NYSE:G Genpact Q2 2024 Earnings Report $1.82 +0.17 (+10.30%) As of 03:58 PM Eastern Earnings HistoryForecast Nouveau Monde Graphite EPS ResultsActual EPS$0.69Consensus EPS $0.64Beat/MissBeat by +$0.05One Year Ago EPSN/ANouveau Monde Graphite Revenue ResultsActual Revenue$1.18 billionExpected Revenue$1.15 billionBeat/MissBeat by +$30.20 millionYoY Revenue GrowthN/ANouveau Monde Graphite Announcement DetailsQuarterQ2 2024Date8/8/2024TimeN/AConference Call DateThursday, August 8, 2024Conference Call Time5:00PM ETUpcoming EarningsGenpact's Q1 2025 earnings is scheduled for Wednesday, May 7, 2025, with a conference call scheduled at 5:00 PM ET. Check back for transcripts, audio, and key financial metrics as they become available.Q1 2025 Earnings ReportConference Call ResourcesConference Call AudioConference Call TranscriptPress Release (8-K)Quarterly Report (10-Q)Earnings HistoryCompany ProfilePowered by Genpact Q2 2024 Earnings Call TranscriptProvided by QuartrAugust 8, 2024 ShareLink copied to clipboard.There are 12 speakers on the call. Operator00:00:00Good day, ladies and gentlemen. Welcome to the 2024 Second Quarter Genpact Limited Earnings Conference Call. My name is Michelle, and I will be your conference moderator for today. At this time, all participants are in a listen only mode. We will conduct a question and answer session towards the end of this conference call. Operator00:00:21As a reminder, this call is being recorded for replay purposes. The replay of this call will be archived and made available on the IR section of Genpact's website. I would now like to turn the call over to Krista Bessinger, Head of Investor Relations at Genpact. Please proceed. Speaker 100:00:43Thank you, Michelle. Good afternoon, everyone, and welcome to Genpact's Q2 2024 Earnings Conference Call. We hope you had a chance to read our earnings press release, which was posted on the Investor Relations section of our website, gempac.com. And today, we have with us BK Kalra, President and CEO and Mike Weiner, Chief Financial Officer. BK will start with a high level overview of the quarter and then Mike will cover our financial performance in greater detail before we take your questions. Speaker 100:01:18Please also note that during this call, we will make forward looking statements, including statements about our business outlook, strategies and long term goals. These comments are based on our plans, predictions and expectations as of today, which may change over time. Actual results could differ materially due to a number of important risks and uncertainties, including the risk factors in our 10 ks and 10 Q filings with the SEC. Also during this call, we will discuss certain non GAAP financial measures. We have reconciled those to the most directly comparable GAAP financial measures in our earnings press release. Speaker 100:01:58These non GAAP measures are not intended to be a substitute for our GAAP results. And finally, this call in its entirety is being webcast from our Investor Relations website and an audio replay and transcript will be available on our website in a few hours. And with that, I'd like to turn it over to BK. Speaker 200:02:19Thank you, Christa. Hello, everyone, and thank you for joining us today. I am pleased to report another strong quarter as we continue to successfully deliver on our 3 +1 execution framework. Revenue in Q2 reached $1,180,000,000 up 6% year over year, above the high end of our guidance range with better than expected performance across both Data Tech AI and digital operations. Gross margin of 35.4 percent and adjusted operating income margin of 16.9% also exceeded expectations driven by operating efficiencies. Speaker 200:03:04We are on the right path and momentum is building. For context, in FY 2023, we grew roughly the revenue by $100,000,000 on an absolute basis. In 2024, we have already hit $100,000,000 in incremental revenues in the first half of the year with higher gross margin, all while continuing to invest in our top priorities. Unwavering focus on our 3 +1 execution framework is accelerating growth, and we will continue to build our execution muscle in the second half of the year with a continued focus on: 1, strong partnerships 2, comprehensive data tech AI solutions 3, a simplified go to market approach and our PlusOne that is leading Genpact as our best credential for AI first innovation. Let me walk you through the key highlights on each. Speaker 200:04:071st on partnerships. We see a significant opportunity to accelerate revenue growth as we increase the strength of our partner relationships. To give you a sense, IT service and solution companies with mature partner operations typically generate 20% to 50% of their revenue from partners. For us, partner related revenues was in low single digits in 2023. This represents a significant opportunity for Genpact. Speaker 200:04:40We started ramping our investments in our partnership organization at the beginning of this year. And at the end of Q2, we have more than doubled the percentage of revenue generated by partners with line of sight to generate significantly more in future periods. Growth to date has been driven by investing in world class leadership team, driving awareness, improving go to market activations and scaling delivery capabilities with a number of hyperscaler partners, including Microsoft, AWS, GCP and other key partners like ServiceNow, Salesforce, Databricks to just name a few. 2nd, on Data Tech AI. Our focused go to market approach continued to drive accelerating revenue growth in quarter 2. Speaker 200:05:32GenAI has significantly expanded our total addressable market and is increasingly becoming a driver of our business. While the absolute numbers are still small, Gen AI bookings in the first half of twenty twenty four are already up more than 10 times compared to full year of 2023, with more than 95% of our GenAI bookings year to date contracted on non FTE basis. We also now have more than 80 GenAI solutions in production environments with clients either deployed or going live. Embedding AI into enterprise systems is a significant undertaking. It requires weaving AI into the very fabric of an organization, cutting across data engineering, conversational interfaces, existing IT systems and ultimately weaving AI in end to end business processes. Speaker 200:06:32This represents a significant opportunity for Genpact. We play a critical role in leveraging AI to drive business transformation for our clients because our deep domain expertise at the Keystroke level is essential to the successful implementation of an AI first end to end business processes in production environments. Let me give you a few examples. A leading global provider of financial technology solution has chosen Genpact to drive their business wide transformation and increase scalability and efficiency through the use of GenAI. This is one of the large deals that we signed in the 2nd quarter, and Gen AI is significant part of the design. Speaker 200:07:20We are leveraging our banking domain, end to end process frameworks and technology expertise along with ServiceNow to deliver a suite of AI solutions. These AI solutions are integrated with the client existing IT systems, leveraging large amount of unstructured data to drive competitive advantage and growth. This implementation has a potential to serve as a template that can be replicated across industries. I have talked before about how our deep domain allows us to bridge the gap between out of the box solutions and what clients need on the ground to transform their business processes with GenAI. This case study is a perfect example of that. Speaker 200:08:07Another example is the work we are doing with Mondelez to address their need for upskilling and shorter ramp times for new employees, leveraging Gentec's Quora knowledge assist platform to enable faster access to knowledge, insights and standardized operating procedures. For example, with AldiSuit, here we are transforming their retail operations in U. S. And Australia by leveraging data, technology and AI solutions to drive agility and cost leadership, ultimately creating an exceptional customer experience and driving competitive growth. Our work for Amazon is another great example of AI. Speaker 200:08:50For Amazon, for their out of warranty device customer service in Europe, we have leveraged AI and Amazon Connect to create an end to end solution that integrates AI powered chatbots and enables logistics management, our repair partner network, end to end tracking and proactive customer notifications, all with minimal human interactions. These are just few examples. At the end of the day, clients choose us for 5 key reasons: our deep domain data and AI expertise comprehensive solutions accelerating partner ecosystem client centric approach and innovative technology including our pre built AI accelerators. In a world increasingly driven by advanced technologies, these trends are more critical than ever and enable us to deliver solutions that keep our clients ahead of the curve. Coming back to the 3rd element in our 3 plus 1 execution framework, which is simplification. Speaker 200:09:58We continue to streamline our go to market approach so that we can scale more efficiently. As an example, we have standardized our rate cards across our Data Tech AI service offerings and we are reducing complexity in our end to end sales process by automating workflows and adopting AI contracting tools. And finally, on leading with Genpact as our own best credential for AI driven transformation, we hit a number of major milestones in Q2. I'll give you 2 specific examples. First, we launched our new Cora AI assistant for our global IT help desk. Speaker 200:10:40Since launch, we have seen a 2x increase in user satisfaction and a 30% reduction in service desk staff. Our future road map includes Cora AI assistant for HR, finance, sourcing and many other functions and we aim for similar improvement across these functions. 