Lifetime Brands Q2 2024 Earnings Call Transcript

There are 7 speakers on the call.

Operator

Good morning, ladies and gentlemen, and welcome to Lifetime Brands Second Quarter 2024 Earnings Conference Call. At this time, I would like to inform all participants that their lines will be in listen only mode. After the speakers' remarks, there will be a question and answer portion of the call. I would now like to introduce your host for today's conference, Carly King. Ms.

Operator

King, you may begin.

Speaker 1

Thank you. Good morning and thank you for joining Lifetime Brands' Q2 2024 Earnings Call. With us today from management are Rob Kaye, Chief Executive Officer and Larry Winoker, Chief Financial Officer. Before we begin the call, I'd like to remind you that our remarks this morning may contain forward looking statements that relate to the future performance of the company, and these statements are intended to qualify for the Safe Harbor protection from liability established by the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act. Any such statements are not guarantees of future performance and factors that could influence our results are highlighted in today's press release and other factors are contained in our filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission.

Speaker 1

Such statements are based upon information available to the company as of the date hereof and are subject to change for future development. Except as required by law, the company does not undertake any obligation to update such statements. Our remarks this morning and in today's press release also contain non GAAP financial measures within the meaning of Regulation G promulgated by the Securities and Exchange Commission. Included in such release is a reconciliation of these non GAAP financial measures with the comparable financial calculated in accordance with GAAP. With that introduction, I'd like to turn the call over to Rob Kaye.

Speaker 1

Please go ahead, Rob.

Speaker 2

Thank you. Good morning, everyone, and thank you for joining us today. Our second quarter results were in line with our expectations, even though macroeconomic pressures led to weakened demand across end markets. Despite these headwinds, we are pleased to report that we continue to execute on our plan for the full year and are making progress toward completing several strategic initiatives, which will bolster our full year performance. This includes increasing market share in a majority of our categories, delivering year over year e commerce growth in our core U.

Speaker 2

S. Market and expanding gross margins. Our ability to deliver solid performance despite challenges in our operating environment is a testament to the work we have done to strengthen our business model, and we are pleased to have delivered another quarter of outperformance in comparison to the market and our peers. In the Q2, we delivered $141,700,000 in net sales compared to $146,400,000 in the same period last year. Over the last 12 months, we have generated adjusted EBITDA of $56,600,000 The drag on net sales reflected a sluggish market in combination with overall seasonal timing impacts in the Q2 for our core U.

Speaker 2

S. Business. Despite weakened demand, we grew market share across majority of our categories on a year over year basis, a testament to the fact that our leading portfolio of brands continues to resonate with customers. The level of decline observed this quarter was in line with our expectations and the macroeconomic headwinds were largely baked into the guidance we provided last year for the full year. We believe that Lifetime's results will improve the back half of the year as we execute our operational plan and we continue to expect to deliver in line with our expectations for 2024.

Speaker 2

Turning to our International segment. In Europe, the impact of the UK's economic recession has persisted, which has prevented any meaningful recovery in demand. We continue to take action to offset the recessionary impacts, including implementing changes to our UK sales strategy to shift our legacy focus away from independent retailers and specialty cook shops and prioritizing larger national accounts. This pivot is already paying dividends as we were able to maintain relatively flat sales for the segment despite turbulent market conditions. We are also seeing the impact of the ongoing conflict in the Red Sea as rerouted shipments are taking longer to reach Europe.

Speaker 2

This has resulted in a need to increase safety stock and therefore an increased investment in additional inventory, which will help mitigate these impacts. In Asia Pacific, we continue to gain traction in terms of both listings and brands in Australia and New Zealand as a result of our change in go to market strategy. We are now in the second phase of this 2 step process where we would discontinue our partnership with our distributor in the region and move to building out our own infrastructure. Once complete, this will allow us to implement a fully direct APAC sales strategy. Turning now to some of our growth initiatives.

Speaker 2

We are pleased with the incredible success of our DALLE partner line of products, which was successfully launched in this second quarter and has performed above our and our customers' expectations. While last quarter we signaled that we did not expect to be able to begin shipping until the Q3, we were able to begin shipments in the Q2. While the majority shipments have not yet completed, initial sell through numbers have greatly exceeded expectations. We expect that this outperformance will continue through the rest of the year and translate to revenue impact in the 3rd and 4th quarters. We now believe shipments of Dolly to the dollar channel will exceed $10,000,000 in 2024.

