Centrais Elétricas Brasileiras S.A. - Eletrobrás Q1 2024 Earnings Call Transcript

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Operator

Good morning, ladies and gentlemen. Thank you for waiting. Welcome to our earnings release presentation for the Q1 of 2024 for Eletrobras. Let me introduce you to our team. We have Mr.

Operator

Ivan de Sousa Montero, our President, our CEO Mr. Eduardo JAMA, our VP of Investor Relations Mr. Rodrigo Limp, the VP of Regulations and Institutional Relations Mr. Elio Wolf, VP of Strategy and Business Development Mr. Italo Freitas, VP of Trade and Interim VP of Expansion Mr.

Operator

Antonio Varejohn de Godoy, VP of Operations and Security. We also have Mr. Marcelo Desiquiera Freitas, our Legal VP. This conference is being recorded and the replay will be made available on the company's IR website, where you can also find the slide deck in Portuguese and English. If you need simultaneous translation, please click the Language Interpretation button at the bottom of your screen and choose the language you prefer.

Operator

You can choose either Portuguese or English. For those listening to the video conference in English, you can mute the original audio in Portuguese by clicking mute original audio. Your name will be called and a request to activate your microphone will pop up on your screen for you to ask your question live. Please write no microphone at the end of your question looking statements that may be made during this conference call regarding the company's business prospects, projections, operational and financial goals are based on the beliefs and assumptions made by Electra Bras' management as well as on information currently available to the company. Forward looking statements do not guarantee performance as they involve risks and uncertainty and therefore rely on circumstances and things that may or may not happen.

Operator

Investors should understand that general economic conditions and other operating factors may have an impact on the results that we see in these forward looking statements. Now I would like to hand it over to Mr. Iva de Sousa Montero, our CEO, so that we can begin our presentation. Mr. Eva, please go ahead.

Operator

Good morning. Thank you for being here for our earnings release presentation for the Q1 of 2024. On behalf of our Board, we need to say that we feel very sorry for what is happening in Rio Grande do Sul. Our company is talking to the authorities in that state, and we are making ourselves available to help them however they need our help. Now let's talk about our results.

Operator

We had less impact of non recurring shareholders and other stakeholders to know that their relations with us and everything they know will have an impact on the company, its income and its profitability. So we had minimal impact from nonrecurring items. We know that what we got from compulsory loans have an impact on the company. We have BRL 16,000,000,000 in provisions, but we have a reduction in this trajectory because we started at 23. Now let me talk about revenue, especially regarding generation.

Operator

We had 3 highlights here. First, the reduction of power prices. Of course, this has a reduction on the revenue for generation. We also have CUN DYOTA. We want 100% of its generation with renewable energy, with clean energy, and we're working on its sale.

Operator

What also had major impacts on us was delinquency from Amazonas Energia. Our company has been working on trying to get these credits. This is a lot of volume. We're talking about BRL 10,000,000,000 in delinquency. And this distributor does not make payments to Eletrobras or has not made any payments to Eletrobras since December of last year.

Operator

So of course, we're going to court, but we're also talking to Enel and to the Ministry of Mines and Energy. We're looking for a solution for this problem together. This is a serious matter that has had an impact on us to the amount of BRL 400,000,000. For transmission, we are tied to the IPCA Index and we are focusing more on CapEx. We have stable revenue for transmission with slight growth.

Operator

However, this is a focus for our CapEx and I'm going to be talking about this later. For expenditures, we have ongoing reduction of our PMSO. We now have recurring levels with performance in the Q1, and we expect BRL 6,300,000,000 in this year. Our goal is to have 2026 with a PMSO of around BRL 5,000,000,000, a recurring PMSO. This is what we're looking for.

Operator

Something major we're discussing now is the renewal of the collective bargaining agreement. This is the first one that will be discussed with Eletro Bros as a private company. We also have our participation in the transmission auction. We were working with sets of BRL5.6 billion and an expected RAP of BRL590 1,000,000. We're improving this process, and we expect to conclude this investment program at a lower value and with quicker deployment times, which makes for better revenue from this investment because this revenue will be available to us sooner.

Operator

Now we have 2 other highlights. We had the issuance of bonds, BRL5.5 billion. These bonds are going to mature in 5 7 years. This has to do with a reduction of our total debt. However, importantly, at the same time, we're working on waivers from past issuances, even this one.

