Dave & Buster's Entertainment Q1 2025 Earnings Call Transcript

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June 12, 2024

There are 9 speakers on the call.

Operator

Good day, and welcome to the Dave and Buster's First Quarter 20 24 Earnings Conference Call. All participants will be in a listen only mode. Please note this event is being recorded. I would now like to turn the conference over to Corey Hatton, Vice President, Investor Relations and Treasurer. Please go ahead.

Speaker 1

Thank you, operator, and welcome to everyone on the line. Leading today's call will be Chris Morris, our Chief Executive Officer and Mike Corteri, our Chief Financial Officer. After our prepared remarks, we will be happy to take your questions. This call is being recorded on behalf of Dave and Buster's Entertainment Incorporated and is copyrighted. Before we begin the discussion on our company's Q1 2024 results, I'd like to call your attention to the fact that in our remarks and our responses to questions, certain items may be discussed, which are not entirely based on historical fact.

Speaker 1

Any of these items should be considered forward looking statements relating to future events within the meaning of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. All such forward looking statements are subject to risks and uncertainties, which could cause actual results to differ from those anticipated. Information

Speaker 2

on the

Speaker 1

various risk factors and uncertainties have been published in our filings with the SEC, which are available on our website. In addition, our remarks today will include references to financial measures that are not defined under Generally Accepted Accounting Principles. Investors should review the reconciliation of these non GAAP measures to the comparable GAAP measure contained in our earnings announcement released this afternoon. Also, the presentation we will be referencing today will be made available on the Events and Presentations page of our Investor Relations website shortly after the conclusion of the call. And with that, it is my pleasure to turn the call over to Chris.

Speaker 2

All right. Thank you, Corey. Good afternoon, everyone, and thank you for joining our call today. I will begin with some brief highlights from the quarter, turn it over to Mike to walk through our Q1 financials, and then we will spend the remainder of the call presenting update on our strategic growth initiatives as we lap the 1 year anniversary of our Investor Day last June. In our Q1 of fiscal 2024, we generated revenue of $588,000,000 and adjusted EBITDA of $159,000,000 While these top line results were well below the potential we see for this business, with the choppiness we alluded to in February, we are encouraged by more recent improving top and bottom line trends in May early June, as we have scaled some of our more successful organic growth initiatives.

Speaker 2

Additionally, during the quarter, we realized more than $10,000,000 of incremental labor and marketing costs associated with the rollout of new initiatives and certain marketing tests, which we do not expect to repeat going forward. We continue to make material progress advancing our key organic growth initiatives. We've seen meaningful success growing our loyalty database through our new marketing engine, highlighting our enhanced food and beverage offering through compelling promotions, refining our games pricing strategy, driving incremental special events and clear outperformance in our remodel initiative, which we expect would lead to substantial improvement in revenue and profitability over the medium term. We also continue to open new stores at highly attractive returns on our investment and have continued to opportunistically return capital to shareholders via our share repurchase program in a highly accretive manner. I'm proud of the hard work of our dedicated team as we continue to deliver strong operating performance and generate significant free cash flow in the face of a difficult prior year comparison and the complex macroeconomic environment.

Speaker 2

We remain laser focused on delivering the $1,000,000,000 adjusted EBITDA target in the coming years. I'd now like to turn the call over to Mike to walk you through our Q1 financial results in more detail before turning to the update on our strategic growth initiatives.

Speaker 3

Thanks, Chris. We generated 1st quarter revenue of $588,000,000 and adjusted EBITDA of $159,000,000 for an adjusted EBITDA margin of 27.1 percent, a 200 basis point margin expansion versus the same period in 2019. As Chris mentioned, adjusted EBITDA in the quarter decreased in part due to $11,000,000 of incremental costs, which we do not expect to repeat, which includes labor and marketing costs related to the rollout of our new menu, our new service model and the deployment of several new systems, as well as an unsuccessful incremental marketing campaign test. Net income in the Q1 totaled $41,000,000 or $0.99 per diluted share. We reported $46,000,000 of adjusted net income or $1.12 of adjusted earnings per diluted share.

