Modiv Industrial Q2 2024 Earnings Report $14.26 +0.02 (+0.11%) As of 03:58 PM Eastern This is a fair market value price provided by Polygon.io. Learn more. Earnings HistoryForecast Modiv Industrial EPS ResultsActual EPS$0.03Consensus EPS $0.31Beat/MissMissed by -$0.28One Year Ago EPS$0.31Modiv Industrial Revenue ResultsActual Revenue$11.34 millionExpected Revenue$11.76 millionBeat/MissMissed by -$420.00 thousandYoY Revenue GrowthN/AModiv Industrial Announcement DetailsQuarterQ2 2024Date8/6/2024TimeBefore Market OpensConference Call DateTuesday, August 6, 2024Conference Call Time10:30AM ETUpcoming EarningsModiv Industrial's Q1 2025 earnings is scheduled for Thursday, May 1, 2025, with a conference call scheduled at 10:30 AM ET. Check back for transcripts, audio, and key financial metrics as they become available.Q1 2025 Earnings ReportConference Call ResourcesConference Call AudioConference Call TranscriptPress Release (8-K)Quarterly Report (10-Q)Earnings HistoryMDV ProfilePowered by Modiv Industrial Q2 2024 Earnings Call TranscriptProvided by QuartrAugust 6, 2024 ShareLink copied to clipboard.There are 8 speakers on the call. Operator00:00:00Good day, and welcome to Motive Industrial Link's 2Q24 Conference Call. All participants will be in a listen only mode. On today's call, management will provide the prepared remarks and then we will open up the call for your questions. Please note this event is being recorded. I would now like to turn the conference over to John Rainey, Chief Operating Officer and General Counsel. Operator00:00:41Please go ahead. Speaker 100:00:44Thank you, operator, and you everyone for joining us for Motive Industrial's 2nd quarter 2024 earnings call. We issued our earnings release before market opened this morning, and it's available on our website at motive.com. I'm here today with Aaron Halfacre, Chief Executive Officer and Ray Facchini, Chief Financial Officer. On today's call, management will provide prepared remarks and then we'll open up the call for your questions. Before we begin, I would like to remind you that today's comments will include forward looking statements under the federal securities laws. Speaker 100:01:17Forward looking statements are identified by words such as will, be, intend, believe, expect, anticipate or other comparable words and phrases. Statements that are not historical facts, such as statements about our expected acquisitions or dispositions, joint ventures and strategic partner discussions are also forward looking statements. Our actual financial condition and results of operations may vary materially from those contemplated by such forward looking statements. Discussion of the factors that could cause our results to differ materially from these forward looking statements is contained in our SEC filings, including our reports on Form 10 ks and 10 Q. With that said, I would like to turn the call over to Aaron Hafreker. Speaker 100:01:57Aaron? Speaker 200:01:59Thanks, John. Hello, everybody. Thanks for joining our Q2 conference call. Most of you would rather be tracking the stocks on your watch list in this volatile market. So our goal is to try to make this a snappy one. Speaker 200:02:13I said all my prepared remarks like I normally do in the earnings release. So let's just jump straight to Ray and then we'll go to Q and A. Ray? Speaker 300:02:21Thank you, Aaron. I'll begin with an overview of our 2nd quarter operating results. Rental income for the Q2 was $11,300,000 compared with $11,800,000 in the prior year period. This 4% decrease primarily reflects a decrease in tenant reimbursements related to 13 properties sold to GIPR in August 2023, which included properties with modified gross leases and double net leases. Rental income for the quarter also reflects the impact of 12 industrial manufacturing property acquisitions during 2023, partially offset by 16 dispositions of non core properties from August 1, 2023 to February 28, 2024. Speaker 300:03:102nd quarter adjusted funds from operations or AFFO was $3,900,000 up 17% when compared to the $3,300,000 in the year ago quarter. The increase in AFFO primarily reflects an $834,000 decrease in property expenses and $179,000 decrease in G and A, which were partially offset by the $493,000 decrease in rental income. The increase in AFFO was impacted on a per share basis by a $781,000 increase in diluted shares outstanding, resulting in AFFO per share of $0.34 compared with $0.31 in the prior year period. The current period AFFO includes non recurring state and property tax refunds of $138,000 Speaker 400:04:04or $0.01 per share Speaker 300:04:04and a decrease in G and A expenses of approximately $179,000 or $0.02 per share due to timing of expenses that will be reflected in the Q3. If our repurchase of 7 and 80,000 shares from First City Investment Group on August 1 that occurred at the beginning of the quarter, pro form a AFFO would have been $0.37 per fully diluted share. Cash interest expense for the quarter was approximately $25,000 greater than the comparable period of 2023 when we drew the final $80,000,000 of our term loan in mid April 2023. The current period expense included $550,000 of unrealized non cash net losses on swap valuations, which increased interest expense, while the prior year period included $3,700,000 of unrealized gains on swap valuations, which decreased interest expense. Now turning to our portfolio. Speaker 300:05:10Following the July 2020 4 acquisition of a Photonics manufacturing property located in the Tampa MSA, our 43 property portfolio has an attractive weighted average lease term of 13.6 years. Though the majority of our tenant credits are