Good Times Restaurants Q3 2024 Earnings Call Transcript

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August 1, 2024

There are 6 speakers on the call.

Operator

Good afternoon, ladies and gentlemen, and welcome to the Good Times Restaurants, Inc. Fiscal 2024 Third Quarter Earnings Call. I am Keri August, the Company's Senior Vice President of Finance and Accounting. By now, everyone should have access to the Company's earnings release, which is available in the Investors of the company's website. As a reminder, a part of today's discussion will include forward looking statements within the meaning of federal securities laws.

Operator

These forward looking statements are not guarantees of future performance and therefore you should not put undue reliance on them. These statements involve known and unknown risks, which may cause the company's actual results to differ materially from results expressed or implied by the forward looking statements. Such risks and uncertainties include, among other things, the market price of the Company's stock prevailing from time to time, the nature of other investment opportunities presented to the company, the disruption to our business from pandemics and other health, other public health emergencies, the impact and duration of staffing constraints at our restaurants, the impact of supply chain constraints and inflation, the uncertain nature of current restaurant development plans and the ability to implement those plans and integrate new restaurants delays in developing and opening new restaurants because of weather, local permitting or other reasons increased competition cost increases or shortages in raw food products, other general economic and operating conditions, risks associated with our share repurchase program, risks associated with the acquisition of additional restaurants, the adequacy of cash flows and the cost and availability of capital or credit facility borrowings to provide liquidity and other matters discussed under the Risk Factors section of Good Times' Annual Report on Form 10 ks for the fiscal year ended September 26, 2023, and other reports filed with the SEC.

Operator

During today's call, the company will discuss non GAAP measures, which we believe can be useful in evaluating our performance. The presentation of this additional information should not be considered in isolation or as a substitute for results prepared in accordance with GAAP and reconciliations to comparable GAAP measures available in our earnings release. And now I would like to turn the call over to our Chief Executive Officer, Ryan Zink.

Speaker 1

Thank you, Carrie. Thank you all for joining us today. I'm encouraged by the sales results from both brands with Good Times delivering same store sales growth of 5.8% for the quarter. Meanwhile, Bad Daddy's reported the same store sales increase this quarter, posting a 1.2% increase. Our approach at both brands is centered around an intense focus on the guest and in particular at Bad Daddy's, investing in greater front of house labor to provide better hospitality in our dining rooms and greater engagement and speed at the bar.

Speaker 1

As of the date of this call, same store sales during the Q4 at Bad Daddy's continue to be growing in the low single digit range and our performance against the Black Box Casual Dining Index has continued to trend favorably. Smashed patty burgers have been a trend this quarter and Bad Daddy's nailed this trend, releasing its own Smash burgers as a limited time offer for the summer season. Our classic Smash is a familiar build with shredded lettuce, our house made kickback sauce, sliced onions and American cheese with a single quarter pound aggressively smashed patty. Our steakhouse smashed burger features the same patty with house made grilled onion aioli, shredded lettuce, A1 onion rings and sharp cheddar cheese. Both burgers demonstrate our culinary prowess, but at a significant value to our guests with a price point starting at 8.50 for a single patty classic smash.

Speaker 1

We expect the classic smash to continue on this into the fall as our guests have demonstrated their excitement over this method of cooking a burger. We further expect both the Classic Smash and the Steakhouse Smash to ultimately become permanent items on the full menu. The sales stabilization in the Atlanta market that I mentioned last quarter has continued. And although individual store performance has varied, I would now consider this a sales recovery in the markets. Our restaurant operations have improved from where they were 12 months ago.

Speaker 1

And while our passion for excellence means that we have more work to do, I believe that we have significantly improved our guest experience in this market. Labor continues to be an ongoing challenge. In most markets, the number of applicants has increased and the experience and skills of applicants for both team member and management roles has improved somewhat. However, wage and salary pressures are not abating, attracting the employees who demonstrate the right skills, the right focus on the guest and the strong work ethic that's required at a Bad Daddy's has required higher starting wages or salaries than ever before. Average pay for restaurant staff and management continues to increase despite the greater slack that's been reported to exist in the overall labor market.

