Metallus Q2 2024 Earnings Report $11.44 -0.21 (-1.80%) As of 04/8/2025 03:59 PM Eastern This is a fair market value price provided by Polygon.io. Learn more. Earnings History Metallus EPS ResultsActual EPS$0.15Consensus EPS $0.39Beat/MissMissed by -$0.24One Year Ago EPS$0.60Metallus Revenue ResultsActual Revenue$294.70 millionExpected Revenue$320.37 millionBeat/MissMissed by -$25.67 millionYoY Revenue Growth-17.40%Metallus Announcement DetailsQuarterQ2 2024Date8/8/2024TimeAfter Market ClosesConference Call DateFriday, August 9, 2024Conference Call Time9:00AM ETUpcoming EarningsMetallus' Q1 2025 earnings is scheduled for Thursday, May 8, 2025, with a conference call scheduled on Friday, May 9, 2025 at 9:00 AM ET. Check back for transcripts, audio, and key financial metrics as they become available.Conference Call ResourcesConference Call AudioConference Call TranscriptSlide DeckPress Release (8-K)Quarterly Report (10-Q)Earnings HistoryMTUS ProfileSlide DeckFull Screen Slide DeckPowered by Metallus Q2 2024 Earnings Call TranscriptProvided by QuartrAugust 9, 2024 ShareLink copied to clipboard.There are 7 speakers on the call. Operator00:00:00Hello, and thank you for standing by. My name is Regina, and I will be your conference operator today. At this time, I would like to welcome everyone to the Metalis Inc. 2nd Quarter 2024 Earnings Conference Call. All lines have been placed on mute to prevent any background noise. Operator00:00:16After the speakers' remarks, there will be a question and answer session. I would now like to turn the conference over to Jennifer Beaman. Please go ahead. Speaker 100:00:32Good morning, and welcome to Metalis' Q2 2024 Conference Call. I'm Jennifer Beaman, Director of Communications and Investor Relations for Metallus. Joining me today is Mike Williams, President and Chief Executive Officer Chris Westbrooks, Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer and Kevin Rakitic, Executive Vice President and Chief Commercial Officer. You all should have received a copy of our press release, which was issued last night. During today's conference call, we may make forward looking statements as defined by the SEC. Speaker 100:01:09Our actual results may differ materially from those projected or implied due to a variety of factors, which we described in greater detail in yesterday's release. Please refer to our SEC filings, including our most recent Form 10 ks and Form 10 Q and the list of factors included in our earnings release, all of which are available on the Metalis website. Where non GAAP financial information is referenced, additional details and reconciliations to its GAAP equivalent are also included in the release. With that, I'd like to turn the call over to Mike. Mike? Speaker 200:01:47Good morning, everyone, and thank you for joining us. During the Q2, we focused on what we can control to mitigate the impact of challenged market conditions. Our shipments to the aerospace and defense end market remained strong and our automotive shipments were steady. Unfortunately, the sluggishness in the industrial and energy end markets seen in the Q1 extended into the Q2. This weakness is attributed to softening global economic conditions, elevated imports, customer and supply chain inventory positions as well as scrap price uncertainty. Speaker 200:02:32Despite some unfavorable end markets, we remain committed to managing what's in our control by aligning our production with demand, carefully managing our working capital and cost, while investing in our assets and employees for future growth. During the quarter, we maintained positive profitability and operating cash flow, a testament to our business model and disciplined financial management. I am confident that as market dynamics evolve, we are well positioned to take advantage of the demand recovery and anticipate improved profitability. At Metalis, safety is not just a priority, it's a core value. We believe that a safe workplace is a productive and successful one. Speaker 200:03:23We have established a comprehensive safety strategy and have set ambitious goals to ensure the well-being of our employees, contractors and guests. We have made considerable progress in executing our safety strategy, which involves enhancing our safety processes and systems as well as our physical environment, our cultural environment and our safety capabilities with a strong focus on serious injury and fatality prevention. In the second half of the year, we will continue executing our safety strategy with a focus on comprehensive pre job safety planning and inspections, maturing our serious injury and fatality prevention programs continuing to invest in our physical equipment and equipment guarding upgrades and targeted injury reduction strategies related to hand injuries and ergonomics. Our safety strategy is having a positive impact as we are observing positive indicators in our employee engagement, hazard identification and incident prevention. To date, we have allocated $4,500,000 towards safety initiatives. Speaker 200:04:42As a reminder, our projection for the total annual safety investment was approximately $7,000,000 Turning to our end markets, as I had mentioned earlier, demand in our industrial and energy markets remain weak. For example, we believe agricultural machinery investments are being delayed in the face of higher prices and interest rates. Industrial distribution inventory levels remain elevated due to lower end customer demand, short lead times and scrap price uncertainty. Lastly, rail and mining markets are expected to remain soft for the year. Looking at our automotive performance, we saw a sequential 2% increase in shipments. Speaker 200:05:32Although there have been and continue to be periodic disruptions in the automotive supply chain, demand has remained resilient. We are pleased to provide our automotive customers with high quality bar and tube products as well as manufactured components for internal combustion, hybrid and electric vehicles. The aerospace and defense market remained strong in the 2nd quarter, despite our initial expectation of a sequential decline due to the timing of customers' orders. That anticipated decline, however, has been delayed by 1 quarter, and we now expect 3rd quarter shipments in this end market to be lower than those in the 2nd quarter. Earlier, I mentioned the negative impact of imports on our business. Speaker 200:06:23To put this in perspective, SBQ imports constituted roughly 10% of the market from 2020 to mid-twenty 22. But this number rose to about 17% from the Q4 of 2023 through the first half of this year. Similarly, we continue to be pressured by an elevated level of tubing imports. Turning to our capital investments. We are making significant progress by investing in assets to drive growth as well as improved product quality, asset reliability, customer service and cost structure. Speaker 200:07:05Earlier this week, we marked a groundbreaking ceremony at our Faircrest steelmaking plant to celebrate the building of a bloom reheat furnace. The event was attended by numerous local state and federal officials, including Ohio's Lieutenant Governor, John Eustat. It was announced that we have been awarded $3,500,000 in grants from JobsOhio to support the planned expansion of our steelmaking facilities. These grants are intended to facilitate training, modernize equipment and enhance skills for deploying cutting edge steel milling technologies. The installation of a continuous bloom reheat furnace will help us meet growing demand for both existing and new customers. Speaker 200:07:56We are grateful for the support from the community, the state of Ohio and our federal government, which will enable us to enhance and optimize our assets, increase our