TSE:SCR Strathcona Resources Q2 2024 Earnings Report C$26.13 +1.04 (+4.15%) As of 04/17/2025 04:00 PM Eastern Earnings HistoryForecast Strathcona Resources EPS ResultsActual EPSC$1.43Consensus EPS N/ABeat/MissN/AOne Year Ago EPSN/AStrathcona Resources Revenue ResultsActual Revenue$992.90 millionExpected Revenue$978.00 millionBeat/MissBeat by +$14.90 millionYoY Revenue GrowthN/AStrathcona Resources Announcement DetailsQuarterQ2 2024Date8/13/2024TimeN/AConference Call DateWednesday, August 14, 2024Conference Call Time11:00AM ETConference Call ResourcesConference Call AudioConference Call TranscriptInterim ReportEarnings HistoryCompany ProfilePowered by Strathcona Resources Q2 2024 Earnings Call TranscriptProvided by QuartrAugust 14, 2024 ShareLink copied to clipboard.There are 7 speakers on the call. Operator00:00:00Good morning. My name is Lara, and I'll be your conference operator today. I would like to welcome everyone to the Q2 2024 Conference Call of Strathcona Resources Limited. All lines have been placed on mute to prevent any background noise. After the speakers' remarks, there will be a question and answer session. Operator00:00:33I now introduce Rob Morgan, President and CEO of Strathcona. You may begin your conference. Speaker 100:00:42Thank you, and good morning, everyone. Welcome to the Q2 2024 Conference Call of Strathcona Resources. As the operator mentioned, my name is Rob Morgan, President and CEO of Strathcona. And with me today is Conor Watrous, our Senior Vice President and CFO and Angie Lau, our Treasurer. Yesterday, Strathcona was pleased to release our second quarter results, Q2 2024 results and the news release, financial statements and MD and A, which are available on Strathcona's website as well as on SEDAR Plus. Speaker 100:01:12We encourage investors to read those documents in full and please take note of the advisories regarding forward looking information and non GAAP measures included therein. Production for the Q2 averaged approximately 182,000 BOE per day with funds from operations of $548,000,000 or $2.56 per share, capital expenditures of $297,000,000 resulting in free cash flow of $247,000,000 or $1.15 per share. Oil production for the Q2 was consistent with the Q1 at approximately 131,000 barrels per day. Oil sales volumes increased to approximately 130 5,000 barrels per day in the quarter due to a drawdown of inventory related to the commissioning of Strathcona's new crude by rail offloading facility on the U. S. Speaker 100:01:56Gulf Coast. At Cold Lake, we continue to make progress on debottlenecking projects that have resulted in an 8% reduction in our steam oil ratio compared to the same period in 2023, improving the efficiency of our operations. Production of natural gas was $237,000,000 per day, down 6% or approximately $16,000,000 per day from the Q1 due to planned and unplanned third party outages. Associated natural gas liquids production was essentially flat to the Q1 at approximately 11,500 barrels per day. At Kakwa, Strathcona has sanctioned our first pad to incorporate 2.5 mile horizontal laterals to more efficiently exploit our land base. Speaker 100:02:35These wells are expected to reduce costs by 10% on a per meter basis versus our previous 2 mile laterals. At Groundbridge, initial testing of our 3 new drills has indicated strong results comparable to our initial 2 wells. The wells have been tied in and are awaiting stronger natural gas prices to preserve the economics of our investment. As 3rd party outages have extended into the 3rd quarter along with a significant turnaround at one of our facilities late in Q3 and with the continued deferral of dry gas from our ground barge wells, Strathcona is reducing a year natural gas guidance by approximately 15,000,000 cubic feet per day, resulting in a revised corporate guidance range of 185,000 Boe per day to 190,000 Boe per day with an increased oil weighting of 72%. Our capital budget guidance remains at $1,300,000,000 As of June 30, Strathcona achieved our previously disclosed debt target of $2,500,000,000 As a result, Strathcona's Board of Directors has approved a quarterly base dividend of $0.25 per share payable on September 27 to shareholders of record on September 16. Speaker 100:03:40Going forward, Strathcona's run rate debt target remains at 2,500,000,000 dollars leaving 100 percent of excess free cash flow beyond the base dividend available for further shareholder returns or additional investment opportunities. On July 10, Strathcona was pleased to announce a first of its kind partnership with Canada Growth Fund to develop up to $2,000,000,000 in carbon capture infrastructure on Strathcona's thermal assets with a targeted FID for the first project in mid-twenty 25. We are excited to be a leader in the decarbonization of thermal oil production in Western Canada. Strathcona is also pleased to announce its 1st Investor Day to be held on Thursday, November 14th, coinciding with the release of our Q3 