LTC Properties Q2 2024 Earnings Call Transcript

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July 30, 2024

There are 9 speakers on the call.

Operator

Good day, and welcome to the LTC Properties Incorporated Second Quarter 2024 Earnings Call. At this time, all participants are in a listen only mode. After management's prepared remarks, there will be a question and answer session. Before management begins its presentation, please note that today's comments, including the question and answer session, may include forward looking statements subject to risks and uncertainties that may cause actual results and events to differ materially. These risks and uncertainties are detailed in LTC Properties' filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission time to time, including the company's most recent 10 ks dated December 31, 2023.

Operator

LTC undertakes no obligation to revise or update these forward looking statements to reflect events or circumstances after the date of this presentation. Please note that this event is being recorded. I would now like to turn the conference over to Wendy Simpson. Please go ahead.

Speaker 1

Thank you, operator, and welcome, everyone, to LTC's 2024 Second Quarter Conference Call. On the call with me today are Clint Malin, Co President and Chief Investment Officer and Pam Kessler, Co President and Chief Financial Officer. The 2nd quarter went generally according to plan. We did encounter a challenge with respect to occupancy issues at select assisted living communities operated by ALG Senior, but we very quickly provided solutions that are in the best interest of LTC, our partner and our shareholders. With the full cooperation at Bay LG, we were able to neutralize the impact to LTC while enhancing our portfolio and providing us with additional security.

Speaker 1

Clint will explain as part of his portfolio review. As with other REITs, over the years, we have responded to challenges presented by industry and operator specific headwinds. Our track record demonstrates that we've done so with expediency and transparency, and the ALG situation is no different. Our philosophy and mission have not changed and we remain committed to our 2024 guidance and future growth.

Speaker 2

Thank you, Wendy. I'll first discuss the steps we took to address the occupancy issues underlying some of our ALG investments. At a high level, we provided rent assistance for 2 of our investments at the end of the second quarter and in exchange reconfigured mortgage loans due from affiliates of ALG into 2 joint venture investments. First, we agreed to defer a total of $1,500,000 in rent from ALG for May June related to an 11 property assisted living portfolio in North Carolina that we own through a joint venture accounted for as a financing receivable. This receivable had a balance of $121,400,000 at June 30, 2024.

Speaker 2

Additionally, we agreed to defer up to $250,000 in rent per month as needed as they build back census to the remainder of 2024. The maximum deferred rent from July through December would be 1,500,000 dollars 2nd, we agreed to no rent on a single property lease in South Carolina for May through September 2024 with quarterly market based rent resets thereafter. At June 30, 2024, this property had a gross book value of $11,700,000 and a net book value of $8,200,000 In conjunction with the rent assistance, LTC wrote off $321,000 of straight line rent receivable in the 2nd quarter. Previous annualized rent on this lease was $900,000 Third, we funded $8,300,000 under 2 mortgage loans. In consideration for the rent assistance I discussed, these mortgage loans were converted to 2 joint ventures giving us majority ownership stake in 17 assets, 13 in 1 joint venture and 4 in another.

Speaker 2

After the $8,300,000 of additional loan funding, the joint venture investments related to these 17 properties are configured as follows. We exchanged our $64,500,000 mortgage loan for a 53% interest in a joint venture that now owns 13 assisted living communities, 1 in South Carolina and the rest in North Carolina. We exchanged our $38,000,000 mortgage loan for a 93% interest in a joint venture that now owns 4 assisted living communities in North Carolina. Each of these joint ventures then leased the properties to an affiliate of ALG under 10 year master leases maturing at the end of June 2,034 with purchase options available through June 2028. In accordance with GAAP, these investments are being accounted for as a financing receivable.

Speaker 2

Combined contractual annual rent under the 2 new master leases is $7,400,000 compared with $6,900,000 of annualized cash interest due under the previous mortgage loans as a result of the additional $8,300,000 in cash we invested. For the month of July, we received total contractual rent and interest related to our ALG investments less a $250,000 deferral. All of our investments with ALG are now cross defaulted and cross collateralized providing us with added security. Our pathways for repayment of the deferred rent are through ALG's exercise of their purchase options, occupancy improvements within our investments or through proceeds from potential sales of properties to a third party. We have successfully managed all lease maturities in 2024 including our HMG extension through which they repaid $1,500,000 on their $13,500,000 working capital note in the 2nd quarter and an additional $10,400,000 in July.

