Amarin Q2 2024 Earnings Call Transcript

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August 13, 2024

There are 6 speakers on the call.

Operator

Good day, and welcome to the VerifyMe Second Quarter 20 24 Financial Results Conference Call. All participants will be in listen only mode. After today's presentation, there will be an opportunity to ask questions. Please note today's event is being recorded. I'd now like to turn the conference over to Nancy Meyers, Chief Financial Officer.

Operator

Please go ahead.

Speaker 1

Good morning, everyone, and thank you for joining us today for our earnings call presentation. On the call today, I am joined by Adam Stedham, CEO and President, who will give an operations and strategic update. Following our management presentation, we will have a Q and A session. I would like to bring your attention to the note on forward looking statements on Slide 3. Today's presentation and the answers to questions include forward looking statements.

Speaker 1

It should be understood that actual results could differ materially from those projected due to a number of factors, including those described under the forward looking statements caption and on the risk factors of the company's annual report on Form 10 ks and quarterly reports on Form 10 Q. I will now turn the call over to Adam Stems for some opening remarks.

Speaker 2

Thank you, Nancy. Welcome, everyone. I'm pleased to report that although Q2 2024 revenue is effectively flat with 2023, we had significant improvement in gross margin, gross profit and adjusted EBITDA, our gross margin percentage that is. Noteworthy is that this is now the 4th consecutive quarter of positive adjusted EBITDA. Given the previously announced change to a large single contract that was subcontracted to us from FedEx, we anticipate the adjusted EBITDA for Q3 maybe slightly negative, but we anticipate H2 and full year positive adjusted EBITDA.

Speaker 2

We previously announced that we anticipate mid single digit revenue growth in 2024 over 2023. As we further evaluate the progress within the authentication segment existing customer shipments for Precision Logistics, we now believe 2024 revenue will be roughly in line with 2023, which is much like H1 2024. With that said, we anticipate our gross profit, gross margin percentage and adjusted EBITDA will exceed 2023. I'll address the revenue drivers a bit more in a minute. However, I would like to point out that we continue to have confidence in 2025 because we do not believe the types of unexpected items that have impacted our revenue growth in 20 24 are likely to repeat or impact results to the same extent in 2025.

Speaker 2

Now our current cash net of debt is slightly better than this point last year. We anticipate that we will be roughly flat to slightly positive for cash net of debt for 20 24. And we continue to have sufficient cash flow to execute all of our organic current growth plans. We continue to have our announced buyback in place and we're evaluating our strategy around repurchasing shares thus far in 2024, the company has repurchased minimal shares. We continue to monitor all available options to utilize our capital to maximize the shareholders' value.

Speaker 2

So let's shift the conversation to our 2 operating segments. The Precision Logistics segment Q2 2024 revenue is above Q2 2023 just as in Q1 2024. However, the revenue is not experiencing the growth we had previously expected. One contributor to this is the previously announced change to the one FedEx contract. But the second factor is partial shipping volumes in the marketplace are down in 2024 versus 2023.

Speaker 2

So for H1 2024, our shipments with existing customers are down 9% versus H1 2023. However, we've increased our customers within our proactive service line by 7% in H1 2024 versus 2023. So we're pleased with the contribution of our new sales efforts in the intro, but the incremental contribution has been offset thus far by year over year reductions in volume with existing customers. In time, we anticipate these volumes will increase and add to the growth contributed to our new sales efforts. But for now, we're in a market in which our strongest opportunity to grow our revenues is by expanding our existing customer base.

Speaker 2

So we continue to focus our efforts on adding new customers in the region between Maine and Pennsylvania. That's our plan for the remainder of 20 24 and then expand in 2025. We did add 2 additional sales representatives as we announced we expected to hire on our last call. We continue to believe our plans for expanding our sales force with a targeted geographic approach will create the most value for the company. And our successes and lessons learned from this year will guide our plans for geographic expansion in 2025.

