Cheesecake Factory Q2 2024 Earnings Call Transcript

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July 31, 2024

There are 19 speakers on the call.

Operator

Good afternoon. My name is Brianna, and I will be your conference operator today. At this time, I would like to welcome everyone to The Cheesecake Factory Incorporated Second Quarter 2024 Earnings Conference Call. Please note that this call is being recorded. All lines have been placed on mute to prevent any background noise.

Operator

After the speakers' remarks, there will be a question and answer session. Thank you. I will now turn the call over to Etienne Marcus, Vice President of Finance and Investor Relations. You may begin your conference.

Speaker 1

Good afternoon, and welcome to our Q2 fiscal 2024 earnings call. On the call with me today are David Overton, our Chairman and Chief Executive Officer David Gordon, our President and Matt Clark, our Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer. Before we begin, let me quickly remind you that during this call, items will be discussed that are not based on historical fact and are considered forward looking statements within the meaning of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. Actual results could be materially different from those stated or implied in forward looking statements as a result of the factors detailed in today's press release, which is available on our website at investors. Thecheesecakefactory.com and in our filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission.

Speaker 1

All forward looking statements made on this call speak only as of today's date and the company undertakes no duty to update any forward looking statements. In addition, during this conference call, we will be presenting results on an adjusted basis, which exclude impairment of assets and lease terminations and acquisition related expenses. An explanation of our use of non GAAP financial measures and reconciliations to the most directly comparable GAAP measures appear in our press release on our website as previously described. David Overton will begin today's call with some opening remarks and David Gordon will provide an operational update. Matt will then review our Q2 financial results and finish up with some commentary

Speaker 2

on our outlook for the

Speaker 1

Q3 and full year 2024 before opening the call up to questions. With that, I'll turn the call over to David Overton.

Speaker 3

Thank you, Etienne. We delivered another solid quarter with revenues finishing towards the higher end of our expected range and profitability surpassing expectations resulting in 24% year over year growth in adjusted earnings per share, the 3rd consecutive quarter of 20% or greater growth. Comparable sales at The Cheesecake Factory Restaurants were 1.4% for the 2nd quarter, once again meaningfully outperforming the casual dining industry, resulting in record high Cheesecake Factory restaurant average weekly sales as well as total company consolidated revenues. Annualized unit volumes at The Cheesecake Factory reached $12,500,000 for the quarter and our newest restaurant in Orem, Utah opened to tremendous demand underscoring the strong affinity for The Cheesecake Factory brand and the unique dining experiences we provide for our guests. Operational performance within the four walls was once again excellent in the Q2 with our operators intensely focused on fostering an environment where delivering delicious memorable experiences for our guests is the top priority while effectively managing their restaurants.

Speaker 3

To this point, they drove year over year improvements in food efficiencies, labor productivity, overtime and wage management contributing to significantly enhanced restaurant level profitability. In fact, The Cheesecake Factory Restaurants 4 wall margin was 17.7% for the quarter, the highest level in the past 6 years. Moving on to development, we successfully opened 5 restaurants in the Q2 including 1 Cheesecake Factory, 1 North Italia, 1 FRC Restaurant and 2 Flower Child locations, all of which have opened to impressive demand reinforcing our confidence in the strength of our experiential brands and their long term growth potential. One Cheesecake Factory restaurant also opened in Asia. Additionally, subsequent to quarter end, we opened a Blanco in Southern California.

Speaker 3

With 11 restaurant openings so far this year, we're well positioned to meet our objective of opening as many as 22 new restaurants in 2024, including as many as 3 Cheesecake Factories, 6 to 7 North Italias, 6 to 7 Flower Childs and 7 to 8 FRC Restaurants. In closing, we delivered another quarter of consistent and competitively strong results supporting our belief that our strategy of focusing on what we do best delivering exceptional service, hospitality and delicious memorable experiences for our valued guests will continue to differentiate us in the industry and allow us to drive profitable sales growth over the long term. With that, I will now turn the call over to David Gordon to provide an operational update.

Speaker 4

Thank you, David.

Speaker 5

During the Q2, our best in class operators not only drove significant profitability improvement, but just as important, continued to make incremental advances in guest satisfaction with virtually every key on premise and off premise net promoter score metric that we track for The Cheesecake Factory ending the quarter at an historic high, which we believe contributed to comparable traffic exceeding the Black Box Casual Dining Index by 2 80 basis points. These improvements are driven by our uncompromising commitment to operational excellence and the ongoing investments we make in our managers and staff to drive strong staff engagement and retention. As we've said before, we believe our staffing success has been a key contributor to our operational execution. And in the Q2, we continued to produce year over year improvements in both manager and hourly staff retention and our already high staff engagement scores increased even further from a year ago. Now turning to sales trends.