results. The Investor Day will provide shareholders with further details highlighting both our near and long term plans for our assets and to properly introduce additional members of the Strathcona team. Speaker 100:04:32Thank you very much for your time this morning and we'd be very pleased to answer any questions you may have. Operator00:04:39Thank you, Our first question comes from the line of Mino Khosha from TD Cowen. Go ahead please. Speaker 200:05:01Thanks and good morning everyone. I'll start with a question on the looming rail strike. Presumably, it's not going to last that long, but how could it potentially impact your 30,000 barrel per day crude by rail business and maybe even supply for inputs like diesel and what proactive steps have you taken to mitigate the overall risk? Speaker 300:05:26Sure. So it's something we've been super focused on. I've been in close contact with the folks from CN over the past couple of months to be as prepped as we can. The first thing to bear in mind is we've got about 2 to 3 weeks of available storage capacity at our various Lloyd thermal our various Lloyd thermal fields, which we will be able to use to effectively cushion the blow of a strike if it lasts in that 2 to 3 week timeframe. If the strike lasts longer than 2 to 3 weeks, we still have the option to effectively truck the vast majority of our Lloyd's thermal crude to various pipeline terminals and sell a blended crude until the CN strike end. Speaker 200:06:31Terrific. Thanks for that Connor. And then maybe the second question is on the CCS agreement that was reached with Canada Growth Fund during the quarter for up to $2,000,000,000 Can you just walk us through the next steps and key milestones that you hope to achieve over the next, say, 12 months or so as it relates to CGF specifically? And where is the risk in delivering on those milestones? Speaker 100:06:59So, thanks again for the question, Meno. Where we progress now and we've been looking at for quite some time, given the nature of where our assets are, particularly in Saskatchewan, where we do have access to sequestration report space there and basically support for ejection and sequestration of CO2. We expect that our first project likely will be in the province of Saskatchewan at this point and we are progressing with initial feed assessments. We actually have done some feed work previously on our Saskatchewan thermal assets. And so we'll progress through that over the next year or so, finalizing on both technology as well as the appropriate partners we would need for that project. Speaker 100:07:49We are working in partnership as you highlighted with Canada Growth Fund and there essentially will be a committee of individuals from Canada Growth Fund and Strathcona that will work through to get to essentially what will be our first funding agreement, which we expect will be in that mid-twenty 25 timeframe. So I think you can expect us to provide some updates as we go down this path. And we still are working with the Alberta government in terms of securing pore space in Alberta. But and we feel fairly confident that we should be able to get something resolved there as well and be progressing our decarbonization strategy both in Saskatchewan and our Alberta thermal projects. Speaker 200:08:33Thanks, Rob. I'll turn it back. Operator00:08:39Our next question comes from the line of Patrick O'Rourke from ATB Capital Markets. Go ahead please. Speaker 400:08:47Hey, good morning guys and congratulations on the inaugural dividend announcement there. I guess, sort of first question with respect to some of the commentary on go forward return on capital strategies, you've put the base dividend in place, looks pretty defensible, I think in the presentation down to $54 But with respect to sort of the $2,500,000,000 net debt target and the commentary around ad hoc decisions, sort of what how often you'll be looking at that? Will that be on a quarterly basis? And then appreciating that the opportunities for both growth and acquisitions might not necessarily coalesce with a specific quarter. Do you plan to go below that $2,500,000,000 at any point in time? Speaker 400:09:39Or can we expect sort of a cash sweep if there's no opportunities out there? Speaker 300:09:49Yes, sure. So on that front, Patrick, so the way that we've always thought about it is that we're still comfortable with a long term debt on the business of that $2,500,000,000 number that equates to about one times debt to cash flow of what we view as a mid cycle price of about $70 WTI. And of course based on that cash flow, cash flow that the business is forecasted to be making at anything close to the price levels that we're at now, there's certainly going to be a lot of excess free cash available beyond the quarter per quarter base quarterly cash dividend. And the way we have thought about the use of that cash flow going forward is that our first choice is always going to be able to is always