NYSE:GRNT Granite Ridge Resources Q2 2024 Earnings Report $4.92 +0.04 (+0.82%) Closing price 04/25/2025 03:59 PM EasternExtended Trading$4.99 +0.07 (+1.32%) As of 04/25/2025 07:09 PM Eastern Extended trading is trading that happens on electronic markets outside of regular trading hours. This is a fair market value extended hours price provided by Polygon.io. Learn more. Earnings HistoryForecast Granite Ridge Resources EPS ResultsActual EPS$0.13Consensus EPS $0.14Beat/MissMissed by -$0.01One Year Ago EPS$0.19Granite Ridge Resources Revenue ResultsActual Revenue$90.65 millionExpected Revenue$96.97 millionBeat/MissMissed by -$6.32 millionYoY Revenue GrowthN/AGranite Ridge Resources Announcement DetailsQuarterQ2 2024Date8/8/2024TimeAfter Market ClosesConference Call DateFriday, August 9, 2024Conference Call Time11:00AM ETUpcoming EarningsGranite Ridge Resources' Q1 2025 earnings is scheduled for Thursday, May 8, 2025, with a conference call scheduled on Friday, May 9, 2025 at 11:00 AM ET. Check back for transcripts, audio, and key financial metrics as they become available.Conference Call ResourcesConference Call AudioConference Call TranscriptPress Release (8-K)Quarterly Report (10-Q)SEC FilingEarnings HistoryCompany ProfilePowered by Granite Ridge Resources Q2 2024 Earnings Call TranscriptProvided by QuartrAugust 9, 2024 ShareLink copied to clipboard.There are 8 speakers on the call. Operator00:00:00Thank you, operator, and good morning, everyone. We appreciate your interest in Granite Ridge Resources. We will begin our call with comments from Luke Brandenburg, our President and Chief Executive Officer, who will provide an overview of key matters for the Q2 and an outlook for 2024. We will then turn the call over to Tyler Farquharson, our Chief Financial Officer, who will review our financial results. Luke will then return to provide some closing comments before we open the call up for questions. Operator00:00:29Today's conference call contains certain projections and other forward looking statements within the meaning of federal securities laws. These statements are subject to risks and uncertainties that may cause actual results to differ from those expressed or implied in these statements. We would ask that you also review the cautionary statement in our earnings release. Granite Ridge disclaims any intention or obligation to update or revise any forward looking statements whether as a result of new information, future events or otherwise. Accordingly, you should not place undue reliance on forward looking statements. Operator00:01:05These and other risks are described in yesterday's press release and our filings with the SEC. This conference call also includes references to certain non GAAP financial measures. Information reconciling non GAAP financial measures discussed to the most directly comparable GAAP financial measures is available in our earnings release that is posted on our website. Finally, as a reminder, this conference call is being recorded. A replay and transcript will be made available on our website following today's call. Operator00:01:37So with that, I'll turn the call over to Luke. Luke? Speaker 100:01:41Thank you, Wes. Good morning and thank you to everyone for joining. We've been busy over the last few months and I would like to begin by sharing my appreciation for our people here at Granite Ridge. It has been a bit of a deal frenzy as of late, which drives an increased workload across all functions in the organization. It has truly been a team effort as folks step in for one another to get the job done and provide space to spend time with families on summer vacation. Speaker 100:02:07I'm grateful to work with each and every one of you. Let's start by discussing the deal side. From April to July, we closed acquisitions representing 95 gross or 25.1 net locations for a total entry inclusive of expected future drilling carries of $48,000,000 In aggregate, we expect these locations to account for $215,000,000 of development capital, the vast majority of which we expect to occur over the next 2 years. These acquisitions were about 90% Permian weighted and at that about 75% fall into our controlled capital program including the addition of a new Midland Basin focused strategic partner. Speaking of our controlled capital program, we now have 5.5 net wells producing and 40.5 net locations including wells in process. Speaker 100:03:00For 2024, we expect controlled capital development CapEx will represent over 40% of our total development CapEx for the year. It is exciting to see this strategy materialize as we make concentrated investments in high conviction operated projects with compelling expected returns. One of the qualities we value in non op is the ability to adapt to whatever the market throws at you. A mentor of mine recently suggested that I look into legendary investor, Henry Singleton. Many of you may know the name well, but I was not familiar. Speaker 100:03:35I'm on my way down the rabbit hole now, but one quote stood out to me as we were comparing our current 2024 expectations to what we guided to back in March. Mr. Singleton shared, I know a lot of people have very strong and definite plans that they've worked out on all kinds of things, but were subject to a tremendous number of outside influences and the vast majority of them cannot be predicted. So my idea is to stay flexible. What outside influences have changed our industry over the past 5 months? Speaker 100:04:09The easiest to identify is hydrocarbon prices. Comparing the full year 2024 consensus pricing when we provided initial guidance in March versus full year 2024 consensus pricing now, gas is down about 22% and oil is down about 2%. So what does that mean for Granite Ridge? We can shift our capital allocation to the most economically advantaged projects to drive long term value for shareholders. As a non op, how do we do that? Speaker 100:04:40In our traditional non op business, we make it a point to partner with like minded operators that maintain conservative leverage profiles, which enables them to maintain a focus on shareholder value. In challenging gas environments such as this, we see our operating partners taking steps including deferring or ducking gas wells in the Haynesville and dry gas Eagle Ford and restricting production to maximize long term value. While we continue to see deal flow in these areas, we've largely not engaged on projects with near term gas development as they do not currently compete for capital. Further, in our controlled capital business, we've allocated additional capital to oil weighted projects as we continue to capture opportunities that meet or exceed our target returns. We are not changing production guidance at this time, but I will say that while there are still 5 months left in the year, I can see a scenario where oil production beats current guidance and gas comes in low, both of which are prudent as we adapt to the current hydrocarbon price environment. Speaker 100:05:45With gas to oil equivalent at 6:one despite trading at closer to 30:one, this could push us towards the low end of the barrel equivalent production guidance. We anticipate that our oil production will continue to rise over the next two quarters, particularly in the Q3 where we may see a 10% quarter over quarter increase. On the gas side, we expect a 5% to 10% decrease over each of the next two quarters. Looking at wells turned to sales, we are not changing our guidance range at this time, but we do expect to have a good number of wells in process towards the end of the year that may come online in late 2024 or early 2025 that will not contribute much to 2024 production. More near term, we expect about 4 net wells to turn to sales in the Q3. Speaker 100:06:35On the CapEx side, we are taking inventory acquisitions guidance up from $35,000,000 to $60,000,000 based on identified opportunities that either closed or are expected to close post June 30. Additionally, we are raising development CapEx guidance by $60,000,000 at the midpoint for a total CapEx range of $355,000,000 to $365,000,000 About half of this $60,000,000 increase is driven by a shuffling in our controlled capital drilling schedule and the other half is development tied to the acquisition CapEx increase. We do not anticipate a 2024 production impact from the $60,000,000 increase in development CapEx, but we are excited about how it will position us going into 2025. Looking at remaining CapEx allocation over the next couple of quarters, we expect the vast majority of identified acquisitions to close in the 3rd quarter and the development CapEx will be split roughly forty-sixty across the 3rd and 4th quarters. With that, I will turn it over to Tyler to discuss our results for the quarter. Speaker 200:07:41Thanks, Luke, and good morning, everyone. Average daily total production for the quarter was 23,100 BOE per day, up 7% compared to the prior year quarter. Oil production as a percentage of total production increased to 47% for the 2nd quarter. Our oil mix should continue to drift higher throughout the remainder of the year as some of our natural gas focused operators continue to defer development projects. As a result, we are increasing our 2024 oil production mix guidance to 48% for the year and look to exit 2024 around 50 percent. Speaker 200:08:17While we expect our total production to remain relatively flat, we anticipate our oil production to increase by 10% headed into the 3rd quarter. Our annual production guidance range of 23,250 to 25,250 BOE per day remains unchanged. However, we now expect more oil production for the year than originally guided. Our adjusted EBITDA was $68,300,000 and adjusted EPS was $0.13 per diluted share for the 2nd quarter. Adjusted EBITDA was flat from the prior year due to lower natural gas prices and the impact of divested assets offset by our increase in production from the prior year period. Speaker 200:09:00Per unit lease operating costs were $6.50 per BOE and production and ad valorem taxes were 7.6 percent of sales for this year's quarter, both of which were within our guidance range for the full year of 2024. G and A expense excluding non cash stock based compensation was $2.87 per BOE for the quarter. Our annual guidance range of $23,000,000 to $26,000,000 is unchanged. During the quarter, our operating partners completed and placed a total of 62 gross or 9.1 net wells with nearly all the activity occurring in the Permian Basin. At quarter end, we had an additional 9.6 net wells in process and expect about 4 of those to be placed on production during the Q3. Speaker 200:09:49In total, we continue to expect 22 to 24 net wells to be placed online during 2024 with nearly 80% of those wells being in the Permian Basin. During the Q2, we closed multiple transactions that added 16.4 net future drilling locations, primarily in the Permian Basin. Total acquisition cost, including $6,000,000 of expected future drilling carries was $22,000,000 In addition, subsequent to quarter end, we closed or in the process of closing additional transactions acquiring 8.7 net future drilling locations. Total acquisition costs, including $3,000,000 of expected future drilling carries is estimated to be $25,000,000 As a result, we are increasing our 2024 acquisition capital guidance to $60,000,000 to reflect our recent success on this front. Development capital spending during the Q2 was in line at $67,000,000 We are also raising our 20 24 development CapEx 20 4 development CapEx guide by $60,000,000 at the midpoint. Speaker 200:10:57As Luke outlined, about half of this increase results from new development on our recently acquired properties, with the balance being driven by a swap to a higher working interest unit in our controlled capital drilling schedule. While we do not anticipate a 2024 production impact from this increase, we're very excited about how it positions us for growth headed into 2025. Finally, we also continued our ongoing quarterly cash dividend program. During the Q2, we paid an $0.11 per share quarterly cash dividend. Subsequent to quarter end, our Board declared an $0.11 per share quarterly cash dividend payable on September 13, 2024 to shareholders of record as of August 30, 2024. Speaker 200:11:43On an annualized basis, this represents a 7.3% dividend yield measured against Wednesday's closing price. I will now hand it back to Luke for his closing comments. Luke? Speaker 100:11:55I have concluded each quarter by stating that I believe Granite Ridge is undervalued. By making that statement, I am inherently saying that I believe the street is missing something. There are 3 primary ways to win with Granite Ridge. 1st, an over 7% dividend underpinned by conservative leverage and hedged cash flow. 2nd, the value that is unlocked from increased trading volume as our shareholder base broadens. Speaker 100:12:223rd is the value of our business, which is what I believe The Street is missing, both strategically as we continue to allocate more capital to our higher return controlled capital model and from a capitalization standpoint. I have shared that we believe Granite Ridge can grow mid to high single digits annually out of cash flow. I've also shared that we started with an unlevered business and over the past 18 months have been drawing down a conservative amount of debt to invest in growth. If you look at analyst models, most suggest that we will continue to grow production at mid to high single digits annually. I do not believe the Street is giving us appropriate credit or arguably any credit for the impact this debt will have on our production growth in 2025 and beyond. Speaker 100:13:11While it is too early to share 2025 guidance, we are looking at double digit production growth year over year. Most of this debt has effectively funded our controlled capital program which has a longer lead time as we spent a year building out inventory and did not bring on our first pad until this June. Recognizing that we can only go from no debt to conservative debt once, what we have built at Granite Ridge is a powerful compounding machine that will continue to recycle the cash flows generated from this new production to grow the business in a prudent disciplined manner. Thank you to everyone for sharing your time with Granite Ridge. We especially thank the investors that have been kind to have a call or host us in their office and our partners on the banking side that have set up roadshows. Speaker 100:14:00We are still a nascent public company with a differentiated story and believe it is incumbent on us to earn the right to be heard. So as I tell Tyler, have investor deck, we'll travel. We have quite a conference schedule over the next several months as outlined in our earnings release. We would appreciate the opportunity to meet at a conference, to visit your office or to hop on a call to share the latest on the Granite Ridge story. Best wishes for the new school year and look forward to talking again in the fall. Speaker 100:14:29With that, let's turn it over to questions. Operator? Speaker 300:14:35Thank you. We will now begin the question and answer session. Your first question comes from the line of Phillips Johnston with Capital One. Your line is open. Speaker 400:15:16Hey, thanks for the time guys. Appreciate the color on the quarterly trajectory of oil production here in the back half of the year. It sounds like you're expecting, I think, Luke, you said 10% sequential increase in oil here in Q3 and that's despite only about 4 net pills in the quarter. And if there's potential to exceed your oil guide for the year, that would imply I guess a decent amount of growth from Q3 into Q4. Can you maybe just talk about some of the drivers in terms of the growth from your various regions? Speaker 400:15:46I assume a lot of that's coming out of the Permian, but just looking for some Speaker 500:15:50color on that maybe. Speaker 100:15:51Yes, you got it, Phillips. Thanks for the question. So the first thing I'd point to, we brought on our 1st controlled capital pad in early June. That was 5.5 net wells all in one pad in early June, clean up time a little bit. And so we anticipate that'll be a primary contributor to the oil increase