private, approximately 34% of our tenants or the parent companies have an investment grade rating from a formally recognized credit agency of BBB- or better. Annualized base rent for our 43 properties totals $40,500,000 on a pro form a basis as of June 30, 2024, with 39 industrial properties representing 76% of ABR and 4 non core properties representing 24% of ABR. With respect to our balance sheet and liquidity, as of June 30, 2024, total cash and cash equivalents were $18,900,000 and we had $280,000,000 of debt outstanding. Our Tampa property acquisition and a repurchase of 780,000 shares from First City reduced our cash position to $3,200,000 following quarter end. Speaker 300:06:24Our debt consists of $31,000,000 of mortgages on 2 consolidated properties and $250,000,000 of outstanding borrowings on our $400,000,000 credit facility, and we do not have any debt maturities until January 2027. Based on interest rate swap agreements we entered into during 2022, 100% of our indebtedness as of June 30, 2024 held a fixed interest rate with a weighted average interest rate of 4 point 5 2 percent based on our leverage ratio of 47 percent at quarter end. We are actively evaluating the changing interest rate environment and presently intend to enter into new swap agreements on or before December 31, 2024 to continue our full cash hedge position. As previously announced, our Board of Directors declared a cash dividend per common share of approximately $0.095 for the month of July, August September 2024, representing an annualized dividend rate of $1.15 per share of common stock. This represents a yield of 7.79 percent based on the $14.76 closing price of our common stock as of yesterday. Speaker 300:07:40I'll now turn the call back over to Aaron. Speaker 200:07:44Thanks, Ray. Okay, the fun part begins here where you guys get to ask your questions and I tend to talk too much. But before we do jump to Q and A, I want to address 2 things. Mr. Maher, I know my missives tend to be dramatic, but they're not meant to be, they're meant to be cryptic though. Speaker 200:08:04And the reason is that there are a lot of constituents out there and so there may be some messaging in those. They're so cryptic though that sometimes they could be confusing. So to that end, Mr. Stevenson, I want to point out that the portfolio in the JV is not focused on the city of Miami. Just to be clear, it is diversified in its geography. Speaker 200:08:29So with that, operator, let's go to Q and A. Operator00:08:51And our first question comes from the line of Gaurav Mehta with Alliance Global Partners. Please proceed. Speaker 500:08:57Yes, thank you. Good morning. I wanted to ask you on the JV, wondering if you were willing to disclose any more details on what's the size of the JV and do you expect to derive any management fee, property management fee once you get into the JV? Speaker 200:09:15So appreciate the question, figured you get it. You should generally assume that I will try to tell you everything I can. So I will not tell you statistics on that portfolio at this stage. And I have my reasons, so you got to trust me on that. As it relates to the JV fee though, we do not we're not doing this as sort of a fee generation thing. Speaker 200:09:39So this is a participation. So we will ratably be participating in the income and expenses and we're not looking to make any fees at all. Speaker 500:09:53Okay. Second question maybe big picture, any color on what you guys are seeing in the transaction market for industrial manufacturing? Speaker 200:10:02Yes. Just I mean, you're seeing one offs continue this whole year, it's been one offs, you'll get something comes up and sometimes the cap rates look attractive, but there's a reason they look attractive, but they're not really attractive. The credit is pretty thin or they're desperate for cash or something like that. Other times, on the more solid ones, they're not and they're not in a rush to sell, then the cap rates are too tight. So it hasn't been it's been a really not unlike our stock, it's been a really choppy market for industrial manufacturing. Speaker 200:10:35Remember, we're pretty picky. I don't look and deem sort of light assembly as manufacturing. I don't look at flex spaces as manufacturing. We're looking for things that are really durable in terms of their products, in terms of where they are in their market segment. So that narrows the universe. Speaker 200:10:55But it's been a pretty choppy. As you can expect, I mean, it's just been I mean, if you like for instance on the Tampa Bay deal we did, the reason why we were comfortable doing that one and obviously it had a good client list that were buying their products there and making something that was sort of very durable and needed for infrastructure based needs. But more importantly, the money from the sale leaseback went and we tied it to this, to make an acquisition overseas that did the same thing. So by doing this acquisition, they were more than doubling their top line and really getting synergies. So to us, that was a smart use of capital versus if it had been a PE shop who was just stripping out cash. Speaker 200:11:41And so there's so many different motivations into why we choose or why we think there's a good market or a bad market for assets. And right now, it's just been hit or miss. So we look, but there's not a lot of volume. It's not like you're buying Walgreens. Speaker 500:11:58Okay. Thank you. That's all I had. Speaker 200:12:01Thanks. Operator00:12:04The next question comes from the line of Rob Stevenson with Janney Montgomery Scott. Please proceed. Speaker 600:12:11Good morning. Aaron, can you talk