NYSE:ATR AptarGroup Q2 2024 Earnings Report $151.70 +3.65 (+2.47%) As of 03:59 PM Eastern Earnings HistoryForecast AptarGroup EPS ResultsActual EPS$1.37Consensus EPS $1.36Beat/MissBeat by +$0.01One Year Ago EPS$1.23AptarGroup Revenue ResultsActual Revenue$910.10 millionExpected Revenue$930.15 millionBeat/MissMissed by -$20.05 millionYoY Revenue Growth+1.60%AptarGroup Announcement DetailsQuarterQ2 2024Date7/25/2024TimeAfter Market ClosesConference Call DateFriday, July 26, 2024Conference Call Time9:00AM ETUpcoming EarningsAptarGroup's Q1 2025 earnings is scheduled for Thursday, May 1, 2025, with a conference call scheduled on Friday, May 2, 2025 at 9:00 AM ET. Check back for transcripts, audio, and key financial metrics as they become available.Conference Call ResourcesConference Call AudioConference Call TranscriptSlide DeckPress Release (8-K)Quarterly Report (10-Q)SEC FilingEarnings HistoryCompany ProfileSlide DeckFull Screen Slide DeckPowered by AptarGroup Q2 2024 Earnings Call TranscriptProvided by QuartrJuly 26, 2024 ShareLink copied to clipboard.There are 10 speakers on the call. Operator00:00:00Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for standing by. Welcome to Aptar's 2024 Second Quarter Conference Call. At this time, all participants are in listen only mode. Later, we will conduct a question and answer session. Operator00:00:12Introducing today's conference call is Mrs. Mary Scofidos, Senior Vice President, Investor Relations and Communications. Please go ahead. Speaker 100:00:21Thank you. Hello, everyone, and thanks for being with us today. Joining me on the call are Stephane Tanda, President and CEO and Bob Keun, Executive Vice President and CFO. A press release and accompanying slide deck have been posted on our website. If you are following along on our website, you can advance the slides by hovering over the presentation screen and clicking on the arrows on the right and left. Speaker 100:00:47As always, we will also post a replay of this call on our website. Today's call includes some forward looking statements. Please refer to our SEC filings to review factors that could cause actual results to differ materially from what we are discussing today. I would now like to turn the conference call over to Stephane. Speaker 200:01:07Thank you, Mary, and good morning, everyone. We appreciate you joining us on the call today. I will begin my remarks by highlighting our 2nd quarter results. Later in the call, Bob Keun, our CFO, will provide additional details on key drivers for the quarter. Starting on Slide 3, for the Q2, I'm pleased to report that Avtar achieved core sales growth of 3% and delivered adjusted EPS of $1.37 per share, a 12% increase over the prior year quarter. Speaker 200:01:41We grew adjusted EPS double digits for the first half of the year and in the quarter. Additionally, due to our confidence in our performance, we recently raised the dividend by approximately 10% on top of an almost 8% increase last year. The positive results in the quarter were driven by strong demand for our pharma proprietary drug delivery systems as well as continued broad based margin improvement. Our pharma segment continued to see healthy demand for our proprietary drug delivery systems with 7% core sales growth in the quarter following more than 13% core sales growth in the 2nd quarter of 2023. Additionally, proprietary drug delivery systems had double digit growth in the quarter on top of growing more than 30% in the prior year quarter. Speaker 200:02:361 of the key drivers for this quarter was our drug delivery systems used for central nervous system drugs. Over the last decade, we have seen a growing number of pharma companies repurposing drugs from injectable to nasal delivery. This spans from emergency medicines used to reverse the effect of opioid overdose to natal treatments for migraines, depression and epilepsy. The wider benefits of nasally delivered medications such as over the counter nasal sprays, have come to light even more in the new study. According to the July 2024 study funded by the National Institute For Health and Care Research, nasal sprays such as Vicks First Defense, the gel based nasal spray featuring our nasal pump that was used in the study were shown to reduce the severity of cold and flu symptoms, decrease the frequency and duration of respiratory infections as well as limit the need for antibiotics in at risk patients. Speaker 200:03:37This report is timely also in light of the most recent surge of COVID cases spreading in the U. S. In addition to our proprietary drug delivery systems, we have also built a suite of service and digital offerings. These include formulation development support, analytical testing, human factors testing, generating patient insights, regulatory support, digital health and drug lifecycle management, all to help our pharmaceutical customers bring their drugs to market successfully. We are focused in improving the patient experiences and helping them successfully administer the therapies. Speaker 200:04:19Now moving to injectables. Sales declined when compared to prior year quarter as sales normalized following last year's strong Q2 catch up from the ERP implementation in the Q1 of 2023. Our pipeline of elastomeric components is growing nicely, especially for our higher value offerings. Both our Beauty and Closure segments saw volume increases. For Beauty, lower tooling sales pulled down core sales growth. Speaker 200:04:48Beauty saw pockets of strength in North America, Latin America with Masstige Fragrances and broad based demand improvement for personal care dispensing. Sales in Europe, which represent more than 50% of Beauty's revenue, normalized after a period of significant growth a year ago. In terms of margins, Beauty improved a full percentage point over the prior year period, while closures margins were flat due to timing of the passing on of lower resin costs. During this destocking period, we have focused on improving operational leverage. Now that we are seeing progressive improvement in North American sales, we expect the benefit as volumes rebound. Speaker 200:05:30Before I turn the call over to Bob to share further details on Q2, I want to speak about innovation and highlight recent technology and product launches as shown on Slide 4. Starting with pharma, our unidose system is used in the U. S. To deliver medications that treat vitamin B12 deficiency and anemia. In China, our Air Lift system is used for new acne medication. Speaker 200:05:57And in Europe, our Actifile material science technology is used for Bayer's Ibero Giotics Pro. In our Digital Health business, migraine body is now part of our portfolio of products and is the leading headache and migraine tracking app to help users report and self manage their migraine symptoms. We have also added 2 digital solutions that enable patients to track their health and share reports with their care team through our partnership with Biogen, CLEO for patients with multiple sclerosis and physio. Me for people living with neuromuscular disorders. In beauty, our pump is used for Lancome's refillable Idone fragrance. Speaker 200:06:44Guerlain's first fragrance formulated without alcohol features our fragrance pump and Neutrogena's Hydro Boost skincare product has selected our mono material fully recyclable pump. In Latin America, Aptar's custom over cap made from post consumer recycled resin is featured on the fragrance kayak. Turning to closures. We have a 14 year partnership with Kraft Heinz for their Amelio brand beverage concentrate and the rebranded packaging in the U. S. Speaker 200:07:17Is a custom closure with our Simply Squeeze valve. Our custom flip flop closure with PCR is used on an Adidas body cleanser in China. Turning to Slide 5 now. During the quarter, we released our 2023 Corporate Sustainability and ESG report, which highlights our significant progress across many key areas of our sustainability strategy. We pride ourselves on continuously raising the bar on sourcing renewable energy, certifying sites as landfill free and developing products that are more recyclable, reusable, refillable and incorporate more sustainable materials. Speaker 200:07:58In June, USA Today named ABTA among America's Climate Leaders and Time Magazine named us one of the world's most sustainable companies where we are ranked number 194 out of 500 Global Companies. Both recognitions reflect our broad based leadership and sustainability, transparent data reporting and continued commitment to advancing sustainable practices. Now I would like to turn the call over to Bob. Speaker 300:08:27Thank you, Stefan, and good morning, everyone. Starting on Slide 6, I would like to summarize the quarter. Our reported sales increased 2%. This included a currency translation headwind of approximately 1%. Therefore, core sales grew 3%, primarily due to strong growth in pharma's proprietary drug delivery systems as well as a progressively recovering North American market for both Beauty Enclosures. Speaker 300:08:54As shown on Slide 7, we reported 2nd quarter adjusted earnings per share of $1.37 which is a 12% increase over the prior year's adjusted EPS. During the quarter, we achieved adjusted EBITDA of 193,000,000 dollars which increased from the prior year's 2nd quarter by 6% driven by expanding margins. Free cash flow increased to $75,000,000 in the quarter compared to $7,000,000 in the prior year quarter. Turning to some of the details by segment for the quarter. Our Pharma segment's core sales increased 7% due to volume growth, especially in our proprietary drug delivery systems and active film solutions. Speaker 300:09:37Looking at sales in the Pharma segment by market, I will start by breaking out our proprietary drug delivery systems, which performed well in the