monday.com Q4 2024 Earnings Report $3.37 -2.00 (-37.24%) As of 01:22 PM Eastern Earnings HistoryForecast Applied Digital EPS ResultsActual EPS$0.50Consensus EPS $0.78Beat/MissMissed by -$0.28One Year Ago EPSN/AApplied Digital Revenue ResultsActual RevenueN/AExpected Revenue$261.34 millionBeat/MissN/AYoY Revenue GrowthN/AApplied Digital Announcement DetailsQuarterQ4 2024Date2/10/2025TimeBefore Market OpensConference Call DateMonday, February 10, 2025Conference Call Time8:30AM ETConference Call ResourcesConference Call AudioConference Call TranscriptSlide DeckPress Release (8-K)Annual Report (20-F)Earnings HistoryAPLD ProfileSlide DeckFull Screen Slide DeckPowered by monday.com Q4 2024 Earnings Call TranscriptProvided by QuartrFebruary 10, 2025 ShareLink copied to clipboard.PresentationSkip to Participants Operator00:00:00Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for standing by. My name is Desiree, and I will be your conference operator today. At this time, I would like to welcome everyone to the monday.com Fourth Quarter Fiscal Year 20 20 4 Earnings Conference Call. All lines have been placed on mute to prevent any background noise. After today's remarks, there will be a question and answer session. Operator00:00:31I would now like to turn the conference over to Byron Steeson, Vice President of Investor Relations. You may begin. Byron StephenDirector of Investor Relations at monday.com00:00:39Hello, everyone, and thank you for joining us on today's conference call to discuss the financial results for monday.com's fourth quarter and fiscal year twenty twenty four. Joining me today are Roy Mann and Aaron Zimmerman, Co CEOs of monday.com and Elrond Glaser, monday dot com's CFO. We released our results for the fourth quarter and fiscal twenty twenty four earlier today. You can find our quarterly shareholder letter along with our investor presentation and a replay of today's webcast under the News and Events section of our IR website at ir.monday.com. Certain statements made on the call today will be forward looking statements, which reflect management's best judgment based on currently available information. Byron StephenDirector of Investor Relations at monday.com00:01:18These statements involve risks and uncertainties that may cause actual results to differ from our expectations. Please refer to our earnings release for more information on the specific factors that could cause actual results to differ materially from our forward looking statements. Additionally, non GAAP financial measures will be discussed on the call. Reconciliations to the most directly comparable GAAP financial measures are available in the earnings release and the earnings presentation for today's call, which are posted on our Investor Relations website. Now, let me turn the call over to Roy. Roy MannCo-Founder & Co-CEO at monday.com00:01:50Thank you, Byron, and thank you, everyone, for joining us today. We closed out Q4 on a high note, capping off an incredible year. 2024 has been a period of transformation and growth with our business reaching new heights across every area. We've made substantial progress in solidifying our market leadership while driving innovation to meet the evolving needs of our customers. A major milestone this year was reaching $1,000,000,000 in annual recurring revenue, underscoring the strength of our WorkOS platform and the increasing demand of our solutions. Roy MannCo-Founder & Co-CEO at monday.com00:02:28Our financial performance was equally exceptional in 2024. We achieved record operating margins and delivered record free cash flow, reflecting both the efficiency of our business and the scalability of our model. Total revenue in Q4 came in at $268,000,000 up 32% from a year ago quarter and $972,000,000 in FY 2024 up 33% from the prior year. On the product front, we continue to make considerable progress in our multi product strategy. Monday CRM has exceeded expectations and we added a record number of net new accounts for both CRM and dev during the year. Roy MannCo-Founder & Co-CEO at monday.com00:03:12We were also proud to be recognized as a leader in the Gartner Magic Quadrant in three different categories. This recognition further validates our strategy and our continued commitment to delivering value to our customers. In 2024, we made a significant strides in our AI development, unveiling several new capabilities, including AI