Olympic Steel Q2 2024 Earnings Call Transcript

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August 2, 2024

There are 7 speakers on the call.

Operator

Good morning, and welcome to the Olympic Steel 20 24 Second Quarter Financial Results Conference Call. At this time, all participants are in a listen only mode. A question and answer session will follow the formal presentation. Please note this conference is being recorded. At this time, I would like to hand the conference call over to Rich Manson, Chief Financial Officer at Olympic Steel.

Operator

Please go ahead, sir.

Speaker 1

Thank you, operator. Welcome to Olympic Steel's earnings call for the Q2 of 2024. Our call this morning will be hosted by our Chief Executive Officer, Rick Marabito and we will also be joined by our President and Chief Operating Officer, Andrew Greiff. Before we begin, I have a few reminders. Some statements made on today's call will be predictive and are intended to be made as forward looking within the Safe Harbor provisions of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995 and may not reflect actual results.

Speaker 1

The company does not undertake to update such statements, changes in assumptions or changes in other factors affecting such forward looking statements. Important assumptions, risks, uncertainties and other factors that could cause actual results to differ materially are set forth in the company's reports on Forms 10 ks and 10 Q and the press releases filed with the Securities and Exchange Commission. During today's discussion, we may refer to adjusted net income per diluted share, EBITDA and adjusted EBITDA, which are all non GAAP financial measures. A reconciliation of these non GAAP measures to the most directly comparable GAAP financial measures is provided in the press release that was issued last night and can be found on our website. Today's live broadcast will be archived and available for replay on the Olympic Steel's website.

Speaker 1

At this time, I'll turn the call over to Rick.

Speaker 2

Thank you, Rich, and good morning, everyone. Thank you for joining us today to discuss Olympic Steel's 2024 Second Quarter Results. I'll begin by summarizing our results for the Q2, how all three of our segments delivered profitable results despite a challenging pricing environment. And I'll talk about how our diversified offerings and end products, a richer higher margin mix of flat roll products and additional fabrication capabilities are all helping to drive that profitability. Andrew will then review our segment performance and following that, Rich will discuss our financial results in more detail.

Speaker 2

And then as always, we'll open up the call for your questions. Olympic Steel's ability to deliver solid results at a time when the steel industry is facing significant pricing pressure is a true testament to the success of our diversification strategy. For perspective, the hot rolled index pricing fell 22% during the Q2 alone and 39% since the beginning of the year. Despite this challenging pricing environment, we increased our shipping volume and reported sales of $526,000,000 with net income of $15,000,000 $22,000,000 of EBITDA. Our teams continue to drive profitability across all three of our business segments.

Speaker 2

Our efforts to grow and expand in manufactured products, higher margin flat rolled products, including coated carbon and additional fabrication capabilities have strengthened our business and make us more resilient to market downturns and pricing pressures. We continue to proactively identify and evaluate additional opportunities for growth, especially in higher return product lines that further our diversification strategy. We're in an excellent financial position to make these investments with more than $340,000,000 in borrowing availability under our existing credit facility. Later in the call, Rich will highlight how we're investing in new equipment and CapEx. Additionally, our team has an impressive track record of acquiring well run businesses that are the right fit for Olympic Steel as well as successfully integrating these companies post acquisition.

Speaker 2

We hope to continue to build on this success as we've seen M and A opportunities increasing as the year progresses. Looking ahead to the second half of twenty twenty four, we remain focused on profitability and delivering on our disciplines around working capital and operating efficiencies. While we expect market conditions to remain challenging in the near term, we are optimistic about the future of the domestic metals industry and remain confident that Olympic Steel is positioned to navigate short term pressures to deliver consistent results for our shareholders. Before I turn the call over to Andrew, I'd like to mention that we published our latest corporate responsibility report in June and that can be found on our website. We are indeed proud of our progress and commitments in areas such as safety, team and culture and environmental responsibility.

Speaker 2

I also want to take a moment to celebrate our incredible team and another milestone. 2024 marks the 70th anniversary of Olympic Steel's formation in Cleveland, Ohio. I'm so proud of the company and the culture we've built together. We're stronger than ever because our team and their dedication to our organization, to our customers and business partners and to our shareholders. I'll now turn the call over to Andrew.

Speaker 3

Thank you, Rick, and good morning, everyone. As Rick mentioned, we had a profitable quarter with all three segments contributing to our solid results. We continue to see that our diversification strategy has made Olympic Steel a stronger and more resilient company. Our addition of value added end product manufacturing companies provides a countercyclical benefit during falling metals pricing markets. Now I'll provide some detail on each segment's results.

