Provident Financial Q2 2025 Earnings Call Transcript

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Operator

Hello, and thank you for standing by. My name is Bella, and I will be your conference operator today. At this time, I would like to welcome everyone to the Provident Financial Holdings 2nd Quarter of Fiscal 2025 Earnings Call. All lines have been placed on mute to prevent any background noise. After the speakers' remarks, there will be a question and answer I would now like to turn the conference over to Donovan Ternes, President and Chief Executive Officer.

Operator

Please go ahead.

Donavon Ternes
President & CEO at Provident Financial

Thank you, Bella. Good morning. This is Donovan Ternes, President and CEO of Provident Financial Holdings. And on the call with me is Tam Nguyen, our Senior Vice President and Chief Financial Officer. Before we begin, I have a brief administrative item to address.

Donavon Ternes
President & CEO at Provident Financial

Our presentation today discusses the company's business outlook and will include forward looking statements. Those statements include descriptions of management's plans, objectives or goals for future operations, products or services, forecasts of financial or other performance measures and statements about the company's general outlook for economic and business conditions. We also may make forward looking statements during the question and answer period following management's presentation. These forward looking statements are subject to a number of risks and uncertainties, and actual results may differ materially from those discussed today. Information on the risk factors that could cause actual results to differ from any forward looking statement is available from the earnings release that was distributed earlier this morning from the annual report on Form 10 ks for the year ended June 30, 2024, and from the Form 10 Qs and other SEC filings that are filed subsequent to the Form 10 ks.

Donavon Ternes
President & CEO at Provident Financial

Forward looking statements are effective only as of the date that they are made, and the company assumes no obligation to update this information. To begin with, thank you for participating in our call. I hope that each of you has had an opportunity to review our earnings release distributed earlier this morning, which describes our Q2 fiscal 2025 results. As a Southern California bank, I wanted to take a moment during our call this morning to thank the firefighters and first responders fighting the fires in Los Angeles. Our thoughts are with those affected by the fires.

Donavon Ternes
President & CEO at Provident Financial

We are actively monitoring the situation and have identified $23,700,000 or 2.2% of our loans held for investment portfolio located in zip codes within the fire evacuation and evacuation warning zones. We are aware of 2 homes with a combined loan balance of $658,000 with minor damage. We believe both homes are fully insured. We will continue to monitor the fluid situation and we'll work with these borrowers during this challenging time. In the most recent quarter, we originated $36,400,000 of loans held for investment, an increase from $28,900,000 in the prior sequential quarter.

Donavon Ternes
President & CEO at Provident Financial

During the most recent quarter, we also had $34,300,000 of loan principal payments and payoffs, which is up slightly from $34,000,000 in the September 2024 quarter. Currently, it seems that real estate investors have reduced their activity as a result of higher mortgage and other interest rates, although we continue to see moderate activity in loans held for investment. Additionally, we are seeing more consumer demand for single family adjustable rate mortgage products as a result of higher fixed rate mortgage interest rates. We have loosened a few of our underwriting requirements within certain loan segments to encourage higher loan origination volume. Additionally, our single family and multifamily loan pipelines are similar in comparison to last quarter, suggesting our loan originations in the March 2025 quarter will be similar to the December 2024 quarter and around the high end of the range of recent quarters, which has been between $19,000,000 $36,000,000 For the 3 months ended December 31, 2024, loans held for investment increased by approximately $5,000,000 when compared to the quarter ended September 30, 2024, with increases in the single family and commercial business loans, partly offset by decreases in the multifamily, commercial real estate and construction loans.

Donavon Ternes
President & CEO at Provident Financial

Current credit quality continues to hold up very well and you will note that non performing assets increased to just $2,500,000 on December 31, 2024, which is up from $2,100,000 on September 30, 2024. Additionally, there were no early stage delinquencies at December 31, 2024. We continue to monitor commercial real estate loans, particularly loans secured by office buildings, but are confident that based on the underwriting characteristics of our borrowers and collateral that these loans will continue to perform well. We have outlined these characteristics on Slide 13 of our quarterly investor presentation, which shows that our exposure to loans secured by various types of office buildings is approximately $40,400,000 or 3.8 percent of loans held for investment. You should also note that we have just 6 CRE loans for $3,200,000 maturing in calendar 2025.