about the expected timing on the non Miami centric Battleship deal? Is this likely a Q3 event if it happens? Speaker 200:12:22Yes. Okay. I think if it pulls together on the page we're working on, it will happen before the Q is my guide. Okay, Speaker 600:12:31perfect. And then can you talk about what is your role? Are you going to be in charge of managing these assets? Is it essentially a passive sort of ownership interest? Like how should we be thinking about these in your involvement? Speaker 200:12:48Yes, we'll plug them into our ecosystem. We'll manage them. The PE sponsor, we'll actually be stepping into the position of a prior joint venture partner that was that had or has a much smaller percentage than right now than what we are anticipating acquiring. So it will be a more equitable partner relationship, but we will do the management on a day to day basis, including property management, accounting, all those aspects. And the private equity sponsor will continue in what I would characterize as more of a passive role. Speaker 600:13:34Okay. And the materiality of the deal isn't such that given your current size that you'd need to get any type of approvals other than from the Board for the share issuance? Speaker 200:13:50That is correct. Speaker 600:13:51Okay. And then sort of switching gears here a bit, how should we be thinking about First City going forward? Or is this just a staggered sort of deal? Or they want to sell out of their remaining shares and units and going forward now do they own primarily shares or units at this point? Speaker 200:14:11Great questions. First City is a wonderful investor. We think highly of them and have had a dialogue with them for the last 2 years or 2 plus years. They're very smart investors. So even though on the surface this was smart for Motive, they have a history of making money in the space that they deal with, which tends to be in the automotive dealership space. Speaker 200:14:42So they now have only common shares. They are still a significant shareholder. So they have a meaningful size. They have had those shares that were not they were converted from OP units to shares back, I want to say in January. So they've had those at the possession. Speaker 200:15:05So those are freely tradable. They're allowed to do what they want. Obviously, I don't ask them about their business. So but they if they are going to stay longer term, I don't know. We hope they do. Speaker 200:15:22We think the world of them. And this was just a transaction that met the needs of both parties. So they have no more OP units though and this ended the OP units, which was the original cycle of the 7/21 transaction. Speaker 600:15:37Okay, that's helpful. And then how are you thinking about the most appropriate time to monetize the Kia asset? Is that a 'twenty four event at some point in time? Is that a wait for rates to come down and probably more likely a 'twenty five event? How should we be thinking about that in the current market environment? Speaker 400:15:58Yes, I think Speaker 200:16:01that is a great property with a great lease, with a great tenant. And in my view, in this rate environment, you would only get punished. You wouldn't get the credit that you're due. I think it's a natural candidate along with our Costco and OES as recycling because they are non core. We Costco is as we know, we just previously disclosed is underway. Speaker 200:16:35The other tenant OES has indicated that they are, as I mentioned before, interested in exercising their option purchase option. It's an arduous process for them as a government entity. So we don't know until we know. But those are probably the natural first candidates. And then at the right time, we would execute on Kia. Speaker 200:16:58And I think because there's a substantial embedded gain in that, we'd have to be very it'd have to be tied very much to a 1031 exchange. And so that could be new assets out there, another portfolio, it could be the second half of this aforementioned JV. I think there's a lot of opportunities to naturally sequence that. But I don't I have zero Speaker 600:17:29Costco, at this point given the way that KB is moving, what's the sense as the earliest that that deal closes for you guys? Speaker 200:17:41It's really up to their the zonings and the final permits. But I don't like I we're earmarking sort of mid next year. And right now, we don't see any reason why that would be earlier. There is provisions for it to be earlier. I don't think it would be earlier than February of next year. Speaker 200:18:01So it's definitely a 25% event. Speaker 600:18:04All right. And then the last one for me. You mentioned in your comments that Adam and Curtis are leaving the Board. So you're losing your Chairman and your Lead Director. How are you thinking and the Board thinking about that going forward? Speaker 600:18:17Will the Board shrink? Is there anyone on the Board currently going to step up and take on those roles? And how committed are you in the company keeping the CEO and Chairman roles separate at this point? Speaker 200:18:31CEO and Chairman role will be separate. That's best practice. There's nothing there. We will, by the time we file a proxy, have all those items addressed in a thorough manner. And so we've we have put thought towards it. Speaker 200:18:47And I'd say we're not ready for to get our proxy out yet. That'll be soon. We wanted to get this JV due diligence underway. And so by the time we do that, it will be fully vetted and out with it. But we'll maintain the same sort of professional integrity that we've always done with our Board. Speaker 200:19:10And it's disappointing to have