SunOpta Q2 2024 Earnings Call Transcript

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August 7, 2024

There are 11 speakers on the call.

Operator

Greetings, and welcome to SunOpta's Second Quarter 2024 Earnings Conference Call. At this time, all participants are in a listen only mode. A question and answer session will follow the prepared remarks. As a reminder, this conference is being recorded. I would now like to turn the conference over to your host, Reed Anderson with ICR.

Operator

Thank you. You may begin.

Speaker 1

Good afternoon and thank you for joining us on SunOpta's Q2 fiscal 2024 earnings conference call. On the call today are Brian Kooker, Chief Executive Officer and Greg Gava, Chief Financial Officer. By now, everyone should have access to the earnings press release that was issued earlier this afternoon and is available on the Investor Relations page of SunOpta's website at www.sunopta.com. This call is being webcast and its transcription will also be available on the company's website. As a reminder, please note that the prepared remarks, which will follow, contain forward looking statements and management may make additional forward looking statements in response to your questions.

Speaker 1

These statements do not guarantee future performance and therefore undue reliance should not be placed upon them. We refer you to all risk factors contained in SunOpta's press release issued this afternoon, the company's annual report filed on Form 10 ks and other filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission for a more detailed discussion of the factors that could cause actual results to differ materially from those projections and any forward looking statements. The company undertakes no obligation to publicly correct or update the forward looking statements made during the presentation to reflect future events or circumstances, except as may be required under applicable securities laws. Finally, we would like to remind listeners that the company may refer to certain non GAAP financial measures during this teleconference. A reconciliation of these non GAAP financial measures was included with the company's press release issued earlier today.

Speaker 1

Also, please note in the prepared remarks to follow, unless otherwise stated, the company will be referring to the continued operations portion of the business and all figures are in U. S. Dollars occasionally rounded to the nearest $1,000,000 Now, I'll turn the call over to Brian to begin. Brian?

Speaker 2

Good afternoon and thank you for joining us today. For today's call, I'll start with the highlights of our latest quarter's performance along with an update on business trends and key priorities. Greg will follow with a review of the financials and our outlook. Then we'll take your questions. Our Q2 headline is very simple.

Speaker 2

Both volume driven revenue growth of 21% and adjusted EBITDA of $20,600,000 exceeded our guidance and I'd like to share context on that performance specifically focusing on our revenue and operational initiatives. With respect to our revenue performance, on our last call, we guided to revenue growth that we could see. We worked on initiatives beyond our known wins and then we over delivered with 21% volume driven revenue growth. For the Q4 in a row, our volume growth was spread broadly across customers, panels and major product categories. We are executing well across our product portfolio and continue to see significant opportunities for further growth and improvement.

Speaker 2

Remember last quarter I mentioned, we have visibility into our customers' initiatives and pipeline, which gave us confidence in our demand generation engine and confidence to increase our 2024 outlook. Let me provide a few data points to give you some perspective on the depth of our growth. We again drove double digit revenue growth from each of our top three customers. Our top five customers posted 23% average year over year revenue growth. Our fruit snacks business grew by over 24% and continued a streak of 16 consecutive quarters with at least double digit growth.

Speaker 2

Our Foodservice segment revenue again increased at a double digit rate and every major go to market channel and product category grew during the quarter. We continue to see plant based beverages increasingly featured across new menu items and on menu boards in Foodservice. Volume continues to be the primary driver of growth. Unit volume growth is the most significant confirmation of our continued and differentiated value proposition in the commercial market. When customers want more of our support products and innovation and want them at a faster rate than the overall market is growing, we know we have a sustainable competitive advantage.

Speaker 2

Our volume growth is coming from several areas. We are winning with winning customers as a solution provider and an innovation partner. Specifically, the brands we support are winning and outperforming the categories where they play. Over the last 13 week measurement period, the majority of the brands we support have exceeded category volume performance by over 700 basis points. Secondly, we're gaining incremental business from new and existing customers as they seek to leverage our service capabilities, our capacity and our innovation talent to launch new products as well as support growth in their established offering.

