Popular Q2 2024 Earnings Call Transcript

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July 24, 2024

There are 11 speakers on the call.

Operator

Hello, and welcome to the Popular Incorporated 2Q Earnings Call. My name is Elias, and I'll be coordinating your call today. I'd now like to hand over to Paul Cardillo, Investor Relations Officer at Popular. Please go ahead.

Speaker 1

Good morning, and thank you for joining us. With us on the call today is our CEO, Ignacio Alvarez our President and COO, Javier Ferrer our CFO, Jorge Garcia and our CRO, Lidio Soriano. They will review our results for the Q2 and then answer your questions. Other members of our management team will also be available during the Q and A session. Before we begin, I would like to remind you that on today's call, we may make forward looking statements regarding Popular such as projections of revenue, earnings, expenses, taxes and capital structure, as well as statements regarding Popular's plans and objectives.

Speaker 1

These statements are based on management's current expectations and are subject to risks and uncertainties. Factors that could cause actual results to differ materially from these forward looking statements are set forth within today's earnings release and our SEC filings. You may find today's press release and our SEC filings on our webpage at popular.com. I will now turn the call over to our CEO, Ignacio Alvarez.

Speaker 2

Good morning, and thank you for joining the call. Before I discuss the highlights for the Q2, I am pleased to report that today we announced a 13% increase in our quarterly common stock dividend from $0.62 to $0.70 per share, commencing with a dividend payable in the Q1 of 2025 and a $500,000,000 common stock repurchase authorization. These actions evidence the strength of our capital position, which allows us to continue to invest in our franchise and serve the needs of our customers, while also returning capital to our shareholders. Please turn to Slide 3. We are pleased to report a strong Q2 achieving net income of $178,000,000 Excluding the impact of the FDIC special assessment and tax withholding matter on the results for the Q1, net income increased by 43,000,000 The results in the Q2 were driven by higher net interest income and lower provision for credit losses.

Speaker 2

Our ending loan balances increased by $473,000,000 during the quarter. BPPR achieved loan growth of $509,000,000 reflecting growth across almost all lending segments. Popular Bank saw a $36,000,000 decrease in loan balances driven by $140,000,000 commercial loan payoff that offset growth in construction loans. Deposit balances increased by approximately $1,700,000,000 driven by higher level of Puerto Rico government deposits. Our net interest margin increased by 6 basis points to 3.22 percent mainly driven by higher average loan balances and the repricing of loans and reinvestment of securities in a higher interest rate environment.

Speaker 2

This was partially offset by higher deposit costs. Non interest income increased by 2,000,000 dollars to $166,000,000 Excluding the additional FDIC special assessment and the expenses associated with the prior period tax expense, operating expenses increased by $7,000,000 driven by professional fees and transaction related costs. Credit quality trends improved in the quarter with lower net charge offs, NPLs and NPL inflows. The credit trends in the Puerto Rico unsecured consumer segment have stabilized. Tangible book value per share of 62 point $7.1 increased by $2.65 driven by our quarterly net income and lower unrealized losses in our investment portfolio.

Speaker 2

Please turn to Slide 4. Consumer spending remained healthy. Combined credit and debit card sales increased by 5% compared to the Q2 of 2023. Our auto loan and lease balances increased by $129,000,000 compared to the Q1 as demand for new cars continue to be strong in Puerto Rico. Mortgage loan balances at BPPR increased by $107,000,000 in the 2nd quarter, driven primarily by home purchase activity and our existing strategy to retain FHA loans in portfolio.

Speaker 2

Business activity in Puerto Rico remains solid as reflected in the positive trends in total employment, consumer spending and other economic data. The tourism and hospitality sector continues to be a source of strength for the local economy. Passenger traffic at the San Juan International Airport increased by 8% in the Q2 compared to the Q2 of 2023. Hotel occupancy was flat year over year in the first half of twenty twenty four and the average daily rate and RevPAR were up slightly year to date compared to the same period a year ago. There is a significant amount of committed federal funds that have yet to be dispersed.