Operator

Rema will be talking about this later. So we are reducing covenants and we are using a very standardized approach for the general conditions that are applied to every bond, to every investment. For the previous ones, we got the waivers too and we used the same standards. For the divestment process, we are still very committed to our divestment efforts. This is something that has piqued our interest, and we are focusing on completing this process in 2024.

Operator

For the first time ever, we also had a leadership meeting. We had all of our leaders in Rio de Janeiro. We had over 500 people here. It was a 2 day in person meeting in Rio de Janeiro, where we were able to talk about the company's strategy, our culture, the kind of leadership we expect to have, and we got very positive feedback. I'm also very happy to say that we had our first ever trainee program.

Operator

We had over 14,000 people who enrolled. We chose 38 young people who already started working at Eletrobras, and they are very excited. Finally, I would like to say that we finished the restructuring of our trading department. Eletrobras is looking forward to having a lot of customers. So by developing our trading department, we're going to do that.

Operator

This is established in the city of Sao Paulo, and we expect to reap the fruit of the creation of this team, which I'm sure will be very good for Eletrobras. Now let me hand it over to the next speaker who will be talking about the next part of the presentation. Thank you. Good morning, ladies and gentlemen. Moving on to Slide number 5, let me go into details about these highlights.

Operator

Here we have 4 pillars. 1st, we want to make our structure simpler. We also want to change our culture and we want to make our ESG agenda stronger. And then we have finances. Finally, we can talk about transmission auctions.

Operator

Right now, we are paying BRL 1,300,000,000 in dividends according to the approvals we got in the last generalist meeting. So let's talk about simplifying our structure. As Ivan was saying, right now, our cost is R6.4 billion. So this is a decrease compared to the previous year, around 10% 12% compared to the last quarter. We're also hiring people.

Operator

We're renewing our group of employees and we have many other initiatives to improve our management. So we're going to see changes in this year in this number throughout the year. However, we're keeping to what we expected, which was around BRL 7,000,000,000 for this year. And as Ivo said, for 2026, we expect BRL5 1,000,000,000. On Slide number 7, we can talk about cultural transformation.

Operator

First, we made lots of progress when it comes to attracting people. From July 2023 to April, we hired 1100 people. And attracting people has to do with how we look at the future. We're trying to renew the company. We're trying to drive results.

Operator

And we reviewed our career plan. As Ivan was saying, we had our first ever trainee program. 38 people were hired as trainees, and we expect another 50 trainees to join our company for every year in the future. Out of these 38 people, all of them were hired, but we had over 14,000 people who registered to be a part of this program. So this goes to show that we are indeed attracting people who want to be a part of this cultural transformation.

Operator

Now regarding the ESG agenda, a big highlight is that we released a sustainability report. We sold Cangiotta, which is a thermal power plant, and we had 96.5 percent of renewable sources in 2023. We had RMB 1,000,000,000 in investments to decarbonize the legal Amazon region and to revitalize our basins. When it comes to engagement and our reputation, we improved our corporate reputation in the power industry in Brazil. Now let's talk about debt.

Operator

As Ivan was saying, for the first time, we created our first debt through coordinating with all of our companies. We standardized this bond and we got to much better rates than what we had received in the previous year. So we went from BRL 5,500,000,000 to BRL 5,400,000,000 We had IPCA and for the other one, we had another spread. So this goes to show that the company is powerful right now and is able to improve its capital structure over time. On slide number 10, when we talk about the transmission auction, we had an average disallowance of 40.78%.

Operator

When these lines are ready and operating, this is going to represent an investment of RMB 5.6 1,000,000,000. We always knew that we were competitive in these auctions either because we're looking for lots of synergy with our current operations or because we're trying to improve our CapEx. So every cost, we know that we're second to none. So we see that in these auctions, we had 4 different sets of auctions and we did really well in the last two. So we see the results of that on Slide number 12 and we do believe that this is going to be one of the pillars of growth.

Operator

Let's talk about growth in transmission over time. If we put together the auctions that we got in 2022, 2023 and now 2024 and all the improvements that we mentioned and that have already been approved by Enel and also relying on the completion of TransNort connecting Manaus to Roraima, our RAP for transmission, our annual allowed revenue for transmission will probably grow around BRL 2,000,000,000. Our total investment will be BRL 16,000,000,000 according to the Aneo criteria. On Slide number 4, we can talk about the RAP periodic review, the RTP. When we compare the numbers of our RAP from 23 to 24 and the one for 24% to 25%, we would have a reduction of 13%.

Operator

We expected this reduction according to Enel's methodology. The refund, because of how the 2023 review was postponed, we expected this impact. It's not going to be neutral. We expected a decrease. But on the other hand, we have an increase of our RAP.