quarter. Prescription core sales increased 16%, driven by strong sales of allergic rhinitis, central nervous system therapeutics as well as pain and emergency medicines. Core sales for consumer healthcare increased 6% due to higher demand for eye care, nasal saline and nasal decongestant solutions. Injectables core sales decreased 10% over the prior year quarter. As Stephane mentioned, sales declined compared to the prior year quarter as sales normalized following last year's strong second quarter catch up from the ERP implementation in the Q1 of 2023. Speaker 300:10:23We continue to see good growth in our higher value elastomeric components, including those used for GLP-one applications. Core sales for our active material science solutions improved in the quarter, increasing 7% with demand returning for our products used on probiotics, oral solid dose applications and wearables. Pharma's adjusted EBITDA margin was 34%, a nearly 2 point improvement from the prior year's quarter due to increased sales of higher value products, increased royalties on customer sales and ongoing efforts around operational improvements. The Beauty segment's core sales decreased 1% in the quarter, driven by lower product sales in Europe after a period of significant fragrance launches as well as lower tooling sales compared to Q2 of 2023. The segment saw modest volume improvement with stronger sales globally in the personal care and home care end markets and the beauty end market in North America. Speaker 300:11:23As we look closer at the segment's performance by end market, core sales for the beauty market decreased 6% in the quarter. Overall, difficult comparisons for Prestige Fragrance Dispensing Solutions in the prior year quarter were the main reason for the lower sales. Regionally, sales were up in North America, Latin America and more modestly in Asia, while sales in Europe were down due to tough fragrance comparisons. Core sales for the Personal Care market increased 4% due to demand for body lotions and hair care products. Growth was broad based across most regions. Speaker 300:12:01Home Care sales increased 10%, driven by strong sales in North America, primarily for our products used on air care applications. This segment's adjusted EBITDA margin for the quarter was approximately 14%, nearly a one point improvement over the prior year's quarter despite softer sales. The margin improvement was due to continued focus on operational performance along with cost management. Turning to the closures segment, core sales were flat compared with the prior year's quarter. Volumes for closures increased slightly, but core sales were negatively impacted by the pass through of lower resin costs. Speaker 300:12:39Sales increased for beverage offsetting the softer food market. When looking at sales by market foreclosures, Foodcore sales decreased 3%, driven by market softness in North America and Europe. BeverageCore sales increased 7% with sales of bottled water, functional sports drinks and concentrates contributing positively to the results. Sales were driven by overall regional growth, including Europe, which is our largest beverage market. Core sales for the Personal Care closures decreased 3%. Speaker 300:13:12Growth in North America, Latin America and Asia could not offset the decline in Europe. In our 4th category, which includes beauty, Home Care and Healthcare, core sales increased 9% as demand for dish care, surface cleaners and laundry products grew in the quarter. The segment's adjusted EBITDA margin was 16% for the quarter, which was flat compared to the prior year quarter as ongoing cost containment efforts and operational performance were offset by the timing of pass through of lower resin costs. In the Q2 of 2024, we had capital expenditures of approximately $68,000,000 and about 60% was spent on our Pharma segment. Reported depreciation and amortization expense increased by almost $3,000,000 over the prior year quarter to approximately $65,000,000 or 7% of sales. Speaker 300:14:05In the quarter, we experienced higher corporate expenses than usual, including more than $3,000,000 in expenses for the review of potential acquisition targets. I also want to note that in early July, we amended restated our multi currency revolving credit facility to replace the existing facility that matures in June 2026. The new facility now matures in July 2029 and provides for unsecured financing of up to $600,000,000 Also in July, we entered into a term loan that matures in July 2027 and provides for unsecured financing of up to $330,000,000 This will be used to finance near term maturities and for general corporate purposes. Slides 89 cover our year to date performance and show a core sales increase of 4% and our adjusted earnings per share, which were $2.63 up 21% compared to $2.18 a year ago, including comparable exchange rates. Moving to Slide 10, which summarizes our outlook for the Q3, we anticipate our growth to continue and expect Q3 adjusted earnings per share, excluding any restructuring expenses, acquisition costs and changes in the unrealized fair value of equity investments to be in the range of $1.38 to $1.46 per share. Speaker 300:15:23The estimated tax rate range for the 3rd quarter is 23.5 percent to 25.5 percent. We are expecting currencies to have a small positive impact compared to the prior year quarter. We currently estimate depreciation and amortization for 2024 to be between $260,000,000 to $270,000,000 We expect our capital expenditures in 2024 to be between $280,000,000 $300,000,000 with the majority of capital allocated toward our Pharma segment. In closing, we continue to have a strong balance sheet with a leverage ratio of approximately 1.3, which allows us to continue to invest in the business, pursue strategic opportunities and continue to return value to shareholders in the form of dividends and repurchases. In addition to our cash dividend payments to shareholders, which totaled approximately $27,000,000 in the quarter, we repurchased about 34,000 shares for approximately $5,000,000 Over the last 5 years, we have returned more than $780,000,000 to shareholders through dividends and share repurchases. Speaker 300:16:24At this time, Stephane will provide a few closing comments before we move to Q and A. Speaker 200:16:29Thanks, Bob. In closing, we had a strong first half and see that growth continuing into the Q3. We see good momentum for our proprietary drug delivery systems, driven by demand for nasally delivered central nervous system drugs as well as our proprietary drug delivery systems for allergies and eye care. As a reminder, we expect our proprietary drug delivery systems to grow within our long term core sales target range of 7% to 11% for the full year. While we expect 2024 to be a bit noisy for our injectable division, we see demand for higher value products continuing to grow. Speaker 200:17:09For our consumer dispensing technologies, we see progressive recovery in North America. As volumes come back, we expect to benefit from our continued focus on cost management and improved operational leverage. Lastly, our strong performance and continued positive outlook led to our recent dividend increase of almost 10% on top of last year's 8% increase. Now before I open the call up for questions, I want to touch on the announcement we made last night. My colleague, Bob Kuhn, after our CFO, has decided to retire at the end of this year. Speaker 200:17:46Bob has been with Aptar for 37 years, 16 of them as our CFO. I want to sincerely thank Bob for his guidance, leadership and many contributions to Aftar. No doubt Bob is one of the best CFOs in the business. He has played an instrumental role in our success while building a strong team and putting in place an incredible financial foundation from which Aptar can continue to grow and create shareholder value. After an extensive search process, I'm pleased to announce that Vanessa Kanu has been selected as Aptar's next CFO as of the 1st January 2025. Speaker 200:18:27Vanessa is expected to start early in Q4 of this year as CFO designate. Vanessa brings tremendous experience as a CFO in Financial Reporting, Global Operations, M and A and cost management that Aptar and our shareholders will greatly benefit from. Most recently, she was the CFO of TELUS International, a technology services firm that operates in 32 countries. She also serves on the Board of Directors of Manulife Financial Corporation, a global financial services institution. I'm pleased to welcome Vanessa to the ABTA team, and I look forward to working with her and introducing her to many of you listening on the call. Speaker 200:19:11As a testament to the strong finance team in place, we have also promoted Dan Ekkemann, the Chief Accounting Officer of the company. Dan has become a trusted advisor, valued for his integrity and dedication to Aptar. He will continue to lead all corporate accounting functions working closely with the second and final team and continue to help the company's long term financial planning strategy. With that, I would like to open the call up for your questions. Operator00:19:42Thank Our first question comes from George Staphos with Bank of America. Your line is open. Please go ahead. Speaker 400:20:12Thanks so much. Hi, everyone. Good morning. Thanks for the details. Bob, it's been wonderful working with you. Speaker 400:20:17We appreciate all your support of our research and everyone's. I'm sure everybody in the community thinks that and we congratulate Vanessa and Dan on their next chapters in their careers and Vanessa joining after as well. I guess my two questions. First of all, there's been a lot, as you might know, discussion of regarding destocking in the injectables market, not necessarily for you guys, but for some of your peers. How much of that