Speaker 2

So now let me shift to authentication segment for a bit. We've made significant progress on a very involved effort to formalize our relationship with Amazon. I realize that the effort has taken longer than we anticipated, but we believe the time and energy we are dedicating to this initiative is critical and is a critical element of our plans to deliver meaningful shareholder value. We anticipated this process and the subsequent revenue generation would occur sooner, but the length of the process does not in any way undermine the long term opportunity associated with the relationship. We continue to believe our relationship with Amazon creates significant opportunity to create value for Amazon, our mutual customers and consumers of our customers' brand and most importantly to you, VerifyMe shareholders.

Speaker 2

In addition to the Amicon relationship, we continue to see positive trends for our APAC business, our other strategic relationships, regulatory controls and ink sales. We anticipate that our H2 and full year 2024 revenues for authentication will exceed our revenues for the same periods in 2023, and I look forward to updating you on these important events as time goes on in the near future. So at this point, I'd like to turn the call back over to Nancy Meyers, our CFO, to provide a more detailed financial report.

Speaker 1

Thank you, Adam. The 2nd quarter revenue was $5,400,000 versus the prior year of $5,300,000 Revenue effectively remained flat in both our Precision Logistics and Authentication segments. Gross profit increased $500,000 or 32 percent to $2,100,000 in Q2 2024 versus $1,600,000 in Q2 2023. As a percentage of revenue, gross margin increased to 39% in 2024 versus 30% in 2023. The year over year increase in gross profit continued to reflect the shift in customer mix and service offerings in our Precision Logistics segment as well as process improvements the company has made.

Speaker 1

As a result of the previously announced change to one significant subcontract from FedEx, we anticipate H2 gross margins to be below H1 2024. We anticipate our full year 2024 gross margin to exceed full year 2023, and Q4 gross margin percentage will be below Q3 due to the seasonality associated with our proactive revenue. Overall, our operating expenses were effectively flat year over year at 2,600,000 dollars Our net loss for the quarter improved by $600,000 to a loss of $300,000 or a loss of $0.03 per diluted share versus a loss of $9,000,000 in Q2 2023 or a loss of $0.09 per diluted share. Our adjusted EBITDA increased by $600,000 to positive $200,000 for the Q2 of 2024. On the last slide is our balance sheet as of June 30, 2024.

Speaker 1

Our cash as of June 30 is $2,900,000 a decrease of $200,000 from $3,100,000 on December 31, 2023. During the 1st 6 months of 2024, our use of cash included $300,000 in repayment of debt and interest. Due to the seasonality of our Precision Logistics segment, our AR unbilled revenue and accounts payable are higher at year end compared to the other three quarters. As of June 30, 2024, we have $1,100,000 remaining on our loan and $1,100,000 on our convertible note. There are no borrowings under our line of credit, and we have $1,000,000 available to us.

Speaker 1

With that, I would like to turn the call back to Adam.

Speaker 2

Thank you, Nancy. So I've now been with the company for about a year and I continue to be focused on pivoting from transformation to growth. The marketplace adoption of authentication and traceability services continues to be slower than we desire. And in addition, we've had some headwinds for partial shipping volumes. With that said, we've not shied away from the hard work of moving the company forward.

Speaker 2

We have a healthy balance sheet, a sales strategy that is taking firm hold and key relationships that are being formalized. Our positioning in the marketplace is growing stronger than it's ever been. So at this point, let's turn the call over and happy to answer any questions.

Operator

Thank you. We'll now begin the question and answer session. And today's first question comes from Jack Mandry with Maxim Group. Please go ahead.

Speaker 3

Okay, great. Thank you. Good morning, Adam and Nancy. Hey, how are you doing, Bob? I'm doing well.

Speaker 3

I'm doing well. And congrats, I know the guidance, you've had to lower it a little bit, but it's good to see a 4th consecutive positive adjusted EBITDA quarter since you've taken over. And I am aware of your comments. It sounds like the 3rd quarter EBITDA loss could be it could be a loss, a slight loss. So I understand that, but good to see that it's supposed to be positive for the year.

Speaker 3

I'd really like to get your comments and just your perspective on your experience and expectations following the GS1 conference. Any takeaways you have? Thanks.