Operator

As I said in the previous slide, we were doing the works to reinforce and improve our lines and this creates an increase in RAP. So we would go from BRL 738,000,000 to BRL 1,158,000,000. This is still preliminary numbers, but we are going deeper into this analysis. On Slide 6

Speaker 1

Now looking at another

Operator

step. Generation.

Speaker 1

We talk about generation. So we saw that in the 3rd quarter,

Operator

we would have to take prices into account. So $189 was the average price for the previous quarter. And we were 1 quarter late. So this would have been the prices for the Q4 for the 2024 prices. And from then on, then we have this range.

Operator

You can see that we work with ranges now. We can also think about the total volumes that are bought. For the next years, we have ranges as well. And we start these ranges with the bottom of the last numbers that we had in the Q4, because we believe that this is very important information for us as a company. But it's important to mention that we made lots of progress with these contracts when we look at 2024 numbers.

Operator

We now have more financial information on Slide 18. We prefer to look at regulatory numbers because they are closer to what is the actual cash generation. So our gross revenue grew 8% compared to the previous year, the Q1. For our EBITDA, if we use these regulations and if we take into account non recurring events, we had a 5% growth. And our IFRS net income, because this is the calculation basis that we use for dividends, then we had a decrease, but especially because of adjustments that we had to make regarding transmission, which could lead to fluctuations for the accounting income.

Operator

On Slide 18, we can understand or actually 2019, we can understand better. As I was saying, our costs went down compared to the previous year, even compared to the Q4. But this number is still going to fluctuate a bit throughout this year, not only because of the contracts we're working on, but also because of other restructuring costs that we'll face. That includes improving systems, improving infrastructure and other things that are important for us to have better, more agile management.

Speaker 1

1st Slide 20, looking at the provisions. We have to highlight what was mentioned before. So the main one, it's the issue of the reverse. So we had when it came to compulsory loans, and it was a BRL 440,000,000. And another one that is important to mention, it is the bad loan provision.

Speaker 1

It was highly impacted not just when it comes to revenue in Amazonas. It was almost BRL80 1,000,000. And there's also the highlight of BRL 66,000,000, and that is highly concentrated in the generator. If we go to Slide 21, we're talking a little bit about compulsory loans again. We were able to reduce it, remembering that in the Q4 that provision was in RMB17 1,000,000,000 and now it's down to RMB16 1,000,000,000, So still increasing our risk and we're able to secure good negotiations.

Speaker 1

The expectation is that we're able to continue to do this throughout the next quarters and years. And I want that this line becomes more insignificant in our total balance. Slide 22 talks about leverage. Our leverage didn't move very much since December, remembering that this number still is not counting the payables of dividends that we're paying today, so RMB 5,500,000,000 Looking forward, we highlighted that the resources that have come in are not included, but we did extend the debt of 2024. So how do we see this?

Speaker 1

So the cash itself is reported in RMB17 1,000,000,000. But when you consider that we had RMB5.5 b coming in and we paid 3.4 b that you see in yellow in 2024, the balance now has been extended till after 2029. It's an important extension with competitive rates, as I had mentioned before. Finally, Slide 23, I'm not going to go into deep detail here, but it's something that we are exercising this internally, where we're looking not only at results when it comes to details, but also the cash flow directly. So we can more and more understand each one of those items.

Speaker 1

So we talk about the regulatory one

Operator

of those items. So we talk about the regulatory EBITDA, which we understand is the most correct one, and then we deduct each one

Speaker 1

of those items that impacted our net cash throughout the quarter. It could be when it comes to payments, the revitalization of Amazonas of the basins based on the investment of $1,800,000,000 the service of the debt that we incurred throughout this time. So with that, I think we can wrap up and go on to the question and answers. Now we are going to start our Q and A session. Your name will be called and a request to activate your microphone will pop up on your screen.

Operator

And our operator will

Speaker 1

read it. Our first question comes from Andres Ampaio from Santander. Mr. Andre Salpaio, can you please open your microphone? Hi, everyone.

Speaker 1

Sorry, now I got the pop up. I would like to ask something that you've talked about, but I would like to get more details when it comes to the tariff regulation of the transmitters. We felt positively surprised here when it comes to the RAP. And so therefore, the economical results as opposed to what had been demonstrated by companies beforehand. So if you could please speak on that, what may have led to this positive surprise of the RAP and our economic results.

