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Earnings HistoryForecast American Superconductor EPS ResultsActual EPS$0.05Consensus EPS -$0.04Beat/MissBeat by +$0.09One Year Ago EPSN/AAmerican Superconductor Revenue ResultsActual Revenue$40.29 millionExpected Revenue$39.55 millionBeat/MissBeat by +$740.00 thousandYoY Revenue GrowthN/AAmerican Superconductor Announcement DetailsQuarterQ1 2025Date8/6/2024TimeN/AConference Call DateWednesday, August 7, 2024Conference Call Time10:00AM ETUpcoming EarningsAmerican Superconductor's Q4 2025 earnings is scheduled for Tuesday, May 27, 2025Conference Call ResourcesConference Call AudioConference Call TranscriptPress Release (8-K)Quarterly Report (10-Q)Earnings HistoryCompany ProfilePowered by American Superconductor Q1 2025 Earnings Call TranscriptProvided by QuartrAugust 7, 2024 ShareLink copied to clipboard.There are 7 speakers on the call. Operator00:00:00Good day, and welcome to the AMSC First Quarter Fiscal 20 24 Financial Results. All participants will be in listen only mode. Please note this event is being recorded. I would now like to turn the conference over to Nicole Gelez, Director of Communications at AMSC. Please go Speaker 100:00:44ahead. Thank you, Dave. Good morning, everyone, and welcome to American Superconductor Corporation's 1st quarter of fiscal year 2024 earnings conference call. I am Nicole Golla, Director of Communications. With us on today's call are Mr. Speaker 100:01:02Daniel McGahn, Chairman, President and Chief Executive Officer and Mr. John Kosiba, Senior Vice President, Chief Financial Officer and Treasurer. American Superconductor issued its earnings release for the Q1 of fiscal year 2024 yesterday after market closed. For those who have not seen the release, a copy is available in the Investors page of the company's website at www.amsstate.com. Before starting the call, I would like to remind you that various remarks management may make about American Superconductor's future expectations, including expectations regarding the company's Q2 of fiscal year 2024 financial performance, plans and prospects constitute forward looking statements for purpose of the Safe Harbor provisions under the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. Speaker 100:02:02Actual results may differ materially from those indicated by such forward looking statements because of various important factors, including those in the Risk Factors section of American Superconductors' Annual Report on Form 10 ks for the year ended March 31, 2024, which company filed with the Securities and Exchange Commission on May 29, 2024 and the company's other reports filed with the SEC. These forward looking statements represent management's expectations only as of today and should not be relied upon as representing management's views as of any day after today. While the company anticipates that subsequent events and developments may cause the company's views to change, the company specifically disclaims any obligation to update these forward looking statements. Also on today's call, management will refer to non GAAP net income, a non GAAP financial measure. The company believes non GAAP net income assists management and investors in comparing the company's performance across reporting periods on a consistent basis by excluding these non cash, non recurring or other charges that it does not believe are indicative of its core operating performance. Speaker 100:03:31The reconciliation of GAAP net loss to non GAAP net income can be found in the Q1 of fiscal year 2024 earnings press release that the company issued and furnished to the SEC last night on Form 8 ks. American Superconductors' press releases and SEC filings can be accessed from the Investors page of its website atwww.amsc.com. With that, I will now turn the call over to Chairman, President and Chief Executive Officer, Mr. Daniel McGann. Daniel? Speaker 200:04:10Thanks, Nicole, and good morning, everyone. I'll begin today by providing an update on our grid and wind business units followed by comments on our recent acquisition. John Kosiba will then provide a detailed review of our financial results for the 1st fiscal quarter, which ended June 30, 2024, provide guidance for the 2nd fiscal quarter, which will end September 30, 2024 and comment on the acquisition. Following our comments, we'll open up the line to questions from our analysts. We're off to a very good start with our new fiscal year. Speaker 200:04:45The business is thriving and we delivered yet another remarkable quarter. Our team reported great results for the Q1 of fiscal 2024. Total revenue for the Q1 came in line with our guidance range and grew by more than 30% versus the year ago period. Our first quarter revenue of $40,000,000 was driven by strong new energy power system shipments. Our grid revenue for the Q1 of fiscal year 2024 accounted for 80% of AMSC's total revenue and grew over 25% versus the year ago period. Speaker 200:05:25The remainder of the revenue came from our wind business, which grew over 75% from a year ago. This is the 2nd quarter in a row than we've been at this $40,000,000 revenue level. We exceeded our average gross margin levels for the quarter through a combination of strong projects and performance in each of our business segments. We ended the 1st quarter with more than $95,000,000 in cash. We had very strong bookings in the Q1 with both new and existing customers for our products. Speaker 200:06:01We announced a record $75,000,000 order of ship protection systems from the Royal Canadian Navy, while New Energy Power Systems came in at about $33,000,000 Our New Energy Power Systems orders represent strong contributions from utilities, industrials, renewables, semiconductors and mining. We received our 3rd follow on order of over $12,000,000 from our wind customer Inox Wind. All told, we generated more than $125,000,000 in new orders in the quarter. This is also a recent record. We ended the quarter with a 12 month backlog of $160,000,000 and a total backlog of $250,000,000 We entered the year at $140,000,000 12 month backlog. Speaker 200:06:54These results and achievements represent our ability to deliver business diversification, financial growth and expanded scale. We are very pleased with these results and encouraged by our orders momentum. Our business appears to be well positioned for the future. Now I'll turn the call over to John Kosiba to review our financial results for the Q1 of fiscal 2024, provide guidance for the Q2 of fiscal 2024, which will end September 30, 2024 and comment on the addition of NWL to the AMSC family. John? Speaker 300:07:30Thanks, Daniel, and good morning, everyone. AMSC generated revenues of $40,300,000 for the Q1 of fiscal 2024 compared to $30,300,000 in the year ago quarter. Our Grid business unit accounted for 80% of total revenues, while our Wind business unit accounted for 20%. Grid business unit revenues increased by 26% in the Q1 versus the year ago quarter. This year over year change was led by revenue growth from our new energy power systems. Speaker 300:08:01Wind business unit revenues increased by 76% in the Q1 versus the year ago quarter. This year over year change was driven by ECS shipments. Looking at the P and L in more detail, gross margin for the Q1 of fiscal 2024 was 30%. This is up from 21% in the year ago quarter. Gross margin for the quarter was favorably impacted by the increased revenues, the pricing increases across our product lines, a favorable product mix including strong service and spare parts revenue as well as elevated levels of factory absorption across our product lines. Speaker 300:08:40We experienced this gross margin expansion due to the drivers I mentioned. This was a perfect combination of events that yielded these elevated gross margins in Q1. We believe that the actions taken over the last couple of years to expand our gross margins will continue to have a positive impact on our business. Moving on to operating expenses. R and D and SG and A expenses for the Q1 of fiscal 2024 were $11,200,000 compared to $9,700,000 in the year ago quarter. Speaker 300:09:15Approximately 11% of R and D and SG and A expenses in the Q1 of fiscal 2024 were non cash. Our net loss in the Q1 of fiscal 2024 was $2,500,000 or $0.07 per share. I'd like to mention that included in our net loss for the quarter was a $3,900,000 consideration revaluation expense related to the NEPSY acquisition, which is a non cash item. If we exclude the contingent consideration, amici would have generated $1,400,000 of net income in the Q1. This compares to a net loss of $5,400,000 or $0.19 per share in the year ago quarter. Speaker 300:09:59Our non GAAP net income for the Q1 of fiscal 2024 was $3,000,000 or $0.09 per share compared with a non GAAP net loss of $2,100,000 or $0.08 per share in the year ago quarter. Please see our press release issued last night for a reconciliation of GAAP to non