Speaker 3

Reconciliations of all non GAAP financial measures can be found in today's press release. Comparable store sales decreased 5.6% on a same week basis in the Q1 versus the prior year period. As Chris mentioned, we have seen an improving trend in this important top line metric through the 1st 5 weeks of this quarter. We generated $109,000,000 of operating cash flow during the Q1, contributing to an ending cash balance of $32,000,000 for total liquidity of $516,000,000 when combined with $484,000,000 available on our $500,000,000 revolving credit facility, net of outstanding letters of credit. We ended the year or I should say the quarter with a total net leverage ratio of 2.3 times as defined under the credit agreement.

Speaker 3

We entered into a sale leaseback agreement for the sale of 2 additional Dave and Buster's stores that opened in 2023 and anticipate generating $45,000,000 of gross proceeds from the sale in the 2nd quarter. After this sale, we still have 4 owned and operating real estate assets and 2 additional wholly owned stores coming online in the second half of 2024. As a reminder, we expect to command a premium price in the market versus other comparable real estate given our superior economic unit economics, strong credit and attractive brand attributes and commitment to being a long term tenant in the space. Turning to capital spending, we've invested a total of $113,000,000 in capital additions during the Q1, opening 3 new Dave and Busters and 1 new main event. We've already opened 1 new Dave and Busters during the Q2 of fiscal 2024 in Port St.

Speaker 3

Lucie, Florida. We expect to open a total of 15 new stores across both brands during fiscal 2024. We also have 8 incremental remodels coming online in the 2nd quarter to add to the 9 existing remodels and anticipate having a total of 45 done by the end of fiscal 2024. Thus far in fiscal 2024, we have spent 50,000,000 dollars repurchasing nearly 1,000,000 shares and we have $150,000,000 remaining on our Board approved share repurchase authorization. We see tremendous value in continuing to opportunistically repurchase our shares in an accretive manner with the excess free cash flow above and beyond what is needed to invest in our new units, accelerate our remodel program and support our organic growth initiatives.

Speaker 3

And now I'd like to turn the call back over to Chris to walk through the presentation and update on our key organic growth initiatives.

Speaker 2

All right. Thanks, Mike. As I mentioned at the start of the call, tomorrow marks the 1 year anniversary of our Investor Day, where we first unveiled our medium term strategic plan. So we thought it was important to provide a more wholesome status update of how we are tracking against this plan. We have made meaningful progress on all of our initiatives, which in their own right are meeting or exceeding expectations.

Speaker 2

We've also discovered new opportunities and initiatives ranging from SMB realized check to our optimized remodel strategy to additional incremental cost savings. We expect a substantive impact over the next several months from these initiatives scaling and rolling out from the successful test we have run. Consequently, I remain confident in our target of over $1,000,000,000 of adjusted EBITDA. We have made significant strides advancing each of our 6 key organic growth initiatives. However, as you can see on the right hand side of the slide, we are still in the early innings of most of these initiatives with meaningful upside to come.

Speaker 2

Within marketing optimization, which remains our largest revenue and adjusted EBITDA opportunity, we began by getting the right team in place and hired a new top notch CMO in December of 2023. Megan has been a phenomenal has been phenomenal her 1st 6 months. She has embraced our culture and added a significant amount of data driven rigor to our marketing engine. Under her leadership, we have engaged a new creative agency, meaningfully grown our loyalty program metrics in terms of both members and spend and substantially improved our customer engagement. Within our strategic game pricing initiative during Q1 'twenty four, we successfully completed the first increase in ship prices in over 20 years with a significant overhaul of our game system.

Speaker 2

This was just the beginning of our process to optimize game prices as we have run a number at different price levels across the portfolio to try to determine the optimal level for each store. While we have done this, we've experienced significant improvement in our amusement guest satisfaction scores, spend and sales trends. In our improved F and B initiative, we successfully implemented a new service model and throughout Q1 2024 and into Q2 2024, we have rolled out multiple phases of our new menu across the system. We've experienced improved F and B guest satisfaction scores, attachment, check size, overall sales trends and gross margins as we have done this. More recently, we have identified an additional revenue opportunity from optimizing our SMB pricing and menu mix, which we will describe in further detail later.

Speaker 2

As you know, to date, we have opened 9 remodels with 4 fully programmed remodels performing exceptionally well, up double digits in both sales and traffic relative to the prior year. Given the strong success, we've accelerated our remodel plans and have optimized our strategy to lean in on the success of these fully programmed stores to bring as many to market as possible with a strict 20% return on investment. On special events, in order to provide more accountability at the local level, we strategically reinserted 20 sales managers into the stores in the back half of twenty twenty three and ensured that their compensation was tied to top line performance. We have seen significant outperformance relative to the rest of the system at those stores relative to both prior year 2019. Based on that success, we've added over 30 additional sales managers in fiscal 'twenty four to date.