Speaker 5

Cheesecake Factory off premise sales remained relatively stable 21% of sales for the 2nd quarter, which equates to over $50,000 in off premise average weekly sales, more than double the average of our next closest peer. North Italia 2nd quarter comparable sales increased 2% from the prior year resulting in annualized AUVs of $7,900,000 Notably, our 2nd quarter new restaurant opening in the Charlotte market Ballantyne opened to tremendous demand with average weekly sales of over $188,000 for the 1st 7 weeks. Restaurant level profit margin for the adjusted mature North Italia locations was 15.3% for the quarter. In the Q2, we also opened a culinary dropout in Dallas and 2 flower child locations, 1 in Ballantyne across from the New North Italia and the other in the St. Louis market.

Speaker 5

Similar to the new North Italia location, all 3 opened to higher than expected demand, bolstering our confidence in the developing concepts in our portfolio and their ability to meaningfully contribute to our overall growth going forward. Other Fox Restaurant Concepts annualized AUVs were $7,000,000 And lastly, we just eclipsed the 1 year anniversary of the launch of the Cheesecake Rewards program and we remain very pleased with the program's performance. Acquisitions continue to exceed our internal expectations and we remain encouraged by the level of member activity and engagement that we are seeing. This year, in celebration of National Cheesecake Day, rewards members were able to enjoy any slice for half price on any dine in visit on both Monday, July 29th Tuesday, July 30th. This is an example of a marketable moment with rewards members receiving an exclusive benefit to drive member engagement and ultimately incremental traffic for our business over the long term.

Speaker 5

And with that, let me turn the call over to Matt for our financial review.

Speaker 2

Thank you, David. Let me first provide a high level recap of our Q2 results versus our expectations I outlined last quarter. Total revenues of $904,000,000 finished towards the higher end of the range we provided. Adjusted net income margin of 5.9 percent well exceeded the high end of the guidance we provided. And we returned $17,700,000 to our shareholders in the form of dividends and stock repurchases.

Speaker 2

Now turning to some more specific details around the quarter. 2nd quarter total sales at The Cheesecake Factory Restaurants were $677,000,000 up 4% from the prior year. Comparable sales increased 1.4% versus the prior year. Total sales for North Italia were $75,500,000 up 15% from the prior year period. Other FRC sales totaled $73,600,000 up 12% from the prior year and sales per operating week were $134,100 Flower Child sales totaled $35,700,000 up 7% from the prior year and sales per operating week were $85,900 And external bakery sales were $13,600,000 down 12% from the prior year.

Speaker 2

Now moving to year over year expense variance commentary. In the Q2, we continued to realize improvement across several key line items in the P and L. Specifically, cost of sales decreased 90 basis points, primarily driven by higher menu pricing than commodity inflation. Labor as a percent of sales decreased 20 basis points, primarily driven by higher menu pricing than labor inflation and labor productivity improvements, partially offset by higher management labor due to our improved staffing position as a result of increased retention. Other operating expenses increased 20 basis points.

Speaker 2

G and A decreased 40 basis points, mostly driven by lower legal fees and depreciation increased 10 basis points as a percent of sales. Preopening costs were $7,000,000 in the quarter, compared to $6,000,000 in the prior year period. We opened 5 restaurants during the Q2 versus 3 restaurants in the Q2 of 2023. And in the Q2, we recorded a pre tax net expense of $1,000,000 primarily related to FRC acquisition related expenses and impairment of assets and lease terminations income. 2nd quarter GAAP diluted net income per share was $1.08 Adjusted diluted net income per share was $1.09 Now turning to our balance sheet and capital allocation.

Speaker 2

The company ended the quarter with total available liquidity of approximately $277,000,000 including a cash balance of about $41,000,000 and approximately $237,000,000 available on our revolving credit facility. Total debt outstanding was unchanged at $475,000,000 in principal. CapEx totaled approximately $29,000,000 during the 2nd quarter for new unit development and maintenance. During the quarter, we completed approximately $3,900,000 in share repurchases and returned $13,900,000 to shareholders via our dividend. Now let me turn to our outlook.

Speaker 2

While we will not be providing specific comparable sales and earnings guidance, we will provide our updated thoughts on our underlying assumptions for Q3 and full year 2024. The assumptions factor in everything we know as of today, which includes net restaurant counts, quarter to date trends, what we think will happen in the weeks ahead and the effect of any impacts associated with holidays. And it assumes no material operating or consumer disruptions. For Q3, we anticipate total revenues to be between $855,000,000 $1,000,000 $870,000,000 which represents year over year growth similar to Q2. Next, at this time, we expect effective commodity inflation of low single digits for Q3 as our broad market basket remains very stable.

Speaker 2

We are modeling net total labor inflation of mid single digits when factoring in the latest trends in wage rates and minimum wage increases as well as other components of labor. G and A is estimated to be about $57,000,000 Depreciation is estimated to be approximately $25,000,000 Based on these assumptions, we would anticipate net income margin to be about 2.6% to 3% based on the sales range provided. Now for the full year. Based on similar assumptions, we would anticipate total revenues for fiscal 2024 to be approximately $3,580,000,000 For sensitivity purposes, we are using a range of plus or minus 50 basis points. We currently estimate total inflation across our commodity baskets, labor and other operating expenses to be in the low to mid single digit range and fairly consistent across the quarters.