Speaker 2

Lease maturities in 2025 represent 3% of rental income. We collected contractual rent from former operators related to properties previously transitioned as Pam will discuss. As detailed in our supplemental on Page 16, coverage continues to increase across our portfolio. With respect to our pipeline, subsequent to the end of the second quarter, we committed to fund a $26,100,000 mortgage loan for the construction of a seniors housing community in Illinois. We expect to begin funding this commitment in early 2025 after the borrower has contributed $12,300,000 of equity to initially fund the construction.

Speaker 2

The loan term is approximately 6 years at a current rate of 9% and an IRR of 9.5%. We look forward to updating you on the progress of our pipeline next quarter. Now I'll turn things over to Pam for a review of our financial results.

Speaker 3

Thank you, Clint. Because we have provided significant detail on our press release, supplemental and Form 10 Q, I will keep my remarks at a high level today. Please note that all numbers discussed are for the Q2 of 2024 compared to the same period in 2023 unless otherwise noted. I'll start with liquidity. At June 30, we had total liquidity of nearly $190,000,000 including just over $6,000,000 of cash on hand, about $118,000,000 available on our line of credit and roughly $65,000,000 available under our ATM.

Speaker 3

Moving to our 2nd quarter financial results. Net income available to common shareholders increased principally due to an impairment loss last year, higher interest income from loan originations, receipt of insurance proceeds and lower interest expense, partially offset by higher G and A expense and provision for credit loss. Fully diluted FFO per share was $0.65 compared with $0.66 Excluding non recurring items, FFO per share was $0.67 compared with $0.66 As discussed last quarter as subsequent events, we originated a $12,700,000 mortgage loan to Ignite Medical Resorts and recorded $295,000 of revenue from this investment during the Q2. We expect to record approximately 880 $4,000 of revenue for the full year. We funded $3,900,000 of a previously disclosed $19,500,000 mortgage loan commitment with $12,600,000 remaining.

Speaker 3

Subsequent to the end of the second quarter, we sold an assisted living community for 8,000,000 dollars and anticipate recording a gain on sale of approximately $3,600,000 in the Q3. As part of the transaction, we received contractual rent through the remainder of the lease term, which would have expired in January 2025 in the amount of $441,000 As Quint mentioned, subsequent to the end of the quarter, we recorded $2,600,000 of income from former operators related to portfolio transitions in prior years and we received a $10,400,000 pay down on HMG's working capital note. We also expect 2 maturing loan receivables totaling $80,500,000 to pay off before the end of the year. During the Q2, we sold 204,700 shares of LTC's common stock for net proceeds of $6,500,000 under our ATM program. We paid $4,000,000 in scheduled principal pay downs on our senior unsecured notes during the quarter and repaid an additional $18,200,000 subsequent to June 30.

Speaker 3

During the Q2, we also paid $24,800,000 in monthly dividends of $0.19 per share and borrowed $4,700,000 under our unsecured revolving line of credit. Our debt to annualized adjusted EBITDA for real estate is down to 5.3x from 5.5x for the prior quarter and our annualized adjusted fixed charge coverage ratio is up to 3.7 times from 3.5 times for the prior quarter. Our 3rd quarter guidance for FFO, excluding non recurring items, is between $0.66 $0.67 per share. Non recurring items for the 3rd quarter relate to the $3,100,000 in income from former operators and the rent collected in connection with the property sale as discussed earlier. Our full year guidance for FFO excluding non recurring items remains $2.63 to $2.65 per share.

Speaker 3

Non recurring items for the full year include the $3,100,000 expected for the Q3 as well as the non recurring items recognized to date as detailed in our earnings release. This guidance assumes no additional investment activity, asset sales, financing or equity issuances, but does assume that the loans receivable I mentioned pay off at maturity. Now I'll turn the call back to Wendy for closing remarks.

Speaker 1

Thank you, Pam and Clint. This quarter, we worked cooperatively with one of our largest operating partners to help them address a challenge, while improving our security and gaining a majority ownership position in our investments. I'm very proud of LTC's track record with respect to successfully mitigating challenges as they arise and that we've done so quickly and transparently. With continued improvement across our industry, I remain optimistic that we are on the right path for growth. Before closing, I would like to welcome our new Board member, Bradley Priever.