Speaker 2

We expect this to have a meaningful positive impact on the revenue trends in this segment, which are already approaching 2019 levels overall. In our tech enablement initiative, the team has worked efficiently to upgrade our IT infrastructure across the portfolio, which includes, amongst other items, outfitting our stores with Wi Fi and upgraded payment processors, which will improve guest experience and drive operational efficiencies in our stores. To date, we have completed over 50% of the system. We also rolled out server tablets across our whole system as part of enhancements to our new service model. Turning to new units, we have opened 15 new stores domestically in the last 12 months and continue to produce sizable cash on cash returns consistent with our historical levels of 40% plus.

Speaker 2

Internationally, we signed up 7 additional international franchise units committed to development, bringing our grand total to 38. In terms of cost savings, we realized all of the $25,000,000 in upsized targeted synergies from the Main Event merger and continue to go after additional opportunities as we make solid progress on the incremental $40,000,000 to $60,000,000 outlined at Investor Day. In the coming months, we have a lot of plans on each of our initiatives. On marketing optimization, we will continue to optimize our media mix and messaging and leverage our scale and presence to drive traffic. We also have a number of partnerships that we expect will help improve traffic and sales trends.

Speaker 2

We are particularly excited about a number of these partnerships and the potential impact they will have during the summer movie season as well as the upcoming fall and winter sports seasons. We believe there's still significant upside on games pricing. Through overhauls to our game system, we now have the functionality to have differentiated pricing by region. We will use that new functionality to continue to optimize the price levels of our stores. We will also make sure that going forward, we will raise prices in line with inflation, something that we have not done historically.

Speaker 2

Additionally, we are excited by the prospect of optimizing existing and developing and implementing new yield management strategies, which should help drive check during peak periods and traffic during off peak periods. We are launching the next evolution of our new menu in August, which is primarily focusing on beverage innovation and our special event menu. And we will continue to refine and improve the operating model to drive attachment and guest satisfaction scores, which continue to be at historical highs. We will increase the pace of remodels and expect to have 35 percent of the fleet completed by the end of 2024, 68% completed by 2025 and 100% by 2026. Given the encouraging results with our pilots, we plan to continue to add special event managers to our stores and markets and expect to benefit from our improved special event menu, operating model and event management capabilities.

Speaker 2

We plan to complete the integration of our new IT infrastructure in the coming quarters and implement new POS systems to optimize workflow across our stores. We are on track to open 10 more stores in 2024 with 16 additional units hitting our fleet each year in 2025 and beyond. We expect to have several international stores open in the coming months, and we will continue to leverage the D and B brand to drive more international franchise agreements. We have historically executed on our cost savings initiatives and think there's still a lot of opportunity. It is an ongoing focus for us, and you can expect to see more progress on that front in the near future.

Speaker 2

As we have been focused on executing on our plan, we have identified 3 incremental opportunities to keep driving our performance. On F and B, as we will show you later, we have realized significantly less price compared to our peers and believe there's an opportunity for us to optimize our prices and menu mix in order to close this gap. As we've discussed, our remodels continue to deliver impressive results, and we believe there's a strong opportunity to accelerate and improve the pace of these remodels. On cost savings, due to additional efforts, we believe we can take out another $10,000,000 to $20,000,000 in addition to what we announced at Investor Day. As I mentioned earlier, our marketing optimization strategy is progressing and our KPIs are clearly highlighting that.

Speaker 2

Hyper targeted promotions and data driven insights are helping us craft unique campaigns that has helped us drive website visitors up 49% and our social media engagement up multifold. Multi members who let me remind you spend more and visit 2.5 times versus non members are up 23%, which we think is very meaningful in driving spend and traffic. We believe that these strong leading indicators that customers are thinking about and engaging with us more, coupled with our other initiatives, will ultimately lead to strong same store sales growth. As we discussed, yield management is an important part of our strategy. One element of that is using targeted promotions to drive traffic during all peak periods.