capacity of high quality defense products and support key training initiatives focused on safety and technology through a workforce development grant. As a reminder, in February, we announced an agreement for up to $99,000,000 in funding from the United States Army to support our national defense efforts. As a reminder, we expect the Bloom reheat furnace to be operational in late 2025. During the quarter, we invested $14,000,000 in capital expenditures with further progress on the installation of an automated grinding line, in line saw technology and new camera inspection technologies. These initiatives are part of our broader strategy to achieve significant cost reductions, generate free cash flow and improve our profitability. Speaker 200:09:09While the current demand environment has some challenges, we remain confident in our strategic imperatives and our ability to navigate market volatility. We are committed to driving growth, enhancing profitability and delivering value to our shareholders. Now, I will turn the call over to Chris Westbrooks, who will provide more details on our financial performance. Speaker 300:09:36Thanks, Mike. Good morning and thank you for joining Metallus' Q2 of 2024 Earnings Call. Throughout the quarter, we continued to navigate challenging market conditions, demonstrating the resilience of our business model and the strength of our team. From a financial perspective, 2nd quarter net sales totaled $294,700,000 a sequential decrease of 8%. The decline in net sales was primarily due to lower shipments, unfavorable price mix and a 12% market driven decline in the average raw material surcharge revenue per ton as a result of lower scrap prices. Speaker 300:10:14Net income in the second quarter was $4,600,000 or $0.10 per diluted share. Comparatively, sequential first quarter net sales were $321,600,000 with net income of $24,000,000 or $0.52 per diluted share. Net sales in last year's Q2 were $356,600,000 with net income of $28,900,000 or $0.62 per diluted share. On an adjusted basis, net income in the Q2 of 2024 was $6,700,000 or $0.15 per diluted share. Comparatively, 1st quarter adjusted net income was $26,100,000 or $0.56 per diluted share. Speaker 300:10:58Adjusted net income in the Q2 of last year was $27,600,000 or $0.60 per diluted share. Adjusted EBITDA was $19,900,000 in the Q2 of 2024, a sequential decline primarily driven by the impact from lower we balance production with demand. Other drivers of the sequential decline in adjusted EBITDA were modestly lower shipments, a reduction in price mix and a market driven decrease in the raw material scrap surcharge environment. Turning now to the details of financial results in the Shipments were 150,100 tonnes in the quarter, a decrease of 5,100 tonnes or 3% compared with the Q1. In the industrial end market, shipments totaled 56,400 tonnes in the quarter, a sequential decrease of 4,400 tonnes or 7%. Speaker 300:11:53Industrial shipments remained soft with distribution customers resistant to stock inventory given short lead times, the current interest rate environment and uncertainty in scrap prices. Automotive shipments were 67,800 tonnes in the 2nd quarter, up 2% from the Q1 on steady customer demand. In aerospace and defense, or A and D for short, shipments totaled 16,400 tonnes in the quarter relatively in line with the Q1 as demand continued to remain strong. We expected a decline in A and D shipments from the 1st to second quarter based on customer order timing. However, that expected decline was pushed out 1 quarter and we're now anticipating 3rd quarter A and D shipments to be sequentially lower than the 2nd quarter. Speaker 300:12:41We expect A and D shipments to increase in the 4th quarter from the 3rd with continued strength into 2025. Compared to the prior year quarter, A and D shipments doubled in the Q2 of 2024. Shipments to energy customers remained soft at 9,500 tonnes in the quarter, a sequential decrease of 1900 tonnes. Turning now to manufacturing. As expected, alignment of production with demand drove unfavorable cost leverage during the quarter. Speaker 300:13:11In May, we took approximately 1 week of downtime to install new technology on our electric arc furnace to drive higher levels of asset reliability and safety performance. Additionally, in June, the melt shop was down approximately 1 week for electricity supplier infrastructure upgrades. As a result of these actions and the continued balancing of production with demand, the melt utilization rate was 53% in the 2nd quarter compared with 72% in the 1st quarter and 75% in the same quarter last year. That said, our manufacturing team is carefully managing variable costs given the lower levels of production. Now switching gears to pensions. Speaker 300:13:52In the Q2, the company made $5,900,000 of required contributions to the bargaining pension plan. Including previous required contributions from the Q1, as well as planned required contributions of $3,000,000 in the 3rd quarter and $5,000,000 in the 4th quarter, we expect a total of approximately $43,000,000 of required pension contributions this year. This forecasted level of required pension contributions is $2,000,000 lower than previous guidance. As it relates to the salary pension plan, during the Q2, we successfully completed the transfer of $121,000,000 of salary pension plan liabilities to a highly rated insurance company. As I mentioned last quarter, the salaried pension annuitization as well as a similar bargaining pension annuitization of 2 $6,000,000 in 2022 represent significant steps towards further strengthening our balance sheet and de risking our legacy pension plans. Speaker 300:14:52At the end of June, the company's remaining pension liabilities totaled approximately $550,000,000 a significant reduction from the $1,300,000,000 of total pension liabilities at the end of 2021. Moving on to cash flow and liquidity. During the Q2, operating cash flow was $8,300,000 driven by profitability and lower working capital, partially offset by required pension contributions. Capital expenditures totaled $14,100,000 in the 2nd quarter. We estimate full year CapEx to be approximately $55,000,000 a $5,000,000 reduction from the previous guidance. Speaker 300:15:31This 2024 CapEx guidance does not include government funded investments. As a reminder, in February, the company entered into an agreement with the U. S. Army for up to $99,750,000 in funding to support the Army's mission of ramping up munitions production. Specifically, the funding is expected to substantially pay for a new bloom reheat furnace at our Faircrest facility. Speaker 300:15:57As Mike mentioned, earlier this week, we broke ground on this new investment. We're targeting late 2025 to be operational. The new Bloom reheat furnace is expected to increase throughput of high quality bar based products and support approximately $60,000,000 of incremental defense product based sales annually. During the Q2, we received an initial payment of $10,000,000 from the government. In July, we received a payment of $20,000,000 Additional funding is expected to be provided as mutually agreed upon milestones are achieved throughout the project. Speaker 300:16:33Through the end of June, project spending has been minimal. We look forward to providing updates on the significant growth project in future quarters. Switching gears to shareholder return activities. Given progress on previous common share repurchase programs as summarized last quarter, the company's Board of Directors authorized an additional $100,000,000 common share repurchase program in May. During the Q2, the company repurchased 440,000 shares at a cost of $9,600,000 To date, in 2024 through the end of July, share repurchases totaled 836,000 at a cost of $17,900,000 In total, as of July 31, the company had $122,500,000 remaining under its authorized share repurchase program. Speaker 300:17:26We remain committed to exhausting this authorization as we progress forward as supported by the continued strength of our balance sheet and cash flow generation. At the end of the Q2, the company's cash and cash equivalents totaled $272,800,000 total liquidity was $512,100,000 We expect the strength of the company's balance sheet combined with expected through cycle profitability and positive operating cash flow to provide us the opportunity to continue to execute on our capital allocation strategy. This includes investing in profitable growth, maintaining a strong balance sheet and returning capital to shareholders through continued share repurchases. Turning now to the outlook. 