Speaker 1

Brad is the Chairman of our Audit Committee and comes to LTC after retiring as CEO of Grant Thornton. We look forward to his contributions. Thank you to everyone who joined us today. We look forward to talking to you again after the Q3. Operator, we are ready to take questions.

Operator

Certainly. The floor is now open for questions. If you have any questions or comments, please press star 1 on your phone at this time. We ask that while posing your questions, you please pick up your handset if listening on a speakerphone Your first question is coming from Juan Sanabria with BMO Capital Markets. Please post your question.

Operator

Your line is live.

Speaker 4

Hi. Good morning and thanks for the time. Just on ALG, I guess, could you be a little bit more specific about the issues that happened that caused the deferrals and all these changes to take place. And as part of that, maybe you could comment a

Speaker 2

little bit on

Speaker 4

why provide them a purchase option and kind of what you got in return as part of the negotiations?

Speaker 2

Sure, Juan. So really it's a function of 2 issues that surfaced on ALG, which these challenges came to light in May. One was the occupancy challenge that Wendy referred to in her prepared remarks on 12 of the communities. And on those 12 communities in some smaller markets, there were some staffing challenges and some of those staffing challenges were really evident in a decline in occupancy. An additional impact to the buildings is these investments have a component of an affordable senior living product that has a Medicaid waiver component.

Speaker 2

And in North Carolina, they've had a longstanding Medicaid waiver program. And as you probably recall, the cyber attack that happened on Change Healthcare did have impacts on reimbursement aspects for Medicaid and Medicare through intermediaries. And that did impact ALG on their Medicaid revenues, which was a short term temporary impact that they felt and further exacerbating that is ALG did not have a line of credit in place for Medicaid which you typically find on skilled nursing why we didn't see I think which is the reason why we didn't see this in our skilled nursing portfolio as far as impact. So really it was this staffing challenges at certain communities that has led to occupancy declines in certain assets. And then the short term impact that was experienced through the cyber attack, which is evidenced by us giving a lesser amount of deferred rent starting in July.

Speaker 2

And really on the as far as the purchase options, these investments were always intended to be shorter term for ALG to take these out through agency financing. So we kept the integrity of that. Obviously, it was negotiation because we had different investments. ALG had different investors in those pools. So an important aspect for us was being able to convert our mortgages from a mortgage position into an equity position.

Speaker 2

And that was important part of that in exchange for that of getting across default and cross collateralization across all investments that was the negotiation which facilitated the purchase options that we allowed ALG to maintain. Additionally, on this portfolio that we provided the deferred rent, when we underwrote it, I mean it had positive coverage when we acquired the buildings. They have had a pretty big drop in this portfolio of about 700 basis points in occupancy that really is an impact. So we think with ALG's focus on being able to build back occupancy through staffing improvements that they'll be able to get back to a point where they can cover. And in giving the purchase options, what we also did is we created another pathway for recovery of this deferred rent that we provided on the 11 property portfolio.

Speaker 2

And we think that was an important element to get from a credit standpoint.

Speaker 4

Okay. Thank you for that. And then just as just so I understand, the deferrals are not reducing guidance because you're sticking with straight line accounting. You're not cash accounting for ALG, is that correct?

Speaker 3

That's correct, Juan. Yes, the effective interest method similar to mortgage loans. So there was no difference in FFO between mortgage loans and the owned properties accounted for financing receivables.

Speaker 4

And how should we think about the difference between FAD and FFO? Presumably, you won't capture the deferrals through normalized FAD, correct?

Speaker 3

Yes, that is correct. But as I said in my prepared remarks, we have about $3,100,000 that we're collecting in the Q3. So those offset for the year.

Speaker 4

Okay, great. And then just one last one for me. Sorry to hog the mic here to start, but what happened on the SNF occupancy side? It looks like that declined as well looking at the footnoted disclosure for the latest June trends in the stuff?

Speaker 2

I think that probably is more just seasonal looking at summer. I don't see any big impact to that. So you do see some dips in summer months and I don't think there's anything that's abnormal.

Speaker 4

Great. Thank you very much.

Speaker 2

Thank you.

Operator

Your next question is coming from Austin Wurschmidt with KeyBanc Capital Markets. Please pose your question. Your line is live.

Speaker 5

Hey, good morning everybody. Just sticking with ALG here, I guess following the sale and releasing of some of the older rural ALG assets earlier this year. I mean, did you consider any alternative routes, I guess, for these portfolios as well? And were there signs of distress leading up to some of the items you highlighted that impacted them, it sounded like in May?

