NASDAQ:NXGL NEXGEL Q2 2024 Earnings Report $2.80 -0.03 (-1.20%) As of 04/17/2025 04:00 PM Eastern This is a fair market value price provided by Polygon.io. Learn more. Earnings History NEXGEL EPS ResultsActual EPS-$0.14Consensus EPS N/ABeat/MissN/AOne Year Ago EPSN/ANEXGEL Revenue ResultsActual Revenue$1.44 millionExpected RevenueN/ABeat/MissN/AYoY Revenue GrowthN/ANEXGEL Announcement DetailsQuarterQ2 2024Date8/19/2024TimeN/AConference Call DateWednesday, August 14, 2024Conference Call Time4:30PM ETUpcoming EarningsNEXGEL's Q1 2025 earnings is scheduled for Monday, May 12, 2025, with a conference call scheduled at 4:30 PM ET. Check back for transcripts, audio, and key financial metrics as they become available.Conference Call ResourcesConference Call AudioConference Call TranscriptPress Release (8-K)Quarterly Report (10-Q)Earnings HistoryCompany ProfilePowered by NEXGEL Q2 2024 Earnings Call TranscriptProvided by QuartrAugust 14, 2024 ShareLink copied to clipboard.There are 6 speakers on the call. Operator00:00:00Thank you, operator. Good afternoon, and welcome, everyone, to Nextel's 2nd quarter 2024 earnings conference call. I'm joined today by Adam Levy, Chief Executive Officer and Adam Drapsik, Chief Financial Officer. Before we begin, I'd like to remind everyone that statements made during today's conference call may be deemed forward looking statements within the meaning of the Safe Harbor of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995 and actual results may differ materially due to a variety of risks, uncertainties and other factors. For a detailed discussion of some of the ongoing risks and uncertainties in the company's business, I refer you to the press release issued this evening and filed with the SEC on Form 8 ks as well as the company's reports filed periodically with the SEC. Operator00:00:44The company disclaims any intention or obligation to update or revise any forward looking statements whether as a result of new information, future events or otherwise, unless otherwise required by law. With that, it's my pleasure to turn the call over to Mr. Adam Levy. Adam, please go ahead. Speaker 100:01:01Thank you, Walter, and thank you everyone for joining us today to discuss our Q2 2024 financial and operating results. The Q2 of 2024 was a record revenue quarter for the company, totaling $1,440,000 an increase of 23.4% year over year and 13.8% sequentially. Branded consumer products revenue was a key growth driver totaling $968,000 as compared to $259,000 in June of 2023. Included in the year over year branded customer product revenue comparison is our Kingco derm product line, which we acquired in December of 2023 and about half a quarter of contribution from our new acquisition of Silly George. Silly George offers its loyal customer base a full product line of eye and eyelash products, including hassle free alternatives for eyelashes and eyelash care such as lash extensions, lash serum and various accessories. Speaker 100:02:00Silly George is predominantly sold direct to consumer not only in the United States, but internationally as well. Tilly George has built a large social media following and consumer database, which includes 88,000 Facebook and 83,000 Instagram followers, as well as over 250,000 unique customer emails. When we acquired the brand, its revenue rate was approximately 2,000,000 dollars Since then, we have launched new products such as a new line of pop on lashes, leveraging neutralash technology to create non toxic long wear eyelash extensions that are easy to apply and remove and can last for 5 to 10 days. We also implemented new marketing strategies. We acquired Silly George in May for $600,000 in cash, common stock plus a future earn out. Speaker 100:02:51In short order and as a result of new products and marketing, as we announced in July, I am pleased to confirm Philly George continues to perform well and that July sales alone were over 380,000 on Shopify only. While consumer product sales can fluctuate, we continue to be excited with our acquisition. Additionally, we are only just now releasing our pop on lashes on Amazon. In the contract manufacturing side of our business, we completed the expansion of our capacity in Texas to support the new client relationships that we have. We doubled our square footage and invested in state of the art automated machinery and related clean room facilities. Speaker 100:03:31During the quarter, we had some remaining capital expenditures related to this expansion in the amount of $209,000 and expect that number to be minimal in the back half of the year now that we have completed the expansion. Due to our expansion in the quarter, revenue was impacted as we shut down the facility for a period of time to move equipment and validate it prior to restarting operations. We expect revenue to be more normalized going forward in Q3 and Q4. Our relationship with Stata continues to progress well. We recently announced our first product, Histosolv, which is sold as DAISYNSYN in Europe. Speaker 100:04:09This is Europe's number one selling diamine oxidase enzyme