West Bancorporation Q2 2024 Earnings Call Transcript

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July 25, 2024

There are 7 speakers on the call.

Operator

Hello and welcome to Westbank Corporation Inc. Q2 2024 Earnings Call. All participants are in a listen only mode. After the speakers' remarks, we will have a question and answer session. As a reminder, this conference is being recorded.

Operator

I would now like to turn the call over to the company's Chief Financial Officer, Jane Funk. Please go ahead.

Speaker 1

Thank you, and welcome everybody. Thank you for joining us today on our second quarter earnings call. I've got with me today Dave Nelson, our CEO Harley Olliston, our Chief Risk Officer Brad Winterbottom, our Bank President and Brad Peters, our Minnesota Group President. We'll start off the call today. I'll turn it over to Dave Nelson.

Speaker 2

Thank you, Jane, and good afternoon, everyone.

Speaker 1

Sorry. I got to go back. I got to read the fair value disclosure. Sorry about that. I got ahead of myself.

Speaker 1

I'll read the fair value or the fair disclosure statement. During today's conference call, we may make projections or other forward looking statements within the meaning of the Safe Harbor provisions of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995 regarding future events or the future financial performance of the company. We caution that such statements are predictions and that actual results may differ materially. Please see the forward looking statement disclosure in our 2024 Q2 earnings release for more information about risks and uncertainties which may affect us. The information we will provide today is accurate as of June 30, 2024 and we undertake no duty to update the information.

Speaker 1

Now, I'll turn it over to Dave Nelson.

Speaker 2

Thank you, Jean. Good afternoon, everyone, and thank you for joining us. Also, thank you for your interest in our company. I have some general overview comments and others will provide more detail. Our first quarter really went as we expected.

Speaker 2

Our loan growth was essentially flat during the quarter and we had good deposit growth during the quarter and also our yields are improving. Net interest income is increasing and we believe our margin has stabilized. Our credit quality remains pristine and we have no credit problems. We opened our new headquarters building in West Des Moines during April and it feels like we're now really getting settled in. Yesterday, we declared a $0.25 per common share dividend payable August 21 to owners of record as of August 7.

Speaker 2

Those are the extent of my prepared remarks and I'd now like to turn the call over

Speaker 3

to our Chief Risk Officer, Mr. Harley Olson. Thanks, Dave. Commercial real estate is what everyone seems to want to talk about today when assessing the quality of the loan portfolio. We have no past dues in our commercial real estate portfolio.

Speaker 3

I attribute this to our strong seasoned customer base. We look to provide credit to borrowers that have significant net worth, liquidity and multiple sources of income. We quarterly stress test our commercial real estate portfolio to see if we have trends that concern us. In our last stress test, we have looked at all of the different types of commercial real estate and have the lowest loan to value we have experienced and very strong and consistent debt service coverages. Our watch list on our total portfolio stands at 0.3 percent.

Speaker 3

Here are some statistics on our commercial real estate portfolio by type. Multifamily, we have $621,000,000 outstanding with an average loan to value of 69% and a debt service coverage of 1.35. Warehouse properties, we have $303,000,000 outstanding with loan to value of 67% and a debt service average debt service coverage of 1.9. Our office properties total $188,000,000 with an average loan to value of 67% and a debt service coverage of 1.38. Mixed use type properties stand at 103,000,000 with loan to value of 65 percent and a debt service coverage of 1.95.

Speaker 3

Our hotel properties totaled $278,000,000 with a loan to value of 64% and an average debt service coverage of 1.37. Our medical office properties total $178,000,000 with an average loan to value of 58% and an average debt service coverage of 2.49. Our senior care facilities total $108,000,000 with a 64% average loan to value and a debt service coverage average of 1.38. Office property has come under a great deal of scrutiny due to many cities having a downtown office and other retail crisis with the work from home, leaving those downtown cores devastated. We have no significant downtown office, multi tenant properties in our portfolio.

Speaker 3

About 40% of our office properties are owner occupied. Another area that concerns me is senior care facilities due to the high cost of operations. Although we have seen this cost coming down since the end of the pandemic, we have passed on doing more of this type of blending need, but due to the high cost of operations. The economy in our regional markets has remained strong. Our bankers have been focusing on building both sides of our balance sheet and had numerous deposit successes.

Speaker 3

At the end of our prepared remarks, I will be available for questions. And with that, I will turn it over to our Bank President, Brad Winterbottom.

Speaker 4

Thank you, Harley. For the quarter ended June 30, 24, our loan portfolio was relatively flat when compared to the Q1 ended threethirty 1. Outstandings were just under $3,000,000,000 For the 1st 6 months of 'twenty 4, our loan portfolio grew $71,000,000 or 2.43 percent driven primarily on vertical construction loan commitments. We have slightly over $123,000,000 in unfunded commitments on vertical construction draws that should occur over the next 12 months. Deposit gathering sales efforts continue to be an emphasis in a highly competitive environment in the markets we serve and we're winning our fair share of battles.

Speaker 4

We have and continue to see good opportunities in markets we grow we serve, excuse me, to grow our market share, but remain selective in our loan opportunities. We remain confident in our abilities to create and maintain positive relationships with our customers and prospects that we're pursuing. With that, I'll turn it over to Mr. Peters.

Speaker 5

Thanks, Brad. Good afternoon, everyone. I'm going to provide a brief update on our progress in Minnesota. We continue to build new business in each of our Minnesota regional centers. We are focused on C and I and high value retail deposits.