Speaker 2

During the quarter, we tested a number of promotional messages to help bring in incremental customers during the week. As you would expect, some of these tests worked well and others did not, both of which provided us with significant learnings. One area we saw success was driving traffic in sales during the week. As you can see on the page, while same store sales were up versus prior year during the week, we were most excited by the almost 11% improvement in sales trends. It shows that we have started to identify some levers that can meaningfully drive the business.

Speaker 2

We will continue to test and learn in order to find the optimal mix of promotional messages in our media. As you know, we believe that our amusement offering is significantly underpriced. We showed you last year that D and B hadn't increased its ship pricing for more than 20 years and that the prices of our games were meaningfully below the prices of our competitors. We have and continue to believe that there is scope for us to thoughtfully increase our game prices, while still remaining an attractive value While we saw an improvement in amusement sales trends universally, what got us most excited was that the stores in highest price increase tiers actually saw the biggest improvement and have turned positive in amusement same store sales. Notably, we've experienced significant year over year increases in customer satisfaction despite these changes to price levels, which means that they are not materially negatively impacting the customer experience.

Speaker 2

We are very encouraged by these results, and we will be moving a significant number 2nd quarter and beyond. As we have previously discussed, we've been making a lot of improvements to our SMB offering in order to drive attachment, guest satisfaction and ultimately sales. As you can see on the page, we have been making substantive progress in those areas. Our speed of service is up meaningfully as our attachment and guest satisfaction scores. We are encouraged by these results.

Speaker 2

And importantly, as we rolled out the new menu and service model, we saw improving F and D trends throughout the quarter and subsequent to the quarter. We will continue to drive these guest metrics and expect them to continue to drive top line improvement over time. As we mentioned earlier, we have also identified another significant opportunity within F and B, specifically around realized check. The chart on this page lays out a number of publicly reported peers and their check growth relative to 2019. As you can see, on average, the peers increased check by about 22%, which is roughly in line with CPI growth over the same time period.

Speaker 2

And you can also see D and B has only realized approximately 6% check on its F and B relative to 2019. Upon investigation, we discovered that we took fewer price increases than our peers since COVID, and we also discovered that a menu change that was made in 2021 was well intentioned, but actually was constructed in a way that incentivized trade downs. We've been testing a few different ways that we can close the gap. Our initial tests have been encouraging. More to come on this topic as we learn and explore more, but we do believe that over time, we should be able to close a significant portion of this gap.

Speaker 2

Our remodels are delivering significant sales and traffic growth consistently, and we are highly encouraged by the results and excited by the opportunity to implement this across the board. In aggregate, we have seen success and increased year over year sales in the remodels we have opened to date. However, what has been most encouraging is that our fully program remodels have driven double digit growth in sales. Even more encouraging is that these remodels are also up double digits in traffic. Our plan is for almost all of the remodels going forward to be fully programmed, and we expect to have 35% of the system complete by 2024 and 100% done by 2026.

Speaker 2

As you can see, our strategy around in store sales managers for special events is bearing fruit. And stores with an in store sales manager have significantly outperformed This is what we expected as we strongly believe that local accountability and the right incentive structure can lead to meaningfully improved results in this area. Given these strong results, we've accelerated the placement of managers and will place 3 times more managers in stores in 2024 as compared to 2023. We believe having a sales manager will significantly impact the recovery of our event business to 2019 levels and beyond. Our new unit model continues to be highly compelling with our 2022 2023 cohorts delivering 40% ROIs consistently.

Speaker 2

We continue to believe in the long term potential of 5.50 stores, which we estimate is an EBITDA opportunity of $150,000,000 to $225,000,000 with long term potential of 5 50 stores in total. We continue to make progress front. We've signed 7 new franchise stores since Investor Day with a total pipeline of 38 international locations. We expect to have the 1st international locations open within the coming months, which will be a huge milestone for the company. As we highlighted at Investor Day, we believe we trade at a very low valuation and there is significant upside to our share price as we continue to execute on our key initiatives.

Speaker 2

Given the strength of our business model, as well as the clear and actionable opportunities for growth we see in this business, we do not believe DNB's current trading multiple is warranted, and we believe our stock is materially undervalued. To that end, we continue to be laser focused on executing on the most lucrative opportunities to deploy or return capital to shareholders. To date, we've repurchased $50,000,000 of shares and since 2023, we have repurchased almost 9,500,000 shares, representing approximately 20% of outstanding shares. We will continue to weigh most optimal uses of cash and monitor the share price and valuation levels to appropriately repurchase shares as the opportunity arises. So in conclusion, we've made significant progress on each initiative outlined during the 2023 Investor Day.