supplement generating well over $20,000,000 in annualized revenues to treat histamine food intolerance, which can cause migraines, headache, gut issues and skin conditions. We have just launched HISDASOLVE on Amazon and our marketing campaign starting this month. Subsequent to the quarter, we announced a supply agreement with Cintas Corporation, a leading provider of corporate identity uniforms, first aid and safety products and services to over 1,000,000 businesses across North America to distribute our flagship product SilverSeal. Cintas will distribute Silverseal to its customers in many sectors such as hospitality and public service. As a hospital grade hydrogel dressing for wounds and burns, the employees of Cintas' customers are the ideal target audience for this product. Speaker 100:05:02This partnership is significant to us not only for the associated revenue, but also for Silverseal's brand awareness. We expect the first order of Silverseal to be delivered during the Q4 of 2024. We recently issued revenue guidance for the Q3 of $2,200,000 an increase of 83% year over year and for the Q4 of $2,600,000 an increase of over 140% year over year. Our revenue guidance still does not incorporate any revenue from our partnership with AbbVie as the exclusive supplier of gel pads for their RASONIQ rapid acoustic pulse device for reduced cellulite appearance. We still expect revenues to start in Q1 of 2025 and we continue to work closely with their team on the launch. Speaker 100:05:49At this higher expected quarterly revenue level in Q3 and Q4, we are getting very close to achieving our goal of generating positive cash flow from operations. Lastly, earlier this week, we with the investment dollars with the investment dollars we spent for Silly George and also provide us with working capital to buy inventory and increase the marketing spend for the brand. With that, I would like to turn the call over to our CFO, Adam Drapsic. Adam? Speaker 200:06:25Thank you, Adam. Today, I'll review financial highlights of our Q2 2024 results. For the quarter ended June 30, 2024, revenue totaled $1,440,000 an increase of $273,000 or 23.4 percent as compared to $1,117,000 for the quarter ended June 30, 2023. The increase in revenue was driven by sales growth in branded consumer products, including approximately 45 days of revenue from Silly George, partially offset by a decrease in contract manufacturing. Contract manufacturing was impacted by CGN's move into its new facility and will normalize and grow in Q3 and Q4. Speaker 200:07:17Gross profit totaled $410,000 Speaker 300:07:20for the Speaker 200:07:203 months ended June 30, 2024, compared to a gross profit of $175,000 for the 3 months ended June 30, 2023. The increase of $235,000 in gross profit year over year was primarily due to the increase in branded consumer products. Gross profit margin for the Q2 of 2024 was 28.5% compared to a gross margin for the Q2 of 2023 of 15% and a gross profit margin of 21.9 percent in the Q1 of 2024. Cost of revenues increased by $38,000 or 3.8 percent to $1,030,000 for the 3 months ended June 30, 2024, as compared to $992,000 for the 3 months ended June 30, 2023. The increase in cost of revenues is primarily aligned with sales of branded consumer products, partially offset by a decrease in cost of revenues from lower contract manufacturing revenue. Speaker 200:08:32Selling, general and administrative expenses increased by $506,000 or 57.4 percent to $1,390,000 for the 3 months ended June 30, 2024, as compared to $882,000 for the 3 months ended June 30, 2023. The increase in selling, general and administrative expenses is primarily attributable to an increase in advertising, marketing and Amazon fees attributable to promotion related to Kinkoderm and Silly George. We expect these costs to increase in Q3 with a full quarter of Silly George revenue and with further growth in branded consumer products. Research and development expenses increased by 21,000 dollars to $76,000 for the 3 months ended June 30, 2024 from $55,000 for the 3 months ended June 30, 2023. Net loss for the 3 months ended June 30, 2024 was $979,000 as compared to a net loss of $642,000 in the 3 months ended June 30, 2023. Speaker 200:09:45As of June 30, 2024, the company had a cash balance of approximately $1,100,000 Subsequent to the end of the quarter, the company closed on a registered direct offering of $1,110,000 led by insiders. The use of proceeds for the financing is for working capital and the immediate requirement for additional inventory and marketing to meet the higher than expected demand for the Silly George brand products. The company believes it has sufficient cash and marketable securities to operate its business plan into 2025. As of August 14, 2024, Nextel had 6,324,266 shares of common stock outstanding, which does not include the 444,000 shares of common stock we anticipate issuing in connection with our recent offering. I would now like to open the call for questions. Speaker 200:10:44Operator? Speaker 400:10:49Thank We'll take our first question while we wait from Bill Odenchow from