Speaker 2

So, great question. So, definitely, it was quite interesting. I think one big takeaway is, and it's impacted us this year, much the same as it seems to be impacting others. If you look at many of the regulations out there and many of the things in terms of the Food Safety Modernization Act, the shift from barcodes to more intelligent codes, across the industry thinks the adoption of these things are much slower than everybody expected. There were many conference sessions around why are things so slow.

Speaker 2

It seems like many of the companies are taking things cautiously because this is an election year. They don't know what's going to happen. They have until the beginning of 2026 to have full adoption, 2027 for others. So many companies are taking a wait and see this year, which has slowed the adoption. Therefore, it slowed some of the revenue growth of the suppliers to the marketplace.

Speaker 2

So I thought that was really important. With that said, if you look at the overall landscape, there's not a lot of there's really no indication that the deadlines are going to delay. So that gives us optimism about 2025. Many of the customers are doing their strategic planning and budgeting for 2025 as we speak and they're having to plan on these requirements going into place January 2026. So I thought that was a it was a very interesting and insightful overview of what's happening in the industry.

Speaker 3

Okay, great. No, I appreciate that color. And without getting too specific, you do sound very optimistic about 2025 as well despite maybe a kind of a flat growth for 2024. If I could just circle back maybe to that 5 year target plan you outlined at your Investor Day, how do you feel about those targets still? I think it's kind of like a 17% growth CAGR over time over 5 years and marching your way up to certain adjusted EBITDA margins of 15 plus percent.

Speaker 3

How do you feel about those numbers and just kind of do you feel like you're still on track as you head into 2025? Thanks.

Speaker 2

So I do feel good about that. Assuming that the regulatory environment doesn't have a significant change, assuming that the marketplace and society continues to move forward in terms of food safety and modernization, in terms of the shift in barcodes. If you look at this year, and if you look over the 5 year period of time, on our Precision Logistics segment, we knew that some of the work that was being subcontracted to us from FedEx was not going to continue to grow. We've indicated that they were working on an AI solution internally. And so they wouldn't continue to be long term dependent upon us.

Speaker 2

It hit us faster this year than we had anticipated, but we didn't anticipate that continuing to grow throughout the 5 year period. We anticipated our growth coming from our proactive business. The sales people we've hired were excited about the pipeline. We're excited about the growth that they've had. This year, it's offset by reductions with our existing customer base.

Speaker 2

But over a 5 year period of time, as those incremental sales continue to kick in, as the existing customer base goes through the normal ebbs and flows of the economic cycles and we see those shipments return, we feel very good on that side. So that's Precision Logistics, feel very strong there. On the authentication side, as long as there aren't significant changes to the regulatory drivers that we believe are going to drive this business, we continue to have confidence there as well.

Speaker 3

Okay, great. Very much appreciate the color there. And just one more point, just kind of for to clarify, just because I may have missed it. Did I hear correctly, parcel shipments from in 1H24 from existing customers, those were down 9% year over year, but shipments from new customers were up 7% year over year. Is that correct?

Speaker 2

Not exactly. Our shipment volumes, I kind of mixed this up on you, maybe I should have done it differently. But so just so we're all clear, the shipment volumes are down 9% year over year. Our total new customers is up 7%. So we've added a significant number of customers.

Speaker 2

So on one hand, I'm comparing the volumes with existing customers year over year and on the other hand, I'm comparing the total number of customers year over year.

Speaker 3

Got it. Very much appreciate the clarity there. Makes sense. Well, I appreciate the update and glad to hear you have sufficient cash to continue organic growth objectives.

Operator

And our next question today comes from Michael John Petusky with Barrington Research.

Speaker 4

Adam, so I'm curious, did any was there any impact in the quarter from the FedEx premium business? Or did that business sort of continue as normal through June? Or did some of that actually get into the quarter?

Speaker 2

It did. It did come into the quarter. It transitioned between midway and 2 thirds through the quarter is when it transitioned.

Speaker 4

Is there any quantification of that impact by any chance?

Speaker 2

I don't think we've put any quantification out publicly on that.