rotation, but it's been 5 years, it's been a long time and they've got other things to do. So we're I'm very grateful for their service and when whoever comes on next will look they'll have a high bar to measure to. Speaker 600:19:30All right. Thanks. Appreciate the time this morning. Operator00:19:35And the next And the next question comes from the line of Bryan Maher with B. Riley Securities. Please proceed. Speaker 700:19:41Hi. This is Brandon on for Bryan, but I will certainly pass along the message. Most of our questions have been answered, but two quick ones from us. So first one was just the probability on kind of the current strategic partnership going forward versus kind of the probability of the other strategic partnership option, if you can delve into that? Speaker 200:20:09Yes. So I think there's some logic to sequencing them. And this one is one that we could fast track a little bit better. During the course of the summer, we've had I mean, our share price was at $15.75 it was at $13.95 We had so much market and rate volatility that it makes it hard to negotiate if you're trying to engineer a certain outcome. And so patience is key and that's kind of what I talked about. Speaker 200:20:45This one though is of the 2 and they're both great opportunities and they're both very strategic, but they're different in terms of the composition. And so this one is one that we can execute faster. And I think it also only dovetails. And so I think if anything doing this one first helps strengthen the opportunity for the second one. And so that's how I would describe it. Speaker 200:21:15I don't it wasn't an either or decision. And in my ideal world, it will be the combination of 3 battleships. Speaker 700:21:24Got it. And you talked about your acquisitions, but I was just curious on the disposition pipeline, whether you're receiving offers on existing properties or underperforming properties, any color there? And That's all for Speaker 200:21:41me. Thanks, Brandon. There are no properties held for sale right now. We've clearly signaled that non core assets, particularly the office assets are natural recycling candidate. We have some industrial assets that are less manufacturing and more distribution that could be candidates down the road. Speaker 200:22:04But right now nothing is for sale. We did a big transaction last year with the 13 property portfolio we obviously sold to earlier this year. So I think we're always able to sell and if we find the right opportunity, we will execute. That said, if you've got a good property with good operations or that and you don't want to necessarily sell into this market because you're just going to get cut off at the knees unless you have to. And so we don't feel any urgency to have to do anything and so we'll continue to be smart. Speaker 200:22:43Thanks. Operator00:22:49And the next question comes from the line of Sean Hoster with Net Lease Observer. Please proceed. Speaker 400:22:55Hey, Aaron. Good morning. Curious if there's any specific watch list changes for you guys from a tenant credit exposure perspective? And then secondarily, I'm Speaker 200:23:08hearing a Speaker 400:23:09lot of talk in the market about pricing between investment grade and non investment grade assets. Just would love to hear how you and your team think about pricing assets depending on credit profile? Speaker 200:23:21Sure. I think the credit profile IG, non IG frame of mind is highly conducive to sort of traditional net lease. And what I've seen by traditional net lease is I think of NNN or O or Agri or NetSuite, they're buying a lot of retail and there is a wide spectrum of credit quality and that way of thinking about it is built into a lot of other net lease product types. And I think for good reason, right, because these are not unlike bonds and so the credit matters. I think when it pertains to industrial manufacturing, it's hard to fit that square peg into a round hole. Speaker 200:24:10And what I mean by that is you have a lot of private middle market credits typically. We're not buying Intel manufacturing fabs that would be like 4 times our market cap just to buy one of those. And so we're buying really durable infrastructure based manufacturers that have typically been around for a long time. They can either be individually owned, some of them are public. I think our look through basis on rated credits that are investment grade is 34% of the portfolio. Speaker 200:24:41I think O's is like 37%, but it's completely apples and oranges, right? There's no real comparison. So for us, if we can find someone that's investment grade and it makes sense and that's the actual guarantor on the lease, that's fantastic. Will we buy a crappy manufacturing location just because it's investment grade? No. Speaker 200:25:03Well, we got to make sure that it's a durable tenant in terms of it's been around for a long time, what they're making is essential, that they have a good market share of what they do make. Hopefully, all or at least the majority of their manufacturing is in our facility. So it makes it very, very low likelihood of rejection, right, because rejection in our case is a real dire outcome. It's not like a linens thing where I can just go re box it. And so we think about it differently. Speaker 200:25:32It's certainly important. We run internal and external credit every time we do a deal. But the IG thing doesn't always necessarily fit. As terms of pricing, what I alluded to go off, we're not seeing a ton out there. The pricing is either wide and because they're desperate and they're trying to bait someone into taking it. Speaker 200:25:53So they'll say, hey, it's an 8% cap or 8.5% cap, but it's really probably a 10% cap, if you look at the true risk or it's a really good portfolio and they know it and say market is prevailing market, it might be 7.5% and they want 6 point 5 and you're like, well, that was 2 years ago. And so it's kind of choppy. There's not a whole lot. Ours is really a case by case thing. There's not a lot of observations to be to draw a trend line from. Speaker 200:26:17So sorry, I can't answer that better. Speaker 400:26:21Great. That's helpful color. 