Kova Capital Partners. Please go ahead. Speaker 300:11:18Hi, Adam and then team. I have two questions. One is relative to the quarter in Silly George and just trying to get a little more clarity on it. In your press release, you said that Silly George did more than $380,000 in July in revenues, only on Shopify and not including Amazon. That's correct. Speaker 300:11:45So if you annualize that, I'm just trying to get an idea of your expectations of the simplicity of revenues. You annualized the $380,000 and $4,500,000 on the year. Your guidance for the Q3 is $2,200,000 in sales and guidance for the Q4 is $2,600,000 in sales. So is this something should I mean will this impact the second half of the year if it stays if there continue if July is indicative of what's going on in the business? How do you guys look at this? Speaker 100:12:27So consumer products are always tough. Thanks for the question, Billy. Consumer products are always tough because of their unpredictability. Right now, it appears very, very strong. We know we made those projections, we were at a lower run rate and the run rate is growing. Speaker 100:12:43We are hopeful and the reason we are going to increase our spend a little bit is because we believe there's an excellent chance that that product line continues to grow and will end up being an amazing acquisition. So yes, if it continues to grow at that pace, then we're probably going to perform really in the second half. Okay. It's always an if with a consumer product, nobody. Speaker 300:13:03Yes, I got it. And the second question is relative to Cintas. So when should we start to expect revenues from Cintas? And I'm not sure have you given any guidance or expectations as to what kind of deal this could be? Speaker 100:13:25So revenue from Cintas is going to start in the 4th quarter. In fact, the orders for the gel required for CG converting and packaging to make the product have already been placed with us and that gel is already in manufacturer, but the products will ship in Q4. It is a very important part of our drive to try to become cash flow positive because while consumer products revenues are fantastic and our margins are very good, because of the fixed costs both at CGN and at NextGen, contract manufacturing dollars actually mean more to the bottom line, almost 3 to 1. So we're very excited about that revenue stream starting as well as another large customer that we recently onboarded. The Cintas opportunity is certainly in the Q4 multiple 100 of 1,000 of dollars and it will continue with a reorder pattern and as I said it will be significant revenue. Speaker 300:14:25And I'm sorry, I had one last question. It's relative to AbbVie. So in your press release in July, you put these with the expectations of Q3 and Q4 revenue out. And you also stated that these expectations are without any revenues predicted from AbbVie. Can you give us an idea where that what the status is with AbbVie and maybe a little if you can drill down on the timing Q1, Q2, what you're kind of expecting? Speaker 100:15:00Yes. So we communicate with AbbVie regularly, although not as much since we're now done in DesignLock. Our original expectation was that revenues would start in Q3 right now. And then we did announce that AbbVie had a delay due to their console. And so the revenues everything was delayed. Speaker 100:15:16The whole project launch was delayed 6 months. That puts us into revenues starting in Q1. Now that is the soft launch part. So the revenues will begin in Q1 and they will ramp as we move into Q2 and then full launch in Q3. But the revenues are decent and will start in Q1. Speaker 100:15:33So that's when we expect to have AbbVie become accretive to our bottom line. Speaker 300:15:40Perfect. Got it. Thanks, Vlad. Appreciate it. Speaker 100:15:43Okay. Speaker 400:15:45Thank you. Next, we're going to remind everyone it is star 1 for a question. And we'll next go to Eric Ramos with Titan Capital Management. Speaker 500:15:55Hi, Adam. I just wanted to say congrats on the quarter. And I have a few questions, if that's okay. One of them is kind of starting with the silly George. You guys are obviously saying that you guys have really high run rate revenues with just Shopify. Speaker 500:16:08And I was kind of wondering how you expect that to evolve with the addition of Amazon? And then what you kind of think the gross margin looks like as you kind of start paying those seller fees to Amazon as well? Does that stay kind of consistent or does that kind of Speaker 100:16:20decline? So that's a great question. The answer about how Amazon will affect the Shopify sales quite frankly is, I don't know. I've never seen a product go this big on Shopify before Amazon even existed. So overall, we anticipate Amazon to be accretive. Speaker 100:16:38What I don't know yet is of the shoppers and of the billing that we do for every dollar we do on Amazon, are we stealing $0.25 from Shopify? Are we stealing $0.50 from Shopify? How does that break down? As far as the margins go, we look at both of them very similarly. And the biggest control that