Speaker 2

Well, there is an alternative. ALG was looking at alternatives for financing and paying off these investments because of the deferral and the timing. We didn't want to wait and allow them to pay it off. I'm not sure when the other financing would close. So for us to be able to provide the deferral, we needed to execute on the ownership of that.

Speaker 2

But ultimately for ALG taking out this portfolio through agency financing, I think will benefit them long term. And I think that remains their objective on this. And as far as the impact for us really became more it came obvious in May when they needed assistance. I think that was sort of the impact of the change healthcare issue catching up with them. But we still think that their execution to be able to acquire these buildings is still in their interest.

Speaker 5

Got it. And then sorry if I missed this, but I mean are you starting to see occupancy of these assets begin to recover and have they address some of the staffing challenges that you highlighted in your prepared remarks or in response to an earlier question maybe?

Speaker 2

One thing too, right now on this portfolio that of the 13 buildings, ALG has been pursuing agency financing, has gotten in the process of getting appraisals. So that's already in the works that ALG has been working on. So we do have that. Really the challenge primarily was just in this portfolio, this 11 building portfolio as far as occupancy concerns. The 2 other portfolios occupancy has been stable or increasing in the other.

Speaker 2

So it really seems to be focused on this and we're working with ALG to understand those staffing challenges and being able to regain occupancy, which they had at one point in this portfolio.

Speaker 5

Got it. And then just last one for me. Just on the deferral balances that you've had a couple of these one time collections you've highlighted. I guess, how big of a balance is that? And what agreements do you have in place to recover those rents over time?

Speaker 2

Well, our primary balance outstanding is probably a little bit over $3,000,000 from 1 Yes,

Speaker 3

dollars 3.5.

Speaker 2

From 3.5 from 1 operator specifically. We have various security instruments in place from assets, personal guarantees. We have a pathway to recovery. We did not include it, obviously in our earnings, not certain when we'd be able to collect, but

Speaker 3

Yes, the timing is uncertain, which is why we don't include it negotiated the deferral several years ago.

Speaker 5

Understood. And so you're just recognizing that and that's the offset from the deferral the new deferrals that you provided to ALG, just to make sure I'm understanding that correctly?

Speaker 3

Correct. Yes, it does not apply to it's not related to this operator. It was a transition that happened actually earlier last year.

Speaker 5

Understood. Thanks for the time.

Operator

Your next question is coming from John Please pose your question. Your line is live.

Speaker 6

Hi, thank you. I guess first, it felt like on the last call you started to get more positive on the potential for, A, a larger investment pipeline and B, more fee simple asset acquisitions. Are we nearing that? Like should we expect a positive inflection in the second half of the year?

Speaker 2

Well, right now we have Nick published data. There's $25,000,000,000 in the debt maturities through 2026. And we've been talking about this wall of debt for a while. We haven't seen the opportunities come to fruition as we

Speaker 7

thought.

Speaker 2

And I think part of that is owners that have had to invest additional money, see the potential for maybe some rate cuts and or maybe holding out hope on that. So there's still a disparity between the bid and ask on those type of opportunities. And so we're still we're actively monitoring and watching and hopefully these opportunities come to fruition.

Speaker 6

Got it. And then maybe if you could take a minute to dive into the purchase options you have outstanding. How do you size the risk of the portfolio of those in terms of estimating what you think will be executed on? And as you go forward, how necessary will it be to continue to provide in these to execute deals?

Speaker 3

Well, currently, we're not projecting any of the purchase options in the near term to be exercised. A lot of these were given in a much lower interest rate environment. So I'm not sure the math is there from an equity and debt raising standpoint. And when we've talked to investors, there is a big distinction between a debt maturity and a purchase option. A debt maturity is certain and it comes and a purchase option is just that.

Speaker 3

It's something that gives the operator optionality in the future. And for them, it's very important psychologically to be able to at some point in the future control their asset. And so it doesn't seem to be a difficult thing for us to give on. Actually, the assets that we have sold have not been subject to purchase options. We've elected to sell certain assets to operators.

Speaker 3

And in my recent memory, I don't believe we've even had a purchase option exercised. You would say if you're in a good relationship with your capital provider and everything's going smoothly, why would you want to exercise a purchase option? The only reason you would do it is if the math is really compelling and you could raise that much equity to take it out. But we're very careful in laddering our purchase options so that we don't have a ton of cash coming back in any 1 year. Yes, correct.