GAAP results. We ended the Q1 of fiscal 2024 with $95,500,000 in cash, cash equivalents and restricted cash. This compares with $92,300,000 on March 31, 2024. We generated $3,400,000 of operating cash flow in the Q1 of fiscal 2024. Speaker 300:10:38Now turning on to our financial guidance for the Q2 of fiscal 2024, we expect that our revenues will be in the range of $38,000,000 to $42,000,000 Our net loss on net revenue is expected not to exceed $1,700,000 or $0.05 per share. Please note that our net loss guidance assumes no changes in contingent consideration. We expect our non GAAP net income to be at least breakeven before any impact of the acquisition. The company expects operating cash flow in the Q2 of fiscal 2024 to range from breakeven to positive 2,000,000 The company's guidance does not include the impact of the recently announced acquisition of NWL. Additionally, this guidance does not contemplate an approximately $8,000,000 milestone payment that is expected to be paid from our Allied Navy in late September or early October. Speaker 300:11:33That payment could have a significant favorable impact on our operating cash flow if it is received within the quarter. Now I'd like to take a moment to provide a financial summary of the NWL acquisition. On August 1, 2024, AMSC acquired NWL, a private New Jersey based company that sells power supplies and transformers to industrial and military customers. The total consideration paid for the acquisition was approximately $61,400,000 The consideration was comprised of $30,000,000 in cash, dollars 25,000,000 paid at closing and an additional $5,000,000 to be paid after considering various adjustments set forth in the stock purchase agreement. The remaining $31,400,000 was paid by issuing 1,300,000 restricted shares of AMSC common stock to the sellers at closing. Speaker 300:12:27The share price used to calculate the shares paid to the sellers was $24.16 which was the closing price of our stock on the day prior to closing. Summarizing NWL's income statement. NWL has averaged $55,000,000 in revenue over the last 3 years. They've experienced significant growth in their most recent year with calendar 2023 revenues of 72,300,000 dollars Gross margins for calendar 2023 were 24% and operating expenses in calendar 2023 were approximately 12,000,000 dollars The operating margin in calendar 2023 was approximately 11%. Now moving on to the balance sheet. Speaker 300:13:10We acquired the company on a debt free basis. The acquired balance sheet at a close in had approximately $41,200,000 in current assets, $28,400,000 in fixed assets and $1,900,000 in intangible assets. The fixed assets included 2,000,000,000 2 buildings in New Jersey valued at approximately $23,000,000 which are owned outright. We acquired approximately $12,100,000 in short term liabilities and a $6,500,000 deferred tax liability in long term liabilities. Given the fact that AMC has substantial loss carry forwards to apply against future profit, we expect that much of that deferred tax liability will not be realized and will be taken as a tax income benefit in the quarters ahead. Speaker 300:13:59One other point to mention, we acquired a 12 month backlog of approximately $44,000,000 and a total backlog of approximately $51,000,000 More than half of that total backlog is expected to ship before December 31, 2024. As you can see, we acquired a company that we believe has a solid history of financial performance, a strong balance sheet and a backlog that demonstrates the current health of their business. As a result, we are expecting this acquisition to have an immediate positive impact on our financial performance. Looking ahead, we are working through final purchase accounting reconciliations. Due to purchase and accounting activities that need to be finalized in Q2 of fiscal 2024, we are unable to provide any specific guidance regarding the financial impact the acquisition may have on our fiscal 2024 financial results. Speaker 300:14:51With that said, our expectation is that NWL will contribute meaningfully to our consolidated revenue for Q2 fiscal 2024 and will add to our operating cash flow. One last note, we filed an 8 ks last night with the SEC, which includes pro form a financial information that shows the favorable impact the acquisition would have had on our prior year June quarter if the acquisition had occurred as of April 1, 2023 April 1, 2024. Please see the AKA for more information. With that, I'll turn the call back over to Daniel. Thanks, John. Speaker 200:15:31We began fiscal year 2024 with strong orders momentum, solid financial results and what we believe to be a powerful addition to our business. A couple of days ago, we announced the acquisition of NWL. Prior to becoming part of the AMSC family, NWL was a privately held company in New Jersey. It has been owned and operated by the same family for 2 generations for over 50 years. NWL provides power supplies for motor drives for a variety of energy applications as well as for critical military systems. Speaker 200:16:07The acquisition of NWL directly aligns with our strategic priorities to accelerate profitable growth, broaden our product offering and expand our market reach and market share. NWL has a history of profitable revenue with a 3 year average of approximately $55,000,000 per year. The acquisition of NWL is expected to complement and extend our product offerings in the industrial and military sectors. As we expand our military business, we believe NWL has the potential of multiplying our military footprint within the Department of Defense, especially the U. S. Speaker 200:16:48Navy. We see the possibility that with NWL, we may expedite our Navy expansion from our ship protection systems to ship power systems. Today, we install ship protection systems that help Navy ships stay hidden from our enemy threats. Together with ship power systems, we can help power ship functions. We see NWL as part of the next step from protecting the fleet to powering the fleet. Speaker 200:17:19With NWL, we're buying a business that we like, that's run by people we like and run-in a fashion that we like. It's also a company that we know. NWL was a strategic supplier to NEPSY. AMSC looked to also qualify them as a supplier. They are known to solve hard problems for their customers and have an exceptional offering that's typically deployed in hardened industrial and military environments. Speaker 200:17:46We have a lot of respect for NWL and what has been built. Strategically, we made this acquisition with the expectation that it will improve the long term quality of our revenues and earnings with further diversification by region, customer and product. And most importantly, we believe that the acquisition will accelerate our ability to achieve our goal to reach sustainable profitability. In addition to the expected improvement in the quality of our revenues and earnings, we believe that the acquisition of NWL can further expand our industrial market penetration. NWL will provide immediate access to customers we do not have access to today. Speaker 200:18:26Their customer expansion in the industrial side largely resides in the factory, where the customers we serve today are at the substation level. We believe that our strong balance sheet and the addition of NWL positions us for continued growth. This move underscores how we continue to focus on building a more predictable and diversified business. To conclude, we believe the business really is in the best position it's ever been in and continues to improve. We generated non GAAP net income and positive operating cash flow consistently over the past 4 quarters and we are guiding for a possible 5th quarter. Speaker 200:19:14Last quarter, we mentioned the possibility of doubling revenue from our fiscal 2021 levels. Let me remind you those levels were in the $25,000,000 a quarter range. Our notion of getting to $50,000,000 a quarter is now certainly possible. At this $50,000,000 quarterly level, we have the potential to generate net income. The addition of NWL coupled with our strong financial performance changes the scale of our business and should place us in a strong position for continued diversified growth. Speaker 200:19:48We have several tailwinds generated by U. S. Policies and momentum in our wind and ship businesses that hopefully will continue to drive our company's growth. During our Q1, we announced our first Allied Navy contract with the Royal Canadian Navy for our Ship Protection Systems or SPS. Through this multi year contract, we expect to deliver our proprietary SPS hardware, provide engineering services, integration and commissioning of the system into multiple Canadian surface combatants. Speaker 200:20:21We are diligently working with Irving Shipbuilding, a Canadian shipbuilder that has constructed over 80% of Canada's fleet at sea today to deliver our first SPS system by 2026. We are grateful