2nd, AI Guru, our Gen AI powered learning coach, is making personalized learning recommendations for over 60,000 employees, increasing productivity and amplifying the collective knowledge of our internal experts. And that gets me to the talent. Our employees are critical to our success, and we have made significant progress year to date, scaling our broader technology skills as part of our overall investment in DataTech AI. Speaker 200:11:36On foundational Gen AI, we have more than 100,000 employees who are actively learning, 70,000 have completed entry level training and 18,000 have completed more advanced work. For GenAI delivery capabilities, we have 3,000 AI practitioners across the company. And for Applied AI Leadership, we are making a significant change at the most senior levels in the company. 85% of senior leaders will have gone through certification from schools like MIT by end of 2024. As we look ahead, we will continue to invest aggressively in our talent with a focus on practical application of advanced technologies. Speaker 200:12:22Now turning to guidance. With another quarter of better than expected results and strong performance in the first half, we are raising our revenue and EPS outlook for the full year. We are increasing our revenue guidance by 150 basis points to 4% to 5% growth on as reported basis, up from 2.5% to 3.5% previously. Similar to the last quarter, we are not assuming any improvement in the buying environment. We are simply reflecting our improved execution in our full year outlook. Speaker 200:13:01Guidance for gross margin and AOI margin for full year remains unchanged at 35.3% 17%, respectively. As we continue to invest in our top priorities, partnerships and advanced technologies in Data Tech AI to drive accelerating long term growth. For the full year, we are also raising our outlook of adjusted diluted EPS to reflect the strong performance we achieved in the first half with a $0.14 increase at the midpoint of the range. In closing, I would like to extend my heartfelt thanks to every one of our employees. Your dedication is delivering exceptional value to our clients and driving success and growth for Genpact. Speaker 200:13:50As we continue to innovate and expand, your commitment is the cornerstone of our achievement. Thank you. And we continue to sharpen our competitive edge and build the next chapter of Genpact. With that, let me turn the call over to Mike. Speaker 300:14:06Thank you, BK, and good afternoon, everyone. I appreciate your time today as we review our financial performance in the Q2 of 2024 and provide insights into our outlook for the Q3 and full year. I'm pleased to report Genpact delivered another strong quarter, including an all time high income from operations of $170,000,000 We continue to build the foundational improvements needed to drive sustainable growth and efficiencies. Our pipeline reached a record level in the 2nd quarter driven by a healthy mix of small, medium and large deals. Generative AI contributed to our pipeline also doubled in the first half of twenty twenty four. Speaker 300:14:46All this sets us up well for future growth. During the quarter, we added 23 new logos, bringing our first half total to 53 new logos, a 29% increase year over year. We also booked 4 large deals in the quarter. Our win rate was 51%, while sole sourced deals accounted for approximately 45% of total bookings. Highlighting our strong value proposition, we continue to deepen and broaden our client base. Speaker 300:15:17During the Q2 compared to the prior period, we expanded a number of client relationships generating annual revenue greater than $5,000,000 from $180,000,000 to $185,000,000 We also increased the number of clients with annual revenue exceeding $25,000,000 from $38,000,000 to $42,000,000 while 5 of these clients generated more than $100,000,000 in revenue. Now on to our income statement. Total revenue for the quarter was $1,176,000,000 up 6% year over year as reported and 7% on a constant currency basis. This performance which exceeded our expectations is the result of renewed focus on driving results in data, tech and AI and digital operations. Data, tech and AI represents roughly 46% of total revenue in the Q2 and grew 4% year over year on both the reported and constant currency basis. Speaker 300:16:12Growth was primarily driven by supply chain and risk management service lines. Digital operations revenue increased 9% year over year on both the reported and constant currency basis, primarily due to ramp ups of large deals. Digital operations accounted for 54% of total revenue in the quarter. Revenue contributed from outcome and consumption based deals, which excludes fixed fee contracts continues to expand compared to prior year. It now comprises 20% of 2nd quarter revenue, a milestone we achieved at the end of 2023. Speaker 300:16:47This recurring achievement demonstrates our commitments to meeting our long term objectives. Expanding these deals enables us to drive profitable growth and enhance value to our clients. Revenue from priority accounts grew approximately 7% year over year and comprised of 62% of total revenue. Now on to our 3 segments, all which delivered strong results. Revenue in consumer and healthcare grew 7%, while revenue in financial services as well as high-tech manufacturing increased approximately 6% year over year. Speaker 300:17:22The primary revenue growth drivers of all three segments remain largely unchanged from the prior quarters, reflecting stability and consistency in our business operations. Transitioning from top line performance to gross margin of 35.4 percent, up 10 basis points from the prior year quarter driven by operational leverage and modestly lower stock based compensation expense, partly offset by our annual comp cycle. Adjusted operating income margin was 16.9%, up 10 basis points year over year. SG and A as a percentage of revenue declined 40 basis points year over year to 20.4 percent driven by higher operating leverage, some of which results from our ongoing simplification efforts offset by increased investments. Our effective tax rate was 24.9%, up from 22.7% in the prior year quarter, which had a discrete tax benefit. Speaker 300:18:19GAAP net income was 122,000,000 dollars a 5% improvement year over year. GAAP diluted EPS rose to $0.67 a 6% increase year over year. Similarly adjusted diluted EPS climbed to $0.79 up 10% from last year outpacing revenue growth. We continue to generate significant cash from operations. We delivered $209,000,000 compared to $171,000,000 in the prior year period. Speaker 300:18:49Moving on to our balance sheet, cash and cash equivalents were $914,000,000 up $491,000,000 at the end of the same period last year. The cash increase is primarily due to proceeds from our recent bond issuance, which will be used to repay up and coming bond maturities. Days sales outstanding decreased by 2 days versus last quarter. We delivered net debt to EBITDA ratio of 0.9 times for the quarter at the low end of our preferred range. This positions us well for strategic investments in future growth opportunities. Speaker 300:19:23In the Q2, we repurchased approximately 1,900,000 shares at an aggregate cost of $63,000,000 We also paid $27,000,000 in dividends. Overall, we returned approximately $90,000,000 to our shareholders in the 2nd quarter alone. We remain committed to returning capital to shareholders and allocating a minimum of 30% of operating cash flow to share repurchases in addition to the 20% annual dividends. Attrition remains at historical lows at 23% for the Q2, a 200 basis points under the same quarter lower than the same quarter last year. Moving on to expectations for the Q3. Speaker 300:20:07We guided to total revenue in the range of $1,180,000,000 to $1,186,000,000 a year over year growth of approximately 3.9% to 4.4% as reported. This comprised of digital operations and data tech and IO revenue growth of approximately 3.8% and 4.6% versus the prior year period respectively at the midpoint of the range as reported. Gross margin for the quarter is expected to be approximately 35.4% consistent with prior quarter. Adjusted operating income margin is expected to be 17.2% as we continue to invest for long term growth. For the full year, we are raising our adjusted diluted EPS guide. Speaker 300:20:51We now project adjusted diluted EPS to be between $3.14 $3.18 This represents a $0.14 increase at the midpoint of our previous guide and will mark the 4th consecutive year of delivering EPS growth that outpaces revenue. The year over year increase in EPS is driven by adjusted operating income of $0.14 and a $0.09 benefit from lower share count. The increases are forecast to be partially offset by higher interest expense of $0.03 and expected tax rate impact of $0.01 As B. K. Mentioned, we are not anticipating a more favorable market conditions as the year progresses. Speaker 300:21:32We are primarily incorporating the strong performance in the first half into our projections for the full year. Specifically, we are now anticipating total revenue to be between $4,656,000,000 $4,701,000,000 representing a year over year growth of 4% to 5% as reported. This positive adjustment reflects digital operations revenue growth of 5.2% and approximately 3.8% in data tech and AI revenue growth at the midpoint. We continue to expect full year gross margin to be approximately 35.3% and an adjusted operating income margin of 17%, highlighting our ability to maintain profitability while navigating uncertain economic and business environment and investing in our business. We now anticipate to generate approximately $525,000,000 in operating cash flow this year. Speaker 300:22:28In addition to our results driven focus, our strategic investments, robust client relationships and operating excellence, all positions us to navigate the dynamic market environment effectively. These efforts are designed to enhance shareholder value, drive sustainable growth and generate long term returns to our shareholders. Now I'll turn the call back over to Christa. Thank you. Speaker 