Warner Bros. Discovery Q1 2025 Earnings Call Transcript

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August 15, 2024

There are 6 speakers on the call.

Operator

Good day, and welcome to the Crown Crafts, Inc. 1st Quarter Fiscal Year 2025 Conference Call. All participants will be in listen only mode. Please note this event is being recorded. I would now like to turn the conference over to John Beisler, Investor Relations.

Operator

Please go ahead.

Speaker 1

Thank you, Dave, and good morning, everyone. We appreciate you joining us for the Crown Crafts' Q1 fiscal 2025 conference call. Joining me this morning are Crown Crafts' President and CEO, Olivia Elliott and the company's CFO, Craig Demarest. Crown Crafts issued a press release yesterday afternoon regarding their Q1 2025 financial results. A copy of this release is available on the company's website, crowncrafts.com.

Speaker 1

The company's Form 10 Q was also filed yesterday. During today's call, the company will make certain forward looking statements and actual results may differ materially from those expressed or implied. These statements are subject to risks and uncertainties that may be beyond Crowdcast's control. And the company is under no obligation to update these statements. For more information about the company's risk factors and other uncertainties, please refer to the company's filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission.

Speaker 1

Finally, I would like to remind you today's call is being recorded and a replay will be available through the company's Investor Relations page. Now, I'd like to turn the call over to President and CEO, Olivia Elliott.

Speaker 2

Thank you, John. Good morning, everyone. Our Q1 fiscal 2025 results were impacted by the prolonged inflationary pressures facing consumers, limiting their discretionary income. Excluding the costs related to the closure of our U. K.

Speaker 2

Subsidiary and acquisition related costs, our performance for the quarter was generally breakeven. The most recent consumer survey provided a mixed outlook with consumers feeling slightly more confident about near term prospects with concerns about inflation, the job market and a potential recession ahead. There is growing sentiment about potential rate cuts from the Fed in the remainder of the year and into 2025, which would bring some measure of relief to consumers through lower credit card interest rates, which impact our lower income customers the most. We did see some encouraging developments in the quarter, including the performance of our bedding business and the reduction of our debt levels with cash provided by operations. Finally, we purchased the assets of Baby Boom Consumer Products last month.

Speaker 2

This is a very exciting opportunity for the company and I will speak more about this later in the call. With that, I'd like to turn it over to Craig to cover the financials in more detail.

Speaker 3

Thank you, Olivia, and good morning, everyone. Net sales for the Q1 of 2025 were $16,200,000 compared with $17,100,000 in the prior year quarter. The decrease is primarily due to a major retailer reducing inventory levels and the loss of a program at another major retailer. Gross profit for the quarter was 24.5 percent of net sales compared with 27.7% in the Q1 of fiscal 2024. The decrease in gross profit is primarily related to increased warehouse costs and the timing of purchases, which caused an unfavorable change in the absorption of costs into inventory.

Speaker 3

Marketing and administrative expenses were $4,300,000 compared to $4,000,000 in the prior year quarter. The current year quarter includes $244,000 for the closing of Manhattan Toys U. K. Subsidiary and $116,000 in costs associated with the Baby Boom acquisition. Net loss for the quarter was $322,000 or $0.03 per share compared with net income of $366,000 or $0.04 per share in the prior year.

Speaker 3

Turning now to our balance sheet. Cash and cash equivalents at June 30 totaled $1,100,000 compared with $829,000 at the end of fiscal 2024. Inventories at the end of the quarter were $30,600,000 compared to $29,700,000 at the end of fiscal 202437,700,000 at the end of the Q1 of the prior year. Our long term debt at the end of the Q1 of fiscal 2025 was $1,500,000 compared to $8,100,000 at the end of fiscal 2024. This decrease is primarily related to the collection of Q4 fiscal 2024 receivables, coupled with lower than planned inventory purchases during the current year quarter.

