NYSE:CRK Comstock Resources Q2 2024 Earnings Report $18.38 +0.02 (+0.11%) Closing price 04/25/2025 03:59 PM EasternExtended Trading$18.62 +0.25 (+1.33%) As of 04/25/2025 05:34 PM Eastern Extended trading is trading that happens on electronic markets outside of regular trading hours. This is a fair market value extended hours price provided by Polygon.io. Learn more. Earnings HistoryForecast Comstock Resources EPS ResultsActual EPS-$0.20Consensus EPS -$0.16Beat/MissMissed by -$0.04One Year Ago EPSN/AComstock Resources Revenue ResultsActual Revenue$246.80 millionExpected Revenue$296.02 millionBeat/MissMissed by -$49.22 millionYoY Revenue Growth-14.40%Comstock Resources Announcement DetailsQuarterQ2 2024Date7/30/2024TimeAfter Market ClosesConference Call DateWednesday, July 31, 2024Conference Call Time11:00AM ETUpcoming EarningsComstock Resources' Q1 2025 earnings is scheduled for Wednesday, April 30, 2025, with a conference call scheduled on Thursday, May 1, 2025 at 11:00 AM ET. Check back for transcripts, audio, and key financial metrics as they become available.Conference Call ResourcesConference Call AudioConference Call TranscriptSlide DeckPress Release (8-K)Quarterly Report (10-Q)Earnings HistoryCompany ProfileSlide DeckFull Screen Slide DeckPowered by Comstock Resources Q2 2024 Earnings Call TranscriptProvided by QuartrJuly 31, 2024 ShareLink copied to clipboard.There are 15 speakers on the call. Operator00:00:00Thank you for standing by, and welcome to Comstock Resources Second Quarter 2024 Earnings Conference Call. At this time, all participants are in a listen only mode. After the speaker presentation, there will be a question and answer I would now like to hand the call over to Jay Allison, Chairman and CEO. Please go ahead. Speaker 100:00:32Thank you. I want to thank everybody for spending the time with us this morning going over our results. We appreciate your time. Welcome to the Comstock Resources Q2 2024 Financial and Operating Results Conference Call. You can view a slide presentation during or after this call by going to our website at www.comstockresources.com and downloading the quarterly results presentations. Speaker 100:01:00There you'll find a presentation entitled 2nd Quarter 2024 Results. Have Jay Allison, Chief Executive Officer of Comstock and with me is Roland Barnes, our President and Chief Financial Officer Dan Harrison, our Chief Operating Officer and Ron Mills, our VP of Finance and Investor Relations. Please refer to Slide 2 in our presentation to note that the discussions today will include forward looking statements within the meaning of securities laws. While we believe the expectations in such statements should be reasonable, there could be no assurance that such expectations will prove to be correct. Before I start in the formal part of the presentation, I'd like to make a few comments. Speaker 100:01:45As a pure play natural gas producer with 750,000 net acres in the Haynesville Field Basin, which is the best located to serve the growing natural gas demand along the Gulf Coast. The future for the company has never ever been brighter. However, the present challenge is managing through these times with natural gas prices at all time lows on an inflation adjusted basis. So now it's how you manage the present to shine the brightest when the rebound occurs. We have all the tools to accomplish this, including a very experienced management team who has managed in much harder times. Speaker 100:02:30Strong financial liquidity of $1,200,000,000 the industry's lowest cost structure, no bond maturities until 2029 and a very supportive major shareholder with the Jones family who recently directly invested $100,000,000 in the company to support our leasing program. Our 300,000 net acres in a legacy Haynesville still has over 1400 net drilling locations, which represents over 30 years of future drilling. In addition, we have captured 450,000 net acres in our emerging Western Haynesville area that continues to look promising with each new well that we drill. Our operations group, as Dan Harrison will address in a few minutes, is becoming more efficient with each new well drilled and is bringing down our drilling and completion costs in the new play. So even when the quarterly numbers are weaker due to natural gas prices being low, we are more encouraged than ever about the future because we trust our core region as well as our Western Haynesville region and know our task is to execute daily to continue to create wealth by de risking our new play and by reducing well cost in our new play. Speaker 100:04:01We are in broader future for natural gas in more North America for the world that I see today. Now we'll go to Slide 3, the Q2 2024 highlights. On Slide 3, we summarize the highlights for the Q2. Our financial results continue to be heavily impacted by the continued weak natural gas prices as our average realized gas price before hedging was $1.65 for the quarter. With hedging, it was $2.12 As a result, our oil and gas sales, including hedging, were $278,000,000 in the quarter and we generated cash flow from operations of $118,000,000 or $0.41 per share and adjusted EBITDAX was $167,000,000 Our adjusted net loss was $0.20 per share for the quarter. Speaker 100:05:08In the 2nd quarter, we drilled 11 successful operated Haynesville and Bossier Shale horizontal wells in the quarter with an average lateral length of 11,346 feet and we turned to sales 12 successful operated Haynesville and Bossier Shale horizontal wells with an average IP rate of 22,000,000 per day and average lateral length of 8,847 feet. We're continuing to advance our Western Haynesville exploratory play. The Western Haynesville acreage position totals more than 450,000 net acres now. We currently have 12 successful producing wells in our new play, 6 from the Haynesville shale and 6 from the Bossier shale. We recently completed the drilling activity on both 2 well pads in the Western Haynesville play. Speaker 100:06:00With the drilling efficiencies from the pad drilling, reduced the latest well drill times to 54 days. We expect to turn the next 6 Western Haynesville wells to sales around the end of the year, and we currently have 2 rigs running into play today. I'll have Roland go over the Q2 financial results. Roland? Speaker 200:06:21Thanks, Jay. On Slide 4, we cover the Q2 financial results. Our production in the Q2 of 1.4 Bcfe per day increased 4% from the Q2 of 2023. But the very low natural gas prices offset this production increase, which resulted in our oil and gas sales in the quarter of $278,000,000 declining 2% from 2023 second quarter. EBITDAX for the quarter was $167,000,000 and we generated $118,000,000 of cash flow in the quarter. Speaker 200:06:57We reported adjusted net loss of $58,000,000 for the Q2 or $0.20 per share as compared to $1,000,000 of debt income in the Q2 of 2023. The higher DD and A in the quarter, which was attributable to the decline in proved undeveloped reserves, which results from having to use the very low natural gas prices required by the SEC to determine reserves accounted for much of the loss of the quarter. As natural gas prices improve, those proved undivolved reserves will be back on the books and we'll see the DDA rate go back to its lower levels in future quarters. On Slide 5, we cover our year to date financial results. Our production in the 1st 6 months of 2024 at 1.5 Bcfe per day was 6% higher than the 1st 6 months of 2023. Speaker 200:07:53Natural gas and oil sales in the first half of the year were $614,000,000 which was down 9% from 2023's first half despite the increase in production and that's also due to the lower natural gas prices. EBITDAX for the 1st 6 months of the year was $396,000,000 and we generated $300,000,000 of cash flow during the first half of the year. We reported an adjusted net loss of $67,000,000 for the 1st 6 months of the year or $0.24 per share as compared to $93,000,000 of net income for the same period in 2023. On Slide 6, we break down our natural gas price realization in the 2nd quarter. It was a very challenging quarter as our quarterly NYMEX helmet price only averaged $1.89 The average Henry Hub spot price in the quarter was a little bit better at $2.04 Our realized gas price during the Q2 averaged $1.65 reflecting a $0.24 differential to the settlement price and a $0.30 differential to our Speaker 300:08:59reference price. Speaker 200:09:00In the Q2, we were 28% hedged, which improved our realized gas price to $2.12 On Slide 7, we detail our operating costs per Mcfe and our EBITDAX margin. Our operating cost per Mcfe averaged $0.84 in the 2nd quarter, dollars 0.08 higher than the Q1 rate, but the same as our Q2 rate of last year. Production and ad valorem taxes were $0.14 lifting costs were $0.27 gathering costs were $0.38 and our G and A costs were $0.05 in the quarter. Our EBITDAX margin after hedging came in at 61% in the 2nd quarter, down from the 68% margin we had in the 1st quarter due to the even weaker natural gas prices. On Slide 8, we recap our spending on drilling and other development activity during the quarter. Speaker 200:09:52We spent a total of $221,000,000 on development activities in the Q2. Virtually, all of that was spent on our Haynesville and Bossier Shale drilling program. In the 1st 6 months of this year, we drilled 18 or 14 point 9 net horizontal Haynesville wells and 9 or 8.6 net Bossier wells. We turned 30 wells to sales or 27.9 net operated wells and they had an average IP rate of 25,000,000 cubic feet per day. Slide 9 recaps our balance sheet at the end of the second quarter. Speaker 200:10:29We ended the quarter with $325,000,000 of borrowings outstanding under our credit facility, giving us a total of $2,900,000,000 in debt, including our outstanding senior notes. In early April, we issued $400,000,000 of additional notes due in 2029 and used the proceeds to pay down outstanding borrowings under our bank credit facility. On April 30, our bank group reaffirmed our borrowing base at $2,000,000,000 and our elected commitment stayed the same at $1,500,000,000 So at the end of the second quarter, we had $1,200,000,000 of liquidity. I'll now turn the call over to Dan to discuss our operations. Speaker 300:11:13Okay. Thank you, Roland. On slide 10 is our current drilling inventory as it stands at the end of the second quarter. Our total operated inventory now has 1698 gross locations, have 13 100 net locations and this equates to an average 77% average working interest. Our non operated inventory has 12 27 gross locations and 159 net locations, which represents a 13% average working interest across the non operated inventory. Speaker 300:11:49The drilling inventory is split between Haynesville and Bossier locations and we have it split into our 4 different groups with our short laterals that go up to 5,000 foot, our medium laterals run between 5,008,500 foot. Our long laterals from 8,500 feet up to 10,000 feet long and our extra long laterals for those over 10,000 feet. In our gross operated inventory, we currently have 258 short laterals, 352 medium laterals, 4.46 long laterals and 6.42 extra long laterals. The gross operating inventory is split with 52% in the Haynesville and 48% of our locations in the Bossier. 64% of our gross operated inventory have laterals longer than 8,500 feet and 38% of the total gross operated inventory have laterals longer than 10,000 feet. Speaker 300:12:53The average lateral in our inventory now stands at 9,077 feet and this is up slightly from 9,015 feet that we had at the end of the Q1. Our inventory provides us with over 30 years of future drilling locations based on our current 2024 activity. On Slide 11 is a chart outlining our average lateral length drilled based on the wells that we have turned to sales. During the Q2, we turned 12 wells to sales with an average lateral length of 8,847 feet. The individual lengths range from 4,222 feet up to 10,047 feet. Speaker 300:13:36Our record longest lateral still stands at 15,726 feet. 8 of the 12 wells turned to sales during the quarter had laterals longer than 8,500 feet. During the Q2, we did not have any extra long lateral wells that turned to sales. 1 of the 12 wells turned to sales during the Q2 was on our Western Haynesville acreage. This was the Ingram Martin 1H well, which had a lateral length of 7,764 feet and this well was reported on our last call. Speaker 300:14:11Looking ahead, we have several extra long laterals slated to turn to sales over the remainder of the year and we do expect our average lateral length for all of 2024 will be approximately 10,150 feet on a total of 45 wells that will turn to sales. To recap our long lateral activity date, we have drilled a total of 103 wells with laterals longer than 10,000 feet and we drilled 38 wells with laterals over 14,000 feet. Slide 12 outlines our new well activity since we last provided well results in late April. Since our last call, we have 15 new wells that have been turned to sales. The individual IP rates on these wells range from 10,000,000 a day up to 31,000,000 cubic feet a day with the average test rate of 21,000,000 cubic feet per day. Speaker 300:15:09The average lateral length was 9,802 feet with the individual lengths ranging from 4,222 up to 15,303 feet. Recapping our activity, we are continuing to run 5 rigs after dropping 2 rigs in the Q1. For our completions, we have been running 2 frac crews all year since we dropped down from 3 frac crews at the beginning of the year. This month, we also temporarily released 1 of our 2 frac crews for a short 2 month gap until we pick it up again early in Q4. 