Speaker 4

Okay. All right. And then your comments on 25, I'm just curious, there's additional premium business that FedEx, I don't believe, did transition, but sort of remains. And I'm just curious, are your 'twenty five comments, I may be totally over reading this, but your confidence around 'twenty five, does that indicate that you've given any sense that, hey, that remaining premium business will continue for the foreseeable future or not?

Speaker 2

What I can say, so I can't answer directly, but I'll try to answer indirectly. We're really pleased with the relationship we have with FedEx and they're very transparent with us about what their strategies are. And we're very aware of when existing contracts with our mutual customers with FedEx come up for renewal and looking at when those customers come up for renewal in combination with the strategy that FedEx has shared with us that that's what gives us the confidence about 25.

Speaker 4

I think we're only talking about maybe a couple of 2, 3 contracts, right, make up the remaining, whatever it is, a couple of $1,000,000 of premium?

Speaker 2

Right. There's a small number, yes. It's only

Speaker 4

a So can I ask just sort of for longer term modeling, I mean, do those contracts start to come up in 'twenty six? Is that essentially how we should sort of read your comments?

Speaker 2

That's how I would think about it. From a modeling perspective, that's how I would think about it.

Speaker 4

Okay. And so intuitively then, I would assume that it may be prudent to assume some kind of couple $1,000,000 drag in 26 if one was modeling out multiple years here. Is that fair?

Speaker 2

From a modeling exercise perspective, I think that that's a fair way to model. I believe that it's hard in the world right now, it's hard to predict 6 months from now, much less a year and a half from now. And we the other thing I would think that you need to think about, if you remember back to the Strategy Day, there's 3 components, there's 3 types of revenue. So there's proactive revenue where we're out selling customers and we're effectively subcontracting FedEx. There is premium revenue, traditional premium revenue where FedEx has subcontracted us and that's at an elevated gross margin because of the way it's structured.

Speaker 2

And then there's a direct premium part of our business as well, which was very small when we had our strategy day. But this is a part of the business that our new sales force is selling. And on a percentage basis, it's actually the area that's experiencing the most growth for us on a percentage basis, but it's very small at this point. So what direct premium means, just as a reminder, it's much like premium in that the we get paid by a customer and it operates at a much higher gross margin because we don't have incremental cost associated with servicing it. They have a contract with And they have a contract directly

Speaker 4

with us.

Speaker 2

And they have a contract directly with us to handle all of the value added services that sit on top of the shipping. So although the direct premium, we I do think over time where FedEx is subcontracting us, I completely agree that the model should be that that's going to go down over time. Hopefully over the next quarter and going forward, I'll be able to give you more guidance on the ramp up

Speaker 4

of the

Speaker 2

premium, the 3rd leg of our stool, that direct premium, because it is growing in a meaningful way. It's too early to tell and we don't have enough data to be able to guide you for 20252026, but we hope to have that by our next call. Adam, can I just

Speaker 4

ask a quick question on that? How much of the remaining premium business is direct premium? What percentage like 10

Speaker 2

So we'll get that number to you so you can incorporate it into your model. Does that work?

Speaker 4

I mean it's fair to say though it's not the majority.

Speaker 2

Correct, correct. Right, right. Absolutely, it's on the smaller percentage side of it. But we'll get it to you. And we'll get it to both of the analysts, right, just so you both have it for modeling.

Speaker 4

And then Adam, last question, just sort of a follow-up on the earlier analyst question on the longer term targets. I mean, I don't know that I would take your commentary as an affirmation of the targets you guys put out at the Investor Day. I mean, is it fair to say that now it's that's aspirational, but not necessarily that you would not be comfortable saying you've affirmed those 5 year targets. I mean is that fair or are you Right.

Speaker 2

I think that's fair. I think in essence, we're on track for our efficiency gains and our margin improvement. We are on track for our strategy. We're not over a 5 year period of time significantly changed by the FedEx subcontracting model, all of that. With that said, obviously, we're not in this year achieving the revenue that we had desired to achieve this year.

Speaker 2

So it does back things up a little bit in the model. So I don't necessarily think that the trajectory of the model is shifting, but the starting point of the model is moving to the right a bit because of the revenue gains that aren't materializing this year as we had anticipated.

