NetSol Technologies Q4 2024 Earnings Call Transcript

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October 1, 2024

There are 6 speakers on the call.

Operator

Good morning, and welcome to NetSol Technologies Fiscal 4th Quarter and Year End 2024 Earnings Conference Call. On the call today are Najeeb Gowrie, Co Founder, Chairman and Chief Executive Officer and Roger Almond, Chief Financial Officer. I would now like to turn the call over to John Nesbitt, who will provide the necessary cautions regarding the forward looking statements made by management during this call. Please proceed.

Speaker 1

Good morning, everyone, and thank you for joining us. Following a review of the company's business highlights and financial results, we will open the call for questions. I'll now provide the necessary cautions regarding the forward looking statements made by management during this call. Please note that all the information discussed on today's call is covered under the Safe Harbor provision of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act. The company's discussion may include forward looking statements reflecting management's current forecast of certain aspects of the company's future, and our actual results could differ materially from those stated or implied.

Speaker 1

These forward looking statements are qualified by the cautionary statements contained in NetSol's press releases and SEC filings, including our annual report on Form 10 ks and quarterly reports on Form 10 Q. I'd also like to point out that we will be discussing certain non GAAP measures. The press release issued earlier today contains a reconciliation of these non GAAP financial results to their most comparable GAAP measures. Finally, I would like to remind everyone that this call will be recorded and made available for replay at www.netsoltech.com and via the link available in today's press release. Now, I'd like to turn the call over to Najeeb.

Speaker 1

Go ahead, Najeeb.

Speaker 2

Thank you, John, and good morning, everyone. Today, I'm calling from Riyadh, Saudi Arabia, which is one of the fastest growing economy in the world. In the full fiscal year 2024, we recognized a 17% increase in revenue to $61,400,000 exceeding our full year revenue target of between $60,000,000 to $61,000,000 and driving full year profitability with earnings per share $0.06 We also met our fiscal 2024 annual recurring revenue of $28,000,000 We are very proud of these results which are in line with our growth strategy and validate our hard work and execution over the past several years as we evolved and repositioned our business to meet the shifting demands of our customers and the markets in which we operate. In parallel, with our revenue growth and profitability, a key focus for us this past year has been proactively managing costs while investing in the growth areas of our business. Throughout the year, we increased our investment in sales and marketing to support our long term growth goals in what we consider to be a favorable market environment.

Speaker 2

We also place an emphasis on new product development and introduction as evidenced by example portfolio of products and service offerings. We have transcended the complex digital retail and financing processes. For example, we delivered an end to end digital retail experience for many USA in less than 7 months, virtually unheard of in our space because we understand the e commerce side of car buying as well as the financing complexities. Another major focus for NetSol this past year has been the innovation and integration of AI into both our products and services as well as our internal operations. As a global technology company with large presences in key markets, we are well positioned to take considerable advantage of the tremendous opportunity that AI presents to our industry and potentially expand into new verticals as we continue to innovate, adapt and improve our technology to meet customer and industry demands.

Speaker 2

To that end, we are pleased to have added a top talent to our already impressive team of AI experts and we will continue to look for leaders in the AI industry that are aligned with NetSol's goals and values and can help us to further innovate and enhance our AI capabilities. As a global company, we place an emphasis on our presence in key geographic markets. As we've spoken to on previous calls, our most vibrant market has historically been Asia Pacific or APAC in which we possess a leading market share and service customers that include major Tier 1 automakers and banks throughout the region. Europe has also been a strong market for us where we service a variety of different banks, financial institutions and financing companies with our comprehensive portfolio of products and offerings. We're also seeing considerable demand for our products and services in the United States, especially through our SaaS based offerings.

Speaker 2

Autos, our omni channel digital retail platform has experienced strong demand in the U. S. Among Mini Anywhere Dealership which are a subsidiary of BMW Group. Additionally, subsequent to the close of the quarter, we signed a $16,000,000 5 year deal with the BMW in the U. S.

Speaker 2

To revolutionize the digital car buying experience for the customers in the U. S. This deal includes the customization, implementation, deployment and ongoing SaaS subscription of autos is the largest deal to date by dollar value for NetSol in the U. S. And we are still only beginning to scratch the surface of this market.

Speaker 2

The U. S. Represents an extremely attractive opportunity for our business and with a strong pipeline of potential deals for both our SaaS and licensed products, we are very excited with the prospects that we are looking ahead of us. Complementing our geographic expansion is the stickiness of our customer base. We have developed strong base of loyal recurring customers over the last 4 years.

Speaker 2

We have increased our customer retention rate from approximately 90% in 2021 to just below 95% in 2024 demonstrating the superior performance and reliability of our products and services. Before I hand the call over to our CFO, Roger Amund, I'd like to provide a sneak peek of what's in store for NetSol as we move into fiscal 2025. We expect this to be another year of strong growth for our business as we build on the progress that we made in fiscal 2024 and we are targeting double digit growth in fiscal 2025 driven by enhanced sales performance and market recognition of our products and services. Our established markets are strong and we are experiencing renewed demand specifically in APAC as evidenced by our recent deal with the major automaker from their operation in China that brings the total value of over $30,000,000 over 5 years. This activity coupled with our opportunities in the U.

