MTY Food Group Q2 2024 Earnings Call Transcript

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July 11, 2024

There are 7 speakers on the call.

Operator

Good day, and welcome to the MTY Group Fiscal 20 24 Second Quarter Results Conference Call. All participants will be in a listen only mode. Please note this event is being recorded. I would now like to turn the conference over to Eric Laffizz. Please go ahead.

Speaker 1

Good morning, everyone. Thank you for joining us for NTY's 2nd quarter conference call for fiscal 2024. The press release and MD and A with complete financial statements and related notes were issued earlier this morning and are available on our website as well as on SEDAR. During the call, we will be referring to forward looking statements and certain numbers that are non IFRS measures. You can refer to our MD and A for more details.

Speaker 1

Please note that all figures presented on today's call are in Canadian dollars unless otherwise stated. I'd like to open with a few highlights and a look into MTY system sales for the quarter. Emerging from a difficult January February period, MTY's Q2 produced positive system sales growth for our U. S. Locations along with higher profitability and EBITDA margins in our franchising segment.

Speaker 1

More specifically, in the Q2 of 2024, quick service restaurants and fast casual restaurants have remained strong in the U. S. And reported same store sales growth of 0.3% and 0.9% respectively for the 3 month period ended May 31, 2024. The franchising segment normalized adjusted EBITDA increased 1% to reach CAD52.6 million in the quarter, compared to $51,900,000 in the Q2 of 2023, with normalized adjusted EBITDA as a percentage of revenues remaining stable at 52%. Despite higher working capital outflows, we are happy with our free cash flow production, which amounted to $1.01 per share for the quarter and $5.21 per share in the last 12 months.

Speaker 1

System sales for the quarter remained relatively stable at $1,459,000,000 a decrease of 1%. Most of the decrease in system sales came from Canada with a decline of $13,800,000 or 3%, while the U. S. Saw an improvement of $3,500,000 In Canada, the fast casual concepts drove a large portion of the decrease representing 70% of the drop. The slight increase in the U.

Speaker 1

S. Of $3,500,000 can be attributed to the gains of the QSR and fast casual locations being partially offset by a decline in our casual dining restaurants. The snack category continued to perform extremely well in the U. S. With Cold Stone, Wetzel's Pretzels, Sweet Frog, Planet Smoothie and Pinkberry all posting strong gains during the quarter.

Speaker 1

Regarding same store sales, the quarter ended May 31, 2024 saw a decrease 2.1% over the last year. Same store sales in the U. S. Were sequentially better than in Q1, with a decline of 1%, while the Canadian and international locations saw same store sales declines of 3.6% and 8.1% respectively. Digital sales for the Q2 of 2024 increased by 8% compared to the same period last year from $266,800,000 to $287,700,000 Digital sales represented 20% of total sales compared to 19% in the same period last year.

Speaker 1

Canadian digital sales are in line with the same period last year, while U. S. Digital sales saw a growth of $20,900,000 Pivoting to look at MTY location count. The company ended the quarter with 7,107 locations compared to 7,112 locations at the end of the previous quarter. During the Q2, the company's network closed 90 locations and opened 85 for a net negative 5.

Speaker 1

This quarter marks the 5th consecutive quarter of net closures being between 35 locations. Of note, 25 of closures in the Q2 are Papa Murphy's locations, which brings the total closures for this brand to 38 in the 1st 6 months. Goldstone and Wetzel's Pretzels continue to outperform when it comes to openings. As at May 31, 2024, 97% of locations were franchised or under operator agreements and the remaining 3% were operated corporately by MTY. Lastly, the company renewed a normal course issuer bid program on June 28, 2024.

Speaker 1

During the 3 month period ended May 31, 2024, the company repurchased and canceled 266,700 shares for a total consideration of $12,800,000 This brings the total to 337 1,500 shares repurchased so far this year for consideration of 16,400,000. Will now turn the call over to Renee, who will discuss MTY's financial results in greater detail.