Speaker 2

And thirdly, we are also benefiting from our TAM expansion into protein shakes and other plant based beverage innovations in foodservice. The addressable markets in which we participate are also large and growing. For 2024, we estimate the U. S. Shelf stable plant based milks market continues to grow in the mid single digits in the aggregate across all channels tracked and untracked.

Speaker 2

Remember that much of our volume is derived from untracked segments and we continue to see growth in foodservice and club channels. Protein shakes continues to be one of the fastest growing categories in CPG with track channel volume up approximately 18% over the past 13 weeks and over 60% of the performance nutrition category is comprised of the 330 ML format like we produce in Midlothian, Texas. In Fruit Snacks, consumer and customer demand remain very strong. The better for you segment is the fastest growing subset within the fruit snacks category, up over 30% over the past 52 weeks, with our customers commanding well over 75 percent of the segment share. As you can see, we have significant tailwinds supporting our revenue line.

Speaker 2

Let me transition to our operational performance. In addition to the revenue growth we guided in 2Q, we also committed to improving the effectiveness of our supply chain, which as you know has been a major area of focus for me and the organization over the past 2 quarters. As you've heard me describe many times, this is a journey of a 1000 steps. We are making progress every day and we always strive to be better. I am both pleased with our progress during the quarter and also energized by our prospects for substantial improvement in the future.

Speaker 2

From an output perspective, during the Q2, we increased unit output in our aseptic facilities by over 24% versus the prior year and output in our fruit snacks facilities increased by more than 33%. Importantly, these increases were driven by both greater efficiency from our increased unit output of those assets by greater than 10% versus the year ago quarter, which is the equivalent of adding roughly an entire manufacturing line to the network. Our team is making significant progress on creating capacity via operating improvements. Our oat extraction expansion in Modesto came online during the quarter as many of you know and we are both aggressively ramping volume as well as selling future capacity. In Midlothian, we are progressing various efficiencies throughout the plant.

Speaker 2

Our 3rd line started producing commercially sellable product at the end of Q1 2024, is ramping as anticipated and is expected to make a solid contribution to our second half 'twenty four results. Output in Midlothian is increasing and we see opportunities to drive further improvement with targeted investments now to accelerate sustainable growth and margin achievement later this year and into 2025. As I look at the progress we've made in our supply chain throughout the quarter, the increase in output was satisfying, but ultimately uncovered and highlighted further areas for improvement in investment. As we continue identifying opportunities for operational efficiency, we are taking advantage of exceptional revenue growth to accelerate short term investments, which in turn will accelerate sustainable process improvements. Our supply chain initiatives are detailed by plant, by product line and by hour of the day.

Speaker 2

Each of these projects are making progress and the pace of the progress varies by project and location. In some lines and or functions, we may need to take a step back to take 2 steps forward. In 2Q, we had the benefit of incremental growth. So we purposely invested to either shore up project plans or accelerate sustainable results. The quantum and magnitude of improvement plans we have in place across our network helped to fuel our 27% volume growth in Q2.

Speaker 2

Rarely are increases in output not simultaneously accompanied by some growing pain. In the quarter, we discovered areas for short term investment, which will continue into the Q3. However, we see significant opportunity for sustainable margin improvement commencing in Q4 and carrying us through 2025. Once again, I'm proud of our quarterly results and I continue to be excited about our long term revenue and profit growth outlook. Our expectations for the future continue to be based on what we see, not on what we hope, and we are confident in raising our 2020 4 revenue outlook for the 2nd time this year.

Speaker 2

Our priorities, actions and initiatives to deliver against these expectations remain the same. First, grow volume through expanding our current customer relationships, acquiring new customers and expanding our TAM. Our co development and innovation network on behalf of our customers provides great excitement about the demand side of our business. Most importantly, it builds our capacity with products and categories that significantly over index towards growth. Secondly, we want to drive operational improvements to both increase output and expand sustainable margins.