Speaker 5

Our team is actively calling on and consistently We continue to navigate through a challenging environment due to the rapid rise in interest rates. These challenges have created new opportunities for our team. The quality of our bankers and our relationship based approach has set us apart from our competition. We have built facilities designed with relationship building in mind. We are leveraging these facilities to have high quality 1 on 1 discussions that lead to opportunities to grow our business.

Speaker 5

The new facility in our Oatana market is under construction and we anticipate we'll be occupying the new bank late in Q4 of this year. Those are the end of my comments. I will now turn the call back over to Jane.

Speaker 1

Thanks, Brad. Our net income this quarter was $5,200,000 compared to $5,800,000 in the Q1 of 2024 $5,800,000 in the Q2 of 'twenty three. There was no provision for credit losses recorded in the 2nd quarter. As previously mentioned, our credit quality remains pristine. Our net interest margin has stabilized the last few quarters.

Speaker 1

Net interest income was up $480,000 in the 2nd quarter compared to the Q1 of 2024, which is the 2nd straight quarter of an increase in net interest income. Non interest expenses have increased as expected with the occupancy of our new corporate headquarters. And our as mentioned earlier, our loan growth was about 2.4%, primarily due to funding of construction loans. And our deposit balances at June 30 include a large deposit from a municipal customer that we expect to draw down over the next 12 months to 18 months for a construction project. Excluding those funds and any broker deposit activity, the core deposits have increased 1.9% year to date.

Speaker 1

Those are the highlights I was going to cover. That's the end of our prepared comments. And now we'll open it for questions.

Operator

Our first question comes from Andrew Liesch from Piper Sandler. Please go ahead. Your line is open.

Speaker 6

Hey, good afternoon, everyone.

Speaker 1

Hi, Andrew.

Speaker 6

I just want to stick with the loan growth here, some pretty good pipeline of construction. How is that looking here for the Q3? And are there any large payouts that you see coming down the pipe?

Speaker 4

We have a few payoffs scheduled probably in the maybe the $20,000,000 $25,000,000 range that will get replaced with funded commitments. We you can get surprised with, hey, we sold this property and it's going to close in 60 days. But the ones that we are aware of are roughly around $25,000,000

Speaker 6

Got it.

Speaker 4

We have been very selective in adding new projects based upon where we stand with CRE and our liquidity position.

Speaker 6

Got it. That's very helpful. Then on the funding side, great to get that win from the municipality. It sounds like there are some other potential commercial customers. Where do those stand and any timing of some potential deposit trends, larger deposits?

Speaker 4

Well, we have roughly 30 commercial bankers and about 15 principal bankers and that's their job daily to go out and find those deposits. So we are chasing any and all. It's very competitive. We are seeing CDs that might be months that are north of 5%, but we're competing. We're chasing the lower priced type deposits as well as non interest bearing deposits.

Speaker 4

I'm not answering your question very well, but we're out hunting every day.

Speaker 6

No, that's very helpful. Very good information. Thank you. Jane, on the expense front going forward, higher on the occupancy like you mentioned and as was expected, Is this like $13,200,000 number a good run rate until maybe the next branch and office in Minnesota hits expenses?

Speaker 1

It's probably pretty close. I mean, I think we would have had a full quarter of occupancy in the new headquarters in this quarter. And there was we had some one time costs in there with the move and stuff, but it's probably a reasonable assumption.

Speaker 6

Got it. And then a little bit of an uptick once the new Minnesota office comes in there?

Speaker 1

Yes, that will be probably January, December, January. And that's the smallest building that we've constructed. So that will be smaller scale.

Speaker 6

Okay. Very helpful. And then Harley just the increase in the watch list, any commentary behind that like what drove that increase this quarter?

Speaker 3

We just have a couple of commercial customers that had a weaker operating performance that they're well capitalized, well secured. We expect them to meet their projections for this next year and come through it and continue to be good commercial customers. And again, like I said, I almost get embarrassed talking about our watch list because it's so low at 3 tenths of 1% of our total portfolio. We have a couple of non accruals that have been with us for a while that we expect will pay off in the next well, I think they'll all be gone before the end of the year, but there's some closings that are scheduled from sale or refinance of those.

Speaker 6

Got it. That's really helpful and some good trends to hear. And then I guess towards the end of my question, the deposit that came on looks like you that was used to fund some payoffs of some brokered funding. If you have handy, what was the rate that the deposits came on versus the brokers that were paid off with that spread?

Speaker 1

They were very similar. Okay. Yes. Okay.

Speaker 6

So it really does seem like that the margin stabilized here. Do you think that you need rate cuts for it to start moving higher?

Speaker 1

We probably don't. I mean, we're seeing good improvement on the loan yields and our cost of deposits is really kind of is stabilizing. Probably one of the challenges that we'll see in the net interest margin is we do have a couple of fixed rate interest rate swaps that will be maturing in the second half of the year. And a couple of those have rates below 2%. So we'll be refinancing, resetting rates on those.

Speaker 1

So but I think we are seeing yield improvement on loans that's a little bit in excess of what we had expected.

Speaker 6

Great. A little bit of margin expansion then, get some rate cuts and help a little bit after that then. That sound reasonable?

Speaker 4

Good. Good.

Speaker 6

That covers all my questions. Thanks so much.

Operator

We have no further questions. I would like to turn the call back over to Jane Funk for any closing remarks.

Speaker 1

All right. Thank you. We just want to thank everybody for joining us today and we look forward to talking to you again next quarter. Thank you.

Operator

This concludes today's conference call. Thank you for your participation. You may now disconnect.

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