Speaker 2

But also want to remind you that most of these initiatives are in the early innings. In fact, we increased internal expectations on a number of initiatives, including F and B improvement, remodels and cost savings, and we remain confident in our target of $1,000,000,000 adjusted EBITDA. Given what we know about our business and its potential, we see our stock as meaningfully undervalued, and we would expect to see meaningful equity value appreciation as we scale and roll out our initiatives. So with that, operator, please open up the line for questions. Thank

Operator

The first question comes from Jake Bartlett with Truist Securities. Please go ahead.

Speaker 4

Great. Thanks for taking the question. My question was about the traffic. I'd assume that your pricing increase, your food and beverage and your gain price initiatives should have driven check up and price up. So to me, it looks like just traffic has decelerated.

Speaker 4

So the question is what is driving that deceleration? I imagine it's macro pressures, but I'd like to hear from you. It sounds like your initiatives you're encouraged by your initiatives, yet it does look like traffic is decelerating at this point. So any comment there would be helpful.

Speaker 2

Yes, sure, Jake. Well, the first thing I'll tell you is, yes, we don't as you know, we don't disclose the breakdown between check and traffic, and that's something that we haven't done for a very long period of time and that's just simply a function of traffic is just an estimate in the business. It's not an actual precise number, just given how our stores are constructed and how people use our stores. But with that said, I mean, clearly, macro trends, it's a complex macro environment and it's been challenging. But as we said in our prepared remarks, we do we are encouraged by the fact that throughout the quarter, we've seen trends improve and as our initiatives have started to take hold.

Speaker 2

And those initiatives are a combination of both price and traffic. As our initiatives have started to take hold, we have seen some improvement in the business. And that gives us a lot of confidence as we move forward, knowing that many of the initiatives are just now starting to take hold. I'd also point you to remodels. We're very excited about what we're seeing on our fully programmed remodels.

Speaker 2

And the remodel is really the best representation of our strategic vision of the future because it's everything that we're doing all wrapped into 1 along with a brand new product offering and a new look and feel for our stores. And as you heard us say, we're seeing very significant improvement in our on our fully programmed remodel stores. We're seeing double digit sales lift and double digit traffic growth in those stores. So things are improving. It's a complex macro environment, and so that's creating a little bit of headwinds, but we're very encouraged by where things are going.

Speaker 2

Got it.

Speaker 4

Great. And then just as a follow-up, you mentioned the improvement in the last 5 weeks, I think particularly in the last several weeks. What do you think is driving that improvement? Do you think it's more it's something that you're doing? Maybe in your answer, you can address kind of this how some of these initiatives are reaching scale.

Speaker 4

Maybe just explain exactly which initiatives are getting other than having more remodels, but the other initiatives, how are they becoming more and more impactful as the year progresses here and maybe as the quarters progress in the second quarter?

Speaker 2

Yes, sure. So during the quarter, we rolled out our brand new menu. At the same time, we rolled out a brand new service model. Both of those are designed in a way to elevate the guest experience, very much focused on setting our operators up for success to drive more throughput in our stores as well as to grow F and B attached. So still very early in, but all signs are looking very good.

Speaker 2

Keep in mind that these are initiatives that we tested. And I think by now, I think we've proven that we mean what we say. This is a management team that is very measured, very deliberate, and we test, we learn, we refine and then we roll. And so the new menu and the new service model are working the way that they were designed and matching what we saw during the test. And so we're encouraged by that, but it's still very much in the early innings, but we fully expect that those initiatives are going to continue to drive incremental sales.

Speaker 2

Our half off food promotion, you saw we've had a number of initiatives that we've been fine tuning on the marketing side of things to stimulate some demand off peak Monday through Thursday. And so we have all you can eat wings on Mondays Thursdays. We have the long standing evergreen value of half price games on Wednesdays. And then we wrap that with a half price food offer through loyalty member engagement. And the combination of all of those, we're very pleased with what we're seeing midweek.