Speaker 2

We have multiple efficiency projects at each facility and are gaining momentum every day. We increased output by 27% in the Q2 and our newest capacity is still ramping up in the second half. With the support of our short term investments, we expect to see sustainable margin expansion starting in the Q4 through better fixed cost absorption as well as variable cost reduction. Lastly, we will maintain our disciplined financial approach and continue deleveraging to under 3 times EBITDA, our stated goal by the end of this year. Every aspect of our business is closely linked and through our disciplined relentless focus on operational execution, we continue delivering strong results.

Speaker 2

We are a growth company operating in growing categories with growing customers. As a private label and co manufacturing solutions provider, we solve problems and create wins for our customers. As we create wins and solve problems for our customers, we grow share and revenue. We also grow share and revenue by improving operational efficiency. As we increase output through efficiency gains, we extend the capacity of our deployed investments in deferred growth CapEx, which leads to higher returns on invested capital and drives incremental value for shareholders.

Speaker 2

In summary, we delivered strong results in the first half and believe we are well positioned for the balance of 2024 and beyond. We are delivering top line growth rates that are several times faster than peer averages and propelled by robust volume gain. We're demonstrating the necessary operational resilience of business needs to service growth while simultaneously overcoming challenges and improving our operational efficiency. As a result, we are poised for higher sustainable margins and improving profitability as our supply chain initiatives gain traction and accelerate, all of which helps to drive free cash flow. I'm confident in the direction of our business and increased revenue outlook for 2024 along with our significant potential for driving growth, cash flow and shareholder value over the longer term.

Speaker 2

Now I'll turn the call over to Greg to cover the Q2 and full year outlook in more detail.

Speaker 3

Thank you, Brian, and good afternoon, everyone. We had another strong quarter. Revenue of 171,000,000 dollars was up 21% compared to last year, driven by exceptional volume growth. As Brian highlighted, this growth was across the board. Gross profit increased $3,200,000 or 17 percent to $21,800,000 in the quarter and reported gross margin was 12.8%.

Speaker 3

Adjusted gross margin was 16.2% and reflects increased volume and better plant utilization offset by short term discretionary investments in future sustainable supply chain efficiencies, some manufacturing inefficiencies and incremental depreciation for newly launched production assets. Operating income more than doubled to $2,600,000 in the 2nd quarter as profitable volume growth was partially offset by higher variable and incentive compensation. Loss from continuing operations was $3,800,000 compared to a loss of $11,700,000 in the prior year period. This improvement was driven by incremental operating income in addition to reduced income tax expense. Adjusted EBITDA from continuing operations increased 12% to $20,600,000 compared to $18,400,000 last year.

Speaker 3

Turning to the balance sheet. At the end of the second quarter, debt was 303,000,000 dollars Remember, an increase in debt was expected in the quarter due to our oat extraction capacity expansion in Modesto coming online. Net leverage was 3.5 times and we fully expect to achieve our target of being under 3 times levered by the end of the year. Year to date, cash provided by operating activities of continuing operations was $2,000,000 and year to date, cash used in investing activities of continuing operations was $13,900,000 Now turning to our full year outlook. We are raising our 2024 revenue outlook for the 2nd time this year to reflect the strong performance in Q2 and higher growth expectations in the second half.

Speaker 3

We now expect revenue in the range of $710,000,000 to $730,000,000 which represents growth of 13% to 16%. From a profit perspective, with the short term investments we are making in the supply chain and the natural challenges that result when you are growing a business 3x the category run rate, we are maintaining our outlook for adjusted EBITDA of $88,000,000 to $92,000,000 which represents growth of 12% to 17%. From a second half pacing standpoint, we expect the 3rd quarter to look similar to the 2nd quarter with slight improvement and both revenue and adjusted EBITDA increasing in the 4th quarter. As Brian discussed, we are delivering exceptional top line growth rates and are accelerating our investments in supply chain initiatives that are expected to deliver higher sustainable margins and improved profitability in the Q4, provide great momentum entering 2025 and deliver significant shareholder value over the longer term. Before opening the call for questions, just a reminder that for competitive reasons, we do not provide detailed commentary regarding customer or SKU level activity.