is affecting your business relative to obviously the tough comps that you spelled out? Speaker 400:20:55And then secondly, what I'd say is this, it looks like you're seeing a migration of share perhaps back into your traditional, your proprietary dispensing devices out of injectables or at least if you can comment if that's happening. Given everything we've heard, molecule large molecules have been sort of gaining share in terms of remedies. And so how are you seeing growth in your proprietary dispensing systems when injectables was supposed to be where the growth was going to be? Thanks so much and I'll come back in queue. Speaker 200:21:32Great, George. And I can only echo your thanks to Bob and the team. On your questions, let me take one at a time. Look, we did not have a huge COVID bloom for our injectable business. As you know, the major benefits of COVID in our injectable business was the credibility gain as we get vetted. Speaker 200:21:59Of course, we see some destocking some destocking, antithrombotic and things like that that people consume more than they were in the hospital. But in the context of the overall growth of the high value products, GLP-one, that is more than offset. And the noisiness of the quarter is quite simply last year's quarter 2, we kind of did a quarter and a half in quarter 2 because we caught up from almost no sales in quarter 1. That's why you have this noisy comparison. But injectable has grown through the 1st 6 months in unit sales and we expect it to continue to grow in the second half. Speaker 200:22:44Nevertheless, never mind the stocking in some SKUs like antithrombotics. Now on your second question, this is really you're talking different order of magnitude. Injectable medicines, it's like the Pacific Ocean. And then you talk about drugs administered to the nose, it's maybe the Danube. So you're talking different orders of magnitude. Speaker 200:23:09So that's not really a big shift. We continue to see injected medicines to grow and especially biologics continue to grow. What the nasal delivery offers to many pharma companies is a way to lifecycle management, maybe older drugs, maybe well established drugs to with a new delivery method, one that perhaps is more efficient for that type of molecule, sometimes it's repurposing injected medicines like valoxone. Sometimes it's repurposing all those medicines. And sometimes it's maybe an alternative like epinephrine from the EpiPen to hopefully nasal delivery. Speaker 200:23:59But this take nothing away from the growth of the Pacific Ocean, so to speak, in terms of overall injected medicine and biologics. And we are a small part of this and but we are very excited about the growth and that's why we invested in it. Speaker 400:24:19Thank you, Stefan. I'll turn it over. I'll come back. Operator00:24:25We now turn to Ghansham Panjabi with Baird. Your line is open. Please go ahead. Speaker 500:24:32Hi, good morning. And I just want to echo George's comments for Bob. Obviously, congrats on your retirement and amazing career, and you'll certainly be missed by all of us. I guess following up on the last question. So on Pharma, I mean, plus 7% core sales growth, obviously prescription boosted that injectables down. Speaker 500:24:54So if the assumption, Stefan, is that injectables continues to grow in the back half of the year or reverts towards that, should we expect a reacceleration in terms of growth for sales relative to that 7%? And how does that impact margins as well? Speaker 200:25:10Yes. We don't really guide by sub unit. I think we already leaned out the window by giving you some comfort that our proprietary DUC delivery dispensing will continue to grow in the 7% to 11% in for the full year despite the double digit growth last year. And yes, you can take from my comments that we see continued growth in injectables. And yes, technically, technically, that is a reacceleration from a decline in quarter 2. Speaker 200:25:44But you understand the quarter 2 comparison here. Speaker 500:25:50I do, yes. And then for my second question in terms of UB, it sounds Speaker 400:25:54like yes. Speaker 200:25:56Sorry, go ahead. Speaker 500:25:59No, go ahead, please. Speaker 200:26:01Yes. Look, on the margin, obviously, a part of that is mix dependent. As you know, certainly our proprietary dispensing devices are the highest margin business. Injectable is nice, but not in that range. So it will always have a mix impact. Speaker 200:26:18On the other hand, as you heard Bob say, overall, we also had $3,500,000 of non recurring corporate costs in Q2 that we did not adjust out, so they will not repeat in quarter 3. Also, we will start to have the benefits of having shut down the closures plant in France. So we continue across the board. Speaker 500:26:46Okay. And then my second question was on the Beauty segment. So as it relates to North America showing pockets of growth, how do you see that unfolding in the back half of the year in context of just very, very mixed consumer spending? And then your comment on Europe specific to fragrances. I mean, clearly, comparison is going to be tough for the back half of the year as well. Speaker 500:27:08Should we expect the same trend line for the back half specific to Europe also for that segment? Thanks. Speaker 200:27:15Yes. I would say, 1st, North America, obviously, we compared to a relatively low base and we see broad based recovery, not only in Beauty, but also in closures. And I think that bodes well for the second half of the year. Now given that Europe is so much bigger, clearly, we have this avalanche of new prestige launches coming out COVID that now don't repeat. We will also see that in the second half, albeit the comparisons will get a little bit easier. Speaker 200:27:49We actually have some nice growth of MasTige launches, that's particularly in Latin America, but that's not large enough to offset the year over year comparison with Europe. So it's going to be a bit a mixed bag, but overall very positive for North America, good growth in Latin America. Clearly, we're all a little bit looking at China and wondering when it's going to start firing again on all 12 cylinders and that also has an impact on European sales. As you recall, that a lot of our European beauty sales also feed into China. So that's why it's a bit strong mixed bag for the second half of Beauty, but overall feel good about. Speaker 500:28:36Okay. Thanks so much and Bob congrats again. Speaker 600:28:40Thanks Ghansham. Appreciate it. Operator00:28:43Our next question comes from Daniel Rizzo with Jefferies. Your line is open. Please go ahead. Speaker 700:28:50Hey, good morning and thanks for taking my questions. You mentioned CapEx is mostly for pharma. I was just thinking how Speaker 600:28:56we should think about the cadence over Speaker 700:28:57the next few years, if there's any big projects ending or starting? And yes, how we Speaker 600:29:01should think about this to I mean towards the end of the decade? Speaker 200:29:07So, yes, overall that go ahead, Bob. Go ahead, Bob. No, I was just going to Speaker 600:29:14say, I don't see we don't have anything today on the long term horizon in terms of major CapEx other than I would say continuing to industrialize and increase capacity for high performing product lines as we've seen in pharma. I see the trend towards higher weighting of towards pharma to continue. But again, opportunities are still out there in all three segments. We do see though the high point of 300,000,000 dollars that we've touched the last couple of years beginning to decrease, as we start to leverage all those investments that we've made over the past couple of years. Overall, slight decrease from where we were at the High Point, continued majority spend on pharma. Speaker 600:30:08And again, large capital, nothing building wise or anything at the moment like we've gone through, but we'll continue to increase capacity for product lines that are performing well. Speaker 700:30:22And then you mentioned in your prepared comments about, I think, royalties in pharma. I was just wondering if that's an ancillary business or it's something that's growing and could be a larger revenue in the coming years or how we really should think about it? Speaker 600:30:44Vania, I can respond to that. So that's part of the business model, ongoing business model for our pharma team, particularly in the proprietary door delivery system. So it is a new business model, new slightly new revenue stream. We fully anticipate it will continue to grow. But at this point, we're not prepared to really disclose how big it could become. Speaker 600:31:12Okay. Thank you. Speaker 200:31:15Yes. If I just add to that, look, every time we enter in a new development project and often that is with small companies long before they get bought by bigger companies. Sometimes they don't have all the funds and to pay for everything upfront. So we enter into milestone payments and sometimes we get royalties on the back end. So it's just part of the overall revenue mix and it's part of our value creation model. Speaker 200:31:51Thank Operator00:32:01We now turn to Matt Larew with William Blair. Your line is open. Please go ahead. Speaker 800:32:09Hi, good morning. You talked about progress you've made on HVP within injectables. So would maybe just be curious for your assessment of your overall participation rate today versus pre COVID and what you've seen since you've brought new capacity to bear and perhaps how that capacity and some of the products have helped both with GLPs, but more broadly in the market? Speaker 200:32:36Sure. Look, to the you may remember from the Investor Day, the capacity increase has really been split over a number of smaller projects. We had 2 legacy sites in France. Both of them have been upgraded. And then a new site has been built that's still being completed and validated. Speaker 200:33:03And then the Congress New York site and then within those different steps in the value chain. But overall, we've increased our capability in high value products. And because of the COVID event and more and more interest by customers to work with us on new projects, biologic projects and of course, GLP-one is part of that. As a reminder, in GLP-one, there are 2 SKUs at least. 