Speaker 2

Thank you, Eric, and good morning, everyone. During the quarter, MTY's total revenues decreased slightly from $305,200,000 in Q2 2023 to $303,700,000 in the current year. Although overall revenues decreased, the U. S. Franchising segment saw an increase of 3%.

Speaker 2

This is mostly due to the increase in recurring revenue streams as well as an increase in gift card breakage revenue stemming from higher redemptions and usage of gift cards. The Canadian franchising segment, however, saw a decrease of 3%, mostly as a result of decreasing recurring revenue streams. This was the result of lower system sales, which as mentioned by Eric, decreased by 3% for the quarter compared to prior year. Globally, food processing, distribution and retail revenue decreased by 8% due to lower sales in the Canadian Retail segment, which are the result of market conditions and grocers' increased focus on promoting house labels. The U.

Speaker 2

S. Retail segment, however, saw an increase of $600,000 in revenues resulting from new listing for our Cold Stone Creamer in 2024. In terms of normalized adjusted EBITDA, we saw a decrease of 1% with $73,700,000 in the quarter compared to CAD 74.6 million in Q2 of 2023. As a reminder, normalized adjusted EBITDA excludes our SEP implementation costs. It's also important to note that while our quarterly EBITDA was lower than that of last year, it still represents the 2nd best quarter ever reported with Q2 2023 being the best in the history of MTY.

Speaker 2

The U. S. And international normalized adjusted EBITDA contributed to 73% of total normalized adjusted EBITDA, realizing an increase of 3% or 1,700,000 dollars while Canada contributed 27% of total normalized adjusted EBITDA and a decrease of 12% or $2,600,000 compared to the same period last year. For both the Canadian and U. S.

Speaker 2

And International segments, the fluctuations were primarily impacted by the changes in recurring revenue streams with operating expenses remaining relatively flat for the quarter year over year. Our franchising segment margins as well as our overall company margins stayed steady at 52% 24%, respectively, when compared to prior year. Corporate store margin saw a slight dip to 13% compared to 14% in prior year due to an overall increase in minimum wages and supply chain costs. We are optimistic, however, on the supply chain side as we see inflationary pressures stabilizing to some degree. Turning our attention to the income attributable to owners, it amounted to $27,300,000 or $1.13 per diluted share compared to $30,400,000 or $1.24 per diluted share in Q2 2023, representing a decrease of 10% year over year.

Speaker 2

The decrease is primarily attributable to lower normalized adjusted EBITDA as well as impairment charges of $3,200,000 taken on some corporately owned restaurants and higher foreign exchange losses reported on the P and L. Moving on to look at cash flows, The 2nd quarter had cash flows from operating activities of $40,600,000 compared to $51,900,000 in Q2 of 2023, a decrease of $11,300,000 mainly attributable to an unfavorable working cap variance during the quarter. The negative working capital variance stems mostly from timing of collections and payables, including promotional fund spending, 3rd party gift card sales collections and a material outstanding sum from an insurance carrier related to one of our corporate locations. Free cash flows net of lease payments decreased to $24,300,000 in the quarter or $1.01 per diluted share compared to $29,500,000 or $1.21 per diluted share in Q2 2023. The decline is the result of the working capital variance I mentioned, partly offset by a decrease in investments in capital assets during the quarter compared to prior year.

Speaker 2

Regarding liquidity and capital stock resources, as of May 31, 2024, the amount held in cash totaled 52,300,000 dollars a decrease of $6,600,000 since the end of the 2023 fiscal period. As Eric mentioned, during the 3 months ended May 31, 2024, we repurchased and canceled 266,700 shares for $12,800,000 through our NCIB and paid $6,700,000 in dividends to our shareholders. We recently had to pause our NCIB due to a covenant restriction in our credit facility agreement, limiting dividend and NCIB distribution to $50,000,000 per year. I'm happy to report that we signed an amendment yesterday, which removes this restriction. Regarding our long term debt, at the end of the Q2, we had $725,600,000 drawn from our revolving credit facility with repayments of $16,300,000 made during the quarter.