you have in direct to consumer business is your cost of advertising. Speaker 100:17:00And we just create an allowable on Amazon where the audience already exists. That is a much lower advertising, I call it, tolerable ACOS and Taco that allows for that extra commission that Amazon charges so that the results are about the same. So we try to get the same margin on both Amazon and Shopify to make us kind of agnostic as to where the customer goes. We just want the customer journey to be as simple as possible. But as far as how cannibalistic Amazon will be, I'm not sure, never seen it before. Speaker 500:17:37That answer your question? Yes, definitely. And then another thing, I was kind of curious about the AbbVie, RASONIQ agreement. I don't know how much you're able to share, but can you maybe give us your kind of baseline expectations for pricing for treatment as well as kind of the amount of treatments you expect to see on either like a daily, monthly, yearly basis for each of these machines? Speaker 100:17:59So we don't really know how many treatments there will be other than some internal projections of demand, which were under NDA for that we got from AbbVie. And of course, the success of the machine is going to determine that. I can tell you that these are large pads. They're 8x8 pads. Each procedure uses at least 2 of them. Speaker 100:18:18And depending on the packaging choice that AbbVie has selected, it's either it's somewhere between the range of $3.50 to $5 a pad, so double that per treatment. Speaker 500:18:31That's really helpful. And then are you able to give any kind of insight into what you think the gross margins on those kind of sales are going to look Speaker 100:18:38like? Yes. So the gross margins kind of flow through 2 places, because we treat CG converting and packaging or CGN, as I call it, as a arm's length transaction. They're going to have margins much like medical device contract manufacturing in that 30%, 35%, 40% range, somewhere between 30% 40%. And but they're buying the gel from us. Speaker 100:19:01So we also make additional margin on that. So it's not unreasonable to expect greater than 50% margin overall. Speaker 500:19:10Got you. That's really helpful. I think that's all I had. Thank you guys so much. Speaker 300:19:15Thank you. Speaker 400:19:16Thank you. And with no further questions, thank you. We're going to turn the call back to Mr. Adam Levy for final remarks. Speaker 100:19:37Thank you, operator, and thanks everybody for joining the call. We worked very hard in Q1 and Q2 to sort of set ourselves up for success in Q3 and Q4. And I think everything that we've built towards will come to fruition in Q3 and Q4. So we're very anxious and excited to get there and get to the results from those quarters because we've done a lot of work and made a lot of investments to get us to this point. 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There are 6 speakers on the call. Operator00:00:00Thank you, operator. Good afternoon, and welcome, everyone, to Nextel's 2nd quarter 2024 earnings conference call. I'm joined today by Adam Levy, Chief Executive Officer and Adam Drapsik, Chief Financial Officer. Before we begin, I'd like to remind everyone that statements made during today's conference call may be deemed forward looking statements within the meaning of the Safe Harbor of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995 and actual results may differ materially due to a variety of risks, uncertainties and other factors. For a detailed discussion of some of the ongoing risks and uncertainties in the company's business, I refer you to the press release issued this evening and filed with the SEC on Form 8 ks as well as the company's reports filed periodically with the SEC. Operator00:00:44The company disclaims any intention or obligation to update or revise any forward looking statements whether as a result of new information, future events or otherwise, unless otherwise required by law. With that, it's my pleasure to turn the call over to Mr. Adam Levy. Adam, please go ahead. Speaker 100:01:01Thank you, Walter, and thank you everyone for joining us today to discuss our Q2 2024 financial and operating results. The Q2 of 2024 was a record revenue quarter for the company, totaling $1,440,000 an increase of 23.4% year over year and 13.8% sequentially. Branded consumer products revenue was a key growth driver totaling $968,000 as compared to $259,000 in June of 2023. Included in the year over year branded customer product revenue comparison is our Kingco derm product line, which we acquired in December of 2023 and about half a quarter of contribution from our new acquisition of Silly George. Silly George offers its loyal customer base a full product line of eye and eyelash products, including hassle free alternatives for eyelashes and eyelash care such as lash extensions, lash serum and various accessories. Speaker 100:02:00Silly George is predominantly sold direct to consumer not only in the United States, but internationally as well. Tilly George has built a large social media following and consumer