Speaker 3

1st in our Carbon segment, we continued to face challenging market conditions in the Q2 because of the pricing pressures we have noted as well as softer than anticipated demand from some larger OEM customers. The good news is that the team was able to grow the business despite this pressure on pricing and demand. Carbon shipping volumes improved 1.2 percent year over year and 4.3% sequentially from the Q1 of 2024. The Carbon segment also led the way in profitability, generating $9,500,000 in EBITDA in the Q2 of 2024. Our end product manufacturing companies had a strong quarter, increasing their EBITDA margins as their cost of goods sold fell as metal pricing declined.

Speaker 3

Again, highlighting the countercyclical benefit to profitability of our end product manufacturing capabilities. Also critical to our success is the continued expansion of our coated business, which has a higher gross margin profile than base hot rolled carbon steel. In the first half of twenty twenty four, our coated shipments increased 32% versus a 3% increase for the industry. Coated products now represents 12% of our overall product mix. We are continuing to win new fabrication business.

Speaker 3

Led by Max Fitzgerald, our new fabrication team structure and consistency of process are accelerating growth that provides margin stability during periods of falling metals pricing. Our expanded fabrication capabilities also add market growth potential and the outsourcing of labor and supply chain dynamics in this post COVID economy. The Pipe and Tube segment posted solid results in the Q2 of 2024 with adjusted EBITDA of $7,700,000 including an 8.5% increase in shipping volume year over year. Our strategy to expand our value added services has increased our margins and allowed us to maintain profitability in declining hot rolled steel markets. The integration of Central Tube and Bar continues to go well and that business will continue to help drive our pipe and tube margins going forward.

Speaker 3

Our legacy pipe and tube business and the central tube and bar facility continue to enhance their production capabilities, which services the value added portion of our business. During the first half of twenty twenty four, our CTI operation in Romeoville, Illinois added a new 6 axis tube laser and CTB is slated to add a new tube laser in the Q3 of 2024. Our ability to provide quick turnaround of quality fabricated parts has enabled us to win more of this business, furthering our growth and higher return strategy. The Specialty Metals segments experienced its best quarter for both volume and profitability since the Q1 of 2023. Shipping volumes during the Q2 of 2024 increased 10.4% year over year and 6% sequentially from the Q1 of 2024.

Speaker 3

The segment contributed $8,800,000 of EBITDA during the quarter. Overall, we are pleased with the team's ability to win new business and deliver profitable results in a challenging environment. As we navigate an uncertain market in the second half of twenty twenty four, we will continue to focus on the things we can control, operating expense and inventory discipline along with superior customer service will remain at the forefront. Now I'll turn the call over to Rich.

Speaker 1

Thank you, Andrew. As you heard from Rick and Andrew, all three segments contributed to our profitability despite the challenging market conditions. Our Q2 results reflect the impact of our diversification strategy and our team's continued execution of our operating disciplines. Before I discuss the results in more detail, I want to remind everyone that year over year comparisons are impacted by the October 2023 acquisition of Central Tube and Bar, whose results are included in our Pipe and Tube segment. For the Q2, net income totaled $7,700,000 compared with $15,000,000 in the Q2 of 2023.

Speaker 1

EBITDA in the quarter was $22,300,000 compared with $32,200,000 in the prior year period. Both the Q2 of 20242023 include $1,000,000 of LIFO pre tax income. Consolidated operating expenses for the 2nd quarter totaled $104,600,000 compared with $101,600,000 in the Q2 of 2023. Our Q2 operating expenses reflect the addition of Central Tuben Bar, which does not report tons sold. Therefore, operating expenses per ton at the consolidated level and for the Pipe and Tube segment will appear higher year over year.

Speaker 1

As a reminder, we do not report tons sold from McCullough Industries, EZ Dumper, Metal Fab, Shaw Stainless or the entire Pipe and Tube segment. Consolidated operating expenses for the Q2 included $4,000,000 of CTB operating expenses and $1,800,000 of lower incentive expenses when compared with the Q2 of 2023. Our effective borrowing rate in the Q2 of 2024 is also higher due to the expiration of our interest rate hedge. We ended the quarter with total debt of $209,000,000 an increase from $190,000,000 at year end. This increase was driven by our need to fund higher levels of working capital during the first half of twenty twenty four.