Speaker 1

Given the continuing challenges in the labor market and despite the rising tide of broad based sales recovery, we have a few restaurants in our portfolio that continually to perpetually underperform on the top line. As we continue to evaluate the underlying real estate and each restaurant's historical sales performance, including pre pandemic sales peaks, we may choose to make the difficult decision to close certain restaurants that have not participated in the sales recovery that our overall system has experienced. Our Madison, Alabama restaurant continues to perform well and I'm excited about the continuity of the highly capable management team that we have in that restaurant. It continues to be a top quartile store in terms of overall sales performance. And as we approach the 1 year anniversary of that restaurant's opening, the honeymoon impact we've seen has been nearly the tamest of any Bad Daddy's opening since the original 3 in Charlotte over a decade ago.

Speaker 1

I remain optimistic that when the restaurant enters the comp base following its 18 month of operations next spring that it will do so growing sales on an already strong sales base. At Good Times, our sales growth has been significantly weighted to dinner and late night sales. Additionally, our sales growth has been supported by strong sales trends at the 2 restaurants we purchased late in fiscal 2023 as well as by restaurants that have been remodeled. Early into the Q4, our competitors have increased their promotional activity with the prevalence of $5 value meals. This has cut into our same store sales performance a bit.

Speaker 1

And while we've traditionally shied away from deep discounts, we're highly attuned to the operating environment and expect some additional value oriented promotional activity, but without engaging in the deep discounting that many of our competitors are. We closed on the purchase of the Good Times in Parker, Colorado during the quarter. This restaurant has a dining room and is a larger footprint than most of our Good Times, which are typically double drive through formats. This restaurant was reasonably well maintained with new equipment and an interior that was already clean and in good condition. But after 20 years of operations, some TLC was due.

Speaker 1

We immediately replaced the awnings, painted the building, completely refurbished the parking lot and performed the landscape overhaul. We've added digital menu boards and have our new sign package in flight. We're excited about the sales potential at this restaurant in a suburb of Denver that is experiencing strong population growth. We also completed the remodel of the Good Times in Lakewood, Colorado and have experienced a significant turnaround in sales at this restaurant. Free remodel sales were positive or were trending double digit negative and are now generally trending double digit positive on a year over year basis.

Speaker 1

This more extensive remodel required a 6 week closure and more substantial CapEx than we've typically been spending on our remodels. This is the 4th remodel of our traditional double drive thru units. Digital engagement remains a focus for us. And as we discussed last quarter, the challenges involved in guest adoption activity. That said, growth in member activity began accelerated after a lull near the end of Q2 and we've created some team member and management incentives to ensure the right focus at the restaurant level on growing GC Rewards.

Speaker 1

We are near the end of our rollout of our next generation point of sale system, Toast, which is the leading most feature rich cloud centric point of sale system. We've seen significant improvement in order taking and payment processing with this new system, which has provided greater time for order takers and cashiers to focus on value added interactions with our guests, including highlighting GT Rewards. We're conducting a similar evaluation of Bad Daddy's and it is likely that a test and possible rollout of the Toast system will be forthcoming during our next fiscal year. We repurchased 92,240 shares during the quarter under our share repurchase program. Additionally, we executed a privately negotiated purchase of approximately 171,000 shares at an average price of $2.60 per share.

Speaker 1

We continue to believe that the market is not adequately valuing our business and that the share repurchase program generates a strong return for shareholders who choose to hold their shares. At the end of the quarter, we had approximately $1,500,000 remaining on the repurchase authorization. At the present rate of repurchases and current market price, we still have a few months left on the existing authorization. And assuming market factors remain similar, we expect the authorization to be expanded sometime prior to the exhaustion of the current authorization. With that, I will now turn the call back over to Keri to review our performance for the quarter.

Operator

Thank you, Ryan. Let's review this quarter's results. Total revenues increased approximately 6 point 5% for the quarter to $37,900,000 Total restaurant sales for Bad Daddy's Restaurants increased $1,200,000 to $27,300,000 for the quarter. The sales increase was a result of the Q4 2023 Madison, Alabama restaurant opening, the prior year remodel temporary closure of the Greenville, South Carolina restaurant, as well as an approximate 4.4% menu price increase, partially offset by reduced customer traffic. Same store sales increased 1.2% for the quarter with 39 Bad Daddy's in the comp base at quarter end.

Operator

Cost of sales at Bad Daddy's were 31.2% for the quarter, a 10 basis point increase from last year's quarter. The increase is primarily attributable to higher purchase prices in our commodity basket compared to the prior year quarter, partially offset by the impact of a 4.4% average increase in menu pricing. During the current quarter, we began to experience elevated costs across the various proteins in our basket. In particular, wholesale ground beef prices have increased and following the end of the quarter increased to an all time record and we expect them to continue to remain elevated during the 4th fiscal quarter of 2024, as will likely be the case for other proteins and food based commodities. Bad Daddy's labor costs decreased by 90 basis points compared to the prior year quarter to 33.8 percent for the quarter.