Speaker 3

They're not all in 1 year. Just like our debt maturity ladder, our purchase option windows are laddered as well.

Speaker 2

And the other thing we've done, John, on this too, it's in some of our purchase options, we provided an alternative of an earn out as opposed to a purchase option. So really giving an operator flexibility on that. But our goal obviously is we build relationships, get purchase options. As we do additional deals, I mean, you can extend out that purchase option and there's different ways to work proactively with our operating partners to address those purchase options, the date as we continue to focus on the laddering of those purchase options. Thank you.

Speaker 2

Thank you.

Operator

Your next question is coming from Rich Anderson with Wedbush. Please pose your question. Your line is live.

Speaker 7

Thank you. Good morning. Just so I apologize, I just need a little bit more clarity. There's 3,100,000 dollars of deferral collections in the 3rd quarter and that offsets the $3,000,000 of deferrals that you're offering potentially offering ALG. Is that right?

Speaker 1

That is correct.

Speaker 7

Okay. And but the $3,100,000 will come in, in the Q3 whereas the $3,000,000 would be ratably through to the end of the year, right? So just I'm just thinking in terms of modeling.

Speaker 3

Yes, that's right. You have $1,500,000 coming in the Q2 for the May June, and then you have $1,500,000 coming July through December. So that's the deferral side. And then yes, the $3,100,000 of cash received from previous deferrals, if you want to call it that. And then there was the 400,000 dollars related to the asset that we sold where we collected rent through the initial term.

Speaker 3

That comes in the second I mean, I'm sorry, the 3rd quarter, all in the Q3. So yes, which you'll probably normalize.

Speaker 7

Well, offset is in the 3rd quarter, the $3,100,000 but the impact, the negative impact from the $2.50 per month is ratably over the 3rd Q4?

Speaker 3

Correct.

Speaker 7

Okay. In terms of the purchase option, you said you don't expect them to be exercised. Do you feel that way also for what you just offered ALG?

Speaker 2

No. That was always intended to be a takeout to agency financing. So we think that they still like I said, they were already in process of agency financing. So we think that will continue.

Speaker 3

Yes. That we do expect, I mean, anticipate.

Speaker 7

Any you have it out to 2028 depending on what we're talking about, what should we expect something happening this year or any idea when this could trigger?

Speaker 2

Specific it'll probably be probably not all at one time. It will be some properties at different times. So possibly a few at the end of the year, but mostly it's 25, I would say sort of pro add up through 2025.

Speaker 7

And you're saying the payback happens in one way through the purchase option exercise because then you just figure that into the purchase option math. Is that right? And to get your Correct.

Speaker 2

Because of the cross collateralization, funds received in excess of the purchase price would relieve other liabilities of hotel TC across all investments.

Speaker 7

Okay. So I guess I'm curious as to why you gave a purchase option on all 3 JVs and not just the one where there's problems. Is it your intention to really essentially get out of I know ALG has come to the rescue for you and they've been a partner in many ways, but is your ultimate goal to sort of exit entirely and that's why you get the purchase options across the board?

Speaker 3

The original had a purchase option. So the 11 property portfolio on which we gave the deferrals that already had the purchase option.

Speaker 7

Right, right.

Speaker 3

The other 2 loans that converted. Yes, we gave purchase options on the 2 loans that converted to retain the integrity of what the original investment was, which as Clint pointed out was short term kind of bridge to agency financing.

Speaker 2

Okay. Fair enough.

Speaker 7

And

Speaker 2

you can bridge on that too, Justeo, because their Medicaid waiver affordable senior living product, we just think that's probably a better long term solution from permanent financing through agency.

Speaker 7

Okay. Last for me, not an ALG question, but more big picture, I think we're all hoping for the end of the word deferral to happen soon post pandemic. Would you say that barring this situation, you're really sort of in a much better spot from that standpoint? Or could you still be talking about some sort of deferral situation for other operators down the road? Or is it like a sort of a watch list that you still have your eye on?

Speaker 7

Thanks.

Speaker 2

Right now, we've seen coverage starting to tick up a little bit in our portfolio. On the private pay side, we view that to be positive. Skilled nursing is getting Medicaid rate increases. So right now, those are positive aspects going forward.

Speaker 7

Okay. Thanks very much.

Speaker 2

Thank you.