2 of the 5 rigs are currently drilling in the Western Haynesville. Speaker 300:15:49Both of these rigs recently finished drilling our first two well pads on the acreage and these two well pads will be completed in the Q4 and turn to sales just after the 1st of the year. In the Western Haynes well, we anticipate having a total of 6 wells that will turn to sales from November to just after year end. On Slide 13 is a summary of our D and C costs through the Q2 for our benchmark long lateral wells that are located on our core East Texas and North Louisiana acreage position. This covers all laterals greater than 8,500 feet long. And during the quarter, we turned 11 wells to sales that were on our core East Texas, North Louisiana acreage and 8 of the 11 wells fell into our benchmark long lateral group. Speaker 300:16:40In the 2nd quarter, our D and C cost averaged $17.30 per foot on our 8 benchmark wells, which reflects a 15% increase compared to the Q1. Our 2nd quarter drilling cost averaged $9.36 a foot, which is a 31% increase compared to the Q1. The higher drilling costs for the quarter were associated with our Baker three well pad up in the Lake Bistinoe area, where we encountered significant drilling difficulties. In addition, 4 of our 8 Mitch Mark wells were drilled inside the boundary of a gas storage facility, which requires an additional shallow intermediate casing stream to be set. Our 2nd quarter completion costs came in at $7.94 a foot, and this is a 1% increase compared to the Q1. Speaker 300:17:29We do expect our D and C costs will return to normal levels and remain flat to slightly lower for the next couple of quarters. On Slide 14 is an illustration of a new development we have planned that will utilize the Horseshoe Lateral concept that has recently gained traction in the industry. While the small handful of Horseshoe wells have been drilled in other basins, only one Horseshoe well to date has been drilled in the Haynesville shale basin, which was earlier this year. To test the concept, we recently spud a single horseshoe well in DeSoto Parish, Louisiana that is located on one of our isolated single section acreage blocks. The well is currently drilling. Speaker 300:18:11We should reach TD within the next few days. This technology will allow us to develop acreage in the future that before could only have been developed by drilling short laterals with more challenging economics. The section portrayed on this slide would have originally been developed by drilling 4,000, 5000 foot laterals from 2 pads with a $40,000,000 capital cost. We now plan to develop the section from a single 2 well pad drilling 2 10,000 foot Horseshoe laterals for $32,000,000 in capital. This capital cost represents only a 1% to 2% cost premium to a regular straight 10,000 foot lateral. Speaker 300:18:51The project will deliver 23% in cost savings or $8,000,000 significantly improving the economics and also providing some additional benefits such as reducing our surface footprint and lowering the emissions from fewer wellbores. We expect the well performance from the Horseshoe wells will match that of our regular 10,000 foot laterals. And once this technology becomes more derisked, we can further increase the average lateral length of our inventory by converting short laterals into long laterals and further enhancing our efficiencies. I'll now hand the call back over to Jay to summarize our outlook. Speaker 100:19:29Hi, Dan. Thank you, Roland. Thank you. Dan, you're talking about the horseshoe wells. I'm thinking about the majority owner of the stock is owns the Dallas Cowboys. Speaker 100:19:38Cowboys and horseshoes go together. So thank you for that report. Let's go to Page 15. I direct you to Slide 15, where we summarize our outlook for 2024. As we stated in the last quarter, we really have taken a number of steps in response to the significantly low natural gas prices this year. Speaker 100:20:00During the Q1, we announced that we'd release 2 of our operated drilling rigs. We've reduced our rig count to 5 rigs. We also released 1 of our frac spreads, reducing our frac spreads to 2 spreads. We no longer now have any long term commitments for our pressure pumping services. With those steps, our 2024 CapEx is expected to be down 34% to 41% from the 2023 level. Speaker 100:20:27We suspended our quarterly dividend that saved about 140,000,000 dollars a year in dividend payments. In late March, majority stakeholder, Jerry Jones, invested an additional $100,500,000 into the company through an equity placement that the company has. Starting in late February, we did add significantly to our hedge position starting in the Q4 of 2024 and extending that through the year end 2026. We're targeting a hedge level of 50% of our expected production level through those years. In early April, we further enhanced our liquidity position with a $400,000,000 senior notes offering, and we continue to maintain a very strong financial liquidity, which totaled just under $1,200,000,000 at the end of the second quarter. Speaker 100:21:16Our industry leading lowest cost structure is an asset in the current low natural gas price environment as our cost structure is substantially lower than the other public natural gas producers. We remain very, very focused on proving up our Western Haynesville play and continuing to add to our extensive acreage position in this exciting play. Our Western Haynesville acreage position totals over 450,000 net acres to date. We believe that we're building a great asset in a Western Angel that will be well positioned to benefit from the substantial growth in demand for natural gas in our region that is on the horizon, driven by the growth in LNG exports that began to show up in the second half of next year. I'll now turn it over to Ron to provide specifics for the rest of the year. Speaker 100:22:08Ron? Speaker 400:22:09Thanks Jay. On Slide 16, we provide financial guidance for the Q3 and the remainder of 2024. For the Q3, we expect our D and C CapEx to range between $135,000,000 $185,000,000 and our full year D and C guidance range on CapEx remains $750,000,000 to $850,000,000 The midstream capital outlook remains unchanged and the leasing capital for the 3rd Q4 remains in the $2,000,000 to $5,000,000 range. The full year moved up $5,000,000 to $10,000,000 just due to actual second quarter leasing costs. LOE and GTC costs both for the 3rd quarter and fourth and full year remain unchanged from prior levels. Speaker 400:22:59On the production in Evermore, the guidance range remains the same, which includes the impact of a lower severance tax rate in Louisiana basically being offset by a higher ad valorem rate. The DD and A rate as mentioned by Roland earlier is expected to be higher through the remainder of the year due to the current low prices. Looking ahead though, we would anticipate that to return to our more normal level in the kind of price environment that we see in 2025. No other changes to our G and A or interest outlook that we provided in prior quarters and we continue to anticipate deferring virtually 100% of our deferred taxes. With that, I'll turn the call over to the operator for Q and A. Operator00:23:56Thank Our first question comes from the line of Carlos Escalante of Wolfe Research. Speaker 500:24:34Hey, good morning, gentlemen. Thank you for taking my question. Speaker 100:24:38Good morning. Speaker 500:24:41If I go good morning. If I go if I use the second quarter completed wells as a proxy for your drilling pace on wells under 5,000 feet, I'm getting a number that is roughly less than 10% per quarter. Bearing in mind your Horseshoe concept update, how do you all see the allocation towards a potentially successful program going into the future quarters and future years? Speaker 300:25:15So this is Dan. I'll kind of address just the short laterals. Did have one short lateral that we reported here. We had basically really already kind of had drilled that well when we were having when we had our last call. But I think with the success of the Horseshoe concept, I think really the majority of all the wells short wells that we have in our inventory will convert to long laterals. Speaker 300:25:40But there will be a few where we've just got maybe one short lateral left and that's all that's left to be drilled and it's bounded by other wells where if you do if you didn't decide to drill that's you have to drill a short lateral. So we won't be able to convert all of them to 10 ks horseshoe wells, but I think a good chunk of the inventory will be able to convert to 10 ks. Speaker 500:26:04Wonderful. And then if I and my follow-up real quick on that same topic. I think that the fact that it's less than 10% that you're drilling at that specific land sort of emphasizes why market may be able or may be reticent to recognize that inventory when you say 25 years to 30 years of inventory. So on that same topic, Dan, what's the end goal here? Is it more of a recognition of what the risk may be on the concept? Speaker 500:26:36Or is this the first one for many to come? Speaker 300:26:40I think this is the first of many to come. And just like with anything that new, I think the public wants to see more of them drill. They want to see it become routine. They want to see it derisked. So I think they they're probably a little bit further into that process in the other basins. Speaker 300:26:57I think really mainly the Permian and I think a few in the Eagle Ford or the Horseshoe wells. There was one drilled earlier this year that was and it was problem free. So we and like I said, we're almost at TD on the one that we're drilling and it's been problem free to date. So we feel really good about it. I think we feel really good about significantly reducing the short laterals in our inventory. Speaker 300:27:22We'll have more 10ks or average lateral length to be up. It will our efficiencies will be way up. So we just need to do more where it becomes routine and to take some of the risk out. Speaker 100:27:36Well, like Dan said, if you save $8,000,000 when you drill these wells, a couple of them, that does add to our inventory because some of these wells we push back to the latter part of our drilling inventory. But now if you have these cost savings, you can bring them forward if you need to drill them. Speaker 300:27:52Right. And some of these we've drilled because they we've had them for a while and some of the production gets less. So we just to protect our leasehold is why we'll put some of these on our drilling schedule. Speaker 500:28:08Wonderful. Thank you, gentlemen. Speaker 300:28:10Thank you. Thank you. Operator00:28:17Our next question comes from the line of Jacob Roberts of TTH and Company. Speaker 100:28:24Good morning. Good morning. Operator00:28:28I wanted to dig in a bit more on the Baker Wells and some of the IP rates? Is there any impact to the EUR we might expect? And does this mean that region is something that might need to be avoided in the future? Speaker 300:28:47Well, it's certainly out on the edge of our acreage footprint. That is we do know from past drilling up in that area that the wellbore's stability is a little bit more the rock itself just has a little bit more instability. And so really we had normally that area up there typically drills the drilling cost is a little bit more expensive, maybe $16.50 to $1700 if that's kind of normal, whereas back over in Texas in the state line area, we're in that $14.50 to $1500 a foot. But so we had we drilled 5 wells. 2 of the wells were the ones that really gave us problems. Speaker 300:29:30We ended up had 1 well drilled to TD. We lost the lateral. We tried to sidetrack it. We ended up having to sidetrack it twice to get it drilled and then we basically had another well that we had to sidetracks on. So one very pleasant experience, but it's definitely an outlier. Speaker 300:29:45If you look at just kind of where all our acreage is, it's out on the edge. We knew that area was kind of tough to drill. So it's just a one time event. And it was we drilled it because the acreage was expiring. We had to drill it or lose it. Speaker 300:30:01And so we did decide to do full development and drill 5 wells all the way across the section. So we that's just a one time event. I think if you do pull that out, we're back around that $1500 a foot total D and C cost for this quarter, which is where we'll be at for Q3 and Q4. Operator00:30:23Okay, great. I appreciate that. My second question, so the 2, 2 well pad, it sounds like the drilling has wrapped up. We appreciate the update on the days to drill, but can you give us a sense of where cost per foot is sitting on the drilling side of things now that you're done? Speaker 300:30:42Yes. So actually we see costs going down a little bit. We actually started seeing a big movement in pipe prices just here in the last couple of months. We're working through inventory that we already have, but I think by the time we get to wells that turn to sales in Q1 that we're completing right at the end of Q4. We're seeing some significant savings on pipe cost. Speaker 300:31:04And so we'll definitely should see our D and C cost basically come down Q3 and really further into Q4 and Q1. Operator00:31:15Great. Appreciate the time, guys. Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Charles Meade of Johnson Speaker 600:31:29Rice. Good morning, Jay, Roland, Dan and Ron. Speaker 200:31:34Hey, Charles. Hi, Charles. Speaker 600:31:38I wanted to ask a question. Dan, I think you partially answered this in your prepared remarks, but I just want to make sure heard it right, maybe get an elaboration. When I was looking at your 3Q CapEx, it was it's both down versus 2Q, but it's also a pretty wide range on the upper and lower bound, at least it seems that way to me. And so, Dan, I think I heard you say in your prepared comments that you recently dropped one of your 2 frac crews. You're going to let it you're just going to be running 1 crew for August or September. Speaker 600:32:13It sounds like you're going to pick it up again. Is that did I hear that right? Is that the driver of the CapEx decline in 3Q? And what other pieces are there that maybe contribute to a wide range? Speaker 300:32:26Well, I think there's there it's not totally that, but that's the kind of significant driver. And that's just kind of a reflection of drop in the rigs earlier in the year. I mean, obviously, we got less wells to complete. We went from 3 to 2, I think, basically right at the 1st of the year. We've been running 2 all year. Speaker 300:32:43We just gapped this 1 frac crew probably a couple of weeks ago. We're slated to pick it up around like the 1st week of October. So but we also just like I mentioned earlier, we see the cost coming down. The pipe prices were coming down significantly finally. That's kind of one of the last pieces where we've seen the prices come down. Speaker 300:33:04We've already seen the rig costs come down a little bit, the frac costs come down a little bit earlier this year. So just overall, the cost of services coming down coupled with that 1 frac crew being gone for 2 out of the 3 months for Q3 is the driver on CapEx. Speaker 600:33:23Got it. That is helpful detail. And then the question about the drilling times in the Western Haynesville. So, you guys highlighted the 54 days. Can you put that in some bigger context of where your early wells fell on how many days it took to drill? Speaker 600:33:43And also what you think is a reasonable goal for days to drill in the next 12 or 18 months? Speaker 300:33:50Yes, I think so we've made great progress on our drilling days to TD and the Western Haynesville. We now the wells have been different lengths, so that kind of comes into place on the number of days, especially in the Western Haynesville with the higher temperatures. But we generally were around like that 85 day mark when we started. And we've shaved it down to these last couple of wells on these 2 well pads were 54 and 56 days. So that's pretty significant. Speaker 300:34:24And I think there's still some running room there. We're still got some efficiencies. We look to gain drilling in the laterals. So I think we can move that number down Speaker 200:34:33a little bit. You might add that those with the low number of days was with those were long laterals, correct? Speaker 300:34:40Yes. And those were both I think one of them we had one was a 10,000 foot lateral, one was just under 11,000 foot lateral. So and those are both in the Haynesville with the higher temperatures. So I mean that's kind of the everything we drill today that's temperatures. So yes, we've made a big improvement there. Speaker 300:35:11And like I said, we still are working on a few things to work those numbers down a little bit lower. Speaker 100:35:16Charles, from the first Speaker 300:35:17well to Speaker 100:35:18the 16th well, you go from 85 days to 54 days. That's 31 days you save. That's a whole month's drilling, even if you use 26, 27. That means that the wells that we're drilling now, I mean, we've saved half the time. If it's 54 days, I mean, we've already shaved off 26, 7 days. Speaker 100:35:43So these wells, you'll probably end up drilling another well per year because of our drilling efficiencies with the same number of rigs, it could equate to that. That is huge savings. And your questions are on cost savings. 