Speaker 3

And with that, operator, please open the call for questions.

Operator

Thank you. We will now begin the question and answer session. Your first question comes from the line of John Anderson with William Blair. Please go ahead.

Speaker 4

Hey, good afternoon, everybody. Thanks for the question.

Speaker 2

Hi, John. How are you?

Speaker 4

I'm good. Thank you. Hope you are too. So the sales were, as you pointed out, very strong in the quarter and volume driven. I'm wondering if you could talk a little bit more about the upside.

Speaker 4

Presumably, the sales exceeded your expectations. They clearly exceeded the Street's expectations in the quarter. But I'd like to get a little better sense for was that more in the existing customer base? Was it new additions ramping more quickly? Or was it kind of the TAM part of the growth story that drove that?

Speaker 2

John, thanks a lot for the question. I really appreciate it. I think we were really excited this quarter by the fact that it was a little bit of everything. If we had some new product launches that came out and did well in the Q2 on behalf of our customers, Certainly, we saw growth in of our TAM expansion initiatives with either protein shakes and some of our plant based beverage initiatives. We also continue to see a category that overall and when you include untracked channels is growing.

Speaker 2

And I think one of the more important things is the brands that we support are winning. As a co manufacturer and a private label provider, solutions provider, we work with brands and they are every day out there trying to grow their own brand. If you look at the brands we support, they are all performing better than the category at a whole. And so as you think about all the areas we can grow, it was really across all of the areas that we provided strength and we're very happy with the volume growth in particular. That's always a great sign.

Speaker 4

Absolutely. So you have a large customer, I mean, many customers, but there is a large customer and there's been some noise about around broadly traffic trends in foodservice establishments. I mean, what can you tell us about your business that makes it different? Because it sounds like that hasn't put any material pressure on your business to date and you don't expect it to on a full year basis obviously as you lift your overall revenue outlook for the year?

Speaker 5

Well, I think there's

Speaker 2

a couple of things to remember with respect to our customer base. We have diversity of channels. So we've got foodservice channel, we have club channel, we have retail support in both private label and co manufacturing. So there's a lot of diversity there. Again, I think if you think about the growth, it was broad based.

Speaker 2

Our top three customers grew double digits. Our food service customers in aggregate grew double digits, our top five customers grew 23%. Now that comes with some where the category is growing, some where TAM expansion is happening, some where innovation and development is happening. I think we talked a little bit about this last quarter. The opportunity that we have to work with our customers on either innovation or co development really gives us a unique position to potentially participate in limited time offers, in menu items and things of that nature.

Speaker 2

And those often grow at an index that is different than the overall revenue stream of some of the channels or some of the categories. And that's probably the best way to describe it.

Speaker 4

Makes sense. I'm going to squeeze the third one in if I can. I know I'll get a lot of questions. So volumes were extremely strong. You're ramping production in Midlothian.

Speaker 4

The fruit snacks business is on fire and volumes are strong there. And yet, we saw kind of margin some margin gross margin degradation year over year. Could you just explain a little bit more, talk a little bit more about some of these short term investments that you're making, maybe some of the inefficiencies that you surfaced And how to get us confident that that inflection that you're kind of pointing to in the Q4 is your visibility is really good in terms of delivering on that? Thanks.

Speaker 2

No problem, John. Look, love the question. Couple of things to think about. Let's talk about it in terms of gross margin and the outlook for gross margin. First of all, there is all good news in this story.

Speaker 2

Our gross margin story starts with volume. We posted a quarter with big volume growth and when that big volume growth came in, our network supplied it. I mean that's one very positive thing that happened in here. We took share and you take share when it's available not when it's convenient. So the first bit of good news that's in that margin story I would tell you is that we had to produce the volume to deliver the volume growth and we did it.