Operator

Your next question is coming from Michael Carroll with RBC Capital Markets. Please pose your question. Your line is live.

Speaker 8

Yes, thanks. Just real quick on ALG. How broad based of an issue is it? I know you offered the deferrals on one group of assets, but then you did give them incremental dollars related to a new mortgage loan on another group of assets. So is the issue just the problem with the assets that you gave the deferrals to?

Speaker 8

Or did the other group need additional capital through the incremental mortgage loan that you provided?

Speaker 2

The assets we gave the deferral on.

Speaker 8

So what was the reasoning behind the mortgage loans? So why did you when you transitioned your investment in the JV from a mortgage loan to a JV, you provided additional capital too to that JV. So what's the reason in providing that additional capital?

Speaker 2

Well, they had different investor groups in those two portfolios. We were buying into that where there was positive value. So we had to contribute to participate in that. There were some funds that were used for security. We hold as part of the overall negotiation, we're holding security, security deposit on that, real estate tax impounds, things of that nature.

Speaker 2

So it was and nothing came out of that portfolio. So that was just part of the overall transaction on the conversion.

Speaker 8

Okay. Did they pay out investors with that additional $8,000,000 I think it was $8,000,000 or is it just to go pay back like accrued taxes? Is that what you said?

Speaker 2

Taxes, we've the security, they brought current some AP, things like that. It all stayed within the portfolio. There were no distributions allowed.

Speaker 8

Okay. And then related to the agency debt, I guess, on the purchase options over the next few years, how long does it take to get agency debt? I thought that was like a 12 month process. I mean, do they need to stabilize the assets at a certain level before they want to go access it? Is that why the purchase option is over the next few years?

Speaker 2

Correct. Just to afford them time to go ahead and do it. It does take a while. Although on the portfolio that has the 13 properties for $65,000,000 they've already been in the process of that. And in addition, they are looking at the USDA as financing as this is an affordable senior living product.

Speaker 2

There is a financing mechanism to the USDA that does provide agency financing to rural markets and that is a product that they were pursuing and the rates are advantageous for them to use that financing mechanism.

Speaker 1

And this operator has experience in that. He already has USDA financing, so he knows how to do it and the qualifications thereof.

Speaker 8

Okay. Could we expect these purchase options to happen sooner rather than later if they're already in the process of getting some of the secured financing?

Speaker 2

I think you're probably going to see it. There could be some toward the end of this year, Mike. But as I mentioned previously, it's probably going to be over the course of 2025. It will all not all be financed out at one time. It will be in chunks, but we would expect that to happen over the

Speaker 1

course of 2025. But we're first money out. Yes. We are first money out, Mike. So it's not like the it's going to be a percentage allocation on the first asset that gets sold or gets refinanced.

Speaker 1

We're first money out.

Speaker 7

Okay. Thank you.

Speaker 2

Thank you.

Operator

You have a follow-up question from Austin Wurschmidt with KeyBanc Capital Markets. Please pose your question. Your line is live.

Speaker 5

Hi, thanks. Just one clarification for me. I understand the puts and takes for annual guidance being affirmed, but what more than offset the $1,500,000 rent deferral in 2Q versus the quarterly guidance you gave last quarter?

Speaker 3

I'm not sure I understand the question you're saying. Because it was converted to financing. Yes. So it's in FFO guidance. So your financing receivable and your mortgage loan receivable, it has the same effective interest method.

Speaker 3

So it's the accounting is not any different. So the deferral didn't go through FFO because of effective interest. It does affect FAD, but the guidance we're giving is FFO guidance.

Speaker 4

Right,

Speaker 5

right. And then you still came in, I guess, a penny above the high end of that range. Was there something else just specific that I guess drove the quarterly achieved amount higher than what you had forecasted?

Speaker 3

No, it was just basically rounding.

Speaker 5

Understood. Thank you.

Speaker 1

Thank you.

Operator

There are no additional questions in the queue at this time. I would now like to turn the floor back over to Wendy Simpson for any closing remarks.

Speaker 1

Thank you again everyone for joining us and having these clarifying questions. I know it was a complicated transaction and we tried to explain it both in our Q and our supplemental and in our prepared remarks. But indeed, if you still have questions to run your model, call Pam. And we look forward to talking to you next quarter. Have a great day.

Operator

Thank you, everyone. This does conclude today's conference call. You may disconnect your phone lines at this time and have a wonderful day. Thank you for your participation.

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