from Q2, Q3. Speaker 100:16:11But really as Tyler mentioned, the vast majority of what we're seeing is coming out of Permian. So while you are getting a gas component, certainly oil weighted, we expect that getting that pretty decent increase in oil from 2nd to 3rd quarter. Anticipated it will still continue to increase throughout the rest of the year, but at a less aggressive clip because we're really planning on the end of the year with a lot of wells in process and hope to see the benefits of that early next year. Speaker 400:16:38Yes. I guess just on that note, I think you guys the $60,000,000 increase in the development budget, I think you guys did a really good job of explaining that and how that's mostly wells that won't be coming online until either very late this year or early next year. And I think Tyler mentioned that sort of sets you up in 2025 really well. Obviously, it's too early to sort of get into a discussion about next year. But I guess, would you expect that activity to sort of set you up for directional growth in like in Q1 of next year versus kind of your fairly strong Q4 exit rate here? Speaker 100:17:15Absolutely. Yes, we think that that will really set us up for growth in the Q1. We're anticipating double digit growth next year, which is quite a bit higher than we're looking at for this year, if you're looking at 23% to 24%. So absolutely we plan to go into 25% with the bank. We're really excited about what that could represent. Speaker 100:17:36A big piece of that too is the controlled capital allocation. I mentioned we're roughly about 40% of our development dollars this year will be controlled capital. But next year, I think that'll be about 50%. And a decent amount is wells in progress right now. And so those are going to be a bit chunkier. Speaker 100:17:54So that's the big piece of the driver I think that you'll see early next year is not only more wells, but chunkier wells. Sounds good. Thanks guys. Appreciate it. Thank you, Phillips. Speaker 300:18:12Our next question comes from the line of Michael Scialla with Stephens. Your line is open. Speaker 600:18:20Morning, everybody. Luke, just to follow-up on that last point, with the double digit growth next year, given the trajectory on the wells in progress, would you anticipate most of that growth comes in the first half of the year? Would it be, I guess, pretty significant double digit growth first half before moderating in the second half? Is that the way you're looking at it right now? Speaker 100:18:48That's a great question. I think there's a bit of a wait and see there. I think that you will have the largest quarter over quarter growth may be that 4th quarter to 1st quarter, just due to the number of wells in progress we're going to have at the end of the year. But I anticipate that it won't just be a bump and then a decline that we'll just continue to bring on wells throughout the course of the year. But yes, I think you'll see a real benefit to the widths that we're going to end the year with in the Q1. Speaker 600:19:18Okay, great. And the 8.7 locations that you acquired after the Q2, were those in the controlled capital partnerships? And if so, how much of that was in the new Midland partnership versus your Admiral partnership? Speaker 100:19:38Yes, good question. A good chunk of that was with our new Midland Basin partners. So probably, gosh, over half was that was an opportunity that they were able to capture and we were able to partner with them on. So I think if you're looking at capital allocation, most of it is in the control capital bucket. And again, the big chunk is on that Midland Basin side, which we're really fired up about. Speaker 600:20:03And can you give a little more color on what you're doing with the Midland Basin partnership or maybe where you're drawing, what you're planning to do there. And it looked like that particular 8.7 locations, you paid a little bit more for those, some driver there on why that was a bit more expensive on a per location basis versus what you've done prior? Speaker 100:20:28Yes. They're focused on the Northern Midland Basin and this is the team that was known for a long time that has a long track record of success up there. I'd say what they initially were able to pick up, it was all inventory, didn't have any production with it. But it's an area that they know very well that high conviction of. There's a component of this is really their first asset in their current vehicle. Speaker 100:20:52And so there was a bit of, hey, let's get this opportunity. We're going to pay a little bit more for that to acquire a foothold. And there's a lot of low hanging crude around that. So I anticipate that you wouldn't see this above average dollar per location continued, but they'll continue to work that down as they bolt on to their initial entry. Appreciate the color. Speaker 100:21:17Thank you. Yes, sir. Thanks for the questions. Speaker 300:21:22Next question comes from the line of John White with Roth Capital. Your line is open. Speaker 700:21:29Good morning and congratulations on a solid quarter. Speaker 100:21:34Good morning. Thank you, John. Speaker 700:21:37Yes. You had mentioned most of the capital this year and next year is going into your controlled capital business model. As far as new drilling opportunities going forward, how is it decided to source those through your traditional non op or through your controlled capital? Or is that based on an opportunistic basis? Speaker 100:22:04Yes, that's a great question. Ultimately, we view capital allocation as our primary job. That's really what we do as a business. And so our position has always been that every opportunity has to compete for capital. And a neat part about this, controlled capital program and these partnerships that we've developed, we're dramatically increasing the opportunity set available to us. Speaker 100:22:27And I think as a capital allocator, it's need to be in a spot where you have a very wide breadth of opportunities, but you need to be in a position and to take concentrated investment risk where you have high conviction. And so that's really the spot that we're in. So right now we're talking about, gosh, 50% or more of next year's development maybe in that controlled capital bucket. And that's based on inventory that we have in hand now. That could change. Speaker 100:22:59If we continue to find a more compelling opportunities on the traditional non op side, maybe some more capital allocation there. But really we're excited about what we're seeing. I don't think that'll be the case. I think that these guys will continue to pick up attractive opportunities and we'll continue to allocate capital there. Speaker 700:23:19Thanks for that detail. Appreciate it. I'll turn the call back. Speaker 100:23:23Excellent. Thanks, John. Have a good weekend. Speaker 300:23:27Our next question comes from the line of Noah Hanks with Bank of America. Your line is open. Speaker 500:23:35Good morning, guys. I just wanted to ask here about the DUCs and or the deferred DUCs and then the wells that might be choked back, how much net production is there? I'm just trying to quantify how much production net production could be added with minimal CapEx if we do an increase in commodity prices? Speaker 100:23:55Goodness. So you're thinking about on the gas side. It's really if I had to guess on wells that have been either deferred or duct. We've got probably half a well or so that's just been deferred if we think about what we were looking at the beginning of the year to the end of the year. And then we probably have, I'd say at least a well and a half or two net that are ducked across several operators. Speaker 100:24:22Those docks are generally in the Haynesville. So gosh, thinking about the production impact of that, a couple of net wells, Haynesville pretty high rate early on, Real dollars associated with that though. The completion side in the Haynesville is certainly an expensive hobby. Speaker 400:24:41So what would Speaker 100:24:41you say Tyler, maybe if I was looking at an average well cost, it's going to be maybe 60%, 66 