to be contracted to provide world class mine protection to the Canadian Surface Combatant Platform and its sailors. In addition, we have a total of 5 SPS contracts for the U. S. Navy San Antonio class LPD and are working on our proprietary mine countermeasure or MCM system. Speaker 200:20:54We are designed into multiple ship platforms, LPD for the U. S. Navy and CSC for the Royal Canadian Navy and we hope add our U. S. Navy ship platform with the addition of the MCM product when it goes into production. Speaker 200:21:08We see expanding opportunities, especially in the military business. NWL's military progress coupled with AMSCs present an exciting opportunity to expedite AMSC's Navy expansion from protection systems to ship power systems. The 2 companies together are expected to provide a powerful combination. We are keenly focused on our ability to achieve our goal of sustainable profitability. We are very close. Speaker 200:21:39If you listen to John Kasiba's comments carefully, you may understand that we may already be there. If NWL can continue to contribute in a similar manner as they have most recently demonstrated then the sustainable part of the goal may be achievable. This is truly an exciting time here at AMSC and time will tell. Our future facing technologies help harmonize the world's desire for decarbonization and clean energy with the need for more reliable, effective and efficient power delivery. I look forward to reporting to you again following the completion of our 2nd fiscal quarter of 2024. Speaker 200:22:18Dave, we'll now take questions from our analysts. Operator00:22:23We will now begin the question and answer session. Our first question comes from Eric Stine with Craig Hallum. Please go Speaker 400:22:52ahead. Hi, Daniel. Hi, John. Speaker 300:22:56Hey, Eric. Good to hear your voice. Speaker 400:22:58Hey, good morning. So on NWL, I can appreciate that you got to work through some things here near term in terms of specifics for the outlook. But I'm curious, are you able to just go through some of the trends that are specifically impacting their business? And is there any reason why there would be a change to the momentum in that business, which is clearly above what you provided in the release of that 3 year average? Speaker 200:23:27Yes. I think we wanted to have the 3 year average to get people to understand kind of the size of the business, how we think of it as we looked at valuing it, trying to understand what we see are the positive parts of the business. But I think you're asking kind of rightfully so. The most recent performance NWL is much stronger than that $55,000,000 average shows. Their business has been growing and the margins have been improving. Speaker 200:23:50They're basically delivering gross margins and operating margins in the range that we've talked about for the entire business. So, it really fits in strategically with what we're doing and the financials fit in perfectly with everything that we've been talking about. Speaker 400:24:05Got it. And then, maybe for my follow-up, just on Inox, I know you got the 3 megawatt order. Can you just remind us what the cadence of recognizing that will be? And is it safe to assume that once through that, you would expect more orders potentially sizable given the size of Inox's backlog? Speaker 200:24:26Yes. Their backlog today stands at north of 2.7 gigawatts in total, which is if you remember even on past calls that's more than double where it had been at. 3rd business is really starting to be positioned to take off. Specifically with the order that we have, as we said in the announcement, we expect that those products to be shipped this fiscal year. So I think that adds to the de risking of the projections that we've talked about for the longer term for the business this year. Speaker 200:24:54So we think Inox is in a great position. We think that they're out selling a great product, which is this new 3 megawatt wind turbine that they have that comes from us from a technology, from a control system standpoint. So when I look at this, Eric, when I look at all the things we're hitting on between new energy orders, Inox orders, this huge, huge order from the Navy, we really feel that we're at a very different position than we were even a couple of quarters ago. And then add in what we're doing with NWL, which I think it sounds like you get pretty well. This is a different company again than it was a year ago. Speaker 200:25:29And I know we've been saying that each year, but we feel like we're really moving the needle with where this business is going to head. Speaker 400:25:37Got it. Thanks. Operator00:25:41The next question comes from Colin Rusch with Oppenheimer. Please go ahead. Speaker 500:25:47Thanks so much, guys. Dan, if you look at NWL and look at the customer list that they've got and the synergy that you guys might have, you talk a little bit about how much synergy there is there for you guys and then we might start to see some of the impact there? And then if you could speak to the same around some of the supply chain and cost savings that you might see? Speaker 200:26:08Yes. I think when you look at the customer base, particularly on the industrial side to start, where they sell their power supplies and controls, they go into the factory. So in an industrial setting, it opens up a whole list of additional customers that we simply just don't serve today. We're focused on is for very large scale transformative projects that are going to change plant equipment and capacity and capability for our customers. And they need substation level power control equipment. Speaker 300:26:37In the Speaker 200:26:38case of NWL, they're in the components that go in the factory that run every day. So I think that's going to open up a whole new sales channel for us to think about how we can sell to those types of industrial customers. But you can hear in my voice and my tenor, what I'm really excited about is the military. It really transforms our reach into the Department of Defense, specifically with the Navy, allows us to think about not just protecting ships, but powering ships. But I think also what should help expedite our ability to get our protection systems on the more ship platforms within the U. Speaker 200:27:12S. Navy. So we think the customer part really pulls. I think on the supply chain as you're asking, yes, I think there's work to be done there and we can improve the supply chain across the board. I think scale in this business matters and I think scale will help us in the longer term to continue to improve financial performance as well. Speaker 500:27:32Thanks so much. So I appreciate the color and the time that you need to work through some of the financial considerations. Having gone through this a few times now with the platform, how long do you think it will take to fully integrate the operation so that you can have clean fully realized synergies here? This looks like a little bit cleaner story than some of the other acquisitions that you've made in the past. Speaker 200:27:57Yes. The difference here I think is the scale. So you have a real operating business generating real operating margin that's been able to do that consistently. They have a culture, they have a systems, they have a management team. This is different than the last two acquisitions in that we're adding a piece that's very well built, very well established on a very nice growth trajectory. Speaker 200:28:18So I think the work in many ways is going to be more straightforward, simpler, easier, less risky, more valuable to us and what we can do together combined. Our team is super excited about NWL. I feel from the team at NWL, they're super excited about us helping them to go to the next step, the next level, the next chapter in their business. So, I think it really is another transformative event for the company. I think to think about from a financial standpoint, it's going to take a few months, a quarter here to kind of understand all the accounting, how all that's going to work. Speaker 200:28:51It's going to take us probably that a little bit more to really get the difference between a private company and forecasting in a public company is frankly different. Our ability to look at risk and assess risk is more honed because we're used to talking to you all and trying to set expectations that we can meet next scene. I frankly don't know from their standpoint how well they're able to do that. Time is going to show as we see the months go by, a quarter or 2 goes by. But from an integration standpoint, it's not a heavy lift to make this into an operation that's going to really help us in performance, that's going to help us with suppliers, it's going to help us with customers, help us with more market reach. Speaker 200:29:31We really love this acquisition on so many dimensions. It fits so well. It feels so much like us already and a part of the