Speaker 2

We are estimating G and A to be about 10 basis points higher year over year as a percent of sales and depreciation to be about $101,000,000 for the year. And given our unit growth expectations, we are estimating pre opening expenses to be approximately $28,000,000 which includes support for some early 2025 openings. Based on these assumptions, we would expect full year net income margin to be approximately 4.3% to 4.4% based on the sales range provided. Now let me provide some additional context to our underlying assumptions that I just outlined. First, we incorporated 2 Cheesecake Factory restaurant closures, one of which closed mid July related to a lease exit and the other expected to close mid August related to condemnation of the center our location is in.

Speaker 2

We adjusted expectations for our bakery external sales to be more in line with our performance in the first half of the year. And we updated sales projections for some of our lesser established concepts, which are performing more in line with broader casual dining sales trends during the first half of twenty twenty four. Importantly, our core and growth concepts, The Cheesecake Factory, North Italia and Flower Child have outperformed the industry. And this has contributed to our overall sales stability and enhanced profitability relative to our expectations and last year's results. As such, we are increasing our net income margin projections for the full year 2024.

Speaker 2

In total, we believe we remain on track for both the top line and bottom line as well as new unit openings relative to our range of expectations

Speaker 1

at the beginning of

Speaker 2

the year. Specifically, with regard to development, as David Overton highlighted earlier, we still plan to open as many as 22 new restaurants this year across our portfolio of concepts. With 4 to 5 openings in the 3rd quarter and the remainder in the 4th quarter, continuing our balanced cadence of new restaurant openings for the year. And we would anticipate approximately $180,000,000 to $200,000,000 in CapEx to support this year's and some of next year's unit development as well as required maintenance on our restaurants. In closing, we are leveraging The Cheesecake Factory's broad consumer appeal and high degree of relevance to drive sales.

Speaker 2

Our operators continue executing at an exceptionally high level to drive NPS and profitability. And our development pipeline remains intact. We have now delivered 3 consecutive quarters of strong results, including stable sales and significant profitability growth. We believe we are well positioned to continue generating our historically consistent operational and financial results and making progress towards our longer term goal of shareholder value creation. And with that said, we'll take your questions.

Operator

Thank you. We will now open the line for questions. Our first question comes from the line of David Tarantino with Baird. Please go ahead.

Speaker 6

Hi, good afternoon. Matt, I guess my question my first question is on the guidance for the year, the revenue guidance. It seems like you may have tweaked that lower. I think last time you said 3 point $6,000,000,000 and now it's $3,580,000,000 I know 3.58 rounds to 3.6,000,000 but it does I guess your comments made it sound like that was lowered and you called out a few factors. So I guess my question is, first, have you changed your outlook at all for the core brands, The Cheesecake Factory brands or North Italia in that guidance?

Speaker 2

Yes, David, this is Matt. That's a super question to lead off with. No, the core outlook for Cheesecake North and Flower Child remains intact. And we have a couple of I won't call them random events because stuff happens in business all the time, but maybe more ancillary impacts to that aggregate top line business. We noted the 2 Cheesecake closures.

Speaker 2

That's about $10,000,000 right there. So that's like half of it. And then we've seen a little bit of softness in the retail segment. So those are really the biggest drivers. And it's just it is like you said it rounds to it.

Speaker 2

But we just want to provide some context for sort of tweaking or refining that number for everybody.

Speaker 6

Great, great. That's helpful. And then I think on the last call you mentioned that you're running kind of flattish traffic at The Cheesecake Factory. Can you just give an update on where you ended the Q2 on that metric and what you're assuming for the rest of the year?

Speaker 2

Sure. So we ended a negative 0.2% on traffic. And frankly, the Sunday before the 4th July week we were still slightly positive. I think everybody knows that week in the industry kind of bookended some negative news on either side of it. So I would say to be totally fair, we were right on track for that flattish number as we expected to be.

Speaker 2

And our expectations for the year have remained the same to run-in that ballpark for the full year as well.

Speaker 6

Great. Thank you very much.

Operator

Our next question comes from the line of Andy Barish with Jefferies. Please go ahead.

Speaker 7

Hey, guys. The 17.7 Percent Cheesecake Margins, really impressive. But when you look at kind of the gap to the enterprise margin that was reported, it looks like it's a little bit wider than what I recall, about 150 basis points, 160 basis points. Is there something else going on there with increased growth in the new concepts? Or how should we think about sort of the early openings and maybe just the drag that some of those newer concepts create?

Speaker 2

Yes, Andy, this is Matt. It's a good question. We were really pleased with the 17.7% for Teekay Factory for sure as you noted and we've made a ton of progress there. We've always talked about a 1% to 2% range from the core concept to the consolidated metric and it ebbs and flows depending upon how many new restaurants are opening in all of the other concepts. And certainly, if you think about our outlook and where we're opening and how many of each concept, it was disproportionately newer concepts in the first half of the year, right?