1 is plunger, one is the needle shield. Speaker 200:33:39And we're quite happy with our participation rate overall there and see that business continuing to grow. So this is an ongoing growth trajectory. We got the capacity to grow with the market. And yes, fortunately, we don't we're not as much exposed to the destocking. Speaker 800:34:06Right. And then in your prepared remarks, you obviously made comments about M and A diligence as well as some debt restructuring balance sheet moves. Gersha Amer obviously recently did the Formulae deal, so there's been some activity in sort of the M and A space within the broader packaging market. Given that you made the comments proactively, curious either from an appetite or availability perspective, what you're seeing? Speaker 200:34:38Look, we have a strong balance sheet and that affords us strategic flexibility. As you know, we are fans of bite sized bolt on partnerships and acquisitions and have a solid track record. And periodically, we evaluate opportunities, but we don't get into any of the details of those until they are ready to be announced. But there's nothing at the moment that's ongoing. Speaker 500:35:10Okay. Speaker 900:35:11Thanks. Operator00:35:15We now turn to Gabe Hajde with Wells Fargo. Your line is open. Please go ahead. Speaker 900:35:23Stephan, Bob, good morning. Echo this and congratulations, Bob. I'm sure you're going to enjoy the weather and welcome Vanessa. I had a question about the pipeline. Sometimes always tough on the outside. Speaker 900:35:38We sort of have to trust the team. But you gave us some data points that in dollar terms project and number of projects, I think versus 2019, that pipeline has been up kind of consistently just above 40% or so. Can you give us an update maybe today where it sits and where you would expect that to trend maybe over the next 18 months or some timeframe that seems reasonable 24 months as you commercialize some of these things that are in the pipeline, maybe the central nervous system treatments that you guys are working on? Yes, sure. Speaker 200:36:19Look, we feel very good about about the pipeline. It continues to grow. We mentioned I think last time that even though we have commercializations and that means things come out of the pipeline. We have replenished it, the pipeline with the same or larger amount. I think we'll give you an update on the pipeline again in October when we have our investor event, small commercial. Speaker 200:36:47We will be in France October 2 and 3. So anybody who hasn't signed up yet, Mary would love to hear from you. And I'm pretty sure at that time we'll be able to give you an update. And I don't expect significant deviation from the trend line overall, whether it's nasal devices, whether it's inhalation, whether it's ophthalmic, whether it's injectables, we see good pipeline inflow. Also on the digital health front, we make very good progress. Speaker 200:37:21I mentioned a few apps, the Biogen deal continues to help us in our business development efforts. So overall, feel good about the pipeline, feel good about the prospects and ultimately that has also informed our decision to raise again our dividend after the 8% last year, almost 10% this year. So that kind of gives you a feeling of the underlying confidence in the pipeline. Speaker 900:37:54Thank you, Stefan. And maybe just one more, I'll take another stab at the M and A question. From your vantage point, is there anything that you see in the pipeline from a size perspective that's different than what you all have done in the past or assets that you see potentially coming to market size wise that are larger in nature versus again like what you've done in the past? Thank you. Speaker 200:38:29Yes. I would not say that in principle there is something different. Clearly today we have a market cap that approaches $10,000,000,000 So bolt on size means probably something different when the market cap was half that size, but the general attitude is still the same. We love these bolt on deals that come with good management that give us additional capability, technologies that we can spread across the company and leverage or geographic footprint. And I'm not a big fan of large transformative deals that tend to be much riskier. Speaker 400:39:13Perfect. Speaker 900:39:14Thank you and good luck. Thanks, Gabe. Thank you. Operator00:39:21We have a follow-up question from George Staphos with Bank of America. Your line is open. Please go ahead. Speaker 400:39:28Thanks for taking my question. Following on some of the questions here at the end of the call regarding M and A and the pipeline, obviously, there were some headlines earlier in the week with some peers in the dispensing market getting together and that look that happens all the time. Can you talk, Stephane and Bob, about how the competitive landscape may be changing? Do you view some of the more recent announcements as something that Aptar will have to navigate even more carefully now from a competitive standpoint in terms of making sure your moat is as solid as ever, making sure your pipeline is growing to Gabe's point earlier? Or do you feel, hey, listen, this is normal course and we'll focus on our pipeline, our new products, our commercialization and the rest will take care of itself? Speaker 400:40:25So that's question 1. And question 2, I recognize having covered you a long time, you're not going to guide necessarily on the Q4, but should we expect at a minimum continued increases in earnings throughout the year? Can you maintain relatively consistent trends in earnings from Q3 into Q4 based on the pipeline, based on the fact you raised the dividend, based on the fact that comps maybe get a little bit easier in pharma from your earlier Q and A with Ghansham? Thanks and good luck in the quarter. Speaker 200:41:00Sure. I'm going to leave the second question for you, Bob. Let me take the first question. Yes, look, these packaging assets are very attractive assets, especially for PE firms. They change hands often. Speaker 200:41:17You referred to Vincent where it was one of them was picked up by strategic. We don't really see a change in the competitive environment. So I would much more call this in the ordinary course. I mean, specifically talked about that one. Silgan is respected company, respected operator. Speaker 200:41:40We don't see a change in Speaker 600:41:51And George, you're 100 percent right. We're not going to comment on the 4th quarter earnings looking forward. So I don't want to disappoint you. Speaker 400:42:01Bob, you go out with a bang here. Speaker 600:42:05I got one more in me, George. Come on, come on. I got one more in me. Don't push me out just yet. But I think the dividend increase of 10%, in my opinion, was a strong signal in our confidence in the near term future of what we're doing. Speaker 600:42:234th quarter, to be perfectly transparent, is always very difficult to forecast, right? We've had really strong 4th quarters. We've had very weak 4th quarters, right? It depends on where we will be probably in economic cycle and where the confidence level is. There's a lot of uncertainty going on, particularly with elections and things like that. Speaker 600:42:46So let's see where it goes. But certainly, sitting here today and that dividend increase should be the indicator that we see a good near term future on the horizon. Speaker 400:43:00Okay. Thank you so much. Good luck in the quarter. See you next one. Speaker 900:43:04Thanks, George. Thank you. Operator00:43:08This concludes our Q and A. I will now hand back to Mr. Stefan Tanda for closing remarks. Speaker 200:43:14All right. Thank you. So as you see, we continue to focus on executing the ambitious earnings growth plan that we shared with you at the Investor Day with a strong focus both on the top line and the structural and ongoing productivity gains all to ensure that the bottom line grows faster than the top line. In that vein, Q2 was another solid quarter, continuing our double digit adjusted EPS growth for the quarter as well as for the first half. And again, as a reminder, we had $3,500,000 in non recurring costs that was not adjusted out in the quarter also. Speaker 200:43:57We see how momentum continue in the second half with further pharma growth. If you can hear from my voice, COVID is a life and well, so Bob and I sit in separate rooms. So that will certainly help consumer healthcare also. Cost management and strong operational performance continue and we will benefit from the productivity measures such as the quarter 2 plant closing in France. Also as a reminder, even in a slowing economy, we are confident about our future trajectory. Speaker 200:44:33As we just discussed, it also underpins our decision to increase our dividend yet again by 10%. Order book and project pipeline remains strong and customers continue to engage well with our innovations. They appreciate the technology and value we bring to their brands and their drug developments, including our ongoing leadership and sustainability. We're well positioned from an operational perspective and our regional footprint gain increasing competitiveness around the world. And as we discussed, our larger investments are behind us and CapEx is kind of normalizing, adding to our cash generation. Speaker 200:45:25We talked about the strong balance sheet and strategic flexibility. And with that, I would say all this bodes well for the second half. Bob, Vanessa, Mary and I and Dan are looking forward to discuss with you more on the road. And again, a small commercial for our investor event in France on October 2 and 3. And with that, I wish everybody a good summer and see you on the road. Operator00:45:54Ladies and gentlemen, today's call has now concluded. We'd like to thank you for your participation. 