business that we think is necessary and need for us to move things forward with many of the customers that we have today. So, we're super jazzed and we don't see it as a high risk acquisition. That being said, the devil is always in the details. Speaker 200:29:52We try to understand how to work through that. We've seen the experience that we've had with Nexi and Mealtran, all very positive. It took us a couple of quarters to kind of get the beat with them and understand how orders are going to come in, how systems are going to work and all of those things. So, I'm hoping as we get to Christmas time or the end of the fiscal year, we're not talking about NWL anymore. We're talking only about AMSC. Speaker 200:30:15We're talking about growth trajectory. We're talking about the great markets and the great customers we serve it with wonderful technology. Thanks so much. Operator00:30:25The next question comes from Justin Clare with Roth Capital Partners. Speaker 600:30:31Hi, good morning. Thanks. So I just wanted to start here also on NWL. Do you or could you potentially share the mix of their military revenues versus their industrial revenues or just give us a sense for the relative size of each of those businesses? And then is it possible to share the gross margin profile for each of those businesses? Speaker 600:30:55Is it meaningfully different between them or are they pretty similar? And then also curious on NWL, just how many ship platforms they might be supplying into at this point in time? Speaker 200:31:11Yes. So let me make sure, Justin, I hit all those because you asked a lot of good questions that I think are important for everybody to understand. So, when you look at the percentage of military versus industrial, it kind of depends on period to period if you're looking at backlog versus revenue that's delivered. But in general, I'd say between 20% 30% of the business is driven by military. We are indicating that we think that's a major growth engine that can happen for us. Speaker 200:31:39I won't say in the next couple of quarters, but certainly in the next couple of years or so. We think that's really a valuable piece of what we're doing. Secondly, from a margin standpoint, when you look at what we've put out there, it fits right in the margin that we're doing this quarter. I mean, it just adds on to the great business that we've already built more of that, which we think is more valuable, not only to us, but to our customers as well. And then there Speaker 300:32:05was a third piece of the question, Justin, that let me make sure I hit. Speaker 600:32:10Yes. Just curious on how many ship platforms NWL is supplying right now. And then just adding on to that, curious on the relative growth that you've seen between the military and the industrial businesses of NWLs. Has one been growing meaningfully faster than the other recently? Just curious on the trends there. Speaker 200:32:35Yes. To answer specifically platforms, I don't want to go to a specific number, but it's multiple. They're on platforms that we want to get to. We're on platforms that they want to get to. So all additive, right, all kind of helps overall. Speaker 200:32:48I see personally, I'll just give you my opinion, I see that the military backlog is strong, growing, puts the business in a nice position, that that's going to become a critical part of the business overall. It's probably as far as I want to go and giving you color on that. Speaker 600:33:05Okay. Okay. And then just one more. I want to make sure I heard you correctly. Did you say that the 12 month backlog for NWAL was 44,000,000 and then there's a total backlog of $150,000,000 so I wanted to check-in on that. Speaker 600:33:20And then just want to ask also about the ability to maybe deliver above the $44,000,000 in the next 12 months based on the timeline of book to bill. So maybe, yes, if you could address that. Thank you. Speaker 200:33:36Yes. Let me talk about book to bill timetable and John can go through and explain the numbers more specifically. But they're typically getting orders that are going to deliver 3, 4 months out. For some projects, it might be 5, 6. So this is a quicker turn business than the other parts of our business, which we love, right? Speaker 200:33:53It gives us the ability to generate orders today and deliver more revenue in December quarter, more revenue in March quarter and certainly more revenue for next year. And they have a nice history of being able to bring that order book in at a nice beat and they've been able to have a growth trajectory overall with their order book and therefore it translates into their revenue. So they're in a really, really good position. And we inherit what we think is really a great backlog that helps bolster where we're going to be the next few quarters here. Yes. Speaker 200:34:20On the backlog, just Speaker 300:34:21to make sure you've heard me correctly, it was $44,000,000 in 12 month backlog, dollars 51,000,000 in total backlog. And I also mentioned that more than half of that $51,000,000 is expected to ship before December 31, 2024. So that will by definition, that 12 month backlog is the second half of that period Speaker 200:34:48will have book and burn Speaker 300:34:49in it since a big chunk of the 12 month backlog is being indicated that it is expected to ship by twelvethirty one. Speaker 200:34:58So out of that fifty one, half of it in the Speaker 300:35:00next 5 months. Right. And if you subtract that from the 44, that would tell you that there's a substantial amount of book and burn that's expected. Eventually, that's what they do. If you look Speaker 200:35:09at the results that they did for the first half, you can see the level that they've been at and we believe that that's a level the business can be at and hopefully grow beyond. Speaker 600:35:20Okay, got it. Appreciate the clarification and thanks for the time. Operator00:35:29This concludes our question and answer session. I would like to turn the call back over to Mr. Gahan for any closing remarks. Speaker 200:35:38Well, I hope you guys hear how excited I am. This was probably the Speaker 600:35:40most excited I've been on any Speaker 200:35:42of these calls. And usually you guys always tell me, boy, that was more exciting than the last one. So hopefully we keep building the excitement here. We delivered a remarkable beginning to fiscal year 2024 with really outstanding financial performance. We're on a whole new level of performance when you look at revenue gross margin. Speaker 200:36:00Great orders quarter, right? So record $75,000,000 ship protection system order, transformative for the business, not only today, but for the future for multiple years. And this inserts our system into one of our Allied Navy's most significant ship platforms. We have this strong acquisition, which you can hear we're super excited about and we believe allows us to reach our goal of sustainable profitability. The business delivered outstanding financial performance with over $3,000,000 of operating cash flow, right? Speaker 200:36:27This is something we've done a lot recently and now the business is at this level. We've expanded gross margins to 30%. You guys have been asking John and I about, well, where can we go? How do we how can we get to, right? And this is a level of gross margins that's higher than what we've talked about at this revenue level for sure. Speaker 200:36:46And we grew revenue by over 30% when we look at the quarter versus a year ago. Dollars 127,000,000 in new orders, mentioned what we did with Canada, but $33,000,000 in new energy power systems orders, so at and above what the trailing average has been. So we continue to build that business. And it's our 3rd 3 megawatt ECS order from Inox Wind, which that business is going to continue. We added NWL, which has really changes the scale of our business and should place us in a strong position to continue our path of diversifying our growth, strictly in the industrial and military sectors. Speaker 200:37:19And I think in the base business, we ended the quarter with $160,000,000 in 12 month backlog and $250,000,000 in total backlog. That's without adding NWL in. And we'll give us the time you're going to see next call, how do we perform, how is NWL doing, how does it add. We're super excited about where the business has been the past few quarters and now where the business is going to head in the next few quarters with the addition of a strong order book that we have and the addition of the great business of MWL. So, I'm very excited to be able to talk to you guys in about a quarter's time about this great business that we've built and the results that we continue to deliver. Speaker 200:37:58Thanks everybody. Operator00:38:03The conference has now concluded. Thank you for attending today's presentation. 