Speaker 2

In fact, one on some of our existing assets, let's exclude Midlothian and some of the newer capacity we've put in place. In our existing assets, we increased output enough to be the equivalent of a full manufacturing line, essentially out of sweat equity and ingenuity, a

Operator

full manufacturing line.

Speaker 6

So we were

Speaker 3

really excited

Speaker 6

about that.

Speaker 2

The second bit of and and expectedly test your supply chain. And when you grow as fast as we're growing and you take some share when it's available as opposed to convenient, you certainly identify opportunities in your supply chain where you could be more efficient. The good news is we're identifying that now as opposed to 2 quarters from now or 3 quarters from now. So we're investing in areas to just give you some specificity. We're investing in areas around downline efficiencies.

Speaker 2

Why is that important? Because if we can pack out more, we can run systems more fluidly and continuously. We're investing in equipment maintenance uptime. We're investing in these short term areas

Speaker 7

in labor

Speaker 2

and labor management. We're investing in our procurement and inventory management processes to see all the to make this flow together from beginning to end of the supply chain. Again, I think the good news for us is we've got the volume and we've got the output. Remember, we can never make efficient the volume that we don't take. So we took the volume, we've got opportunities to make it in investments.

Speaker 2

Think of these investments as temporary investments in labor, potentially some at surge resources to help us on efficiency initiatives, maybe a small investment here or there in terms of shop floor metric systems and reporting and escalation systems. So we're really confident, A, that we can produce the volume, B, as we produce the volume, we can get better at it. And just a few data points, if I look at overall cost per unit produced and overall labor unit produced, those were better than the Q2 of 'twenty three. Now we had some other areas that suffered some challenges, but I'm excited about what we're doing in the supply chain and our opportunities to grow. Thanks a lot.

Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Jim Salera with Stephens. Please go ahead.

Speaker 7

Yes. Good afternoon. Thanks for taking our questions. Brian, I really wanted to drill down on the kind of sustainability of what seems to be pretty meaningful gains in kind of sharing on your customers, because and I can appreciate the untracked channels and the foodservice channels represent a much larger piece of the business, especially for your customers than maybe some other categories. But your outperformance relative to what is visible in the tracked channels continues to be very stark.

Speaker 7

And so should we expect to see some of the strength in these untracked channels eventually filter into tracked channels? Or is it just that the way that the end market is structured, investors really shouldn't worry about tracked channels and it's really all about kind of the growth that's unseen, so to speak?

Speaker 2

Okay. A couple of themes in there, Jim, and let me try to break those apart. First of all, I think it's important to remember from our perspective, tracked channels is less than a 5th of the market that we serve. So of course we pay attention to it, but when you look at foodservice, when you look at club, that's the opportunity and on other untracked channels, that's the opportunity that we really address and certainly is more meaningful to us. So that is one thing.

Speaker 2

On the track channel side, we actually are starting to see a little bit of turn or let's call it a deceleration of the softness in shelf stable. So we're starting to see some of that. But I will get back to our, let's call it philosophy on guidance and expectation setting. We communicate what we see. We understand and work with our customers every week, every month on their innovation efforts.

Speaker 2

I think innovation is also an area that the investment community can't see in track channels because it happens in food service and in clubs. So there's another area which it might be a very positive divergence from the track channel data that's publicly available. All of those things go in and factor into the performance. So I would never say it's inconsequential, but our world is absolutely more heavily weighted to solving opportunities and challenges for our customer and growing share that way. Okay.

Speaker 2

Both volumes.

Speaker 7

And then yes, yes, that's helpful. On the foodservice side in particular, I guess, I'm obviously positively surprised by the strength you guys continue to see there, given the overall kind of consumer softness that we see in food service. And so I wonder if you could just give us some color on what's driving your sub segment in food service that it sees such a higher degree of success relative to kind of the broader slowdown, let's say, that we see in foodservice?