31 days of drilling with these deeper, hotter wells, that's a lot of money. Speaker 600:36:04Got it. Thank you. That's helpful context, Jay and Dan. Speaker 300:36:08You bet. Thanks, Charles. Operator00:36:12Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Bertrand Dunn of Truist. Speaker 700:36:19Hey, good morning guys. Just staying on the Horseshoe wells, the example you give looks very promising on the cost side. I know it's early, but are there any expectations on the productivity of these wells? Do you get the full amount that you would have gotten from the 2 shorter laterals? Or do you kind of lose like 5% of the recoveries? Speaker 700:36:38And how does the shape of that well look like? Is it a lower pro form a IP than maybe the 2 combined wells, but a lower decline or any thoughts there? Speaker 300:36:48Yes, it's a really good question. So we definitely expect the performance to be the same as the 10 ks well. The only really mild difference between a horseshoe well and a 10,000 foot across two sections of straight lateral is on the straight lateral, you do get complete across the section line, that 6 60 foot. There's a the state you can't perforate within 3 30 foot of the lease line. So on a horseshoe well, you basically got 2, 4,600 foot sections, 9,200 foot. Speaker 300:37:20We're on a 10 ks, so on a straight 10 ks, you get to perforate a little bit more as far as the amount that's completed across the 10 ks. So but on a per unit basis, we expect the performance to be totally the same. Speaker 700:37:37That's great color. Thanks. And then shifting gears, on the private side of the Haynesville, we can see some of the data on our side. It looks like there's been some drops on the rig side throughout the year, but over the last 4 months or so, it's been kind of stable. I'm just wondering if you have a temperature check maybe on the private operators in your discussions with them. Speaker 700:37:57Do you get the impression that they've already settled into a steady program or are they also looking at the strip right now and actively debating maybe dropping some activity? Speaker 200:38:07Well, we don't we really don't have that lot of insight other than kind of knowing how we coordinate our schedules with the other operators. But I think the private operators cut rigs back very dramatically and they're kind of kept that same rate. So we haven't seen any increase in activity that's on the horizon. I think they're waiting to really see when gas prices kind of justify that. And so the higher rig count has been on the public side mainly with the Southwestern. Speaker 200:38:43Yes. I think Other than that, everybody else but them has dropped a lot Speaker 800:38:46of rigs. Speaker 300:38:47Yes. I agree with Roland. I think you'll basically everything you'll kind of stay status quo until everybody sees these gas prices move up. Speaker 100:38:56Well, and if you look at the core, that 9,000 square miles, what they call the core, when you drill a well there, either Beaujoir Haynes where you got a 40% decline in the 1st year. So you need to be real careful about drilling in a $1.90 gas price, whereas in like in the Western Haynesville, we hadn't seen that type of decline. So that would be another reason whether you're private or public that you don't aggressively drill these wells. Speaker 700:39:21That's great point. Thanks guys. Operator00:39:26Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Kevin McCurdy of Pickering Energy Partners. Speaker 700:39:38Hey, good morning guys. I wanted Speaker 900:39:40to ask about activity toggles. Now that the debt covenant is a little less of concern, just given the state of gas prices, is there any situation which would result in the frac holiday extending into 4Q? Or are there any other changes you would consider this year to activity levels? Speaker 300:39:59I think we're I think the frac holiday is I think we've pretty much got it set. I don't really see it extending further into Q4. Just based on what we know today and where we see prices going. And so I mean really kind of a short answer there, but I think our schedule we kind of look at it pretty set. Speaker 200:40:20We look at it all the time. So we can obviously pull those levers if we see that, you still see the gas prices improving as you get to the very end of the year. And so to have so I think unless kind of 25 changes and dramatically I think that's kind of what would drive our activity level in the Q4. Right. Speaker 300:40:44And we're not contractually obligated obviously with frac crews. So I mean we could definitely get things that would really change. I mean obviously we can change with it. Speaker 100:40:55And fortunately in the Q4 we do hit our swap position where we're hedged 50% at the 3.50%. So that's something that if prices do continue to deteriorate, we will at least end up in that quarter. And then we have I think we've adequately hedged 'twenty five, 'twenty six so far with 35 percent of our production hedged at the 3.50 plus range. And as we said in the opening, our goal is to hedge at least 50% of all of the 25, 26 production. So we are getting out of the 20 plus percent hedge environment into the 50% environment. Speaker 900:41:38Thanks for that. That's helpful. And just wanted to ask, did any Speaker 100:41:42of the 2Q weather impacts go into the Q3? Or did Speaker 900:41:45you guys see any impacts from the hurricane? Speaker 300:41:50We did have impacts from the hurricane. Basically, Hurricane Beryl, yes, when it moved up into the we didn't have any impacts in our Western Haynesville area, but when it moved up into our core area, there were just a it really spawned a ton of tornadoes and really the thing that hurts us is not necessarily our operations, but all the treating third party treating facilities that we flow to, basically, they go down on lost power. So it really does really hurts our production. We're just kind of at their mercy. And we did have that for approximately a week to 10 days Speaker 400:42:27in July. And that impact is incorporated in the Q3 guidance. Yes, correct. Speaker 900:42:34Appreciate it. Thank you. Operator00:42:38Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Leo Mariani of Roth. Speaker 1000:42:46Yes, guys. Wanted to just dig in a little bit more into kind of expectations heading into the 4th quarter. I think you guys have previously talked about 4th quarter production being down around 10% year over year. I know a couple of wells kind of slipped into January potentially. So wanted to see if that's still roughly valid. Speaker 1000:43:08And then with respect to Q4 CapEx, looks like that's getting ready to maybe move a little higher as the frac crew comes back. Just trying to get a sense, should 4Q CapEx look more like Q2 of 'twenty four CapEx? Speaker 400:43:23So good questions. There's no change on that in terms of the Q4 of 2024 versus Q4 of 2023. It looks like it can be down about 10%. And as we've talked about, that's a function of the timing of dropping those 2 rigs in February March and kind of that 6 to 9 month lag between dropping activity and seeing it show up in production. And then you're absolutely right. Speaker 400:43:50The CapEx level in the Q4 will return more to the level you that you mentioned. A lot of that is a function of what we've discussed earlier with the frac holiday all occurring in the Q3. That's why the Q3 and Q4 are so different in terms of CapEx levels. Speaker 200:44:12Well, in the Western Canada, but really the really no wells coming on in the second half of the year for the most part. And then a lot of production coming on in the Western Haynesville right around the end of the year. Maybe a few wells are on right before that and a lot in early January. But we actually like the way that lines up with the gas market and all that. Speaker 100:44:40Yes, Leo, that's a hope to pile the 2 D analysis. Those are the wells we drill on the pads, the 2 per pad and then the Hodges and the Miles. That's the wells really the last week of December maybe or the 1st week of January 2025. That's when we've modeled it to come in. Speaker 1000:45:01Okay. That's very helpful color. And then I know obviously, 2025, a little early here for that today, but just trying to get a sense, I mean, looking at strip prices for next year, kind of 3.25% to 3.30% currently. As you look out, is that the right level that you think for Comstock to kind of get back to where it was and add a couple of rigs to kind of get back to 7 rigs? Is that kind of how you're thinking about it here today is to kind of bring those rigs back kind of way next year? Speaker 200:45:32Yes. That price level is obviously is definitely works well for Comstock. And it's still early. Like I said, we don't really set our activity for next year until we get more into the Q4 and then November, even December and make those decisions. But I mean, yes, we do like the way that what the futures market has out there. Speaker 200:45:57We'll just see if that materializes and then having a stronger hedge position will also help support that program in 2025 than what we had coming into 2024. Speaker 800:46:11Okay. Thanks, guys. Speaker 100:46:14Thanks, Leo. Operator00:46:16Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Neil Mehta of Goldman Sachs. Speaker 1100:46:26Yes. Good morning, team. Thanks for taking the time. Two questions. The first was just your perspective on the A and D market. Speaker 1100:46:34And how do you think about both acquisitions or potential proceeds from divestitures as we make our way over the course of the next year? Are there opportunities to optimize on a smaller scale or even medium to larger term larger size bolt Speaker 100:46:52We all I mean, we have incoming opportunities all the time. We look at all of them. And some of them, we react to and go forward in like acquiring the acreage that we did the last quarter. But our real focus is right now is to end the outspend and get our production going up, not going down. So we need to take care of that. Speaker 100:47:20Our inbound calls that we have, they're mainly data centers that want to do business with us. They're utilities. They're storage. They're more acreage, a little bit of acreage to clean up what we haven't leased. And Ron has budgeted for that. Speaker 100:47:35So as like we said in the very beginning, our goal is if the M and A market is about inventory, inventory, inventory, our goal is that with the 450,000 plus net acres in Western Haynesville, we should have incredible inventory adds that goes with the 1400 locations that we have in our core. That's really our goal. Our goal is like a Dan Harrison focus and that's operations. You test your geological group and we tested that group for 4 years. We've had successful wells and with success, we've added new acreage and each of the wells seems to be a little bit better. Speaker 100:48:20They're a little different, but it seem to be a little better. And the question that was asked earlier, if you can drill these wells in 54 days, well, now if you drill 2 of those wells in 50 4 days, you almost add a third well compared to the 85 days we used to drill these in. So that's efficiencies in numbers, saves you a lot of money. Like every 2 wells in the old day, now you get a third well for the same amount of money. That's the efficiencies that we see. Speaker 100:48:52So if we continue to prove up the geology, continue to test the seismic that we have in the area and the wells continue to perform like they have and clean up like they have, I think our goal is just to prove that we created great wealth when the market comes to us with this great gas demand for power generation and LNG and industrial demand. That's our focus. We've spent a lot of money putting together this world class footprint in the Western Haynesville and now we just want to derisk it well by well. We're not on a big M and A binge at all. Speaker 1100:49:40Yes, that's great perspective. And then the follow-up is just one question we get asked a lot is sort of the breakevens of the Western Haynesville. When you think of your cost of supply to earn a cost of capital return fully burdened for G and A and interest and all the ancillary, What is that breakeven in your mind for Henry Hub equivalent? Speaker 200:50:08Well, of course, it's evolving in the Western Haynesville as we're continuing to work down the drilling and completion costs. But kind of where we see the cost be in with efficient program that we'll have next year with 4 rigs and kind of with the pad drilling that makes puts it more starts to get it more on par with our traditional Haynesville. We actually the two areas are going to be very similar as far as internal rate of return and cost per reserves found. I mean, the difference is we have a lot more money in a Western Haynesville well, but we have a lot more reserves. I mean the reserves are double. Speaker 200:50:51So it's a different type of play. The declines are different. So there's we're still trying to figure out what how to produce the Western Haynesville wells. And so there's a difference there that you get probably a little bit more production out of a traditional Haynesville well in the 1st 6 months. But then the 2nd 6 months, you'll get a lot more production out of a Western Haynesville well because the way we're producing them with a much tighter choke. Speaker 200:51:22But in the end, they're very comparable. And as far as returns, especially where we see the cost getting to now that we're kind of getting into a more development stage. So and we're very pleased with that. Speaker 100:51:38And I think to add on to that, if you look at this inventory depletion, which will happen, you run out of Tier 1s, you go to Tier 2s. So the bang for the buck is not quite there in Tier 2 or 3 because you run out of Tier 1s. So if our Western Haynesville is compared to Tier 1 and we have all this acreage and we derisk it, our inventory is going to be materially stronger than you would have if you did a big M and A. M and A is just acquired more in the same area. Speaker 1100:52:13Thanks, team. Operator00:52:16Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Phillips Johnston of Capital One Securities. Speaker 1000:52:27Hey, thanks for taking Speaker 1200:52:28the question. It's really a follow-up to Leo's question. The $25,000,000 plan is obviously very much TBD, but if you do stay at 5 rigs for the balance of the year and you bring that back in Q4, as you look out into the first few months of next year, just from a momentum perspective, would you expect your volumes to be directionally flat, up or down versus Q4 levels? Speaker 200:52:56That will be up with those Western Haynesville wells coming on. Yes. Speaker 300:53:01Okay. That's all. Thanks, Roland. Speaker 100:53:06Thanks, Philip. Operator00:53:08Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Noel Parks of Toy Brothers Investment Research. Speaker 800:53:22Hey, it's Noel. Good to talk to you. Just had a couple I wanted to run by. So in terms of the Western Haynesville with the greater depth and the heat and pressure and so forth, I was wondering if you could talk a bit about where things stand with the instruments and tools that I understand had had some adaptation to be able to work at those levels. Just where are you? Speaker 800:53:49Is any of that you're doing proprietary? Anything new that you're going to be implementing in the next slate of wells? Speaker 300:54:01This is Dan. So we basically use the same tools in the Western Haynesville that we use in the core. We basically how we apply them is a little bit differently. But as far as our MWD tools, our motors, essentially the same providers for the Western Haynesville that we have in the core. Now there's some of our providers up in the core that can't doesn't have the full breadth of tools to be able to work in the Western Haynesville, but the same guys we have working down there working in the core also, same tools. Speaker 800:54:46Got it. And you just mentioned Roland just mentioned, how you produce the Western Haynesville wells and effect that might have on the clients and so forth. I don't know, have you just what are your thoughts? What have you learned so far about choking and how that might influence production rates, shape of the