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Email Address About American SuperconductorAmerican Superconductor (NASDAQ:AMSC), together with its subsidiaries, provides megawatt-scale power resiliency solutions worldwide. The company operates through Grid and Wind segments. The Grid segment offers products and services that enable electric utilities, industrial facilities, and renewable energy project developers to connect, transmit, and distribute power under the Gridtec Solutions brand. 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The Wind segment designs wind turbine systems and licenses these designs to third parties under the Windtec Solutions brand. It also supplies power electronics and software-based control systems, engineered designs, and support services; and provides customer support services to wind turbine manufacturers. This segment's design portfolio comprises a range of drivetrains and power ratings of 2 megawatts and higher. 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There are 7 speakers on the call. Operator00:00:00Good day, and welcome to the AMSC First Quarter Fiscal 20 24 Financial Results. All participants will be in listen only mode. Please note this event is being recorded. I would now like to turn the conference over to Nicole Gelez, Director of Communications at AMSC. Please go Speaker 100:00:44ahead. Thank you, Dave. Good morning, everyone, and welcome to American Superconductor Corporation's 1st quarter of fiscal year 2024 earnings conference call. I am Nicole Golla, Director of Communications. With us on today's call are Mr. Speaker 100:01:02Daniel McGahn, Chairman, President and Chief Executive Officer and Mr. John Kosiba, Senior Vice President, Chief Financial Officer and Treasurer. American Superconductor issued its earnings release for the Q1 of fiscal year 2024 yesterday after market closed. For those who have not seen the release, a copy is available in the Investors page of the company's website at www.amsstate.com. Before starting the call, I would like to remind you that various remarks management may make about American Superconductor's future expectations, including expectations regarding the company's Q2 of fiscal year 2024 financial performance, plans and prospects constitute forward looking statements for purpose of the Safe Harbor provisions under the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. Speaker 100:02:02Actual results may differ materially from those indicated by such forward looking statements because of various important factors, including those in the Risk Factors section of American Superconductors' Annual Report on Form 10 ks for the year ended March 31, 2024, which company filed with the Securities and Exchange Commission on May 29, 2024 and the company's other reports filed with the SEC. These forward looking statements represent management's expectations only as of today and should not be relied upon as representing management's views as of any day after today. While the company anticipates that subsequent events and developments may cause the company's views to change, the company specifically disclaims any obligation to update these forward looking statements. Also on today's call, management will refer to non GAAP net income, a non GAAP financial measure. The company believes non GAAP net income assists management and investors in comparing the company's performance across reporting periods on a consistent basis by excluding these non cash, non recurring or other charges that it does not believe are indicative of its core operating performance. Speaker 100:03:31The reconciliation of GAAP net loss to non GAAP net income can be found in the Q1 of fiscal year 2024 earnings press release that the company issued and furnished to the SEC last night on Form 8 ks. American Superconductors' press releases and SEC filings can be accessed from the Investors page of its website atwww.amsc.com. With that, I will now turn the call over to Chairman, President and Chief Executive Officer, Mr. Daniel McGann. Daniel? Speaker 200:04:10Thanks, Nicole, and good morning, everyone. I'll begin today by providing an update on our grid and wind business units followed by comments on our recent acquisition. John Kosiba will then provide a detailed review of our financial results for the 1st fiscal quarter, which ended June 30, 2024, provide guidance for the 2nd fiscal quarter, which will end September 30, 2024 and comment on the acquisition. Following our comments, we'll open up the line to questions from our analysts. We're off to a very good start with our new fiscal year. Speaker 200:04:45The business is thriving and we delivered yet another remarkable quarter. Our team reported great results for the Q1 of fiscal 2024. Total revenue for the Q1 came in line with our guidance range and grew by more than 30% versus the year ago period. Our first quarter revenue of $40,000,000 was driven by strong new energy power system shipments. Our grid revenue for the Q1 of fiscal year 2024 accounted for 80% of AMSC's total revenue and grew over 25% versus the year ago period. Speaker 200:05:25The remainder of the revenue came from our wind business, which grew over 75% from a year ago. This is the 2nd quarter in a row than we've been at this $40,000,000 revenue level. We exceeded our average gross margin levels for the quarter through a combination of strong projects and performance in each of our business segments. We ended the 1st quarter with more than $95,000,000 in cash. We had very strong bookings in the Q1 with both new and existing customers for our products. Speaker 200:06:01We announced a record $75,000,000 order of ship protection systems from the Royal Canadian Navy, while New Energy Power Systems came in at about $33,000,000 Our New Energy Power Systems orders represent strong contributions from utilities, industrials, renewables, semiconductors and mining. We received our 3rd follow on order of over $12,000,000 from our wind customer Inox Wind. All told, we generated more than $125,000,000 in new orders in the quarter. This is also a recent record. We ended the quarter with a 12 month backlog of $160,000,000 and a total backlog of $250,000,000 We entered the year at $140,000,000 12 month backlog. Speaker 200:06:54These results and achievements represent our ability to deliver business diversification, financial growth and expanded scale. We are very pleased with these results and encouraged by our orders momentum. Our business appears to be well positioned for the future. Now I'll turn the call over to John Kosiba to review our financial results for the Q1 of fiscal 2024, provide guidance for the Q2 of fiscal 2024, which will end September 30, 2024 and comment on the addition of NWL to the AMSC family. John? Speaker 300:07:30Thanks, Daniel, and good morning, everyone. AMSC generated revenues of $40,300,000 for the Q1 of fiscal 2024 compared to $30,300,000 in the year ago quarter. Our Grid business unit accounted for 80% of total revenues, while our Wind business unit accounted for 20%. Grid business unit revenues increased by 26% in the Q1 versus the year ago quarter. This year over year change was led by revenue growth from our new energy power systems. Speaker 300:08:01Wind business unit revenues increased by 76% in the Q1 versus the year ago quarter. This year over year change was driven by ECS shipments. Looking at the P and L in more detail, gross margin for the Q1 of fiscal 2024 was 30%. This is up from 21% in the year ago quarter. Gross margin for the quarter was favorably impacted by the increased revenues, the pricing increases across our product lines, a favorable product mix including strong service and spare parts revenue as well as elevated levels of factory absorption across our product lines. Speaker 300:08:40We experienced this gross margin expansion due to the drivers I mentioned. This was a perfect combination of events that yielded these elevated gross margins in Q1. We believe that the actions taken over the last couple of years to expand our gross margins will continue to have a positive impact on our business. Moving on to operating expenses. R and D and SG and A expenses for the Q1 of fiscal 2024 were $11,200,000 compared to $9,700,000 in the year ago quarter. Speaker 300:09:15Approximately 11% of R and D and SG and A expenses in the Q1 of fiscal 2024 were non cash. Our net loss in the Q1 of fiscal 2024 was $2,500,000 or $0.07 per share. I'd like to mention that included in our net loss for the quarter was a $3,900,000 consideration revaluation expense related to the NEPSY acquisition, which is a non cash item. If we exclude the contingent consideration, amici would have generated $1,400,000 of net income in the Q1. This compares to a net loss of $5,400,000 or $0.19 per share in the year ago quarter. Speaker 300:09:59Our non GAAP net income for the Q1 of fiscal 2024 was $3,000,000 or $0.09 per share compared with a non GAAP net loss of $2,100,000 or $0.08 per share in the year ago quarter. Please see our press release