Donavon Ternes
President & CEO at Provident Financial

We recorded a $586,000 provision for credit losses in the December 2024 quarter. The provision for credit losses recorded in the 2nd quarter was primarily attributable to a longer estimated life of the loan portfolio resulting from increased market interest rates and lower loan prepayment estimates, a slightly higher balance of non performing and classified loans and a small increase in the outstanding balance of loans held for investment. The allowance for credit losses to gross loans held for investment increased 5 basis points to 66 basis points at December 31, 2024 as compared to 61 basis points at September 30, 2024. Our net interest margin increased to 2.91% for the quarter ended December 31, 2024, compared to 2.84% for the sequential quarter ended September 30, 2024. The net result of a 3 basis point increase in the average yield on total interest earning assets and a 5 basis point decrease in the cost of total interest bearing liabilities.

Donavon Ternes
President & CEO at Provident Financial

Notably, our average cost of deposits declined to 123 basis points, down by 4 basis points for the quarter ended December 31, 2024, compared to no change in the prior sequential quarter. In addition, our cost of borrowing decreased by 21 basis points in the December 2024 quarter, compared to the September 2024 quarter. The net interest margin this quarter was negatively impacted by approximately 2 basis points as a result of higher net deferred loan costs associated with loan payoffs in the December 2024 quarter compared to the average net deferred loan cost amortization of the previous 5 quarters. New loan production is being originated at higher mortgage interest rates than the weighted average of the existing loan portfolio, but some of our adjustable rate loans may be re pricing at interest rates that are lower than their current interest rates. For example, we have approximately $124,300,000 of loans repricing in the March 2025 quarter to an interest rate currently forecast to be 5 basis points lower to a weighted average interest rate of 7.51% from 7.56%.

Donavon Ternes
President & CEO at Provident Financial

Conversely, we also have approximately $96,300,000 of loans repricing in the June 2025 quarter to an interest rate currently forecast to be 57 basis points higher to a weighted average interest rate of 7.35 percent from 6.78%. I would point out that there is tremendous opportunity to reprice maturing wholesale funding downward as a result of current market conditions where interest rates have moved lower across all terms. Excluding overnight borrowings, we have approximately $85,500,000 of Federal Home Loan Bank Advances and Brokered Certificates of Deposits maturing in the March 2025 quarter at a weighted average interest rate of 4.50%. Given market conditions, we would expect to reprice these maturities to a lower weighted average cost of funds. All of this suggests a continued expansion of the net interest margin in the March 2025 quarter, but at a slower pace than that experienced in the current quarter.

Donavon Ternes
President & CEO at Provident Financial

We continue to look for operating efficiencies throughout the company to lower operating expenses. Our FTE count at December 31, 2024 increased to 162 compared to 160 on the same date last year. You will note that operating expenses were $7,800,000 in the December 2025 quarter, an increase from

Donavon Ternes
President & CEO at Provident Financial

the

Donavon Ternes
President & CEO at Provident Financial

$7,500,000 in the September 2024 quarter. The increase over the expected run rate of $7,500,000 was due to non recurring or intermittent expenses, particularly the $100,000 of executive search agency costs and $167,000 of retirement plan benefit expenses that are not anticipated in future periods. As a result, for fiscal 2025, we continue to expect a run rate of approximately $7,500,000 per quarter. Our short term strategy for balance sheet management is somewhat more growth oriented than last fiscal year. We believe that disciplined growth of the loan portfolio is the best course of action at this time as we recognize that the Federal Open Market Committee has recalibrated the looser monetary policy and the inverted yield curve has begun to reverse back to an upwardly sloping yield curve.

Donavon Ternes
President & CEO at Provident Financial

We were partly successful in the execution of the strategy this quarter with loan origination volume at the high end of the quarterly range and loan prepayments similar to the prior sequential quarter. The composition of total interest earning assets improved with a higher percentage of loans receivable to total interest earning assets and a lower percentage of interest of investment securities to total interest earning assets. Although the composition of total interest bearing liabilities deteriorated with a decrease in the average balance of deposits and an increase in the average balance of borrowings. We exceed well capitalized capital ratios by a significant margin allowing us to execute on our business plan and capital management goals without complications. We believe that maintaining our cash dividend is very important.

Donavon Ternes
President & CEO at Provident Financial

We also recognize that prudent capital returns to shareholders through stock buyback programs is a responsible capital management tool and we repurchased approximately 64,000 shares of common stock in the December 2024 quarter. For the fiscal year to date, we have distributed approximately $1,900,000 of cash dividends to shareholders and repurchased approximately $2,400,000 worth of common stock through our stock repurchase plan. Accordingly, our capital management activities have resulted in a 154% distribution of fiscal 2025 net income to date. You should also note that the Board of Directors approved a new stock repurchase plan last week. We encourage everyone to review our December 31 investor presentation posted on our website.