curve, etcetera? Speaker 300:55:10Well, we definitely started off in the Western Haynesville being much more conservative with how we were producing the wells compared to how we produce them in the core. Obviously, we've got years years years of history in the core. We know how we can produce them and how hard we can pull them. But in the Western Haynesville, we're just on the tip of that learning curve. So we started out very conservative, very low drawdowns. Speaker 300:55:33And so we've kind of just we're slowly kind of starting to maybe pulling them just a little bit harder and get a little bit better production rates, they can definitely do it. We just want to watch the draw downs and make sure we don't get ahead of ourselves as far as trying to pull them too hard. But everything looks really good. We're just kind of taking our time in that process. And we produce Speaker 200:55:58the tubing, you might go over that. Speaker 300:56:00Yes. And we do everything that we complete up in the core, we flow up the casing for quite a long time. We don't come back and tube up those wells for in some cases, maybe a couple of years later. But in the Western Haynesville, just because of the very high initial flowing pressures in what the wellhead, what the casing, the burst pressure rating is on our casing strings. We tube those up while we're completing the well. Speaker 300:56:28So the day that they turn to sales, all those wells are flowing up tubing. So it's a little bit different production profile. You get a lot more pressure drop downhole before you reach the surface. So the pressures obviously would be a lot higher if we're flowing up casing the surface pressures. But that's probably the biggest difference as far as downhole. Speaker 300:56:52All the Western Haynesville wells are tubed up, all the core wells flow up casing. Speaker 100:56:57And you're asking about the drilling. If you look at our efficiencies, and Dan is right, I mean, some of the tools in the casing, we do use that in the core, but it's how you use it, What type of intermediate do you set? Do you tube the wells up? What type of completions do you have? What kind of drill pipe do you have. Speaker 100:57:19I mean, there's a lot of ingredients in the kitchen and not everybody produces the same final product. So it's going to be very difficult if you're drilling your first 19,000 foot vertical and 10,000 foot lateral well to come in there and have the success that we've had. When you got a really good operations group and it took them 85 days the first time. Well, now you're at 54 days. So a lot of that skill set, you have to spend a lot of money to perfect that when you can perfect it, then you can lower those costs and you create real wealth. Speaker 100:57:58And you have to have the footprint to do that in. And we captured the footprint at very low cost with most of it being held by production. So that's the difference in this play. Speaker 800:58:13Great. Thanks a lot. Operator00:58:17Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Paul Diamond of Citi. Speaker 900:58:27Hi, good morning. Thanks for taking my call. Speaker 300:58:29Just a quick one, I want to drill down Speaker 900:58:31on the opportunity set across these theoretical Horseshoe wells. In your inventory, you get about, call it, 69% of below 5,000 foot. I'm just trying to understand how much of the how much of those, given current expectations, do you think you might be able to convert and where that would place them kind of in the larger production cadence or drilling cadence? Speaker 300:58:57Yes, it's a really good question. So you're right, we do have about 15% or 16% of our total inventory is the short laterals. And we're actually currently working through that process right now of how many of those we think we can convert over to long laterals. I think the majority of them that we can, I don't really have a real fixed number I can probably give you today? But I'd say the majority of them we're looking at moving over. Speaker 300:59:22And like I said, the only reason that we could not would just be because, I mean, obviously, you have to have 2, you have to have 2 of the 5 ks laterals kind of side by side right to have the horseshoe opportunity. Some of our short sticks in our inventory you just got one stick basically. So obviously that wouldn't be a horseshoe candidate. But other than that, I think every if you got 2 of them side by side, every one of those is a horseshoe candidate. So we're working through that process right now and seeing which one of those we can convert. Speaker 300:59:53They'll go into our long lateral bucket, which right now that's about 26% of our inventory. So we'll significantly boost that up above 25%, 26%. And we'll that short percentage in the short laterals will get a lot lower, which will be great. I mean that opens up a lot more wells that has really good economics that we can basically decide to put on our drill schedule or should we for some reason for a leasehold reason or whatever we kind of need to drill it. It will still fit in with what we normally would be drilling with good economics. Speaker 901:00:34Understood. That actually kind of pertains to my follow-up. Assuming or under current assumption you guys are working with, how would a horseshoe 25000 foot compare economically to an existing 10,000 foot? Speaker 301:00:50So yes, substantial, I don't have the numbers in front of me, but yes, substantial rate of return, substantial improvement. I mean, you're going to save $8,000,000 $4,000,000 per basically off those 5 ks laterals. So it just drives all the key parameters significantly higher. Like I said, the cost. So the cost to drill a straight 10 ks to drill a horseshoe well is essentially the same. Speaker 301:01:18I said a 1% to 3% premium, but that's within the plusminus of any well we drill on kind of where our costs are going to end up. So we look at the economics for Hershey well to be essentially the same as all of our other 10 ks laterals. Speaker 901:01:36Understood. Thanks for the clarity. Operator01:01:40Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Gregg Brody of Bank of America. Speaker 1301:01:49Hey, good afternoon, guys. Speaker 801:01:51Good morning, Gregg. Speaker 1301:01:51Thanks for Speaker 101:01:52all the update. Speaker 1301:01:54As the credit guy, I've started to see these horseshoe wells pop up a few places and I realize there's some data. There's been a number of them in other basins. I'm just curious, there something that we should think about that is tricky about these? Or it really is just showing a lateral in a U shape that seems like physics suggests we can do that now? Speaker 301:02:17Right. Sometimes, the old saying necessity is the mother of invention. I mean, we you know, you drill a 90 degree turn to drill these laterals already, right? So you do the 90 degree turn, you're drilling the laterals. So it's the same tools, it's the same motors that we run. Speaker 301:02:36You just make another turn and you just stay with it until it goes all the way around 180 degrees. Now I think, until you kind of have to do it or you look at your inventory, you're talking about improvement. A lot of people probably just kind of don't push to go there. But really, I mean, look, there is a little bit more risk to drilling a horseshoe well. And you got to get casing around the curve. Speaker 301:03:04You have to get when you're completing and pumping your per freight guns down and plugs for all your frac stages, all of us have to get pumped around the curve. I mean but really, I mean, that's I think the risk of that's pretty small. The industry kind of already has shown it in the Permian and I think the Eagle Ford and these other areas. But I think you just got to prove it out and you just basically got to show people the results. And I think after you do more of them, it becomes a little bit more routine and the risk is greatly diminished. Speaker 101:03:40Well, example on our first well, I mean, we're pretty close to TD in that well. Last night, I know we're Speaker 301:03:46We're probably within 500 foot of TD and we have had zero problems drilling more. Speaker 101:03:51Yes, that's my point. First well, no problems, we're within 500 feet of TD in it. Speaker 1301:03:57And that's when I look at you were being asked earlier about how much potential of your locations could be converted. Should we think that it's just the ones that are in the up to 5,000 feet or is it should we think also about the 5,008 to 8,500 feet that could be converted? Just trying to get a sense of how much of that you didn't quantify it. I know it's early days, but I'm curious if you have a range that you would think about there. Speaker 301:04:26Well, that's a really good question and we've already kind of had some internal discussions about that. Can you take a 7,500 foot lateral and turn it into a 15 ks horseshoe? Now we're not ready to kind of jump out there and do that yet. But look, the industry gets better with time. They get faster. Speaker 301:04:44They get longer. Tools get better. If you have the demand for tools and the demand for certain services, in time they show up and they get developed and they get refined. So I think in time, I think, yes, I think that the industry will maybe go there. I mean, look, a 7,500 foot lateral has a lot better economics than a 5 ks. Speaker 301:05:06So the rush to start doing 15 ks horseshoes is not really going to be there right now. But I do see and it's what your acreage, it's how it's laid out and what your options are. I mean, if you can drill up if you got 2 sections or 3 sections, like we'll typically we'll just drill a 15 ks straight lateral. We're not going to do a bunch of 7,500 foot Horseshoe 15 ks laterals. You know what I mean? Speaker 301:05:35So but it's a very good question. And I think, yes, I think in time in the future, I think there'll probably be some people that will probably try to push the horseshoe lengths a little bit further. They do have a little bit more torque and drag. I mean, obviously, when you're pushing and pulling pipe around the 180 degree bend, it adds more drag, tripping in and out of the hole. So a 10,000 foot horse, you will, it's kind of maybe more like the equivalent of a 15,000 foot straight lateral when you look at the drag going in and out of the hole, if that makes sense. Speaker 1301:06:13That does. And then just to come back to my credit roots, just a few follow ups that are you might get for some credit guys. I don't think you see you getting your 3.4 today. I think you're okay for next quarter to get into 3.5 or not going through the 3.5. Is that fair? Speaker 1301:06:31And if not, is it just a pretty easy amendment that you would get? And then just as part of that, I know the dividend was suspended this year. Just as you look out in the future, how do you think about that today? Speaker 201:06:48Yes, Greg, I think we look obviously the gas prices are if we knew exactly what they were, we could answer the question exactly that the gas prices and where they end up being will be a big driver in the EBITDAX, which is the biggest part of that ratio. And it's also in a kind of a full 4 quarter type calculation as that's in 1 quarter. But we stay pretty close to that level. We do think it's we can get a temporary waiver if we needed it, but we didn't need it. So we didn't go out and get it. Speaker 201:07:26So things kind of came in exactly as we thought they would. We knew we're going to get to that 3.4 percent, but luckily we stayed there. So we'll monitor it in the Q3 as hard as we monitor it in the 2nd quarter. And then the dividend, obviously, I think we're not really talking about a dividend until we kind of get the leverage way down and looking off in the future. So it's much I think our first priority is to get back to generating good free cash flow and then that will be used for some debt reduction to get the leverage ratio back to we'd like to get back to levels that we were seeing back in 2022. Speaker 201:08:13And that we got to under closer to 1 times leverage. Speaker 101:08:16We were really monitoring the Q2. And again, we did stay fine in the Q3. We didn't expect gas to be $1.90 on Monday. So you do look at that price and say, well, okay, so you got to really monitor the Q3. And then in the Q4, we would expect a little price appreciation and the hedges come in and help. Speaker 101:08:37And then after that, I think we're going to have some big production growth. So that's it. We're kind of going through that valley right now. It's a good question. Speaker 1301:08:47I appreciate the time guys and the education. Operator01:08:51Thank you, Greg. Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Jeff Jay of Daniel Energy Partners. Speaker 1401:09:03Hey, guys. Just a real quick Speaker 801:09:05one for me. Earlier, you said Speaker 1401:09:06you thought you see you would expect to see D and T costs go down to something like normal levels. I guess I've kind of forgotten what normal looks like given all the inflation we've seen over the last year Speaker 301:09:17or so. Where do you Speaker 1401:09:18kind of think those will trend given the service cost deflation that's out there and the efficiencies you're achieving? Speaker 201:09:25Well, we think our legacy Haynesville main product will trend back to that little bit below 1500 that 1500, 2014 to 1500 is kind of an area. And I think way we report this is kind of when wells are completed and they but it's not really a good indication of where things are now because some of the wells we completed this quarter were actually finished drilled last year. And so we might be able to come back and add some additional information here and show you here's the real drilling costs being incurred each quarter and here's the completion costs being incurred. They'll be on different wells, but they'd be more indicative of where costs are versus the process here of scoring is costs that were incurred in different periods than the one you're hearing about. So and also if you have a certain group of wells that are different and more costly that happened to be the ones turned to sales, they dominate the numbers. Speaker 201:10:31As the case this quarter, you had these Lake Vista now wells that have a lot of it's a high cost area period and plus you throw some drilling problems in and those wells kind of really distorted what would have been just look pretty comparable to the other quarter if they weren't in there. Speaker 301:10:48We got less wells to average it down. Speaker 201:10:50But yes, we'll probably try to maybe provide some supplemental deal that will allow you to see the current cost in the quarter, how they're trending versus seeing something that occurred maybe even last year. Speaker 301:11:04Excellent. Well, thank you for that. Operator01:11:09Thank you. I would now like to turn the conference back to Jay Allison for closing remarks. Sir? Speaker 101:11:15All right. Thank you again. We've gone over our hour, but as you know the company, we've always had a vision. I think Greg asked about, do you drill these forestry wells that are 7,500 foot times 2, 15,000 feet? And the answer is, we have a vision. Speaker 101:11:31And we had a vision to step out of 100 miles and see if we could rebirth a major gas play, which is now the Western Haynesville. We have a vision and then we always monitor where gas supply is. If you look, we've been looking for the last probably 6 or 7 weeks and the gas storage level was is about 38% above the 5 year average. Well, week after week after week, it's come down. It's like 16% above the 5 year average. Speaker 101:12:02So it's coming the right way. We're coming into the 3, 4, 5 weeks of what we call real to the mid of the summer. So we do see that. We see LNG at over 13 Bs a day right now. So it's back. Speaker 101:12:18Freeport is back. And then we look past September, October and you see the startups at Corpus Stage 3 inflectments. So we see a strong Q4 of 2024 run from the LNG fleet and that goes into 2025. So we are committed to manage. We're committed to sharing everything that we can share in all of our areas and to protect the balance sheet. Speaker 101:12:47And again, I want to compliment the Joneses for writing the $100,000,000 check for the acreage that we've been acquiring. 