Speaker 2

S. Positions us for a considerable growth in the year ahead. Moreover, we are taking a fresh look at the portfolio of NetSol products and how they fit together. We expect to be announcing shortly a comprehensive rebranding of our suite of products to more clearly differentiate and better align our brands with our target markets. So stay tuned as there is more to come on this front, but suffice to say for now that I'm very excited about the work being done on this front.

Speaker 2

With that, I'll now hand over call to our CFO, Rajaraman to talk about the financial results. Go ahead, Rajar.

Speaker 3

Thanks, Najeeb. I'm pleased to report that for the Q4 and full year, we saw increased revenue with significant increases in our margins and profitability. We also exited the year with a stronger balance sheet with an increased cash position as well as improved shareholders' equity. Our total net revenues for the Q4 of fiscal 2024 were $16,500,000 compared with $13,800,000 in the prior year period. For the full year, total net revenues were $61,400,000 compared with $52,400,000 in 2023.

Speaker 3

As Ajiv mentioned, our full fiscal year 20 24 revenue 2024 revenue exceeded our full year revenue target of between $60,000,000 $61,000,000 License fees for the Q4 of fiscal 2024 were $621,000 compared with $21,000 in the prior year period. Full fiscal year 2024 license fees were $5,500,000 compared with $2,300,000 in the prior year period. Recurring revenues or subscription and support revenues for the Q4 of fiscal 2024 were $7,500,000 compared with $6,800,000 in the prior year period. Recurring revenues for the full year 2024 were $28,000,000 in line with our annual recurring revenue target of $28,000,000 in 2024. Full year 2023 recurring revenues totaled $26,000,000 Total services revenue for the Q4 of fiscal 2024 were $8,400,000 compared with $7,000,000 in the prior year period.

Speaker 3

Total services revenue for the full fiscal year 2024 were $28,000,000 compared with $24,100,000 in the prior year period. Gross profit for the Q4 of fiscal 2024 was $8,500,000 or 52 percent of net revenues compared with $4,800,000 or 35 percent of net revenues in the prior year period. For the full fiscal year of 2024, gross profit totaled $29,300,000 or 48 percent of net revenues compared with $16,900,000 or 32 percent of net revenues in fiscal 2023. Operating expenses for the Q4 of fiscal 2024 were $7,700,000 or 47 percent of sales compared to $7,700,000 or 56 percent of sales in the same period last year. Operating expenses for the full fiscal year totaled $25,800,000 or 42 percent of sales compared with $25,700,000 or 49 percent of sales in fiscal 2023.

Speaker 3

Income from operations for the Q4 of fiscal 2024 was $798,000 compared to a loss from operations of $2,900,000 in the Q4 of fiscal 2023. Income from operations in fiscal 2024 was $3,500,000 compared with a loss from operations of $8,800,000 in the prior year period. Turning to our profitability metrics. Our GAAP net loss attributable to net sold for the Q4 of fiscal 2024 was $83,000 or $0.01 per diluted share compared with a GAAP net loss of $5,100,000 or $0.45 per diluted share in the Q4 of fiscal 2023. For the full fiscal year, GAAP net income attributable to NetSol totaled $684,000 or $0.06 per diluted share compared with a GAAP net loss attributable to netsol of $5,200,000 or $0.46 per diluted share in fiscal 2023.

Speaker 3

Moving to our Non GAAP EBITDA for the Q4 of fiscal 2024 was $1,200,000 or $0.11 per diluted share compared with a non GAAP EBITDA loss of 4,500,000 dollars or $0.40 per diluted share in the Q4 of the previous fiscal year. For the full fiscal year 2024, non GAAP EBITDA was $4,200,000 or $0.37 per diluted share compared with a non GAAP EBITDA loss of 4 $26,000 or $0.04 per diluted share in fiscal 2023. Non GAAP adjusted EBITDA for the Q4 of fiscal 2024 was $674,000 or $0.06 per diluted share compared with a non GAAP adjusted EBITDA loss of $4,200,000 or $0.37 per diluted share in the Q4 of fiscal 2023. Non GAAP adjusted EBITDA in the full fiscal year 2024 was 2,700,000 dollars or $0.23 per diluted share compared with a non GAAP adjusted EBITDA loss of $2,300,000 or $0.20 per diluted share in fiscal 2023. Please see the reconciliation schedules contained in our earnings release for our revised calculations of adjusted EBITDA for the quarters and fiscal years ended June 30, 20242023.

Speaker 3

Turning to our balance sheet. At the year end, we had cash and cash equivalents of approximately $19,100,000 up from $15,500,000 at June 30 last year. Total Nestle stockholders' equity at June 30, 2024 was $34,800,000 or $30.05 per share. That concludes my prepared remarks. I'll now turn the call back over to Najeeb.