Operator

This decrease as a percentage of sales is attributable to greater labor productivity. Occupancy costs at Bad Daddy's decreased 20 basis points to 6.3%. Bad Daddy's other operating costs were flat compared to the prior year quarter at 14.4% for the quarter. Overall, restaurant level operating profit, a non GAAP measure for Bad Daddy's was approximately $3,900,000 for the quarter or 14.3 percent of sales, compared to $3,500,000 or 13.3 percent last year. Total restaurant sales for company owned Good Times Restaurants increased approximately $1,100,000 to $10,400,000 for the quarter compared to the prior year Q3.

Operator

The average menu price increase for the quarter was approximately 3.9% over the same prior year quarter. Same store sales increased 5.8% for the quarter with 26 Good Times Restaurants in the comp base at quarter end. Food and packaging costs for Good Times were 30.5% for the quarter, an increase of 20 basis points compared to last year's quarter. The increase is primarily attributable to higher purchase prices on food and paper goods, partially offset by the impact of 3.9 percent average increase in menu pricing. As in the case with Bad Daddy's, we expect continued pressure on beef and other food prices in the last quarter of the fiscal year.

Operator

Total labor costs for Good Times increased to 32 point increase from the 31.1% we ran during last year's quarter. Due to labor associated with 3 additional company owned restaurants, an increase in operating hours caused by later closing times in nearly every restaurant, and higher average wage rates resulting from market forces in the CPI index minimum wage in Denver and the state of Colorado. Occupancy costs at Good Times were 8.2%, an increase of 30 basis points from the prior year quarter. The increase is primarily due to costs incurred for 3 additional company owned restaurants, as well as real property tax increases resulting from higher property values. Good Times other operating costs were 12% for the quarter, an increase of 60 basis points, primarily due to costs associated with 3 additional company owned restaurants, as well as increased repair and maintenance, credit card fees and customer delivery fees.

Operator

Good Times restaurant level operating profit decreased by $100,000 for the quarter to 1,700,000 dollars As a percent of sales, restaurant level operating profit decreased by 2 80 basis points versus last year to 16.5%. Combined general and administrative expenses were $2,700,000 during the quarter or 7.1 percent of total revenues, an increase of 40 basis points from the prior year quarter. Our net income to common shareholders for the quarter was 1,300,000 dollars or income of $0.12 per share versus net income of $800,000 $0.07 per share in the Q3 last year. There was approximately $200,000 of income tax benefit recorded during the current quarter versus $600,000 in the prior year quarter. Adjusted EBITDA for the quarter was $2,100,000 compared to $2,100,000 for the Q3 of 2023.

Operator

We finished the quarter with $4,800,000 in cash and $1,100,000 of long term debt. And now I will turn the call back to Ryan.

Speaker 1

Thank you, Carrie. Our operator's name is also Carrie. And so at this time, we will turn our call back over to our operator, Carrie, for questions at this time.

Speaker 2

Thank you. We'll now begin the question and answer Your first question will come from Roger Liston.

Speaker 3

Yes. Good afternoon, guys. Question with the rising beef prices, maybe you may you could comment on it, but if so I missed it, do you expect to have to raise menu prices to offset the higher beef prices, both concepts?

Speaker 1

Yes, Roger. Thanks for dialing in. Thanks for the question. We evaluate prices in various lenses and one of those is certainly what the competitor environment is doing. And there's certainly a customer demand for value right now.

Speaker 1

And so we certainly have to manage to certain costs and to address our costs. But I think just because we have beef prices at the moment that are high, I would not necessarily say, oh, that's going to be a Q4 price increase. Now what I would say is that especially as the year rolls over, the calendar year rolls over, the labor costs will likely increase again. And so right now, at the moment, I'd say for both concepts, we're really targeting the end of fiscal quarter 1 for our next price increase, although the environment is dynamic and so we'll remain dynamic and make and adjust as we see. I will also say, Roger, that based on the commodity reports that we get, the long term prognosis for beef of all sorts, not just ground beef is somewhat negative from a cost standpoint.

Speaker 1

In other words, continued elevation of cost in the long term. And so there's probably an issue that the entire segment is going to have to deal with for a little bit of time.

Speaker 3

Right. Did you mention your advertising expense in the quarter? Probably did and I missed it.

Speaker 1

Carrie, do you have at your disposal the advertising expense for the quarter?