Speaker 2

During the last 12 months, we have repaid a total of $77,900,000 towards our long term debt. Interest on long term debt decreased by $1,600,000 as a result of entering into fixed interest rate swaps, which have resulted in savings of US1.5 million dollars or CAD2 1,000,000 this quarter compared to US0.6 million dollars in the same period last year. As mentioned in our subsequent events notes, we sold in early June of this year our fixed interest rate swap of $200,000,000 for a sum of $4,800,000 which will be recorded in our cash flows in our Q3. Looking ahead, I'd also like to note the upcoming quarterly dividend payment of $0.28 per share on August 15, 2024. And with us, I thank you for your time and we'll now open the lines for questions.

Speaker 2

Operator?

Operator

The first question today comes from Vishal Shreedhar with National Bank. Please go ahead. Michelle, your line is open. You may ask your question.

Speaker 3

Hi. Sorry, I was on mute. Can you talk about the lifting of the 50,000,000 dollars restriction on related to the credit agreement? And also, is that an indication that management may get more active on buybacks? And how does that relate to the comment that you made last quarter regarding possible smaller acquisitions this year?

Speaker 3

Should we think that few may have changed?

Speaker 4

Yes. Well, First thing is, the priority for us in terms of capital allocation remains to do more acquisitions in the future. So the $50,000,000 restriction was there since 2016 when we first got into that credit facility. So there was historical, I guess, restrictions that no longer applied. So our bankers were supportive and it was a really smooth amendment that we did to remove the cap that basically frees us up if we need to do more on the NCIB or more on the dividend.

Speaker 4

But priority remains to do M and A. That's what MTY does. That's how we've created value over the years and that's how we intend to create value. But that being said, we had reached our cap for the last 12 months and we needed to do something about it. So Renee and her team went with the bank and amended the facility.

Speaker 4

So we can resume buying back probably next week at some point.

Speaker 3

Okay. And with respect to acquisitions, the view is still smaller acquisitions possible this year and larger acquisitions unlikely. Is that still the view?

Speaker 4

Yes, that would probably be the view, although nothing is impossible, but we're still looking for the right acquisition at the right price. Obviously, given our current share price, it makes it a little bit more complicated. But I mean, if we find the right acquisition at the right price, we'll make we figure it out and we're going to make the M and A for the right reasons, but it's still a priority for us.

Speaker 3

Okay. And could you contrast for us the differences in same store between Canada and the U. S? Is that due to is there any specific reason for that or is that just generally economic factors?

Speaker 4

Well, the mix of brands we have in both countries is very different. So I wouldn't necessarily call out on the difference in the consumer behavior or anything. I would probably call out the mix of brands we have. Our snack category in the U. S.

Speaker 4

Performed extremely well and that's a category we don't have as much in Canada. Whereas in Canada, for example, the 2 sushi brands that performed spectacularly well since COVID, had a little bit more of a sluggish quarter, maybe because of the price point or maybe because of other factors that we're still exploring. So I think the mix of brands we have in both countries is probably the main differentiator here.

Speaker 3

Okay. And then maybe just to get your thoughts on, we've been hearing comments particularly related to some of these large U. S. QSRs related to increasing promotional activity and value offers. And if you're seeing that percolate more into the brands that you operate in terms of the aggressiveness of promo or is it so more an experiential focus for you guys?

Speaker 4

Yes, the activity definitely intensified. So there's a lot more focus on, I won't even call it value, I'll call it price. So definitely a lot more focus, maybe more so in the U. S. And in Canada.

Speaker 4

But I mean, we can't necessarily play that game with the big guys. We're going to focus on the experiential nature of what we're doing with our restaurants. We do have to have some value offers with each of our brands. We need to have a price point that will attract consumers into our stores. And we are trying different things and we are testing the water with different brands, with different promotional activities to see what gets traction and what doesn't.