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There are 15 speakers on the call. Operator00:00:00Thank you for standing by, and welcome to Comstock Resources Second Quarter 2024 Earnings Conference Call. At this time, all participants are in a listen only mode. After the speaker presentation, there will be a question and answer I would now like to hand the call over to Jay Allison, Chairman and CEO. Please go ahead. Speaker 100:00:32Thank you. I want to thank everybody for spending the time with us this morning going over our results. We appreciate your time. Welcome to the Comstock Resources Q2 2024 Financial and Operating Results Conference Call. You can view a slide presentation during or after this call by going to our website at www.comstockresources.com and downloading the quarterly results presentations. Speaker 100:01:00There you'll find a presentation entitled 2nd Quarter 2024 Results. Have Jay Allison, Chief Executive Officer of Comstock and with me is Roland Barnes, our President and Chief Financial Officer Dan Harrison, our Chief Operating Officer and Ron Mills, our VP of Finance and Investor Relations. Please refer to Slide 2 in our presentation to note that the discussions today will include forward looking statements within the meaning of securities laws. While we believe the expectations in such statements should be reasonable, there could be no assurance that such expectations will prove to be correct. Before I start in the formal part of the presentation, I'd like to make a few comments. Speaker 100:01:45As a pure play natural gas producer with 750,000 net acres in the Haynesville Field Basin, which is the best located to serve the growing natural gas demand along the Gulf Coast. The future for the company has never ever been brighter. However, the present challenge is managing through these times with natural gas prices at all time lows on an inflation adjusted basis. So now it's how you manage the present to shine the brightest when the rebound occurs. We have all the tools to accomplish this, including a very experienced management team who has managed in much harder times. Speaker 100:02:30Strong financial liquidity of $1,200,000,000 the industry's lowest cost structure, no bond maturities until 2029 and a very supportive major shareholder with the Jones family who recently directly invested $100,000,000 in the company to support our leasing program. Our 300,000 net acres in a legacy Haynesville still has over 1400 net drilling locations, which represents over 30 years of future drilling. In addition, we have captured 450,000 net acres in our emerging Western Haynesville area that continues to look promising with each new well that we drill. Our operations group, as Dan Harrison will address in a few minutes, is becoming more efficient with each new well drilled and is bringing down our drilling and completion costs in the new play. So even when the quarterly numbers are weaker due to natural gas prices being low, we are more encouraged than ever about the future because we trust our core region as well as our Western Haynesville region and know our task is to execute daily to continue to create wealth by de risking our new play and by reducing well cost in our new play. Speaker 100:04:01We are in broader future for natural gas in more North America for the world that I see today. Now we'll go to Slide 3, the Q2 2024 highlights. On Slide 3, we summarize the highlights for the Q2. Our financial results continue to be heavily impacted by the continued weak natural gas prices as our average realized gas price before hedging was $1.65 for the quarter. With hedging, it was $2.12 As a result, our oil and gas sales, including hedging, were $278,000,000 in the quarter and we generated cash flow from operations of $118,000,000 or $0.41 per share and adjusted EBITDAX was $167,000,000 Our adjusted net loss was $0.20 per share for the quarter. Speaker 100:05:08In the 2nd quarter, we drilled 11 successful operated Haynesville and Bossier Shale horizontal wells in the quarter with an average lateral length of 11,346 feet and we turned to sales 12 successful operated Haynesville and Bossier Shale horizontal wells with an average IP rate of 22,000,000 per day and average lateral length of 8,847 feet. We're continuing to advance our Western Haynesville exploratory play. The Western Haynesville acreage position totals more than 450,000 net acres now. We currently have 12 successful producing wells in our new play, 6 from the Haynesville shale and 6 from the Bossier shale. We recently completed the drilling activity on both 2 well pads in the Western Haynesville play. Speaker 100:06:00With the drilling efficiencies from the pad drilling, reduced the latest well drill times to 54 days. We expect to turn the next 6 Western Haynesville wells to sales around the end of the year, and we currently have 2 rigs running into play today. I'll have Roland go over the Q2 financial results. Roland? Speaker 200:06:21Thanks, Jay. On Slide 4, we cover the Q2 financial results. Our production in the Q2 of 1.4 Bcfe per day increased 4% from the Q2 of 2023. But the very low natural gas prices offset this production increase, which resulted in our oil and gas sales in the quarter of $278,000,000 declining 2% from 2023 second quarter. EBITDAX for the quarter was $167,000,000 and we generated $118,000,000 of cash flow in the quarter. Speaker 200:06:57We reported adjusted net loss of $58,000,000 for the Q2 or $0.20 per share as compared to $1,000,000 of debt income in the Q2 of 2023. The higher DD and A in the quarter, which was attributable to the decline in proved undeveloped reserves, which results from having to use the very low natural gas prices required by the SEC to determine reserves accounted for much of the loss of the quarter. As natural gas prices improve, those proved undivolved reserves will be back on the books and we'll see the DDA rate go back to its lower levels in future quarters. On Slide 5, we cover our year to date financial results. Our production in the 1st 6 months of 2024 at 1.5 Bcfe per day was 6% higher than the 1st 6 months of 2023. Speaker 200:07:53Natural gas and oil sales in the first half of the year were $614,000,000 which was down 9% from 2023's first half despite the increase in production and that's also due to the lower natural gas prices. EBITDAX for the 1st 6 months of the year was $396,000,000 and we generated $300,000,000 of cash flow during the first half of the year. We reported an adjusted net loss of $67,000,000 for the 1st 6 months of the year or $0.24 per share as compared to $93,000,000 of net income for the same period in 2023. On Slide 6, we break down our natural gas price realization in the 2nd quarter. It was a very challenging quarter as our quarterly NYMEX helmet price only averaged $1.89 The average Henry Hub spot price in the quarter was a little bit better at $2.04 Our realized gas price during the Q2 averaged $1.65 reflecting a $0.24 differential to the settlement price and a $0.30 differential to our Speaker 300:08:59reference price. Speaker 200:09:00In the Q2, we were 28% hedged, which improved our realized gas price to $2.12 On Slide 7, we detail our operating costs per Mcfe and our EBITDAX margin. Our operating cost per Mcfe averaged $0.84 in the 2nd quarter, dollars 0.08 higher than the Q1 rate, but the same as our Q2 rate of last year. Production and ad valorem taxes were $0.14 lifting costs were $0.27 gathering costs were $0.38 and our G and A costs were $0.05 in the quarter. Our EBITDAX margin after hedging came in at 61% in the 2nd quarter, down from the 68% margin we had in the 1st quarter due to the even weaker natural gas prices. On Slide 8, we recap our spending on drilling and other development activity during the quarter. Speaker 200:09:52We spent a total of $221,000,000 on development activities in the Q2. Virtually, all of that was spent on our Haynesville and Bossier Shale drilling program. In the 1st 6 months of this year, we drilled 18 or 14 point 9 net horizontal Haynesville wells and 9 or 8.6 net Bossier wells. We turned 30 wells to sales or 27.9 net operated wells and they had an average IP rate of 25,000,000 cubic feet per day. Slide 9 recaps our balance sheet at the end of the second quarter. Speaker 200:10:29We ended the quarter with $325,000,000 of borrowings outstanding under our credit facility, giving us a total of $2,900,000,000 in debt, including our outstanding senior notes. In early April, we issued $400,000,000 of additional notes due in 2029 and used the proceeds to pay down outstanding borrowings under our bank credit facility. On April 30, our bank group reaffirmed our borrowing base at $2,000,000,000 and our elected commitment stayed the same at $1,500,000,000 So at the end of the second quarter, we had $1,200,000,000 of liquidity. I'll now turn the call over to Dan to discuss our operations. Speaker 300:11:13Okay. Thank you, Roland. On slide 10 is our current drilling inventory as it stands at the end of the second quarter. Our total operated inventory now has 1698 gross locations, have 13 100 net locations and this equates to an average 77% average working interest. Our non operated inventory has 12 27 gross locations and 159 net locations, which represents a 13% average working interest across the non operated inventory. Speaker 300:11:49The drilling inventory is split between Haynesville and Bossier locations and we have it split into our 4 different groups with our short laterals that go up to 5,000 foot, our medium laterals run between 5,008,500 foot. Our long laterals from 8,500 feet up to 10,000 feet long and our extra long laterals for those over 10,000 feet. In our gross operated inventory, we currently have 258 short laterals, 352 medium laterals, 4.46 long laterals and 6.42 extra long laterals. The gross operating inventory is split with 52% in the Haynesville and 48% of our locations in the Bossier. 64% of our gross operated inventory have laterals longer than 8,500 feet and 38% of the total gross operated inventory have laterals longer than 10,000 feet. Speaker 300:12:53The average lateral in our inventory now stands at 9,077 feet and this is up slightly from 9,015 feet that we had at the end of the Q1. Our inventory provides us with over 30 years of future drilling locations based on our current 2024 activity. On Slide 11 is a chart outlining our average lateral length drilled based on the wells that we have turned to sales. During the Q2, we turned 12 wells to sales with an average lateral length of 8,847 feet. The individual lengths range from 4,222 feet up to 10,047 feet. Speaker 300:13:36Our record longest lateral still stands at 15,726 feet. 8 of the 12 wells turned to sales during the quarter had laterals longer than 8,500 feet. During the Q2, we did not have any extra long lateral wells that turned to sales. 1 of the 12 wells turned to sales during the Q2 was on our Western Haynesville acreage. This was the Ingram Martin 1H well, which had a lateral length of 7,764 feet and this well was reported on our last call. Speaker 300:14:11Looking ahead, we have several extra long laterals slated to turn to sales over the remainder of the year and we do expect our average lateral length for all of 2024 will be approximately 10,150 feet on a total of 45 wells that will turn to sales. To recap our long lateral activity date, we have drilled a total of 103 wells with laterals longer than 10,000 feet and we drilled 38 wells with laterals over 14,000 feet. Slide 12 outlines our new well activity since we last provided well results in late April. Since our last call, we have 15 new wells that have been turned to sales. The individual IP rates on these wells range from 10,000,000 a day up to 31,000,000 cubic feet a day with the average test rate of 21,000,000 cubic feet per day. Speaker 300:15:09The average lateral length was 9,802 feet with the individual lengths ranging from 4,222 up to 15,303 feet. Recapping our activity, we are continuing to run 5 rigs after dropping 2 rigs in the Q1. For our completions, we have been running 2 frac crews all year since we dropped down from 3 frac crews at the beginning of the year. This month, we also temporarily released 1 of our 2 frac crews for a short 2 month gap until we pick it up again early in Q4. 2 of the 5 rigs are currently drilling in the Western Haynesville. Speaker 300:15:49Both of these rigs recently finished drilling our first two well pads on the acreage and these two well pads will be completed in the Q4 and turn to sales just after the 1st of the year. In the Western Haynes well, we anticipate having a total of 6 wells that will turn to sales from November to just after year end. On Slide 13 is a summary of our D and C costs through the Q2 for our benchmark long lateral wells that are located on our core East Texas and North Louisiana acreage position. This covers all laterals greater than 8,500 feet long. And during the quarter, we turned 11 wells to sales that were on our core East Texas, North Louisiana acreage and 8 of the 11 wells fell into our benchmark long lateral group. Speaker 300:16:40In the 2nd quarter, our D and C cost averaged $17.30 per foot on our 8 benchmark wells, which reflects a 15% increase compared to the Q1. Our 2nd quarter drilling cost averaged $9.36 a foot, which is a 31% increase compared to the Q1. The higher drilling costs for the quarter were associated with our Baker three well pad up in the Lake Bistinoe area, where we encountered significant drilling difficulties. In addition, 4 of our 8 Mitch Mark wells were drilled inside the boundary of a gas storage facility, which requires an additional shallow intermediate casing stream to be set. Our 2nd quarter completion costs came in at $7.94 a foot, and this is a 1% increase compared to the Q1. Speaker 300:17:29We do expect our D and C costs will return to normal levels and remain flat to slightly lower for the next couple of quarters. On Slide 14 is an illustration of a new development we have planned that will utilize the Horseshoe Lateral concept that has recently gained traction in the industry. While the small handful of Horseshoe wells have been drilled in other basins, only one Horseshoe well to date has been drilled in the Haynesville shale basin, which was earlier this year. To test the concept, we recently spud a single horseshoe well in DeSoto Parish, Louisiana that is located on one of our isolated single section acreage blocks. The well is currently drilling. Speaker 300:18:11We should reach TD within the next few days. This technology will allow us to develop acreage in the future that before could only have been developed by drilling short laterals with more challenging economics. The section portrayed on this slide would have originally been developed by drilling 4,000, 5000 foot laterals from 2 pads with a $40,000,000 capital cost. We now plan to develop the section from a single 2 well pad drilling 2 10,000 foot Horseshoe laterals for $32,000,000 in capital. This capital cost represents only a 1% to 2% cost premium to a regular straight 10,000 foot lateral. Speaker 300:18:51The project will deliver 23% in cost savings or $8,000,000 significantly improving the economics and