Speaker 3

Regarding the acquisition of Baby Boom, we paid $18,000,000 to the assets of the company, subject to customary working capital adjustments. We financed the transaction through a combination of an $8,000,000 term loan repayable monthly over 4 years and additional borrowings under our revolving line of credit. The term of the line of credit was extended by 1 year to July 2029 and we increased its borrowing capacity from $35,000,000 to $40,000,000 Finally, our quarterly dividend of $0.08 per share offers an annualized yield of 6.7 percent

Speaker 4

based on yesterday's closing price per share.

Speaker 3

We continue to believe our dividend is closing price per share. We continue to believe our dividend is a key component towards offering long term returns to our shareholders. Now I'll turn the call back over to Olivia for additional comments.

Speaker 2

Thank you, Craig. Before I get into our purchase of Baby Booms, let me provide an update on a few other matters. We continue to receive positive feedback on new product development at Manhattan Toy, which acquisition in March 2023 expanded our distribution channels and cross selling opportunities. As part of continuous management of our cost structure, we decided to close its GK subsidiary at the end of June 2024. We continue to evaluate options for a future warehouse location to reduce our lease expense.

Speaker 2

This effort likely will continue through the rest of fiscal 2025 and into next fiscal year. Now let me turn to our acquisition of Baby Boom. We're very excited about the opportunity to add Baby Boom's products and licenses to our lineup. The acquisition enhances our toddler bedding business with some very popular licensed brands, including Bluey, Miss Rachel and Paw Patrol. It also adds diaper bags to our product offering.

Speaker 2

The diaper bags are sold under both company brands and under a license from Eddie Bauer. There will be some expenses in the near term as we move the baby boom inventory from a 3PL in Ontario, California to our existing warehouse in Compton, rent additional storage space in a temporary facility and move some Sassy inventory from California to our Eden Valley, Minnesota warehouse, but the acquisition is expected to be immediately accretive to earnings. As we work through the remainder of calendar 2024 and into 2025, we will continue to focus on optimizing our cost structure and developing products that position our brands to capitalize when the overall macroeconomic picture improves. I'd like to thank our team for their efforts and our customers for their continuing support. We look forward to updating you on our progress throughout the year and thank you, our shareholders, for your continued support.

Speaker 2

With that, I'd like to open up the line for questions. Dave?

Operator

We will now begin the question and answer session. Our first question comes from Doug Roth with Lennox Financial. Please go ahead.

Speaker 5

Good morning. I appreciate the details that you provided. With the baby boom toddler bedding, which of the brands do you think has the most opportunity and maybe you could tell us why?

Speaker 2

Meaning the licenses?

Speaker 5

Yes. So the license with the bedding.

Speaker 2

So they have some very popular licenses right now. They have Bluey, which is a really, really popular, probably the most popular one right now. Cocomelon, which has been popular for quite some time. And then we're really excited about some of the YouTube brands. We think Ms.

Speaker 2

Rachel has a good opportunity. The inventory is not in yet. It's a new license that had been signed right before we did the acquisition. And so we're waiting on the inventory to come in, but we think that's going to be a hit.

Speaker 5

And what makes Bluey popular?

Speaker 2

It's a television show that today's kids are just very excited about. He's a cute little puppy dog.

Speaker 5

Okay. Very good. And then could you talk about the diaper bag and how big of an opportunity you think it might be?

Speaker 2

So right now, diaper bags are probably about 40% of the acquisition sales. We do think that we have an opportunity to grow diaper bags in some other right now, it's mainly in Walmart and Target. We think we have an opportunity to grow that across other retailers, and we also think that we have an opportunity, maybe in specialty stores and to take that internationally.

Speaker 5

Okay. And then could you give us a little bit more detail about the feedback that you're receiving about the product development with the Manhattan

Speaker 2

toys? Sure. So the big product launches happen at some of the gift shows that primarily happened during the summer. And so in June, we showed at one of the major gift shows and we introduced the new line of Wimmer, which is the baby, the true infant, 0 to kind of 9 to 12 month products. And they were just really excited about those and the specialty stores are really pushing us to go ahead and get that inventory in so that they can start purchasing it.