percent of that. And you've got the ability to bring on, yes, you've got the ability to bring on at least a couple, 2.5 maybe net wells in total. So I wouldn't say it's a tremendous amount to be honest with you Noah, but I think it could be impactful especially as you do see our gas production declining a bit quarter over quarter as we've allocated less capital there. Speaker 500:25:11Okay. That's really helpful. And then I just wanted to touch on LOE. Your guys' LOE was at the bottom end of your guidance. Could you kind of talk about what drove that lower and then how sticky that lower LOE is? Speaker 200:25:26Yes, absolutely. So part of that actually ties to what we're just chatting about on the gas side. So with deferrals on the particularly in the Haynesville, We take some of that gas in kind. And so we're seeing pretty we're seeing quite a bit of decline on those assets. And as that those assets decline, our take in kind volumes are going down and there's a cost to move those take in kind volumes gathering charge. Speaker 200:25:57And for us that maps to LOE. So we're seeing that number go down more than expected this year when we originally put out guidance just because of those deferrals. The other component was less workover expense, particularly in Bakken. So we had less activity up there, but the primary driver was our gathering costs are going down on wells that we take in kind in the Haynesville. Speaker 400:26:26Sounds good guys. Thanks so much. Speaker 100:26:29Great. Thanks, Noah. Speaker 300:26:32And we do have our last question comes from the line of Jeff Robertson with Water Tower Research. Your line is open. Speaker 400:26:40Thank you. Luke, to clarify on the guidance, when you're talking potentially double digit production growth in 2025, are you talking BOEs or oil? Speaker 100:26:50Great question. So we're talking BOEs, although I anticipate that that will be oil weighted and that's really primary driver. We just haven't put a lot of capital into new dry gas projects as of late. And so at least given the current outlook for hydrocarbon prices, I would anticipate that we're talking BOEs, but oil will be the majority of the driver there. Speaker 400:27:13And if you end the year at around 50% waiting and with the projects you have teed up at least early into 2025, that would suggest a much higher than 10% year on year oil production growth, I think, wouldn't it? Speaker 100:27:31Yes. I'd say we're in the double digits, but we're not in a spot where we want to share exactly what we think that will be yet. But yes, I do hope that it exceeds 10%. Based on again, our current plans and the current pricing environment, we would hope that that would exceed 10%. Speaker 400:27:49Luke, on the controlled capital with that protection representing 40% of development capital in 2025, How do you think the controlled capital part of the business and growing that over the next several years impacts your visibility with respect to future production growth, future cash flows and therefore supporting the dividend and ultimately what investors would view as a maybe a more longevity in the cash flow profile of Granite Ridge? Speaker 100:28:21Well, I appreciate that question, Jeff, because it really hits a key component of why we want to pursue that strategy. In fact, I think year control capital will be over 50%, primarily driven by the addition of a second strategic partner there. We think that this will give us a lot more insight. It will give us a lot more ability both internally to predict what the world is going to look like over the next 12 to 18 months, but also externally we hope that we can get even better at our guiding. So we're a big fan of what this could represent for the business. Speaker 100:28:55To be totally transparent, there's a couple of things that we're going to have to work through. Just for example, the controlled capital is great because we really have the flexibility to move the rig schedule around to make sure that we're maximizing the NPV in any given project. But one driver is the $60,000,000 development capital increase for this year, right. Half of that was because we moved the schedule around. So we'll certainly have more predictability. Speaker 100:29:20I think that we'll be able to paint a better picture of what our inventory is to demonstrate that we can continue to defend that dividend and can continue to grow the business. It won't remove all of the lumpiness that's inherent in the model, at least at our scale. But I think it will continue to improve and we're just really excited about what that's going to look like, especially going into 2025. We really started this concept in early 2023, picked up rig at the end of 2023, first wells came online in June. And so we're really starting to get the wheels turning there. Speaker 100:29:53And I hope that as that continues to perform like we expect, we'll see that inflection point late this year to where next year it's really singing. Operator00:30:03Thank you. Speaker 300:30:12We have another question comes from the line of Michael Scialla with Stephens. Your line is open. Speaker 400:30:20Yes. I just wanted Speaker 600:30:20to follow-up. Luc, I thought your comments were interesting on natural gas. Being depressed, obviously wanting to wait the spending toward oil driven projects right now. Do you see from an acquisition standpoint any more opportunities to pick up non op interest in natural gas given the depressed prices or can you not really afford to sit and wait on locations that may not be drilled for a while? Speaker 100:30:52Well, it's a good question, Mike. I'd say it's less of not being able to afford to sit and wait. Well, maybe that is the driver, but there's just a pretty big gap between buyers sellers on the gas side right now. If you just look at what a seller wants you to embrace and I understand it, if I was in their shoes, I would do the same thing. We've really struggled to have a meeting of the minds there. Speaker 100:31:12Any gas deal that we've looked at, it's just it's hard. It's hard because even if you look out several years, you just have such a wide range and predictions of what gas price is going to be. And so I think there are opportunities there. There are probably people that will be successful in getting gas deals done. To be honest with you, we looked at several. Speaker 100:31:33We struggled. And so we're not allocating much time to evaluating dry gas fields right now just for that reason. You may be able to look at 100 and a couple you're able to get that are really good, but that hit rate is just so low. We've had better success on the oil side where we are really focused on near term development. Speaker 600:31:57Yes, that makes sense. I wanted to ask one more as you're thinking about scaling the controlled capital part of the business, you said it's going to be greater than 50% of next year's capital plan most likely versus I think 40% this year. As you look at scaling that business up versus your traditional non up, the non upside, you said you could double production or more without really adding much, if any, G and A. How does that compare with the controlled capital business? Speaker 100:32:28Yes, that's a great question. I would say it's pretty much the same, that it's actually in another way probably more accretive if you will, because we're spending more dollars with each of these teams. And these teams are again fully developed teams of 20 plus people across all disciplines. So there it's neat because on the traditional non op side, we're sourcing the deals and then doing full evaluation from scratch. On the controlled capital side, we're partnering with just very sophisticated folks that have been doing this a long time. Speaker 100:33:01They're capturing the opportunities and doing all the evaluation. And then we're also evaluating alongside them. But yet effectively have a broader team doing that evaluation. And so you can do it more quickly. And these are more capital intensive projects. Speaker 100:33:15And so, I think that's a point that I'm glad you made it. I probably should have because it's a big selling point for controlled capital is we can further decrease the overhead per barrel if you will, because we can spend less time on higher working interest projects, which is great. I appreciate that. Thanks, Luke. Thank you. Speaker 300:33:42Ladies and gentlemen, that concludes today's call. Thank you all for joining. You may now disconnect.Read morePowered by Conference Call Audio Live Call not available Earnings Conference CallGranite Ridge Resources Q2 202400:00 / 00:00Speed:1x1.25x1.5x2x Earnings DocumentsPress Release(8-K)Quarterly report(10-Q) Granite Ridge Resources Earnings HeadlinesIs Granite Ridge Resources, Inc. (GRNT) the Best Oil and Gas Penny Stock to Invest in Now?April 26 at 1:40 PM | msn.comGranite Ridge Resources: A Look At Its Guidance For 2025April 17, 2025 | seekingalpha.comFrom Social Security to Social Prosperity?In less than a decade, Social Security could be out of money. 