Hope Bancorp Q2 2024 Earnings Call Transcript

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July 29, 2024

There are 7 speakers on the call.

Operator

Good day, and welcome to the Hope Bancorp 20 24 Second Quarter Earnings Conference Call. All participants will be in listen only mode. After today's presentation, there will be an opportunity to ask questions. Please note this event is being recorded. I would now like to turn the conference over to Angie Yang, Director of Investor Relations.

Operator

Please go ahead.

Speaker 1

Thank you, Megan. Good morning, everyone, and thank you for joining us for the Hope Banc Corp. 2024 Second Quarter Investor Conference Call. As usual, we will be using a slide presentation to accompany our discussion this morning, which is available in the Presentations page of our IR website. Beginning on Slide 2, let me start with a brief statement regarding forward looking remarks.

Speaker 1

The call today contains forward looking projections regarding the future financial performance of the company and future events as well as statements regarding the proposed transaction between Hope Bancorp and Territorial Bancorp. The closing of the proposed transaction is subject to regulatory approvals, the approval of the stockholders of Territorial Bancorp and other customary closing conditions. Forward looking statements are not guarantees of future performance. Actual outcomes and results may differ materially. Hope Bancorp assumes no obligation to revise any forward looking projections that may be made on today's call.

Speaker 1

In addition, some of the information referenced on this call today are non GAAP financial measures. For a more detailed description of the risk factors and a reconciliation of the GAAP to non GAAP financial measures, please refer to the company's filings with the SEC as well as the Safe Harbor statements in our press release issued this morning. Now we have allotted 1 hour for this call. Presenting from the management side today will be Kevin Kim, Hope Bancorp's Chairman, President and CEO Juliana Beliska, our Chief Financial Officer Peter Koh, our Chief Operating Officer is also here with us as usual and will be available for the Q and A session. With that, let me turn the call over to Kevin Kim.

Speaker 1

Kevin?

Speaker 2

Thank you, Angie. Good morning, everyone, and thank you for joining us today. Let us begin on Slide 3 with a brief overview of the quarter. For the Q2 of 2024, we earned net income of $25,300,000 or $0.21 per diluted share. Excluding notable items, our net income was $26,600,000 and our earnings per share were $0.22 Notable items this quarter included merger and restructuring related costs and a partial reversal of a prior accrual for the FDIC special assessment.

Speaker 2

Our results this quarter reflect continued progress in improving our financial performance following our strategic reorganization late last year. During the Q2 of 2024, our net interest margin expanded, our operating expenses decreased and our return on assets improved. We are diligently working on our merger integration planning with territorial Bancorp and look forward to closing the pending transaction by year end. Territorial will contribute stable and low cost deposits to our franchise and their loans will more than double Hope's residential mortgage portfolio. On Slide 4, you can see that we ended the quarter with strong capital and all our capital ratios expanded from March 31, 2024.

Speaker 2

As of June 30, 2024, our total capital ratio was 14.42 percent and our tangible common equity ratio was 9.72%. Our high capital ratios are a strong base with which to support emerging growth opportunities. Our Board of Directors declared a quarterly common stock dividend of $0.14 per share payable on August 22 to stockholders of record as of August 8, 2024. Continuing to Slide 5. At June 30, 2024, our total deposits were $14,700,000,000 essentially stable quarter over quarter.

Speaker 2

Our frontline continued to execute well with an increase in our non interest bearing demand deposits and other customer deposits, largely offsetting a planned runoff of broker deposits. Moving on to Slide 6. At June 30, 2024, our gross loans totaled $13,600,000,000 a decrease of $87,000,000 or less than 1% quarter over quarter. Dollars 30,000,000 of this decrease was from SBA loans sold in the 2nd quarter. Overall loan production improved this quarter.

Speaker 2

Residential mortgage growth was once again robust and commercial real estate loans were stable. However, this was offset by elevated payoffs and paydowns within C and I loans. Based on our strengthening pipelines, we are looking forward to positive loan growth in the Q3. On Slides 78, we provide more details on our commercial real estate loans, which are well diversified by property type and granular in size. The loan to values remain low with a weighted average of approximately 47% at June 30, 2024 and the profile of our CRE portfolio has not changed.