3rd quarter shipments are expected to be lower than the 2nd quarter. Speaker 300:18:15From an end market perspective, automotive shipments are expected to remain relatively steady, while industrial and energy demand remains soft. While long term aerospace and defense demand is expected to remain strong, we anticipate a sequential decline in 3rd quarter A and D shipments based on customer order timing. Base price per ton is anticipated to remain relatively steady in the 3rd quarter, while product mix is expected to be less favorable than the 2nd quarter given lower A and D shipments. Operationally, annual shutdown maintenance is planned for the second half of the year at a total cost of approximately $13,000,000 split relatively evenly between the 3rd 4th quarters. Additionally, the 3rd quarter melt utilization rate is expected to sequentially increase while the company continues to balance production with demand. Speaker 300:19:07With lead times currently in the late 3rd to early 4th quarter and melt shop shutdown maintenance planned for October, much of the Q3 melt production will support 4th quarter shipments. Given these elements, the company anticipates Q3 adjusted EBITDA to be lower than the 2nd quarter. To wrap up, thanks to our employees for their daily collaboration, while focusing on finishing each and every day incidents and injury free. We remain committed to controlling what we can control in a challenging market environment, while investing in the future and returning capital to shareholders. The hard work of our team to deliver on our strategic imperatives has positioned us well to capitalize as demand recovers and expect to realize significant improvement in future profitability. Speaker 300:19:54Thanks for your interest in Metallus. We would now like to open the call for questions. Operator00:20:06Our first question will come from the line of John Franzreb with Sidoti. Please go ahead. Speaker 400:20:11Good morning, everyone, and thanks for taking the questions. I'd like to just talk about the Q2. When you look back, what were the biggest surprises in the puts and takes on both a revenue and a cost basis relative to what you were thinking, say, 3 months ago? Speaker 200:20:30Good morning, John. I think probably one of the biggest surprise for us on the revenue side was the lack of demand, particularly from the spot market. As you recall, we went into 2024 with around a 60%, 65% contractual mix and the remainder spot. Our view is the fact that the high interest rates, the economic uncertainty are weighing on people and they're just not buying at the levels, not only in the order quantities, but buying in total much less and really operating at a hand and mouth perspective. So from a volume standpoint, that was a large influence in Q2 compared to what our expectation was going into Q2. Speaker 200:21:21Secondly, it's really the mix of customers that affected base pricing, where those spot customers tend to pay a higher per ton base price versus our contractual customers and the lack of that demand from those spot customers influences our ASP, our average selling price. I would say from a revenue standpoint, those two things. Additionally, the fact that our electrical supplier came in and wanted to upgrade their distribution facility that feeds our Faircrest Steel plant. And based on the order demand pattern, we agreed to go ahead and allow them to make all the upgrades to reduce voltage loss, increase reliability for our long term benefit. So that took a week of operations and it heavily influenced our leverage fixed cost leverage. Speaker 200:22:24Mike, if I could add one thing. Sure. Speaker 300:22:25On the automotive space, we did have a couple of customers that experienced downtime during the quarter. So that was unplanned on their part and that impacted it was about 5,000 tons that we expected to ship in Q2. And now they're back and operating again, but that uncertainty created some disruption. Speaker 400:22:44Okay. So the electrical upgrade was an unplanned downtime in the quarter and the auto downtime, is that expected to be recaptured in the 3rd quarter? Can you just walk me through those 2 puts and takes? Speaker 200:23:01Well, actually, yes, the customers that were affected with their unplanned downtime that will recover in the Q3. But unfortunately, we've been informed by at least 2 large OEMs that they are one of them is trying to optimize their supply chain inventory. So that will reduce demand from that OEM. And the other one has other issues where they where we were informed that their plant is going down or an unspecified period of time to correct a number of issues. So that will affect us in Q3. Speaker 200:23:37Combine that with the lack of our expectation is a number of our large defense customers, we've said we thought it was going to happen in Q2, but now we believe it's going to happen in Q3 that they had ramped up for commissioning new equipment with advanced orders. They have all the supply they need. So we don't expect those orders to repeat until they get all that equipment commissioned later this year. Speaker 400:24:10Okay. You actually walked into one of my other questions about A and D. What's the magnitude of the drop off you expect in the Q3? And does that reset back to this current sales level in the Q4? How should we think about that on a go forward basis? Speaker 200:24:28Yes. I think it's going to reset to prior year levels. Speaker 400:24:31Okay. Speaker 200:24:32If you look at our comparison of Q2 or yes, Q2 of last year to Q2 of this year, it's going to drop back to those prior levels. That's our expectation, but it's day by day, John, to be honest with you. Okay. Speaker 400:24:46And how much do you expect it to fall off in Q3? Speaker 300:24:52John, it's going to be a rather significant drop in Q3 just given how well they're positioned right now. And that's what's going Speaker 200:24:58to drive that price mix. If you look at the comparison between Q2 of 2023 to Q2 of 2024, I think we're up about 10,000 tonnes quarter over quarter. That's what we expect potentially it will drop in Q3. Speaker 400:25:16Okay. All right. I think I've monopolized the call enough. I'll get back into queue. Thank you for taking the questions. Speaker 200:25:22All right. Thanks, John. Operator00:25:24Our next question comes from the line of Dave Storms with Stonegate. Please go ahead. Speaker 500:25:29Good morning and thank you for taking my questions. Just wanted to get a sense of if this market softness gives you an opportunity to maybe cut costs further and any levers you could potentially pull there? Speaker 200:25:44Yes. I mean, look, we're being very disciplined in our financial management. We've already reduced, which we put in the earnings release, some of the CapEx spending for this year. And we're optimizing our cost the best we can with the current demand levels. But at the same time, what we're really