Speaker 4

Let me squeeze one last one in. In terms of authentication and what you're trying to do with Amazon, I guess, and I understand this is drag, but I mean, are you hopeful that you can sort of get where you want to in terms of formalizing that relationship by the year end or by the time you guys report year end or how are you thinking about that?

Speaker 2

Yes, definitely by year end. I am I mean, quite transparently, if I would we anticipated we would have it by now. So but it's more it's complicated. And but just because it's complicated doesn't mean that it's not valuable. It just means that it's taken more time than we expected.

Speaker 2

So without a doubt, by year end, I would anticipate that.

Speaker 4

Is this the kind of relationship that you feel like essentially is bigger than the current run rate of the business? I mean, is it of that magnitude?

Speaker 2

The run rate of the authentication business or the overall business?

Speaker 4

No, the authentication business.

Speaker 2

Absolutely. I think that if it materializes effectively, it should be. I think that the relationship transforms that business. I believe it's a transformative relationship for the very nature of what we're able to provide and the value what we can provide to a certain subset of consumers. So it's absolutely changed it changes the game for that side of the business.

Speaker 4

Terrific. All right. Thank you so much. Really helpful.

Speaker 1

Sorry, Mike, just to give you the direct premium number, it's running about 10%.

Operator

Sorry about that, ma'am. Our next question today comes from Jeff Porter of Porter Capital Management. Please go ahead.

Speaker 5

Hey, Adam. I'm wondering if you can elaborate in the Amazon perspective relationship, what gives us a competitive advantage there? And are you seeing others that we're competing with for that business?

Speaker 2

If there were others that were competing for the business that could very well happen and we not know of it. So I want to be very transparent about that. With that said, we believe right now, we are the only one who is working on this. That's what our current belief is and that belief based upon the facts and the conversations that we've had thus far. So that's our current belief.

Speaker 2

We don't believe that we will be the only one forever. I think that would be naive, but I believe, but as of right now, we are the only one. And what gives us the confidence is as was previously announced, by not necessarily by us, but by one of our customers, we've already demonstrated a proof of concept with one of our customers that's actually integrated in and going live. So that's what gives us the sense of confidence overall.

Speaker 5

Great. And could you speak to what the margins on this business prospectively would be?

Speaker 2

Not exactly. The margins will be roughly in line with our authentication margins overall. It won't vary tremendously from our existing and much of the margin depends upon the actual go to market strategy. So if we have a customer that wants just codes that's extremely high gross margin. If they want codes that we put on labels and they buy an integrated label with codes, then there's lower margin because you can't demand the same margin on a label markup that you can on the intellectual property associated with the codes.

Speaker 2

So it's difficult for us to exactly predict because we don't know the product mix between label and non label that the consumers will go with or the brands will go with. So based upon that, if we assume it will follow the traditional pattern of the authentication business, then you could model that the gross margins would stay intact of what authentication generates right now.

Speaker 5

Okay. That's helpful. Thank you.

Speaker 2

Thank you.

Operator

Thank you. And this concludes our question and answer session. I'd like to turn the conference back over to the company for any closing remarks.

Speaker 2

Thank you very much for that. So as I said, it's been about a year. It's been a really educational year for me. And we're sitting here and I do believe that we're on track from a strategy perspective. We're on track from an efficiency perspective.

Speaker 2

And in many of our sales efforts, we're on track from an incremental sales perspective. But those sales have been counterbalanced by some headwinds in part of the business. But none of that changes the optimism on the precision logistics side to realize the growth that we expect to realize over time. And then on the authentication side, we're dealing with a business that continues to be very small, very subscale, dependent upon key relationships that will give us tremendous leverage. And as there's been delays formalizing those relationships, it's delayed our leverage.

Speaker 2

Nonetheless, we do believe those relationships are going to materialize and that will result in the leverage that we need to allow this subscale business to grow in a very meaningful way. So I look forward to giving updates on the next call. And then ideally speaking, we anticipate that there will be updates between now and then as well. So thank you very much.

Operator

Thank you. This concludes today's conference call. We thank you all for attending today's presentation. You may now disconnect your lines and have a wonderful day.

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