100:23:07Hi, operator, we're ready to go ahead and pull for questions. Operator00:23:11Thank you. And our first question comes from Maggie Nolan with William Blair. Your line is now open. Speaker 400:23:43Hi, everyone. It's Kate on for Maggie. Congrats on a nice quarter. My first question is, I understand that you guys are not accounting for any improvement in client demand with the revised outlook. But can you provide any update just on where overall client sentiment is right now and how it's evolved over the past quarter? Speaker 200:24:06I'll take that, this is BK. So first of all, thanks so much. And what I can report on the client sentiment that it has largely stayed the same as we have observed over the last 6 months or I would say even over the last 12 months. So we haven't seen, as an example, in the discretionary spends, neither any improvement. And yes, no deterioration either. Speaker 200:24:37And clients continue to stay very cautious, very watchful and continue to be almost in the same zone given all the uncertainties that surround them. Speaker 400:24:55Great. Thank you, BK. And then my next question is, it was nice to hear about the continued increase in consumption and outcome based deals. Has your long term mindset changed at all and what that percentage could eventually get up to? Speaker 300:25:13Sure. This is Mike. I'll take that one. So you're correct. We've already reached our goal that we put out ahead of schedule on that. Speaker 300:25:20While we don't have any concrete numbers to share today, but you can expect that number to be notionally higher as we move forward in the year. But I think what's so important about it is as we're approximately at 20% right now is also to think about it's not just that it's helping us pivot this new economic model. But if we look back at that 20%, the margin on it continues to remain robust and above average. So more to come on that. Speaker 400:25:48Great. Thank you, Michael B. K. Speaker 200:25:51Thank you. Operator00:25:53And the next question comes from Bryan Bergin with TD Cowen. Your line is open. Speaker 500:26:01Hey guys, good afternoon. Thank you. Deacon, maybe a high level question. You've been in the role 6 plus months now. Can you give some perspective on the initiatives that you think have worked really well here versus any of those that are moving slower? Speaker 500:26:14And just any area added areas of emphasis for you as you're working through the second half of twenty twenty four? Speaker 200:26:22Absolutely, Brian. Thanks. So as we clearly articulated, Brian, that we are focused predominantly on these 4 initiatives, what we call as 3+1, which I am building through line across the company as well along with all the colleagues in Genpact. And what I would gladly say that all of these 3 plus 1 initiatives be it plus 1 being Genpact building Genpact as the best credential on AI First Journey or in the 3 client facing ones, the first one being partnership, the second one on Datatech AI and third more simplified go to market motions. All of them are progressing really well and some I reflected already. Speaker 200:27:08What we have also done, Brian, that killed many initiatives and that has helped us focus on these initiatives that are meaningfully better for our future as well as our present and we are seeing results. Having said all of that, we are also leaning hard into innovation, innovation represented by Data and GenAI. And we are at the early stages of that and more to come on that. Speaker 500:27:40Okay, understood. And then as it relates to digital operations, so a nice uptick here in 2Q, that sequential uptick. As we compare that to the 3Q and the 4Q outlook, can you just maybe tease out if anything changes, the outlook flattens out a little bit. Was there anything that happened in 2Q that allowed for that strong ramp? Anything one time or just more so kind of the prudent approach you've demonstrated? Speaker 200:28:05It is more prudent approach, Brian. I think we continue to see earning of large deals into each quarter how all how all the cadences on various deals even this year, be it small deals, medium deals, large deals. And it is we are but also wanting to maintain a prudent approach as we go through the balance of the year. Speaker 500:28:39All right. Makes sense. Speaker 600:28:40Thank you. Speaker 200:28:41Thank you, Brad. Operator00:28:44And our next question comes from Ravi Bamberger with Baird. Your line is now open. Speaker 700:28:53Yes. Thanks for taking my question. So in terms of the large deals you noted at the end of 2023, can you maybe touch on how that large deal revenue is flowing through in 2024 2025 and maybe the puts and takes of the larger deals on EBIT and gross margins for 2024? Speaker 300:29:12Let me kick that off and maybe BK can opine on it. So in the second half of twenty twenty four, we had a notable amount of large deals that started to ramp that continued throughout the 1st 2 quarters of this year, I apologize, 2023 into 2024. Those continue to perform very well and we're at the point where they're ramping. Those deals typically come in at the beginning at a lower gross margin and end up at a higher gross margin as they move through the pipeline and as they mature. Keep in mind, our large deal for us typically can be about a 5 year in terms of their duration. Speaker 600:29:48So if Speaker 300:29:48you think about our guide for the remaining piece of the year, it really does reflect that movement as we move forward. Speaker 200:29:55Very well said. And I think we'll continue with the momentum overall, Robbie. Speaker 700:30:03Perfect. And then in terms of the Gen AI deals, you noted 95% of Gen AI bookings on a non FTE basis. So can you maybe dive into the pricing of these non FTE based contracts that you have with clients? Are they higher margin than normal contracts? Speaker 200:30:20Yes. A number of these Gen AI deals are which is also reflected in the quarter end results that we just spoke about are non FTE based. When we say non FTE based, they are largely more based on outcomes, outcomes they generate for our clients and how we get paid for it. And most of our outcome deals are at a higher profitability. And that's what we are anchoring the entire Speaker 600:30:53company on. Great. Thank you. Speaker 200:30:57Thank you, Robbie. Operator00:30:59Our next question comes from Mayank Tandon with Needham. Your line is open. Speaker 800:31:06Thank you. Good evening. Bala, you mentioned that the JNI opportunity expands your TAM. So could you maybe just give us some sense of how it does it? Is it just opening up new avenues of growth that haven't been explored before by clients? Speaker 800:31:21Just maybe a little bit more details around how it expands the TAM and maybe if you could quantify it too? Speaker 200:31:28Yes. So I think quantification might be challenging at this early stages, but clearly what we see, Mayank, is increasing of our TAM, be it in the bookings that we are seeing or even in our pipeline or a number of solutions that we are baking for clients as we speak. And it increases TAM because of 2 or 3 reasons. 1, it expands the scope of opportunity that we are talking about, point number 1. Point number 2, given especially with Gen AI and AI always existed at least for a decade, I would say. Speaker 200:32:08But with Gen AI, a lot of our clients have also woken up to this transformative opportunity. And therefore, they are engaging while we are engaging with them in different buying centers. And given our intense client centric approach, we get called in some of the areas where we were earlier not getting calls. So those are obviously adding to opportunities as well. So our TAM in a particular client as well as TAM in a particular opportunity within the client. Speaker 200:32:43And if you look at the example that I shared in my prepared remarks, in that Financial Services Industry case, overall, the deal size, it's a large deal. We call large deals are greater than $50,000,000 as much bigger than $50,000,000 The deal size pre Gen AI or post Gen AI is much bigger in TCD. Speaker 300:33:10I would just quickly add on. So I said in my remarks as well, our pipeline reached a record level in the Q2, right? So if you also think about the Gen AI contribution of that has more than doubled in the 6 months of this year versus the full year next year. So we are seeing a net increase in our quality pipeline, which does support the notion that BK alluded to as a TAM enhancer to it. And then if you extrapolate upon that as BK alluded to with outcome based deals and looking at the margin on that being higher, we feel very positive about it as a net TAM enhancer and a net revenue enhancer to our business on our franchise. Speaker 800:33:52That's helpful. But on margins then, I would be curious, does this potentially create a nice tailwind for you and maybe helps you close the gap versus your peers that Ron had slightly higher adjusted EBIT margins. I think the general margin level has been high teens, low 20s. I think you have some more headroom to get there. Is this potentially a longer term tailwind to close that gap? Speaker 300:34:182 things. So potentially yes, Brent. But keep in mind as well that our adjusted operating income margin, right, continues to remain stable as we've taken fluid through the operating leverage that we have in our business and have made substantial investments into our franchise on a go forward basis. The things BK alluded to earlier, including enhanced training, investments in partnerships and all of these things, we think are a pivotal part to our company to generate long term sustainable growth. So we'll be doing that at least for the foreseeable future this year and that's reflected in our numbers. Speaker 800:34:57Great. Thank you for all that color. Congrats on the quarter. Speaker 300:35:00Thank you. Operator00:35:03Our next question comes from Surinder Thind with Jefferies. Your line is open. Speaker 900:35:10Thank you. I'd like to start with a question about the partnerships. It's quite