Speaker 2

The pace of disbursement of these funds has accelerated and we anticipate that they will support economic activity for several years. We remain optimistic about the future of our primary market and are well positioned to support our clients during the coming years. In short, we are pleased with our financial performance for the quarter, particularly in Puerto Rico, where continued loan growth and improved credit metrics helped contribute to our increase in net interest income and support our optimistic outlook for the balance of the year. On that note, I now turn the call over to Jorge for more details on our financial results.

Speaker 3

Thank you, Ignacio. Good morning and thank you all for joining the call today. As Ignacio stated, we reported net income of $178,000,000 in the Q2, dollars 43,000,000 higher than the prior period's adjusted results. We're pleased with the core results, particularly the NII growth and the expansion of the NIM. Net interest income increased by $18,000,000 Our net interest margin increased by 6 basis points on a GAAP basis and 10 basis points on a tax equivalent basis, driven by the repricing of loans and securities and higher balances.

Speaker 3

Loan growth improved this quarter to 1.5% year to date driven by BBBR where we saw loan growth across nearly all categories, led by commercial, lending, auto and mortgage originations. The underlying economic activity in Puerto Rico remains strong. However, the demand for credit in our U. S. Market continues to be less than we had anticipated at the beginning of the year.

Speaker 3

As a result, we now expect consolidated loan growth to be towards the low end of our original 3% to 6% guidance. Consolidated customer deposit balances, excluding Puerto Rico public deposits were flat as increases in time deposits at Popular Bank were offset by outflows at BPPR. However, average customer balances during the quarter were higher, including non interest bearing demand deposits. At the end of the Q2, Puerto Rico public deposits were $19,700,000,000 up $1,700,000,000 compared to Q1 and above the upper end of our year end guidance range. Q2 is typically the peak in public deposit balances and is mostly related to tax receipts.

Speaker 3

Normal annual seasonality should result in these balances trending lower for the rest of the year. By the end of 2024, we expect public deposits to be near the upper end of our $15,000,000,000 to $18,000,000,000 guidance. While higher balances of public deposits contribute to higher NII, approximately CAD 800,000,000 of low cost government related accounts managed by our Fiduciary Services Group were repriced during the quarter to market linked rates, offsetting in part the benefit of the higher balances. As a result of the shift of the deposit mix toward higher cost deposits, along with a slower loan growth in the U. S, we now expect our year over year growth in NII to be 8% to 10%.

Speaker 3

Non interest income was $166,000,000 an increase of $2,000,000 from Q1, driven primarily by higher credit card and debit card fees from customer transaction activity. We continue to expect non interest income to be approximately $160,000,000 to $165,000,000 per quarter. During the Q2, we were also very pleased to see the continued improvement in credit metrics. The provision for credit losses of $47,000,000 was CAD 26,000,000 lower than the Q1. Total operating expenses were CAD470,000,000 or CAD7 1,000,000 higher than last quarter's adjusted operating expense.

Speaker 3

The increase was driven by professional fees due to advisory related expenses, an increase to reserves for operational losses and higher transactional expenses tied to client activity. These increases were offset in part by lower personnel expenses, which are traditionally higher during the Q1 of the year due to annual incentive awards and payroll taxes. We continue to expect total 2024 expenses in a range of $1,89,000,000 to $1,950,000,000 Our effective tax rate for the quarter was 19% compared to a 25% adjusted tax rate in the prior quarter as we benefited from higher tax exempt income and certain tax credit during the quarter. We continue to expect the effective tax rate for the year to be in the range of 21% to 23%. Please turn to Slide 6.

Speaker 3

Net interest margin increased by 6 basis points. On a taxable equivalent basis, NIM was 3.48%, an increase of 10 basis points. The increase was driven by higher earning asset yields and balances. This benefit was partially offset by higher interest expense on deposits due to increased average balances of public deposits at BPPR and time deposits at Popular Bank. During the quarter, we continue to see the benefits in the contribution of the investment portfolio as low yielding maturities are reinvested in short term fee bills that are tax exempt in Puerto Rico.

Speaker 3

This improved the tax affected yield of securities portfolio by 24 basis points to 3.47%. In BPPR, the cost of total deposits increased by 2 basis points to 1.83%. The total deposit cost at BPPR continued to be impacted by the proportion of public deposits to total deposits. At Popular Bank, deposit costs increased by 3 basis points during the quarter. This change reflected a significant stabilization when compared to an increase of 23 basis points in Q1.