Speaker 1

We continue to more than $340,000,000 in additional borrowing availability to support investments in higher return opportunities. Our capital expenditures for the first half of twenty twenty four totaled $13,200,000 compared with depreciation of $11,800,000 Equipment lead times remain long and we've estimated that 2024 capital expenditures will be approximately $30,000,000 as we continue to make investments in automation, fabrication and equipment that results in higher gross margin opportunities and more consistent results. As noted in our earnings release last night, we recently ordered 2 new cuttle length lines in 1 high speed slitter to further expand our efforts in our coated and specialty metals product lines. The majority of the cash flow associated with those expenditures will occur in 2025 early 2026. During the first half of twenty twenty four, we added additional leased flat rolled laser capacity in our Cleveland operation and leased tube laser capacity in our Romeoville location.

Speaker 1

We will add additional leased tube laser capacity at CTB during Q3 of 2024. The leasing of these value added laser lines is not reflected in our CapEx numbers, but are included in our operating expenses. Our Q2 2024 effective income tax rate was 28.4% compared to 30.3% in the same period last year. We expect our 2024 tax rate to approximate 28% to 29%. In addition, we paid a quarterly dividend of $0.15 per share in the 2nd quarter.

Speaker 1

Our Board of Directors approved our next regular quarterly cash dividend of $0.15 per share, which is payable on September 16, 2024 to shareholders on record as of September 2, 2020 4. The company has now paid regular quarterly dividends dating back to 2,006 increasing the dividend in each of the last 3 years. As we look ahead, we continue to be optimistic about our ability to deliver consistent profitable results at the segment and enterprise levels. We've expanded into higher margin, higher value added opportunities and as a result, we've been able to grow the business with existing customers and win new customers. We also remain in a strong operational and financial position to continue to invest in our future.

Speaker 1

We are part of our team that is focused on controlling what we can control and delivering value for our customers and our shareholders. Operator, we are now ready for questions.

Operator

Thank you. We will now be conducting a question and answer session. Our first question comes from Samuel McKinney with KeyBanc. Please proceed.

Speaker 4

Hey, good morning guys.

Speaker 3

Good morning, Sam.

Speaker 4

Starting in Pipe and 2, great gross margins this quarter around 34% despite the lower sales. They've now been above 30% for 6 quarters in a row. What drove the uptick in 2nd quarter gross margins despite those lower sales? And do you think margins can hang in that 33%, 34% range as you continue to glean more benefits from fabrication, automation and customer outsourcing?

Speaker 3

Sam, this is Andrew. So the answer is yes. It's been a strategy for our CTI group to continue to grow in the fabrication part of the business. We are investing in more fabrication equipment. We do expect that those margins will be there and probably grow.

Speaker 3

And it's really part of our downstream strategy to do more value added. We are still very interested in the distribution of the pipe and tube, but certainly the growth part of it has come into the fabrication side.

Speaker 2

Yes. And I think the other piece is the acquisition of CTB last year. They've certainly got a strong margin profile.

Speaker 4

Balance sheet, inventory value on the balance sheet stayed pretty similar despite the steep pricing declines during the Q2 that you called out in the release. Assuming that that sequential steadiness is more of a function of volume, how do you view your current inventory levels against lead times headed into the back half of the year?

Speaker 1

Sam, it's Rich. I'll take the value first. And so I think what you saw in the second quarter, really it's not an increase in quantity. What it was, was a flip really between stainless stainless surcharges went up 15% during the quarter. So you saw higher value of stainless inventory, while carbon inventory values went down.

Speaker 1

I'll turn it over to Andrew for the other part of the question.

Speaker 3

Yes, Sam. So I think the inventory level is at an appropriate level. I think that there's a little bit more work that we certainly can do as we get through the Q3 into the Q4, but I think the inventory level is appropriate.

Speaker 4

Okay. Thanks guys. That's it for me.

Speaker 2

Thanks Sam.

Operator

Thank you. The next question comes from Dave Storns with Stonegate. Please proceed.

Speaker 5

Good morning.

Speaker 1

Good morning, Dave.

Speaker 5

Just hoping volumes are up real nicely, it looks like. Just hoping wondering if you have any thoughts around any pricing outlook. There's any kind of green shoots that you're starting to see, maybe inventory levels industry wide, change in bidding environment, any momentum in the stock market, anything like that?

Speaker 1

David, it's Rich. And so what we would tell you is that as we pointed out in the release and in our comments that Q2 hot rolled pricing declined about 20%. We've seen that decline a little further here into July. That's really on the pricing side. But what we've continued to see from a demand side is that we're performing better year over year.