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There are 8 speakers on the call. Operator00:00:00Thank you, operator, and good morning, everyone. We appreciate your interest in Granite Ridge Resources. We will begin our call with comments from Luke Brandenburg, our President and Chief Executive Officer, who will provide an overview of key matters for the Q2 and an outlook for 2024. We will then turn the call over to Tyler Farquharson, our Chief Financial Officer, who will review our financial results. Luke will then return to provide some closing comments before we open the call up for questions. Operator00:00:29Today's conference call contains certain projections and other forward looking statements within the meaning of federal securities laws. These statements are subject to risks and uncertainties that may cause actual results to differ from those expressed or implied in these statements. We would ask that you also review the cautionary statement in our earnings release. Granite Ridge disclaims any intention or obligation to update or revise any forward looking statements whether as a result of new information, future events or otherwise. Accordingly, you should not place undue reliance on forward looking statements. Operator00:01:05These and other risks are described in yesterday's press release and our filings with the SEC. This conference call also includes references to certain non GAAP financial measures. Information reconciling non GAAP financial measures discussed to the most directly comparable GAAP financial measures is available in our earnings release that is posted on our website. Finally, as a reminder, this conference call is being recorded. A replay and transcript will be made available on our website following today's call. Operator00:01:37So with that, I'll turn the call over to Luke. Luke? Speaker 100:01:41Thank you, Wes. Good morning and thank you to everyone for joining. We've been busy over the last few months and I would like to begin by sharing my appreciation for our people here at Granite Ridge. It has been a bit of a deal frenzy as of late, which drives an increased workload across all functions in the organization. It has truly been a team effort as folks step in for one another to get the job done and provide space to spend time with families on summer vacation. Speaker 100:02:07I'm grateful to work with each and every one of you. Let's start by discussing the deal side. From April to July, we closed acquisitions representing 95 gross or 25.1 net locations for a total entry inclusive of expected future drilling carries of $48,000,000 In aggregate, we expect these locations to account for $215,000,000 of development capital, the vast majority of which we expect to occur over the next 2 years. These acquisitions were about 90% Permian weighted and at that about 75% fall into our controlled capital program including the addition of a new Midland Basin focused strategic partner. Speaking of our controlled capital program, we now have 5.5 net wells producing and 40.5 net locations including wells in process. Speaker 100:03:00For 2024, we expect controlled capital development CapEx will represent over 40% of our total development CapEx for the year. It is exciting to see this strategy materialize as we make concentrated investments in high conviction operated projects with compelling expected returns. One of the qualities we value in non op is the ability to adapt to whatever the market throws at you. A mentor of mine recently suggested that I look into legendary investor, Henry Singleton. Many of you may know the name well, but I was not familiar. Speaker 100:03:35I'm on my way down the rabbit hole now, but one quote stood out to me as we were comparing our current 2024 expectations to what we guided to back in March. Mr. Singleton shared, I know a lot of people have very strong and definite plans that they've worked out on all kinds of things, but were subject to a tremendous number of outside influences and the vast majority of them cannot be predicted. So my idea is to stay flexible. What outside influences have changed our industry over the past 5 months? Speaker 100:04:09The easiest to identify is hydrocarbon prices. Comparing the full year 2024 consensus pricing when we provided initial guidance in March versus full year 2024 consensus pricing now, gas is down about 22% and oil is down about 2%. So what does that mean for Granite Ridge? We can shift our capital allocation to the most economically advantaged projects to drive long term value for shareholders. As a non op, how do we do that? Speaker 100:04:40In our traditional non op business, we make it a point to partner with like minded operators that maintain conservative leverage profiles, which enables them to maintain a focus on shareholder value. In challenging gas environments such as this, we see our operating partners taking steps including deferring or ducking gas wells in the Haynesville and dry gas Eagle Ford and restricting production to maximize long term value. While we continue to see deal flow in these areas, we've largely not engaged on projects with near term gas development as they do not currently compete for capital. Further, in our controlled capital business, we've allocated additional capital to oil weighted projects as we continue to capture opportunities that meet or exceed our target returns. We are not changing production guidance at this time, but I will say that while there are still 5 months left in the year, I can see a scenario where oil production beats current guidance and gas comes in low, both of which are prudent as we adapt to the current hydrocarbon price environment. Speaker 100:05:45With gas to oil equivalent at 6:one despite trading at closer to 30:one, this could push us towards the low end of the barrel equivalent production guidance. We anticipate that our oil production will continue to rise over the next two quarters, particularly in the Q3 where we may see a 10% quarter over quarter increase. On the gas side, we expect a 5% to 10% decrease over each of the next two quarters. Looking at wells turned to sales, we are not changing our guidance range at this time, but we do expect to have a good number of wells in process towards the end of the year that may come online in late 2024 or early 2025 that will not contribute much to 2024 production. More near term, we expect about 4 net wells to turn to sales in the Q3. Speaker 100:06:35On the CapEx side, we are taking inventory acquisitions guidance up from $35,000,000 to $60,000,000 based on identified opportunities that either closed or are expected to close post June 30. Additionally, we are raising development CapEx guidance by $60,000,000 at the midpoint for a total CapEx range of $355,000,000 to $365,000,000 About half of this $60,000,000 increase is driven by a shuffling in our controlled capital drilling schedule and the other half is development tied to the acquisition CapEx increase. We do not anticipate a 2024 production impact from the $60,000,000 increase in development CapEx, but we are excited about how it will position us going into 2025. Looking at remaining CapEx allocation over the next couple of