focused on is implementing and accelerating our strategic imperatives on our key strategic investments around our automated grinding line, our installing our inline saws, getting the new camera technology to drive higher yields and higher quality and lower cost. Speaker 200:26:23And that's what we're focused on. We're also focused on taking the opportunity to increase the training of our employees, cross training to make them multi crafted to be able to run multiple pieces of equipment, be more mobile and moving without the throughout the plants to operate equipment to optimize our workforce. So those are the things that are in our control and that's what we're focused on. Speaker 500:26:55Understood. That's very helpful. Thank you. And then you mentioned CapEx in that. I know you produce CapEx guidance. Speaker 500:27:02Is that a specific program or initiative that you're taking off the table? And as you're thinking about CapEx, kind of what's the split between maybe maintenance versus hardware purchases versus IT and automation initiatives? Speaker 200:27:21Well, it's not affecting the IT transformation project that we're doing. It's twofold. Dave, it's some maintenance that we're deferring, But most of it is certain projects that we've just have become a lower priority at this time as we focus on the bigger beneficial projects to get them implemented while we have the time to accelerate them when we don't have the demand level as high as we usually expect. Speaker 500:27:57Understood. And if I could ask just one more. You mentioned that you reached a milestone on the Bloom project. That was announced back in February. Is this maybe a typical pacing for the milestones every, call it, 2 quarters or so? Speaker 500:28:13Just how should we be thinking about those? Speaker 200:28:16Well, in our in the arrangement with the Department of Defense and US Army, there are certain milestones that we have to meet to receive the funding step by step throughout the project. So we've met a number of those who received that funding. What recently happened, we just did the groundbreaking ceremony, where we actually put a couple shovels in the ground and started the beginning of the execution of the excavation for the foundations, the new building and everything to begin the erection of the new facility. Speaker 500:29:04Understood. Thank you for taking my questions and good luck in the Q3. Speaker 200:29:07All right. Thank you. Operator00:29:14And our next question will come from the line of Phil Gibbs with KeyBanc Capital Markets. Please go ahead. Speaker 600:29:21Hey, good morning. Speaker 200:29:22Good morning. Speaker 600:29:26The step up in absolute costs sequentially in the second quarter, I think was a bit surprising to us. You guys mentioned the 2 outages in the quarter, 1 in May and 1 in June, but you also have your planned outages in the Q3. So does that sort of mute that sequential pickup or that would be sequential pickup given you already had some downtime in the second quarter? Speaker 200:29:55Well, the first extended downtime was for us to install technology on our EAF for safety, reliability and improved quality. And we would have done that project in the October early November timeframe. However, with the lack of demand, we had the opportunity and it's such a beneficial improvement to our EAF and our efficiencies and costs, we decided to do it in Q2. The other extended downtime, Phil, was the electrical company approached us and we would have done this in the October timeframe as well, okay. They approached us. Speaker 200:30:39They had reliability issues that we've experienced over the last couple of years. They were in a position to totally upgrade their whole delivery system into our Faircrest facility. At the same time, they were also experiencing significant voltage loss on that equipment. So actually it was a win win for both companies and we just decided to go ahead and do it because pretty much lack of spot demand. But that doesn't change the timeframe in which our outage in October, early November is going to occur because that was all a part of it in parallel with what we're doing during that timeframe. Speaker 200:31:23And what's there are other projects that had longer or longer execution times in the planning schedules. So they were all going to be tucked in within the overall long lead time planning schedule for the outage in October. That makes sense to you? Speaker 600:31:43No, it does make sense. I'm more so asking about the typical maintenance. I think you said $13,000,000 split equally between the 3rd Q4, but you did have some things in the Q2 that may be, I wouldn't say one time, but less routine in nature. And so is it fair to just add the cost associated with the split of that 13 in the Q3? Or should we take into account the fact that you carried some a little bit more elevated costs in the Q2, I guess, is my question? Speaker 200:32:17Yes. We did carry a little bit of elevated costs for the first project I talked about. But the second project, which was really the electrical providers, that we had very little cost except for the fixed cost leverage effect of the downtime for 7 days. Speaker 300:32:37To add to that, Phil, we melted it was about 60,000 tonnes lower in Q2 versus Q1. That was a sizable step down from a cost leverage standpoint. Speaker 400:32:49Okay. Speaker 600:32:49And then in the Q3, you're saying you're picking up your melt rates to meet the demand in the 3rd and 4th quarter. So should we expect to pick up in your inventory then in the 3rd quarter given that? Speaker 200:33:06Yes. Again, the melt rates are going to increase because the electrical outage isn't going to occur. And later this quarter, we'll have very soon, we'll be starting to melt 4th quarter orders. So we do expect to pick up in melt utilization. Speaker 600:33:23And then the last one I have is just on the Bloomer. So it sounds like you have already received through July about $30,000,000 from the government, if I heard your remarks correctly. The $55,000,000 in CapEx does not include anything that you may have to spend this year. It doesn't really sound like you may spend anything this year given the lead times of the equipment. So we should expect basically next year's CapEx numbers to on a gross basis reflect this investment and then some receipt this year from the government and then some receipt next year from the government? Speaker 600:34:04Is that the thought process? Speaker 200:34:06Yes. We expect based on the milestone agreements that we have that there will be some additional payment later this year. There will be down payments that we have to put in place for ordering a number of the equipment. But yes, the cash inflows are going to outpace the cash. The cash inflows are going to outpace the cash outflows. Speaker 200:34:29And then you'll start to see all that cash outflow occur next year. Speaker 400:34:35Okay. Got it. Speaker 600:34:36Makes perfect sense. Thank you. Speaker 200:34:39Thank you, Phil. Operator00:34:41Our next question is a follow-up from the line of John Franzreb with Sidoti. Please go ahead. Speaker 400:34:47Yes. I apologize if I missed this, but how much was the melt utilization impacted in the quarter by the downtime in the electrical upgrade? Speaker 200:34:59Do you have a breakdown of that? Speaker 300:35:01Yes, it was between 7 10 days. So 7% to 10% honestly, percent a day essentially. Okay. So decent percentage points. Speaker 400:35:13And Chris, if I heard your comments properly, I think you used the words exhaust or share authorization. How aggressively should we be considering share repurchases as we model out for the balance of the year? Speaker 300:35:29We're going to maintain flexibility there. We're committed to exhausting it, not over a specific timeframe. But we are going to continue to do that as the prices allow and at lower prices you buy a bit more. We'll continue to provide updates on that on a quarterly basis going forward. Speaker 400:35:49Okay. Thank you for taking my follow ups. Speaker 200:35:53Thanks, John. Operator00:35:55And that will conclude our question and answer session today. I'll turn the call back to Jennifer Beeman for closing remarks. Speaker 100:36:01Great. 