Speaker 2

And so that helped as well. So we've just got we've got a number of different things, as I said, both on pricing and on traffic that are all working at different levels. And as we move forward, we'll continue just to pick up more and more momentum from here. You bet. Thank you.

Operator

The next question comes from Sharon Zackfia with William Blair. Please go ahead.

Speaker 5

Hi, good afternoon. I had some questions around the kind of full remodels. When we think about that and the ramp you're having, could you talk about kind of the downtime that you see or the inefficiencies while you're doing the remodels? And then how quickly kind of the labor normalizes once the remodel is complete? I've noticed there does seem to be some kind of labor optimization that has to occur when the new units or I should say the revamped units are kind of fully out there?

Speaker 5

And just curious on how we should think about that as you ramp this up aggressively?

Speaker 2

So in terms of the construction period, I'd say it's about 8 weeks, where the units have some negative pressure. We keep the units open. Our teams we've got a world class construction development team. They've been doing this for a very long period of time. And they are very skilled at going through a remodel and doing it in a way to where it's not it's less intrusive on the guest, and so it allows us to stay open.

Speaker 2

But we do see somewhat of a negative impact on comps for about 8 weeks. And as we start to do more and more remodels, we will start to quantify that to the extent that we feel it's necessary to understand our comp performance. I do think it's important to note when we refer to the lift that we're seeing in sales, we are excluding that construction period. So the lift that we see in remodels is a pure lift. As it relates to the labor optimization, it's now that we have the service model out there, the teams are getting they're very efficient now.

Speaker 2

We've been working on this for a very long period of time. And so we don't expect there to be any inefficiency from a labor standpoint post remodel. So our expectation is we're at the optimal level day 1.

Speaker 5

Can I ask a follow-up? I know you just have a handful right now. I mean, how are you planning to kind of grow customer awareness of the revamped offerings as this rolls out more broadly?

Speaker 2

Yes. No, that's an outstanding question. And another reason why we're so excited about this is the results that we're seeing are all done just through that local awareness. As you can imagine, once we get to a certain amount of scale, we'll be able to bring more awareness at a national level on the new product offerings and the new experiences. And so we think that that's just going that's just going to be additional fuel to the fire.

Speaker 2

And so our teams, each one of these remodels, we're doing local activation. We get the community involved before the opening to try to generate some excitement. We partner with micro influencers to get the word out. We do some earned media and then we have some paid media as well, all done in the zip code in the general zip code of the store. So all done at a local level.

Operator

The next question comes from Andrew Strelzik with BMO. Please go ahead.

Speaker 6

Hey, good afternoon. Thanks for taking the questions. I guess my first one and then I have a follow-up. But my first one, there's obviously

Speaker 4

a lot of initiatives that

Speaker 6

you guys are working on. And so I'm just trying to think about the sequencing or how you guys are going to be layering those in. And so can you kind of help frame what could be most impactful in fiscal 2024 versus what will be more kind of 2025 beyond?

Speaker 2

Sure. So without getting into a lot of specifics, I will tell you that the price initiatives that we've rolled out through our strategic game pricing are working very well. And as you heard me say, no noticeable impact at all on the guest satisfaction scores. In fact, we've seen guest satisfaction scores go up in the stores where we have the highest price increase. And so the reason that's so significant is that it does 2 things for us.

Speaker 2

1, from a pricing standpoint is now we have the ability to take price across the entire universe of product offerings. Up until this point, we were limited to only managing price through food and beverage. And so now we have the ability to drive price through the game offering, which is twothree of our business. So that's number 1. Number 2 is towards the end of the year, we believe that if things move accordingly, that we will we're continuing to evolve the technology, and we will have the ability towards the end of 2024 to start to have more of a flexible pricing model to where we can continue to drive business between peak versus off peak.

Speaker 2

And so that has us very excited. So I would say the pricing on strategic gains is very meaningful. But at the same time, the work that we've done through our food and beverage offering and the new service model should not be underestimated because we believe and we're seeing in our guest experience metrics that we are making a very noticeable impact on the guest experience. And we strongly believe that the best way to grow this business is through elevating the experience that happens in the four walls of every one of our stores. So I truly believe that the combination of the food and beverage menu and the new service model will continue to gain momentum as we move forward.

Speaker 2

The teams are going to get more skilled. We're going to continue to just take care of the guests at a higher at an elevated manner, and we believe the guests will return back with the repeat business. So the combination of those 2, I feel very good about.