Speaker 1

I think that would be important. Thank you for your question. I'm going to ask Rodrigo Limp. Thank you, Andre. Thank you for your question.

Speaker 1

Good morning, everyone. I just want to clarify some things. I think that I've asked I've been asked a lot of questions. The numbers released by Anil are still very preliminary. There's still the contribution phase of it and we will make contributions.

Speaker 1

There's still the overseeing part of the process, and this is what we presented to Aneo before that revision. Some points that I think are important and talking about the surprise that we also felt is to separate the financial and the economical part. Based on the ruling, we have to come to a 0 8 years after we received. So that would be for us 2028. When it comes to the economical component, it's a little bit different when it comes to what Anil asked.

Speaker 1

So when there's non depreciated assets, there is a revenue associated to that installment. For example, if we talk about the lots, we have a relevant value close to $2,000,000,000 And this when it comes to depreciation, the expectation is that it will generate revenue till the end of the concession.

Operator

We're still not finished

Speaker 1

wrapping up all in line with what's being asked of us. But we need to remember that numbers are still preliminary. There's another public tender that's happening in parallel. There's the OEM still not concluded by Anel, and it's a sum of processes that are ongoing. We'll also see the one that's bringing the remuneration basis and the discussion of the financial component, and it's a separate press process.

Speaker 1

We don't have the exact date of that trial. If that happens by June, it will have it will come into effect as of the next cycle. And about the remuneration base, we had that report from 2018 and it was updated with the most recent value that was considering depreciation to the assets throughout the last cycle and that generates a change in the depreciation rate in the average. So as far as methodology goes, we are within what's expected. We still have some questions about some numbers, some points that we have to contribute in the public tender.

Speaker 1

We have lots of spreadsheets, but there will be different numbers. I think that things are happening within what we expected. I'm not sure if that answers your question. Yes, it does. Thank you very much.

Speaker 1

Thank you. Thank you very much. Our next question comes from Maria Carolina Carneiro from Safra. Good morning. I have no microphone.

Speaker 1

I have two questions. Number 1, prices and amounts sold in 2024 seem attractive even above levels of the seed and bricks. This environment of business with liquidity is going to continue for the 1st and second quarter now or should we expect a less liquid revenue in the next wet period? And second, with capital allocation, considering the selling of the thermal plants that are ongoing, are there expectations for reservoir auction? Or are we waiting to finalize discussions before we can anticipate CDE when it comes to C TIP?

Speaker 1

We're maybe expecting more elevated cash demands if that deal is closed? Right, Carol. Thank you for your questions. So the first one, I'm going to give to Italo, please. Thank you, Iva.

Speaker 1

Good morning, Carol. Without a doubt, this last quarter brought a situation that was a low in the wind energy in the Northeast. It was decreased significantly, especially in the last few months. There was also at the beginning of the quarter, a reduction of our reservoir levels. At the same time, we had good amount of rain at the end of the quarter that increased the reservoirs in the north.

Speaker 1

That gave us a good increase that was relevant and the Southeast reservoirs as well. It wasn't as significant as in the North, but it happened quickly. Obviously, we're in a dry period now of our process and that pressures the price. And that's what we see in the next few months until we resume the wet period. So relatively high pressure until we can resume that wet period in the next cycle.

Speaker 1

So that is the vision that we have of the market. Obviously, the question of what is happening now in the South really pushed prices up because of the reservoir in the South. The Southern reservoir has a higher variability. But now because of the rains, we have higher levels as well. But we have a less liquid market until the end of the dry period.

Speaker 1

That's our vision. Thank you very much, Carol. Regarding the last two questions, 2 situations that were very interesting. The first one, as has been mentioned, the fundraising of RMB5.5 billion with in bonds, not only for subsidiaries, but for the hold as well. And now also thinking about the old instruments of the bonds because the similarity is now giving us more opportunities to increase our asset portfolio.

Speaker 1

Because you're talking about the thermal plants, I'm going to ask our Vice President, Elio, to contribute now. Just to ask a question about CT, we can't talk about that. When it comes to thermal plants, objectively, the process is evolving, as we've been talking about in the last calls. Our expectation is that we, in fact, announce and conclude this transaction throughout 2024. It is very attractive for all of our assets.

Speaker 1

It's a varied portfolio. And in general, this is still evolving. So I believe that we can still close the process by till the end of 2024. When it comes to other assets, what we're still prospecting, of course, is our strategy to simplify and then to uncross the assets with partners. We're still prospecting and working on this continuously.