issued last night for a reconciliation of GAAP to non GAAP results. We ended the Q1 of fiscal 2024 with $95,500,000 in cash, cash equivalents and restricted cash. This compares with $92,300,000 on March 31, 2024. We generated $3,400,000 of operating cash flow in the Q1 of fiscal 2024. Speaker 300:10:38Now turning on to our financial guidance for the Q2 of fiscal 2024, we expect that our revenues will be in the range of $38,000,000 to $42,000,000 Our net loss on net revenue is expected not to exceed $1,700,000 or $0.05 per share. Please note that our net loss guidance assumes no changes in contingent consideration. We expect our non GAAP net income to be at least breakeven before any impact of the acquisition. The company expects operating cash flow in the Q2 of fiscal 2024 to range from breakeven to positive 2,000,000 The company's guidance does not include the impact of the recently announced acquisition of NWL. Additionally, this guidance does not contemplate an approximately $8,000,000 milestone payment that is expected to be paid from our Allied Navy in late September or early October. Speaker 300:11:33That payment could have a significant favorable impact on our operating cash flow if it is received within the quarter. Now I'd like to take a moment to provide a financial summary of the NWL acquisition. On August 1, 2024, AMSC acquired NWL, a private New Jersey based company that sells power supplies and transformers to industrial and military customers. The total consideration paid for the acquisition was approximately $61,400,000 The consideration was comprised of $30,000,000 in cash, dollars 25,000,000 paid at closing and an additional $5,000,000 to be paid after considering various adjustments set forth in the stock purchase agreement. The remaining $31,400,000 was paid by issuing 1,300,000 restricted shares of AMSC common stock to the sellers at closing. Speaker 300:12:27The share price used to calculate the shares paid to the sellers was $24.16 which was the closing price of our stock on the day prior to closing. Summarizing NWL's income statement. NWL has averaged $55,000,000 in revenue over the last 3 years. They've experienced significant growth in their most recent year with calendar 2023 revenues of 72,300,000 dollars Gross margins for calendar 2023 were 24% and operating expenses in calendar 2023 were approximately 12,000,000 dollars The operating margin in calendar 2023 was approximately 11%. Now moving on to the balance sheet. Speaker 300:13:10We acquired the company on a debt free basis. The acquired balance sheet at a close in had approximately $41,200,000 in current assets, $28,400,000 in fixed assets and $1,900,000 in intangible assets. The fixed assets included 2,000,000,000 2 buildings in New Jersey valued at approximately $23,000,000 which are owned outright. We acquired approximately $12,100,000 in short term liabilities and a $6,500,000 deferred tax liability in long term liabilities. Given the fact that AMC has substantial loss carry forwards to apply against future profit, we expect that much of that deferred tax liability will not be realized and will be taken as a tax income benefit in the quarters ahead. Speaker 300:13:59One other point to mention, we acquired a 12 month backlog of approximately $44,000,000 and a total backlog of approximately $51,000,000 More than half of that total backlog is expected to ship before December 31, 2024. As you can see, we acquired a company that we believe has a solid history of financial performance, a strong balance sheet and a backlog that demonstrates the current health of their business. As a result, we are expecting this acquisition to have an immediate positive impact on our financial performance. Looking ahead, we are working through final purchase accounting reconciliations. Due to purchase and accounting activities that need to be finalized in Q2 of fiscal 2024, we are unable to provide any specific guidance regarding the financial impact the acquisition may have on our fiscal 2024 financial results. Speaker 300:14:51With that said, our expectation is that NWL will contribute meaningfully to our consolidated revenue for Q2 fiscal 2024 and will add to our operating cash flow. One last note, we filed an 8 ks last night with the SEC, which includes pro form a financial information that shows the favorable impact the acquisition would have had on our prior year June quarter if the acquisition had occurred as of April 1, 2023 April 1, 2024. Please see the AKA for more information. With that, I'll turn the call back over to Daniel. Thanks, John. Speaker 200:15:31We began fiscal year 2024 with strong orders momentum, solid financial results and what we believe to be a powerful addition to our business. A couple of days ago, we announced the acquisition of NWL. Prior to becoming part of the AMSC family, NWL was a privately held company in New Jersey. It has been owned and operated by the same family for 2 generations for over 50 years. NWL provides power supplies for motor drives for a variety of energy applications as well as for critical military systems. Speaker 200:16:07The acquisition of NWL directly aligns with our strategic priorities to accelerate profitable growth, broaden our product offering and expand our market reach and market share. NWL has a history of profitable revenue with a 3 year average of approximately $55,000,000 per year. The acquisition of NWL is expected to complement and extend our product offerings in the industrial and military sectors. As we expand our military business, we believe NWL has the potential of multiplying our military footprint within the Department of Defense, especially the U. S. Speaker 200:16:48Navy. We see the possibility that with NWL, we may expedite our Navy expansion from our ship protection systems to ship power systems. Today, we install ship protection systems that help Navy ships stay hidden from our enemy threats. Together with ship power systems, we can help power ship functions. We see NWL as part of the next step from protecting the fleet to powering the fleet. Speaker 200:17:19With NWL, we're buying a business that we like, that's run by people we like and run-in a fashion that we like. It's also a company that we know. NWL was a strategic supplier to NEPSY. AMSC looked to also qualify them as a supplier. They are known to solve hard problems for their customers and have an exceptional offering that's typically deployed in hardened industrial and military environments. Speaker 200:17:46We have a lot of respect for NWL and what has been built. Strategically, we made this acquisition with the expectation that it will improve the long term quality of our revenues and earnings with further diversification by region, customer and product. And most importantly, we believe that the acquisition will accelerate our ability to achieve our goal to reach sustainable profitability. In addition to the expected improvement in the quality of our revenues and earnings, we believe that the acquisition of NWL can further expand our industrial market penetration. NWL will provide immediate access to customers we do not have access to today. Speaker 200:18:26Their customer expansion in the industrial side largely resides in the factory, where the customers we serve today are at the substation level. We believe that our strong balance sheet and the addition of NWL positions us for continued growth. This move underscores how we continue to focus on building a more predictable and diversified business. To conclude, we believe the business really is in the best position it's ever been in and continues to improve. We generated non GAAP net income and positive operating cash flow consistently over the past 4 quarters and we are guiding for a possible 5th quarter. Speaker 200:19:14Last quarter, we mentioned the possibility of doubling revenue from our fiscal 2021 levels. Let me remind you those levels were in the $25,000,000 a quarter range. Our notion of getting to $50,000,000 a quarter is now certainly possible. At this $50,000,000 quarterly level, we have the potential to generate net income. The addition of NWL coupled with our strong financial performance changes the scale of our business and should place us in a strong position for continued diversified growth. Speaker 200:19:48We have several tailwinds generated by U. S. Policies and momentum in our wind and ship businesses that hopefully will continue to drive our company's growth. During our Q1, we announced our first Allied Navy contract with the Royal Canadian Navy for our Ship Protection Systems or SPS. Through this multi year contract, we expect to deliver our proprietary SPS hardware, provide engineering services, integration and commissioning of the system into multiple Canadian surface combatants. Speaker 200:20:21We are diligently working with Irving Shipbuilding, a Canadian shipbuilder that has constructed over 80% of Canada's fleet at sea today