Speaker 2

Building on the strong initial momentum, we are already in discussions with additional customers for 2025 shipment. In our foodservice business, though we experienced a slight slowdown in these end markets this quarter, we continue to gain market share and remain optimistic based on the continued new listings that we have won that will see meaningful growth this year and in 2025. Our e commerce business continues to be a major growth driver. This quarter, e commerce sales represented 18.9% of revenues compared to 18.1% in the same period last year. We once again had a very successful Amazon Prime Day with total company sales up 23% over the prior year.

Speaker 2

This compares favorably with the overall Amazon Prime Day sales growth of 11%. Turning now to our supply chain. While ocean freight costs have been increasing as a result of geopolitical conditions and due to vessel and container availability levels. We believe these levels have now stabilized and will remain fixed at the higher base for the foreseeable future. We are managing all input costs across the business and have been successful in decreasing product COGS in many areas.

Speaker 2

This has translated to margin expansion this quarter despite these ocean freight increases. In Mexico, our plastics manufacturing facility remains on schedule to reach full production capacity this year. We have taken a measured approach to ramping up this facility to ensure we achieve high quality output and build the appropriate product mix being produced in this facility. Additionally, we continue to drive forward on our efforts to have approximately 25% of our spend on goods being sourced outside of China and remain on track to meeting this target. We are focused on expanding our sourcing capability in additional geographies with a primary focus on Southeast Asia and expect to begin shipping out of new locations in the near term.

Speaker 2

Our manufacturing partners in the region are working with us to set up new factories outside of China in order to accommodate this expansion, and we are already in the process of transferring production of 1 of our largest SKUs, which represents nearly 10,000,000 unit sales a year to 1 such facility. I'd now like to provide some high level color around our balance sheet, which Larry will discuss in greater detail shortly. Typically, liquidity is most strained during the Q2 as a result of seasonal business trends. However, our continued focus on operating the business efficiently and using disciplined cash management has allowed us to maintain strong levels of liquidity. For example, we are paying close attention to challenges facing retailers in this environment and have placed certain customers on credit hold to limit our exposure.

Speaker 2

While a credit hold has a negative impact on near term sales, we believe this is operationally prudent. We are comfortable with our leverage ratio and pleased with our cash generation levels despite headwinds in the environment. We continue to view the market as favorable for acquisitions and have an active slate of M and A opportunities in our pipeline. We expect to continue to progress discussions regarding these potential opportunities in the coming months, and we'll keep the market updated of all strategic initiatives. I'd like to briefly touch on the noncash loss we recorded in the Q2 related to our equity investment in Grupo Vasconia, a housewares company in Mexico.

Speaker 2

In the Q2, the company discontinued the equity method of accounting for this investment, which resulted in a non cash loss of $14,200,000 to record the investment at its fair value. It is important to note that this does not negatively impact our cash flow and is consistent with our view that this stranded asset from an investment made in 2,007 is not strategic to our company. Let me expand further on our financial guidance for the full year of 2024. In our press release this morning, we revised our guidance for net loss as a result of the noncash loss related to the noncash write down of $14,200,000 on our Grupo Vasconia investment. Apart from this adjustment, we continue to expect results for the full year in line with our previously shared expectations for all other metrics.

Speaker 2

We are carefully monitoring the headwinds we saw over the last few months. And as we head into the next quarter, however, our reiterated outlook reflects our confidence in our ability to continue executing and delivering results driven by the strategic initiatives we have in place. As we look ahead to the remainder of the year, we believe we are well positioned to continue to grow market share and create value as demand rebounds. We have a strong foundation in place, thanks to the significant work completed over the last several years to increase the resiliency of our business model. We look forward to keeping you updated on our progress as we continue expanding our leading portfolio of brands, driving innovation and delivering operational excellence.

Speaker 2

With that, I'll now turn the call over to Larry.

Speaker 3

Thanks, Rob. As we reported this morning, the net loss for the Q2 of 2024 was $18,200,000 or $0.85 per diluted share as compared to $6,500,000 loss $0.31 per diluted share in the Q2 of 'twenty 3. The net loss for the current period included a non cash loss of $14,200,000 related to our investment in Cup of Asconia. Adjusted net loss was $600,000 for the Q2 of 2024 or $0.03 per diluted share as compared to $300,000 or $0.02 per diluted share in 2023. Income from operations was $1,200,000 in the Q2 of 2024 as compared to income of $4,400,000 in the 2023 period.