Speaker 1

This is what we did do in 2023 as well. Thank you very much, Elio. You also mentioned talks with the government reiterating that the we participate in the conciliation chamber and that I have to remind you that it is all confidential. We have another question from Maria Carolina. If I can ask another question.

Speaker 1

When it comes to Amazonas, what are the next steps that you can take to try and solve this? Okay. When we talk about regulation, are we planning to do anything with the Ministry of Mining and Energy?

Operator

So, Karol, as I said at the beginning, we are taking every legal measure possible. We're asking for the credits that are related to delinquency. And we're working with Anil and with the Ministry of Mine and Energy. So I'm going to ask VP Marcelo to talk about the legal issues and then Mr. Rodrigo will be able to talk about the regulations.

Operator

Thank you, Ivan. Thank you for your question too. Right now, we have proceedings against Amazonas Energia to over 3 fourths of the total debt. So we are trying to collect and Eletrobras is very active when it comes to this issue. But yes, after this step, we're going to be a bit blunter when it comes to the legal proceedings because we want to stop this delinquency, we want to be able to collect and we want to be paid for their past debt.

Operator

Thank you for your question. Yes, this is one of our biggest priorities in the short term, as Ivan was saying at the beginning. This distributor spent a while paying everything it owed. And then in November, they went back to being delinquent. So we haven't received any payments since December.

Operator

And we are following different paths here. As Marcelo said, we have legal proceedings in place and we have regulatory proceedings in place. We're taking specific action to try and mitigate our exposure to Amazonas. We made some progress in 2023. We were able to transfer receivables from CCE directly to Eletrobras.

Operator

However, we are subject to exposure from Amazonas for some segments and for those we don't have any revenue coming in. Last week, we were talking about additional resources being received from CCE directly to Eletrobras. The rapporteur will be evaluating this. This has to do with power contracts. Amazonas receives resources from subcontracting from CCE.

Operator

Even for the contracts that we have with Electrobras and ElectroNorte. We're also talking to the ministry in Enero. In February, they published a report regarding the Amazonas distributor. They propositioned some options and they all involve transferring the control of this company, either through negotiations or through a maturity period or even through interventions. In this report, they say the same thing that we believe in, that for a new controller, they need more flexible regulations and this relies on legislation.

Operator

This is what the ministry indicates in this report along with the NIO. So we expect to see proposals to make this more flexible, to make regulations more flexible, to make it possible for a new controller to come in. Because after the maturity period, what we saw is that the new controller is not really being able is not really able to control these services, which could even have an impact on the quality of power supply in the future. And we can see that there is a big concern when it comes to that, both from Anil and the Ministry of Energy. So we expect to make progress in the short term when it comes to changing the management of this company.

Operator

We want to receive these funds and we are entitled to them. We have a purchase contract and we've always met our end of the contract. Next question from Mr. Enrique Pierrette from JPMorgan. Please go ahead.

Operator

Hi, good morning. Two questions. Let me ask about supply and the price of energy. This is more of a strategic question. Yesterday, we saw the results of an auction in Chile, and the price was $56 per megawatt hour plus $20 for systemic costs.

Operator

So we're talking about $76 In the U. S, we're talking about $30, dollars 40, dollars 50 But in Brazil, we're talking about $20 per megawatt hour. Of course, you can't just transport energy everywhere and you can't control supply. However, I do believe there's lots of opportunity on the demand side. We can talk about electrification, about green hydrogen, about data centers.

Operator

So my question is, are you looking at the creation of supply or demand actually for energy in Brazil since energy is so in Brazil. And at El Atrobras, you have a 20 fourseven operation, so there's no problem with transportation or intermittence. So this could be an opportunity right now. Can we use this? Can we use electrification to increase demand and to find better prices?

Operator

My second question has do with an agreement with the government. Could you add the conversation about Amazonas in this larger agreement? Hi, Enrique. Thank you for your question. We have 3 different things to talk about here, and I will be asking our VPs to talk about them.

Operator

Yes, data centers, green hydrogen and the electrification of important industries in Brazil are things that we are keeping an eye on. And this is certainly going to drive demand up, but let me hand it over to Italo. Hi, thank you. Do you have a full day for us to discuss this question? Well, jokes aside, we are focused on this.

Operator

We know that we need to drive demand up in Brazil or we need to create demand in Brazil. The trading structure that we have put together has a department that looks into bringing demand to Brazil. We're a part of this conversation, not only domestically, but also internationally. We can think about demand related to this industry and related to the new green economy. For instance, you mentioned green hydrogen and other biofuels.

