KULR Technology Group Q2 2024 Earnings Call Transcript

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August 12, 2024

There are 3 speakers on the call.

Operator

Welcome everyone to the Cooler Technology Group Second Quarter 2024 Earnings Call.

Operator

Cooler Technology Group is traded on the New York Stock Exchange under the ticker symbol KULR. In just a moment, I will be joined by the CEO of the company, Michael Moe as well as by the CFO of the company, Sean Cantor. As usual, like the calls in the past, today's call will cover opening comments from both Michael Moe and Sean Kantor, and then it will be followed by a Q and A session where the company representatives will answer questions that were emailed in to the company for this call. Now before we get started on the call, we do need to cover the Safe Harbor statements. This call does not constitute an offer to sell or solicitation of offers to buy any securities of any entity.

Operator

This call contains certain forward looking statements based on the company's current expectations, forecasts and assumptions that involve risks and uncertainties. Forward looking statements made on this call are based on information available to the company as of the date hereof. The actual results may differ materially from those stated or implied in such forward looking statements due to risks and uncertainties associated with their business, which include risk factors disclosed in their Form 10 ks filed with the Securities and Exchange Commission on April 12, 2024, as may be amended or supplemented by other reports the company files with the Securities and Exchange Commission from time to time. Forward looking statements include statements regarding their expectations, beliefs, intentions or strategies regarding the future and can be identified by forward looking statements such as anticipate, believe, could, estimate, expect, intend, may, should and would or similar words. All forecasts are provided by management made on this call are based on the information available to them at this time and management expects that internal projections and expectations may change over time.

Operator

In addition, the forecasts are entirely on management's best estimate of their future financial performance given their current contracts, current backlog of opportunities with conversations and conversations with new and existing customers about their products and services. The company assumes no obligation to update the information included on this call whether as a result of new information, future events or otherwise. With that, I'll turn over the call to Michael Moe. Michael, the call is yours.

Speaker 1

Thank you, Stuart. This is Michael Moe. Thanks to everyone for joining us today. I'd like to go over some of the financial and operational highlights. In Q2 2024, we achieved revenue of $2,430,000 up 39% sequentially from Q1.

Speaker 1

Engineering service revenue increased 76% year over year to approximately 1,300,000 a record full quarter. Total paying customer number increased 42% year over year to 27. Percent. Service revenue customer increased 100% year over year to 14% and product revenue customer increased 45% year over year to 15%. In Q2, Cordar made significant investments to enhance the capabilities and talent within our Battery Center of Excellence located in Webster, Texas.

Speaker 1

These investments are critical to our goal of driving revenue growth by providing comprehensive, enhanced product and service solutions that span the entire lifecycle of battery design, testing, prototyping and volume production all under one roof. I believe we are well positioned to resume year over year revenue growth in second half of twenty twenty four with our new customer wins. During this quarter, we moved into our new state of the art 17,500 Square Foot facility. This expanded space was designed specifically to meet the growing demands of our battery design and testing contracts supporting key industries such as aerospace, defense, electric mobility and space exploration. This space is approximately 2.1 miles from NASA Johnson Space Center and is next to companies like Axiom Space, Leidos, Blue Origin and many others.

Speaker 1

It's an ideal location to provide a one stop shop for rapid turnaround design, testing and production service to the surrounding ecosystem of aerospace customers. We now have vast majority of our battery engineering team in Webster, Texas to perform 3 key functions: battery cell and pack level testing, battery design and analysis, and battery production and engineering services. Our battery design testing capabilities are a key factor in establishing our credibility in understanding and mitigating thermal runaway in lithium ion batteries. We have accumulated extensive data on various cell chemistries, formats and their reaction to different triggers. This growing data set directly informs ongoing improvements to the quarter 1 architecture.