going to be looking to find things to further grow the per share value of the business either on an organic or on a M and A basis. In the event that we can't find something like that to do, then it just makes sense to send that excess cash flow out to the owners of the business. Speaker 300:11:13In the short term, when our public float is small, unfortunately, a buyback is not going to make sense for us even though we think our even though at our current share price with a bigger public float, it certainly would. But in the short term, what that means is, we'll likely pay out a series of special dividends with the excess cash that is made. Importantly, we don't want a fixed quarterly formula and a series of quarterly special dividends. Instead, that might be something that's paid out at a one to 2 times per year based on what we see is the current and forecasted alternative forecasted all alternative uses of that cash. And in turn, what that will mean is that prior to getting to 1 of those 1 or 2 moments per year where we choose to pay out some form of special that the debt will fall sub that $2,500,000,000 at a level and in turn we will draw back up to it to fund that special. Speaker 400:12:43Okay, terrific. And then just a little bit more on the operational side, obviously some strong improvements in steam oil ratio at the Cold Lake projects there. Sort of looking at Lindbergh in the public data, it looks like it's below where its long term trend is. Tucker's maybe a little bit above. I know the netback advantages of the crude grade to over sort of the next 12 months, 24 months and what sort of the opportunities for improvement that are left are? Speaker 100:13:22For sure, Patrick. Thank you. So obviously, as we move towards filling our capacity and where we have the most available capacity today is in our Tucker asset. We've continued to reactivate some of the legacy operator drills that maybe were not optimum drills at the time, but now benefited from the fact that the steam chambers have matured. So we continue to bring those online. Speaker 100:13:48We've been pleased with the results of our first H East pad, first eight wells. We're drilling our C Central pad and that's again production will start to come online. So just by virtue of bringing that production into the capacity, we'll start to improve our steam oil ratio. And I think when we look at the longer term, we suggested that as an overall all three of our assets, we could get into that sub-four maybe mid-three category over the next sort of 24 months as we bring on those new wells and continue to optimize our lower steam well ratio wells. At Orion, Orion is primarily a Clearwater asset. Speaker 100:14:33The formation is the Clearwater, but we also have some upper Grand Rapids that typically has a lower steam oil ratio. We had some success on our G5 pad last year and have sanctioned our next pad pursuing that Upper Grand Rapids. So all little bits and pieces that over the course of the next we expect 24 months, we'll bring our steam oil ratio down and improve the overall thermal efficiency of the business on top of the already strong economics. Speaker 400:15:01Okay. Thank you very much. Operator00:15:06Our next question comes from the line of Greg Pardy from RBC Capital Markets. Go ahead please. Speaker 500:15:14Hi there. This is Rob Mann on for Greg Pardy and thanks for taking my question. Just one for me, I know you touched on the shareholder returns earlier with Patrick's question. So just on the production side of things, just given the deferral of some natural gas production from the ground birds pad, maybe you could just frame your outlook for natural gas in 2025 and maybe how you're thinking about production for next year? Thanks. Speaker 100:15:36Yes. So we expect or hope that there is some recovery in prices and maybe late this year, we'll be able to bring those ground burch wells on. We're very cognizant, particularly the ground burch being the dry gas, they're very prolific wells and so much of the rate of return of that investment is captured in basically the sort of initial 12 months. So we would like to see supportive gas prices 2.50 ish and above when we think if we're comfortable in that point, we'll bring the gas production on. And that will allow us to fill, we did do a modest expansion at that Ground Bridge facility to about 30,000,000 a day of capacity and that will allow us then to fill that capacity and we go forward in that. Speaker 100:16:19So that will add probably in the order of 15,000,000 a day, 20,000,000 a day of new production that we expect we could maintain with supportive prices in 2025. Beyond that, expectations of 2025, I think that's partly where we will highlight in our Investor Day presentation, not only our expectation for 2025, but how are how we see our growth plans over the next number of years play out as we look at the opportunity base we have in each of our assets. Speaker 500:16:53That's