Speaker 2

Asset quality is stable and 98% of the commercial real estate portfolio was pass graded at June 30, 2024. With that, I will ask Juliana to provide additional details on our financial performance for the Q2. Juliana?

Speaker 3

Thank you, Kevin. Beginning with Slide 9. Our net interest income totaled $106,000,000 for the Q2 of 2024, a decrease of $9,000,000 from the Q1. Approximately $4,000,000 of the sequential decrease was attributable to the net impact of the payoff of our bank term funding program borrowings in late March early April, which we paid off in full with interest earning cash. Quarter over quarter, our net interest margin expanded by 7 basis points to 2.62%.

Speaker 3

A notable highlight is the deceleration in the quarterly increase of our cost of deposits. Quarter over quarter, our average cost of total deposits increased by only 3 basis points, the lowest quarterly rate of change since the Q1 of 2022. On Slide 10, we show you the quarterly non interest income was Our non interest income was $11,000,000 for the 2nd quarter, an increase of 34% from $8,000,000 in the 1st quarter. We resumed sales of SBA 7 loans as secondary market conditions improved. We sold $30,000,000 this quarter and booked a $2,000,000 net gain on sale.

Speaker 3

We plan to continue selling SBA loans in the second half of the year. Moving on to non interest expense on slide 12. Our Q2 2024 GAAP non interest expense was $81,000,000 compared with $85,000,000 in the 1st quarter. Excluding notable items, non interest expense for the 2nd quarter was $79,000,000 down 4% quarter over quarter and down 9% year over year. The largest component is salary and employee benefits expense, which was down 7% quarter over quarter and 16% year over year.

Speaker 3

You can see the positive impact of the restructuring in the year over year comparisons. Now moving on to Slide 13. I will review our asset quality, which continues to remain stable. Non performing assets at June 30, 2024 were $67,000,000 down 37% quarter over quarter. The non performing asset ratio improved to 39 basis points of total assets at June 30, down from 59 basis points as of March 31.

Speaker 3

Net charge offs for the 2024 second quarter were $4,400,000 or annualized 13 basis points of average loans compared with 10 basis points annualized in the 1st quarter. Net charge off levels continue to be low and manageable. For the 2nd quarter, the provision for credit losses was $1,400,000 compared with $2,600,000 last quarter. At June 30, 2024, our allowance for credit losses was $156,000,000 representing 115 basis points of loans receivable. The reserve coverage ratio has been essentially stable, comparing with 116 basis points as of March 31, 2024 or 115 basis points as of December 31, 2023.

Speaker 3

With that, let me turn the call back to Kevin.

Speaker 2

Thank you, Juliana. Moving on to the outlook on Slide 14. In terms of our Q4 2024 outlook relative to the Q4 2023 actual results, we have the following updates. 4th quarter to 4th quarter, our outlook for average loans to grow at a percentage rate in the low single digits remains unchanged. Residential mortgage loan growth continues to be robust.

Speaker 2

Commercial loan production continues to strengthen and we expect the pace of pay downs and payoffs to moderate. Accordingly, we are looking forward to positive loan growth in the second half of the year. We now expect net interest income for the Q4 of 2024 to decline approximately 10% from $126,000,000 in the Q4 of 2023. Approximately 3% of this decrease comes from the net impact of the payoff of the bank term funding program, which contributed a positive $4,000,000 to our net interest income in the Q4 of 2023. Relative to our initial budgeting, our net interest income expectations are lower reflecting the cumulative impact of payoffs and paydowns in the first half of the year.

Speaker 2

Market wide loan spread compression on new originations and the year to date shift in deposit mix. We successfully controlled deposit costs in the Q2, but deposit pricing remains very competitive as long as the rates interest rates remain high. In our outlook, we are factoring in 1 Fed Funds target rate cut of 25 basis points in September of 2024. Overall, we expect the Q2 of 2024 to be at or near the trough in terms of net interest income with quarterly growth by the Q4 of 2024 mainly driven by loan growth. In the Q2, we resumed SBA loan sales and expect to continue to sell SBA loans in the second half of the year.