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There are 7 speakers on the call. Operator00:00:00Hello, and thank you for standing by. My name is Regina, and I will be your conference operator today. At this time, I would like to welcome everyone to the Metalis Inc. 2nd Quarter 2024 Earnings Conference Call. All lines have been placed on mute to prevent any background noise. Operator00:00:16After the speakers' remarks, there will be a question and answer session. I would now like to turn the conference over to Jennifer Beaman. Please go ahead. Speaker 100:00:32Good morning, and welcome to Metalis' Q2 2024 Conference Call. I'm Jennifer Beaman, Director of Communications and Investor Relations for Metallus. Joining me today is Mike Williams, President and Chief Executive Officer Chris Westbrooks, Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer and Kevin Rakitic, Executive Vice President and Chief Commercial Officer. You all should have received a copy of our press release, which was issued last night. During today's conference call, we may make forward looking statements as defined by the SEC. Speaker 100:01:09Our actual results may differ materially from those projected or implied due to a variety of factors, which we described in greater detail in yesterday's release. Please refer to our SEC filings, including our most recent Form 10 ks and Form 10 Q and the list of factors included in our earnings release, all of which are available on the Metalis website. Where non GAAP financial information is referenced, additional details and reconciliations to its GAAP equivalent are also included in the release. With that, I'd like to turn the call over to Mike. Mike? Speaker 200:01:47Good morning, everyone, and thank you for joining us. During the Q2, we focused on what we can control to mitigate the impact of challenged market conditions. Our shipments to the aerospace and defense end market remained strong and our automotive shipments were steady. Unfortunately, the sluggishness in the industrial and energy end markets seen in the Q1 extended into the Q2. This weakness is attributed to softening global economic conditions, elevated imports, customer and supply chain inventory positions as well as scrap price uncertainty. Speaker 200:02:32Despite some unfavorable end markets, we remain committed to managing what's in our control by aligning our production with demand, carefully managing our working capital and cost, while investing in our assets and employees for future growth. During the quarter, we maintained positive profitability and operating cash flow, a testament to our business model and disciplined financial management. I am confident that as market dynamics evolve, we are well positioned to take advantage of the demand recovery and anticipate improved profitability. At Metalis, safety is not just a priority, it's a core value. We believe that a safe workplace is a productive and successful one. Speaker 200:03:23We have established a comprehensive safety strategy and have set ambitious goals to ensure the well-being of our employees, contractors and guests. We have made considerable progress in executing our safety strategy, which involves enhancing our safety processes and systems as well as our physical environment, our cultural environment and our safety capabilities with a strong focus on serious injury and fatality prevention. In the second half of the year, we will continue executing our safety strategy with a focus on comprehensive pre job safety planning and inspections, maturing our serious injury and fatality prevention programs continuing to invest in our physical equipment and equipment guarding upgrades and targeted injury reduction strategies related to hand injuries and ergonomics. Our safety strategy is having a positive impact as we are observing positive indicators in our employee engagement, hazard identification and incident prevention. To date, we have allocated $4,500,000 towards safety initiatives. Speaker 200:04:42As a reminder, our projection for the total annual safety investment was approximately $7,000,000 Turning to our end markets, as I had mentioned earlier, demand in our industrial and energy markets remain weak. For example, we believe agricultural machinery investments are being delayed in the face of higher prices and interest rates. Industrial distribution inventory levels remain elevated due to lower end customer demand, short lead times and scrap price uncertainty. Lastly, rail and mining markets are expected to remain soft for the year. Looking at our automotive performance, we saw a sequential 2% increase in shipments. Speaker 200:05:32Although there have been and continue to be periodic disruptions in the automotive supply chain, demand has remained resilient. We are pleased to provide our automotive customers with high quality bar and tube products as well as manufactured components for internal combustion, hybrid and electric vehicles. The aerospace and defense market remained strong in the 2nd quarter, despite our initial expectation of a sequential decline due to the timing of customers' orders. That anticipated decline, however, has been delayed by 1 quarter, and we now expect 3rd quarter shipments in this end market to be lower than those in the 2nd quarter. Earlier, I mentioned the negative impact of imports on our business. Speaker 200:06:23To put this in perspective, SBQ imports constituted roughly 10% of the market from 2020 to mid-twenty 22. But this number rose to about 17% from the Q4 of 2023 through the first half of this year. Similarly, we continue to be pressured by an elevated level of tubing imports. Turning to our capital investments. We are making significant progress by investing in assets to drive growth as well as improved product quality, asset reliability, customer service and cost structure. Speaker 200:07:05Earlier this week, we marked a groundbreaking ceremony at our Faircrest steelmaking plant to celebrate the building of a bloom reheat furnace. The event was attended by numerous local state and federal officials, including Ohio's Lieutenant Governor, John Eustat. It was announced that we have been awarded $3,500,000 in grants from JobsOhio to support the planned expansion of our steelmaking facilities. These grants are intended to facilitate training, modernize equipment and enhance skills for deploying cutting edge steel milling technologies. The installation of a continuous bloom reheat furnace will help us meet growing demand for both existing and new customers. Speaker 200:07:56We are grateful for the support from the community, the state of Ohio and our federal government, which will enable us to enhance and optimize our assets, increase our capacity of high quality defense products and support key training initiatives focused on safety and technology through a workforce development grant. As a reminder, in February, we announced an agreement for up to $99,000,000 in funding from the United States Army to support our national defense efforts. As a reminder, we expect the Bloom reheat furnace to be operational in late 2025. During the quarter, we invested $14,000,000 in capital expenditures with further progress on the installation of an automated grinding line, in line saw technology and new camera inspection