Donavon Ternes
President & CEO at Provident Financial

You will find that we included slides regarding financial metrics, asset quality and capital management, which we believe will give you additional insight on our solid financial foundation, supporting the future growth of the company. Bella, we will now entertain any questions that participants may have regarding our financial results.

Operator

Your first question comes from the line of Andrew Liesch of Piper Sandler. Your line is now open. Please go ahead.

Andrew Liesch
Andrew Liesch
MD & Senior Research Analyst at Piper Sandler Companies

Thanks. Good morning.

Donavon Ternes
President & CEO at Provident Financial

Good morning.

Andrew Liesch
Andrew Liesch
MD & Senior Research Analyst at Piper Sandler Companies

Donovan, question on the loan growth commentary here. It seems like production is going to be again towards the higher end.

Andrew Liesch
Andrew Liesch
MD & Senior Research Analyst at Piper Sandler Companies

I guess if you look out, I mean, is this going to be like this maybe 50 to 60 basis points a quarter? How do you think or when do you think growth can accelerate from this path? What needs to happen for that to

Andrew Liesch
Andrew Liesch
MD & Senior Research Analyst at Piper Sandler Companies

occur?

Donavon Ternes
President & CEO at Provident Financial

Well, ultimately mortgage interest rates need to decline from current levels to see large acceleration with respect to growth in the loan portfolio. Although the flip side of that, if we do see lower mortgage interest rates, we would also expect more loan prepayments with respect to refinance activity. So I think this quarter was approximately a 1.9% annual growth rate with respect to the loan portfolio. We would like to see that percentage grow as we look down the second half of our fiscal year and as we look toward our new fiscal year beginning July 1.

Donavon Ternes
President & CEO at Provident Financial

Certainly, we think there's more opportunity in calendar 2025 with respect to growth than what we've seen in the past. And part of that is as well a flattening and upwardly sloping yield curve where it makes more sense for us to be more aggressive with respect to what it is we are doing in populating loan growth than when the curve was inverted and it didn't make as much sense for us to be populating loan growth.

Andrew Liesch
Andrew Liesch
MD & Senior Research Analyst at Piper Sandler Companies

Got it. That makes sense. And then on the margin, now that picking up the yield curve, it seems like there's still quite a bit of opportunities on the funding side. And you have some fixed rate assets that might be adjusting higher or reaching their adjust period. Should that trend continue?

Andrew Liesch
Andrew Liesch
MD & Senior Research Analyst at Piper Sandler Companies

I mean, maybe we don't see 7 basis points of expansion but should the margin be in an uptrend here from now on unless we see something different from the Fed?

Donavon Ternes
President & CEO at Provident Financial

Yes, I think we've reached that inflection point. In the September quarter, we expanded margin by 10 basis points. In the December quarter, we expanded margin by 7 basis points. We would anticipate that margin will expand in future quarters as well. The interesting component that is a little bit different today than it was in the September and the December quarters, those loans that we are expecting to reprice in the March quarter are being forecast to reprice downward by 5 basis points.

Donavon Ternes
President & CEO at Provident Financial

In the December and the September quarters, the loans that were re pricing were actually re pricing up from their current interest rates. So that's a flat or a little bit of a headwind with respect to margin. But on the flip side of that, our interest bearing liabilities as we described $85,500,000 of wholesale funding should be repricing downward in the March quarter. It's currently or those liabilities are currently priced at 4.5 percent and we think we can reprice those liabilities into the high threes or low fours. So there's still a tailwind with respect to our funding costs as it relates to net interest margin.

Donavon Ternes
President & CEO at Provident Financial

But there's not as much of a tailwind as it relates to the loan portfolio and what is going on with repricing there. Although again, as we described the June quarter, we actually see and can forecast the loan portfolio adjusting upward. So perhaps it swings to a tailwind again in the June quarter.

Andrew Liesch
Andrew Liesch
MD & Senior Research Analyst at Piper Sandler Companies

Got it. Yes, makes sense. All right. Thanks for taking the questions. I'll step back.

Operator

I will now turn the call back over to Donovan Turnes for closing remarks.

Donavon Ternes
President & CEO at Provident Financial

Well, I'd like to thank everybody for joining our call this quarter. And I look forward to our call next quarter. Thank you very much.

Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, that concludes today's call. Thank you all for joining. You may now disconnect.

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