Speaker 2

We remain very focused on disciplined expense control. We now expect our Q4 2024 operating expenses excluding notable items to decrease by more than 7% from $85,000,000 in the Q4 of 2023. This is an update compared with our prior outlook for an expense decrease of over 5%. Lastly, we continue to assume an essentially stable asset quality backdrop and stable reserve coverage, which was 115 basis points of loans as of June 30, 2024. Overall, as you see on Slide 15, we are right on track toward realizing our medium term financial goals, namely high single digit loan growth plus revenue growth over 10% and efficiency ratio under 50% leading to a return on assets over 1.2%.

Speaker 2

Following our reorganization in the 2023 Q4, 2024 is a building year as we focus on core deposit initiatives, operating efficiencies and process improvements to support scalable and profitable growth. We are excited about our pending merger with Territorial Bancorp whose contribution will accelerate the achievements of our medium term targets. With that, operator, please open up the call for questions.

Operator

Our first question comes from Matthew Clark with Piper Sandler. Please go ahead.

Speaker 4

Hey, good morning everyone. Just the first one on the loan growth outlook, Backing into what you need to do to get to low single digits on average for the Q4 implies a decent step up in the second half here. Can you just talk through what's going to drive that growth and what the pipeline looks like at this stage?

Speaker 2

Well, Matthew, as you may remember, historically, we have been very strong in terms of our new loan originations. Our loan production engine was the main driver for our organic growth at a much faster pace than most of the peers in the pre COVID times. But when we had industry wide challenges such as what we saw in the past 2 years, most of the issues we had were deposits in the liability side of the balance sheet. So when we had a strategic reorganization in October of 2023, it was designed to support high quality loan and deposit growth. Obviously, we wanted to focus more on enhancing our deposit franchise before we strive to achieve a meaningful loan growth.

Speaker 2

Our 2024 second quarter numbers indicate that we began to see the results of our priority on deposit front such as meaningful reduction in broker time deposits, growth in customer deposits, very nominal quarter over quarter increase in our average cost of deposits, expansion of NIM and so on. So now we expect our loan balances to grow in the second half of twenty twenty four as we focus high quality growth in both loans and deposits. And our pipeline loan pipeline is has been nicely building up actually. And I think our loan growth when we have a better deposit environment will be accelerated and we feel pretty confident as we had shown in the past that our loan production will be the engine for the growth in the second half of the year.

Speaker 3

And Matthew, this is Juliana. If I can add just a couple more comments. Quarter to date, for example, our commercial loans are up. And when we look at the Q2, the issue for us the Q2 or the headwind for us in Q2 has been the elevated payoffs and paydowns as opposed to production meeting budget to actuals. And our commercial real estate was able to beat budget.

Speaker 3

So we feel comfortable when we look out into the second half of the year that the drivers are aligning well.

Speaker 4

Okay, great. And then on the loan yields, they were down this quarter. Not sure if that was just due to the SBA loan sales or not. Just any commentary there in the related outlook?

Speaker 3

It does reflect to the mix of the loans that were being originated visavis just kind of what was running off. And in terms of the commercial loans, there has been spread compression this year in terms of origination. So that does kind of factor into the loan yields and plus of course you have the accounting related items, not accounting related, but the non yield items such as quarter over quarter changes in prepayment fees and or quarter over quarter changes in non accrual income reversals. But also when you look at the origination yields of say commercial real estate compared to 2023 or for commercial loans compared to 2023. There has been market wide spread compression.

Speaker 3

And that does factor into the outlook, which is part of the reason why we did lower the NII outlook in our outlook side.

Speaker 4

Got it. And then on the margin, do you have the average for the month of June and the spot rate on deposits at the end of June?

Speaker 3

I have the spot rate for the end of June, which is at 3.43.

Speaker 4

Okay. And then on the

Speaker 3

SBA loan sales? Sorry, 3.43, just to make sure we're talking about the same number, 3.43 spot rate of total deposits.