Speaker 2

Yes, 2 things that I would say really contribute to that. Remember, we're wired in tight with our customers, our top 15 customers. We're in their supply planning meetings, we're talking to their innovation team and that's happening on a weekly and a monthly basis. So there's 2 things that I would say think about that. 1, just as I mentioned with track channels, the brands that we support are outperforming the overall category.

Speaker 2

Think of the menu items that you see in foodservice and where plant based or the products that we support are either over indexed or ingredients in promotional items, limited time offers, real volume growth or focus points for our customers, you can see that. And so it can be true that our products grow at potentially a faster pace than the rest of the product portfolio or over index versus the rest of the product portfolio of some of our foodservice customers. That can be true. The other thing is remember we innovate. So we have several new product launches that we co developed and launched with our customers and that is also showing up in the foodservice channel.

Operator

Comes from the line of Brian Holland with D. A. Davidson. Please go ahead.

Speaker 5

Yes, thanks. Good afternoon. So I just wanted to ask about some of the supply chain investments. And maybe in the context of kind of rolling this forward, if I've got it right, I know there's a lot of moving parts with the divestitures and portfolio reshaping, but last I have it, it's kind of like a 20% gross margin target. You can correct me kind of long term.

Speaker 5

You can correct me if I'm wrong there. But I guess what I maybe another way of asking this supply chain question would be, is what you're discovering that it's more expensive to get to that 20% gross margin or with the volume that's coming through your network, are these investments maybe intended to ultimately drive upside to that target? If it would be possible to address it in that way, that would be great to hear.

Speaker 2

Yes, Brian, absolutely would not characterize them as simply costing more. Think of it this way, we're growing faster than we had outlined previously. I mean, heck, this is the 2nd quarter in a row that we're raising guidance. So we're growing faster. When you grow faster, you also test your supply chain a little bit and we're identifying some of these areas that we would have identified in the next quarter or the following quarter or 3 quarters from now.

Speaker 2

We're identifying them sooner. So we're addressing them sooner, which has the opportunity we believe to kind of accelerate our margin enhancement. We make some short term investments and then we drive to that 20% long term target for mid term target for margin. I think Greg and I have both been very public in saying the 20% margin was derived from the last time our network was full. If we look at our the next time our network will be full and or close to full and thinking about that margin, that 20% is achievable.

Speaker 2

However, with some of the investments we make, I think we would be we really want to hold ourselves and push ourselves get something north of 20%. But that would be upside, I think, right now.

Speaker 5

Understood. That's great color. And then the other question, if we think in Midlothian about the opportunity for expansion, I think like lines 4 out to potentially 8 as it was outlined 18 or so months ago. I suspect we're getting closer if we're not already at the point where we need to decide what those lines are going to be allocated for or dedicated to. So curious if you can provide any assessment there because certainly we talked a lot about the plant based beverage and shelf stable category, but obviously as well now you have the 330 milliliter capability and you obviously have discussed what we're seeing on the protein shake category.

Speaker 5

So just maybe a sense of how that capacity or that infrastructure gets filled out at a category level as we look out over the next, I don't know, 12, 24 months?

Speaker 3

Yes, sure, Brian. Great question. So as you recall, we just had our 3rd line at Midlothian come online in Q2, right? So there is quite a bit of run rate at Midlothian for future growth. We've said before and we still believe by the end of 2025, early 2026 and when we see our network to be full.

Speaker 3

But our first priority continues to be to deleverage, right. So our goal is to be under 3 times levered. We fully expect to be there by the end of this year and that will be our focus here in the short term.

Speaker 5

Okay, fair enough.

Operator

Your next question.

Speaker 2

Hey, Brian, just one other item. I don't want to gloss over the fact that by increasing output, you create non CapEx capacity. Effectively, we created out of thin air the equivalent of an additional manufacturing line. Now that was spread out through our network, but you get the feeling, you understand the analogy. There is tremendous opportunity for us to continue improving efficiency and output and creating non CapEx capital.