Speaker 2

It was really just Orem of the Cheesecake Factory and that was just the very last week of the quarter. So all of those other new concepts opened up, which we had 10 openings in the first half of the year, which is I think really incredible for us too. So that's really the difference of why you might have seen a 1% sometimes, it could be 1.6% or something is what you said and it's really the growth in those new concepts for that period of time.

Speaker 7

Got you. And then just the concept at North slowed down, obviously still really high unit volumes there. It sounds like new stores are opening well. But anything that you would point out, I know it's a relatively small comp base in the 2% number you reported for the 2Q?

Speaker 2

Yes. And I would also just echo what I talked about the whole 4th July. I think it literally rounded to 3% that Sunday. So it was just a fractionally different than expectations. I had nothing more than that.

Speaker 3

Okay. Thank you very much.

Operator

Our next question comes from the line of Jon Tower with Citi. Please go ahead.

Speaker 8

Great. Thanks for taking the questions. Maybe just from a high level, kind of going back to the margin piece, it's impressive to hear Cheesecake close to 18% this quarter. And I'm just curious when kind of zooming out and looking at the company over time, obviously, you've made some pretty good progress from where you were on store level margins. But trying to think about the brands or the enterprise over the longer term, do you see a path to reaching, say, above pre pandemic levels when it comes to consolidated store level margins, so closer to that 16%, 17% that you had 2018, 2019 timeframe?

Speaker 2

John, this is Matt. Yes, we do. I mean, we think that the business should operate between 16% 18%. That's sort of like econ when we're supply and demand meet in casual dining. It certainly will depend on the rate of growth in any given period of time.

Speaker 2

So if you think about pre pandemic, also we just didn't have as much growth. And that does weigh on the enterprise margin for that period of time, right. So I think that is going to be a piece of it. I mean that being said, the more progress we make in Cheesecake, the more we'll absorb that growth. And I think getting in over 16% is still our goal.

Speaker 2

And given the progress that we've made over the past 18 months, it's definitely in our sights.

Speaker 8

Okay. And in terms of thinking about that timeline, are you thinking this is something achievable over the next 5 years? Or do you think that's more beyond that because your system needs to continue to grow to reach that?

Speaker 2

I would say it's less than 5 years. I mean I think the trajectory that we're on is positive. The underlying fundamentals of the business are stable. When you look at things like wage growth and commodities being relatively benign, it gives us an opportunity to rebuild. Much like we did when we came out of the financial crisis, right, I think it is a parallel at this point in time.

Speaker 2

So I don't know about a specific time, but certainly well in advance of 5 years for sure.

Speaker 8

Got it. And then just one clarification on the bakery comments that you made earlier, the growth going forward. Are you expecting the percentage growth to stay the same or dollars in terms of the back half of the year relative to what we saw in the first half?

Speaker 2

Percent, really the percentage. So just a little bit of pressure on the branded retail. I mean, I think you've seen that from other big CPG companies, so.

Speaker 1

Got it. Thank you.

Operator

Our next question comes from the line of Brian Mullen with Piper Sandler. Please go ahead.

Speaker 9

Hey, thank you. Just wanted to ask on California, just given your exposure there, I wanted to ask what you're seeing from that consumer over the last few months. Are the trends much different than the rest of the system? Has anything surprised you one way or the other in terms

Speaker 10

of consumer response to some

Speaker 9

of the changes on the non full service? Any color would be great.

Speaker 5

Hi, Brian. This is David Gordon. Thanks for the question. We're seeing pretty consistent trends across all geographies, really no additional pressure in California. I know that has been reported recently, probably a little bit more in the QSR world, but we are not seeing that certainly.

Speaker 5

We are also not really seeing any impact yet on wages at all from the FAST Act, which are two positive signs for us. So really no change.

Speaker 9

Okay, thanks. And then just some of the comments where the core brands are outperforming the industry and then maybe some of the FRC brands are more in line with the industry. When you're seeing that in what is a pretty tough industry environment, does that make you evaluate or rethink how many non core brand units you'd want to open in the years ahead? Or I know the flip side of that is maybe not because those units could one of those could turn into the next core brand, but I'd just be curious to get your thinking and if you evaluate that from time to time?

Speaker 2

Brian, this is Matt. We of course look at that. I mean we have tremendous faith in all of those concepts. We view the environment as being relatively tough and transitory, notwithstanding the outperformance in some of our concepts. I think we've seen a little bit of alcohol trade down, which has resulted in that.

Speaker 2

But the unit economics across the FRC concepts are tremendously strong still and worthy of growth. So we're going to continue to invest as we always have for the long term and not for 1 quarter or the

Speaker 3

next. Thank you.

Operator

Our next question comes from the line of Catherine Griffin with Bank of America. Please go ahead.

Speaker 11

Hi, thank you. First, I wanted to ask a clarification on the unit growth outlook. It looked to me like you raised the guidance for some of the for the Fox Restaurant concept, which I believe doesn't include Flower Childs. So I think the Flower Child guidance is intact, but you raised the guidance for some of the other concepts. But I'm trying to square that, I guess, with some of your comments about the outperformance of North Italia and Flower Child relative to your expectations.