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There are 8 speakers on the call. Operator00:00:00Good day, and welcome to Motive Industrial Link's 2Q24 Conference Call. All participants will be in a listen only mode. On today's call, management will provide the prepared remarks and then we will open up the call for your questions. Please note this event is being recorded. I would now like to turn the conference over to John Rainey, Chief Operating Officer and General Counsel. Operator00:00:41Please go ahead. Speaker 100:00:44Thank you, operator, and you everyone for joining us for Motive Industrial's 2nd quarter 2024 earnings call. We issued our earnings release before market opened this morning, and it's available on our website at motive.com. I'm here today with Aaron Halfacre, Chief Executive Officer and Ray Facchini, Chief Financial Officer. On today's call, management will provide prepared remarks and then we'll open up the call for your questions. Before we begin, I would like to remind you that today's comments will include forward looking statements under the federal securities laws. Speaker 100:01:17Forward looking statements are identified by words such as will, be, intend, believe, expect, anticipate or other comparable words and phrases. Statements that are not historical facts, such as statements about our expected acquisitions or dispositions, joint ventures and strategic partner discussions are also forward looking statements. Our actual financial condition and results of operations may vary materially from those contemplated by such forward looking statements. Discussion of the factors that could cause our results to differ materially from these forward looking statements is contained in our SEC filings, including our reports on Form 10 ks and 10 Q. With that said, I would like to turn the call over to Aaron Hafreker. Speaker 100:01:57Aaron? Speaker 200:01:59Thanks, John. Hello, everybody. Thanks for joining our Q2 conference call. Most of you would rather be tracking the stocks on your watch list in this volatile market. So our goal is to try to make this a snappy one. Speaker 200:02:13I said all my prepared remarks like I normally do in the earnings release. So let's just jump straight to Ray and then we'll go to Q and A. Ray? Speaker 300:02:21Thank you, Aaron. I'll begin with an overview of our 2nd quarter operating results. Rental income for the Q2 was $11,300,000 compared with $11,800,000 in the prior year period. This 4% decrease primarily reflects a decrease in tenant reimbursements related to 13 properties sold to GIPR in August 2023, which included properties with modified gross leases and double net leases. Rental income for the quarter also reflects the impact of 12 industrial manufacturing property acquisitions during 2023, partially offset by 16 dispositions of non core properties from August 1, 2023 to February 28, 2024. Speaker 300:03:102nd quarter adjusted funds from operations or AFFO was $3,900,000 up 17% when compared to the $3,300,000 in the year ago quarter. The increase in AFFO primarily reflects an $834,000 decrease in property expenses and $179,000 decrease in G and A, which were partially offset by the $493,000 decrease in rental income. The increase in AFFO was impacted on a per share basis by a $781,000 increase in diluted shares outstanding, resulting in AFFO per share of $0.34 compared with $0.31 in the prior year period. The current period AFFO includes non recurring state and property tax refunds of $138,000 Speaker 400:04:04or $0.01 per share Speaker 300:04:04and a decrease in G and A expenses of approximately $179,000 or $0.02 per share due to timing of expenses that will be reflected in the Q3. If our repurchase of 7 and 80,000 shares from First City Investment Group on August 1 that occurred at the beginning of the quarter, pro form a AFFO would have been $0.37 per fully diluted share. Cash interest expense for the quarter was approximately $25,000 greater than the comparable period of 2023 when we drew the final $80,000,000 of our term loan in mid April 2023. The current period expense included $550,000 of unrealized non cash net losses on swap valuations, which increased interest expense, while the prior year period included $3,700,000 of unrealized gains on swap valuations, which decreased interest expense. Now turning to our portfolio. Speaker 300:05:10Following the July 2020 4 acquisition of a Photonics manufacturing property located in the Tampa MSA, our 43 property portfolio has an attractive weighted average lease term of 13.6 years. Though the majority of our tenant credits are private, approximately 34% of our tenants or the parent companies have an investment grade rating from a formally recognized credit agency of BBB- or better. Annualized base rent for our 43 properties totals $40,500,000 on a pro form a basis as of June 30, 2024, with 39 industrial properties representing 76% of ABR and 4 non core properties representing 24% of ABR. With respect to our balance sheet and liquidity, as of June 30, 2024, total cash and cash equivalents were $18,900,000 and we had $280,000,000 of debt outstanding. Our Tampa property