Speaker 4

Yes. Got it. And then on the SBA loan sale, should we assume a similar amount gets sold in the second half year per quarter?

Speaker 2

Yes, I believe so. We began to sell the SBA loans in the second quarter and we are currently selling more loans in the Q3 and I expect the total loans to be sold in the 3rd quarter will be more than the number that we had in the 2nd quarter.

Speaker 4

Great. Thanks again.

Operator

Our next question comes from Chris McGratty with KBW. Please go ahead.

Speaker 5

Great. Kevin and Giuliano, Slide 15, the medium term targets, which are 26 and beyond. If I look at current profitability, I mean, that's basically a doubling of your ROA.

Speaker 2

You talked about the expenses.

Speaker 5

What rate outlook is incorporated into this medium term target?

Speaker 3

It's based on the It's based on the current forward curve. Although for the rate cuts for the rest of this year, as you can see, we're only factoring September just because things near term, there's so much variability. But in the longer term, we are factoring in the current forward curve on Fed funds, which eventually settles at 3.75%. But hold on, let me get you the 2026 and 2027 numbers in a second. Go on to your next question.

Speaker 5

Okay, great. I guess the follow-up would be what betas are you assuming in the down rate for both deposits and for your assets?

Speaker 3

Well, the variable rate assets, floating rate assets, as you know, that is loans, Those are going to have a high beta because those reprice automatically. It's just a matter of timing within the month of when the kind of rate cuts happen. And for deposits, we are assuming a lagged beta, a low beta upfront for the first several cuts before we kind of get to a more normalized beta over time. Okay. One thing I will point out go ahead.

Speaker 5

No, no, go for it, Giles.

Speaker 3

One thing I'll point out is in this quarter, we have gone through an exercise of reviewing our deposit pricing and making sure that all the exception pricing and exceptions are warranted, so to start to control our deposit costs ahead of rate cuts. And so we're not assuming a high deposit beta upfront, but we are assuming that we will be able continue to be disciplined in how we approach deposit pricing post our reorganization. That is a change to our practice vis a vis before and an improvement.

Speaker 5

Okay, great. And then just the last one I had would be just tax rate. How should we be thinking about the tax rate from here?

Speaker 3

We are assuming 26% for the full year. So that does have a lower tax rate in the second half of the year based on when certain tax credit investments and their amortizations kind of hit our P and L.

Speaker 5

Okay. Thank you very much.

Operator

Our next question comes from Gary Tenner with D. A. Davidson. Please go ahead.

Speaker 6

Thanks. Good morning. Hoping you could provide the CD maturity schedule for the back half of the year with the rates that are coming off.

Speaker 3

One second. And let me just answer back to finish Chris' question for 2026. We've got the terminal fed funds at the end of 2026 at 4.25 and 3.75 the following year in 2027. And the maturity of our CDs maturing in the second half of the year, we've got the rates that are coming off are 5.10%, 5.12% kind of neighborhood. And the maturities that are coming off in the 3rd quarter is $1,560,000,000 and in the Q4 we got $2,100,000,000

Speaker 6

And what's your sense at least going to the Q3 what the renewal rate outlook would be?

Speaker 3

I think the renewal rate outlook will be hopefully lower than the current one for the simple reason that we have recently reduced pricing.

Speaker 6

Okay. Thanks. And then, my other questions were mostly answered. But on the I noticed in your kind of walk through of the non recurring items in the quarter, the tax provision was different on the press release versus the deck. I'm assuming the one in the press release is the correct one, but wanting hoping you could confirm that?

Speaker 3

I would use the earnings release and the tables as your primary source document.

Speaker 6

Sounds good. Thank you.

Operator

This concludes our question and answer session. I would like to turn the conference back over to management for any closing remarks.

Speaker 2

Thank you. Once again, thank you all for joining us today, and we look forward to speaking with you again next quarter. So long, everyone.

Operator

The conference is now concluded. Thank you for attending today's presentation. You may now disconnect.

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