Speaker 11

And I guess, yes, what's essentially behind that increase in the unit growth outlook that we should be considering?

Speaker 2

So Catherine, this is Matt. I would think about it as a fungible pool over time. Now one of those locations that we've been targeting opening will not go unopened over time. It just may be in the Q4 or it could be in the Q1 of next year. So frankly, I just wouldn't read anything into the specific movement of 1 or another in a given year.

Speaker 2

It's really about the optimizing of the timing and when that makes the most sense from a construction standpoint and our resources for our new opening teams. We were completely bullish on our pipeline. Think we're in really great shape for this year and frankly for next.

Operator

Great. Thank you.

Speaker 11

And then the second question is just if you're seeing anything as far as quarter to date trends that as far as like changes in seasonality, I know you spoke to seeing some like pretty resilient comps up until July 4, but I'm just curious if you're seeing any differences whether that's impacts from hybrid work or extended summer vacations that are embedded in your 3Q 3Q top line expectations?

Speaker 2

Yes, Catherine, it's Matt. I do think the one thing to call out which I think has been noted in many others, As hot as it has been in so many parts of the country, it can impact patio utilization, right? And so I think that just can ebb and flow depending on I don't know if it's a permanent change in seasonality or sometimes it's more in June July than it is in August September. But all of that's factored into our expectations. Otherwise, we do believe that things are slightly different than 10 years ago, but that had started really before COVID too.

Speaker 2

So I think it's just returning to what a normal seasonal pattern would be post pandemic.

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Brian Vaccaro with Raymond James. Please go ahead.

Speaker 10

Hi, thanks and good evening. Matt, on Cheesecake Factory's comps, could you comment kind of specifically on the cadence that you saw through the quarter? And any color on what you're seeing in July? It seems like the casual dining segment data has softened up. Curious if you're seeing that.

Speaker 10

Any changes in consumer behavior or one off items you think the word is highlighting?

Speaker 2

Christine, we've been obviously paying a lot of attention to that and doing a lot of analytics. The year has been very consistent for us in Cheesecake Factory particularly. Whether you're looking at a 1 year stack, a 2 year stack or a 5 year stack, it just hasn't moved that much. And I'm talking about plus or minus or percent over month is not that very, very big variance. And so we feel pretty good about the predictability and the stability of that concept and weathering the storm well.

Speaker 2

I think as I noted to Catherine, in July the one thing I would call out is weather. I mean it was tremendously hot in parts of the Northeast all across the country really. I think that did impact the patio usage, which we're able to accurately assess and sort of understand. But otherwise, I feel like our trends for the past 6, 7 months have been in a very tight range.

Speaker 10

Okay. And can you remind us on Cheesecake's Patio business, what percent of sales this time of year come from the patio or seats overall are patio and Cheesecake?

Speaker 2

Yes. I think it's I'll double check why we can get you something specific. I'll comment off the top of my head, but at the end of the team, we'll make sure it's right. I think it's around 15%, but certainly peak summer is less than that. That's more like an annualized number.

Speaker 2

So it could be 10 in peak summer. Spring and fall have highest for obvious reasons. But winter is then strong in Arizona and Florida. So it kind of depends. So we'll get a specific number for you.

Speaker 10

Okay. Okay. Thank you. And sorry if I missed it earlier, but could you just run through the comp components for both Cheesecake and North in

Speaker 2

Q2? Yes. For Cheesecake, like I said, the traffic was a negative 0.2. The pricing was 4.5 and the mix was a negative 2.9. So I think all of those factors came in pretty much right in line with where we expected them to.

Speaker 2

Them to. And then do you have the north ones in front of you? I do. Okay, great.

Speaker 1

So north traffic was negative 1%,

Speaker 5

price was 6% and mix was negative 3%.

Speaker 10

Okay, great. And then just last one if I could. On the G and A, you said that the Q2 came in quite a bit more favorable. I think you mentioned legal costs, but maybe you could just flush that out a little bit for us. But I think you also raised your G and A guide for the year a little bit.

Speaker 10

Any color on that would be helpful. Thank you.

Speaker 2

Sure. I think that we in the last quarter said we'd be up 10 basis points which that was a slight increase over Q1. So we're maintaining that same perspective. Kind of like I said in the last call, G and A can be a little bit lumpy. Not everything is 100% controllable quarter to quarter.

Speaker 2

We did have 1 or 2 particularly large settlements last year and we've just seen some favorable management in the legal area that contributed to some savings. So honestly too given the environment we're just buckling down and everybody is watching every penny, right? So we're just trying to make sure that we're in line with sales and driving profitability.

Speaker 10

All right. Thank you.

Operator

Our next question comes from the line of Brian Harber with Morgan Stanley. Please go ahead.

Speaker 12

Yes. Thank you. Good afternoon. Matt, maybe just another small cost question, but you're seeing kind of favorability in the labor and in food lines. There's still a little bit of pressure on the other OpEx line.