Speaker 4

So, but yes, you're correct in saying the promotional activities dramatically intensified, especially in some spaces. If you look at pizza and burgers, for example, it's really intensified. In other spaces, maybe not as much. So we need to keep the standard for our brands and we don't want to set a new standard where price point would be too low or the expectation would be too low. We also need to preserve the food quality that we have, but it's definitely a lot more competitive than it's been in the last few years.

Speaker 3

Okay, thanks. I'll pass it on.

Operator

The next question comes from Tom Callahan with RBC Capital Markets. Please go

Speaker 3

ahead. Thanks. Good morning. Good morning, guys. Maybe just a follow-up on same store sales there.

Speaker 3

Eric, can you talk a bit about what you're kind of seeing in terms of traffic or average spend and kind of the drivers between the 2?

Speaker 4

Yes. It really depends for which brand we're looking at. For some brands where we have a little bit more promotional activity or we're in a space that's a little bit more competitive, we really need to focus on traffic. And the average basket is a little bit more complicated. For some other brands, I mean, we haven't really taken pricing in the last 12 months for most of our brands.

Speaker 4

So we're I mean, we need to drive traffic, we need to drive the average basket, we need to drive the experience, but it's tough to preserve the existing basket compared to 12 months ago, it's a little bit more difficult. So we really need to drive traffic to maintain sales.

Speaker 3

Okay. And then

Speaker 4

maybe just follow-up.

Speaker 3

Can you just provide maybe a bit of an update with respect to what you're seeing thus far in California, just given the wage legislation that came in a few months ago?

Speaker 4

Yes. California is not the easiest environment for restaurant operators for sure. What we're seeing is that the consumers were, for the most part, ready to receive the price increase. They expected it. I think pretty much everyone in the industry has increased their prices to some level to compensate for the increased cost.

Speaker 4

But we're I mean, we don't make the rules. We have to follow them. Unfortunately, that has adverse consequences on us. But we haven't seen a dramatic impact on the price on the consumer traffic yet. I'm not saying there's not going to be one, but for the moment, I guess, people are getting accustomed to it.

Operator

The next question comes from Michael Glen with Raymond James. Please go ahead.

Speaker 5

Hey, good morning. Just to start on the sale of the fixed interest swap. Maybe, Renee, like how does this actually impact your interest expense relative to where it's been over Q1 and Q2? Does it change it meaningfully?

Speaker 2

It won't it actually won't have an impact as it's going to be amortized because this was a perfect hedged instrument. It's going to be amortized interest expense until the original end date, which was April 2026. So it will continue to you will continue to see about $500,000 on a quarterly basis hitting our interest expense.

Speaker 5

Okay, perfect. And then Eric, can you provide an update on your on the ERP implementation and how that's progressing, what we should expect over a few over the coming quarters?

Speaker 4

Yes, it's progressing well actually. We're still on budget with this one. I know that's the major concern for everyone. The team is progressing really well. We have a really strong team around that project.

Speaker 4

We wanted to make sure we had tight controls around it. And it's progressing well. I think now that it's about to intensify as we started really the programming of the solution and deploying modules. So you should see the intensity going up for the next I guess for the next 12 months, the intensity of the spend and the intensity of the effort is going to increase.

Speaker 5

And what's the risk that we that investors see some type of operational disruption as you go through deploying modules and intensifying this? I'm just trying to get a sense, is that something that could happen?

Speaker 4

Yes. I don't see how that would disrupt the business. It might make some people's lives a little bit more complicated during the transition period. But again, we have pretty tight processes around that the training and the change management. But I don't think there would be anything external facing that could possibly happen that would disrupt our business.

Speaker 4

It's not connected to our POS. It's not connected to the main systems we use to do business. Maybe that's the difference between MTY and some, for example, manufacturing or distribution companies that really depend on these systems to make production, schedule production or schedule routes, for example. In our case, it's all different systems that will be integrated, but that won't necessarily depend on SAP or that won't be affected by the SAP solution.

Speaker 5

Okay. And can you speak to I think you've been looking at some initiatives over time, but like where delivery penetration sits with MTY in the U. S. And Canada right now? Is this still an opportunity for the company?