quarters, we expect the vast majority of identified acquisitions to close in the 3rd quarter and the development CapEx will be split roughly forty-sixty across the 3rd and 4th quarters. With that, I will turn it over to Tyler to discuss our results for the quarter. Speaker 200:07:41Thanks, Luke, and good morning, everyone. Average daily total production for the quarter was 23,100 BOE per day, up 7% compared to the prior year quarter. Oil production as a percentage of total production increased to 47% for the 2nd quarter. Our oil mix should continue to drift higher throughout the remainder of the year as some of our natural gas focused operators continue to defer development projects. As a result, we are increasing our 2024 oil production mix guidance to 48% for the year and look to exit 2024 around 50 percent. Speaker 200:08:17While we expect our total production to remain relatively flat, we anticipate our oil production to increase by 10% headed into the 3rd quarter. Our annual production guidance range of 23,250 to 25,250 BOE per day remains unchanged. However, we now expect more oil production for the year than originally guided. Our adjusted EBITDA was $68,300,000 and adjusted EPS was $0.13 per diluted share for the 2nd quarter. Adjusted EBITDA was flat from the prior year due to lower natural gas prices and the impact of divested assets offset by our increase in production from the prior year period. Speaker 200:09:00Per unit lease operating costs were $6.50 per BOE and production and ad valorem taxes were 7.6 percent of sales for this year's quarter, both of which were within our guidance range for the full year of 2024. G and A expense excluding non cash stock based compensation was $2.87 per BOE for the quarter. Our annual guidance range of $23,000,000 to $26,000,000 is unchanged. During the quarter, our operating partners completed and placed a total of 62 gross or 9.1 net wells with nearly all the activity occurring in the Permian Basin. At quarter end, we had an additional 9.6 net wells in process and expect about 4 of those to be placed on production during the Q3. Speaker 200:09:49In total, we continue to expect 22 to 24 net wells to be placed online during 2024 with nearly 80% of those wells being in the Permian Basin. During the Q2, we closed multiple transactions that added 16.4 net future drilling locations, primarily in the Permian Basin. Total acquisition cost, including $6,000,000 of expected future drilling carries was $22,000,000 In addition, subsequent to quarter end, we closed or in the process of closing additional transactions acquiring 8.7 net future drilling locations. Total acquisition costs, including $3,000,000 of expected future drilling carries is estimated to be $25,000,000 As a result, we are increasing our 2024 acquisition capital guidance to $60,000,000 to reflect our recent success on this front. Development capital spending during the Q2 was in line at $67,000,000 We are also raising our 20 24 development CapEx 20 4 development CapEx guide by $60,000,000 at the midpoint. Speaker 200:10:57As Luke outlined, about half of this increase results from new development on our recently acquired properties, with the balance being driven by a swap to a higher working interest unit in our controlled capital drilling schedule. While we do not anticipate a 2024 production impact from this increase, we're very excited about how it positions us for growth headed into 2025. Finally, we also continued our ongoing quarterly cash dividend program. During the Q2, we paid an $0.11 per share quarterly cash dividend. Subsequent to quarter end, our Board declared an $0.11 per share quarterly cash dividend payable on September 13, 2024 to shareholders of record as of August 30, 2024. Speaker 200:11:43On an annualized basis, this represents a 7.3% dividend yield measured against Wednesday's closing price. I will now hand it back to Luke for his closing comments. Luke? Speaker 100:11:55I have concluded each quarter by stating that I believe Granite Ridge is undervalued. By making that statement, I am inherently saying that I believe the street is missing something. There are 3 primary ways to win with Granite Ridge. 1st, an over 7% dividend underpinned by conservative leverage and hedged cash flow. 2nd, the value that is unlocked from increased trading volume as our shareholder base broadens. Speaker 100:12:223rd is the value of our business, which is what I believe The Street is missing, both strategically as we continue to allocate more capital to our higher return controlled capital model and from a capitalization standpoint. I have shared that we believe Granite Ridge can grow mid to high single digits annually out of cash flow. I've also shared that we started with an unlevered business and over the past 18 months have been drawing down a conservative amount of debt to invest in growth. If you look at analyst models, most suggest that we will continue to grow production at mid to high single digits annually. I do not believe the Street is giving us appropriate credit or arguably any credit for the impact this debt will have on our production growth in 2025 and beyond. Speaker 100:13:11While it is too early to share 2025 guidance, we are looking at double digit production growth year over year. Most of this debt has effectively funded our controlled capital program which has a longer lead time as we spent a year building out inventory and did not bring on our first pad until this June. Recognizing that we can only go from no debt to conservative debt once, what we have built at Granite Ridge is a powerful compounding machine that will continue to recycle the cash flows generated from this new production to grow the business in a prudent disciplined manner. Thank you to everyone for sharing your time with Granite Ridge. We especially thank the investors that have been kind to have a call or host us in their office and our partners on the banking side that have set up roadshows. Speaker 100:14:00We are still a nascent public company with a differentiated story and believe it is incumbent on us to earn the right to be heard. So as I tell Tyler, have investor deck, we'll travel. We have quite a conference schedule over the next several months as outlined in our earnings release. We would appreciate the opportunity to meet at a conference, to visit your office or to hop on a call to share the latest on the Granite Ridge story. Best wishes for the new school year and look forward to talking again in the fall. Speaker 100:14:29With that, let's turn it over to questions. Operator? Speaker 300:14:35Thank you. We will now begin the question and answer session. Your first question comes from the line of Phillips Johnston with Capital One. Your line is open. Speaker 400:15:16Hey, thanks for the time guys. Appreciate the color on the quarterly trajectory of oil production here in the back half of the year. It sounds like you're expecting, I think, Luke, you said 10% sequential increase in oil here in Q3 and that's despite only about 4 net pills in the quarter. And if there's potential to exceed your oil guide for the year, that would imply I guess a decent amount of growth from Q3 into Q4. Can you maybe just talk about some of the drivers in terms of the growth from your various regions? Speaker 400:15:46I assume a lot of that's coming out of the Permian, but just looking for some Speaker 500:15:50color on that maybe. Speaker 100:15:51Yes, you got it, Phillips. Thanks for the question. So the first thing I'd point to, we brought on our 1st controlled capital pad in early June. That was 5.5 net wells all in one pad in early June, clean up time a little bit. And so we anticipate that'll be a primary contributor to the oil increase from Q2, Q3. Speaker 100:16:11But really as Tyler mentioned, the vast majority of what we're seeing is coming out of Permian. So while you are getting a gas component, certainly oil weighted, we expect that getting that pretty decent increase in oil from 2nd to 3rd quarter. Anticipated it will still continue to increase throughout the rest of the year, but at a less aggressive clip