Speaker 1

The impact of this work is already evident in this quarter as we secured a contract from top Japanese automaker for testing and analysis of high energy battery cells for the next generation electric vehicles. Once we complete our cooler Texas facility build out by the end of Q3, we estimate our testing service capacity at approximately $2,000,000 per quarter. These services include the NASA, NASA's award winning FERC test as well as various self impactable abuse thermal runaway tests. These are high margin services that leads us to design better and safer batteries for our customers. Our battery design and analysis capabilities are a key differentiator.

Speaker 1

We assemble a team of seasoned design experts complemented by advanced computer modeling and analysis tools, allow us to deliver cutting edge solutions in this critical area. In addition to our proprietary products and components such as Thermal Runaway Shield and ISC trigger cells, we continue to provide and develop new technologies for thermal runaway cell body heating protection and ejector mitigation. At the system level, we have developed Kuder's own radiation tolerant battery management system for our space exploration customers. We're incorporating all these capabilities into design analysis process to build a more robust quarter 1 space, QuarterOne Guardian and QuarterOne Air Batteries. In Q2, we also expanded our battery production capabilities, Being a one stop shop for our Q1 space and Q1 Guardian customers is a big competitive advantage for us as these customers require speed and quality.

Speaker 1

We enhanced our infrastructure by integrating our expert fabrication and assembly teams with on-site precision machine, which allows us to scale production quickly and efficiently. As you know, our service revenue is an early indication of potential product revenue As we achieve record engineering service revenue for Q2, we're preparing for these service customers to go into prototype and production build in the near future. This is why we have been carefully and strategically investing in our production capabilities to bring 1 stop shop service to our customers. A big driver for our service revenue and our motivation to invest in these capabilities is the cooler one space market opportunity. The space economy is going to be $1,800,000,000,000 by 2,035 according to McKinsey.

Speaker 1

This is driven by commoditization of the space industry. The space battery market is estimated to grow to 6.3 5,000,000,000 by 2,030. We expect our Q1 on 1 space platform to play an important role in this market.

Operator

Some of

Speaker 1

the key players in driving this tremendous growth in the space economy include the rapidly growing private companies such as SpaceX of Blue Origin, continued growth of the traditional government prime contractors such as Boeing, North and Grumman to new and upcoming companies like Voyager Space, Axiom and Vest, many of these are already core customers. During Q2, we made significant investments in the technology readiness level of our COURA-one space battery architecture, which has already been utilized by Voyager Space and other partners for the upcoming missions. The Kula-one space architecture is a scalable, safety first battery design developed with the goal of achieving NASA JSC 20,793 certification for human spaceflight applications. Our efforts in Q2 also focus on commercialization of the quarter 1 space architecture to meet the specific mission requirements of the cubesat and smallsat industries. The first off the shelf commercial version of the CUDA 1 space is a 200 watt hour version that will be available in fall of 2024.

Speaker 1

This off the shelf solution is engineered to deliver an optimum balance of performance, quality, safety and cost advantage positioning at the industry level. These developments underscore our commitment to provide advanced battery solutions to meet the rigorous demand of the space exploration market and beyond. Next to Correvive. In addition to the traditional helicopter and drone delivery markets, we see good opportunity to apply Correvive to computer server fans and industrial fan applications. As AI demand exponentially more computing power and energy consumption, so does the need for cooling with both air and liquid thermal systems.

Speaker 1

For air cooling, fan performance is critical to drive enough airflow to cool the latest AI GPUs. Fan performance is limited by the vibration and motor speed. By removing vibration, KONOVYTE can make bandwidth at higher speed with less energy, less noise and generate more airflow, therefore providing more cooling to the AI chips. According to Morgan Stanley, the liquid cooling system for NVIDIA's GB200 Blackwell high end rack cost more than $80,000 about 15 to 20 times the cost of an air cooling system for an existing rack of NVIDIA H100 chips. More than 95% of the current data centers use air cooling because of its maturity and reliability.

Speaker 1

There lies our opportunity. We're working on fans used by Facebook's open compute project servers. We're also working on higher speed fans that can be used to cool the highest performance AI servers. We expect to report performance results and new customers in second half of twenty twenty four. Next, Sean Kientche will go over financial highlights.