great. Thanks for your time. I'll turn it back. Speaker 100:16:58Thank you. Operator00:17:10Our next question comes from the line of Dennis Fong from CIBC World Markets. Go ahead please. Speaker 600:17:17Hi, good morning and thanks for taking my questions. My first one is maybe following along following on from Meadow's question on carbon capture and the next steps. With the mid-twenty 25 FID timing, can you talk towards your view of, we'll call it, cadence and capital associated with carbon capture infrastructure, the recovery of Fed capital spent via the investment tax credits and balancing that with returning free cash to shareholders over the next couple of years. And I've got a second one on operations. Thanks. Speaker 300:17:52Sure. So in terms of how we see the cadence of capital and the cadence of the build out of our carbon capture hubs in both the Lloyd side of the border and in Cold Lake. As Rob said previously, what we're hoping to do is reach FID on our first effectively pilot project on the carbon capture front in mid-twenty 25 to give you a very round number on the size of that. That might be around 200,000 tons per tons per year and in turn about $200,000,000 of gross capital spending. And then effectively assuming that hopefully goes well, that's going to be coming on in the early to mid-twenty 20 7 time frame. Speaker 300:18:45And then our hope would be to follow that up with a much bigger set of carbon capture projects to get to fully fill the total $2,000,000,000 partnership that we formed with the Canada Growth Fund folks over the subsequent couple of years. In terms of how that $200,000,000 of gross capital for our first pilot is going to be funded from Tropcona's perspective. The big picture math to think about is effectively $100,000,000 of that gets funded by the Canada Growth Fund folks and $100,000,000 from the federal carbon capture in investments, a tax credit and a few other small grants that Strathcona has earned over the past couple of years. The actual timing of the cash inflows and outflows will be such that all of the $100,000,000 from the Canada Growth Fund will effectively throw a flow through to fund their 50% share on a as needed basis as the project is built. And then on the tax credit piece, there might be a couple of quarter time lag prior to us being cash a cash taxpayer between when we spend the CapEx in the project and when we get the tax credit back from the federal government. Speaker 300:20:25Post us being a cash taxpayer in the 2027 plus timeframe, there will effectively be no lag in terms of when we earn the cash from the carbon capture tax credit. So in turn what that means for Strathcona and our and the Strathcona balance sheet is that effectively there should really be no burden or no net use of cash from us as we go to build these carbon capture assets and in turn, there should be no change to any kind of base or future special dividend for our shareholders. Speaker 600:21:19Great. I appreciate that context Connor. Shifting gears more to the operations side and focusing on development at Druid. Can you talk towards the potential on your existing land base to develop the Mandeville stack through multilateral wells? And can you also kind of touch on leveraging some of the expertise you view your team is having to optimize that asset base in the Lloyd region? Speaker 100:21:43Yes. Thanks for that, Dennis. I think we are fortunate where our assets are located that and it's always the benefit of having assets in this region is you have often that manville stack as part of your ongoing business. So certainly in the Druid area, we will drill our first well. I think every formation has unique characteristics and we just want to make certain that this technology, we've had some there's been a small amount of, I'll call, 2 leg wells that have been drilled here, But this is the first time that we'll get a little more into the pure multi leg technology. Speaker 100:22:25If that is successful, we think there could be a number of follow-up locations in Druid in the order of half a dozen to a dozen. I guess at this point in time, are other parts of the reservoir that we also want to assess the applicability of that technology. And then that will lead us to, I guess, the other parts of our asset base. And hopefully, as we get to the Investor Day, we'll be able to provide even more context of what the potential could be for Strathcona. Again, having those multiple mandrel horizons in a number of our assets. Speaker 600:23:01Thanks, Rob. Appreciate the context and also appreciate that you don't really want to front run your Investor Day in terms of the takeaways from there. I'll turn it back. Thanks. Operator00:23:14Thank you. There are no further questions at this time. I'd now like to turn the call back over to Mr. Morgan for any final closing comments. Speaker 100:23:23Well, I want to thank everyone for taking the time today and the great questions. And we look forward to seeing all of you not only for our Q3 conference call, but at our Investor Day in November. Thanks very much. Enjoy the rest of your summer and have a great day. Operator00:23:40Thank you, sir. Ladies and gentlemen, this concludes your conference call for today. We thank you for participating and ask that you please disconnect your line. 