Speaker 2

We also are working on a new updating the Stella Doll collection. And so the initial feedback on that is very good.

Speaker 5

Very good. And then how about can you explain a little bit more about what happened in the United Kingdom and the decision to close the Manhattan Toy subsidiary there?

Speaker 3

I mean,

Speaker 2

so Sassy Baby already had international distribution and they do Manhattan Toy kind of handle those retailers direct. And so as we looked at those two models, it feels like the distributorship model works the best. And so we were able to close that office, cut down those expenses and we had 3 employees there and we're replacing it with 2 employees in the U. S.

Speaker 5

Okay. And then are you thinking that the final decision about the warehouse, do you think that, that would be made and would that be made in is it possible still for fiscal 2025 or do you think that would be made sometime in fiscal 2026?

Speaker 2

I think we will have narrowed down to 1 or 2 locations or at least not necessarily the exact address, but I think we'll have narrowed down to the city location by the end of fiscal 2025.

Speaker 5

That's encouraging. And I just want to say that I'm optimistic about the future of the company and I want to thank you for answering my questions.

Speaker 2

Thank you, Doug.

Operator

And the next question comes from Josh Peters with Morgan Dempsey. Please go ahead.

Speaker 4

Good morning, Craig. Good morning, Olivia. Good

Speaker 2

morning, Josh. Good morning.

Speaker 4

Yes. I too am very excited about the Baby Boom acquisition. And since I still have relatively young children in the house, I kind of get the Bluey thing compared to some of what I've seen over the last 15 years for small child entertainment, Bluey is much less likely to drive its parents absolutely insane through repeated exposure. I realize we're not the target audience there. That's always an important point.

Speaker 4

I have just a couple of questions. One, I was very happy to see the bedding line items start to turn around in the quarter. And obviously, you've talked about some very promising feedback and potential growth for Manhattan Toy. I am curious about what if you're able to give me some sense of what the Manhattan Toy contribution to sales in the quarter was because the quarter was pretty soft on that light item.

Speaker 2

Actually, I don't have that number broken out right now. I can tell you that where it was soft was in the bib side of the business. We mentioned that there was a loss program that impacted the sales and that was the bid program at Target because Target decided to take that entire program direct source. So they're sourcing that themselves.

Speaker 4

Okay. So but that affects more your pre existing business than Manhattan Toy, is that a fair characterization?

Speaker 2

Correct.

Speaker 4

Yes. Okay. Okay. Yes, I'm just trying to get a sense of some of the discrete contributions from different parts of the business. And you mentioned also a major retailer reducing inventory.

Speaker 4

That's been a story here for a while. Do you feel like the customer is now comfortable with their level of inventory and we're going to at least get the benefit of what's actually being sold at the cash registers?

Speaker 2

Yes. Well, we know what's being sold at the cash registers, and we can see that this particular inventory isn't I mean, this particular customer is not buying to the POS. Just when we think the wheels are on the bus and the inventory levels are back to normal, this happens. And so I would like to say that we're that they're purchasing back to the POS, but I'm not sure that they are. It seems very erratic right now.

Speaker 2

1 week, they're purchasing the POS and the next week, they're not.

Speaker 4

Okay. Well, I suppose everybody is still dealing with the volatility associated with the interesting things of the last 3, 4 years here. On gross margin, I see the pressure there and just trying to get a little bit better handle on how that is working its way through. So when you referred to timing of purchases, is this a disproportionate piece of high cost inventory from perhaps a year or 2 ago when shipping costs were really high and obviously we've had the increase in the rent in the Compton facility. Just trying to get a sense of are we absorbing those costs now finally through the P and L and we can see some margin improvement from here?