Speaker 2

And that's where our focus is on the short term.

Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Andrew Strelzik with BMO Capital Markets. Please go ahead.

Speaker 8

Hey, good afternoon. Thanks for taking the questions. My first one, I want to, I guess, revisit the answer to a prior question. I'm trying to think about the implications of faster revenue growth and you're talking about accelerating the margin improvements and what that means for the EBITDA you've pointed to kind of run rate exiting '25 into 'twenty six. Is the timeline should we think about the timeline around that changing at all given those dynamics or is the net with the investments that the timeline stays the same?

Speaker 8

I guess it feels like it's pulling forward, but I guess I was just a little unclear based on the answer.

Speaker 2

Yes. Andrew, I'll be blatant and bluntly clear with you. We're really focused on communicating

Speaker 6

what we can see and not what we

Speaker 3

hope right now. We've

Speaker 2

can see the short term investments that we need to make and want to make in the supply chain. We can see the opportunity for margin expansion. We're excited about our demand generation engine and we have more confidence. I think the best way to say it is we have more confidence in that mid term guidance now than we did this time last quarter, which was more confident than the quarter before. So each time we have revenue acceleration or potentially capacity creation, I would look at that as giving us more confidence in that mid term target than worrying about changing a timing or magnitude.

Speaker 8

Okay. Okay. That makes sense. And then my other question, obviously, there's a lot of concern about the consumer environment. We've seen slowdowns across food and beverage categories in a number of places, none of which you're really seeing for a variety of reasons.

Speaker 8

But I guess I'm just curious about the tone of your customer conversations broadly. Are you sensing any change in the way that they're approaching their businesses? Are they getting more aggressive or less aggressive in this environment? Just kind of curious under the hood how those conversations are progressing. Thanks.

Speaker 2

No problem, Andrew. But let's break down the categories in which we play. Shelf stable, plant based beverages, we believe is growing in the mid single digits across tracked and untracked, right. So those are our customers that we're talking with that we understand that we see have visibility to. We believe that that category is growing in the mid single digits.

Speaker 2

Ready to drink protein shakes, growing. Fruit snacks, growing. Heck, even our less mainstream products, broth and tea growing. So the categories in which we service and in particular the ones in which we're helping our customers win, those are all growing. And I think that's one thing to keep in mind as we think about how you look at the consumer in the category.

Speaker 2

Now we are also helping customers grow with innovation. Not always is that innovation a new flavor or product or unit size. It could be a new pack size. It could be a more efficient configuration. It could be a better transportation methodology or mode.

Speaker 2

So those are things that all go into solutions providing and innovating for our customers when you're a solutions provider. So, I think it's a little narrow at least as you look at our revenue stream to just say, hey, there's some pressure on the consumer, therefore the categories aren't growing. Every category we play in is growing. And I would remember that as you think about our prospects for growth.

Speaker 6

Great. Thank you very much.

Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Ryan Mayers with Lake Street Capital Markets. Please go ahead.

Speaker 9

Hey, guys. Just one question for me. Just curious how we should think about the potential for adding any new business into the pipeline. I mean, I know talked about you're only communicating what you guys have visibility to. But as we think about potential areas for upside or additional opportunities that could come in, maybe how should we be thinking about that for this year and then maybe the potential for next year as well?

Speaker 2

Ryan, I hate to give you an incredibly boring answer, but I'm going to continue to tell you. Look, we communicate what we see, not what we hope for. Don't let that be confused with we don't work on anything else. If you don't grow a business 21% this quarter, 18% the quarter before, 14% the quarter before without focusing on a lot of different initiatives and opportunities. So we're going to continue working on a wide range of initiatives from growing share with customers to acquiring new customers to innovating with our portfolio to TAM expansion.

Speaker 2

We'll continue all of those, but we'll also continue communicating what we see, not what we hope.