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There are 7 speakers on the call. Operator00:00:00Good morning. My name is Lara, and I'll be your conference operator today. I would like to welcome everyone to the Q2 2024 Conference Call of Strathcona Resources Limited. All lines have been placed on mute to prevent any background noise. After the speakers' remarks, there will be a question and answer session. Operator00:00:33I now introduce Rob Morgan, President and CEO of Strathcona. You may begin your conference. Speaker 100:00:42Thank you, and good morning, everyone. Welcome to the Q2 2024 Conference Call of Strathcona Resources. As the operator mentioned, my name is Rob Morgan, President and CEO of Strathcona. And with me today is Conor Watrous, our Senior Vice President and CFO and Angie Lau, our Treasurer. Yesterday, Strathcona was pleased to release our second quarter results, Q2 2024 results and the news release, financial statements and MD and A, which are available on Strathcona's website as well as on SEDAR Plus. Speaker 100:01:12We encourage investors to read those documents in full and please take note of the advisories regarding forward looking information and non GAAP measures included therein. Production for the Q2 averaged approximately 182,000 BOE per day with funds from operations of $548,000,000 or $2.56 per share, capital expenditures of $297,000,000 resulting in free cash flow of $247,000,000 or $1.15 per share. Oil production for the Q2 was consistent with the Q1 at approximately 131,000 barrels per day. Oil sales volumes increased to approximately 130 5,000 barrels per day in the quarter due to a drawdown of inventory related to the commissioning of Strathcona's new crude by rail offloading facility on the U. S. Speaker 100:01:56Gulf Coast. At Cold Lake, we continue to make progress on debottlenecking projects that have resulted in an 8% reduction in our steam oil ratio compared to the same period in 2023, improving the efficiency of our operations. Production of natural gas was $237,000,000 per day, down 6% or approximately $16,000,000 per day from the Q1 due to planned and unplanned third party outages. Associated natural gas liquids production was essentially flat to the Q1 at approximately 11,500 barrels per day. At Kakwa, Strathcona has sanctioned our first pad to incorporate 2.5 mile horizontal laterals to more efficiently exploit our land base. Speaker 100:02:35These wells are expected to reduce costs by 10% on a per meter basis versus our previous 2 mile laterals. At Groundbridge, initial testing of our 3 new drills has indicated strong results comparable to our initial 2 wells. The wells have been tied in and are awaiting stronger natural gas prices to preserve the economics of our investment. As 3rd party outages have extended into the 3rd quarter along with a significant turnaround at one of our facilities late in Q3 and with the continued deferral of dry gas from our ground barge wells, Strathcona is reducing a year natural gas guidance by approximately 15,000,000 cubic feet per day, resulting in a revised corporate guidance range of 185,000 Boe per day to 190,000 Boe per day with an increased oil weighting of 72%. Our capital budget guidance remains at $1,300,000,000 As of June 30, Strathcona achieved our previously disclosed debt target of $2,500,000,000 As a result, Strathcona's Board of Directors has approved a quarterly base dividend of $0.25 per share payable on September 27 to shareholders of record on September 16. Speaker 100:03:40Going forward, Strathcona's run rate debt target remains at 2,500,000,000 dollars leaving 100 percent of excess free cash flow beyond the base dividend available for further shareholder returns or additional investment opportunities. On July 10, Strathcona was pleased to announce a first of its kind partnership with Canada Growth Fund to develop up to $2,000,000,000 in carbon capture infrastructure on Strathcona's thermal assets with a targeted FID for the first project in mid-twenty 25. We are excited to be a leader in the decarbonization of thermal oil production in Western Canada. Strathcona is also pleased to announce its 1st Investor Day to be held on Thursday, November 14th, coinciding with the release of our Q3 results. The Investor Day will provide shareholders with further details highlighting both our near and long term plans for our assets and to properly introduce additional members of the Strathcona team. Speaker 100:04:32Thank you very much for your time this morning and we'd be very pleased to answer any questions you may have. Operator00:04:39Thank you, Our first question comes