Speaker 3

Adjusted income from operations for the Q2 of 2024 was $5,600,000 compared to $8,400,000 in the 2023 period. And adjusted EBITDA for the trailing 12 month period ended June 30, 'twenty 4 was $56,600,000 Adjusted net loss, adjusted income from operations and adjusted EBITDA are non GAAP financial measures, which are reconciled to our GAAP financial measures in the earnings release. Following comments are for the Q2 of 20242023, unless stated otherwise. Consolidated sales declined by 3.2%. U.

Speaker 3

S. Segment sales decreased by 3.3 percent to $130,500,000 As Rob commented, macroeconomic pressures have led to weakened demand across end markets. Within this segment, the decrease occurred in the Kitchenware and Home Solutions categories. Kitchenware decline was from kitchen tools and measurement products. Home Solutions decline was due to lower hydration products and tailored bath measurement products.

Speaker 3

The segment's decrease was partially offset by sales for a new licensed product brand in the Kitchenware and Home Solution categories and an increase in the Tableware category from a new Warehouse club program. International segment sales were down by 2.6 percent or 0.2000000 dollars or $300,000 in constant U. S. Dollars to $11,200,000 As Rob commented, the impact of the UK's economic recession has persisted, which has prevented a meaningful recovery in demand. The decrease was due to lower replenishment orders for e commerce and brick and mortar customers, partially offset by higher sales in Asia.

Speaker 3

Consolidated gross margin increased to 38.5% from 38.2%. U. S. Segment gross margin increased to 38.7% from 38.3%. This improvement was due to favorable product mix.

Speaker 3

For international, gross margin, which decreased to 36.6% from 37.7%, was driven by higher mix of distributor sales to Australia. U. S. Segment distribution expenses as a percentage of goods shipped from its warehouses was 9.5% for 2024 versus 9.7% in 2023. Lower freight out expenses more than offset the impact of lower shipments.

Speaker 3

And despite inflationary pressures, continuous improvements in labor and other expense management and lower inventory levels mitigated the impact. International segment distribution expenses as a percentage of goods shipped from its warehouses was 25.1% for both 'twenty four and 'twenty three as higher occupancy costs were offset by favorable freight rates. Consolidated selling, general and administrative expenses increased by 6.7 percent to $38,300,000 U. S. Segment expenses increased by $2,000,000 to 29.4 $1,000,000 As a percentage of net sales, expenses increased to 22.5% from 20.3%.

Speaker 3

The increase was driven by inflationary factors, most of which related to employee costs, the largest component of SG and A. Other increases included expenses related to the start up of manufacturing operations in Mexico. This was partially offset by a decrease in the provision for doubtful accounts. International SG and A expenses decreased by $200,000 to 3,800,000 dollars And as a percentage of net sales, it decreased to 33.9% from 35.1%. The decrease was driven by lower advertising and commission expenses, partially offset by higher employee expenses.

Speaker 3

And unallocated corporate expenses increased by $600,000 to $5,100,000 due to high incentive compensation and professional fees. Our interest expense, excluding mark to market adjustment for swaps, decreased by $300,000 due to lower average borrowings, partially offset by higher interest rates on our variable rate debt. As Rob discussed with respect to Vasconia, due to a reorganization resolution by Vasconia under Mexico bankruptcy law, company which we have a 24.7 percent investment, we determined that we no longer had significant influence over our investment. This resulted in the discontinuance of the use of the equity method of accounting. Upon discontinuation, dollars 14,200,000 of related foreign currency translation losses previously reported in accumulated other comprehensive loss statement were reclassified to the investment balance and then written off.

Speaker 3

This write off was non cash and had no effect on our ongoing operations or business strategy. For income taxes in the current period, the effective income tax rate differs from the federal statutory rate primarily due to equity based awards where the book expense exceeded the tax deduction and foreign losses for which no benefit was recognized. The effective tax rate for the prior quarter differs from the federal statutory rate primarily due to state and local tax expense, the impact of non deductible expenses and foreign losses for which no tax benefit is recognized. Turning to our balance sheet, it continues to be quite strong. As of June 30, 2024, our liquidity was approximately $119,000,000 which included cash plus availability under our credit facility and receivable purchase agreement.