to deliver our first SPS system by 2026. We are grateful to be contracted to provide world class mine protection to the Canadian Surface Combatant Platform and its sailors. In addition, we have a total of 5 SPS contracts for the U. S. Navy San Antonio class LPD and are working on our proprietary mine countermeasure or MCM system. Speaker 200:20:54We are designed into multiple ship platforms, LPD for the U. S. Navy and CSC for the Royal Canadian Navy and we hope add our U. S. Navy ship platform with the addition of the MCM product when it goes into production. Speaker 200:21:08We see expanding opportunities, especially in the military business. NWL's military progress coupled with AMSCs present an exciting opportunity to expedite AMSC's Navy expansion from protection systems to ship power systems. The 2 companies together are expected to provide a powerful combination. We are keenly focused on our ability to achieve our goal of sustainable profitability. We are very close. Speaker 200:21:39If you listen to John Kasiba's comments carefully, you may understand that we may already be there. If NWL can continue to contribute in a similar manner as they have most recently demonstrated then the sustainable part of the goal may be achievable. This is truly an exciting time here at AMSC and time will tell. Our future facing technologies help harmonize the world's desire for decarbonization and clean energy with the need for more reliable, effective and efficient power delivery. I look forward to reporting to you again following the completion of our 2nd fiscal quarter of 2024. Speaker 200:22:18Dave, we'll now take questions from our analysts. Operator00:22:23We will now begin the question and answer session. Our first question comes from Eric Stine with Craig Hallum. Please go Speaker 400:22:52ahead. Hi, Daniel. Hi, John. Speaker 300:22:56Hey, Eric. Good to hear your voice. Speaker 400:22:58Hey, good morning. So on NWL, I can appreciate that you got to work through some things here near term in terms of specifics for the outlook. But I'm curious, are you able to just go through some of the trends that are specifically impacting their business? And is there any reason why there would be a change to the momentum in that business, which is clearly above what you provided in the release of that 3 year average? Speaker 200:23:27Yes. I think we wanted to have the 3 year average to get people to understand kind of the size of the business, how we think of it as we looked at valuing it, trying to understand what we see are the positive parts of the business. But I think you're asking kind of rightfully so. The most recent performance NWL is much stronger than that $55,000,000 average shows. Their business has been growing and the margins have been improving. Speaker 200:23:50They're basically delivering gross margins and operating margins in the range that we've talked about for the entire business. So, it really fits in strategically with what we're doing and the financials fit in perfectly with everything that we've been talking about. Speaker 400:24:05Got it. And then, maybe for my follow-up, just on Inox, I know you got the 3 megawatt order. Can you just remind us what the cadence of recognizing that will be? And is it safe to assume that once through that, you would expect more orders potentially sizable given the size of Inox's backlog? Speaker 200:24:26Yes. Their backlog today stands at north of 2.7 gigawatts in total, which is if you remember even on past calls that's more than double where it had been at. 3rd business is really starting to be positioned to take off. Specifically with the order that we have, as we said in the announcement, we expect that those products to be shipped this fiscal year. So I think that adds to the de risking of the projections that we've talked about for the longer term for the business this year. Speaker 200:24:54So we think Inox is in a great position. We think that they're out selling a great product, which is this new 3 megawatt wind turbine that they have that comes from us from a technology, from a control system standpoint. So when I look at this, Eric, when I look at all the things we're hitting on between new energy orders, Inox orders, this huge, huge order from the Navy, we really feel that we're at a very different position than we were even a couple of quarters ago. And then add in what we're doing with NWL, which I think it sounds like you get pretty well. This is a different company again than it was a year ago. Speaker 200:25:29And I know we've been saying that each year, but we feel like we're really moving the needle with where this business is going to head. Speaker 400:25:37Got it. Thanks. Operator00:25:41The next question comes from Colin Rusch with Oppenheimer. Please go ahead. Speaker 500:25:47Thanks so much, guys. Dan, if you look at NWL and look at the customer list that they've got and the synergy that you guys might have, you talk a little bit about how much synergy there is there for you guys and then we might start to see some of the impact there? And then if you could speak to the same around some of the supply chain and cost savings that you might see? Speaker 200:26:08Yes. I think when you look at the customer base, particularly on the industrial side to start, where they sell their power supplies and controls, they go into the factory. So in an industrial setting, it opens up a whole list of additional customers that we simply just don't serve today. We're focused on is for very large scale transformative projects that are going to change plant equipment and capacity and capability for our customers. And they need substation level power control equipment. Speaker 300:26:37In the Speaker 200:26:38case of NWL, they're in the components that go in the factory that run every day. So I think that's going to open up a whole new sales channel for us to think about how we can sell to those types of industrial customers. But you can hear in my voice and my tenor, what I'm really excited about is the military. It really transforms our reach into the Department of Defense, specifically with the Navy, allows us to think about not just protecting ships, but powering ships. But I think also what should help expedite our ability to get our protection systems on the more ship platforms within the U. Speaker 200:27:12S. Navy. So we think the customer part really pulls. I think on the supply chain as you're asking, yes, I think there's work to be done there and we can improve the supply chain across the board. I think scale in this business matters and I think scale will help us in the longer term to continue to improve financial performance as well. Speaker 500:27:32Thanks so much. So I appreciate the color and the time that you need to work through some of the financial considerations. Having gone through this a few times now with the platform, how long do you think it will take to fully integrate the operation so that you can have clean fully realized synergies here? This looks like a little bit cleaner story than some of the other acquisitions that you've made in the past. Speaker 200:27:57Yes. The difference here I think is the scale. So you have a real operating business generating real operating margin that's been able to do that consistently. They have a culture, they have a systems, they have a management team. This is different than the last two acquisitions in that we're adding a piece that's very well built, very well established on a very nice growth trajectory. Speaker 200:28:18So I think the work in many ways is going to be more straightforward, simpler, easier, less risky, more valuable to us and what we can do together combined. Our team is super excited about NWL. I feel from the team at NWL, they're super excited about us helping them to go to the next step, the next level, the next chapter in their business. So, I think it really is another transformative event for the company. I think to think about from a financial standpoint, it's going to take a few months, a quarter here to kind of understand all the accounting, how all that's going to work. Speaker 200:28:51It's going to take us probably that a little bit more to really get the difference between a private company and forecasting in a public company is frankly different. Our ability to look at risk and assess risk is more honed because we're used to talking to you all and trying to set expectations that we can meet next scene. I frankly don't know from their standpoint how well they're able to do that. Time is going to show as we see the months go by, a quarter or 2 goes by. But from an integration standpoint, it's not a heavy lift to make this into an operation that's going to really help us in performance, that's going to help us with suppliers, it's going to help us with customers, help us with more market reach. Speaker 200:29:31We really love this acquisition on so many dimensions. It fits so