Speaker 3

Najeeb?

Speaker 2

Thank you, Roger. We are so pleased with these results and progress that we've made in fiscal 2024 and we look forward to carrying the momentum into fiscal 2025 and beyond as we drive continued growth and value for our shareholders. With that, I'd like to open the call for question and answers. Operator?

Operator

Thank you. At this time, we'll be conducting a question and answer session. Thank you. Our first question comes from the line of Jeff Sigman with Sigman Capital. Please proceed with your question.

Speaker 4

Hey guys, thanks for taking the questions. A couple here. So first off, AI clearly continues to be a key focus. Can you kind of share any specific updates that you're especially excited about?

Speaker 2

Yes. Thank you for asking the question. We are particularly excited about the early adoption of AI within our organization as it positions us for a strong competitive advantage in the market. We have an AI adoption strategy in place where we have taken a holistic approach. Firstly, by integrating AI into our products and services, we are able to enhance customer experiences through customization, automation and predictive analytics, which drive better outcomes.

Speaker 2

We have lots going on in this front. We are invested in a seasonal investment and people hired to work with new initiatives. The company is really excited about the changes we make in AI. Internally, we are focusing on training employees to effectively leverage AI tools, transforming our operations by improving efficiency, reducing manual effort and operational costs and significantly boosting productivity. Bottom line is, our AI adoption is fast enough to make sure our customers are getting what they want as things go forward in the future.

Speaker 4

Got it. Understood. Thank you. And just one more. So you mentioned renewed demand in your existing markets, especially Asia Pacific.

Speaker 4

Can you expand on the trends you're seeing there?

Speaker 2

We have a dominant position in China, especially, which is our biggest market so far. We have perhaps 85% of the market share in this particular space. Our customers continue to adopt our flagship Ascent. There's more demand because the market has grown. We have customers who are still running more and more.

Speaker 2

So basically with the BMW being the biggest customer in China and Daimler Benz, which is also the 2 largest customers in many other names, I believe we have established reputation over the last 20 years since 2004. Very well known name, customer who work with us closely with our teams and offices in Beijing and China and Shanghai. And of course, they work very closely with our back office team. So there's a lot of comfort and excitement of what we do for China and the customers everywhere. So the word gets out, but it's not so going and I'm pretty confident to say that we are the leading company without a doubt in the whole China and Asia Pacific, what you've done in the last 20 years.

Speaker 2

So China market is looking pretty good for us.

Speaker 4

Got it. All right. That's helpful. Thank you. That's all from me.

Speaker 2

Thank you.

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Todd Felty with Aegis Financial. Please proceed with your question.

Speaker 5

Hey, guys. Congratulations on a great year. I missed the very first minute of the call. Do you have any updated guidance as far as revenue and earnings go for the next fiscal year?

Speaker 2

What we have said thank you for your compliment. I appreciate it. What we have said is we're saying we're looking at double digit growth in this fiscal year. And I think what we'll do is we normally give specific guidance of the ranges in the Q1, so we have better clarity. But right now, we're looking at double digit gain in the next fiscal year.

Speaker 5

Okay. And that's with a positive earnings per share for the year. Is there any range on that?

Speaker 2

Well, it's too soon to predict that. But look, we have done a great job in the year which is reported. The company is doing make sure that we have efficiency in more leaner organization and drive gross margins, which you see 47%, 48%. We like to keep that trend or even better. So pretty confident we'll have a better year than this fiscal year.

Speaker 5

Okay. That's great to hear. And finally, I know you have a lot of cash deployed in many different countries. Are you using any of that cash just invest in short term treasuries, just to get some return off of it while it's sitting around?

Speaker 2

Well, quite frankly, we have good cash in different locations. We're basically investing our own technology and our people and the new markets like North America, which is really, as you can imagine, how resilient, how big this market is. So we set up an office in Austin. We are hiring people. We're building some new verticals.

Speaker 2

So I think the cash is used to really grow the business. Right now, we're ready to do any stock buyback. We did that a couple of years ago. Right now, it's time to keep investing and make sure we have enough cash. And as you can see the history, company has not raised any money in the market for the last 12, 13 years.

Speaker 2

So we want to make sure we have strong cash. We are not dependent on outside cash and we continue to buy cash to continue the business operation and grow the operation globally.

Speaker 5

Okay. Thanks for taking my questions and good luck in the next fiscal year.

Speaker 2

You're welcome.

Operator

Thank you. At this time, this concludes or by calling them at 949-574-3860. I'd now like to turn the call over to Mr. Gowri for any closing remarks.

Speaker 2

Thank you very much for joining us today. I want to thank our investors for continued support, our loyal customers worldwide and our most dedicated employees in every location we have. So we're very proud of them for their contribution and what we've done this year and the future years. We're looking forward to see you in the NetSol's earnings call. Thank you and have a good day.

Operator

Thank you for joining us for NetSol's fiscal 4th quarter year end 2024 earnings call. You may now disconnect your lines.

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