Speaker 12

Could you comment on what's driving that? Do you think that still kind of continues in the second half?

Speaker 2

Yes. I mean as we've talked about there are multiple factors, but we obviously are spending more on marketing of the rewards program. So I think we called that out that we're still lapping that in the Q2. So absent that, it's pretty much in line. We didn't see any there was like a 10th year, but a positive 10th there.

Speaker 2

There was nothing material outside of it. So and for the balance of the year, we would expect to be similar to last year as a percent of sales?

Speaker 1

Yes, pretty flattish as a percent of sales, particularly for

Speaker 5

the Q3 and maybe a little bit of benefit

Speaker 1

in the Q4, but that's pretty much what we're thinking at this point in time.

Speaker 12

Okay. Got it. Makes sense. North Italia comps, you said it was kind of in line with your expectations. I guess, are some of the older stores consistent with that number?

Speaker 12

Are they drastically different? What do you think kind of can drive North Italia comps over time if perhaps they were to pick up?

Speaker 2

I think it's pretty consistent. There's always it's a small base, Brian, so there's always going to be one restaurant here or there that's slightly different than the others. We're pretty happy I think in the long term we target about 3%. So we're right in the ballpark for that. I think if you think about Cheesecake Factory managing through a little bit of the negative mix component there and they have a little bit too on the alcohol side, but we feel like it's pretty stable.

Speaker 2

And so we're not concerned. We feel like it's right on track. As David Gordon mentioned, our newest opening was one of the best we've ever had. So we know it's resonating, but I think there's just a little bit of recalibration on the mix that I think stabilizes in the course of the next 6 to 12 months.

Speaker 1

Thank you.

Operator

Our next question comes from the line of Dennis Geiger with UBS. Please go ahead.

Speaker 13

Great. Thank you. Matt, you might have just touched on some of this just there. But as it relates to that mix breakdown, I think you've given some good detail in prior quarters and thinking about alcohol sides, group order. Can you do that a little more, provide some more specific color there?

Speaker 13

And I think you kind of talked about the mix outlook a little bit there. But can you go into that a little more? Can we still maybe get to a flattish by the end of the year or maybe not quite yet? Thank you.

Speaker 2

Sure, Dennis. I think honestly we feel really good about the predictability and trajectory there because it's come in now 3 quarters in a row kind of right where we would thought. The big picture is when we lapped around some of the social, not just restrictions, but how people felt, We got more big parties back in, the big parties per capita buy a little bit less than a 2 top or 4 top. But what we've seen really is very consistent spend per person by party size. The Cheesecake Factory has 46 years or so of experience, right?

Speaker 2

Such a broad menu. And so it's not a big surprise that it will return to the norm. And we definitely believe that you're going to see, give or take, another 1% improvement in Q3 and a 1% in Q4 and sort of our expectations generally for mix is plus or minus 1%. I think we'll get back to a normal range whether it's exactly flat that we'll see, right? That's still 6 months to go, but it should be fast approaching it over that time.

Speaker 13

Helpful. And maybe one other just on price from here as it relates to I think you spoke previously about what we should expect for price over the coming quarters. What does that look like in the absence of additional price and anything to share kind of on the next round of price? Thank you.

Speaker 2

Yes. We think we're going to be at a little just a hair over 4% for the back half of the year. And then we feel like in this environment we should be able to get back next year to kind of that normal 2.5% to 3%, knock on wood all things being equal. So we believe we've done a good job and not seeing pressure as evidenced by the flat traffic over the last 3 quarters absent the January weather. So we feel like that's been a balance that we've been able to maintain.

Speaker 2

But at the same time we'd like to add back down to normal levels. We've talked a lot about over the years that we kind of managed to the average. I'm pretty sure when I saw the latest U. S. Inflation data, it was restaurant pricing was up 4.2%.

Speaker 2

So we're right in the middle and we're right in the middle of the groups that we track and so we're maintaining our value proposition well.

Speaker 14

Great. Thanks, Matt.

Operator

Our next question comes from the line of Jim Valera with Stephens Inc. Please go ahead.

Speaker 4

Hi, guys. Thanks for taking our question. I wanted to drill down a little bit on the rewards program. I think historically you guys have mentioned one of the value propositions there is that it helps alleviate some of the wait times and improves the overall guest experience. Can you just match that up with the better than industry trends that you're seeing on traffic?

Speaker 4

And does that help support traffic at Cheesecake and support acquisition as kind of an added value prop?

Speaker 5

Sure. Hi, Jim. This is David Gordon. I think what you're referring to really is one of the published offers as part of the program, which is exclusive access to reservations for reward members. And we are seeing reservations activation being very, very solid.

Speaker 5

We know the guests when we asked them before the program what they would really appreciate about a rewards program is to not have to wait at Cheesecake Factory. So certainly convenience and people being impressed for time today is important as ever and knowing that you can get into Cheesecake Factory and perhaps not have to wait as you have historically on every single visit is a real big benefit of the program. The other published rewards being complementary slice of cheesecake on your birthday, we're seeing strong utilization there as well. And just overall acquisition continues to be very, very strong. Our increased membership enrollment is very, very strong.