Speaker 3

We expect to continue NIM expansion throughout the rest of 2024. Please turn to Slide 7. Regulatory capital levels remain strong. Our CET ratio of 16.5% increased by 12 basis points from Q1. Tangible value per share at the end of the quarter was $62.71 an increase of $2.65 per share from Q1.

Speaker 3

Return on tangible common equity improved by nearly 500 basis points in the quarter to 11.8%. We continue to target a sustainable 14% return on tangible common equity by the end of 2025. As Ignacio mentioned, we announced an increase in our quarterly common dividend of $0.08 per share to 0 point 7 $0 We expect our Board to approve and declare this dividend in Q4 for payment in the Q1 of 2025 and a CAD 500,000,000 common stock repurchase authorization. We expect to execute the stock repurchases in the open market. The timing and quantity of the repurchases will be subject to various factors, including market conditions, our capital position and financial performance.

Speaker 3

We will provide quarterly updates on our activity as part of our earnings webcast and SEC filings. With that, I turn over the call to Lidio.

Speaker 4

Thank you, Jorge, and good morning. Credit quality metrics improved from the Q1 with the corporation's mortgage and commercial portfolios continue to reflect credit metrics significantly below pre pandemic levels, while credit quality metrics continue to normalize for Puerto Rico's consumer portfolios. We continue to closely monitor changes in the macroeconomic environment and on borrower performance. Given higher interest rate and inflationary pressures, we remain encouraged by the performance of our loan book. Turning to Slide number 8.

Speaker 4

Non performing assets and non performing loans decreased during the quarter driven by the BBPR segment. NPLs in BBPR decreased by $12,000,000 reflecting improvements across most loan categories. NPLs in the Popular Bank segment remained flat, driven by the return to accrual of a $17,000,000 mortgage loan offset by a $17,000,000 commercial NPL inflow. OREO decreased in BBPR by $10,000,000 driven by the sale of a commercial real estate property. Inflows of NPLs decreased by $2,000,000 In DBPR, total inflows increased by $8,000,000 driven by higher mortgage inflows, while in Popular Bank, inflows decreased by $9,000,000 as last quarter activity included a single 17,000,000 dollars mortgage loan that enter NPL, offset in part by higher commercial inflows by $7,000,000 The ratio of NPL to total loans held in portfolio remained flat at 1%.

Speaker 4

Turning to Slide number 9. Net charge off amounted to 54,000,000 dollars or annualized 61 basis points of average loans held in portfolio compared to $62,000,000 or 71 basis points in the prior quarter. Net charge off in DDPR decreased by $7,000,000 driven by lower consumer by $5,000,000 and lower commercial by $2,000,000 The decrease in consumer net charge off were driven by lower auto by $4,000,000 dollars and lower personal loans by $1,000,000 In Popular Bank, net charge off decreased by $1,000,000 due to lower consumer net charge offs. Given the credit performance in the first half of the year and our outlook for the second half, we now expect net charge off to be near the low end of our initial full year guidance of 65 basis points to 85 basis points. Please turn to Slide 10.

Speaker 4

The allowance for loan losses decreased by $9,000,000 to $730,000,000 In BBTR, the AECL remained flat as increases driven by higher commercial loan volumes, higher qualitative reserves and changes in credit quality were offset by changes in the macroeconomic scenarios and net charge off. In Popular Bank, the ACL decreased by $9,000,000 mainly driven by lower reserves for the commercial portfolio due to risk rating improvements. The corporation ratio of ACL to loans held in portfolio decreased slightly from 2.11 percent to 2.05%, while the ratio of ACL to NPLs improved slightly from 209% in the previous quarter to 214% this quarter. Deposition for loan losses was $44,000,000 compared to $72,000,000 in the prior quarter, reflecting lower losses, changes to credit quality and improvements in macroeconomic scenarios. In BBBR, the provision was $49,000,000 compared to $61,000,000 dollars while in Popular Bank, the provision was a benefit of $4,000,000,000 compared to an expense of $11,000,000 in the Q1.