Speaker 3

Since year end 2023, we further delevered our balance sheet, reducing our net debt by $70,000,000 And as of June 30 this year, our net debt to adjusted EBITDA leverage ratio was 3.3 times. As provided in the release, we are reiterating our financial guidance for the full year 2024, except for the non cash loss of $14,200,000 related to the investment in Vasconia. The 2024 financial guidance is as follows: net sales of $690,000,000 to $730,000,000 adjusted income from operations of $49,000,000 to $54,000,000 adjusted net income of $15,000,000 to $70,000,000 and adjusted EBITDA of $57,500,000 to $62,500,000 This concludes our prepared comments. Operator, please open the line for questions.

Operator

Thank you. And your first

Speaker 4

Good morning, gentlemen, and thank you for taking the questions. So Robbie, you talked about the sluggish demand in the Q2, also seasonal timing of shipments. Just wondering if you guys could provide any more details as in regards to that, whether or not more of the sales decline was because of just market sluggishness or just help us out maybe just understand as far as how the quarter progressed?

Speaker 2

Yes. Good morning, Anthony. As we talked about in our remarks, we had saw a lot of this coming when we issued the full year guidance. So we directionally, we were not surprised. The end market demand was a little greater than we thought, offset by some new initiatives, particularly DALL E and success in growing our e commerce sales offset that.

Speaker 2

And our market shares, as we talked about, overall increased, which again offset the greater market direction. Aside from that and as we had expected, some timing, which particularly applies to club, which are sizable orders on a year over year basis will be second half, whereas we had more in the first half of the year last year in that channel and that accounts for the remainder of the decline in the Q2 that is on time.

Speaker 4

Okay, got it. Yes, that's very helpful. And in terms of Dolly Parton product, I mean, did I miss that did you guys say how much of that was in the Q2? Or was there anything material to call out?

Speaker 2

We didn't expect it to be that much, but we ended up shipping $4,000,000 in the Q2.

Speaker 4

Got you. Okay. So for the full year, I think you said you expect to exceed $10,000,000 for Dolly Parton products?

Speaker 2

Correct. Into the dollar channel, we may have some sales beyond the dollar channel that will hit 24. Not certain yet whether that will hit 24 and 25 based upon availability since it exceeded our expectations getting availability of product in time.

Speaker 4

Got you. Good. And then how would you characterize your own inventories and inventory at retail? 1 of your competitors last month came out with lower than expected results and they had some own internal issues, but they had talked about just seeing kind of a stretch consumer out there. So what are your thoughts there as far as inventory at retailers and retailers' willingness to replenish orders?

Speaker 4

What are your thoughts?

Speaker 2

Sure. Well, the first part of your question in terms of our own inventories, We've been very focused on the inventories for years now and our inventory levels are appropriate and we react very quickly with any changes in volumes as well as on whether it's SKU level or other basis such as with the outperformance of DALLE, we reacted very quickly to get in more inventory, right. So we think our inventory levels are appropriate and streamlined. In the U. K, we've needed to and Europe, our hub in the Netherlands, we've needed to increase those levels as a result of the fact that shipments are now coming around the Cape and not through the Canal and the Red Sea.

Speaker 2

And that adds a couple of weeks. So you need to offset that by carrying higher levels of inventory, not significant, but definitely higher levels. So we've increased there. In terms of the bulk of your question of at retail, in more challenging economic times, particularly the larger and the more sophisticated retailers, lower their investment and want more replenishment from their customers. A bigger player like us, it actually benefits our market position.

Speaker 2

But there has been definitely a shift, and we've seen that for quite some time. And that always gives a leading indicator of where we see the markets going. So there's definitely some pullback in levels at most of our customers. So they are linear on their inventory levels than they have been in better times.

Speaker 4

Got you. Okay. And then last question for me. So as we look to update our models for Q3 and Q4, is there anything that we should be aware of in terms of just timing of shipments other than what you already talked about? Or is there anything timing of costs that we should be aware of?

Speaker 2

No. I mean nothing that we haven't stated. The big cost increase besides overall inflation, I think the big cost increase has been ocean freight, which we haven't experienced, as we mentioned. It's stabilized. We don't expect it to change from where it is.