Speaker 9

Got it. Thanks, Ken. Thanks for taking my questions.

Speaker 2

Hey, thank you.

Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Alex Fuhrman with Craig Hallum Capital Group. Please go ahead.

Speaker 1

Hey guys, thanks for taking

Speaker 10

my question and congratulations on another really strong quarter. Brian, I was hoping you could unpack something a little bit more that you talked about in your prepared remarks. It sounds like you said something to the effect of your customers growing faster than their categories by a pretty significant margin. What's been driving that? Is that just plant based taking share from dairy or your customers having more consistent access to supply and fewer stock outs?

Speaker 10

We'd love to just get a sense of what that common theme has been there.

Speaker 2

Yes, I think it's more traditional category management tools. Certainly availability and consistency of supply is a piece of it. Innovation is a piece of it. Line extensions and brand extensions, distribution gains and remember our customers are also taking share. The category is never equal for all participants.

Speaker 2

You have some winners and you have others that are not winning. And I think that's a component where we're helping our customers be successful. And again, I can't reiterate this enough. We are a solutions provider for our customer. They also have a team that is out there every day working to grow their brand.

Speaker 2

We support them, but we also benefit as they grow their brand.

Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Daniel Byulski with Hedgeye Risk Management. Please go ahead.

Speaker 6

Brian and Greg, it's really nice to see revenue expectations going higher. Your growth sounds very diversified by customer and channel. I was hoping you could share a little how it looks by type of plant based milk. Are there any changes there in the market? Or is it still sort of the same secular trends going?

Speaker 2

I would say they're the same secular trends that we've seen. Again, an advantage with SunOpta and our model is that we participate across the spectrum. And there's usage occasions differ across the spectrum of plant based beverages. So I'm excited to the fact that when you work with us as a solutions provider, you've got the full spectrum of plant based beverages to deploy at your disposal. And so I have to follow-up with

Speaker 6

the results you put today. When you hit 3 times leverage, how are you going to compare new CapEx investments with the share price being where it is?

Speaker 2

Well, let's stay really focused. Right now, Daniel, we're worried about executing, growing with our customers, solving their problems and deleveraging and getting that 3x lever. When we do, I think there's a ton of evaluations to do. 1st and foremost, returning capital to shareholders. That's absolutely one that is first on our list.

Speaker 2

And then there's a whole host of other relative investments. But I don't want to put the cart before the horse. Let's focus on delivering the Q3, then the Q4 deleverage and then we've got a lot of opportunities after that.

Speaker 6

Sounds good.

Operator

And that concludes our question and answer session. I will now turn the conference over to Brian Kooker for closing remarks.

Speaker 2

Thanks to everyone for joining us today and we really appreciate the opportunity to explain our model and our results. If you take away only three things for this call, please remember these three things. At SunOpta, we are winning with winning customers across every significant channel and category in which we play. The best sign of a sustainable value proposition in the market is volume growth and we are growing volume with our largest customers across all channels and across all major product segments. So that's one thing.

Speaker 2

Secondly, our supply chain is up to the challenge of accelerated growth. We have increased output by over 25% year to date through a combination of new capacity but also stretching our existing assets. I'm proud of the progress we made in the first half and specifically during the second quarter. I'm proud but not satisfied. Our tremendous growth has identified and highlighted some areas where we can further invest in the short term and we will and we'll invest to drive operating efficiencies, investing now with the goal of accelerating margin enhancement in

Speaker 6

4Q and beyond.

Speaker 2

And then lastly, we are development opportunities customers that we have on the horizon, about our opportunities to grow share with existing customers and potentially acquire new customers, we're extremely excited about that. As a result of that confidence, we are again raising our revenue guidance. Remember, we guide to what we see, not what we hope and then we relentlessly work every opportunity we can find to deliver. Thank you again for participating today. We look forward to updating you during at the next quarter.

Speaker 2

And again, thanks so much for your support.

Operator

This concludes today's conference call. Thank you for your participation and you may now disconnect.

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