Operator

I do. We had 700 what's that, Ryan?

Speaker 1

Go ahead, Carrie.

Operator

Okay. Advertising expense was 2% of revenues for the quarter, dollars 749,000

Speaker 3

Okay. And do you expect that to remain roughly the same order of magnitude in Q4?

Speaker 1

Roger, I would say for Q4, that's probably the case. Q1 is always a little bit of an elevated number, because we do a lot of gift cards through large box retailers. And so Q1 tends to have outsized advertising expense with the other quarters generally being similar in nature to each other. And so yes, for Q4, I'd say probably 2% give or take is a good estimate.

Speaker 3

Okay. And lastly, your best guess in terms of store level margins in this current quarter, How do you think they'll look or what's your best guess as to what it might look compared to the quarter just ended, the 14 ks and the 16 ks?

Speaker 1

Yes, certainly. Seasonally, this Q3 tends to be from a sales standpoint, the highest volume quarter of the fiscal year. And so I think just in terms of some sales deleverage that's a result of seasonality, we'll see a little bit of compression. I expect generally speaking that margins will that the margin trend year over year will be similar to what we saw this quarter.

Speaker 3

The margin trend being how do you could you

Speaker 1

Well, so let me

Speaker 3

I think it just Well, so let me Go ahead.

Speaker 1

I think Sure. I think from a cost of sales standpoint, we'll see a little bit of elevation in cost of sales. I think labor will be a little bit elevated, but the other costs will be rather similar.

Speaker 3

Got it. Got it. Okay, good. All right. Good luck.

Speaker 3

You're doing it making some good progress. So good to see. So that's all I've got for now. Thank you.

Speaker 1

Thanks again, Roger.

Speaker 2

There are no further questions at this time. You do have a question from Mark Schuler.

Speaker 1

Hi, Ryan. Great quarter.

Speaker 4

Just a quick could you give us an update on where things stand with things that are in the development pipeline right now?

Speaker 1

Sure. So we have we are at the final stages of negotiating a lease in the Greater Charlotte DMA. And while things can always fall apart and I'll caveat it with that, we do have one lease that's very, very close. We would expect that that if we're able to get that across the finish line, we would be able to open that probably late fiscal Q2 of 2025, possibly early fiscal Q3. So I'd say in the late March, April timeline of next year.

Speaker 1

And then we have some other LOIs and markets that we're looking at. I would say our current cadence is generally one every 12 months approximately, maybe a second one. That said, we have enough CapEx allocated towards our remodels at Good Times that we think is really important to reinvest in our existing restaurants. And our general approach around conservatism with respect to debt that we think won over the next 12 months will be sufficient.

Speaker 4

Okay. Thank you. And then just kind of a follow-up on your mentioning the possibility of some closures. I mean, are we talking a couple or are we talking more than that kind of thing that you're potentially looking at?

Speaker 1

I think we're talking very low single digits. And I think there's not really anything there in terms of like, oh, this is that we're going to close massive amounts of stores, but rather just to kind of alert our investors, hey, we may be closing 1 or 2, and that's not an indication of anything bad. It's just an indication of smart and timely real estate management. Okay. Appreciate it.

Speaker 1

Great quarter. Thanks again.

Speaker 2

Your final question will come from David Schwartz.

Speaker 5

Yes, thanks for taking my question. So on the last following up on the last question on your comments earlier, are some of the lowest performing stores currently unprofitable on a 4 wall basis, meaning have they been actually detracting from profitability?

Speaker 1

So, yes. The store 2 that we are considering closing are negative restaurant, what we would call internal restaurant level cash flow, what I think we say in the investment community is restaurant level operating profit. So for those individual stores, they're negative contributors. And ultimately, while some a couple of them may have a little bit of life left on the leaf, The goal would be that ultimately closing those become income accretive.

Speaker 3

Okay. Thanks again and thanks for all the information on today's call.

Speaker 1

Thanks David. Thanks David.

Speaker 2

There are no further questions at this time. I'll go ahead and turn the call back over to Ryan.

Speaker 1

I am very optimistic about the future for both brands. We have exciting initiatives that will translate into both guest and employee engagement at both concepts and our strong operating momentum is promising. These improvements are driven by our team members, managers and leaders throughout our company whose focus on hospitality, customer service and pride in their work and in our concepts is evident every shift of every day. I want to again thank you all for joining us today.

Speaker 2

Thank you for your participation. This does conclude today's conference. You may now

Speaker 3

disconnect.

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