Speaker 1

Sean?

Speaker 2

Thanks, Mike. Our Form 10 Q for the Q2 of 2024 is now available online. Please refer to it for more details. I'd like to highlight 3 themes that we are focused on. 1, growing revenue and relevant KPIs 2, spending less cash and 3, stronger balance sheet.

Speaker 2

This slide shows key cooler full year annual growth trends from 2021 to 2023. Total revenue up over 300 percent product revenue up over 3 60 percent service revenue up almost 2 20%, paying customers up 165%, revenue per customer up 54%. Houlard is a growing business. Here's the trailing 12 month revenue chart starting from the Q1 of 2021. As you can see, growth doesn't always happen in a straight line.

Speaker 2

When you get a perspective, you can see the growth trend. Trailing 12 months revenue since the Q1 of 2021 is up almost 900% through the Q2 of 2024. Going from a broader perspective, now let's zoom in. 2nd quarter versus the Q1 of 2024, revenue was up 39%. Cooler is using less cash.

Speaker 2

Comparing the 6 months ending June 2023 2024, cash used from operating activities is down 7%. Cash used in investing activities is down 82% for a combined cash use reduction of 13%. Kooler's balance sheet comparing the end of 2023 to the end of June 2024, cash plus accounts receivable up 40%, liabilities down 42%. Cooler's balance sheet is getting stronger. Back to you, Stuart.

Operator

All right. Thank you for that. Now let's move on to the question and answer portion of the call. Here is the first question submitted by one of your shareholders. Regarding bills HR1797 and S.

Operator

1008, setting consumer standards for Lithium Ion Batteries Act and with Representative Ritchie Torres as the sponsor, it seems like Cooler fits perfectly to be the leading candidate for this bill. Can you give us any information regarding this bill and whether Cooler is a top candidate? Also, is Cooler building the new cathode for Tesla in the cyber truck? So a detailed question right there. I'll put it to both of you and see who wants to answer it.

Speaker 1

All right, Stuart. I'll take that. Yes, this is Michael Moe. We have engaged with various stakeholders in this area, including our departments, HazMat teams, local officials and national organizations offering our expertise on thermal runaway mitigation. So our response to the challenge has been multifaceted.

Speaker 1

We provide 10 key packs battery packs to build in thermal runaway protection assist other battery design teams ensuring business as they're safe from obligation for SafeCage as a solution for safely storing and transportation of batteries, so regardless of their starting point. So it's crucial for first responders as well as customers in automotive, aviation, defense and aerospace sectors who prioritize safety. We hope this legislation continues to some efforts, which specific details have not been fully released yet as far as we know. And also, can you comment on the new capital development for the Tesla cyber application?

Operator

Okay. I just want to clarify that last part. There was just a little bit of interference and you said you cannot or you can comment on the new cathodes?

Speaker 1

Cannot. Cannot.

Operator

Understood. Okay, great. Let's move on to the next question. Over the last year, we haven't heard much about Cooler Vibe. As this is a software based solution, it would seem like a low cost way for companies to save money and Cooler to generate revenue.

Operator

Why hasn't Cooler found more success here? And can you demonstrate actual cost savings to present to potential clients? Thinking in terms of energy saved to run a data center fan or fuel saved to fly business. The use cases here seem very large.

Speaker 1

And also I'll take that as well. So we see good opportunity to apply CoreLive to server bands and industrial applications. So by removing vibration, the band can run at higher speed with less energy, less voltage, more airflow and therefore providing more cooling to the chips. We're now working on fans used by Facebook's OCP, which is for open compute project servers. We're also working on higher speed fans that are used to cool high performance AI servers.

Speaker 1

So we hope to report results on the testing and also new customers in second half of twenty twenty five sorry, twenty twenty four.

Operator

Okay, great. Thank you for that, Michael. All right. So, Kooler is a small company and thus expanding manufacturing capacity of its product seems like a costly way to grow its business. Licensing your technology to OEMs seems like the best way to grow revenue.