Speaker 6

Okay, that's helpful. And then my follow-up is on the visitation, I guess, between cohort, specifically your loyalty customers where you're seeing nice growth in membership there and the non loyalty customers. I think you said, if I got this right, that your loyalty members visit 2.5 times as often as regular members. A year ago at the Investor Day, you said that was, I think, 1.5 times. And so you're seeing that gap widen.

Speaker 6

So I guess is that a function of just the traction that you're seeing with the loyalty members? Or are you also seeing moderation in kind of your less frequent customers underneath that? I guess I'm just trying to think about the drivers there and the implications.

Speaker 2

Yes. No, I mean, we're excited about that metric. I mean, you think about that, that's substantial, going from 1.5x to 2.5x. And we've seen a growth in our

Speaker 7

the business.

Speaker 2

We have exceptionally talented people focused on the right metrics and going through a test and learn process and continue to engage with that with our loyalty members and in a more effective way. And so and you're seeing it through those metrics. And so we believe that, that's we're just going to get better and better as we move forward. So I think we're just being smarter about it, and we've got the right people focused on it.

Operator

The next question comes from Dennis Geiger with UBS. Please go ahead.

Speaker 8

Great. Thanks guys. Chris, I wanted to ask a little bit more on sort of some of the customer behaviors that you saw in the quarter in light of of the macro pressures that you commented on and that the industry is seeing. I know you don't bring out the traffic and the food and bev versus the entertainment piece, but anything on spend, you talked a little bit about days of the week. Any kind of additional breakdown on maybe where you're seeing more pressure versus where you're seeing less pressure.

Speaker 8

If there's anything on that front to touch on?

Speaker 2

I want to so want to say on spend. One of the trends that we've noticed in the business that we discussed last quarter was on our lower income consumers. There was more weakness within lower income consumers versus moderately income and high income. And we saw some strengthening in the higher income last quarter. Those trends continued into Q1.

Speaker 2

And one of the things that as we continue to fine tune our marketing approach and get smarter about targeting the right guest and delivering the right message to that guest. One of the things that we've been very encouraged by is as we've started to focus on midweek promotions, we've actually been able to recapture some of the low income consumers. And so we've been able to return them back to Dave and Buster's. And as they return back, we've been able to convert them into our loyalty platform. And as they've converted, those individuals are engaging at a higher rate.

Speaker 2

And so we think that's just a testament to the type of work that we're doing now and just being very surgical about how we approach our guests, first understanding where the deterioration is occurring and then being very smart about getting the right message to the right guest at the right time. We still have a long ways to go to where we want to be, that's a data point that things are moving in the right direction.

Speaker 8

That's very helpful. And maybe just one more following up on the promotional side of things that you touched on there, which sounds encouraging. Just on the food promo, if there's anything more to add there on what you saw in the quarter relative to your expectations, what you attribute that to? And then what that means maybe on the go forward? You just mentioned kind of the mid week promos, which sound encouraging.

Speaker 8

Anything more on promos going forward at a high level on how you're thinking about that? Thank you.

Speaker 2

Well, I think what you're going to continue to see from us is just being going through the testing and learning process, fine tuning the process and then being very targeted in how we approach the business. I would say based on the success that we've seen in the midweek, that's something we're going to continue to focus on. We're still running half off food right now. That's not going to be an evergreen marketing approach whatsoever. But for in the near term, we're going to continue to run with that.

Speaker 2

We think it still has some legs. But we like what we're seeing on all you can eat wings. We like what we're seeing on the evergreen promotion of half off games on Wednesday. And so we really like the approach that we're taking to driving off peak demand. In terms of other promotions, we're just that's something that we're going to just be very smart about what we're doing.

Speaker 2

We have some partnerships that I mentioned during the call that we're quite excited about that we think are going to really give us some juice here in the summer months as well as in the fall. And so it's going to be a constant balance between having the right promotion, having the right partnerships and having the right pricing strategy.

Speaker 8

Appreciate it. Thanks, Chris.

Speaker 2

Yes. Thank you.

Operator

The next question comes from Brian Vaccaro with Raymond James. Please go ahead.