well. It feels so much like us already and a part of the business that we think is necessary and need for us to move things forward with many of the customers that we have today. So, we're super jazzed and we don't see it as a high risk acquisition. That being said, the devil is always in the details. Speaker 200:29:52We try to understand how to work through that. We've seen the experience that we've had with Nexi and Mealtran, all very positive. It took us a couple of quarters to kind of get the beat with them and understand how orders are going to come in, how systems are going to work and all of those things. So, I'm hoping as we get to Christmas time or the end of the fiscal year, we're not talking about NWL anymore. We're talking only about AMSC. Speaker 200:30:15We're talking about growth trajectory. We're talking about the great markets and the great customers we serve it with wonderful technology. Thanks so much. Operator00:30:25The next question comes from Justin Clare with Roth Capital Partners. Speaker 600:30:31Hi, good morning. Thanks. So I just wanted to start here also on NWL. Do you or could you potentially share the mix of their military revenues versus their industrial revenues or just give us a sense for the relative size of each of those businesses? And then is it possible to share the gross margin profile for each of those businesses? Speaker 600:30:55Is it meaningfully different between them or are they pretty similar? And then also curious on NWL, just how many ship platforms they might be supplying into at this point in time? Speaker 200:31:11Yes. So let me make sure, Justin, I hit all those because you asked a lot of good questions that I think are important for everybody to understand. So, when you look at the percentage of military versus industrial, it kind of depends on period to period if you're looking at backlog versus revenue that's delivered. But in general, I'd say between 20% 30% of the business is driven by military. We are indicating that we think that's a major growth engine that can happen for us. Speaker 200:31:39I won't say in the next couple of quarters, but certainly in the next couple of years or so. We think that's really a valuable piece of what we're doing. Secondly, from a margin standpoint, when you look at what we've put out there, it fits right in the margin that we're doing this quarter. I mean, it just adds on to the great business that we've already built more of that, which we think is more valuable, not only to us, but to our customers as well. And then there Speaker 300:32:05was a third piece of the question, Justin, that let me make sure I hit. Speaker 600:32:10Yes. Just curious on how many ship platforms NWL is supplying right now. And then just adding on to that, curious on the relative growth that you've seen between the military and the industrial businesses of NWLs. Has one been growing meaningfully faster than the other recently? Just curious on the trends there. Speaker 200:32:35Yes. To answer specifically platforms, I don't want to go to a specific number, but it's multiple. They're on platforms that we want to get to. We're on platforms that they want to get to. So all additive, right, all kind of helps overall. Speaker 200:32:48I see personally, I'll just give you my opinion, I see that the military backlog is strong, growing, puts the business in a nice position, that that's going to become a critical part of the business overall. It's probably as far as I want to go and giving you color on that. Speaker 600:33:05Okay. Okay. And then just one more. I want to make sure I heard you correctly. Did you say that the 12 month backlog for NWAL was 44,000,000 and then there's a total backlog of $150,000,000 so I wanted to check-in on that. Speaker 600:33:20And then just want to ask also about the ability to maybe deliver above the $44,000,000 in the next 12 months based on the timeline of book to bill. So maybe, yes, if you could address that. Thank you. Speaker 200:33:36Yes. Let me talk about book to bill timetable and John can go through and explain the numbers more specifically. But they're typically getting orders that are going to deliver 3, 4 months out. For some projects, it might be 5, 6. So this is a quicker turn business than the other parts of our business, which we love, right? Speaker 200:33:53It gives us the ability to generate orders today and deliver more revenue in December quarter, more revenue in March quarter and certainly more revenue for next year. And they have a nice history of being able to bring that order book in at a nice beat and they've been able to have a growth trajectory overall with their order book and therefore it translates into their revenue. So they're in a really, really good position. And we inherit what we think is really a great backlog that helps bolster where we're going to be the next few quarters here. Yes. Speaker 200:34:20On the backlog, just Speaker 300:34:21to make sure you've heard me correctly, it was $44,000,000 in 12 month backlog, dollars 51,000,000 in total backlog. And I also mentioned that more than half of that $51,000,000 is expected to ship before December 31, 2024. So that will by definition, that 12 month backlog is the second half of that period Speaker 200:34:48will have book and burn Speaker 300:34:49in it since a big chunk of the 12 month backlog is being indicated that it is expected to ship by twelvethirty one. Speaker 200:34:58So out of that fifty one, half of it in the Speaker 300:35:00next 5 months. Right. And if you subtract that from the 44, that would tell you that there's a substantial amount of book and burn that's expected. Eventually, that's what they do. If you look Speaker 200:35:09at the results that they did for the first half, you can see the level that they've been at and we believe that that's a level the business can be at and hopefully grow beyond. Speaker 600:35:20Okay, got it. Appreciate the clarification and thanks for the time. Operator00:35:29This concludes our question and answer session. I would like to turn the call back over to Mr. Gahan for any closing remarks. Speaker 200:35:38Well, I hope you guys hear how excited I am. This was probably the Speaker 600:35:40most excited I've been on any Speaker 200:35:42of these calls. And usually you guys always tell me, boy, that was more exciting than the last one. So hopefully we keep building the excitement here. We delivered a remarkable beginning to fiscal year 2024 with really outstanding financial performance. We're on a whole new level of performance when you look at revenue gross margin. Speaker 200:36:00Great orders quarter, right? So record $75,000,000 ship protection system order, transformative for the business, not only today, but for the future for multiple years. And this inserts our system into one of our Allied Navy's most significant ship platforms. We have this strong acquisition, which you can hear we're super excited about and we believe allows us to reach our goal of sustainable profitability. The business delivered outstanding financial performance with over $3,000,000 of operating cash flow, right? Speaker 200:36:27This is something we've done a lot recently and now the business is at this level. We've expanded gross margins to 30%. You guys have been asking John and I about, well, where can we go? How do we how can we get to, right? And this is a level of gross margins that's higher than what we've talked about at this revenue level for sure. Speaker 200:36:46And we grew revenue by over 30% when we look at the quarter versus a year ago. Dollars 127,000,000 in new orders, mentioned what we did with Canada, but $33,000,000 in new energy power systems orders, so at and above what the trailing average has been. So we continue to build that business. And it's our 3rd 3 megawatt ECS order from Inox Wind, which that business is going to continue. We added NWL, which has really changes the scale of our business and should place us in a strong position to continue our path of diversifying our growth, strictly in the industrial and military sectors. Speaker 200:37:19And I think in the base business, we ended the quarter with $160,000,000 in 12 month backlog and $250,000,000 in total backlog. That's without adding NWL in. And we'll give us the time you're going to see next call, how do we perform, how is NWL doing, how does it add. We're super excited about where the business has been the past few quarters and now where the business is going to head in the next few quarters with the addition of a strong order book that we have and the addition of the great business of MWL. So, I'm very excited to be able to talk to you guys in about a quarter's time about this great business that we've built and the results that we continue to deliver. Speaker 200:37:58Thanks everybody. Operator00:38:03The conference has now concluded. Thank you for attending today's presentation. You may now disconnect.Read morePowered by