database, which includes 88,000 Facebook and 83,000 Instagram followers, as well as over 250,000 unique customer emails. When we acquired the brand, its revenue rate was approximately 2,000,000 dollars Since then, we have launched new products such as a new line of pop on lashes, leveraging neutralash technology to create non toxic long wear eyelash extensions that are easy to apply and remove and can last for 5 to 10 days. We also implemented new marketing strategies. We acquired Silly George in May for $600,000 in cash, common stock plus a future earn out. Speaker 100:02:51In short order and as a result of new products and marketing, as we announced in July, I am pleased to confirm Philly George continues to perform well and that July sales alone were over 380,000 on Shopify only. While consumer product sales can fluctuate, we continue to be excited with our acquisition. Additionally, we are only just now releasing our pop on lashes on Amazon. In the contract manufacturing side of our business, we completed the expansion of our capacity in Texas to support the new client relationships that we have. We doubled our square footage and invested in state of the art automated machinery and related clean room facilities. Speaker 100:03:31During the quarter, we had some remaining capital expenditures related to this expansion in the amount of $209,000 and expect that number to be minimal in the back half of the year now that we have completed the expansion. Due to our expansion in the quarter, revenue was impacted as we shut down the facility for a period of time to move equipment and validate it prior to restarting operations. We expect revenue to be more normalized going forward in Q3 and Q4. Our relationship with Stata continues to progress well. We recently announced our first product, Histosolv, which is sold as DAISYNSYN in Europe. Speaker 100:04:09This is Europe's number one selling diamine oxidase enzyme supplement generating well over $20,000,000 in annualized revenues to treat histamine food intolerance, which can cause migraines, headache, gut issues and skin conditions. We have just launched HISDASOLVE on Amazon and our marketing campaign starting this month. Subsequent to the quarter, we announced a supply agreement with Cintas Corporation, a leading provider of corporate identity uniforms, first aid and safety products and services to over 1,000,000 businesses across North America to distribute our flagship product SilverSeal. Cintas will distribute Silverseal to its customers in many sectors such as hospitality and public service. As a hospital grade hydrogel dressing for wounds and burns, the employees of Cintas' customers are the ideal target audience for this product. Speaker 100:05:02This partnership is significant to us not only for the associated revenue, but also for Silverseal's brand awareness. We expect the first order of Silverseal to be delivered during the Q4 of 2024. We recently issued revenue guidance for the Q3 of $2,200,000 an increase of 83% year over year and for the Q4 of $2,600,000 an increase of over 140% year over year. Our revenue guidance still does not incorporate any revenue from our partnership with AbbVie as the exclusive supplier of gel pads for their RASONIQ rapid acoustic pulse device for reduced cellulite appearance. We still expect revenues to start in Q1 of 2025 and we continue to work closely with their team on the launch. Speaker 100:05:49At this higher expected quarterly revenue level in Q3 and Q4, we are getting very close to achieving our goal of generating positive cash flow from operations. Lastly, earlier this week, we with the investment dollars with the investment dollars we spent for Silly George and also provide us with working capital to buy inventory and increase the marketing spend for the brand. With that, I would like to turn the call over to our CFO, Adam Drapsic. Adam? Speaker 200:06:25Thank you, Adam. Today, I'll review financial highlights of our Q2 2024 results. For the quarter ended June 30, 2024, revenue totaled $1,440,000 an increase of $273,000 or 23.4 percent as compared to $1,117,000 for the quarter ended June 30, 2023. The increase in revenue was driven by sales growth in branded consumer products, including approximately 45 days of revenue from Silly George, partially offset by a decrease in contract manufacturing. Contract manufacturing was impacted by CGN's move into its new facility and will normalize and grow in Q3 and Q4. Speaker 200:07:17Gross profit totaled $410,000 Speaker 300:07:20for the Speaker 200:07:203 months ended June 30, 2024, compared to a gross profit of $175,000 for the 3 months ended June 30, 2023. The increase of $235,000 in gross profit year over year was primarily due to the increase in branded consumer products. Gross profit margin for the Q2 of 2024 was 28.5% compared to a gross margin for the Q2 of 2023 of 15% and a gross profit margin of 21.9 percent in the Q1 of 2024. Cost of revenues increased by $38,000 or 3.8 percent to $1,030,000 for the 3 months ended June 30, 2024, as compared to $992,000 for the 3 months ended June 30, 