Speaker 1

I think what you saw in the Q2 as well as the first half is that we were up about 2% year over year. We expect that to continue that trend to continue into the Q3. But that's what we're seeing in the volume and we saw a nice jump up Q2 versus Q1 sequentially.

Speaker 5

Understood. Thank you. And then just on coated for carbon, what's the outlook for this going forward through the back half of twenty twenty four? Is there an optimal, call it percent of carbon that you would like us to take up by the end of 2024? Just any outlook you have there would be helpful.

Speaker 3

Yes. So what I would say, Dave, is we've seen terrific growth. Mike Tukey runs our coated for Olympic. He's doing a great job. I would say that growth has been about 34% over last year.

Speaker 3

We expect to continue to see that through the balance of the year and actually see that accelerate as we get into 2025 as we continue to make head roads into construction in the HVAC markets.

Speaker 5

Understood. Thanks for taking the questions and good luck in 3Q.

Operator

Thank you. Thanks, Dave. The next question comes from Chris Sakai with Singular Research. Please proceed.

Speaker 6

Hi, good morning.

Speaker 3

Hi, Chris.

Speaker 6

I wanted to talk about I guess, this pricing is facing some headwinds. How is that affecting M and A valuations? Is it decreasing them?

Speaker 2

Hi, Chris, it's Rick. Really good question. I think valuations remain pretty steady in our industry. I think the real trick to valuations is looking over a performance cycle, the ups and downs in pricing and trying to look at a company's value over that cycle. That's how we tend to look at it.

Speaker 2

So certainly in the short term with some pricing pressure as you've seen in the steel industry the last couple of quarters, the earnings have been a little bit compressed. But what I'd tell you is, at least our approach on M and A, we're looking for really good well run companies that are consistently profitable that have consistently high return models and looking at those companies and considering where pricing in the market is certainly part of the valuation, but it's really more important to look at how they perform over the cycle. So I think on M and A, we're active. We've been active the last 5 years. We've seen the activity and the flow pick up in the Q2 and certainly continue to have that part as we mentioned in our comments.

Speaker 2

Certainly consider M and A to be part of our growth strategy.

Speaker 6

Okay. Thanks. And then in this type of environment, is there any specific part of the business that you're focusing on more or that's performing better than the others? And which would that be and why?

Speaker 3

Well, so Chris, this is Andrew. What I would say is fabrication has become a big growth strategy for us. We have seen post COVID the opportunities really explode, in particular from the industrial OEMs, the opportunities to be able to supply as they are looking for a finished product that can go right into assembly. And we've seen an acceleration of not only opportunities, but picking up some fairly significant business. But I would also tell you that in all three of our segments, there is there are pockets of business that are starting to improve.

Speaker 3

On the specialty side, we're seeing a nice improvement in the food equipment of the truck trailer, the appliance side of the business and our pipe and tube where we're making some nice inroads with data centers. And then our carbon business, again, from a fabrication perspective, that's been pretty big. And we've seen some of the other industrials coming back a little bit. So we're pleased for all three segments with what we're seeing.

Speaker 1

And Chris, it's Rich. I would add that in periods of time where pricing may compress the distribution margins, you're seeing us expand the margins on our end manufactured products as their cost of goods sold come down in these periods and that was

Speaker 2

a nice balance in the Q2. Yes, exactly. I think Chris what you've seen is, and the evidence was there and we talked about it a little bit, really a nice balance in all three of our business segments. And that's really the fruition of very strategic initiatives that we've taken over the years. Andrew has talked about the fabrication.

Speaker 2

Rich just talked about the end products and the offset and the countercyclicality of that. Certainly, we just talked about the mix within our carbon division of moving to more of the coated products. So we talked about acquisitions like in the pipe and tube, we had a question about the margins and the CTB acquisition. And keeping our expenses and keeping our expenses really in line and turning our inventory. So that's it and that's what we're focused on and we're going to continue to focus on that.

Speaker 6

Okay, great. Thanks for the answers.

Speaker 1

Thanks, Chris.

Operator

Thank you. At this time, I would like to turn the floor back over to Mr. Rick Narubito for closing comments.

Speaker 2

Thank you so much and thank you everybody for joining us on the call this morning. We appreciate your continued interest in Olympic Steel and we look forward to speaking with you again next quarter if not sooner. Thank you. Have a great day.

Operator

Thank you. This does conclude today's teleconference. You may disconnect your lines at this time. Thank you for your participation and have a great day.

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