Speaker 2

So on a year over year basis, ocean freight is up, stabilized at a level less than our expectations, which is good. So we factored it all in, and we don't expect it to change much. And the big driving factor isn't geopolitical conditions. The big driving factor are the ocean carriers and them taking a lot of tonnage offline and therefore supply and demand, it created an increase in the cost that they were able to charge. We've offset that, particularly on a cost of goods sold basis by driving the cost of what we're paying for our goods.

Speaker 2

So there should be no change beyond our expectations and from a timing perspective. There is some upside if we can get more product for demand on Dolly, but basically everything is fine.

Speaker 4

Okay. Well, thank you very much and best of luck.

Speaker 2

Thank you, Anthony.

Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Linda Bolton Weiser with D. A. Davidson. Please go ahead.

Speaker 5

Yes. Hello. Hi. So I was just curious if you could give us an update on the Swell acquisition, sort of a state of the union on how that brand is doing since you acquired it?

Speaker 2

As we talked about at the time of the acquisition, the biggest known challenges centered around they stuffed overseas channels as well as e commerce and particularly Amazon. So we knew there'd be a lag. That's all run through and therefore, it's picked up as a result. The other thing that has been successful is and if you go on our websites and social media, you'll notice there's been a tremendous amount of new product introductions because we inherited no pipeline basically. So that's created newness, which is driving new opportunities, particularly in the e commerce channel where when you're just selling the same thing, there becomes a decline in your demand.

Speaker 2

But now that we've replenished the offering, we've seen both in swell.com, Amazon and other channels, a nice uptick. One thing we did not anticipate when we bought the business is that we were very interested and we find the promotional direct corporate channel that Svelte had to be very attractive, and we got a lot of talent with that. The talent has exceeded our expectations. But the relationships that they were selling through needed to be completely redone. That's why we took a charge last year.

Speaker 2

And that's this year, we're doing much better, and we've seen a tremendous increase, and that helped actually in the Q2 as we've solved the issues that we faced last year and did that in a manner that exceeded our expectations. So S'well is doing well. We need to with that division, the whole build and Swell division is 1 division. There has been with the tremendous growth of STANLEY, the category has done well, but besides STANLEY, most people have not. There's been a decline in share.

Speaker 2

So we've been winning back some share and that should benefit us on a go forward basis.

Speaker 5

Okay. And then we get the Nielsen data, the POS data, which covers just the U. S. And it doesn't include e commerce. So it's only tracked channels.

Speaker 5

So it only covers some of your sales. But nevertheless, it shows a really bad trend like really big year over year decline. So this would be at Walmart and Target, other channels. Is there any way you can explain to us why the declines in the Nielsen data look so much bigger than the decline in revenue you actually report?

Speaker 2

So again, it's what covered. We purchase a lot of data and it's all SIRCONA data, right? So NPD IRI. And that covers a lot of the universe. There is, to your point, less data overseas.

Speaker 2

We do have some, but not as much. So part of it is what's channeled. So like we had growth in the dollar channel. I'm not sure if that's captured in Nielsen, right, which explains part of what you're talking about. In Walmart and so if we look at the data that we purchase and we compare that on a 12 month versus 12 month basis this year versus last year, not every category, but by far the majority of our categories, we've increased share.

Speaker 2

In Walmart and Target, we've gained in a lot of areas, but we did, as talked about, we lost some share in the KitchenAid line with those retailers, which we saw an impact on a year over year basis in the Q2 alone, right, just those 3 months. And that might be skewing what you see versus what we have to shift.

Speaker 5

Okay. And then given, I guess, we're expecting around $6,000,000 of shipments of the Dolly Parton at least, maybe more in the second half. I would think more of that would come in the Q3 than in the Q4. So is it fair to say your sales growth and year over year change in Q3 will be maybe better than in Q4? Is that a right thing for me to assume?

Speaker 2

It's a good question. I don't have the answer. I can say that we will exceed the $10,000,000 right? So you can expect more than the $6,000,000 And we're not sure how that all falls in the 3rd quarter versus Q4 yet. We're still working on that based upon, again, timing of shipments and the like.

Speaker 2

Most of it is replenishment. So the majority of that comes through our warehouses, not direct import. So it's working with the customers and when and when it ships. So that's not necessarily the case.