2023. The increase in cost of revenues is primarily aligned with sales of branded consumer products, partially offset by a decrease in cost of revenues from lower contract manufacturing revenue. Speaker 200:08:32Selling, general and administrative expenses increased by $506,000 or 57.4 percent to $1,390,000 for the 3 months ended June 30, 2024, as compared to $882,000 for the 3 months ended June 30, 2023. The increase in selling, general and administrative expenses is primarily attributable to an increase in advertising, marketing and Amazon fees attributable to promotion related to Kinkoderm and Silly George. We expect these costs to increase in Q3 with a full quarter of Silly George revenue and with further growth in branded consumer products. Research and development expenses increased by 21,000 dollars to $76,000 for the 3 months ended June 30, 2024 from $55,000 for the 3 months ended June 30, 2023. Net loss for the 3 months ended June 30, 2024 was $979,000 as compared to a net loss of $642,000 in the 3 months ended June 30, 2023. Speaker 200:09:45As of June 30, 2024, the company had a cash balance of approximately $1,100,000 Subsequent to the end of the quarter, the company closed on a registered direct offering of $1,110,000 led by insiders. The use of proceeds for the financing is for working capital and the immediate requirement for additional inventory and marketing to meet the higher than expected demand for the Silly George brand products. The company believes it has sufficient cash and marketable securities to operate its business plan into 2025. As of August 14, 2024, Nextel had 6,324,266 shares of common stock outstanding, which does not include the 444,000 shares of common stock we anticipate issuing in connection with our recent offering. I would now like to open the call for questions. Speaker 200:10:44Operator? Speaker 400:10:49Thank We'll take our first question while we wait from Bill Odenchow from Kova Capital Partners. Please go ahead. Speaker 300:11:18Hi, Adam and then team. I have two questions. One is relative to the quarter in Silly George and just trying to get a little more clarity on it. In your press release, you said that Silly George did more than $380,000 in July in revenues, only on Shopify and not including Amazon. That's correct. Speaker 300:11:45So if you annualize that, I'm just trying to get an idea of your expectations of the simplicity of revenues. You annualized the $380,000 and $4,500,000 on the year. Your guidance for the Q3 is $2,200,000 in sales and guidance for the Q4 is $2,600,000 in sales. So is this something should I mean will this impact the second half of the year if it stays if there continue if July is indicative of what's going on in the business? How do you guys look at this? Speaker 100:12:27So consumer products are always tough. Thanks for the question, Billy. Consumer products are always tough because of their unpredictability. Right now, it appears very, very strong. We know we made those projections, we were at a lower run rate and the run rate is growing. Speaker 100:12:43We are hopeful and the reason we are going to increase our spend a little bit is because we believe there's an excellent chance that that product line continues to grow and will end up being an amazing acquisition. So yes, if it continues to grow at that pace, then we're probably going to perform really in the second half. Okay. It's always an if with a consumer product, nobody. Speaker 300:13:03Yes, I got it. And the second question is relative to Cintas. So when should we start to expect revenues from Cintas? And I'm not sure have you given any guidance or expectations as to what kind of deal this could be? Speaker 100:13:25So revenue from Cintas is going to start in the 4th quarter. In fact, the orders for the gel required for CG converting and packaging to make the product have already been placed with us and that gel is already in manufacturer, but the products will ship in Q4. It is a very important part of our drive to try to become cash flow positive because while consumer products revenues are fantastic and our margins are very good, because of the fixed costs both at CGN and at NextGen, contract manufacturing dollars actually mean more to the bottom line, almost 3 to 1. So we're very excited about that revenue stream starting as well as another large customer that we recently onboarded. The Cintas opportunity is certainly in the Q4 multiple 100 of 1,000 of dollars and it will continue with a reorder pattern and as I said it will be significant revenue. Speaker 300:14:25And I'm sorry, I had one last question. It's relative to AbbVie. So in your press release in July, you put these with the expectations of Q3 and Q4 revenue out. And you also stated that these expectations are without any revenues predicted from AbbVie. Can you give us an idea where that what the status is with AbbVie and maybe a little if you can drill down on the timing Q1, Q2, what you're kind of expecting? Speaker 100:15:00Yes. So we communicate with AbbVie regularly, although not as much since we're now done in DesignLock. Our