also providing some additional benefits such as reducing our surface footprint and lowering the emissions from fewer wellbores. We expect the well performance from the Horseshoe wells will match that of our regular 10,000 foot laterals. And once this technology becomes more derisked, we can further increase the average lateral length of our inventory by converting short laterals into long laterals and further enhancing our efficiencies. I'll now hand the call back over to Jay to summarize our outlook. Speaker 100:19:29Hi, Dan. Thank you, Roland. Thank you. Dan, you're talking about the horseshoe wells. I'm thinking about the majority owner of the stock is owns the Dallas Cowboys. Speaker 100:19:38Cowboys and horseshoes go together. So thank you for that report. Let's go to Page 15. I direct you to Slide 15, where we summarize our outlook for 2024. As we stated in the last quarter, we really have taken a number of steps in response to the significantly low natural gas prices this year. Speaker 100:20:00During the Q1, we announced that we'd release 2 of our operated drilling rigs. We've reduced our rig count to 5 rigs. We also released 1 of our frac spreads, reducing our frac spreads to 2 spreads. We no longer now have any long term commitments for our pressure pumping services. With those steps, our 2024 CapEx is expected to be down 34% to 41% from the 2023 level. Speaker 100:20:27We suspended our quarterly dividend that saved about 140,000,000 dollars a year in dividend payments. In late March, majority stakeholder, Jerry Jones, invested an additional $100,500,000 into the company through an equity placement that the company has. Starting in late February, we did add significantly to our hedge position starting in the Q4 of 2024 and extending that through the year end 2026. We're targeting a hedge level of 50% of our expected production level through those years. In early April, we further enhanced our liquidity position with a $400,000,000 senior notes offering, and we continue to maintain a very strong financial liquidity, which totaled just under $1,200,000,000 at the end of the second quarter. Speaker 100:21:16Our industry leading lowest cost structure is an asset in the current low natural gas price environment as our cost structure is substantially lower than the other public natural gas producers. We remain very, very focused on proving up our Western Haynesville play and continuing to add to our extensive acreage position in this exciting play. Our Western Haynesville acreage position totals over 450,000 net acres to date. We believe that we're building a great asset in a Western Angel that will be well positioned to benefit from the substantial growth in demand for natural gas in our region that is on the horizon, driven by the growth in LNG exports that began to show up in the second half of next year. I'll now turn it over to Ron to provide specifics for the rest of the year. Speaker 100:22:08Ron? Speaker 400:22:09Thanks Jay. On Slide 16, we provide financial guidance for the Q3 and the remainder of 2024. For the Q3, we expect our D and C CapEx to range between $135,000,000 $185,000,000 and our full year D and C guidance range on CapEx remains $750,000,000 to $850,000,000 The midstream capital outlook remains unchanged and the leasing capital for the 3rd Q4 remains in the $2,000,000 to $5,000,000 range. The full year moved up $5,000,000 to $10,000,000 just due to actual second quarter leasing costs. LOE and GTC costs both for the 3rd quarter and fourth and full year remain unchanged from prior levels. Speaker 400:22:59On the production in Evermore, the guidance range remains the same, which includes the impact of a lower severance tax rate in Louisiana basically being offset by a higher ad valorem rate. The DD and A rate as mentioned by Roland earlier is expected to be higher through the remainder of the year due to the current low prices. Looking ahead though, we would anticipate that to return to our more normal level in the kind of price environment that we see in 2025. No other changes to our G and A or interest outlook that we provided in prior quarters and we continue to anticipate deferring virtually 100% of our deferred taxes. With that, I'll turn the call over to the operator for Q and A. Operator00:23:56Thank Our first question comes from the line of Carlos Escalante of Wolfe Research. Speaker 500:24:34Hey, good morning, gentlemen. Thank you for taking my question. Speaker 100:24:38Good morning. Speaker 500:24:41If I go good morning. If I go if I use the second quarter completed wells as a proxy for your drilling pace on wells under 5,000 feet, I'm getting a number that is roughly less than 10% per quarter. Bearing in mind your Horseshoe concept update, how do you all see the allocation towards a potentially successful program going into the future quarters and future years? Speaker 300:25:15So this is Dan. I'll kind of address just the short laterals. Did have one short lateral that we reported here. We had basically really already kind of had drilled that well when we were having when we had our last call. But I think with the success of the Horseshoe concept, I think really the majority of all the wells short wells that we have in our inventory will convert to long laterals. Speaker 300:25:40But there will be a few where we've just got maybe one short lateral left and that's all that's left to be drilled and it's bounded by other wells where if you do if you didn't decide to drill that's you have to drill a short lateral. So we won't be able to convert all of them to 10 ks horseshoe wells, but I think a good chunk of the inventory will be able to convert to 10 ks. Speaker 500:26:04Wonderful. And then if I and my follow-up real quick on that same topic. I think that the fact that it's less than 10% that you're drilling at that specific land sort of emphasizes why market may be able or may be reticent to recognize that inventory when you say 25 years to 30 years of inventory. So on that same topic, Dan, what's the end goal here? Is it more of a recognition of what the risk may be on the concept? Speaker 500:26:36Or is this the first one for many to come? Speaker 300:26:40I think this is the first of many to come. And just like with anything that new, I think the public wants to see more of them drill. They want to see it become routine. They want to see it derisked. So I think they they're probably a little bit further into that process in the other basins. Speaker 300:26:57I think really mainly the Permian and I think a few in the Eagle Ford or the Horseshoe wells. There was one drilled earlier this year that was and it was problem free. So we and like I said, we're almost at TD on the one that we're drilling and it's been problem free to date. So we feel really good about it. I think we feel really good about significantly reducing the short laterals in our inventory. Speaker 300:27:22We'll have more 10ks or average lateral length to be up. It will our efficiencies will be way up. So we just need to do more where it becomes routine and to take some of the risk out. Speaker 100:27:36Well, like Dan said, if you save $8,000,000 when you drill these wells, a couple of them, that does add to our inventory because some of these wells we push back to the latter part of our drilling inventory. But now if you have these cost savings, you can bring them forward if you need to drill them. Speaker 300:27:52Right. And some of these we've drilled because they we've had them for a while and some of the production gets less. So we just to protect our leasehold is why we'll put some of these on our drilling schedule. Speaker 500:28:08Wonderful. Thank you, gentlemen. Speaker 300:28:10Thank you. Thank you. Operator00:28:17Our next question comes from the line of Jacob Roberts of TTH and Company. Speaker 100:28:24Good morning. Good morning. Operator00:28:28I wanted to dig in a bit more on the Baker Wells and some of the IP rates? Is there any impact to the EUR we might expect? And does this mean that region is something that might need to be avoided in the future? Speaker 300:28:47Well, it's certainly out on the edge of our acreage footprint. That is we do know from past drilling up in that area that the wellbore's stability is a little bit more the rock itself just has a little bit more instability. And so really we had normally that area up there typically drills the drilling cost is a little bit more expensive, maybe $16.50 to $1700 if that's kind of normal, whereas back over in Texas in the state line area, we're in that $14.50 to $1500 a foot. But so we had we drilled 5 wells. 2 of the wells were the ones that really gave us problems. Speaker 300:29:30We ended up had 1 well drilled to TD. We lost the lateral. We tried to sidetrack it. We ended up having to sidetrack it twice to get it drilled and then we basically had another well that we had to sidetracks on. So one very pleasant experience, but it's definitely an outlier. Speaker 300:29:45If you look at just kind of where all our acreage is, it's out on the edge. We knew that area was kind of tough to drill. So it's just a one time event. And it was we drilled it because the acreage was expiring. We had to drill it or lose it. Speaker 300:30:01And so we did decide to do full development and drill 5 wells all the way across the section. So we that's just a one time event. I think if you do pull that out, we're back around that $1500 a foot total D and C cost for this quarter, which is where we'll be at for Q3 and Q4. Operator00:30:23Okay, great. I appreciate that. My second question, so the 2, 2 well pad, it sounds like the drilling has wrapped up. We appreciate the update on the days to drill, but can you give us a sense of where cost per foot is sitting on the drilling side of things now that you're done? Speaker 300:30:42Yes. So actually we see costs going down a little bit. We actually started seeing a big movement in pipe prices just here in the last couple of months. We're working through inventory that we already have, but I think by the time we get to wells that turn to sales in Q1 that we're completing right at the end of Q4. We're seeing some significant savings on pipe cost. Speaker 300:31:04And so we'll definitely should see our D and C cost basically come down Q3 and really further into Q4 and Q1. Operator00:31:15Great. Appreciate the time, guys. Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Charles Meade of Johnson Speaker 600:31:29Rice. Good morning, Jay, Roland, Dan and Ron. Speaker 200:31:34Hey, Charles. Hi, Charles. Speaker 600:31:38I wanted to ask a question. Dan, I think you partially answered this in your prepared remarks, but I just want to make sure heard it right, maybe get an elaboration. When I was looking at your 3Q CapEx, it was it's both down versus 2Q, but it's also a pretty wide range on the upper and lower bound, at least it seems that way to me. And so, Dan, I think I heard you say in your prepared comments that you recently dropped one of your 2 frac crews. You're going to let it you're just going to be running 1 crew for August or September. Speaker 600:32:13It sounds like you're going to pick it up again. Is that did I hear that right? Is that the driver of the CapEx decline in 3Q? And what other pieces are there that maybe contribute to a wide range? Speaker 300:32:26Well, I think there's there it's not totally that, but that's the kind of significant driver. And that's just kind of a reflection of drop in the rigs earlier in the year. I mean, obviously, we got less wells to complete. We went from 3 to 2, I think, basically right at the 1st of the year. We've been running 2 all year. Speaker 300:32:43We just gapped this 1 frac crew probably a couple of weeks ago. We're slated to pick it up around like the 1st week of October. So but we also just like I mentioned earlier, we see the cost coming down. The pipe prices were coming down significantly finally. That's kind of one of the last pieces where we've seen the prices come down. Speaker 300:33:04We've already seen the rig costs come down a little bit, the frac costs come down a little bit earlier this year. So just overall, the cost of services coming down coupled with that 1 frac crew being gone for 2 out of the 3 months for Q3 is the driver on CapEx. Speaker 600:33:23Got it. That is helpful detail. And then the question about the drilling times in the Western Haynesville. So, you guys highlighted the 54 days. Can you put that in some bigger context of where your early wells fell on how many days it took to drill? Speaker 600:33:43And also what you think is a reasonable goal for days to drill in the next 12 or 18 months? Speaker 300:33:50Yes, I think so we've made great progress on our drilling days to TD and the Western Haynesville. We now the wells have been different lengths, so that kind of comes into place on the number of days, especially in the Western Haynesville with the higher temperatures. But we generally were around like that 85 day mark when we started. And we've shaved it down to these last couple of wells on these 2 well pads were 54 and 56 days. So that's pretty significant. Speaker 300:34:24And I think there's still some running room there. We're still got some efficiencies. We look to gain drilling in the laterals. So I think we can move that number down Speaker 200:34:33a little bit. You might add that those with the low number of days was with those were long laterals, correct? Speaker 300:34:40Yes. And those were both I think one of them we had one was a 10,000 foot lateral, one was just under 11,000 foot lateral. So and those are both in the Haynesville with the higher temperatures. So I mean that's kind of the everything we drill today that's temperatures. So yes, we've made a big improvement there. Speaker 300:35:11And like I said, we still are working on a few things to work those numbers down a little bit lower. Speaker 100:35:16Charles, from the first Speaker 300:35:17well to Speaker 100:35:18the 16th well, you go from 85 days to 54 days. That's 31 days you save. That's a whole month's drilling, even if you use 26, 27. That means that the wells that we're drilling now, I mean, we've saved half the time. If it's 54 days, I mean, we've already shaved off 26, 7 days. Speaker 100:35:43So these wells, you'll probably end up drilling another well per year because of our drilling efficiencies with the same number of rigs, it could equate to that. That is huge savings. And your questions are on cost savings. 