technologies. These initiatives are part of our broader strategy to achieve significant cost reductions, generate free cash flow and improve our profitability. Speaker 200:09:09While the current demand environment has some challenges, we remain confident in our strategic imperatives and our ability to navigate market volatility. We are committed to driving growth, enhancing profitability and delivering value to our shareholders. Now, I will turn the call over to Chris Westbrooks, who will provide more details on our financial performance. Speaker 300:09:36Thanks, Mike. Good morning and thank you for joining Metallus' Q2 of 2024 Earnings Call. Throughout the quarter, we continued to navigate challenging market conditions, demonstrating the resilience of our business model and the strength of our team. From a financial perspective, 2nd quarter net sales totaled $294,700,000 a sequential decrease of 8%. The decline in net sales was primarily due to lower shipments, unfavorable price mix and a 12% market driven decline in the average raw material surcharge revenue per ton as a result of lower scrap prices. Speaker 300:10:14Net income in the second quarter was $4,600,000 or $0.10 per diluted share. Comparatively, sequential first quarter net sales were $321,600,000 with net income of $24,000,000 or $0.52 per diluted share. Net sales in last year's Q2 were $356,600,000 with net income of $28,900,000 or $0.62 per diluted share. On an adjusted basis, net income in the Q2 of 2024 was $6,700,000 or $0.15 per diluted share. Comparatively, 1st quarter adjusted net income was $26,100,000 or $0.56 per diluted share. Speaker 300:10:58Adjusted net income in the Q2 of last year was $27,600,000 or $0.60 per diluted share. Adjusted EBITDA was $19,900,000 in the Q2 of 2024, a sequential decline primarily driven by the impact from lower we balance production with demand. Other drivers of the sequential decline in adjusted EBITDA were modestly lower shipments, a reduction in price mix and a market driven decrease in the raw material scrap surcharge environment. Turning now to the details of financial results in the Shipments were 150,100 tonnes in the quarter, a decrease of 5,100 tonnes or 3% compared with the Q1. In the industrial end market, shipments totaled 56,400 tonnes in the quarter, a sequential decrease of 4,400 tonnes or 7%. Speaker 300:11:53Industrial shipments remained soft with distribution customers resistant to stock inventory given short lead times, the current interest rate environment and uncertainty in scrap prices. Automotive shipments were 67,800 tonnes in the 2nd quarter, up 2% from the Q1 on steady customer demand. In aerospace and defense, or A and D for short, shipments totaled 16,400 tonnes in the quarter relatively in line with the Q1 as demand continued to remain strong. We expected a decline in A and D shipments from the 1st to second quarter based on customer order timing. However, that expected decline was pushed out 1 quarter and we're now anticipating 3rd quarter A and D shipments to be sequentially lower than the 2nd quarter. Speaker 300:12:41We expect A and D shipments to increase in the 4th quarter from the 3rd with continued strength into 2025. Compared to the prior year quarter, A and D shipments doubled in the Q2 of 2024. Shipments to energy customers remained soft at 9,500 tonnes in the quarter, a sequential decrease of 1900 tonnes. Turning now to manufacturing. As expected, alignment of production with demand drove unfavorable cost leverage during the quarter. Speaker 300:13:11In May, we took approximately 1 week of downtime to install new technology on our electric arc furnace to drive higher levels of asset reliability and safety performance. Additionally, in June, the melt shop was down approximately 1 week for electricity supplier infrastructure upgrades. As a result of these actions and the continued balancing of production with demand, the melt utilization rate was 53% in the 2nd quarter compared with 72% in the 1st quarter and 75% in the same quarter last year. That said, our manufacturing team is carefully managing variable costs given the lower levels of production. Now switching gears to pensions. Speaker 300:13:52In the Q2, the company made $5,900,000 of required contributions to the bargaining pension plan. Including previous required contributions from the Q1, as well as planned required contributions of $3,000,000 in the 3rd quarter and $5,000,000 in the 4th quarter, we expect a total of approximately $43,000,000 of required pension contributions this year. This forecasted level of required pension contributions is $2,000,000 lower than previous guidance. As it relates to the salary pension plan, during the Q2, we successfully completed the transfer of $121,000,000 of salary pension plan liabilities to a highly rated insurance company. As I mentioned last quarter, the salaried pension annuitization as well as a similar bargaining pension annuitization of 2 $6,000,000 in 2022 represent significant steps towards further strengthening our balance sheet and de risking our legacy pension plans. Speaker 300:14:52At the end of June, the company's remaining pension liabilities totaled approximately $550,000,000 a significant reduction from the $1,300,000,000 of total pension liabilities at the end of 2021. Moving on to cash flow and liquidity. During the Q2, operating cash flow was $8,300,000 driven by profitability and lower working capital, partially offset by required pension contributions. Capital expenditures totaled $14,100,000 in the 2nd quarter. We estimate full year CapEx to be approximately $55,000,000 a $5,000,000 reduction from the previous guidance. Speaker 300:15:31This 2024 CapEx guidance does not include government funded investments. As a reminder, in February, the company entered into an agreement with the U. S. Army for up to $99,750,000 in funding to support the Army's mission of ramping up munitions production. Specifically, the funding is expected to substantially pay for a new bloom reheat furnace at our Faircrest facility. Speaker 300:15:57As Mike mentioned, earlier this week, we broke ground on this new investment. We're targeting late 2025 to be operational. The new Bloom reheat furnace is expected to increase throughput of high quality bar based products and support approximately $60,000,000 of incremental defense product based sales annually. During the Q2, we received an initial payment of $10,000,000 from the government. In July, we received a payment of $20,000,000 Additional funding is expected to be provided as mutually agreed upon milestones are achieved throughout the project. Speaker 300:16:33Through the end of June, project spending has been minimal. We look forward to providing updates on the significant growth project in future quarters. Switching gears to shareholder return activities. Given progress on previous common share repurchase programs as summarized last quarter, the company's Board of Directors authorized an additional $100,000,000 common share repurchase program in May. During the Q2, the company repurchased 440,000 shares at a cost of $9,600,000 To date, in 2024 through the end of July, share repurchases totaled 836,000 at a cost of $17,900,000 In total, as of July 31, the company had $122,500,000 remaining under its authorized share repurchase program. Speaker 300:17:26We remain committed to exhausting this authorization as we progress forward as supported by the continued strength of our balance sheet and cash flow generation. At the end of the Q2, the company's cash and cash equivalents totaled $272,800,000 total liquidity was $512,100,000 We expect the strength of the company's balance sheet combined with expected through cycle profitability and positive operating cash flow to provide us the opportunity to continue to execute on our capital allocation strategy. This includes investing in profitable growth, maintaining a strong balance sheet and returning capital to shareholders through continued share repurchases. Turning now to the outlook. 