Operator

How does this fit into your strategy going forward?

Speaker 1

So, Soren, being a one stop shop for our Qunovan space and Quniliman Guardian customer is a big competitive advantage for us. That's why we're investing in all the technical capabilities in our Texas facility. As for margin important customers, being fast and agile is very important to So KUDA frequently leverages with these companies and government groups that have their own design battery design capabilities. In these cases, Koolearner becomes a trusted partner for them for rapid testing and prototype, which introduce Koolearners expertise to new departments and also their next generation designs. So with entryway, groups will explore additional cooler offerings that complement their current design and also help them to accelerate their time to market.

Speaker 1

So it's very important for us.

Operator

All right. Next question. Can we expect Koolearn to announce its automotive partnership soon? If not, why and what happened? If so, then when?

Speaker 1

Yes. EV, I think we've stated for the EV market is not a good area for us for Q1 batteries because of its long lead time and also low margin. However, we are serving many of the automotive OEMs with our battery testing and safe case technology. So these are good business for us with high margins and good growth. We'll continue to serve the automotive market with these products and services.

Operator

All right. Next question then. What are the plans to reverse the decline in stock value that started over 3 years ago when the stock price reached $3.60 per

Speaker 1

share?

Speaker 2

I'll take that one, Stuart. It's Sean. It's an interesting question. And maybe to answer it, I'll start with a little bit of history. KULR first traded on the New York Stock Exchange American in June 2021, a little over 3 years ago.

Speaker 2

Since then, the high closing price for Kooler stock was $3.53 and that was in November 2021. In calendar year 2021, Kooler generated about $2,500,000 of revenue, in 2022 about $4,000,000 of revenue and in 2023, about $10,000,000 of revenue. So from 2021 to 2023, that's about a 300% growth in annual revenue. The markets Cooler serves have only grown since 2021. The demands for more energy intense batteries have only grown across the various segments that KUULR serves like space, military, industrial, electric vehicles, electric planes, electric drones.

Speaker 2

From an operational point of view, I think cooler is in the best position it's ever been in. Look, stocks go up and down for any number of reasons. I won't pretend to be able to predict the future. Management thinks Coolers in the best operational performance and customer satisfaction position it's ever been in. When does the stock price reflect that?

Speaker 2

I don't know. I would guess though that when it does, it will reflect a similar trend.

Operator

All right. Very good. Thank you for that, Sean. So next question. Will Cooler Management use cash via equity funding or borrowing from the bank to fund ongoing operations of the company until the end of the year?

Speaker 2

Why don't I take this one, Mike? As I highlighted in my prepared remarks, Cooler's balance sheet is getting stronger. We evaluate funding needs and opportunities through the lens of what serves KULR's operating requirements and keeps KULR on this trend of a stronger balance sheet. That's good for operations. It balances risk.

Speaker 2

And ultimately, those things are good for shareholders.

Operator

All right. So here's the next question. Can the company speak to its outreach to vehicle manufacturers? If the products are so great, why are they not the industry standard?

Speaker 1

Yes, Stuart. Being an industry standard takes a long time and it's hard. We are serving automotive customers with our battery testing and safe case technology, which we hope will become de facto standards over time. And these engagements allow Koolearn to sell more products and services to our Tier 1 automotive customers.

Operator

Next question. How does Cooler expect the future mass production of solid state batteries to impact the business?

Speaker 1

Yes. We are testing batteries of all countries and sizes for customers. So as more solid state batteries come to the market, we expect to do the same and also design them into our quarter 1 battery platform. So there should be a positive impact to our future growth.

Operator

Okay. Next question. In the Q1 earnings report, Kooler listed 34 customers. Understanding the constraints of NDAs, non disclosure agreements, can you share any customer names that we might not already know about? Additionally, please expand on any new customer engagements that might interest investors.