Speaker 7

Hi, thanks and good evening. You noted the improvement that you've seen in the last several weeks after the Q1 in below expectations. So I guess in the spirit of level setting trends and reasonable expectations, could you provide some more color on the comps that you saw sort of moving through the Q1 and how the quarter to date is trending or what a reasonable expectation would be as it relates to the Q2? Could we see comps get back to flat, if not positive? Just trying to level set expectations a bit.

Speaker 3

Yes. It's Mike here. When you think about what we were experiencing coming into the beginning of, I'd say, the calendar year, January February were tougher comps on the year over year basis. You had the weather that we saw in January. So the beginning of the calendar year started off slow for us and everybody else.

Speaker 3

As we got into January, February, we kept still seeing that lower income, that $75,000 and below customers still being challenged. That's not news to anybody. You've heard that on the news more so for the last at least 4 to I'll call it 3 to 4 months that we've seen. So sales in that period from January, February end of March were choppy, as we said on the call. Spring break this year was a much shorter period.

Speaker 3

So it did cause a little bit of what I'll call either mismatch or just a shorter period, which meant it was more condensed. So we didn't get a real benefit of a prolonged spring break where more activities would have taken place over that more prolonged period. But as we've moved out of that and got into, call it, the end of April, into May timeframe, we've seen considerable improvement in the traffic numbers. The promotions of like what we talked about half off food has helped drive in. The largest increase from a cohort perspective came in from that under $75,000 a year consumer.

Speaker 3

So that was an opportunity that we kind of continue to see and keeping that offer out there for a weekday basis. And so at this point in time, we're kind of seeing that low single digit negative comp right now. But we do see that trend getting better as we get more into the summer months at this point.

Speaker 7

All right. That's very helpful. Thank you, Mike. And on the marketing front, could you just level set what was your ad spend in the Q1? And what level of spend do you contemplate all things you know today kind of in 2024 compared to the I think it was 65,000,000 or 70,000,000 in 'twenty three?

Speaker 7

Thank

Speaker 3

you. Yes. I would say that part of the, I'll call it, lean in or a little bit more heavy spend in Q1, we have 3 larger events that we kind of got ourselves behind on or at least put the muscle effort into. The biggest one being around the spring break and the season and I should say the spring break pass, which that's the test that we alluded to in our cost of just not being as successful as we were hoping for. But we do see the marketing spend as we get further into the year to be more normalized across Q2, Q3 and Q4.

Speaker 3

It just was a little bit more heavy in Q1 that we had normally would have spent because of that, as well as helping the promotion of the half off food offer, which was really more about driving awareness and bringing customers into the building to experience the new food and new service menu or new service model.

Speaker 2

Yes. And I can jump in just to add a little bit more color about some of our comments on look, during the quarter, we had some things that worked. We had some things that didn't clearly in Q1. The two areas that where we weren't pleased with was our labor performance and the marketing spend. And so labor is very clearly, it was related to we rolled out the new food, we rolled out the new service model And we had all these different systems that were being implemented at that point in time.

Speaker 2

And we just kind of got out of line for a couple of periods. But the good news is on labor, we got it right back in line very quickly. The business has stabilized back to the numbers that we would expect, and they've been consistent throughout the month of May and heading into June. So that was a blip. We took care of it.

Speaker 2

This is a team that's always going to communicate with you directly when things are working well and also directly when things aren't. On the marketing side, the spring break pass that Kew alluded to was just it was a mistake. And it was constructed before our new CMO got here. I'll own it as a CEO of the company, but it didn't work. It was designed poorly.

Speaker 2

It had too high of a price point and had too short of a period of time. And it was about a $6,000,000 spend, and we got very little out of it. And so that's a mistake that we've learned and we're not going to repeat. And so when you look at our quarter, that's why we quantified that impact so you can have a better feel for how to think about the overall financial performance. There is over $10,000,000 there that we do not expect to occur, and we are managing this business with those learnings in mind going forward.

Speaker 7

That's helpful color. Thank you. I'll pass it along. All right. Thank you.

Operator

This concludes our question and answer session. I would like to turn the conference back over to Chris Morris for any closing remarks.

Speaker 2

All right. Thank you, operator. We continue to see a tremendous amount of upside in this business. And based on what we're seeing in terms of leading indicators of success, are very optimistic that the financial inflection point we have been driving towards is quickly approaching. Thank you all for joining.

Speaker 2

We look forward to speaking with you again soon.

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