3rd quarter shipments are expected to be lower than the 2nd quarter. Speaker 300:18:15From an end market perspective, automotive shipments are expected to remain relatively steady, while industrial and energy demand remains soft. While long term aerospace and defense demand is expected to remain strong, we anticipate a sequential decline in 3rd quarter A and D shipments based on customer order timing. Base price per ton is anticipated to remain relatively steady in the 3rd quarter, while product mix is expected to be less favorable than the 2nd quarter given lower A and D shipments. Operationally, annual shutdown maintenance is planned for the second half of the year at a total cost of approximately $13,000,000 split relatively evenly between the 3rd 4th quarters. Additionally, the 3rd quarter melt utilization rate is expected to sequentially increase while the company continues to balance production with demand. Speaker 300:19:07With lead times currently in the late 3rd to early 4th quarter and melt shop shutdown maintenance planned for October, much of the Q3 melt production will support 4th quarter shipments. Given these elements, the company anticipates Q3 adjusted EBITDA to be lower than the 2nd quarter. To wrap up, thanks to our employees for their daily collaboration, while focusing on finishing each and every day incidents and injury free. We remain committed to controlling what we can control in a challenging market environment, while investing in the future and returning capital to shareholders. The hard work of our team to deliver on our strategic imperatives has positioned us well to capitalize as demand recovers and expect to realize significant improvement in future profitability. Speaker 300:19:54Thanks for your interest in Metallus. We would now like to open the call for questions. Operator00:20:06Our first question will come from the line of John Franzreb with Sidoti. Please go ahead. Speaker 400:20:11Good morning, everyone, and thanks for taking the questions. I'd like to just talk about the Q2. When you look back, what were the biggest surprises in the puts and takes on both a revenue and a cost basis relative to what you were thinking, say, 3 months ago? Speaker 200:20:30Good morning, John. I think probably one of the biggest surprise for us on the revenue side was the lack of demand, particularly from the spot market. As you recall, we went into 2024 with around a 60%, 65% contractual mix and the remainder spot. Our view is the fact that the high interest rates, the economic uncertainty are weighing on people and they're just not buying at the levels, not only in the order quantities, but buying in total much less and really operating at a hand and mouth perspective. So from a volume standpoint, that was a large influence in Q2 compared to what our expectation was going into Q2. Speaker 200:21:21Secondly, it's really the mix of customers that affected base pricing, where those spot customers tend to pay a higher per ton base price versus our contractual customers and the lack of that demand from those spot customers influences our ASP, our average selling price. I would say from a revenue standpoint, those two things. Additionally, the fact that our electrical supplier came in and wanted to upgrade their distribution facility that feeds our Faircrest Steel plant. And based on the order demand pattern, we agreed to go ahead and allow them to make all the upgrades to reduce voltage loss, increase reliability for our long term benefit. So that took a week of operations and it heavily influenced our leverage fixed cost leverage. Speaker 200:22:24Mike, if I could add one thing. Sure. Speaker 300:22:25On the automotive space, we did have a couple of customers that experienced downtime during the quarter. So that was unplanned on their part and that impacted it was about 5,000 tons that we expected to ship in Q2. And now they're back and operating again, but that uncertainty created some disruption. Speaker 400:22:44Okay. So the electrical upgrade was an unplanned downtime in the quarter and the auto downtime, is that expected to be recaptured in the 3rd quarter? Can you just walk me through those 2 puts and takes? Speaker 200:23:01Well, actually, yes, the customers that were affected with their unplanned downtime that will recover in the Q3. But unfortunately, we've been informed by at least 2 large OEMs that they are one of them is trying to optimize their supply chain inventory. So that will reduce demand from that OEM. And the other one has other issues where they where we were informed that their plant is going down or an unspecified period of time to correct a number of issues. So that will affect us in Q3. Speaker 200:23:37Combine that with the lack of our expectation is a number of our large defense customers, we've said we thought it was going to happen in Q2, but now we believe it's going to happen in Q3 that they had ramped up for commissioning new equipment with advanced orders. They have all the supply they need. So we don't expect those orders to repeat until they get all that equipment commissioned later this year. Speaker 400:24:10Okay. You actually walked into one of my other questions about A and D. What's the magnitude of the drop off you expect in the Q3? And does that reset back to this current sales level in the Q4? How should we think about that on a go forward basis? Speaker 200:24:28Yes. I think it's going to reset to prior year levels. Speaker 400:24:31Okay. Speaker 200:24:32If you look at our comparison of Q2 or yes, Q2 of last year to Q2 of this year, it's going to drop back to those prior levels. That's our expectation, but it's day by day, John, to be honest with you. Okay. Speaker 400:24:46And how much do you expect it to fall off in Q3? Speaker 300:24:52John, it's going to be a rather significant drop in Q3 just given how well they're positioned right now. And that's what's going Speaker 200:24:58to drive that price mix. If you look at the comparison between Q2 of 2023 to Q2 of 2024, I think we're up about 10,000 tonnes quarter over quarter. That's what we expect potentially it will drop in Q3. Speaker 400:25:16Okay. All right. I think I've monopolized the call enough. I'll get back into queue. Thank you for taking the questions. Speaker 200:25:22All right. Thanks, John. Operator00:25:24Our next question comes from the line of Dave Storms with Stonegate. Please go ahead. Speaker 500:25:29Good morning and thank you for taking my questions. Just wanted to get a sense of if this market softness gives you an opportunity to maybe cut costs further and any levers you could potentially pull there? Speaker 200:25:44Yes. I mean, look, we're being very disciplined in our financial management. We've already reduced, which we put in the earnings release, some of the CapEx spending for this year. And we're optimizing our cost the best we can with the current demand levels. But at the same time, what we're really focused on is implementing and accelerating our strategic imperatives on our key strategic investments around our automated grinding line, our installing our inline saws, getting the new camera technology to drive higher yields and higher quality and lower cost. Speaker 200:26:23And that's what we're focused on. We're also focused on taking the opportunity to increase the training of our employees, cross training to make them multi crafted to be able to run multiple pieces of equipment, be more mobile and moving without the throughout the plants to operate equipment