Speaker 4

To summarize, credit quality metrics improved during the Q2 and we remain encouraged by the performance of our loan book. With that, I would like to turn the call over to Ignacio for his concluding remarks.

Speaker 2

Thank you, Lidio and Jorge for your update. Our results for the first half of twenty twenty four were strong, driven by higher net interest income and expanding net interest margin and improved credit quality. We are continuing to execute on our transformation to better serve our customers and drive returns over time. We are investing in talent and technology to deepen our relationships with clients and maximize the opportunities inherent in our unique franchise. I am optimistic about our prospects for the remainder of the year.

Speaker 2

Business trends in Puerto Rico continue to be positive and we are well positioned to participate in the economic activity that is expected to be generated in the coming years. We are mindful of the responsibility we have to Puerto Rico as the leading banking institution and to all the communities that we proudly serve. In June, we released our annual corporate sustainability report. We continue to focus on providing opportunity for progress, protecting the environment and promoting trust. One of the highlights of the report included the financing of 1 of the largest transactions to date in the renewable energy sector in Puerto Rico, a solar farm that produces enough electricity to supply the needs of approximately 7,000 homes in Puerto Rico.

Speaker 2

Finally, providing opportunity in our community starts with ensuring Popular remains a great place to work. I want to thank all our colleagues for their continued education and commitment to serve our customers and contribute to our success. We are now ready to answer your questions.

Operator

Thank Our first question comes from Kelly Motta with KBW. Your line is open. Please go ahead.

Speaker 5

Hi, good morning. Thanks for the question. Good morning, Kelly. I would like to start out with the capital plan. It certainly came at least a quarter sooner than I had expected.

Speaker 5

Just wondering, I know you guys were waiting for some clarity on the outlook before coming out with something. Has anything changed in terms of your comfort level with where you're viewing the capital position and the outlook ahead that allowed you to come out with this in July? And also wondering any guideposts we should be thinking about in terms of what your constraining capital ratio is and how you're thinking about stepping in with the buyback, especially with the run we've had in the stock? Thanks.

Speaker 2

Yes. Obviously, we hear our investors and our Board and management is very conscious that people wanted a statement from us on where we were on a capital return. We worked very hard with our group. We went through some analysis of our credit book and what we thought about the future and we thought that the $500,000,000 authorization was the appropriate amount appropriate amount given the circumstances. We also thought given our view that the dividend increase was important, I think that's an important piece of the puzzle.

Speaker 2

So obviously, that shows our confidence in the future. In terms of where we're going, we're going to do open market purchases. We still think that the stock is fairly valued. So we I really have more insight than that, but we still believe that the stock is fairly valued, especially relative to our peers and others in the industry.

Speaker 5

Got it. Okay. That's really helpful. And then with the NII outlook being reduced, just a point of clarification, the 8% to 10% growth that you're currently projecting for this year, is that on a GAAP basis or an FTE, because there are some moving parts with the FTE adjustment this year that does make it somewhat meaningful?

Speaker 3

Yes. Thank you for the question, Kelly. All of our guidance is GAAP basis.

Speaker 5

Got it. That's helpful. And with your outlook, for government deposits to decline off of that $19,700,000,000 level where we're at now. As we look ahead, should we be thinking about the balance sheet as being relatively flat from here given the movement in government funds between now year end?

Speaker 3

I mean, certainly, if I would expect the movement. If you see a decrease in deposits, we would not be leveraging up the balance sheet with alternative sources of liquidity. So I think that's a fair statement in terms of more or less around that level of decrease of public funds.

Speaker 5

Got it. Thank you. I'll step back.

Operator

We now turn to Timo Braziler with Wells Fargo. Your line is open. Please go ahead.

Speaker 6

Hi, good morning.

Speaker 2

Good morning.

Speaker 6

Wondering on the $800,000,000 of low cost government deposits managed by fiduciary services that were repriced this quarter. Just wondering what drove that? When did that happen in the quarter? And how much of a headwind from an average standpoint will flow into 3Q from those actions?

Speaker 3

Thank you, Timur. First, the repricing is baked into our guidelines. So our updated guidance takes into account this repricing. It happened towards the end of the quarter and I think at the beginning of June. So I mean, I don't know if there's any other part of the question there, Timur.