Speaker 5

People are very engaged in the program. So I think along with reservations, all aspects of the program seem to be resonating with Cheesecake Rewards guests so far. And just pointing back to National Cheesecake Day, which I mentioned earlier, and we just completed National Cheesecake Day Monday Tuesday of this week. And as we compare to last year's NCD, which was on the same days, our comps were up mid single digit. We had twice the enrollment that we had last year, and we had 4x member redemptions versus last year.

Speaker 5

So the increased numbers have been effective. People are really engaged in the program. We'll continue to I know we keep saying it's early, but we are only a year in. So we're going to continue to test and learn, analyze the information and make sure that our unpublished offers, which are important part of the program as well, where we're taking an individualized approach to drive incrementality, continue to be meaningful and get us really strong returns without any additional cost.

Speaker 4

Okay. That's super helpful. And maybe keeping that same train of thought, but thinking about North Italia, I know historically the Italian space has a lot of mom and pop competition that probably don't have any digital or very limited digital offerings. Is there anything you can do taking your learnings from that and maybe bridge it to North Italia? Or is it just not big enough of a concept yet to kind of warrant a full fledged program alongside the offering there?

Speaker 5

Well, certainly, down the road, as we continue to learn what resonates with guests as part of the program or any offerings, whatever might make sense for North Italia or fit down the line would be something we can look at. North has historically taken reservations, and that's a meaningful part of how guests utilize North today. We haven't changed that program, don't really have any intention of changing it. So I would say down in the future, we can talk about that a little bit more. Right now, because of the size of the concept and the continued growth, I wouldn't anticipate anything in the near term, any type of loyalty reward program.

Speaker 1

Okay, great.

Operator

Thanks for

Speaker 4

the color guys. I'll hop back in the queue.

Operator

Our next question comes from the line of Matt Curtis with William Blair. Please go ahead.

Speaker 15

Hi, good afternoon. We've heard some other casual dining brands talk about kicking up marketing spend in the second half of the year. So I was just wondering if you could talk about what your plans are at The Cheesecake Factory to remain top of mind and what looks like it's becoming a more promotional and ad hoc environment?

Speaker 5

Matt, this is David Gordon again. I think I would just lean back into the rewards program. I don't think that we need to take a look at a spend that's additional to what we've already talked about being that the rewards program is already built into our plan for the year. And since we do have a higher than anticipated membership rate thus far, we are going to continue to communicate to those guests and try and drive incrementality whether that's trying to drive them to a specific day of the week or a specific daypart or introduce them to new and different products that perhaps they haven't ordered before off the menu gives us I think leverage that we haven't historically had and we know that it works because we've seen it so far this year and that's how we'll continue to do marketing in a way that works for Cheesecake.

Speaker 15

Okay, great. Thanks very much.

Operator

Our next question comes from the line of Jim Sanderson with Northcoast Research. Please go

Speaker 16

ahead. Thanks for the question. Just following up on the discussion of the loyalty program. Is there a plan in the back half of the year to increase number of events similar to the free cheesecake giveaway that yielded mid single digit comps? Just wondering if the plan is to increase the number of events that would be incremental in the back half?

Speaker 5

Well, unpublished offers are happening all the time. So how we utilize those unpublished offers or what they're going to be, obviously we haven't talked about yet. But we'll continue to understand guests and how they're utilizing us and we certainly know that that's a powerful tool. And we've tested numerous different offers over the past 6 months, not just half off of a complimentary half off of a slice of cheesecake, but a lot of different offers. So we'll continue to do that and we know what's most effective and we want to continue to do it in a way that protects margins at the same time.

Speaker 16

Understood. Understood. And then a follow-up question on store closures. Is there any other expectations that you'll see units potentially at risk of having to be closed based on some of the leasing issues or other issues in the next 2 to 4 quarters?

Speaker 2

I would always say there could be 1 or 2, right? It's the leasing environment continues to be pretty dynamic. I think we've built a great pipeline of openings. But we're always looking at the portfolio. We have almost 3.50 restaurants.

Speaker 2

Many of them come up on lease on an annual basis. And we've had a great amount of success when we've moved trade areas. So we're always going to evaluate if a site comes up for its lease then we'll look and see if there's a better location and if that makes sense. So I would say there's always a probability of 1 to 2 in that kind of timeframe.

Speaker 16

All right. Thank you very much.

Operator

Our next question comes from the line of Jeffrey Bernstein with Barclays. Please go ahead.

Speaker 14

Great. Thank you very much. Just two questions. The first one just on the competitive environment. Clearly, we've seen some aggressive discounting from other casual diners.

Speaker 14

I know that's not a strategy you guys typically pursue, but you said there's any noticeable impact on you or the broader industry or maybe changing your value scores or maybe you're seeing your own consumer shift to more value oriented items while still coming, but maybe shifting down to more cost less costly items. Any thoughts there? And then I had a follow-up.