from the line of Mino Khosha from TD Cowen. Go ahead please. Speaker 200:05:01Thanks and good morning everyone. I'll start with a question on the looming rail strike. Presumably, it's not going to last that long, but how could it potentially impact your 30,000 barrel per day crude by rail business and maybe even supply for inputs like diesel and what proactive steps have you taken to mitigate the overall risk? Speaker 300:05:26Sure. So it's something we've been super focused on. I've been in close contact with the folks from CN over the past couple of months to be as prepped as we can. The first thing to bear in mind is we've got about 2 to 3 weeks of available storage capacity at our various Lloyd thermal our various Lloyd thermal fields, which we will be able to use to effectively cushion the blow of a strike if it lasts in that 2 to 3 week timeframe. If the strike lasts longer than 2 to 3 weeks, we still have the option to effectively truck the vast majority of our Lloyd's thermal crude to various pipeline terminals and sell a blended crude until the CN strike end. Speaker 200:06:31Terrific. Thanks for that Connor. And then maybe the second question is on the CCS agreement that was reached with Canada Growth Fund during the quarter for up to $2,000,000,000 Can you just walk us through the next steps and key milestones that you hope to achieve over the next, say, 12 months or so as it relates to CGF specifically? And where is the risk in delivering on those milestones? Speaker 100:06:59So, thanks again for the question, Meno. Where we progress now and we've been looking at for quite some time, given the nature of where our assets are, particularly in Saskatchewan, where we do have access to sequestration report space there and basically support for ejection and sequestration of CO2. We expect that our first project likely will be in the province of Saskatchewan at this point and we are progressing with initial feed assessments. We actually have done some feed work previously on our Saskatchewan thermal assets. And so we'll progress through that over the next year or so, finalizing on both technology as well as the appropriate partners we would need for that project. Speaker 100:07:49We are working in partnership as you highlighted with Canada Growth Fund and there essentially will be a committee of individuals from Canada Growth Fund and Strathcona that will work through to get to essentially what will be our first funding agreement, which we expect will be in that mid-twenty 25 timeframe. So I think you can expect us to provide some updates as we go down this path. And we still are working with the Alberta government in terms of securing pore space in Alberta. But and we feel fairly confident that we should be able to get something resolved there as well and be progressing our decarbonization strategy both in Saskatchewan and our Alberta thermal projects. Speaker 200:08:33Thanks, Rob. I'll turn it back. Operator00:08:39Our next question comes from the line of Patrick O'Rourke from ATB Capital Markets. Go ahead please. Speaker 400:08:47Hey, good morning guys and congratulations on the inaugural dividend announcement there. I guess, sort of first question with respect to some of the commentary on go forward return on capital strategies, you've put the base dividend in place, looks pretty defensible, I think in the presentation down to $54 But with respect to sort of the $2,500,000,000 net debt target and the commentary around ad hoc decisions, sort of what how often you'll be looking at that? Will that be on a quarterly basis? And then appreciating that the opportunities for both growth and acquisitions might not necessarily coalesce with a specific quarter. Do you plan to go below that $2,500,000,000 at any point in time? Speaker 400:09:39Or can we expect sort of a cash sweep if there's no opportunities out there? Speaker 300:09:49Yes, sure. So on that front, Patrick, so the way that we've always thought about it is that we're still comfortable with a long term debt on the business of that $2,500,000,000 number that equates to about one times debt to cash flow of what we view as a mid cycle price of about $70 WTI. And of course based on that cash flow, cash flow that the business is forecasted to be making at anything close to the price levels that we're at now, there's certainly going to be a lot of excess free cash available beyond the quarter per quarter base quarterly cash dividend. And the way we have thought about the use of that cash flow going forward is that our first choice is always going to be able to is always going to be looking to find things to further grow the per share value of the business either on an organic or on a M and A basis. In the event that we can't find something like that to do, then it just makes sense to send that excess cash flow out to the owners of the business. Speaker 300:11:13In the short term, when our public float is small, unfortunately, a buyback is not