Speaker 3

Yes, the margins are mostly impacted by the addition of warehousing costs and the allocation of overhead between inventory and cost of sales. And all of that is kind of based on purchases and we had a lower than we planned or lower than expected purchases during the Q1, which wound up with a like we said an unfavorable absorption of the cost into the balance sheet that has to run through the P and L. So that can fluctuate from quarter to quarter. If you look at the prior year Q1, it was a favorable impact to margin. So the combination of the 2 from prior year and the current year made it look a little more pronounced than maybe it really is.

Speaker 4

Okay. Well, that's really good perspective just to understand the accounting process associated with some of that. Last question, relating well, there's a couple I suppose in here questions. Relating to the Baby Boom acquisition, are you expecting to file an 8 ks that will have some financial history for Babyboom and the pro form a financial statements? Pardon?

Speaker 3

Yes, we will. We'll file their 1 year historical financial statements, accompanied by pro form a financial

Speaker 4

information. Okay. Do you have a sense of when that's likely to be filed? I suppose there's delays associated with actual accounting and all that

Speaker 3

you would like to get? Yes. I would look for it around the 1st October.

Speaker 4

Okay. And from that, I'll certainly look forward to actually getting the filing, but we paid $18,000,000 for the business. In very rough terms, are you able to break that down between net physical assets associated with the business as opposed to what you're paying for goodwill and intangibles?

Speaker 3

Yes. I mean, we disclosed in the press release that it's going to be adjusted to the extent that the working capital differs from the $6,500,000 and we're not buying the underlying equity of the company. So and we're not buying a whole lot of PP and E or a plant facility or anything like that. So it'll be the difference between what we paid and the working capital. And that will be allocated over the next month.

Speaker 3

We have a 3rd party who does evaluation of the intangibles, licenses and brands and the like. Okay.

Speaker 4

So subject to adjustments as the business continues to operate here, dollars 6,500,000 is the net tangible asset bogey, so to speak?

Speaker 3

That was the estimate at the acquisition date. We still have maybe another week or 2 before the seller has to provide us with a close, an actual close, accounting close as of the acquisition date, but that should be coming in the next week or so.

Speaker 4

Okay. All right. Well, sorry to be getting into some pretty small board things there, but you've already given me quite a good education over the years on the big picture for the business and really looking forward to seeing the growth of the business with this latest acquisition. Very optimistic. Thanks.

Operator

And the next question comes from Doug Ruth with Lennox Financial. Please go ahead.

Speaker 5

I wanted to ask a follow-up to sort of Josh's question. With the sales from Manhattan Toy, it seemed like when you did the last earnings call, you indicated that perhaps the revenue might grow 7.5% to 10% in this fiscal year. I was wondering, do you have an update? Do you have a projection as far as what kind of growth you might get from Manhattan Toy this fiscal year?

Speaker 2

We do not. And I guess I don't recall. We typically don't provide forecast. So I'm trying to figure out where the 7% to 10% came from.

Speaker 5

While you had said that the initially you thought that the revenue would be higher in the 1st year of operation and then what you made some projections as far as how long it might take for you to get back to the original projection. So

Speaker 2

Right. So I think that time frame is 2 to 3 years out before you get to the what we initially forecasted.

Speaker 5

Yes. So I took your took out that number and then I just calculated it and that's what it appeared to be, to be 7.5% to 10% growth per year for the next like 3 years. So I was just one do you think there'll be revenue growth for Manhattan Toy in this fiscal year?

Speaker 2

We really don't make those forecasts. I hate to do that.

Speaker 5

No, I understand. I just it's a question I thought should be asked and I appreciate you considering it.

Speaker 2

All right. Thank you.

Speaker 4

Thank you.

Operator

And then this concludes our question and answer session. I would like to turn the conference back over to Olivia Elliott for any closing remarks.

Speaker 2

Thanks, Dave. Thank you for your continued interest in our company. We will participate in the 3 part Advisors Ideas Conference on August 28, and our presentation will be available on our website. We look forward to speaking with you again when we report our Q2 results in November.

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