Speaker 5

Hi, Jeff. It's David Gordon again. This isn't the first time that we've seen marketing out there in casual dining ramp up. It's happened historically over our 45 plus years. And generally, we don't see it have an impact to us and our guests or value perception from our guests because others are offering a lot of different type of value.

Speaker 5

So we wouldn't anticipate in this cycle that we would see it have any sort of negative impact to our long term and short term plan. And we haven't seen that in the recent activity that's probably picked up in the past few months.

Speaker 14

Understood. And then my follow-up is the comments you made about the lesser known brands. I think you said it's comping more similar to broader casual dining, so below perhaps your core brands. Wondering whether there are any initiatives you have to reaccelerate that traffic or whether those brands actually take a more aggressive approach to drive traffic or whether you're okay with them kind of lagging your core brands because you're not in the game of trying to drive short term traffic? Just trying to get a feel for some of those other brands relative to your core.

Speaker 14

Thank you.

Speaker 2

Sure. Yes, it's Matt. We're always looking to drive traffic. So that never the gas pedal is always on. And like I said, I think some of it is transitory.

Speaker 2

I think some of it is mix on alcohol, right, which is not necessarily related to the guest traffic side of things. And so those are 2 different equations. We're not necessarily in this environment looking to push check, right? I don't think that that's a wise strategy. So if our guest traffic is relatively stable, but we have a little bit less incident rate, that's one trajectory.

Speaker 2

That's where we think we're at right now. And we're always going to be in every one of our concepts looking for ways whether it's through more unique advertising, menu items or operational initiatives to drive that. So no, there's nobody is just watching that happen. We're aggressively attacking all fronts.

Speaker 1

Thank you.

Operator

Our next question comes from the line of Jeff Farmer with Gordon Haskett. Please go ahead.

Speaker 17

Thank you. You called out delivering improvements in food efficiencies, labor productivity, I think over time, wage management, a long list of things in the Q2 at the restaurant level. My question is, what is the opportunity to drive further efficiencies or improvements as we get into Q3 and Q4?

Speaker 5

Jeff, this is David Gordon again. I think we're always looking to improve upon previous performance. One thing we haven't touched much on is just the stable staffing and retention of the restaurants. And I think that again,

Speaker 1

I was just looking at the month

Speaker 5

that just ended and we're seeing best in class retention at the staff level and at the management level, which is why we're seeing increased efficiencies, lower over time, better wage management and higher NPS scores. And I would anticipate that to happen this coming quarter as well and into the Q4 because of the stability we have in each one of those locations where you have staff members that are more comfortable doing their job. We're able to continue to cross train them, which increases productivity. So the more time we have that stability, the more we would anticipate that each one of those metrics when it comes to labor or food efficiency or food waste will continue to improve quarter over quarter.

Speaker 17

All right. Thank you for that. And just one quick bookkeeping. Matt, you might have talked about it, I might have missed it, but did you share the commodity and wage inflation numbers in Q2?

Speaker 2

Q2, the commodity is about 1% and wage inflation has kind of dipped in about 4 ish percent, continues to improve. So those are both very solid based on historical kind of references, if you will.

Speaker 1

All right. Thank you.

Operator

Our next question comes from the line of John Ivankoe with JPMorgan. Please go ahead.

Speaker 18

Hi. Thank you. Years ago, and hopefully it's still the case now, the industry measured the perceived price and its price service value from a food perspective that they were giving their guests through prime costs. Your prime costs are actually relatively low for casual dining at around 57% and that's obviously anchored by COGS that are getting down to the low 22% range. So when you do think about longer term margin expansion across your portfolio, can those prime costs go even lower?

Speaker 18

Could or should those COGS go even lower? Or when you think about longer term the ability to expand your margin, should we expect it to be more volume driven through the fixed cost side? Thank you.

Speaker 2

Yes, John, this is Matt. That's a good question. It's an interesting dynamic for sure. One thing that I like to remind our investors is that we tend to have slightly higher labor and slightly lower commodity costs because we make everything from scratch in the restaurant every single day and many of our competitors frankly don't do that and have a commissary. And so the mix of those 2 can be a little bit misleading.

Speaker 2

I think 57% is a strong number, but it's probably right in line historically with where we've been. Keep in mind too that we benefit from the vertical integration of The Cheesecake Factory Bakeries. So I think that that skews a little bit. I think from the efficiencies David Gordon talked about relative to retention, there still is an opportunity without taking anything away from the guests and keeping our huge portions and great food and great service to get a little bit better, right? So if we can keep even more of our people, it makes the training and everything he talked about get a little bit better.

Speaker 2

So we're always going to try for that. At the same time, I would also like to see volume pick up and have a little bit of leverage. I mean, the ideal state is to get a little bit of both.

Speaker 18

That's great. Understood. Thank you.

Operator

There are no further questions at this time. This will conclude today's conference call. Thank you all for your participation. You may now disconnect.

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