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There are 10 speakers on the call. Operator00:00:00Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for standing by. Welcome to Aptar's 2024 Second Quarter Conference Call. At this time, all participants are in listen only mode. Later, we will conduct a question and answer session. Operator00:00:12Introducing today's conference call is Mrs. Mary Scofidos, Senior Vice President, Investor Relations and Communications. Please go ahead. Speaker 100:00:21Thank you. Hello, everyone, and thanks for being with us today. Joining me on the call are Stephane Tanda, President and CEO and Bob Keun, Executive Vice President and CFO. A press release and accompanying slide deck have been posted on our website. If you are following along on our website, you can advance the slides by hovering over the presentation screen and clicking on the arrows on the right and left. Speaker 100:00:47As always, we will also post a replay of this call on our website. Today's call includes some forward looking statements. Please refer to our SEC filings to review factors that could cause actual results to differ materially from what we are discussing today. I would now like to turn the conference call over to Stephane. Speaker 200:01:07Thank you, Mary, and good morning, everyone. We appreciate you joining us on the call today. I will begin my remarks by highlighting our 2nd quarter results. Later in the call, Bob Keun, our CFO, will provide additional details on key drivers for the quarter. Starting on Slide 3, for the Q2, I'm pleased to report that Avtar achieved core sales growth of 3% and delivered adjusted EPS of $1.37 per share, a 12% increase over the prior year quarter. Speaker 200:01:41We grew adjusted EPS double digits for the first half of the year and in the quarter. Additionally, due to our confidence in our performance, we recently raised the dividend by approximately 10% on top of an almost 8% increase last year. The positive results in the quarter were driven by strong demand for our pharma proprietary drug delivery systems as well as continued broad based margin improvement. Our pharma segment continued to see healthy demand for our proprietary drug delivery systems with 7% core sales growth in the quarter following more than 13% core sales growth in the 2nd quarter of 2023. Additionally, proprietary drug delivery systems had double digit growth in the quarter on top of growing more than 30% in the prior year quarter. Speaker 200:02:361 of the key drivers for this quarter was our drug delivery systems used for central nervous system drugs. Over the last decade, we have seen a growing number of pharma companies repurposing drugs from injectable to nasal delivery. This spans from emergency medicines used to reverse the effect of opioid overdose to natal treatments for migraines, depression and epilepsy. The wider benefits of nasally delivered medications such as over the counter nasal sprays, have come to light even more in the new study. According to the July 2024 study funded by the National Institute For Health and Care Research, nasal sprays such as Vicks First Defense, the gel based nasal spray featuring our nasal pump that was used in the study were shown to reduce the severity of cold and flu symptoms, decrease the frequency and duration of respiratory infections as well as limit the need for antibiotics in at risk patients. Speaker 200:03:37This report is timely also in light of the most recent surge of COVID cases spreading in the U. S. In addition to our proprietary drug delivery systems, we have also built a suite of service and digital offerings. These include formulation development support, analytical testing, human factors testing, generating patient insights, regulatory support, digital health and drug lifecycle management, all to help our pharmaceutical customers bring their drugs to market successfully. We are focused in improving the patient experiences and helping them successfully administer the therapies. Speaker 200:04:19Now moving to injectables. Sales declined when compared to prior year quarter as sales normalized following last year's strong Q2 catch up from the ERP implementation in the Q1 of 2023. Our pipeline of elastomeric components is growing nicely, especially for our higher value offerings. Both our Beauty and Closure segments saw volume increases. For Beauty, lower tooling sales pulled down core sales growth. Speaker 200:04:48Beauty saw pockets of strength in North America, Latin America with Masstige Fragrances and broad based demand improvement for personal care dispensing. Sales in Europe, which represent more than 50% of Beauty's revenue, normalized after a period of significant growth a year ago. In terms of margins, Beauty improved a full percentage point over the prior year period, while closures margins were flat due to timing of the passing on of lower resin costs. During this destocking period, we have focused on improving operational leverage. Now that we are seeing progressive improvement in North American sales, we expect the benefit as volumes rebound. Speaker 200:05:30Before I turn the call over to Bob to share further details on Q2, I want to speak about innovation and highlight recent technology and product launches as shown on Slide 4. Starting with pharma, our unidose system is used in the U. S. To deliver medications that treat vitamin B12 deficiency and anemia. In China, our Air Lift system is used for new acne medication. Speaker 200:05:57And in Europe, our Actifile material science technology is used for Bayer's Ibero Giotics Pro. In our Digital Health business, migraine body is now part of our portfolio of products and is the leading headache and migraine tracking app to help users report and self manage their migraine symptoms. We have also added 2 digital solutions that enable patients to track their health and share reports with their care team through our partnership with Biogen, CLEO for patients with multiple sclerosis and physio. Me for people living with neuromuscular disorders. In beauty, our pump is used for Lancome's refillable Idone fragrance. Speaker 200:06:44Guerlain's first fragrance formulated without alcohol features our fragrance pump and Neutrogena's Hydro Boost skincare product has selected our mono material fully recyclable pump. In Latin America, Aptar's custom over cap made from post consumer recycled resin is featured on the fragrance kayak. Turning to closures. We have a 14 year partnership with Kraft Heinz for their Amelio brand beverage concentrate and the rebranded packaging in the U. S. Speaker 200:07:17Is a custom closure with our Simply Squeeze valve. Our custom flip flop closure with PCR is used on an Adidas body cleanser in China. Turning to Slide 5 now. During the quarter, we released our 2023 Corporate Sustainability and ESG report, which highlights our significant progress across many key areas of our sustainability strategy. We pride ourselves on continuously raising the bar on sourcing renewable energy, certifying sites as landfill free and developing products that are more recyclable, reusable, refillable and incorporate more sustainable materials. Speaker 200:07:58In June, USA Today named ABTA among America's Climate Leaders and Time Magazine named us one of the world's most sustainable companies where we are ranked number 194 out of 500 Global Companies. Both recognitions reflect our broad based leadership and sustainability, transparent data reporting and continued commitment to advancing sustainable practices. Now I would like to turn the call over to Bob. Speaker 300:08:27Thank you, Stefan, and good morning, everyone. Starting on Slide 6, I would like to summarize the quarter. Our reported sales increased 2%. This included a currency translation headwind of approximately 1%. Therefore, core sales grew 3%, primarily due to strong growth in pharma's proprietary drug delivery systems as well as a progressively recovering North American market for both Beauty Enclosures. Speaker 300:08:54As shown on Slide 7, we reported 2nd quarter adjusted earnings per share of $1.37 which is a 12% increase over the prior year's adjusted EPS. During the quarter, we achieved adjusted EBITDA of 193,000,000 dollars which increased from the prior year's 2nd quarter by 6% driven by expanding margins. Free cash flow increased to $75,000,000 in the quarter compared to $7,000,000 in the prior year quarter. Turning to some of the details by segment for the quarter. Our Pharma segment's core sales increased 7% due to volume growth, especially in our proprietary drug delivery systems and active film solutions. Speaker 300:09:37Looking at sales in the Pharma segment by market, I will start by breaking out our proprietary drug delivery systems, which performed well in the quarter. Prescription core sales increased 16%, driven by strong sales of allergic rhinitis, central nervous system therapeutics as well as pain and emergency medicines. Core sales for consumer healthcare increased 6% due to higher demand for eye care, nasal saline and nasal decongestant solutions. Injectables core sales decreased 10% over the prior year quarter. As Stephane mentioned, sales declined compared to the prior year quarter as sales normalized following last year's strong second quarter catch up from the ERP implementation in