31 days of drilling with these deeper, hotter wells, that's a lot of money. Speaker 600:36:04Got it. Thank you. That's helpful context, Jay and Dan. Speaker 300:36:08You bet. Thanks, Charles. Operator00:36:12Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Bertrand Dunn of Truist. Speaker 700:36:19Hey, good morning guys. Just staying on the Horseshoe wells, the example you give looks very promising on the cost side. I know it's early, but are there any expectations on the productivity of these wells? Do you get the full amount that you would have gotten from the 2 shorter laterals? Or do you kind of lose like 5% of the recoveries? Speaker 700:36:38And how does the shape of that well look like? Is it a lower pro form a IP than maybe the 2 combined wells, but a lower decline or any thoughts there? Speaker 300:36:48Yes, it's a really good question. So we definitely expect the performance to be the same as the 10 ks well. The only really mild difference between a horseshoe well and a 10,000 foot across two sections of straight lateral is on the straight lateral, you do get complete across the section line, that 6 60 foot. There's a the state you can't perforate within 3 30 foot of the lease line. So on a horseshoe well, you basically got 2, 4,600 foot sections, 9,200 foot. Speaker 300:37:20We're on a 10 ks, so on a straight 10 ks, you get to perforate a little bit more as far as the amount that's completed across the 10 ks. So but on a per unit basis, we expect the performance to be totally the same. Speaker 700:37:37That's great color. Thanks. And then shifting gears, on the private side of the Haynesville, we can see some of the data on our side. It looks like there's been some drops on the rig side throughout the year, but over the last 4 months or so, it's been kind of stable. I'm just wondering if you have a temperature check maybe on the private operators in your discussions with them. Speaker 700:37:57Do you get the impression that they've already settled into a steady program or are they also looking at the strip right now and actively debating maybe dropping some activity? Speaker 200:38:07Well, we don't we really don't have that lot of insight other than kind of knowing how we coordinate our schedules with the other operators. But I think the private operators cut rigs back very dramatically and they're kind of kept that same rate. So we haven't seen any increase in activity that's on the horizon. I think they're waiting to really see when gas prices kind of justify that. And so the higher rig count has been on the public side mainly with the Southwestern. Speaker 200:38:43Yes. I think Other than that, everybody else but them has dropped a lot Speaker 800:38:46of rigs. Speaker 300:38:47Yes. I agree with Roland. I think you'll basically everything you'll kind of stay status quo until everybody sees these gas prices move up. Speaker 100:38:56Well, and if you look at the core, that 9,000 square miles, what they call the core, when you drill a well there, either Beaujoir Haynes where you got a 40% decline in the 1st year. So you need to be real careful about drilling in a $1.90 gas price, whereas in like in the Western Haynesville, we hadn't seen that type of decline. So that would be another reason whether you're private or public that you don't aggressively drill these wells. Speaker 700:39:21That's great point. Thanks guys. Operator00:39:26Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Kevin McCurdy of Pickering Energy Partners. Speaker 700:39:38Hey, good morning guys. I wanted Speaker 900:39:40to ask about activity toggles. Now that the debt covenant is a little less of concern, just given the state of gas prices, is there any situation which would result in the frac holiday extending into 4Q? Or are there any other changes you would consider this year to activity levels? Speaker 300:39:59I think we're I think the frac holiday is I think we've pretty much got it set. I don't really see it extending further into Q4. Just based on what we know today and where we see prices going. And so I mean really kind of a short answer there, but I think our schedule we kind of look at it pretty set. Speaker 200:40:20We look at it all the time. So we can obviously pull those levers if we see that, you still see the gas prices improving as you get to the very end of the year. And so to have so I think unless kind of 25 changes and dramatically I think that's kind of what would drive our activity level in the Q4. Right. Speaker 300:40:44And we're not contractually obligated obviously with frac crews. So I mean we could definitely get things that would really change. I mean obviously we can change with it. Speaker 100:40:55And fortunately in the Q4 we do hit our swap position where we're hedged 50% at the 3.50%. So that's something that if prices do continue to deteriorate, we will at least end up in that quarter. And then we have I think we've adequately hedged 'twenty five, 'twenty six so far with 35 percent of our production hedged at the 3.50 plus range. And as we said in the opening, our goal is to hedge at least 50% of all of the 25, 26 production. So we are getting out of the 20 plus percent hedge environment into the 50% environment. Speaker 900:41:38Thanks for that. That's helpful. And just wanted to ask, did any Speaker 100:41:42of the 2Q weather impacts go into the Q3? Or did Speaker 900:41:45you guys see any impacts from the hurricane? Speaker 300:41:50We did have impacts from the hurricane. Basically, Hurricane Beryl, yes, when it moved up into the we didn't have any impacts in our Western Haynesville area, but when it moved up into our core area, there were just a it really spawned a ton of tornadoes and really the thing that hurts us is not necessarily our operations, but all the treating third party treating facilities that we flow to, basically, they go down on lost power. So it really does really hurts our production. We're just kind of at their mercy. And we did have that for approximately a week to 10 days Speaker 400:42:27in July. And that impact is incorporated in the Q3 guidance. Yes, correct. Speaker 900:42:34Appreciate it. Thank you. Operator00:42:38Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Leo Mariani of Roth. Speaker 1000:42:46Yes, guys. Wanted to just dig in a little bit more into kind of expectations heading into the 4th quarter. I think you guys have previously talked about 4th quarter production being down around 10% year over year. I know a couple of wells kind of slipped into January potentially. So wanted to see if that's still roughly valid. Speaker 1000:43:08And then with respect to Q4 CapEx, looks like that's getting ready to maybe move a little higher as the frac crew comes back. Just trying to get a sense, should 4Q CapEx look more like Q2 of 'twenty four CapEx? Speaker 400:43:23So good questions. There's no change on that in terms of the Q4 of 2024 versus Q4 of 2023. It looks like it can be down about 10%. And as we've talked about, that's a function of the timing of dropping those 2 rigs in February March and kind of that 6 to 9 month lag between dropping activity and seeing it show up in production. And then you're absolutely right. Speaker 400:43:50The CapEx level in the Q4 will return more to the level you that you mentioned. A lot of that is a function of what we've discussed earlier with the frac holiday all occurring in the Q3. That's why the Q3 and Q4 are so different in terms of CapEx levels. Speaker 200:44:12Well, in the Western Canada, but really the really no wells coming on in the second half of the year for the most part. And then a lot of production coming on in the Western Haynesville right around the end of the year. Maybe a few wells are on right before that and a lot in early January. But we actually like the way that lines up with the gas market and all that. Speaker 100:44:40Yes, Leo, that's a hope to pile the 2 D analysis. Those are the wells we drill on the pads, the 2 per pad and then the Hodges and the Miles. That's the wells really the last week of December maybe or the 1st week of January 2025. That's when we've modeled it to come in. Speaker 1000:45:01Okay. That's very helpful color. And then I know obviously, 2025, a little early here for that today, but just trying to get a sense, I mean, looking at strip prices for next year, kind of 3.25% to 3.30% currently. As you look out, is that the right level that you think for Comstock to kind of get back to where it was and add a couple of rigs to kind of get back to 7 rigs? Is that kind of how you're thinking about it here today is to kind of bring those rigs back kind of way next year? Speaker 200:45:32Yes. That price level is obviously is definitely works well for Comstock. And it's still early. Like I said, we don't really set our activity for next year until we get more into the Q4 and then November, even December and make those decisions. But I mean, yes, we do like the way that what the futures market has out there. Speaker 200:45:57We'll just see if that materializes and then having a stronger hedge position will also help support that program in 2025 than what we had coming into 2024. Speaker 800:46:11Okay. Thanks, guys. Speaker 100:46:14Thanks, Leo. Operator00:46:16Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Neil Mehta of Goldman Sachs. Speaker 1100:46:26Yes. Good morning, team. Thanks for taking the time. Two questions. The first was just your perspective on the A and D market. Speaker 1100:46:34And how do you think about both acquisitions or potential proceeds from divestitures as we make our way over the course of the next year? Are there opportunities to optimize on a smaller scale or even medium to larger term larger size bolt Speaker 100:46:52We all I mean, we have incoming opportunities all the time. We look at all of them. And some of them, we react to and go forward in like acquiring the acreage that we did the last quarter. But our real focus is right now is to end the outspend and get our production going up, not going down. So we need to take care of that. Speaker 100:47:20Our inbound calls that we have, they're mainly data centers that want to do business with us. They're utilities. They're storage. They're more acreage, a little bit of acreage to clean up what we haven't leased. And Ron has budgeted for that. Speaker 100:47:35So as like we said in the very beginning, our goal is if the M and A market is about inventory, inventory, inventory, our goal is that with the 450,000 plus net acres in Western Haynesville, we should have incredible inventory adds that goes with the 1400 locations that we have in our core. That's really our goal. Our goal is like a Dan Harrison focus and that's operations. You test your geological group and we tested that group for 4 years. We've had successful wells and with success, we've added new acreage and each of the wells seems to be a little bit better. Speaker 100:48:20They're a little different, but it seem to be a little better. And the question that was asked earlier, if you can drill these wells in 54 days, well, now if you drill 2 of those wells in 50 4 days, you almost add a third well compared to the 85 days we used to drill these in. So that's efficiencies in numbers, saves you a lot of money. Like every 2 wells in the old day, now you get a third well for the same amount of money. That's the efficiencies that we see. Speaker 100:48:52So if we continue to prove up the geology, continue to test the seismic that we have in the area and the wells continue to perform like they have and clean up like they have, I think our goal is just to prove that we created great wealth when the market comes to us with this great gas demand for power generation and LNG and industrial demand. That's our focus. We've spent a lot of money putting together this world class footprint in the Western Haynesville and now we just want to derisk it well by well. We're not on a big M and A binge at all. Speaker 1100:49:40Yes, that's great perspective. And then the follow-up is just one question we get asked a lot is sort of the breakevens of the Western Haynesville. When you think of your cost of supply to earn a cost of capital return fully burdened for G and A and interest and all the ancillary, What is that breakeven in your mind for Henry Hub equivalent? Speaker 200:50:08Well, of course, it's evolving in the Western Haynesville as we're continuing to work down the drilling and completion costs. But kind of where we see the cost be in with efficient program that we'll have next year with 4 rigs and kind of with the pad drilling that makes puts it more starts to get it more on par with our traditional Haynesville. We actually the two areas are going to be very similar as far as internal rate of return and cost per reserves found. I mean, the difference is we have a lot more money in a Western Haynesville well, but we have a lot more reserves. I mean the reserves are double. Speaker 200:50:51So it's a different type of play. The declines are different. So there's we're still trying to figure out what how to produce the Western Haynesville wells. And so there's a difference there that you get probably a little bit more production out of a traditional Haynesville well in the 1st 6 months. But then the 2nd 6 months, you'll get a lot more production out of a Western Haynesville well because the way we're producing them with a much tighter choke. Speaker 200:51:22But in the end, they're very comparable. And as far as returns, especially where we see the cost getting to now that we're kind of getting into a more development stage. So and we're very pleased with that. Speaker 100:51:38And I think to add on to that, if you look at this inventory depletion, which will happen, you run out of Tier 1s, you go to Tier 2s. So the bang for the buck is not quite there in Tier 2 or 3 because you run out of Tier 1s. So if our Western Haynesville is compared to Tier 1 and we have all this acreage and we derisk it, our inventory is going to be materially stronger than you would have if you did a big M and A. M and A is just acquired more in the same area. Speaker 1100:52:13Thanks, team. Operator00:52:16Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Phillips Johnston of Capital One Securities. Speaker 1000:52:27Hey, thanks for taking Speaker 1200:52:28the question. It's really a follow-up to Leo's question. The $25,000,000 plan is obviously very much TBD, but if you do stay at 5 rigs for the balance of the year and you bring that back in Q4, as you look out into the first few months of next year, just from a momentum perspective, would you expect your volumes to be directionally flat, up or down versus Q4 levels? Speaker 200:52:56That will be up with those Western Haynesville wells coming on. Yes. Speaker 300:53:01Okay. That's all. Thanks, Roland. Speaker 100:53:06Thanks, Philip. Operator00:53:08Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Noel Parks of Toy Brothers Investment Research. Speaker 800:53:22Hey, it's Noel. Good to talk to you. Just had a couple I wanted to run by. So in terms of the Western Haynesville with the greater depth and the heat and pressure and so forth, I was wondering if you could talk a bit about where things stand with the instruments and tools that I understand had had some adaptation to be able to work at those levels. Just where are you? Speaker 800:53:49Is any of that you're doing proprietary? Anything new that you're going to be implementing in the next slate of wells? Speaker 300:54:01This is Dan. So we basically use the same tools in the Western Haynesville that we use in the core. We basically how we apply them is a little bit differently. But as far as our MWD tools, our motors, essentially the same providers for the Western Haynesville that we have in the core. Now there's some of our providers up in the core that can't doesn't have the full breadth of tools to be able to work in the Western Haynesville, but the same guys we have working down there working in the core also, same tools. Speaker 800:54:46Got it. And you just mentioned Roland just mentioned, how you produce the Western Haynesville wells and effect that might have on the clients and so forth. I don't know, have you just what are your thoughts? What have you learned so far about choking and how that might influence production rates, shape of the curve, etcetera? Speaker 300:55:10Well, we definitely started off in the Western Haynesville being much more conservative with how we were producing the wells compared to how we produce them in the core. Obviously, we've got years years years of history in the core. We know how we can produce them and how hard we can pull them. But in the Western Haynesville, we're just on the tip of that learning curve. So we started out very conservative, very low drawdowns. Speaker 300:55:33And so we've kind of just we're slowly kind of starting to maybe pulling them just a little bit harder and get a little bit better production rates, they can definitely do it. We just want to watch the draw downs and make sure we don't get ahead of ourselves as far as trying to pull them too