Speaker 3

I think I missed the part.

Speaker 6

Just what drove that decision?

Speaker 3

As you know, I mean these are client relationships. We have communications and conversation with our clients and we react to market conditions and client expectations.

Speaker 6

Okay. And then maybe just following up on Kelly's FTE question. Can you just give us an update on where you expect FTE for the year in context of the updated guide? How much of that revision was driven by the issuance? Yes, we

Speaker 3

don't usually get guidance on an FTE basis. Our guidance is all GAAP basis. The tax rate, we do provide you the tax rate, so it allows you to at least get a sense of the flow to EPS.

Speaker 6

Okay. But should we expect further reinvestment into tax advantage T bills or has that remixing largely played out?

Speaker 3

Now as you probably remember, we have about $1,000,000,000 a quarter in maturities in our investment portfolio. We currently continue to invest in T bills or fund loan growth. So ultimately, the we haven't exhausted our potential for taxes and securities. Okay. But again, all this and that I can go as hard.

Speaker 3

And tax effective rate.

Speaker 7

Okay, got it.

Speaker 6

And then just last for me, just around the cadence for buybacks, is the expectation that we go back to a January authorization as we've seen in the past? Or is this $500,000,000 more or less for a year and the next Board authorization or Board decision will take place a year from now in July?

Speaker 2

No, no. This is an open ended authorization. We don't have a time limit on it. And we will execute under this authorization. And if things change, we'll let you know.

Speaker 2

But this

Speaker 3

is an open end authorization with no specific time limit. And we're not expecting to go back to the annual January cadence. We want to have the flexibility to react to market conditions.

Operator

Great. Thanks, Matt. Our next question comes from Jared Shaw with Barclays. Your line is open. Please go ahead.

Speaker 7

Hey, good morning. Maybe first just

Speaker 8

if we

Speaker 7

look at the fees and expenses to get into your guidance range, where should we, I guess, expect to see lower fees and where should we expect to see a faster pace of expense growth?

Speaker 3

Let's talk about the expenses first. There is seasonality in expenses, for example, merit increases, our personnel costs are a significant portion of our expenses. Our merit increase schedule is in the summer. So that is an expense that will be accretive or an incremental expense that we'll see in the second half of the year. We continue to have efforts around the transformation, professional fees, technology.

Speaker 3

These are not symmetric throughout the year. So in terms of fee income, there is there are a lot of components to that fee income. Some of it comes from our equity pickup investment in Banco Biachare in the Dominican Republic. There's transactional activity from clients. I There are a lot of variances and frankly $2,000,000 or $3,000,000 up or down any quarter, it's not an unusual variance.

Speaker 7

Okay. All right. Thanks. And then when we look at credit, good trends in credit charge offs, do you think that we've seen peak consumer charge offs here? And where should we expect to see the ACL settle out?

Speaker 7

Is this a good rate as a ratio of loans? Or is there still room for that to move lower?

Speaker 9

A lot of that what you have is going to be economy dependent. We feel and we're comfortable with the state of the economy and the outlook for the economy going forward. So I'll leave it at that. I mean, the rate and net charge off on the top of the Asia will depend on the economy.

Speaker 7

Okay. But so right now though, you still feel pretty confident on the general trajectory at this point, it sounds like?

Speaker 9

We do, yes.

Speaker 7

Great. Thank you.

Operator

We now turn to Jared Cassidy with RBC. Your line is open. Please go ahead.

Speaker 8

Hi, good morning. This is Thomas Leddy calling on behalf of Gerard. Loan growth has remained pretty solid now for range. As you look ahead given the remaining sort of idiosyncratic tailwinds for the island specifically, could loan growth for BPPR actually accelerate from here as some of the construction projects you guys have referenced historically sort of come online?

Speaker 2

This is Ignacio. I think we would reiterate the guidance we've given. I think we feel pretty good about the economic activity in Puerto Rico. We are seeing a lot of positive economic activity, investment from outside the island, entrepreneurs locally. So we feel pretty good.

Speaker 2

And if you saw the results, we are seeing long growth in Puerto Rico. What's holding us back a little bit is that the U. S, like many of our peers in the U. S, especially that focused a lot on commercial real estate, that loan growth has been slower and slower than we expected. So again, in general, we reiterate the guidance, we feel good about Puerto Rico, but we feel that the U.