surprising that your partnership revenue sourcing is quite low. Can you help us understand why the strategy was what it was, given that the difference between your peers is so significant and how quickly do you think you can ultimately close that gap to get to where maybe where your peers are? Speaker 200:35:38Yes. So we are moving ahead rapidly and therefore investing rapidly, Surinder. And given we were running many initiatives, as I also alluded to earlier in the commentary, it was generating results not fast enough. And that is what is changing. And we are very, very pleased with the investments we have made. Speaker 200:36:05And given we had made many of these connections with various hyperscalers or other iconic partners. We have been in relationship with them for X number of years, but not in a focused manner. And now they see us more. We have a pretty strong leader and a very strong team, possibly one of the best team in the industry that we have put up. And we are seeing early results and we certainly want to close this gap fast. Speaker 900:36:37Just any color on how quickly that gap can are we talking about like a 5 year journey or is it something shorter or just any color. Speaker 200:36:475 year is a very long time. Surinder, we are not thinking 5 year horizons. But clearly want to get to double digit fast. Speaker 300:36:59Yes. I would also bring on I would also just quickly bring on as well. I think we can all agree nobody has better insight into what we call keystroke level information and data that we have. As our clients and hyperscalers and other partners that we deal with continue to want to penetrate with their offerings, Nobody has a better domain level experience in our chosen verticals than we do. So net net, it's a win for Genpact. Speaker 300:37:26It's a win for our clients, right? And it's a win for our partners. So we're putting a lot of effort and money towards that and we think we'll see results in the not too distant future. Speaker 900:37:37That's helpful. And then in terms of just the innovation pipeline, I think you alluded to some ideas. You said there's more coming. Conceptually, are you pushing towards like building proprietary LLMs? Are you trying to build other pieces of software related to workflow? Speaker 900:37:57How should we think about what's coming down the pipeline at this point? Speaker 200:38:02I would say all of the above and more. As an example, if you think we are one of the largest players in finance. And within finance, we are developing various LLMs, including for, let's say, accounts payable and building many of what we are calling edge solutions internally, which are backed off by many of the LLMs. So a number of those innovation ideas are taking shape as we speak. Speaker 900:38:36Thank you. Speaker 200:38:38Thanks, Aveda. Operator00:38:40The next question comes from Brian Keane with Deutsche Bank. Your line is open. Speaker 600:38:49Hi, guys. Saw the results here. I wanted to ask about some of the Gen AI bookings. And I think you said 95% of those bookings are on the non FTE basis. I know you're really not generating much revenue yet from Gen AI, but how do those contracts price competitively versus the marketplace? Speaker 600:39:11And how do you know if on renewals and other deals, if you'll be generating the same types of revenue you're generating that was typically on an FTE basis? Speaker 200:39:22Yes. Brian, a number of these one, we have we report sole source as well. A number of these are sole source opportunities too. But even in a competitive environment, it is a lot of it is part of embedded solution that Gen AI is integral part of. And as we are moving and pushing the agenda more on non Feet basis, a lot of these solutions are therefore now with these technologies, which are a number of them are IP, a number of them are partner solutions. Speaker 200:40:06We are centered on what are the outcomes that they are achieving for our clients and how that cadence of outcome then also flows to us. And what we are seeing is early good results. Speaker 300:40:25P. K, I'll just quickly bridge upon that. Well, Gen AI is net new and a frothy level of discussion. AI is not new to us as well as other enhancements and productivity tools, right? It seems to be a big focus of it. Speaker 300:40:39We are not able or have not been able to generate the efficiencies and profitability for our clients and for ourselves without utilizing tools. So this will continue to evolve over time. It is a net new technology, but it's really an enhancement or an evolution of what we've done in terms of using technologies to drive outcomes. Speaker 600:41:02Got it. And then just a follow-up, maybe I can ask the guidance question a little bit differently. Since the growth rate was so strong in Q2, what would cause the growth rate to decelerate the way you guys guided to because it just seems like the momentum you have, especially with the partnerships, we're going to see similar growth rates, if not better, in the Q3 and not the deceleration? Speaker 300:41:28Yes, I think I'll start this one. I think it really first starts with a consistent business environment. Keep in mind about 2, excuse me, 3 quarters of our business is annuitized, so we have a very good view into that. The other 25% cohort of our business tends to be shorter duration deals that we have to earn and win throughout the year, right? So we're just not anticipating any real change in the macro business environment and we remain prudent in terms of our guide. Speaker 300:42:01In addition to it is, yes, we had strong growth in the first half of the year, particularly off of better execution, namely in a lot of those large deals, which in many cases will be lapping each other. So we'll continue to monitor the business environment. But again, we remain prudent in how we think about it for the next two quarters. Speaker 600:42:22Got it. Thanks guys. Speaker 300:42:25Thank you. Operator00:42:27The next question comes from Sean Kennedy with Mizuho. Your line is open. Speaker 1000:42:35Hi, good evening and congrats on the results. Speaker 1100:42:38So I was wondering Speaker 1000:42:39about the go to market approach on focusing on Data Tech AI and Gen AI solutions. So how does your team sell these solutions into your customer base? And did you change the sales incentives to help achieve these results? Speaker 200:42:54Yes, sales incentives changed, Sean, and we continue to iterate and improve on that as well as we go along. And typically what we have is offering hubs. So there are series of offerings that we have developed based on the client set and the needs and the competencies that we have. And these offerings are many of them are just Genpact offerings or also on the marketplace of our partners. And then depending upon active sales motion in all of the clients that we operate in, depending upon the needs, there is active activation of these offerings that happen in different client situations. Speaker 200:43:43And there is from a simplification standpoint, we've also set up certain rituals and rigor that is driving accountability and agility in the organization. Speaker 1000:43:56Got it. Thank you. Speaker 200:44:00Thanks, Sean. Operator00:44:02And our next question comes from Keith Bachman with BMO. Your line is open. Speaker 1100:44:10Hi, good afternoon, good evening. Guys, I wanted to ask first on how would you characterize pricing in the first half of calendar year 'twenty four versus the same time last year. One of your competitors, big competitors, just their pricing is much more across the PPO landscape. How would you say it? Speaker 300:44:32Yes. Thanks for that question. It's Mike. We've heard that before, right? So we've thought about it. Speaker 300:44:38We have had year over year and sequential I think we're alluding to in terms of pricing, particularly in our digital operations business, right? Keep in mind half of it is predominantly a sole source and half is not, has been relatively consistent. We haven't seen anything irrational that's really gone on in pricing. And so it's hard for us to comment on others. P. Speaker 300:45:02K, any views? Speaker 1100:45:03No. Speaker 200:45:05I think you're right. It's a reasonably competitive environment, but we haven't seen any irrational behavior in the marketplace. Okay. Speaker 1100:45:12Related to that, could you be willing to provide what, for your son, your business should face services related or customer facing? What percent of that is total now? Call center business would be a part of that, but I'm talking DX more broadly. How much do you have of service related business? Speaker 300:45:31Yes. So in the past, we've talked about that in terms of I think you're asking about customer service related business, that type of work. When you aggregate it up in the many in what we do for a lot of our customers in a lot of different flavors and you take that aggregate revenue, it's less than 10% of our business of our revenue, I should say. Speaker 500:45:53Yes. Last question for me then, Speaker 1100:45:54a quickie is, IBM and Accenture have said that, Gen AI, great growth for everybody in the industry, but it's not additive to customer demand in order to pursue these projects, it's coming out of it's sourced from some other area, if you will. It sounds like you guys have a different view of that, but I just wanted to try to clarify because Mike you clearly said you think it's additive to the pool, but I just wanted to make sure I heard that correctly. Speaker 300:46:24Yes, you're hearing that correctly. Again, it's hard for us to comment on other companies in terms of what their native mix of businesses. But we look clearly at our pipeline at our very defined definition of what generative AI is. We are seeing it as a net enhancer to our pipeline. So, when BK talks about, we view the TAM on this being a driver of our sustainable growth in the future as opposed to a trade off, we're just not seeing that. Speaker 1100:46:54Perfect. Okay. Many thanks guys. Cheers. Thank Operator00:47:00you, Keith. I show no further questions at this time. I would now like to turn the call back to the company for closing remarks. Speaker 200:47:21Thank you. Thank you, Michelle. Quarter 2 was another strong quarter for Genpact. 