Operator

Of course, many memorandums of understanding have not been disclosed yet, but we have been signing many of them. First, we need to look for partnerships with the potential clients of green fuels. And then after we have a partnership with consumers or off takers, we can then develop projects that are going to be a part of this conversation. With our Board, we were able to approve a strategy for green hydrogen and its byproducts. We've disclosed it 3 or 4 months ago.

Operator

This is what Eletrobras wants. As you were saying, hydroelectric power plants are considered renewable. This even caters to European Union rules. And this is one of the only kinds of energy where you have renewable energy 20 fourseven and it is stable and competitive. So Eletrobras knows that.

Operator

We have a structure of hydropower and this is going to be important in the world when we think about increased demand in the green economy. Of course, we're very interested in bringing this new demand in with new customers. And as I was saying, we need partnerships with these customers. We need to know who the offtaker is going to be, and then we need to move on to projects to cater to this demand. Thank you.

Operator

Regarding the second question, I would like to stress that we can't make any official comments, but we are still a part of the conversations the reconciliation chamber and everything we discuss there is under an NDA. Our next question is from Mr. Daniel Trubisky from Safra. Please go ahead. Good morning.

Operator

Thank you for taking my question. First, let me talk about transmission auctions. We saw significant activity from this company in the last auction. So what do you expect for the next auction? Do you want to be a part of it?

Operator

Also, could you please talk about some of your assumptions regarding CapEx, margin and implementation deadlines? We just want to understand where you stand and how this translates into numbers. I also have another question regarding ANCA-three. Do you have any news on this Any ballpark for the tariffs? I would love to get an update on this project.

Operator

Thank you, Daniel. Regarding transmission auctions, I'm going to ask Vice President Helio and Vice President Camilla to talk about this. Hi, good morning, Daniel. Thank you for your question. Let me go back in time.

Operator

This is our 3rd auction after the post capitalization. As he was saying, we see evolutions. The results that we saw in March are actually results from 1 year 1.5 years ago. So we're making progress not only in processes, but also in supplier relations, which brings us more competitiveness. Moving forward, this is certainly going to be on our agenda.

Operator

Transmission auctions are something that is ongoing as business development at Eletrobras. We're already thinking about the auctions in September. We have 4 sets. 1 of them is going to be subdivided, RMB 4,500,000,000. Of course, we're looking at it.

Operator

And over time, we're going to decide how we are or we are not going to be a part of it strategically. If we do believe that this opportunity will bring value to the company and that we're competitive and interested enough, then we're willing to be a part of it. Now when we think about 2025 and 2026, we expect to see another BRL 20,000,000,000 or BRL 25,000,000,000 in auctions. This is also something we're assessing. This is in our pipeline.

Operator

So this is what I have to share regarding these auctions. Camilla? Hi. Good morning, Daniel. Regarding Engra 3, specifically because of our investment agreement, We're seeing news, especially regarding the research from the BNDES, which is to be disclosed in July, I think.

Operator

Then we have a review by EPE regarding tariffs. And then right after that, tariffs will be approved by the CNPE. Recently, we saw a document from the Federal Accounting Court with 2021 numbers and a set of recommendations. Now we have a work group that is analyzing the information published by the Federal Accounting Court so that this is replicated in the Angra III project. We're doing that as we speak.

Operator

And we are following up closely on what is published by the BNDES. Thank you. Our next question is from Mr. Roberto Lira from Plural. Please go ahead and unmute.

Operator

Please go ahead, Mr. Roberto. There we go. We have Mr. Roberto here.

Operator

Hi, good morning. I apologize. I have a question regarding the process for the mediation and conciliation chamber. I know you can't go into details and I know there's secrecy here, but has there been any progress because the deadline has been extended for a month? Have you seen any progress?

Operator

Do we see something good on the horizon for this company? Hi, Roberto. I apologize, but we can't make any comments because everything is under secrecy. No problem. Thank you.

Operator

Our next question is from Mr. Marcelo Sato from Itau. Mr. Marcelo, please go ahead. My question was also about Engra, and it has already been answered.

Operator

Thank you. Thank you, Marcelo. Thank you. Let me now hand it back over to Mr. Ivan de Sousa Montero for his last closing remarks.

Operator

Thank you, ladies and gentlemen. Our Investor Relations department is always available to you. Thank you for being here today and enjoy your day. This is the end of the Eletrobras earnings release presentation. Thank you for your time and enjoy your day.

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