to optimize our workforce. So those are the things that are in our control and that's what we're focused on. Speaker 500:26:55Understood. That's very helpful. Thank you. And then you mentioned CapEx in that. I know you produce CapEx guidance. Speaker 500:27:02Is that a specific program or initiative that you're taking off the table? And as you're thinking about CapEx, kind of what's the split between maybe maintenance versus hardware purchases versus IT and automation initiatives? Speaker 200:27:21Well, it's not affecting the IT transformation project that we're doing. It's twofold. Dave, it's some maintenance that we're deferring, But most of it is certain projects that we've just have become a lower priority at this time as we focus on the bigger beneficial projects to get them implemented while we have the time to accelerate them when we don't have the demand level as high as we usually expect. Speaker 500:27:57Understood. And if I could ask just one more. You mentioned that you reached a milestone on the Bloom project. That was announced back in February. Is this maybe a typical pacing for the milestones every, call it, 2 quarters or so? Speaker 500:28:13Just how should we be thinking about those? Speaker 200:28:16Well, in our in the arrangement with the Department of Defense and US Army, there are certain milestones that we have to meet to receive the funding step by step throughout the project. So we've met a number of those who received that funding. What recently happened, we just did the groundbreaking ceremony, where we actually put a couple shovels in the ground and started the beginning of the execution of the excavation for the foundations, the new building and everything to begin the erection of the new facility. Speaker 500:29:04Understood. Thank you for taking my questions and good luck in the Q3. Speaker 200:29:07All right. Thank you. Operator00:29:14And our next question will come from the line of Phil Gibbs with KeyBanc Capital Markets. Please go ahead. Speaker 600:29:21Hey, good morning. Speaker 200:29:22Good morning. Speaker 600:29:26The step up in absolute costs sequentially in the second quarter, I think was a bit surprising to us. You guys mentioned the 2 outages in the quarter, 1 in May and 1 in June, but you also have your planned outages in the Q3. So does that sort of mute that sequential pickup or that would be sequential pickup given you already had some downtime in the second quarter? Speaker 200:29:55Well, the first extended downtime was for us to install technology on our EAF for safety, reliability and improved quality. And we would have done that project in the October early November timeframe. However, with the lack of demand, we had the opportunity and it's such a beneficial improvement to our EAF and our efficiencies and costs, we decided to do it in Q2. The other extended downtime, Phil, was the electrical company approached us and we would have done this in the October timeframe as well, okay. They approached us. Speaker 200:30:39They had reliability issues that we've experienced over the last couple of years. They were in a position to totally upgrade their whole delivery system into our Faircrest facility. At the same time, they were also experiencing significant voltage loss on that equipment. So actually it was a win win for both companies and we just decided to go ahead and do it because pretty much lack of spot demand. But that doesn't change the timeframe in which our outage in October, early November is going to occur because that was all a part of it in parallel with what we're doing during that timeframe. Speaker 200:31:23And what's there are other projects that had longer or longer execution times in the planning schedules. So they were all going to be tucked in within the overall long lead time planning schedule for the outage in October. That makes sense to you? Speaker 600:31:43No, it does make sense. I'm more so asking about the typical maintenance. I think you said $13,000,000 split equally between the 3rd Q4, but you did have some things in the Q2 that may be, I wouldn't say one time, but less routine in nature. And so is it fair to just add the cost associated with the split of that 13 in the Q3? Or should we take into account the fact that you carried some a little bit more elevated costs in the Q2, I guess, is my question? Speaker 200:32:17Yes. We did carry a little bit of elevated costs for the first project I talked about. But the second project, which was really the electrical providers, that we had very little cost except for the fixed cost leverage effect of the downtime for 7 days. Speaker 300:32:37To add to that, Phil, we melted it was about 60,000 tonnes lower in Q2 versus Q1. That was a sizable step down from a cost leverage standpoint. Speaker 400:32:49Okay. Speaker 600:32:49And then in the Q3, you're saying you're picking up your melt rates to meet the demand in the 3rd and 4th quarter. So should we expect to pick up in your inventory then in the 3rd quarter given that? Speaker 200:33:06Yes. Again, the melt rates are going to increase because the electrical outage isn't going to occur. And later this quarter, we'll have very soon, we'll be starting to melt 4th quarter orders. So we do expect to pick up in melt utilization. Speaker 600:33:23And then the last one I have is just on the Bloomer. So it sounds like you have already received through July about $30,000,000 from the government, if I heard your remarks correctly. The $55,000,000 in CapEx does not include anything that you may have to spend this year. It doesn't really sound like you may spend anything this year given the lead times of the equipment. So we should expect basically next year's CapEx numbers to on a gross basis reflect this investment and then some receipt this year from the government and then some receipt next year from the government? Speaker 600:34:04Is that the thought process? Speaker 200:34:06Yes. We expect based on the milestone agreements that we have that there will be some additional payment later this year. There will be down payments that we have to put in place for ordering a number of the equipment. But yes, the cash inflows are going to outpace the cash. The cash inflows are going to outpace the cash outflows. Speaker 200:34:29And then you'll start to see all that cash outflow occur next year. Speaker 400:34:35Okay. Got it. Speaker 600:34:36Makes perfect sense. Thank you. Speaker 200:34:39Thank you, Phil. Operator00:34:41Our next question is a follow-up from the line of John Franzreb with Sidoti. Please go ahead. Speaker 400:34:47Yes. I apologize if I missed this, but how much was the melt utilization impacted in the quarter by the downtime in the electrical upgrade? Speaker 200:34:59Do you have a breakdown of that? Speaker 300:35:01Yes, it was between 7 10 days. So 7% to 10% honestly, percent a day essentially. Okay. So decent percentage points. Speaker 400:35:13And Chris, if I heard your comments properly, I think you used the words exhaust or share authorization. How aggressively should we be considering share repurchases as we model out for the balance of the year? Speaker 300:35:29We're going to maintain flexibility there. We're committed to exhausting it, not over a specific timeframe. But we are going to continue to do that as the prices allow and at lower prices you buy a bit more. We'll continue to provide updates on that on a quarterly basis going forward. Speaker 400:35:49Okay. Thank you for taking my follow ups. Speaker 200:35:53Thanks, John. Operator00:35:55And that will conclude our question and answer session today. I'll turn the call back to Jennifer Beeman for closing remarks. Speaker 100:36:01Great. Thanks everyone for joining us today and that concludes our call.Read moreRemove AdsPowered by