because we're really planning on the end of the year with a lot of wells in process and hope to see the benefits of that early next year. Speaker 400:16:38Yes. I guess just on that note, I think you guys the $60,000,000 increase in the development budget, I think you guys did a really good job of explaining that and how that's mostly wells that won't be coming online until either very late this year or early next year. And I think Tyler mentioned that sort of sets you up in 2025 really well. Obviously, it's too early to sort of get into a discussion about next year. But I guess, would you expect that activity to sort of set you up for directional growth in like in Q1 of next year versus kind of your fairly strong Q4 exit rate here? Speaker 100:17:15Absolutely. Yes, we think that that will really set us up for growth in the Q1. We're anticipating double digit growth next year, which is quite a bit higher than we're looking at for this year, if you're looking at 23% to 24%. So absolutely we plan to go into 25% with the bank. We're really excited about what that could represent. Speaker 100:17:36A big piece of that too is the controlled capital allocation. I mentioned we're roughly about 40% of our development dollars this year will be controlled capital. But next year, I think that'll be about 50%. And a decent amount is wells in progress right now. And so those are going to be a bit chunkier. Speaker 100:17:54So that's the big piece of the driver I think that you'll see early next year is not only more wells, but chunkier wells. Sounds good. Thanks guys. Appreciate it. Thank you, Phillips. Speaker 300:18:12Our next question comes from the line of Michael Scialla with Stephens. Your line is open. Speaker 600:18:20Morning, everybody. Luke, just to follow-up on that last point, with the double digit growth next year, given the trajectory on the wells in progress, would you anticipate most of that growth comes in the first half of the year? Would it be, I guess, pretty significant double digit growth first half before moderating in the second half? Is that the way you're looking at it right now? Speaker 100:18:48That's a great question. I think there's a bit of a wait and see there. I think that you will have the largest quarter over quarter growth may be that 4th quarter to 1st quarter, just due to the number of wells in progress we're going to have at the end of the year. But I anticipate that it won't just be a bump and then a decline that we'll just continue to bring on wells throughout the course of the year. But yes, I think you'll see a real benefit to the widths that we're going to end the year with in the Q1. Speaker 600:19:18Okay, great. And the 8.7 locations that you acquired after the Q2, were those in the controlled capital partnerships? And if so, how much of that was in the new Midland partnership versus your Admiral partnership? Speaker 100:19:38Yes, good question. A good chunk of that was with our new Midland Basin partners. So probably, gosh, over half was that was an opportunity that they were able to capture and we were able to partner with them on. So I think if you're looking at capital allocation, most of it is in the control capital bucket. And again, the big chunk is on that Midland Basin side, which we're really fired up about. Speaker 600:20:03And can you give a little more color on what you're doing with the Midland Basin partnership or maybe where you're drawing, what you're planning to do there. And it looked like that particular 8.7 locations, you paid a little bit more for those, some driver there on why that was a bit more expensive on a per location basis versus what you've done prior? Speaker 100:20:28Yes. They're focused on the Northern Midland Basin and this is the team that was known for a long time that has a long track record of success up there. I'd say what they initially were able to pick up, it was all inventory, didn't have any production with it. But it's an area that they know very well that high conviction of. There's a component of this is really their first asset in their current vehicle. Speaker 100:20:52And so there was a bit of, hey, let's get this opportunity. We're going to pay a little bit more for that to acquire a foothold. And there's a lot of low hanging crude around that. So I anticipate that you wouldn't see this above average dollar per location continued, but they'll continue to work that down as they bolt on to their initial entry. Appreciate the color. Speaker 100:21:17Thank you. Yes, sir. Thanks for the questions. Speaker 300:21:22Next question comes from the line of John White with Roth Capital. Your line is open. Speaker 700:21:29Good morning and congratulations on a solid quarter. Speaker 100:21:34Good morning. Thank you, John. Speaker 700:21:37Yes. You had mentioned most of the capital this year and next year is going into your controlled capital business model. As far as new drilling opportunities going forward, how is it decided to source those through your traditional non op or through your controlled capital? Or is that based on an opportunistic basis? Speaker 100:22:04Yes, that's a great question. Ultimately, we view capital allocation as our primary job. That's really what we do as a business. And so our position has always been that every opportunity has to compete for capital. And a neat part about this, controlled capital program and these partnerships that we've developed, we're dramatically increasing the opportunity set available to us. Speaker 100:22:27And I think as a capital allocator, it's need to be in a spot where you have a very wide breadth of opportunities, but you need to be in a position and to take concentrated investment risk where you have high conviction. And so that's really the spot that we're in. So right now we're talking about, gosh, 50% or more of next year's development maybe in that controlled capital bucket. And that's based on inventory that we have in hand now. That could change. Speaker 100:22:59If we continue to find a more compelling opportunities on the traditional non op side, maybe some more capital allocation there. But really we're excited about what we're seeing. I don't think that'll be the case. I think that these guys will continue to pick up attractive opportunities and we'll continue to allocate capital there. Speaker 700:23:19Thanks for that detail. Appreciate it. I'll turn the call back. Speaker 100:23:23Excellent. Thanks, John. Have a good weekend. Speaker 300:23:27Our next question comes from the line of Noah Hanks with Bank of America. Your line is open. Speaker 500:23:35Good morning, guys. I just wanted to ask here about the DUCs and or the deferred DUCs and then the wells that might be choked back, how much net production is there? I'm just trying to quantify how much production net production could be added with minimal CapEx if we do an increase in commodity prices? Speaker 100:23:55Goodness. So you're thinking about on the gas side. It's really if I had to guess on wells that have been either deferred or duct. We've got probably half a well or so that's just been deferred if we think about what we were looking at the beginning of the year to the end of the year. And then we probably have, I'd say at least a well and a half or two net that are ducked across several operators. Speaker 100:24:22Those docks are generally in the Haynesville. So gosh, thinking about the production impact of that, a couple of net wells, Haynesville pretty high rate early on, Real dollars associated with that though. The completion side in the Haynesville is certainly an expensive hobby. Speaker 400:24:41So what would Speaker 100:24:41you say Tyler, maybe if I was looking at an average well cost, it's going to be maybe 60%, 66 percent of that. And you've got the ability to bring on, yes, you've got the ability to bring on at least a couple, 2.5 maybe net wells in total. So I wouldn't say it's a tremendous amount to be honest with you Noah, but I think it could be impactful especially as you do see our gas production declining a bit quarter over quarter as we've allocated less capital there. Speaker 