the Q1 of 2023. Speaker 300:10:23We continue to see good growth in our higher value elastomeric components, including those used for GLP-one applications. Core sales for our active material science solutions improved in the quarter, increasing 7% with demand returning for our products used on probiotics, oral solid dose applications and wearables. Pharma's adjusted EBITDA margin was 34%, a nearly 2 point improvement from the prior year's quarter due to increased sales of higher value products, increased royalties on customer sales and ongoing efforts around operational improvements. The Beauty segment's core sales decreased 1% in the quarter, driven by lower product sales in Europe after a period of significant fragrance launches as well as lower tooling sales compared to Q2 of 2023. The segment saw modest volume improvement with stronger sales globally in the personal care and home care end markets and the beauty end market in North America. Speaker 300:11:23As we look closer at the segment's performance by end market, core sales for the beauty market decreased 6% in the quarter. Overall, difficult comparisons for Prestige Fragrance Dispensing Solutions in the prior year quarter were the main reason for the lower sales. Regionally, sales were up in North America, Latin America and more modestly in Asia, while sales in Europe were down due to tough fragrance comparisons. Core sales for the Personal Care market increased 4% due to demand for body lotions and hair care products. Growth was broad based across most regions. Speaker 300:12:01Home Care sales increased 10%, driven by strong sales in North America, primarily for our products used on air care applications. This segment's adjusted EBITDA margin for the quarter was approximately 14%, nearly a one point improvement over the prior year's quarter despite softer sales. The margin improvement was due to continued focus on operational performance along with cost management. Turning to the closures segment, core sales were flat compared with the prior year's quarter. Volumes for closures increased slightly, but core sales were negatively impacted by the pass through of lower resin costs. Speaker 300:12:39Sales increased for beverage offsetting the softer food market. When looking at sales by market foreclosures, Foodcore sales decreased 3%, driven by market softness in North America and Europe. BeverageCore sales increased 7% with sales of bottled water, functional sports drinks and concentrates contributing positively to the results. Sales were driven by overall regional growth, including Europe, which is our largest beverage market. Core sales for the Personal Care closures decreased 3%. Speaker 300:13:12Growth in North America, Latin America and Asia could not offset the decline in Europe. In our 4th category, which includes beauty, Home Care and Healthcare, core sales increased 9% as demand for dish care, surface cleaners and laundry products grew in the quarter. The segment's adjusted EBITDA margin was 16% for the quarter, which was flat compared to the prior year quarter as ongoing cost containment efforts and operational performance were offset by the timing of pass through of lower resin costs. In the Q2 of 2024, we had capital expenditures of approximately $68,000,000 and about 60% was spent on our Pharma segment. Reported depreciation and amortization expense increased by almost $3,000,000 over the prior year quarter to approximately $65,000,000 or 7% of sales. Speaker 300:14:05In the quarter, we experienced higher corporate expenses than usual, including more than $3,000,000 in expenses for the review of potential acquisition targets. I also want to note that in early July, we amended restated our multi currency revolving credit facility to replace the existing facility that matures in June 2026. The new facility now matures in July 2029 and provides for unsecured financing of up to $600,000,000 Also in July, we entered into a term loan that matures in July 2027 and provides for unsecured financing of up to $330,000,000 This will be used to finance near term maturities and for general corporate purposes. Slides 89 cover our year to date performance and show a core sales increase of 4% and our adjusted earnings per share, which were $2.63 up 21% compared to $2.18 a year ago, including comparable exchange rates. Moving to Slide 10, which summarizes our outlook for the Q3, we anticipate our growth to continue and expect Q3 adjusted earnings per share, excluding any restructuring expenses, acquisition costs and changes in the unrealized fair value of equity investments to be in the range of $1.38 to $1.46 per share. Speaker 300:15:23The estimated tax rate range for the 3rd quarter is 23.5 percent to 25.5 percent. We are expecting currencies to have a small positive impact compared to the prior year quarter. We currently estimate depreciation and amortization for 2024 to be between $260,000,000 to $270,000,000 We expect our capital expenditures in 2024 to be between $280,000,000 $300,000,000 with the majority of capital allocated toward our Pharma segment. In closing, we continue to have a strong balance sheet with a leverage ratio of approximately 1.3, which allows us to continue to invest in the business, pursue strategic opportunities and continue to return value to shareholders in the form of dividends and repurchases. In addition to our cash dividend payments to shareholders, which totaled approximately $27,000,000 in the quarter, we repurchased about 34,000 shares for approximately $5,000,000 Over the last 5 years, we have returned more than $780,000,000 to shareholders through dividends and share repurchases. Speaker 300:16:24At this time, Stephane will provide a few closing comments before we move to Q and A. Speaker 200:16:29Thanks, Bob. In closing, we had a strong first half and see that growth continuing into the Q3. We see good momentum for our proprietary drug delivery systems, driven by demand for nasally delivered central nervous system drugs as well as our proprietary drug delivery systems for allergies and eye care. As a reminder, we expect our proprietary drug delivery systems to grow within our long term core sales target range of 7% to 11% for the full year. While we expect 2024 to be a bit noisy for our injectable division, we see demand for higher value products continuing to grow. Speaker 200:17:09For our consumer dispensing technologies, we see progressive recovery in North America. As volumes come back, we expect to benefit from our continued focus on cost management and improved operational leverage. Lastly, our strong performance and continued positive outlook led to our recent dividend increase of almost 10% on top of last year's 8% increase. Now before I open the call up for questions, I want to touch on the announcement we made last night. My colleague, Bob Kuhn, after our CFO, has decided to retire at the end of this year. Speaker 200:17:46Bob has been with Aptar for 37 years, 16 of them as our CFO. I want to sincerely thank Bob for his guidance, leadership and many contributions to Aftar. No doubt Bob is one of the best CFOs in the business. He has played an instrumental role in our success while building a strong team and putting in place an incredible financial foundation from which Aptar can continue to grow and create shareholder value. After an extensive search process, I'm pleased to announce that Vanessa Kanu has been selected as Aptar's next CFO as of the 1st January 2025. Speaker 200:18:27Vanessa is expected to start early in Q4 of this year as CFO designate. Vanessa brings tremendous experience as a CFO in Financial Reporting, Global Operations, M and A and cost management that Aptar and our shareholders will greatly benefit from. Most recently, she was the CFO of TELUS International, a technology services firm that operates in 32 countries. She also serves on the Board of Directors of Manulife Financial Corporation, a global financial services institution. I'm pleased to welcome Vanessa to the ABTA team, and I look forward to working with her and introducing her to many of you listening on the call. Speaker 200:19:11As a testament to the strong finance team in place, we have also promoted Dan Ekkemann, the Chief Accounting Officer of the company. Dan has become a trusted advisor, valued for his integrity and dedication to Aptar. He will continue to lead all corporate accounting functions working closely with the second and final team and continue to help the company's long term financial planning strategy. With that, I would like to open the call up for your questions. Operator00:19:42Thank Our first question comes from George Staphos with Bank of America. Your line is open. Please go ahead. Speaker 400:20:12Thanks so much. Hi, everyone. Good morning. Thanks for the details. Bob, it's been wonderful working with you. Speaker 400:20:17We appreciate all your support of our research and everyone's. I'm sure everybody in the community thinks that and we congratulate Vanessa and Dan on their next chapters in their careers and Vanessa joining after as well. I guess my two questions. First of all, there's been a lot, as you might know, discussion of regarding destocking in the injectables market, not necessarily for you guys, but for some of your peers. How much of that is affecting your business relative to obviously the tough comps that you spelled out? Speaker 400:20:55And then secondly, what I'd say is this, it looks like you're seeing a migration of share perhaps back into your traditional, your proprietary dispensing devices out of injectables or at least if you can comment if that's happening. Given everything we've heard, molecule large molecules have been sort of gaining share in terms of remedies. And so how are you seeing growth in your proprietary dispensing systems when injectables