blocks. Since AI was integrated into the Mande platform, users have performed approximately 10,000,000 AI actions. This ongoing progress highlights our commitment to enhancing the user experience and driving greater efficiency through innovating AI solutions. Roy MannCo-Founder & Co-CEO at monday.com00:03:52One of the most significant milestones of 2024 was our strategic expansion into the enterprise market. Roy MannCo-Founder & Co-CEO at monday.com00:03:58We successfully grew our Roy MannCo-Founder & Co-CEO at monday.com00:03:58largest seat count to 80,000 seats, signaling strong grew our largest seat count to 80,000 seats, signaling strong adoption and deepening enterprise customer engagement. All this enterprise expansion would not have been possible without MongoDB, our data architecture. In 2024, we completed the latest phase of MongoDB, MongoDB two point zero, enhancing the platform scalability to support larger, more complex use cases. As we look ahead to 2025, we remain focused on continuing this momentum, building on our achievement and further expanding our reach and impact with front foundation in place, we are excited for the opportunities to come. Let me now turn it over to Eran to walk you through some of the product highlights of this quarter. Eran ZinmanCo-Founder & Co-CEO at monday.com00:04:46Thank you, Roy. We're excited to announce that Monday Service is now officially available to all customers. Monday Service is an AI first enterprise service management solution that helps service teams deliver exceptional support faster through smart AI powered automations. Initial customer demand has been very strong with Mande service already showing the highest cross sell of our new product and the highest ACV of the entire Mande product suite. As Roy mentioned, we have been very busy on the AI front. Eran ZinmanCo-Founder & Co-CEO at monday.com00:05:20To make AI more accessible, we've introduced a flexible consumption based pricing model for AI blocks, offering a baseline level of free usage for all plans. For organization with larger AI needs, additional usage can be purchased at different levels. In 2025, our AI strategy will be focused on three main areas: AI blocks, product power ups and digital workforce. AI blocks will be extended to provide more advanced ways to automate tasks. Through product Power Ups, AI will be deeply integrated into each product to address specific user needs. Eran ZinmanCo-Founder & Co-CEO at monday.com00:05:59And finally, the digital workforce will include AI agents like Monday Expert, Deal Facilitator and Service Analyzer, which will offer actionable insights and streamline processes for users. Looking ahead to 2025, we have a lot to be excited about. Our momentum is stronger than ever, positioning us for continued growth and innovation. The success this year would not have been possible without education and talent of the Money.comteam. In 2024, we increased our workforce by 35%, bringing our total employee ad count to over 2,500 and expect strong hiring in 2025. Eran ZinmanCo-Founder & Co-CEO at monday.com00:06:42As we move forward, we remain focused on investing in our people, delivering exceptional value to our customers and driving sustainable long term growth for our shareholders. With that, I'll now turn over to Eliran to cover our financial and guidance. Eliran GlazerCFO at monday.com00:06:58Thank you, Eliran, and thank you to everyone for joining our call. Today, I'll review our fourth quarter and full year 2024 results in detail and provide initial fiscal year '20 '20 '5 guidance. As Roy mentioned, 2024 was an exceptionally strong year. Total revenue in Q4 came in at $268,000,000 up 32% from the year ago quarter and $972,000,000 in fiscal year twenty twenty four, up 32% from the prior year. Overall NDR increased to 112% in Q4. Eliran GlazerCFO at monday.com00:07:29We expect NDR to remain stable throughout 2025. As a reminder, our NDR is a trailing fourth quarter weighted average calculation. For the reminder of the financial metrics disclosed, unless otherwise noted, I will be referencing non GAAP financial measures. We have provided a reconciliation of GAAP to non GAAP financials in our earnings release. Fourth quarter gross margin was 89 percent. Eliran GlazerCFO at monday.com00:07:53In the medium to long term, we continue to expect gross margin to remain in the high 80s range. Research and development