500:25:11Okay. That's really helpful. And then I just wanted to touch on LOE. Your guys' LOE was at the bottom end of your guidance. Could you kind of talk about what drove that lower and then how sticky that lower LOE is? Speaker 200:25:26Yes, absolutely. So part of that actually ties to what we're just chatting about on the gas side. So with deferrals on the particularly in the Haynesville, We take some of that gas in kind. And so we're seeing pretty we're seeing quite a bit of decline on those assets. And as that those assets decline, our take in kind volumes are going down and there's a cost to move those take in kind volumes gathering charge. Speaker 200:25:57And for us that maps to LOE. So we're seeing that number go down more than expected this year when we originally put out guidance just because of those deferrals. The other component was less workover expense, particularly in Bakken. So we had less activity up there, but the primary driver was our gathering costs are going down on wells that we take in kind in the Haynesville. Speaker 400:26:26Sounds good guys. Thanks so much. Speaker 100:26:29Great. Thanks, Noah. Speaker 300:26:32And we do have our last question comes from the line of Jeff Robertson with Water Tower Research. Your line is open. Speaker 400:26:40Thank you. Luke, to clarify on the guidance, when you're talking potentially double digit production growth in 2025, are you talking BOEs or oil? Speaker 100:26:50Great question. So we're talking BOEs, although I anticipate that that will be oil weighted and that's really primary driver. We just haven't put a lot of capital into new dry gas projects as of late. And so at least given the current outlook for hydrocarbon prices, I would anticipate that we're talking BOEs, but oil will be the majority of the driver there. Speaker 400:27:13And if you end the year at around 50% waiting and with the projects you have teed up at least early into 2025, that would suggest a much higher than 10% year on year oil production growth, I think, wouldn't it? Speaker 100:27:31Yes. I'd say we're in the double digits, but we're not in a spot where we want to share exactly what we think that will be yet. But yes, I do hope that it exceeds 10%. Based on again, our current plans and the current pricing environment, we would hope that that would exceed 10%. Speaker 400:27:49Luke, on the controlled capital with that protection representing 40% of development capital in 2025, How do you think the controlled capital part of the business and growing that over the next several years impacts your visibility with respect to future production growth, future cash flows and therefore supporting the dividend and ultimately what investors would view as a maybe a more longevity in the cash flow profile of Granite Ridge? Speaker 100:28:21Well, I appreciate that question, Jeff, because it really hits a key component of why we want to pursue that strategy. In fact, I think year control capital will be over 50%, primarily driven by the addition of a second strategic partner there. We think that this will give us a lot more insight. It will give us a lot more ability both internally to predict what the world is going to look like over the next 12 to 18 months, but also externally we hope that we can get even better at our guiding. So we're a big fan of what this could represent for the business. Speaker 100:28:55To be totally transparent, there's a couple of things that we're going to have to work through. Just for example, the controlled capital is great because we really have the flexibility to move the rig schedule around to make sure that we're maximizing the NPV in any given project. But one driver is the $60,000,000 development capital increase for this year, right. Half of that was because we moved the schedule around. So we'll certainly have more predictability. Speaker 100:29:20I think that we'll be able to paint a better picture of what our inventory is to demonstrate that we can continue to defend that dividend and can continue to grow the business. It won't remove all of the lumpiness that's inherent in the model, at least at our scale. But I think it will continue to improve and we're just really excited about what that's going to look like, especially going into 2025. We really started this concept in early 2023, picked up rig at the end of 2023, first wells came online in June. And so we're really starting to get the wheels turning there. Speaker 100:29:53And I hope that as that continues to perform like we expect, we'll see that inflection point late this year to where next year it's really singing. Operator00:30:03Thank you. Speaker 300:30:12We have another question comes from the line of Michael Scialla with Stephens. Your line is open. Speaker 400:30:20Yes. I just wanted Speaker 600:30:20to follow-up. Luc, I thought your comments were interesting on natural gas. Being depressed, obviously wanting to wait the spending toward oil driven projects right now. Do you see from an acquisition standpoint any more opportunities to pick up non op interest in natural gas given the depressed prices or can you not really afford to sit and wait on locations that may not be drilled for a while? Speaker 100:30:52Well, it's a good question, Mike. I'd say it's less of not being able to afford to sit and wait. Well, maybe that is the driver, but there's just a pretty big gap between buyers sellers on the gas side right now. If you just look at what a seller wants you to embrace and I understand it, if I was in their shoes, I would do the same thing. We've really struggled to have a meeting of the minds there. Speaker 100:31:12Any gas deal that we've looked at, it's just it's hard. It's hard because even if you look out several years, you just have such a wide range and predictions of what gas price is going to be. And so I think there are opportunities there. There are probably people that will be successful in getting gas deals done. To be honest with you, we looked at several. Speaker 100:31:33We struggled. And so we're not allocating much time to evaluating dry gas fields right now just for that reason. You may be able to look at 100 and a couple you're able to get that are really good, but that hit rate is just so low. We've had better success on the oil side where we are really focused on near term development. Speaker 600:31:57Yes, that makes sense. I wanted to ask one more as you're thinking about scaling the controlled capital part of the business, you said it's going to be greater than 50% of next year's capital plan most likely versus I think 40% this year. As you look at scaling that business up versus your traditional non up, the non upside, you said you could double production or more without really adding much, if any, G and A. How does that compare with the controlled capital business? Speaker 100:32:28Yes, that's a great question. I would say it's pretty much the same, that it's actually in another way probably more accretive if you will, because we're spending more dollars with each of these teams. And these teams are again fully developed teams of 20 plus people across all disciplines. So there it's neat because on the traditional non op side, we're sourcing the deals and then doing full evaluation from scratch. On the controlled capital side, we're partnering with just very sophisticated folks that have been doing this a long time. Speaker 100:33:01They're capturing the opportunities and doing all the evaluation. And then we're also evaluating alongside them. But yet effectively have a broader team doing that evaluation. And so you can do it more quickly. And these are more capital intensive projects. Speaker 100:33:15And so, I think that's a point that I'm glad you made it. I probably should have because it's a big selling point for controlled capital is we can further decrease the overhead per barrel if you will, because we can spend less time on higher working interest projects, which is great. I appreciate that. Thanks, Luke. Thank you. Speaker 300:33:42Ladies and gentlemen, that concludes today's call. Thank you all for joining. You may now disconnect.Read morePowered by