was supposed to be where the growth was going to be? Thanks so much and I'll come back in queue. Speaker 200:21:32Great, George. And I can only echo your thanks to Bob and the team. On your questions, let me take one at a time. Look, we did not have a huge COVID bloom for our injectable business. As you know, the major benefits of COVID in our injectable business was the credibility gain as we get vetted. Speaker 200:21:59Of course, we see some destocking some destocking, antithrombotic and things like that that people consume more than they were in the hospital. But in the context of the overall growth of the high value products, GLP-one, that is more than offset. And the noisiness of the quarter is quite simply last year's quarter 2, we kind of did a quarter and a half in quarter 2 because we caught up from almost no sales in quarter 1. That's why you have this noisy comparison. But injectable has grown through the 1st 6 months in unit sales and we expect it to continue to grow in the second half. Speaker 200:22:44Nevertheless, never mind the stocking in some SKUs like antithrombotics. Now on your second question, this is really you're talking different order of magnitude. Injectable medicines, it's like the Pacific Ocean. And then you talk about drugs administered to the nose, it's maybe the Danube. So you're talking different orders of magnitude. Speaker 200:23:09So that's not really a big shift. We continue to see injected medicines to grow and especially biologics continue to grow. What the nasal delivery offers to many pharma companies is a way to lifecycle management, maybe older drugs, maybe well established drugs to with a new delivery method, one that perhaps is more efficient for that type of molecule, sometimes it's repurposing injected medicines like valoxone. Sometimes it's repurposing all those medicines. And sometimes it's maybe an alternative like epinephrine from the EpiPen to hopefully nasal delivery. Speaker 200:23:59But this take nothing away from the growth of the Pacific Ocean, so to speak, in terms of overall injected medicine and biologics. And we are a small part of this and but we are very excited about the growth and that's why we invested in it. Speaker 400:24:19Thank you, Stefan. I'll turn it over. I'll come back. Operator00:24:25We now turn to Ghansham Panjabi with Baird. Your line is open. Please go ahead. Speaker 500:24:32Hi, good morning. And I just want to echo George's comments for Bob. Obviously, congrats on your retirement and amazing career, and you'll certainly be missed by all of us. I guess following up on the last question. So on Pharma, I mean, plus 7% core sales growth, obviously prescription boosted that injectables down. Speaker 500:24:54So if the assumption, Stefan, is that injectables continues to grow in the back half of the year or reverts towards that, should we expect a reacceleration in terms of growth for sales relative to that 7%? And how does that impact margins as well? Speaker 200:25:10Yes. We don't really guide by sub unit. I think we already leaned out the window by giving you some comfort that our proprietary DUC delivery dispensing will continue to grow in the 7% to 11% in for the full year despite the double digit growth last year. And yes, you can take from my comments that we see continued growth in injectables. And yes, technically, technically, that is a reacceleration from a decline in quarter 2. Speaker 200:25:44But you understand the quarter 2 comparison here. Speaker 500:25:50I do, yes. And then for my second question in terms of UB, it sounds Speaker 400:25:54like yes. Speaker 200:25:56Sorry, go ahead. Speaker 500:25:59No, go ahead, please. Speaker 200:26:01Yes. Look, on the margin, obviously, a part of that is mix dependent. As you know, certainly our proprietary dispensing devices are the highest margin business. Injectable is nice, but not in that range. So it will always have a mix impact. Speaker 200:26:18On the other hand, as you heard Bob say, overall, we also had $3,500,000 of non recurring corporate costs in Q2 that we did not adjust out, so they will not repeat in quarter 3. Also, we will start to have the benefits of having shut down the closures plant in France. So we continue across the board. Speaker 500:26:46Okay. And then my second question was on the Beauty segment. So as it relates to North America showing pockets of growth, how do you see that unfolding in the back half of the year in context of just very, very mixed consumer spending? And then your comment on Europe specific to fragrances. I mean, clearly, comparison is going to be tough for the back half of the year as well. Speaker 500:27:08Should we expect the same trend line for the back half specific to Europe also for that segment? Thanks. Speaker 200:27:15Yes. I would say, 1st, North America, obviously, we compared to a relatively low base and we see broad based recovery, not only in Beauty, but also in closures. And I think that bodes well for the second half of the year. Now given that Europe is so much bigger, clearly, we have this avalanche of new prestige launches coming out COVID that now don't repeat. We will also see that in the second half, albeit the comparisons will get a little bit easier. Speaker 200:27:49We actually have some nice growth of MasTige launches, that's particularly in Latin America, but that's not large enough to offset the year over year comparison with Europe. So it's going to be a bit a mixed bag, but overall very positive for North America, good growth in Latin America. Clearly, we're all a little bit looking at China and wondering when it's going to start firing again on all 12 cylinders and that also has an impact on European sales. As you recall, that a lot of our European beauty sales also feed into China. So that's why it's a bit strong mixed bag for the second half of Beauty, but overall feel good about. Speaker 500:28:36Okay. Thanks so much and Bob congrats again. Speaker 600:28:40Thanks Ghansham. Appreciate it. Operator00:28:43Our next question comes from Daniel Rizzo with Jefferies. Your line is open. Please go ahead. Speaker 700:28:50Hey, good morning and thanks for taking my questions. You mentioned CapEx is mostly for pharma. I was just thinking how Speaker 600:28:56we should think about the cadence over Speaker 700:28:57the next few years, if there's any big projects ending or starting? And yes, how we Speaker 600:29:01should think about this to I mean towards the end of the decade? Speaker 200:29:07So, yes, overall that go ahead, Bob. Go ahead, Bob. No, I was just going to Speaker 600:29:14say, I don't see we don't have anything today on the long term horizon in terms of major CapEx other than I would say continuing to industrialize and increase capacity for high performing product lines as we've seen in pharma. I see the trend towards higher weighting of towards pharma to continue. But again, opportunities are still out there in all three segments. We do see though the high point of 300,000,000 dollars that we've touched the last couple of years beginning to decrease, as we start to leverage all those investments that we've made over the past couple of years. Overall, slight decrease from where we were at the High Point, continued majority spend on pharma. Speaker 600:30:08And again, large capital, nothing building wise or anything at the moment like we've gone through, but we'll continue to increase capacity for product lines that are performing well. Speaker 700:30:22And then you mentioned in your prepared comments about, I think, royalties in pharma. I was just wondering if that's an ancillary business or it's something that's growing and could be a larger revenue in the coming years or how we really should think about it? Speaker 600:30:44Vania, I can respond to that. So that's part of the business model, ongoing business model for our pharma team, particularly in the proprietary door delivery system. So it is a new business model, new slightly new revenue stream. We fully anticipate it will continue to grow. But at this point, we're not prepared to really disclose how big it could become. Speaker 600:31:12Okay. Thank you. Speaker 200:31:15Yes. If I just add to that, look, every time we enter in a new development project and often that is with small companies long before they get bought by bigger companies. Sometimes they don't have all the funds and to pay for everything upfront. So we enter into milestone payments and sometimes we get royalties on the back end. So it's just part of the overall revenue mix and it's part of our value creation model. Speaker 200:31:51Thank Operator00:32:01We now turn to Matt Larew with William Blair. Your line is open. Please go ahead. Speaker 800:32:09Hi, good morning. You talked about progress you've made on HVP within injectables. So would maybe just be curious for your assessment of your overall participation rate today versus pre COVID and what you've seen since you've brought new capacity to bear and perhaps how that capacity and some of the products have helped both with GLPs, but more broadly in the market? Speaker 200:32:36Sure. Look, to the you may remember from the Investor Day, the capacity increase has really been split over a number of smaller projects. We had 2 legacy sites in France. Both of them have been upgraded. And then a new site has been built that's still being completed and validated. Speaker 200:33:03And then the Congress New York site and then within those different steps in the value chain. But overall, we've increased our capability in high value products. And because of the COVID event and more and more interest by customers to work with us on new projects, biologic projects and of course, GLP-one is part of that. As a reminder, in GLP-one, there are 2 SKUs at least. 