expense was $48,100,000 in Q4 or 18% of revenue, up from 16% in the year ago quarter and 162,700,000 in fiscal year twenty twenty four or 17% of revenue, up from 16% in the prior year. Sales and marketing expense was $127,800,000 in Q4 or 48% of revenue compared to 54% in the year ago quarter and $499,700,000 in fiscal year twenty twenty four or 51% of revenue compared to 57% in the prior year. Net income was $57,300,000 in Q4 twenty twenty four, up from $33,700,000 in Q4 twenty twenty three. For fiscal year twenty twenty four, net income was $183,300,000 up from $94,900,000 Diluted net income per share was 1.08 in Q4 and $3.5 in fiscal year twenty twenty four based on $52,900,000 and $52,400,000 fully diluted shares outstanding respectively. Eliran GlazerCFO at monday.com00:09:05Total employee headcount was 2,508, an increase of two zero three employees since Q3. We expect to grow headcount by approximately 30% in fiscal year twenty twenty five with heavier investment in the first half of the year as we continue to ramp up hiring for our sales, R and D and product teams. Moving on to the balance sheet and cash flow, we ended the quarter with $1,410,000,000 in cash and cash equivalents, up from $1,340,000,000 at the end of Q3. Free cash flow for Q4 was $72,700,000 and free cash flow margin as defined as free cash flow as a percentage of revenue was 27%. In fiscal year twenty twenty four, free cash flow was $295,800,000 and free cash flow margin was 30%. Eliran GlazerCFO at monday.com00:09:52We remain on target to meet our Investor Day goal of generating over $1,000,000,000 in free cash flow from fiscal year twenty twenty three to fiscal year twenty twenty six. Free cash flow is defined as net cash from operating activities, less cash used for property and equipment and capitalized software costs. Now let's turn to our updated outlook for fiscal year twenty twenty five. For the first quarter of fiscal year twenty twenty five, we expect our revenue to be in the range of $274,000,000 to $276,000,000 representing growth of 26% to twenty seven percent year over year. We expect non GAAP operating income of $25,000,000 to $27,000,000 and an operating margin of 9% to 10%. Eliran GlazerCFO at monday.com00:10:36For the full year 2025, we expect revenue to be in the range of $12.00 $8,000,000,000 to $1,221,000,000 dollars representing growth of 24% to 26% year over year. This forecast assumes a negative impact from FX of 100 basis points to 200 basis points. We expect full year non GAAP operating income of $134,000,000 to $142,000,000 and an operating margin of 11% to 12%. We expect full year free cash flow of $300,000,000 to $3.00 $8,000,000 and free cash flow margin of approximately 25%. Let me now turn it over to the operator for your questions. Operator00:11:20Thank you. We will now begin the question and answer session. And our first question comes from the line of Pindjalim Bora with JPMorgan. Your line is open. Pinjalim BoraExecutive Director at JP Morgan00:12:05Great. Hey, thank you for taking the questions and congrats on a strong quarter. I want to start with AI. It seems like your AI capabilities are seeing really strong momentum on AI actions. You introduced some AI credits. Pinjalim BoraExecutive Director at JP Morgan00:12:22Maybe help us understand how these AI credits are supposed to work. Seems like 500 is in the plan. What is how is that going to consume? Is that per AI action? How are you defining an action? Pinjalim BoraExecutive Director at JP Morgan00:12:37And if somebody wants to buy more, what does that pricing look like? Roy MannCo-Founder & Co-CEO at monday.com00:12:44Hi, it's Roy. Thank you for the question. So what we wanted to do with this different pricing of consumption is that everyone can use it, like all our customer base. And essentially, we have like a starting plan, like you said, post 500. And action is everything that AI does within our platform, like a summary, like doing any kind of action on the board. Roy MannCo-Founder & Co-CEO at monday.com00:13:15So essentially, if you create a workflow, you can use a lot of AI actions to build a complete workflow and really automate things in a way you couldn't before. And as you progress and use it more and more in a consumption model, we have different plans that you can purchase more actions. Pinjalim BoraExecutive Director at JP Morgan00:13:37Yes, understood. Okay. Eliran, one question