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There are 12 speakers on the call. Operator00:00:00Good day, ladies and gentlemen. Welcome to the 2024 Second Quarter Genpact Limited Earnings Conference Call. My name is Michelle, and I will be your conference moderator for today. At this time, all participants are in a listen only mode. We will conduct a question and answer session towards the end of this conference call. Operator00:00:21As a reminder, this call is being recorded for replay purposes. The replay of this call will be archived and made available on the IR section of Genpact's website. I would now like to turn the call over to Krista Bessinger, Head of Investor Relations at Genpact. Please proceed. Speaker 100:00:43Thank you, Michelle. Good afternoon, everyone, and welcome to Genpact's Q2 2024 Earnings Conference Call. We hope you had a chance to read our earnings press release, which was posted on the Investor Relations section of our website, gempac.com. And today, we have with us BK Kalra, President and CEO and Mike Weiner, Chief Financial Officer. BK will start with a high level overview of the quarter and then Mike will cover our financial performance in greater detail before we take your questions. Speaker 100:01:18Please also note that during this call, we will make forward looking statements, including statements about our business outlook, strategies and long term goals. These comments are based on our plans, predictions and expectations as of today, which may change over time. Actual results could differ materially due to a number of important risks and uncertainties, including the risk factors in our 10 ks and 10 Q filings with the SEC. Also during this call, we will discuss certain non GAAP financial measures. We have reconciled those to the most directly comparable GAAP financial measures in our earnings press release. Speaker 100:01:58These non GAAP measures are not intended to be a substitute for our GAAP results. And finally, this call in its entirety is being webcast from our Investor Relations website and an audio replay and transcript will be available on our website in a few hours. And with that, I'd like to turn it over to BK. Speaker 200:02:19Thank you, Christa. Hello, everyone, and thank you for joining us today. I am pleased to report another strong quarter as we continue to successfully deliver on our 3 +1 execution framework. Revenue in Q2 reached $1,180,000,000 up 6% year over year, above the high end of our guidance range with better than expected performance across both Data Tech AI and digital operations. Gross margin of 35.4 percent and adjusted operating income margin of 16.9% also exceeded expectations driven by operating efficiencies. Speaker 200:03:04We are on the right path and momentum is building. For context, in FY 2023, we grew roughly the revenue by $100,000,000 on an absolute basis. In 2024, we have already hit $100,000,000 in incremental revenues in the first half of the year with higher gross margin, all while continuing to invest in our top priorities. Unwavering focus on our 3 +1 execution framework is accelerating growth, and we will continue to build our execution muscle in the second half of the year with a continued focus on: 1, strong partnerships 2, comprehensive data tech AI solutions 3, a simplified go to market approach and our PlusOne that is leading Genpact as our best credential for AI first innovation. Let me walk you through the key highlights on each. Speaker 200:04:071st on partnerships. We see a significant opportunity to accelerate revenue growth as we increase the strength of our partner relationships. To give you a sense, IT service and solution companies with mature partner operations typically generate 20% to 50% of their revenue from partners. For us, partner related revenues was in low single digits in 2023. This represents a significant opportunity for Genpact. Speaker 200:04:40We started ramping our investments in our partnership organization at the beginning of this year. And at the end of Q2, we have more than doubled the percentage of revenue generated by partners with line of sight to generate significantly more in future periods. Growth to date has been driven by investing in world class leadership team, driving awareness, improving go to market activations and scaling delivery capabilities with a number of hyperscaler partners, including Microsoft, AWS, GCP and other key partners like ServiceNow, Salesforce, Databricks to just name a few. 2nd, on Data Tech AI. Our focused go to market approach continued to drive accelerating revenue growth in quarter 2. Speaker 200:05:32GenAI has significantly expanded our total addressable market and is increasingly becoming a driver of our business. While the absolute numbers are still small, Gen AI bookings in the first half of twenty twenty four are already up more than 10 times compared to full year of 2023, with more than 95% of our GenAI bookings year to date contracted on non FTE basis. We also now have more than 80 GenAI solutions in production environments with clients either deployed or going live. Embedding AI into enterprise systems is a significant undertaking. It requires weaving AI into the very fabric of an organization, cutting across data engineering, conversational interfaces, existing IT systems and ultimately weaving AI in end to end business processes. Speaker 200:06:32This represents a significant opportunity for Genpact. We play a critical role in leveraging AI to drive business transformation for our clients because our deep domain expertise at the Keystroke level is essential to the successful implementation of an AI first end to end business processes in production environments. Let me give you a few examples. A leading global provider of financial technology solution has chosen Genpact to drive their business wide transformation and increase scalability and efficiency through the use of GenAI. This is one of the large deals that we signed in the 2nd quarter, and Gen AI is significant part of the design. Speaker 200:07:20We are leveraging our banking domain, end to end process frameworks and technology expertise along with ServiceNow to deliver a suite of AI solutions. These AI solutions are integrated with the client existing IT systems, leveraging large amount of unstructured data to drive competitive advantage and growth. This implementation has a potential to serve as a template that can be replicated across industries. I have talked before about how our deep domain allows us to bridge the gap between out of the box solutions and what clients need on the ground to transform their business processes with GenAI. This case study is a perfect example of that. Speaker 200:08:07Another example is the work we are doing with Mondelez to address their need for upskilling and shorter ramp times for new employees, leveraging Gentec's Quora knowledge assist platform to enable faster access to knowledge, insights and standardized operating procedures. For example, with AldiSuit, here we are transforming their retail operations in U. S. And Australia by leveraging data, technology and AI solutions to drive agility and cost leadership, ultimately creating an exceptional customer experience and driving competitive growth. Our work for Amazon is another great example of AI. Speaker 200:08:50For Amazon, for their out of warranty device customer service in Europe, we have leveraged AI and Amazon Connect to create an end to end solution that integrates AI powered chatbots and enables logistics management, our repair partner network, end to end tracking and proactive customer notifications, all with minimal human interactions. These are just few examples. At the end of the day, clients choose us for 5 key reasons: our deep domain data and AI expertise comprehensive solutions accelerating partner ecosystem client centric approach and innovative technology including our pre built AI accelerators. In a world increasingly driven by advanced technologies, these trends are more critical than ever and enable us to deliver solutions that keep our clients ahead of the curve. Coming back to the 3rd element in our 3 plus 1 execution framework, which is simplification. Speaker 200:09:58We continue to streamline our go to market approach so that we can scale more efficiently. As an example, we have standardized our rate cards across our Data Tech AI service offerings and we are reducing complexity in our end to end sales process by automating workflows and adopting AI contracting tools. And finally, on leading with Genpact as our own best credential for AI driven transformation, we hit a number of major milestones in Q2. I'll give you 2 specific examples. First, we launched our new Cora AI assistant for our global IT help desk. Speaker 200:10:40Since launch, we have seen a 2x increase in user satisfaction and a 30% reduction in service desk staff. Our future road map includes Cora AI assistant for HR, finance, sourcing and many other functions and we aim for similar improvement across these functions. 2nd, AI Guru, our Gen AI powered learning coach, is making personalized learning recommendations for over 60,000 employees, increasing productivity and amplifying the collective knowledge of our internal experts. And that gets me to the talent. Our employees are critical to our success, and we have made significant progress year to date, scaling our broader technology skills as part of our overall investment in DataTech AI. Speaker 200:11:36On foundational Gen AI, we have more than 100,000 employees who are actively learning, 70,000 have completed entry level training and 18,000 have completed more advanced work. For GenAI delivery capabilities, we have 3,000 AI practitioners across the company. And for Applied AI Leadership, we are making a significant change at the most senior levels in the company. 