Speaker 5

Okay. And then my last question has to do with when you talked about a little bit of a change in your marketing focus in Europe to go a little bit more for the larger retailer accounts instead of the smaller ones. I'm wondering if that changes the margin profile of the business good question. So just to

Speaker 2

Yes. No, good question. So just to explain, the core businesses that Lifetime had acquired, their core customers were independent stores and let's call it Cook Shops, particularly in the U. K. They're in big decline.

Speaker 2

So we've been shifting to the larger accounts like Dunelm and Next who are doing well. And the growth in those has been offsetting the general growth or decline in the home loans market in there. In general, the answer definitely is yes, that the margins that you're selling to those customers will be lower than you're getting in a cook shop. Though the caveat is the reason why we're not necessarily experiencing that and what you're seeing flowing through the numbers is we've cleaned up a lot of business and improved the gross margin in what we sell in terms of what we're selling product wise. So that's picking up and offsetting what you're seeing.

Speaker 2

Otherwise, if you were just substituting one for the other, you would have seen a bigger decline in margin. That makes sense, Linda?

Speaker 5

Yes. Yes. Thank you. Thanks very much and good luck with everything.

Speaker 2

Thank you.

Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Brian McNamara with Canrod Genuity. Please go ahead.

Speaker 6

Good morning, guys. Thanks for taking the questions.

Speaker 2

Thanks, Brian, for being here.

Speaker 6

So sales growth has proven a bit elusive over the last few years kind of post COVID and your H2 guide, I think, implies a +8% kind of run rate. What gives you confidence in that kind of hockey stick recovery particularly with $4,000,000 of dolipartum product maybe being pulled ahead as we haven't seen kind of growth like that since 2021?

Speaker 2

So two things that are driving that, I guess, three things. One is just seasonal timing on a year over year basis, right? So it's some of it is what shipped first half 'twenty three versus second half 'twenty three and the cadence of what's shipping this year. So that's driving some of the growth. Some of it is newness, such as Dolly, which is all incremental business.

Speaker 2

A little bit is we changed our a lot of what we were doing online, which we were doing fine in terms of our e commerce sales, and we've already seen tremendous outperformance and that is should continue, and we have a high degree of confidence in executing on that, which will drive that. And the other is just as we continue to roll out, while the markets that were particularly in Europe and the continent and the U. K, have we don't expect that to pick up. We've gained new listings in Leclaire, Carrefour, Lidl. In Australia, New Zealand, we used to through the way we went to market, we were basically selling only one brand to one customer.

Speaker 2

Now granted, in Australia, there's one major retailer, and that's what was being sold to them. They're very big. But now we're selling to many people. And to that one major retailer, we're selling many products and many brands. So that's all just rolling through and will drive incremental growth versus prior year.

Speaker 2

So we're not expecting a market pickup to drive things.

Speaker 6

Okay. What's your view on innovation in light of today's consumer expectations for products that kind of perpetually keeps increasing? Are you guys investing more in R and D to kind of propel sustainable growth?

Speaker 2

Without a doubt and actually one of the things that I didn't really talk about that is driving substantial growth and will this year based upon what we have in firm orders is we introduced for Farberware called Build A Board, and it's been unbelievably successful. It will be the single we expect it and we add up all the numbers as of the year, the single biggest launch that Lifetime has ever made. And it's all incremental product and incremental business obviously to existing customers. It's all U. S.

Speaker 2

We're going to look to expand that internationally, but at this point, it's all U. S.

Speaker 6

All right. And then just one more. International

Speaker 2

just continues to be kind

Speaker 6

of a tough slog there. I'm wondering if it still makes sense to be there despite your strong internal efforts to restructure the business. You've done you've made a lot of effort there. It's a $55,000,000 kind of annual run rate business despite these new listings that you're talking about. Does it require too much management focus just given size relative to the total business?

Speaker 2

No. Management focus is not the issue there. It is not training management resources. That is not the problem. We do recognize that we need to show progress there and take action accordingly based upon how it rolls out.

Operator

There are no further questions. I will now turn the call over to Mr. Rob Kaye for the closing remarks. Please go ahead.

Speaker 2

Thank you, Angela. Thank you, everyone, for listening to our call today and for participating in this and your interest in Lifetime Brands. We hope that we were able to answer your questions on the Q2 and for the full year, and we look forward to further discussions with everyone in the future. Have a good day.

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