Speaker 5

Have you been is there investments that have been made? I'm just trying to get an assessment of where the business sits on delivery.

Speaker 4

Yes. For sure, it's still an opportunity. We're at 20% digital. It's not all of it is delivery. Obviously, we have a lot of takeout.

Speaker 4

What we're seeing right now is that consumer is a little bit more sensitive to the cost of these aggregators. It adds up. Obviously, we increased our prices on the delivery apps and then they take their delivery fees and everything. So it really adds up. So we're seeing consumers being a little bit more sensitive to that cost and maybe using the takeout or skip the line options a little bit more, which is more favorable for MTY obviously.

Speaker 4

So there's a little bit of both. So we want to grow both, but the important factor here is that delivery orders need to be incremental. If the delivery just an order that would have been internal before, then that becomes very unfavorable for us. So we're trying to maximize both and we're trying to grow all the sales channel, but we're trying to be smart about it at the same time.

Speaker 5

Okay. And just one more for me. The corporate it looks like you sold a handful of corporate stores in the quarter. Is there any strategic shift or should we think about the sale of some more stores as we go through the balance of this year and into next

Speaker 4

year? Yes, this quarter was actually pretty quiet on the sale of corporate stores. We will have a few corporate stores being sold in Q3. We don't want to at least there's no intention in the short term to shift the portfolio corporate stores. We will sell some corporate stores.

Speaker 4

We'll be opportunistic about that. So we will see a few sales in Q3, probably in Q4 as well. But it's not going to be a massive shift of selling 100 stores or something like that. There is no such initiative at the moment.

Operator

The next question comes from Cheryl Zhang with TD Cowen. Please go ahead.

Speaker 6

Cowen. This is Cheryl calling in for Derek. So my first question is on the wage. So would you be able to quantify or maybe give us a sense a rough sense of any impact of the California wage increase on your U. S.

Speaker 6

EBITDA margin this quarter?

Speaker 4

Yes, this is I don't have the number handy, but we did have to increase price for to compensate for it. We did not fully reflect the price increase, the increase in the price. So there's a little bit that Renee made a comment about it that it did affect our margins adversely. It's not a super material amount, but it's something we're watching for.

Speaker 6

Okay. Thanks for that. And then I believe previously you announced some cost control measures and it looks like you may have started to show in your margins, particularly on the U. S. Side.

Speaker 6

Just curious if you could talk about some of the initiatives that you have implemented so far and maybe give us a sense of where you are in the process?

Speaker 4

Yes. In the U. S, we combined a few divisions. So we combined the Papa Murphy's division and the barbecue division. We also combined the Wetzel's pretzels with Kahala.

Speaker 4

So we basically reduced the number of divisions, tried to have our strongest people work on the brands and consolidate the knowledge and consolidate the expertise we have for different things for these various brands. So for the U. S, I would say we're pretty much done. There's probably some action to come in the future in Canada and in other functions. But there's nothing major coming in the U.

Speaker 4

S. That I'm aware of at the moment.

Speaker 6

Okay. That's very helpful. And last one with Fireworks. So you noted strong performance of your stock brands, particularly on Cold Stone, West O'Prezzles and Sweet Frog. So these are arguably on the more discretionary side and Cold Stone is a higher price point dessert brand.

Speaker 6

So in an environment where consumers are looking for value and are cautious about spending, just wondering if you could help us understand what's really driving the strong performance in those brands?

Speaker 4

Yes. It's just we have terrific brands with terrific products and that's always the key success factor. If you have something that's craveable and if you have something that consumers will really want and that's experiential, then that helps. And then we have really good teams with really good franchisees. The marketing is outstanding.

Speaker 4

So we just need to be exceptional at every function we have and everything we do, and those brands are. So you talk about Cold Stone, you talk about Wetzel's Pretzels, those are exceptional brands we have. And this needs to set the tone for all the other brands we have in the portfolio.

Operator

This concludes our question and answer session. The conference has now concluded. Thank you for attending today's presentation. You may now disconnect.

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