85% of senior leaders will have gone through certification from schools like MIT by end of 2024. As we look ahead, we will continue to invest aggressively in our talent with a focus on practical application of advanced technologies. Speaker 200:12:22Now turning to guidance. With another quarter of better than expected results and strong performance in the first half, we are raising our revenue and EPS outlook for the full year. We are increasing our revenue guidance by 150 basis points to 4% to 5% growth on as reported basis, up from 2.5% to 3.5% previously. Similar to the last quarter, we are not assuming any improvement in the buying environment. We are simply reflecting our improved execution in our full year outlook. Speaker 200:13:01Guidance for gross margin and AOI margin for full year remains unchanged at 35.3% 17%, respectively. As we continue to invest in our top priorities, partnerships and advanced technologies in Data Tech AI to drive accelerating long term growth. For the full year, we are also raising our outlook of adjusted diluted EPS to reflect the strong performance we achieved in the first half with a $0.14 increase at the midpoint of the range. In closing, I would like to extend my heartfelt thanks to every one of our employees. Your dedication is delivering exceptional value to our clients and driving success and growth for Genpact. Speaker 200:13:50As we continue to innovate and expand, your commitment is the cornerstone of our achievement. Thank you. And we continue to sharpen our competitive edge and build the next chapter of Genpact. With that, let me turn the call over to Mike. Speaker 300:14:06Thank you, BK, and good afternoon, everyone. I appreciate your time today as we review our financial performance in the Q2 of 2024 and provide insights into our outlook for the Q3 and full year. I'm pleased to report Genpact delivered another strong quarter, including an all time high income from operations of $170,000,000 We continue to build the foundational improvements needed to drive sustainable growth and efficiencies. Our pipeline reached a record level in the 2nd quarter driven by a healthy mix of small, medium and large deals. Generative AI contributed to our pipeline also doubled in the first half of twenty twenty four. Speaker 300:14:46All this sets us up well for future growth. During the quarter, we added 23 new logos, bringing our first half total to 53 new logos, a 29% increase year over year. We also booked 4 large deals in the quarter. Our win rate was 51%, while sole sourced deals accounted for approximately 45% of total bookings. Highlighting our strong value proposition, we continue to deepen and broaden our client base. Speaker 300:15:17During the Q2 compared to the prior period, we expanded a number of client relationships generating annual revenue greater than $5,000,000 from $180,000,000 to $185,000,000 We also increased the number of clients with annual revenue exceeding $25,000,000 from $38,000,000 to $42,000,000 while 5 of these clients generated more than $100,000,000 in revenue. Now on to our income statement. Total revenue for the quarter was $1,176,000,000 up 6% year over year as reported and 7% on a constant currency basis. This performance which exceeded our expectations is the result of renewed focus on driving results in data, tech and AI and digital operations. Data, tech and AI represents roughly 46% of total revenue in the Q2 and grew 4% year over year on both the reported and constant currency basis. Speaker 300:16:12Growth was primarily driven by supply chain and risk management service lines. Digital operations revenue increased 9% year over year on both the reported and constant currency basis, primarily due to ramp ups of large deals. Digital operations accounted for 54% of total revenue in the quarter. Revenue contributed from outcome and consumption based deals, which excludes fixed fee contracts continues to expand compared to prior year. It now comprises 20% of 2nd quarter revenue, a milestone we achieved at the end of 2023. Speaker 300:16:47This recurring achievement demonstrates our commitments to meeting our long term objectives. Expanding these deals enables us to drive profitable growth and enhance value to our clients. Revenue from priority accounts grew approximately 7% year over year and comprised of 62% of total revenue. Now on to our 3 segments, all which delivered strong results. Revenue in consumer and healthcare grew 7%, while revenue in financial services as well as high-tech manufacturing increased approximately 6% year over year. Speaker 300:17:22The primary revenue growth drivers of all three segments remain largely unchanged from the prior quarters, reflecting stability and consistency in our business operations. Transitioning from top line performance to gross margin of 35.4 percent, up 10 basis points from the prior year quarter driven by operational leverage and modestly lower stock based compensation expense, partly offset by our annual comp cycle. Adjusted operating income margin was 16.9%, up 10 basis points year over year. SG and A as a percentage of revenue declined 40 basis points year over year to 20.4 percent driven by higher operating leverage, some of which results from our ongoing simplification efforts offset by increased investments. Our effective tax rate was 24.9%, up from 22.7% in the prior year quarter, which had a discrete tax benefit. Speaker 300:18:19GAAP net income was 122,000,000 dollars a 5% improvement year over year. GAAP diluted EPS rose to $0.67 a 6% increase year over year. Similarly adjusted diluted EPS climbed to $0.79 up 10% from last year outpacing revenue growth. We continue to generate significant cash from operations. We delivered $209,000,000 compared to $171,000,000 in the prior year period. Speaker 300:18:49Moving on to our balance sheet, cash and cash equivalents were $914,000,000 up $491,000,000 at the end of the same period last year. The cash increase is primarily due to proceeds from our recent bond issuance, which will be used to repay up and coming bond maturities. Days sales outstanding decreased by 2 days versus last quarter. We delivered net debt to EBITDA ratio of 0.9 times for the quarter at the low end of our preferred range. This positions us well for strategic investments in future growth opportunities. Speaker 300:19:23In the Q2, we repurchased approximately 1,900,000 shares at an aggregate cost of $63,000,000 We also paid $27,000,000 in dividends. Overall, we returned approximately $90,000,000 to our shareholders in the 2nd quarter alone. We remain committed to returning capital to shareholders and allocating a minimum of 30% of operating cash flow to share repurchases in addition to the 20% annual dividends. Attrition remains at historical lows at 23% for the Q2, a 200 basis points under the same quarter lower than the same quarter last year. Moving on to expectations for the Q3. Speaker 300:20:07We guided to total revenue in the range of $1,180,000,000 to $1,186,000,000 a year over year growth of approximately 3.9% to 4.4% as reported. This comprised of digital operations and data tech and IO revenue growth of approximately 3.8% and 4.6% versus the prior year period respectively at the midpoint of the range as reported. Gross margin for the quarter is expected to be approximately 35.4% consistent with prior quarter. Adjusted operating income margin is expected to be 17.2% as we continue to invest for long term growth. For the full year, we are raising our adjusted diluted EPS guide. Speaker 300:20:51We now project adjusted diluted EPS to be between $3.14 $3.18 This represents a $0.14 increase at the midpoint of our previous guide and will mark the 4th consecutive year of delivering EPS growth that outpaces revenue. The year over year increase in EPS is driven by adjusted operating income of $0.14 and a $0.09 benefit from lower share count. The increases are forecast to be partially offset by higher interest expense of $0.03 and expected tax rate impact of $0.01 As B. K. Mentioned, we are not anticipating a more favorable market conditions as the year progresses. Speaker 300:21:32We are primarily incorporating the strong performance in the first half into our projections for the full year. Specifically, we are now anticipating total revenue to be between $4,656,000,000 $4,701,000,000 representing a year over year growth of 4% to 5% as reported. This positive adjustment reflects digital operations revenue growth of 5.2% and approximately 3.8% in data tech and AI revenue growth at the midpoint. We continue to expect full year gross margin to be approximately 35.3% and an adjusted operating income margin of 17%, highlighting our ability to maintain profitability while navigating uncertain economic and business environment and investing in our business. We now anticipate to generate approximately $525,000,000 in operating cash flow this year. Speaker 300:22:28In addition to our results driven focus, our strategic investments, robust client relationships and operating excellence, all positions us to navigate the dynamic market environment effectively. These efforts are designed to enhance shareholder value, drive sustainable growth and generate long term returns to our shareholders. Now I'll turn the call back over to Christa. Thank you. Speaker 100:23:07Hi, operator, we're ready to go ahead and pull for questions. Operator00:23:11Thank you. And our first question comes from Maggie Nolan with William Blair. Your line is now open. Speaker 400:23:43Hi, everyone. It's Kate on for Maggie. Congrats on a nice quarter. My first question is, I understand that you guys are not accounting for any improvement in client demand with the revised outlook. But can you provide any update just on where overall client sentiment is right now and how it's evolved over the past quarter? Speaker 200:24:06I'll take that, this is BK. So first of all, thanks so much. And what I can report on the client sentiment that it has largely stayed the same as we have observed over the last 6 months or I would