1 is plunger, one is the needle shield. Speaker 200:33:39And we're quite happy with our participation rate overall there and see that business continuing to grow. So this is an ongoing growth trajectory. We got the capacity to grow with the market. And yes, fortunately, we don't we're not as much exposed to the destocking. Speaker 800:34:06Right. And then in your prepared remarks, you obviously made comments about M and A diligence as well as some debt restructuring balance sheet moves. Gersha Amer obviously recently did the Formulae deal, so there's been some activity in sort of the M and A space within the broader packaging market. Given that you made the comments proactively, curious either from an appetite or availability perspective, what you're seeing? Speaker 200:34:38Look, we have a strong balance sheet and that affords us strategic flexibility. As you know, we are fans of bite sized bolt on partnerships and acquisitions and have a solid track record. And periodically, we evaluate opportunities, but we don't get into any of the details of those until they are ready to be announced. But there's nothing at the moment that's ongoing. Speaker 500:35:10Okay. Speaker 900:35:11Thanks. Operator00:35:15We now turn to Gabe Hajde with Wells Fargo. Your line is open. Please go ahead. Speaker 900:35:23Stephan, Bob, good morning. Echo this and congratulations, Bob. I'm sure you're going to enjoy the weather and welcome Vanessa. I had a question about the pipeline. Sometimes always tough on the outside. Speaker 900:35:38We sort of have to trust the team. But you gave us some data points that in dollar terms project and number of projects, I think versus 2019, that pipeline has been up kind of consistently just above 40% or so. Can you give us an update maybe today where it sits and where you would expect that to trend maybe over the next 18 months or some timeframe that seems reasonable 24 months as you commercialize some of these things that are in the pipeline, maybe the central nervous system treatments that you guys are working on? Yes, sure. Speaker 200:36:19Look, we feel very good about about the pipeline. It continues to grow. We mentioned I think last time that even though we have commercializations and that means things come out of the pipeline. We have replenished it, the pipeline with the same or larger amount. I think we'll give you an update on the pipeline again in October when we have our investor event, small commercial. Speaker 200:36:47We will be in France October 2 and 3. So anybody who hasn't signed up yet, Mary would love to hear from you. And I'm pretty sure at that time we'll be able to give you an update. And I don't expect significant deviation from the trend line overall, whether it's nasal devices, whether it's inhalation, whether it's ophthalmic, whether it's injectables, we see good pipeline inflow. Also on the digital health front, we make very good progress. Speaker 200:37:21I mentioned a few apps, the Biogen deal continues to help us in our business development efforts. So overall, feel good about the pipeline, feel good about the prospects and ultimately that has also informed our decision to raise again our dividend after the 8% last year, almost 10% this year. So that kind of gives you a feeling of the underlying confidence in the pipeline. Speaker 900:37:54Thank you, Stefan. And maybe just one more, I'll take another stab at the M and A question. From your vantage point, is there anything that you see in the pipeline from a size perspective that's different than what you all have done in the past or assets that you see potentially coming to market size wise that are larger in nature versus again like what you've done in the past? Thank you. Speaker 200:38:29Yes. I would not say that in principle there is something different. Clearly today we have a market cap that approaches $10,000,000,000 So bolt on size means probably something different when the market cap was half that size, but the general attitude is still the same. We love these bolt on deals that come with good management that give us additional capability, technologies that we can spread across the company and leverage or geographic footprint. And I'm not a big fan of large transformative deals that tend to be much riskier. Speaker 400:39:13Perfect. Speaker 900:39:14Thank you and good luck. Thanks, Gabe. Thank you. Operator00:39:21We have a follow-up question from George Staphos with Bank of America. Your line is open. Please go ahead. Speaker 400:39:28Thanks for taking my question. Following on some of the questions here at the end of the call regarding M and A and the pipeline, obviously, there were some headlines earlier in the week with some peers in the dispensing market getting together and that look that happens all the time. Can you talk, Stephane and Bob, about how the competitive landscape may be changing? Do you view some of the more recent announcements as something that Aptar will have to navigate even more carefully now from a competitive standpoint in terms of making sure your moat is as solid as ever, making sure your pipeline is growing to Gabe's point earlier? Or do you feel, hey, listen, this is normal course and we'll focus on our pipeline, our new products, our commercialization and the rest will take care of itself? Speaker 400:40:25So that's question 1. And question 2, I recognize having covered you a long time, you're not going to guide necessarily on the Q4, but should we expect at a minimum continued increases in earnings throughout the year? Can you maintain relatively consistent trends in earnings from Q3 into Q4 based on the pipeline, based on the fact you raised the dividend, based on the fact that comps maybe get a little bit easier in pharma from your earlier Q and A with Ghansham? Thanks and good luck in the quarter. Speaker 200:41:00Sure. I'm going to leave the second question for you, Bob. Let me take the first question. Yes, look, these packaging assets are very attractive assets, especially for PE firms. They change hands often. Speaker 200:41:17You referred to Vincent where it was one of them was picked up by strategic. We don't really see a change in the competitive environment. So I would much more call this in the ordinary course. I mean, specifically talked about that one. Silgan is respected company, respected operator. Speaker 200:41:40We don't see a change in Speaker 600:41:51And George, you're 100 percent right. We're not going to comment on the 4th quarter earnings looking forward. So I don't want to disappoint you. Speaker 400:42:01Bob, you go out with a bang here. Speaker 600:42:05I got one more in me, George. Come on, come on. I got one more in me. Don't push me out just yet. But I think the dividend increase of 10%, in my opinion, was a strong signal in our confidence in the near term future of what we're doing. Speaker 600:42:234th quarter, to be perfectly transparent, is always very difficult to forecast, right? We've had really strong 4th quarters. We've had very weak 4th quarters, right? It depends on where we will be probably in economic cycle and where the confidence level is. There's a lot of uncertainty going on, particularly with elections and things like that. Speaker 600:42:46So let's see where it goes. But certainly, sitting here today and that dividend increase should be the indicator that we see a good near term future on the horizon. Speaker 400:43:00Okay. Thank you so much. Good luck in the quarter. See you next one. Speaker 900:43:04Thanks, George. Thank you. Operator00:43:08This concludes our Q and A. I will now hand back to Mr. Stefan Tanda for closing remarks. Speaker 200:43:14All right. Thank you. So as you see, we continue to focus on executing the ambitious earnings growth plan that we shared with you at the Investor Day with a strong focus both on the top line and the structural and ongoing productivity gains all to ensure that the bottom line grows faster than the top line. In that vein, Q2 was another solid quarter, continuing our double digit adjusted EPS growth for the quarter as well as for the first half. And again, as a reminder, we had $3,500,000 in non recurring costs that was not adjusted out in the quarter also. Speaker 200:43:57We see how momentum continue in the second half with further pharma growth. If you can hear from my voice, COVID is a life and well, so Bob and I sit in separate rooms. So that will certainly help consumer healthcare also. Cost management and strong operational performance continue and we will benefit from the productivity measures such as the quarter 2 plant closing in France. Also as a reminder, even in a slowing economy, we are confident about our future trajectory. Speaker 200:44:33As we just discussed, it also underpins our decision to increase our dividend yet again by 10%. Order book and project pipeline remains strong and customers continue to engage well with our innovations. They appreciate the technology and value we bring to their brands and their drug developments, including our ongoing leadership and sustainability. We're well positioned from an operational perspective and our regional footprint gain increasing competitiveness around the world. And as we discussed, our larger investments are behind us and CapEx is kind of normalizing, adding to our cash generation. Speaker 200:45:25We talked about the strong balance sheet and strategic flexibility. And with that, I would say all this bodes well for the second half. Bob, Vanessa, Mary and I and Dan are looking forward to discuss with you more on the road. And again, a small commercial for our investor event in France on October 2 and 3. And with that, I wish everybody a good summer and see you on the road. Operator00:45:54Ladies and gentlemen, today's call has now concluded. We'd like to thank you for your participation. You may now disconnect your lines.Read morePowered by