Speaker 1

Yes. So as we shared in our prepared remarks that we continue to grow our customer base, which is up 50% year over year this quarter. Many of them are some of the largest OEMs in the world and we're working with them on the next generation product platforms. So they think that we keep their confidentiality and then also do our best to speed their product development. And these developments are across space applications, common applications, energy storage applications.

Speaker 1

So it's very exciting time right now.

Operator

Okay. Thank you for that. Next question. How does the war in Europe and the Middle East impact the revenue of KULR?

Speaker 2

I'll take this one, Mike. So far, we haven't seen any negative impacts to our pipeline or supply chain that I'm aware of. We'll certainly continue to monitor what's going on and adapt accordingly. Our work with drone manufacturers regarding both batteries and vibration control may be implicated by what's going on in the world of course. As drones and artificial intelligence based mobile systems become more commonplace, the need for high powered, safer batteries and vibration control would seem to be growing.

Speaker 2

In fact, you might remember, Stuart, that this was referenced in a cooler press release, I think it was back in April about the Ukraine.

Operator

Yes, I do remember and thanks for pointing that out, Sean. And here comes the next question. Then in the Q1 earnings call, Kuler had a slide that listed private space stations in relation to the Kuler-one space product. Could you provide any details or is there anything that you can share on current or future space station projects?

Speaker 1

Yes, Stuart. We have customer designing private space stations with our battery technology. As a matter of fact, I think that different governments now are trying to do their own space stations in the subcontract that to private companies to do this. So we see many more applications actually in the space economy ecosystem to use a core one space, which is the space economy ecosystem is forecast to be $1,800,000,000,000 This is definitely a new market and it's growing very, very quickly. So we see huge opportunity in this.

Operator

All right. You guys will have to forgive my naivete here on this. That's from the shareholder. They wanted to preface their question with that. And they say, but can I see after reviewing the website, but I can see after reviewing the website that cooler products can be used in storage and transportation of batteries?

Operator

But can the company's products be used on batteries that are operating such as in cars that are in use? If so, can this help prevent car fires?

Speaker 1

I think this question from this, shareholder is about the safe case application for battery storage and transportation. Yes, they are used to store batteries during production, during the storage, the shipping and the recycling lifecycle of the battery. We are expanding the safe case application with fire departments and hazmat professionals around the country. So you see more and more of these adoptions of the technology across multiple battery applications.

Operator

Let's see. We have about 2 more questions here. So here's the second to last question. While investors have come to understand in general that you cannot disclose the company and contract values for most EV companies under NDA, There has been a lot of news about EV news released in the last couple of years. This has led to speculation among retail investors about who cooler is working with.

Operator

Can you give us the tiniest taste of excitement by telling us the number of automakers you are working with?

Speaker 1

So we have some of these customer engagements. I think we talked about top automotive OEM in the world. So that will be Japanese and German automotive OEMs. So talked about the number one automaker in the U. S.

Speaker 1

And we talked about the number one electric SUV maker in the U. S. So that kind of recap should give our shareholders some idea about who we're working with.

Operator

So here is our final question. It has to do with something Sean Kantor mentioned. Here's the question. Sean Kantor mentioned in November 2023 YouTube interview that the service business can be seen as foreshadowing future product sales opportunities. Can you share any specific examples from Q2 where service business engagements have led to or are expected to lead to future product sales?

Speaker 2

I think this one already has my name on it. We are starting to ship sample Cooler One space batteries and cells to customers. These are the results of our design service engagements with customers throughout 2023 and through the 1st part of 2024. We expect to see more of that in the second half of twenty twenty four and to ramp up in 2025, since these programs usually take about 12 months to 18 months of lead time to get to production? Thanks.

Operator

Well, excellent. That was the final question. I know I speak on behalf of both my guests today, Michael Moe and Sean Cantor, and expressing our gratitude for the shareholders and interested parties for sending in their questions. I will now turn the call back over to our operator to close out the call. Thank you.

Operator

This does conclude today's conference call and webcast. You may disconnect at this time and have a wonderful day. Thank you for your participation.

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