acquisition and a repurchase of 780,000 shares from First City reduced our cash position to $3,200,000 following quarter end. Speaker 300:06:24Our debt consists of $31,000,000 of mortgages on 2 consolidated properties and $250,000,000 of outstanding borrowings on our $400,000,000 credit facility, and we do not have any debt maturities until January 2027. Based on interest rate swap agreements we entered into during 2022, 100% of our indebtedness as of June 30, 2024 held a fixed interest rate with a weighted average interest rate of 4 point 5 2 percent based on our leverage ratio of 47 percent at quarter end. We are actively evaluating the changing interest rate environment and presently intend to enter into new swap agreements on or before December 31, 2024 to continue our full cash hedge position. As previously announced, our Board of Directors declared a cash dividend per common share of approximately $0.095 for the month of July, August September 2024, representing an annualized dividend rate of $1.15 per share of common stock. This represents a yield of 7.79 percent based on the $14.76 closing price of our common stock as of yesterday. Speaker 300:07:40I'll now turn the call back over to Aaron. Speaker 200:07:44Thanks, Ray. Okay, the fun part begins here where you guys get to ask your questions and I tend to talk too much. But before we do jump to Q and A, I want to address 2 things. Mr. Maher, I know my missives tend to be dramatic, but they're not meant to be, they're meant to be cryptic though. Speaker 200:08:04And the reason is that there are a lot of constituents out there and so there may be some messaging in those. They're so cryptic though that sometimes they could be confusing. So to that end, Mr. Stevenson, I want to point out that the portfolio in the JV is not focused on the city of Miami. Just to be clear, it is diversified in its geography. Speaker 200:08:29So with that, operator, let's go to Q and A. Operator00:08:51And our first question comes from the line of Gaurav Mehta with Alliance Global Partners. Please proceed. Speaker 500:08:57Yes, thank you. Good morning. I wanted to ask you on the JV, wondering if you were willing to disclose any more details on what's the size of the JV and do you expect to derive any management fee, property management fee once you get into the JV? Speaker 200:09:15So appreciate the question, figured you get it. You should generally assume that I will try to tell you everything I can. So I will not tell you statistics on that portfolio at this stage. And I have my reasons, so you got to trust me on that. As it relates to the JV fee though, we do not we're not doing this as sort of a fee generation thing. Speaker 200:09:39So this is a participation. So we will ratably be participating in the income and expenses and we're not looking to make any fees at all. Speaker 500:09:53Okay. Second question maybe big picture, any color on what you guys are seeing in the transaction market for industrial manufacturing? Speaker 200:10:02Yes. Just I mean, you're seeing one offs continue this whole year, it's been one offs, you'll get something comes up and sometimes the cap rates look attractive, but there's a reason they look attractive, but they're not really attractive. The credit is pretty thin or they're desperate for cash or something like that. Other times, on the more solid ones, they're not and they're not in a rush to sell, then the cap rates are too tight. So it hasn't been it's been a really not unlike our stock, it's been a really choppy market for industrial manufacturing. Speaker 200:10:35Remember, we're pretty picky. I don't look and deem sort of light assembly as manufacturing. I don't look at flex spaces as manufacturing. We're looking for things that are really durable in terms of their products, in terms of where they are in their market segment. So that narrows the universe. Speaker 200:10:55But it's been a pretty choppy. As you can expect, I mean, it's just been I mean, if you like for instance on the Tampa Bay deal we did, the reason why we were comfortable doing that one and obviously it had a good client list that were buying their products there and making something that was sort of very durable and needed for infrastructure based needs. But more importantly, the money from the sale leaseback went and we tied it to this, to make an acquisition overseas that did the same thing. So by doing this acquisition, they were more than doubling their top line and really getting synergies. So to us, that was a smart use of capital versus if it had been a PE shop who was just stripping out cash. Speaker 200:11:41And so there's so many different motivations into why we choose or why we think there's a good market or a bad market for assets. And right now, it's just been hit or miss. So we look, but there's not a lot of volume. It's not like you're buying Walgreens. Speaker 500:11:58Okay. Thank you. That's all I had. Speaker 200:12:01Thanks. Operator00:12:04The next question comes from the line of Rob Stevenson with Janney Montgomery Scott. Please proceed. Speaker 600:12:11Good morning. Aaron, can you talk about the expected timing on the non Miami centric Battleship deal? Is this likely a Q3 event if it happens? Speaker 200:12:22Yes. Okay. I think if it pulls together on the page we're working on, it will happen before the Q is my guide. Okay, Speaker 600:12:31perfect. And then can you talk about what is your role? Are you going to be in charge of managing these assets? Is it essentially a passive sort of ownership interest? Like how should we be thinking about these in your involvement? Speaker 200:12:48Yes, we'll plug them into our ecosystem. We'll