original expectation was that revenues would start in Q3 right now. And then we did announce that AbbVie had a delay due to their console. And so the revenues everything was delayed. Speaker 100:15:16The whole project launch was delayed 6 months. That puts us into revenues starting in Q1. Now that is the soft launch part. So the revenues will begin in Q1 and they will ramp as we move into Q2 and then full launch in Q3. But the revenues are decent and will start in Q1. Speaker 100:15:33So that's when we expect to have AbbVie become accretive to our bottom line. Speaker 300:15:40Perfect. Got it. Thanks, Vlad. Appreciate it. Speaker 100:15:43Okay. Speaker 400:15:45Thank you. Next, we're going to remind everyone it is star 1 for a question. And we'll next go to Eric Ramos with Titan Capital Management. Speaker 500:15:55Hi, Adam. I just wanted to say congrats on the quarter. And I have a few questions, if that's okay. One of them is kind of starting with the silly George. You guys are obviously saying that you guys have really high run rate revenues with just Shopify. Speaker 500:16:08And I was kind of wondering how you expect that to evolve with the addition of Amazon? And then what you kind of think the gross margin looks like as you kind of start paying those seller fees to Amazon as well? Does that stay kind of consistent or does that kind of Speaker 100:16:20decline? So that's a great question. The answer about how Amazon will affect the Shopify sales quite frankly is, I don't know. I've never seen a product go this big on Shopify before Amazon even existed. So overall, we anticipate Amazon to be accretive. Speaker 100:16:38What I don't know yet is of the shoppers and of the billing that we do for every dollar we do on Amazon, are we stealing $0.25 from Shopify? Are we stealing $0.50 from Shopify? How does that break down? As far as the margins go, we look at both of them very similarly. And the biggest control that you have in direct to consumer business is your cost of advertising. Speaker 100:17:00And we just create an allowable on Amazon where the audience already exists. That is a much lower advertising, I call it, tolerable ACOS and Taco that allows for that extra commission that Amazon charges so that the results are about the same. So we try to get the same margin on both Amazon and Shopify to make us kind of agnostic as to where the customer goes. We just want the customer journey to be as simple as possible. But as far as how cannibalistic Amazon will be, I'm not sure, never seen it before. Speaker 500:17:37That answer your question? Yes, definitely. And then another thing, I was kind of curious about the AbbVie, RASONIQ agreement. I don't know how much you're able to share, but can you maybe give us your kind of baseline expectations for pricing for treatment as well as kind of the amount of treatments you expect to see on either like a daily, monthly, yearly basis for each of these machines? Speaker 100:17:59So we don't really know how many treatments there will be other than some internal projections of demand, which were under NDA for that we got from AbbVie. And of course, the success of the machine is going to determine that. I can tell you that these are large pads. They're 8x8 pads. Each procedure uses at least 2 of them. Speaker 100:18:18And depending on the packaging choice that AbbVie has selected, it's either it's somewhere between the range of $3.50 to $5 a pad, so double that per treatment. Speaker 500:18:31That's really helpful. And then are you able to give any kind of insight into what you think the gross margins on those kind of sales are going to look Speaker 100:18:38like? Yes. So the gross margins kind of flow through 2 places, because we treat CG converting and packaging or CGN, as I call it, as a arm's length transaction. They're going to have margins much like medical device contract manufacturing in that 30%, 35%, 40% range, somewhere between 30% 40%. And but they're buying the gel from us. Speaker 100:19:01So we also make additional margin on that. So it's not unreasonable to expect greater than 50% margin overall. Speaker 500:19:10Got you. That's really helpful. I think that's all I had. Thank you guys so much. Speaker 300:19:15Thank you. Speaker 400:19:16Thank you. And with no further questions, thank you. We're going to turn the call back to Mr. Adam Levy for final remarks. Speaker 100:19:37Thank you, operator, and thanks everybody for joining the call. We worked very hard in Q1 and Q2 to sort of set ourselves up for success in Q3 and Q4. And I think everything that we've built towards will come to fruition in Q3 and Q4. So we're very anxious and excited to get there and get to the results from those quarters because we've done a lot of work and made a lot of investments to get us to this point. So thank you all for staying with us and supporting the company. Speaker 100:20:05And hopefully, you will be impressed by what actually happened in Q3 and Q4. Thank you. Speaker 400:20:12That does conclude today's program. Thank you for your participation. You may disconnect at any time.Read morePowered by