hard. But everything looks really good. We're just kind of taking our time in that process. And we produce Speaker 200:55:58the tubing, you might go over that. Speaker 300:56:00Yes. And we do everything that we complete up in the core, we flow up the casing for quite a long time. We don't come back and tube up those wells for in some cases, maybe a couple of years later. But in the Western Haynesville, just because of the very high initial flowing pressures in what the wellhead, what the casing, the burst pressure rating is on our casing strings. We tube those up while we're completing the well. Speaker 300:56:28So the day that they turn to sales, all those wells are flowing up tubing. So it's a little bit different production profile. You get a lot more pressure drop downhole before you reach the surface. So the pressures obviously would be a lot higher if we're flowing up casing the surface pressures. But that's probably the biggest difference as far as downhole. Speaker 300:56:52All the Western Haynesville wells are tubed up, all the core wells flow up casing. Speaker 100:56:57And you're asking about the drilling. If you look at our efficiencies, and Dan is right, I mean, some of the tools in the casing, we do use that in the core, but it's how you use it, What type of intermediate do you set? Do you tube the wells up? What type of completions do you have? What kind of drill pipe do you have. Speaker 100:57:19I mean, there's a lot of ingredients in the kitchen and not everybody produces the same final product. So it's going to be very difficult if you're drilling your first 19,000 foot vertical and 10,000 foot lateral well to come in there and have the success that we've had. When you got a really good operations group and it took them 85 days the first time. Well, now you're at 54 days. So a lot of that skill set, you have to spend a lot of money to perfect that when you can perfect it, then you can lower those costs and you create real wealth. Speaker 100:57:58And you have to have the footprint to do that in. And we captured the footprint at very low cost with most of it being held by production. So that's the difference in this play. Speaker 800:58:13Great. Thanks a lot. Operator00:58:17Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Paul Diamond of Citi. Speaker 900:58:27Hi, good morning. Thanks for taking my call. Speaker 300:58:29Just a quick one, I want to drill down Speaker 900:58:31on the opportunity set across these theoretical Horseshoe wells. In your inventory, you get about, call it, 69% of below 5,000 foot. I'm just trying to understand how much of the how much of those, given current expectations, do you think you might be able to convert and where that would place them kind of in the larger production cadence or drilling cadence? Speaker 300:58:57Yes, it's a really good question. So you're right, we do have about 15% or 16% of our total inventory is the short laterals. And we're actually currently working through that process right now of how many of those we think we can convert over to long laterals. I think the majority of them that we can, I don't really have a real fixed number I can probably give you today? But I'd say the majority of them we're looking at moving over. Speaker 300:59:22And like I said, the only reason that we could not would just be because, I mean, obviously, you have to have 2, you have to have 2 of the 5 ks laterals kind of side by side right to have the horseshoe opportunity. Some of our short sticks in our inventory you just got one stick basically. So obviously that wouldn't be a horseshoe candidate. But other than that, I think every if you got 2 of them side by side, every one of those is a horseshoe candidate. So we're working through that process right now and seeing which one of those we can convert. Speaker 300:59:53They'll go into our long lateral bucket, which right now that's about 26% of our inventory. So we'll significantly boost that up above 25%, 26%. And we'll that short percentage in the short laterals will get a lot lower, which will be great. I mean that opens up a lot more wells that has really good economics that we can basically decide to put on our drill schedule or should we for some reason for a leasehold reason or whatever we kind of need to drill it. It will still fit in with what we normally would be drilling with good economics. Speaker 901:00:34Understood. That actually kind of pertains to my follow-up. Assuming or under current assumption you guys are working with, how would a horseshoe 25000 foot compare economically to an existing 10,000 foot? Speaker 301:00:50So yes, substantial, I don't have the numbers in front of me, but yes, substantial rate of return, substantial improvement. I mean, you're going to save $8,000,000 $4,000,000 per basically off those 5 ks laterals. So it just drives all the key parameters significantly higher. Like I said, the cost. So the cost to drill a straight 10 ks to drill a horseshoe well is essentially the same. Speaker 301:01:18I said a 1% to 3% premium, but that's within the plusminus of any well we drill on kind of where our costs are going to end up. So we look at the economics for Hershey well to be essentially the same as all of our other 10 ks laterals. Speaker 901:01:36Understood. Thanks for the clarity. Operator01:01:40Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Gregg Brody of Bank of America. Speaker 1301:01:49Hey, good afternoon, guys. Speaker 801:01:51Good morning, Gregg. Speaker 1301:01:51Thanks for Speaker 101:01:52all the update. Speaker 1301:01:54As the credit guy, I've started to see these horseshoe wells pop up a few places and I realize there's some data. There's been a number of them in other basins. I'm just curious, there something that we should think about that is tricky about these? Or it really is just showing a lateral in a U shape that seems like physics suggests we can do that now? Speaker 301:02:17Right. Sometimes, the old saying necessity is the mother of invention. I mean, we you know, you drill a 90 degree turn to drill these laterals already, right? So you do the 90 degree turn, you're drilling the laterals. So it's the same tools, it's the same motors that we run. Speaker 301:02:36You just make another turn and you just stay with it until it goes all the way around 180 degrees. Now I think, until you kind of have to do it or you look at your inventory, you're talking about improvement. A lot of people probably just kind of don't push to go there. But really, I mean, look, there is a little bit more risk to drilling a horseshoe well. And you got to get casing around the curve. Speaker 301:03:04You have to get when you're completing and pumping your per freight guns down and plugs for all your frac stages, all of us have to get pumped around the curve. I mean but really, I mean, that's I think the risk of that's pretty small. The industry kind of already has shown it in the Permian and I think the Eagle Ford and these other areas. But I think you just got to prove it out and you just basically got to show people the results. And I think after you do more of them, it becomes a little bit more routine and the risk is greatly diminished. Speaker 101:03:40Well, example on our first well, I mean, we're pretty close to TD in that well. Last night, I know we're Speaker 301:03:46We're probably within 500 foot of TD and we have had zero problems drilling more. Speaker 101:03:51Yes, that's my point. First well, no problems, we're within 500 feet of TD in it. Speaker 1301:03:57And that's when I look at you were being asked earlier about how much potential of your locations could be converted. Should we think that it's just the ones that are in the up to 5,000 feet or is it should we think also about the 5,008 to 8,500 feet that could be converted? Just trying to get a sense of how much of that you didn't quantify it. I know it's early days, but I'm curious if you have a range that you would think about there. Speaker 301:04:26Well, that's a really good question and we've already kind of had some internal discussions about that. Can you take a 7,500 foot lateral and turn it into a 15 ks horseshoe? Now we're not ready to kind of jump out there and do that yet. But look, the industry gets better with time. They get faster. Speaker 301:04:44They get longer. Tools get better. If you have the demand for tools and the demand for certain services, in time they show up and they get developed and they get refined. So I think in time, I think, yes, I think that the industry will maybe go there. I mean, look, a 7,500 foot lateral has a lot better economics than a 5 ks. Speaker 301:05:06So the rush to start doing 15 ks horseshoes is not really going to be there right now. But I do see and it's what your acreage, it's how it's laid out and what your options are. I mean, if you can drill up if you got 2 sections or 3 sections, like we'll typically we'll just drill a 15 ks straight lateral. We're not going to do a bunch of 7,500 foot Horseshoe 15 ks laterals. You know what I mean? Speaker 301:05:35So but it's a very good question. And I think, yes, I think in time in the future, I think there'll probably be some people that will probably try to push the horseshoe lengths a little bit further. They do have a little bit more torque and drag. I mean, obviously, when you're pushing and pulling pipe around the 180 degree bend, it adds more drag, tripping in and out of the hole. So a 10,000 foot horse, you will, it's kind of maybe more like the equivalent of a 15,000 foot straight lateral when you look at the drag going in and out of the hole, if that makes sense. Speaker 1301:06:13That does. And then just to come back to my credit roots, just a few follow ups that are you might get for some credit guys. I don't think you see you getting your 3.4 today. I think you're okay for next quarter to get into 3.5 or not going through the 3.5. Is that fair? Speaker 1301:06:31And if not, is it just a pretty easy amendment that you would get? And then just as part of that, I know the dividend was suspended this year. Just as you look out in the future, how do you think about that today? Speaker 201:06:48Yes, Greg, I think we look obviously the gas prices are if we knew exactly what they were, we could answer the question exactly that the gas prices and where they end up being will be a big driver in the EBITDAX, which is the biggest part of that ratio. And it's also in a kind of a full 4 quarter type calculation as that's in 1 quarter. But we stay pretty close to that level. We do think it's we can get a temporary waiver if we needed it, but we didn't need it. So we didn't go out and get it. Speaker 201:07:26So things kind of came in exactly as we thought they would. We knew we're going to get to that 3.4 percent, but luckily we stayed there. So we'll monitor it in the Q3 as hard as we monitor it in the 2nd quarter. And then the dividend, obviously, I think we're not really talking about a dividend until we kind of get the leverage way down and looking off in the future. So it's much I think our first priority is to get back to generating good free cash flow and then that will be used for some debt reduction to get the leverage ratio back to we'd like to get back to levels that we were seeing back in 2022. Speaker 201:08:13And that we got to under closer to 1 times leverage. Speaker 101:08:16We were really monitoring the Q2. And again, we did stay fine in the Q3. We didn't expect gas to be $1.90 on Monday. So you do look at that price and say, well, okay, so you got to really monitor the Q3. And then in the Q4, we would expect a little price appreciation and the hedges come in and help. Speaker 101:08:37And then after that, I think we're going to have some big production growth. So that's it. We're kind of going through that valley right now. It's a good question. Speaker 1301:08:47I appreciate the time guys and the education. Operator01:08:51Thank you, Greg. Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Jeff Jay of Daniel Energy Partners. Speaker 1401:09:03Hey, guys. Just a real quick Speaker 801:09:05one for me. Earlier, you said Speaker 1401:09:06you thought you see you would expect to see D and T costs go down to something like normal levels. I guess I've kind of forgotten what normal looks like given all the inflation we've seen over the last year Speaker 301:09:17or so. Where do you Speaker 1401:09:18kind of think those will trend given the service cost deflation that's out there and the efficiencies you're achieving? Speaker 201:09:25Well, we think our legacy Haynesville main product will trend back to that little bit below 1500 that 1500, 2014 to 1500 is kind of an area. And I think way we report this is kind of when wells are completed and they but it's not really a good indication of where things are now because some of the wells we completed this quarter were actually finished drilled last year. And so we might be able to come back and add some additional information here and show you here's the real drilling costs being incurred each quarter and here's the completion costs being incurred. They'll be on different wells, but they'd be more indicative of where costs are versus the process here of scoring is costs that were incurred in different periods than the one you're hearing about. So and also if you have a certain group of wells that are different and more costly that happened to be the ones turned to sales, they dominate the numbers. Speaker 201:10:31As the case this quarter, you had these Lake Vista now wells that have a lot of it's a high cost area period and plus you throw some drilling problems in and those wells kind of really distorted what would have been just look pretty comparable to the other quarter if they weren't in there. Speaker 301:10:48We got less wells to average it down. Speaker 201:10:50But yes, we'll probably try to maybe provide some supplemental deal that will allow you to see the current cost in the quarter, how they're trending versus seeing something that occurred maybe even last year. Speaker 301:11:04Excellent. Well, thank you for that. Operator01:11:09Thank you. I would now like to turn the conference back to Jay Allison for closing remarks. Sir? Speaker 101:11:15All right. Thank you again. We've gone over our hour, but as you know the company, we've always had a vision. I think Greg asked about, do you drill these forestry wells that are 7,500 foot times 2, 15,000 feet? And the answer is, we have a vision. Speaker 101:11:31And we had a vision to step out of 100 miles and see if we could rebirth a major gas play, which is now the Western Haynesville. We have a vision and then we always monitor where gas supply is. If you look, we've been looking for the last probably 6 or 7 weeks and the gas storage level was is about 38% above the 5 year average. Well, week after week after week, it's come down. It's like 16% above the 5 year average. Speaker 101:12:02So it's coming the right way. We're coming into the 3, 4, 5 weeks of what we call real to the mid of the summer. So we do see that. We see LNG at over 13 Bs a day right now. So it's back. Speaker 101:12:18Freeport is back. And then we look past September, October and you see the startups at Corpus Stage 3 inflectments. So we see a strong Q4 of 2024 run from the LNG fleet and that goes into 2025. So we are committed to manage. We're committed to sharing everything that we can share in all of our areas and to protect the balance sheet. Speaker 101:12:47And again, I want to compliment the Joneses for writing the $100,000,000 check for the acreage that we've been acquiring. I think that acreage is worth a fortune and they were willing to backstop that and write the check. So we're going to be good check there. So thank you for your time. We appreciate it.Read morePowered by