say even over the last 12 months. So we haven't seen, as an example, in the discretionary spends, neither any improvement. And yes, no deterioration either. Speaker 200:24:37And clients continue to stay very cautious, very watchful and continue to be almost in the same zone given all the uncertainties that surround them. Speaker 400:24:55Great. Thank you, BK. And then my next question is, it was nice to hear about the continued increase in consumption and outcome based deals. Has your long term mindset changed at all and what that percentage could eventually get up to? Speaker 300:25:13Sure. This is Mike. I'll take that one. So you're correct. We've already reached our goal that we put out ahead of schedule on that. Speaker 300:25:20While we don't have any concrete numbers to share today, but you can expect that number to be notionally higher as we move forward in the year. But I think what's so important about it is as we're approximately at 20% right now is also to think about it's not just that it's helping us pivot this new economic model. But if we look back at that 20%, the margin on it continues to remain robust and above average. So more to come on that. Speaker 400:25:48Great. Thank you, Michael B. K. Speaker 200:25:51Thank you. Operator00:25:53And the next question comes from Bryan Bergin with TD Cowen. Your line is open. Speaker 500:26:01Hey guys, good afternoon. Thank you. Deacon, maybe a high level question. You've been in the role 6 plus months now. Can you give some perspective on the initiatives that you think have worked really well here versus any of those that are moving slower? Speaker 500:26:14And just any area added areas of emphasis for you as you're working through the second half of twenty twenty four? Speaker 200:26:22Absolutely, Brian. Thanks. So as we clearly articulated, Brian, that we are focused predominantly on these 4 initiatives, what we call as 3+1, which I am building through line across the company as well along with all the colleagues in Genpact. And what I would gladly say that all of these 3 plus 1 initiatives be it plus 1 being Genpact building Genpact as the best credential on AI First Journey or in the 3 client facing ones, the first one being partnership, the second one on Datatech AI and third more simplified go to market motions. All of them are progressing really well and some I reflected already. Speaker 200:27:08What we have also done, Brian, that killed many initiatives and that has helped us focus on these initiatives that are meaningfully better for our future as well as our present and we are seeing results. Having said all of that, we are also leaning hard into innovation, innovation represented by Data and GenAI. And we are at the early stages of that and more to come on that. Speaker 500:27:40Okay, understood. And then as it relates to digital operations, so a nice uptick here in 2Q, that sequential uptick. As we compare that to the 3Q and the 4Q outlook, can you just maybe tease out if anything changes, the outlook flattens out a little bit. Was there anything that happened in 2Q that allowed for that strong ramp? Anything one time or just more so kind of the prudent approach you've demonstrated? Speaker 200:28:05It is more prudent approach, Brian. I think we continue to see earning of large deals into each quarter how all how all the cadences on various deals even this year, be it small deals, medium deals, large deals. And it is we are but also wanting to maintain a prudent approach as we go through the balance of the year. Speaker 500:28:39All right. Makes sense. Speaker 600:28:40Thank you. Speaker 200:28:41Thank you, Brad. Operator00:28:44And our next question comes from Ravi Bamberger with Baird. Your line is now open. Speaker 700:28:53Yes. Thanks for taking my question. So in terms of the large deals you noted at the end of 2023, can you maybe touch on how that large deal revenue is flowing through in 2024 2025 and maybe the puts and takes of the larger deals on EBIT and gross margins for 2024? Speaker 300:29:12Let me kick that off and maybe BK can opine on it. So in the second half of twenty twenty four, we had a notable amount of large deals that started to ramp that continued throughout the 1st 2 quarters of this year, I apologize, 2023 into 2024. Those continue to perform very well and we're at the point where they're ramping. Those deals typically come in at the beginning at a lower gross margin and end up at a higher gross margin as they move through the pipeline and as they mature. Keep in mind, our large deal for us typically can be about a 5 year in terms of their duration. Speaker 600:29:48So if Speaker 300:29:48you think about our guide for the remaining piece of the year, it really does reflect that movement as we move forward. Speaker 200:29:55Very well said. And I think we'll continue with the momentum overall, Robbie. Speaker 700:30:03Perfect. And then in terms of the Gen AI deals, you noted 95% of Gen AI bookings on a non FTE basis. So can you maybe dive into the pricing of these non FTE based contracts that you have with clients? Are they higher margin than normal contracts? Speaker 200:30:20Yes. A number of these Gen AI deals are which is also reflected in the quarter end results that we just spoke about are non FTE based. When we say non FTE based, they are largely more based on outcomes, outcomes they generate for our clients and how we get paid for it. And most of our outcome deals are at a higher profitability. And that's what we are anchoring the entire Speaker 600:30:53company on. Great. Thank you. Speaker 200:30:57Thank you, Robbie. Operator00:30:59Our next question comes from Mayank Tandon with Needham. Your line is open. Speaker 800:31:06Thank you. Good evening. Bala, you mentioned that the JNI opportunity expands your TAM. So could you maybe just give us some sense of how it does it? Is it just opening up new avenues of growth that haven't been explored before by clients? Speaker 800:31:21Just maybe a little bit more details around how it expands the TAM and maybe if you could quantify it too? Speaker 200:31:28Yes. So I think quantification might be challenging at this early stages, but clearly what we see, Mayank, is increasing of our TAM, be it in the bookings that we are seeing or even in our pipeline or a number of solutions that we are baking for clients as we speak. And it increases TAM because of 2 or 3 reasons. 1, it expands the scope of opportunity that we are talking about, point number 1. Point number 2, given especially with Gen AI and AI always existed at least for a decade, I would say. Speaker 200:32:08But with Gen AI, a lot of our clients have also woken up to this transformative opportunity. And therefore, they are engaging while we are engaging with them in different buying centers. And given our intense client centric approach, we get called in some of the areas where we were earlier not getting calls. So those are obviously adding to opportunities as well. So our TAM in a particular client as well as TAM in a particular opportunity within the client. Speaker 200:32:43And if you look at the example that I shared in my prepared remarks, in that Financial Services Industry case, overall, the deal size, it's a large deal. We call large deals are greater than $50,000,000 as much bigger than $50,000,000 The deal size pre Gen AI or post Gen AI is much bigger in TCD. Speaker 300:33:10I would just quickly add on. So I said in my remarks as well, our pipeline reached a record level in the Q2, right? So if you also think about the Gen AI contribution of that has more than doubled in the 6 months of this year versus the full year next year. So we are seeing a net increase in our quality pipeline, which does support the notion that BK alluded to as a TAM enhancer to it. And then if you extrapolate upon that as BK alluded to with outcome based deals and looking at the margin on that being higher, we feel very positive about it as a net TAM enhancer and a net revenue enhancer to our business on our franchise. Speaker 800:33:52That's helpful. But on margins then, I would be curious, does this potentially create a nice tailwind for you and maybe helps you close the gap versus your peers that Ron had slightly higher adjusted EBIT margins. I think the general margin level has been high teens, low 20s. I think you have some more headroom to get there. Is this potentially a longer term tailwind to close that gap? Speaker 300:34:182 things. So potentially yes, Brent. But keep in mind as well that our adjusted operating income margin, right, continues to remain stable as we've taken fluid through the operating leverage that we have in our business and have made substantial investments into our franchise on a go forward basis. The things BK alluded to earlier, including enhanced training, investments in partnerships and all of these things, we think are a pivotal part to our company to generate long term sustainable growth. So we'll be doing that at least for the foreseeable future this year and that's reflected in our numbers. Speaker 800:34:57Great. Thank you for all that color. Congrats on the quarter. Speaker 300:35:00Thank you. Operator00:35:03Our next question comes from Surinder Thind with Jefferies. Your line is open. Speaker 900:35:10Thank you. I'd like to start with a question about the partnerships. It's quite surprising that your partnership revenue sourcing is quite low. Can you help us understand why the strategy was what it was, given that the difference between your peers is so significant and how quickly do you think you can ultimately close that gap to get to where maybe where your peers are? Speaker 200:35:38Yes. So we are moving ahead rapidly and therefore investing rapidly, Surinder. And given we were running many initiatives, as I also alluded to earlier in the commentary, it was generating results not fast enough. And that is what is changing. And we are very, very pleased with the investments we have made. Speaker 200:36:05And given we had made many of these connections with various hyperscalers or other iconic partners. We