going to make sense for us even though we think our even though at our current share price with a bigger public float, it certainly would. But in the short term, what that means is, we'll likely pay out a series of special dividends with the excess cash that is made. Importantly, we don't want a fixed quarterly formula and a series of quarterly special dividends. Instead, that might be something that's paid out at a one to 2 times per year based on what we see is the current and forecasted alternative forecasted all alternative uses of that cash. And in turn, what that will mean is that prior to getting to 1 of those 1 or 2 moments per year where we choose to pay out some form of special that the debt will fall sub that $2,500,000,000 at a level and in turn we will draw back up to it to fund that special. Speaker 400:12:43Okay, terrific. And then just a little bit more on the operational side, obviously some strong improvements in steam oil ratio at the Cold Lake projects there. Sort of looking at Lindbergh in the public data, it looks like it's below where its long term trend is. Tucker's maybe a little bit above. I know the netback advantages of the crude grade to over sort of the next 12 months, 24 months and what sort of the opportunities for improvement that are left are? Speaker 100:13:22For sure, Patrick. Thank you. So obviously, as we move towards filling our capacity and where we have the most available capacity today is in our Tucker asset. We've continued to reactivate some of the legacy operator drills that maybe were not optimum drills at the time, but now benefited from the fact that the steam chambers have matured. So we continue to bring those online. Speaker 100:13:48We've been pleased with the results of our first H East pad, first eight wells. We're drilling our C Central pad and that's again production will start to come online. So just by virtue of bringing that production into the capacity, we'll start to improve our steam oil ratio. And I think when we look at the longer term, we suggested that as an overall all three of our assets, we could get into that sub-four maybe mid-three category over the next sort of 24 months as we bring on those new wells and continue to optimize our lower steam well ratio wells. At Orion, Orion is primarily a Clearwater asset. Speaker 100:14:33The formation is the Clearwater, but we also have some upper Grand Rapids that typically has a lower steam oil ratio. We had some success on our G5 pad last year and have sanctioned our next pad pursuing that Upper Grand Rapids. So all little bits and pieces that over the course of the next we expect 24 months, we'll bring our steam oil ratio down and improve the overall thermal efficiency of the business on top of the already strong economics. Speaker 400:15:01Okay. Thank you very much. Operator00:15:06Our next question comes from the line of Greg Pardy from RBC Capital Markets. Go ahead please. Speaker 500:15:14Hi there. This is Rob Mann on for Greg Pardy and thanks for taking my question. Just one for me, I know you touched on the shareholder returns earlier with Patrick's question. So just on the production side of things, just given the deferral of some natural gas production from the ground birds pad, maybe you could just frame your outlook for natural gas in 2025 and maybe how you're thinking about production for next year? Thanks. Speaker 100:15:36Yes. So we expect or hope that there is some recovery in prices and maybe late this year, we'll be able to bring those ground burch wells on. We're very cognizant, particularly the ground burch being the dry gas, they're very prolific wells and so much of the rate of return of that investment is captured in basically the sort of initial 12 months. So we would like to see supportive gas prices 2.50 ish and above when we think if we're comfortable in that point, we'll bring the gas production on. And that will allow us to fill, we did do a modest expansion at that Ground Bridge facility to about 30,000,000 a day of capacity and that will allow us then to fill that capacity and we go forward in that. Speaker 100:16:19So that will add probably in the order of 15,000,000 a day, 20,000,000 a day of new production that we expect we could maintain with supportive prices in 2025. Beyond that, expectations of 2025, I think that's partly where we will highlight in our Investor Day presentation, not only our expectation for 2025, but how are how we see our growth plans over the next number of years play out as we look at the opportunity base we have in each of our assets. Speaker 500:16:53That's great. Thanks for your time. I'll turn it back. Speaker 100:16:58Thank you. Operator00:17:10Our next question comes from the line of Dennis Fong from CIBC World Markets. Go ahead please. Speaker 600:17:17Hi, good morning and thanks for taking my questions. My first one is maybe following along following on from Meadow's question on carbon capture and the next steps. With the mid-twenty 