.

Speaker 2

And most of this screening failure actually come from the site. And with that said, we are constantly reviewing, we listen very carefully to the feedback from the sites. And there is anything that we can do to increase the enrollment rate or decrease the screening failure, but without decreasing the quality and increasing the risk of the trial, we have been doing that. So there are certain things that have been especially on the drug drug interaction that or concomitant medication more than interaction that have been changing over time. So that should facilitate.

Speaker 2

And this is a back and forth from the company and the site. So they give us a feedback and we see patient with that characteristic that it could fit into the trial, but we cannot put it in because of the inclusion exclusion. So we revised and in a dialogue with the FDA, of course, we have made a few like detailed revision of the product all over time. So we don't know what we'll do to the screening failure, but definitely, there is a chance that we could get a little better. And the second question was at the beginning.

Speaker 2

Yes, that's a great question, but I don't have the answer on the top of my head. And the screening failure on the at the beginning of 302, Probably, there are not like a lot of patients enrolled. So I don't know how much that number is meaningful. But maybe Andy or Maggot, if they have some more color on that, I mean, the screening failure on the Study 2 before we amended the protocol?

Speaker 7

I don't believe it was quite

Speaker 5

the go ahead, Nikit. Sorry.

Speaker 3

Go ahead, Andy. Yes, I don't it was certainly not quite as high. I don't want to put a number out there without confirming with our internal team. So we'll have to get back to you.

Speaker 5

Yes, exactly. But I would not be put off by the sweetest. We're trying to find the right patients and that's critically important. Patient selection is absolutely a source of failure in studies.

Speaker 2

Okay. Thanks, guys. Right.

Speaker 3

And

Speaker 2

yes, as we mentioned in some of our calls, right, the big one of the biggest changes amendment we made to the protocol is that there is now a requirement for medical and pharmacy records. And that's by itself increased the screening failure, but also at the same time, the you are relatively comfortable that, that patient comes from like from a doctor that has diagnosed and prescribed medication and that the patient that actually purchased the medication from the pharmacy. So the two things they go together, like high screening failure, but there is clearly an improvement in the risk profile of the patients enrolled. I hope that answers your question.

Speaker 8

Yes. Thank you.

Speaker 2

Thank you. And in summary, we continue to firmly believe that we have an approval drug in rel=ten seventeen, and we are excited by the potential of our novel psilocybin derivative program. We look forward to reporting further progress with our pipeline throughout the remainder of 2024. I do remain grateful to the Ramada team for their continued hard work and dedication to executing on our mission. Also, as always, I would like to extend my sincere thanks to the patients and clinical partners involved in the rel1017 trials for their participation in the advancement of this promising investigational medicine through development.

Speaker 2

Thanks a lot to everyone for the attention and the interest and looking forward to the next conference call.

Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, this concludes your conference call for today. We thank you for participating and ask that you please disconnect your lines.

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