have been in relationship with them for X number of years, but not in a focused manner. And now they see us more. We have a pretty strong leader and a very strong team, possibly one of the best team in the industry that we have put up. And we are seeing early results and we certainly want to close this gap fast. Speaker 900:36:37Just any color on how quickly that gap can are we talking about like a 5 year journey or is it something shorter or just any color. Speaker 200:36:475 year is a very long time. Surinder, we are not thinking 5 year horizons. But clearly want to get to double digit fast. Speaker 300:36:59Yes. I would also bring on I would also just quickly bring on as well. I think we can all agree nobody has better insight into what we call keystroke level information and data that we have. As our clients and hyperscalers and other partners that we deal with continue to want to penetrate with their offerings, Nobody has a better domain level experience in our chosen verticals than we do. So net net, it's a win for Genpact. Speaker 300:37:26It's a win for our clients, right? And it's a win for our partners. So we're putting a lot of effort and money towards that and we think we'll see results in the not too distant future. Speaker 900:37:37That's helpful. And then in terms of just the innovation pipeline, I think you alluded to some ideas. You said there's more coming. Conceptually, are you pushing towards like building proprietary LLMs? Are you trying to build other pieces of software related to workflow? Speaker 900:37:57How should we think about what's coming down the pipeline at this point? Speaker 200:38:02I would say all of the above and more. As an example, if you think we are one of the largest players in finance. And within finance, we are developing various LLMs, including for, let's say, accounts payable and building many of what we are calling edge solutions internally, which are backed off by many of the LLMs. So a number of those innovation ideas are taking shape as we speak. Speaker 900:38:36Thank you. Speaker 200:38:38Thanks, Aveda. Operator00:38:40The next question comes from Brian Keane with Deutsche Bank. Your line is open. Speaker 600:38:49Hi, guys. Saw the results here. I wanted to ask about some of the Gen AI bookings. And I think you said 95% of those bookings are on the non FTE basis. I know you're really not generating much revenue yet from Gen AI, but how do those contracts price competitively versus the marketplace? Speaker 600:39:11And how do you know if on renewals and other deals, if you'll be generating the same types of revenue you're generating that was typically on an FTE basis? Speaker 200:39:22Yes. Brian, a number of these one, we have we report sole source as well. A number of these are sole source opportunities too. But even in a competitive environment, it is a lot of it is part of embedded solution that Gen AI is integral part of. And as we are moving and pushing the agenda more on non Feet basis, a lot of these solutions are therefore now with these technologies, which are a number of them are IP, a number of them are partner solutions. Speaker 200:40:06We are centered on what are the outcomes that they are achieving for our clients and how that cadence of outcome then also flows to us. And what we are seeing is early good results. Speaker 300:40:25P. K, I'll just quickly bridge upon that. Well, Gen AI is net new and a frothy level of discussion. AI is not new to us as well as other enhancements and productivity tools, right? It seems to be a big focus of it. Speaker 300:40:39We are not able or have not been able to generate the efficiencies and profitability for our clients and for ourselves without utilizing tools. So this will continue to evolve over time. It is a net new technology, but it's really an enhancement or an evolution of what we've done in terms of using technologies to drive outcomes. Speaker 600:41:02Got it. And then just a follow-up, maybe I can ask the guidance question a little bit differently. Since the growth rate was so strong in Q2, what would cause the growth rate to decelerate the way you guys guided to because it just seems like the momentum you have, especially with the partnerships, we're going to see similar growth rates, if not better, in the Q3 and not the deceleration? Speaker 300:41:28Yes, I think I'll start this one. I think it really first starts with a consistent business environment. Keep in mind about 2, excuse me, 3 quarters of our business is annuitized, so we have a very good view into that. The other 25% cohort of our business tends to be shorter duration deals that we have to earn and win throughout the year, right? So we're just not anticipating any real change in the macro business environment and we remain prudent in terms of our guide. Speaker 300:42:01In addition to it is, yes, we had strong growth in the first half of the year, particularly off of better execution, namely in a lot of those large deals, which in many cases will be lapping each other. So we'll continue to monitor the business environment. But again, we remain prudent in how we think about it for the next two quarters. Speaker 600:42:22Got it. Thanks guys. Speaker 300:42:25Thank you. Operator00:42:27The next question comes from Sean Kennedy with Mizuho. Your line is open. Speaker 1000:42:35Hi, good evening and congrats on the results. Speaker 1100:42:38So I was wondering Speaker 1000:42:39about the go to market approach on focusing on Data Tech AI and Gen AI solutions. So how does your team sell these solutions into your customer base? And did you change the sales incentives to help achieve these results? Speaker 200:42:54Yes, sales incentives changed, Sean, and we continue to iterate and improve on that as well as we go along. And typically what we have is offering hubs. So there are series of offerings that we have developed based on the client set and the needs and the competencies that we have. And these offerings are many of them are just Genpact offerings or also on the marketplace of our partners. And then depending upon active sales motion in all of the clients that we operate in, depending upon the needs, there is active activation of these offerings that happen in different client situations. Speaker 200:43:43And there is from a simplification standpoint, we've also set up certain rituals and rigor that is driving accountability and agility in the organization. Speaker 1000:43:56Got it. Thank you. Speaker 200:44:00Thanks, Sean. Operator00:44:02And our next question comes from Keith Bachman with BMO. Your line is open. Speaker 1100:44:10Hi, good afternoon, good evening. Guys, I wanted to ask first on how would you characterize pricing in the first half of calendar year 'twenty four versus the same time last year. One of your competitors, big competitors, just their pricing is much more across the PPO landscape. How would you say it? Speaker 300:44:32Yes. Thanks for that question. It's Mike. We've heard that before, right? So we've thought about it. Speaker 300:44:38We have had year over year and sequential I think we're alluding to in terms of pricing, particularly in our digital operations business, right? Keep in mind half of it is predominantly a sole source and half is not, has been relatively consistent. We haven't seen anything irrational that's really gone on in pricing. And so it's hard for us to comment on others. P. Speaker 300:45:02K, any views? Speaker 1100:45:03No. Speaker 200:45:05I think you're right. It's a reasonably competitive environment, but we haven't seen any irrational behavior in the marketplace. Okay. Speaker 1100:45:12Related to that, could you be willing to provide what, for your son, your business should face services related or customer facing? What percent of that is total now? Call center business would be a part of that, but I'm talking DX more broadly. How much do you have of service related business? Speaker 300:45:31Yes. So in the past, we've talked about that in terms of I think you're asking about customer service related business, that type of work. When you aggregate it up in the many in what we do for a lot of our customers in a lot of different flavors and you take that aggregate revenue, it's less than 10% of our business of our revenue, I should say. Speaker 500:45:53Yes. Last question for me then, Speaker 1100:45:54a quickie is, IBM and Accenture have said that, Gen AI, great growth for everybody in the industry, but it's not additive to customer demand in order to pursue these projects, it's coming out of it's sourced from some other area, if you will. It sounds like you guys have a different view of that, but I just wanted to try to clarify because Mike you clearly said you think it's additive to the pool, but I just wanted to make sure I heard that correctly. Speaker 300:46:24Yes, you're hearing that correctly. Again, it's hard for us to comment on other companies in terms of what their native mix of businesses. But we look clearly at our pipeline at our very defined definition of what generative AI is. We are seeing it as a net enhancer to our pipeline. So, when BK talks about, we view the TAM on this being a driver of our sustainable growth in the future as opposed to a trade off, we're just not seeing that. Speaker 1100:46:54Perfect. Okay. Many thanks guys. Cheers. Thank Operator00:47:00you, Keith. I show no further questions at this time. I would now like to turn the call back to the company for closing remarks. Speaker 200:47:21Thank you. Thank you, Michelle. Quarter 2 was another strong quarter for Genpact. As we look ahead, we will continue to drive improving execution leveraging our 3+1 framework and lean into innovation. We will innovate by leveraging GenAI and other advanced technologies to deliver superior value for clients and drive productivity for Genpact. Speaker 200:47:47I also want to take this opportunity to thank all of our clients for choosing Genpact and all the shareholders for ongoing support. We look forward to speaking with you again next quarter. Thank you.Read moreRemove AdsPowered by