Speaker 2

S. Has been a bit slower than we actually had expected.

Speaker 8

Okay, that's helpful. And then I guess just more broadly, can you give us some color regarding your appetite for actually growing that Mainland portfolio in the face of what's expected to remain a pretty uncertain credit environment in the back end of this year and into early next year?

Speaker 2

I would say generally, I don't really think we have some there. We're comfortable with the portfolio that we have, but obviously we've been as most banks, we have been prudently looking at the market and we are being careful, especially in the commercial real estate sector, but we're very comfortable with the portfolio we had. So again, there is a lot of pressure in general from regulators and others to sort of make sure your growth in that area is cautious. So we'll be cautious like the rest of the market commercial real estate. But we have other areas that we're hopeful.

Speaker 2

The condominium association, I think, is an area we're expecting to see some more growth from. But yes, we'll be cautious with the commercial real estate just like everyone else.

Speaker 8

Okay. That's helpful. Thank you for taking my questions.

Operator

We now turn to Samuel Bargo with UBS. Your line is open. Please go ahead.

Speaker 10

Good morning. I just wanted to turn back to those lower cost of government deposits for your question. After the $800,000,000 that's already been repriced, how much more do you have in lower cost balances? And can you give any sense for the sort of difference between the reset yield and the original one?

Speaker 3

Yes. We not going to give specific information on the reset. I would tell you that you can see in the levels and yield, these deposits are categorized as time deposits, so you can get a sense of the increase in the cost in that segment of our levels and yield schedule. In terms of other large low cost, I'm not aware of any significant amount that would reprice or subject to repricing.

Speaker 10

Got it. Thank you very much.

Operator

We have a follow-up question from Kelly Motta with KBW. Your line is open. Please go ahead.

Speaker 5

Hey, thank you so much for letting me back in. I have, two questions, if I could sneak in. The first is on, just a clarification on the tax rate. The tax advantage income brought down the tax rate considerably this quarter from last and I think you also had some discrete items impacting last quarter. I know you guide on a full year basis, but would it be fair to say within that range, 2Q is a good starting point to for forecasting the back half of this year?

Speaker 3

I think as you mentioned, the quarter did have some discrete events that may not recur. So that is something that I wouldn't certainly not multiply times 3, I guess. Got it. So I mean, we've given the guidance, I think you can work on to it's GAAP guidance, so you know what the Q1 was, Q2, and I think you can get a sense of what the risk of the asset has to achieve it.

Speaker 5

Fair enough. And then, I was hoping, if you could spend a minute talking about your insurance subsidiary. We've seen a couple of banks sell those at a considerable gain as well as your stake in the Dominican Bank. Just wondering if how management is viewing these businesses and if there's any potential gains that could be harvested from that?

Speaker 2

Yes. Let me start by saying we don't have any current plans to sell either of those investments. Obviously, like any business, we always we look at every opportunity, but it is not in our current plans. In terms of the BHD, that's been a very successful investment for us. It produces a steady amount of income every quarter.

Speaker 2

As mentioned, Otis mentioned, the equity pickup has been very good. They also produce a cash dividend, which brings money to the holding company. It's a well run bank in a growing economy. So we'd have to have a much better use for our money. The tax implication of selling that would not be great, the Dominican Republic does.

Speaker 2

So it wouldn't be right now, we've looked at it, but really, I think we're going to hold that investment. And our insurance, it's very important for us. It's one of those things. And one of our thesis is how we can become more embedded in the lives of our clients. And I think insurance is an area in Puerto Rico where many of our citizens are underinsured and we think we can add value to them by bringing a comprehensive suite of services.

Speaker 2

So that's not something that in my mind right now we would sell. I think it's an important part of our fee business and we like it.

Speaker 5

Great. Thanks for taking the time.

Operator

This concludes our Q and A. I will now hand back to Ignacio Alvarez, CEO for closing remarks.

Speaker 2

Thank you very much for joining us today and for your questions. And we look forward to updating you and talking to you again on our Q3 results in October. Thank you very much.

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