25 FID timing, can you talk towards your view of, we'll call it, cadence and capital associated with carbon capture infrastructure, the recovery of Fed capital spent via the investment tax credits and balancing that with returning free cash to shareholders over the next couple of years. And I've got a second one on operations. Thanks. Speaker 300:17:52Sure. So in terms of how we see the cadence of capital and the cadence of the build out of our carbon capture hubs in both the Lloyd side of the border and in Cold Lake. As Rob said previously, what we're hoping to do is reach FID on our first effectively pilot project on the carbon capture front in mid-twenty 25 to give you a very round number on the size of that. That might be around 200,000 tons per tons per year and in turn about $200,000,000 of gross capital spending. And then effectively assuming that hopefully goes well, that's going to be coming on in the early to mid-twenty 20 7 time frame. Speaker 300:18:45And then our hope would be to follow that up with a much bigger set of carbon capture projects to get to fully fill the total $2,000,000,000 partnership that we formed with the Canada Growth Fund folks over the subsequent couple of years. In terms of how that $200,000,000 of gross capital for our first pilot is going to be funded from Tropcona's perspective. The big picture math to think about is effectively $100,000,000 of that gets funded by the Canada Growth Fund folks and $100,000,000 from the federal carbon capture in investments, a tax credit and a few other small grants that Strathcona has earned over the past couple of years. The actual timing of the cash inflows and outflows will be such that all of the $100,000,000 from the Canada Growth Fund will effectively throw a flow through to fund their 50% share on a as needed basis as the project is built. And then on the tax credit piece, there might be a couple of quarter time lag prior to us being cash a cash taxpayer between when we spend the CapEx in the project and when we get the tax credit back from the federal government. Speaker 300:20:25Post us being a cash taxpayer in the 2027 plus timeframe, there will effectively be no lag in terms of when we earn the cash from the carbon capture tax credit. So in turn what that means for Strathcona and our and the Strathcona balance sheet is that effectively there should really be no burden or no net use of cash from us as we go to build these carbon capture assets and in turn, there should be no change to any kind of base or future special dividend for our shareholders. Speaker 600:21:19Great. I appreciate that context Connor. Shifting gears more to the operations side and focusing on development at Druid. Can you talk towards the potential on your existing land base to develop the Mandeville stack through multilateral wells? And can you also kind of touch on leveraging some of the expertise you view your team is having to optimize that asset base in the Lloyd region? Speaker 100:21:43Yes. Thanks for that, Dennis. I think we are fortunate where our assets are located that and it's always the benefit of having assets in this region is you have often that manville stack as part of your ongoing business. So certainly in the Druid area, we will drill our first well. I think every formation has unique characteristics and we just want to make certain that this technology, we've had some there's been a small amount of, I'll call, 2 leg wells that have been drilled here, But this is the first time that we'll get a little more into the pure multi leg technology. Speaker 100:22:25If that is successful, we think there could be a number of follow-up locations in Druid in the order of half a dozen to a dozen. I guess at this point in time, are other parts of the reservoir that we also want to assess the applicability of that technology. And then that will lead us to, I guess, the other parts of our asset base. And hopefully, as we get to the Investor Day, we'll be able to provide even more context of what the potential could be for Strathcona. Again, having those multiple mandrel horizons in a number of our assets. Speaker 600:23:01Thanks, Rob. Appreciate the context and also appreciate that you don't really want to front run your Investor Day in terms of the takeaways from there. I'll turn it back. Thanks. Operator00:23:14Thank you. There are no further questions at this time. I'd now like to turn the call back over to Mr. Morgan for any final closing comments. Speaker 100:23:23Well, I want to thank everyone for taking the time today and the great questions. And we look forward to seeing all of you not only for our Q3 conference call, but at our Investor Day in November. Thanks very much. Enjoy the rest of your summer and have a great day. Operator00:23:40Thank you, sir. Ladies and gentlemen, this concludes your conference call for today. We thank you for participating and ask that you please disconnect your line. Have a lovely day.Read morePowered by