manage them. The PE sponsor, we'll actually be stepping into the position of a prior joint venture partner that was that had or has a much smaller percentage than right now than what we are anticipating acquiring. So it will be a more equitable partner relationship, but we will do the management on a day to day basis, including property management, accounting, all those aspects. And the private equity sponsor will continue in what I would characterize as more of a passive role. Speaker 600:13:34Okay. And the materiality of the deal isn't such that given your current size that you'd need to get any type of approvals other than from the Board for the share issuance? Speaker 200:13:50That is correct. Speaker 600:13:51Okay. And then sort of switching gears here a bit, how should we be thinking about First City going forward? Or is this just a staggered sort of deal? Or they want to sell out of their remaining shares and units and going forward now do they own primarily shares or units at this point? Speaker 200:14:11Great questions. First City is a wonderful investor. We think highly of them and have had a dialogue with them for the last 2 years or 2 plus years. They're very smart investors. So even though on the surface this was smart for Motive, they have a history of making money in the space that they deal with, which tends to be in the automotive dealership space. Speaker 200:14:42So they now have only common shares. They are still a significant shareholder. So they have a meaningful size. They have had those shares that were not they were converted from OP units to shares back, I want to say in January. So they've had those at the possession. Speaker 200:15:05So those are freely tradable. They're allowed to do what they want. Obviously, I don't ask them about their business. So but they if they are going to stay longer term, I don't know. We hope they do. Speaker 200:15:22We think the world of them. And this was just a transaction that met the needs of both parties. So they have no more OP units though and this ended the OP units, which was the original cycle of the 7/21 transaction. Speaker 600:15:37Okay, that's helpful. And then how are you thinking about the most appropriate time to monetize the Kia asset? Is that a 'twenty four event at some point in time? Is that a wait for rates to come down and probably more likely a 'twenty five event? How should we be thinking about that in the current market environment? Speaker 400:15:58Yes, I think Speaker 200:16:01that is a great property with a great lease, with a great tenant. And in my view, in this rate environment, you would only get punished. You wouldn't get the credit that you're due. I think it's a natural candidate along with our Costco and OES as recycling because they are non core. We Costco is as we know, we just previously disclosed is underway. Speaker 200:16:35The other tenant OES has indicated that they are, as I mentioned before, interested in exercising their option purchase option. It's an arduous process for them as a government entity. So we don't know until we know. But those are probably the natural first candidates. And then at the right time, we would execute on Kia. Speaker 200:16:58And I think because there's a substantial embedded gain in that, we'd have to be very it'd have to be tied very much to a 1031 exchange. And so that could be new assets out there, another portfolio, it could be the second half of this aforementioned JV. I think there's a lot of opportunities to naturally sequence that. But I don't I have zero Speaker 600:17:29Costco, at this point given the way that KB is moving, what's the sense as the earliest that that deal closes for you guys? Speaker 200:17:41It's really up to their the zonings and the final permits. But I don't like I we're earmarking sort of mid next year. And right now, we don't see any reason why that would be earlier. There is provisions for it to be earlier. I don't think it would be earlier than February of next year. Speaker 200:18:01So it's definitely a 25% event. Speaker 600:18:04All right. And then the last one for me. You mentioned in your comments that Adam and Curtis are leaving the Board. So you're losing your Chairman and your Lead Director. How are you thinking and the Board thinking about that going forward? Speaker 600:18:17Will the Board shrink? Is there anyone on the Board currently going to step up and take on those roles? And how committed are you in the company keeping the CEO and Chairman roles separate at this point? Speaker 200:18:31CEO and Chairman role will be separate. That's best practice. There's nothing there. We will, by the time we file a proxy, have all those items addressed in a thorough manner. And so we've we have put thought towards it. Speaker 200:18:47And I'd say we're not ready for to get our proxy out yet. That'll be soon. We wanted to get this JV due diligence underway. And so by the time we do that, it will be fully vetted and out with it. But we'll maintain the same sort of professional integrity that we've always done with our Board. Speaker 200:19:10And it's disappointing to have rotation, but it's been 5 years, it's been a long time and they've got other things to do. So we're I'm very grateful for their service and when whoever comes on next will look they'll have a high bar to measure to. Speaker 600:19:30All right. Thanks. Appreciate the time this morning. Operator00:19:35And the next And the next question comes from the line of Bryan Maher with B. Riley Securities. Please proceed. Speaker 700:19:41Hi. This is Brandon on for Bryan, but I will certainly pass along the message. Most of our questions have been answered, but two quick ones from us. So first one was just the probability on kind of the current strategic partnership going forward versus kind of the probability of the other strategic partnership option, if you can delve into that? Speaker 200:20:09Yes. So I think there's some logic to sequencing them. And this one is one that we could fast track a little bit better. During the course of the summer, we've had I mean, our share price was at $15.75 it was at $13.95 We had so much market and rate volatility that it makes it hard to negotiate if you're trying to engineer a certain outcome. And so patience is key and that's kind of what I talked about. Speaker 200:20:45This one though is of the 2 and they're both great opportunities and they're both very strategic, but they're different in terms of the composition. And so this one is one that we can execute faster. And I think it also only dovetails. And so I think if anything doing this one first helps strengthen the opportunity for the second one. And so that's how I would describe it. Speaker 200:21:15I don't it wasn't an either or decision. And in my ideal world, it will be the combination of 3 battleships. Speaker 700:21:24Got it. And you talked about your acquisitions, but I was just curious on the disposition pipeline, whether you're receiving offers on existing properties or underperforming properties, any color there? And That's all for Speaker 200:21:41me. Thanks, Brandon. There are no properties held for sale right now. We've clearly signaled that non core assets, particularly the office assets are natural recycling candidate. We have some industrial assets that are less manufacturing and more distribution that could be candidates down the road. Speaker 200:22:04But right now nothing is for sale. We did a big transaction last year with the 13 property portfolio we obviously sold to earlier this year. So I think we're always able to sell and if we find the right opportunity, we will execute. That said, if you've got a good property with good operations or that and you don't want to necessarily sell into this market because you're just going to get cut off at the knees unless you have to. And so we don't feel any urgency to have to do anything and so we'll continue to be smart. Speaker 200:22:43Thanks. Operator00:22:49And the next question comes from the line of Sean Hoster with Net Lease Observer. Please proceed. Speaker 400:22:55Hey, Aaron. Good morning. Curious if there's any specific watch list changes for you guys from a tenant credit exposure perspective? And then secondarily, I'm Speaker 200:23:08hearing a Speaker 400:23:09lot of talk in the market about pricing between investment grade and non investment grade assets. Just would love to hear how you and your team think about pricing assets depending on credit profile? Speaker 200:23:21Sure. I think the credit profile IG, non IG frame of mind is highly conducive to sort of traditional net lease. And what I've seen by traditional net lease is I think of NNN or O or Agri or NetSuite, they're buying a lot of retail and there is a wide spectrum of credit quality and that way of thinking about it is built into a lot of other net lease product types. And I think for good reason, right, because these are not unlike bonds and so the credit matters. I think when it pertains to industrial manufacturing, it's hard to fit that square peg into a round hole. Speaker 200:24:10And what I mean by that is you have a lot of private middle market credits typically. We're not buying Intel manufacturing fabs that would be like 4 times our market cap just to buy one of those. And so we're buying really durable infrastructure based manufacturers that have typically been around for a long time. They can either be individually owned, some of them are public. I think our look through basis on rated credits that are investment grade is 34% of the portfolio. Speaker 200:24:41I think O's is like 37%, but it's completely apples and oranges, right? There's no real comparison. So for us, if we can find someone that's investment grade and it makes sense and that's the actual guarantor on the lease, that's fantastic. Will we buy a crappy manufacturing location just because it's investment grade? No. Speaker 200:25:03Well, we got to make sure that it's a durable tenant in terms of it's been around for a long time, what they're making is essential, that they have a good market share of what they do make. Hopefully, all or at least the majority of their manufacturing is in our facility. So it makes it very, very low likelihood of rejection, right, because rejection in our case is a real dire outcome. It's not like a linens thing where I can just go re box it. And so we think about it differently. Speaker 200:25:32It's certainly important. We run internal and external credit every time we do a deal. But the IG thing doesn't always necessarily fit. As terms of pricing, what I alluded to go off, we're not seeing a ton out there. The pricing is either wide and because they're desperate and they're trying to bait someone into taking it. Speaker 200:25:53So they'll say, hey, it's an 8% cap or 8.5% cap, but it's really probably a 10% cap, if you look at the true risk or it's a really good portfolio and they know it and say market is prevailing market, it might be 7.5% and they want 6 point 5 and you're like, well, that was 2 years ago. And so it's kind of choppy. There's not a whole lot. Ours is really a case by case thing. There's not a lot of observations to be to draw a trend line from. Speaker 200:26:17So sorry, I can't answer that better. Speaker 400:26:21Great. That's helpful color. AppreciateRead moreRemove AdsPowered by