on guidance. The constant currency guide seems very strong, seems like about 26% or over 26% at the high end. Can you talk about some of those assumptions because you were seeing a little bit of a choppiness around macro in Europe. Pinjalim BoraExecutive Director at JP Morgan00:13:53How did that progress? What are you assuming for the guide? What are you assuming on pricing benefit? And then lastly, how should we think of contribution from kind of non core, non CWM products for 2025? Thank you. Eliran GlazerCFO at monday.com00:14:11Sure, Pindjalind. So with regards to 2025 guidance, what we took into account is, first of all, we saw a consistent demand trend across all regions. The U. S. Demand is very healthy. Eliran GlazerCFO at monday.com00:14:24The rest of the world, including Europe and Middle East, is stabilizing compared to what we have seen in November. We took into account the fact that NDR remains stable at 112%. We expected negative FX impact, as you stated, because of the geopolitical and strong dollar versus the other currencies. 65% of our revenue or ARR is U. S. Eliran GlazerCFO at monday.com00:14:48Dollar based in terms of reporting. So we estimated around 100 to 200 basis points based on calculations that we have done. We took into account the growth of 30% in headcount in 2025. And we didn't take into account, for example, your prior questions, any revenue from AI is still early days to take it into account. And mostly, when we think about product, there is becoming CRM is becoming more significant in terms of the contribution to the ARR. Eliran GlazerCFO at monday.com00:15:20So we already took it into account. Service is still just out of beta contributing small amount of revenue, but it's growing really fast. And they have pretty much also took into account certain contribution. But overall, we see the trends that I mentioned as part of our 2025 guidance assumption. Pinjalim BoraExecutive Director at JP Morgan00:15:42Anything on the pricing benefit, Elioram? Eliran GlazerCFO at monday.com00:15:46On the pricing, so what we have said last year that we estimate between 2024 to 2026, dollars '80 million contribution. The way we looked at it was around $30,000,000 in fiscal year twenty twenty four, around $40,000,000 in fiscal year twenty twenty five that is already baked into the guidance and also there is going to be about $10,000,000 in 2026, because pricing will be rolled out by July 2025. This is where we're going to end the kind of pricing rolled out that we have done starting last year. Pinjalim BoraExecutive Director at JP Morgan00:16:17Thank you very much. Operator00:16:22And our next question comes from the line of Alex Zukin with Wolfe Research. Your line is open. Alex ZukinAnalyst at Wolfe Research LLC00:16:29Yes. Hey guys, congratulations on another a great order. I guess maybe back to the pendulum question. If you look at what happened in the quarter for you guys with respect to Europe and The U. S, kind of what actually transpired in the month of December? Alex ZukinAnalyst at Wolfe Research LLC00:16:50And as you think about the pipeline and specifically on the enterprise, did you see it being more seasonally weighted? Did you see kind of the any impacts from the changing competitive landscape? Kind of walk us through a little bit of the shape of the demand curve in the quarter and what it's telling you about as you really head into next year? Eran ZinmanCo-Founder & Co-CEO at monday.com00:17:13Yes. Hi, Alex. This is Arun. So, yes, like as Leroy mentioned, The U. S. Eran ZinmanCo-Founder & Co-CEO at monday.com00:17:20Demand has been pretty much healthy and stable throughout November and January and December. Outside The U. S, like we stated, we saw a little bit of choppiness in November, but right now judging what we've seen, including Europe as well, we see signs of stabilization. So that is great to see, give us a lot of confidence going forward. Like Oliver mentioned, there's some FX impact, but apart from that, that's kind of the environment that we're seeing going forward. Eran ZinmanCo-Founder & Co-CEO at monday.com00:17:51Overall, I would say that growth retention continue to be at record levels, so very strong growth retention and NDR as well. Enterprise has been our fastest growing segment and it continues to be like that. And we see the growth accelerated in the enterprise segment as well. So judging all those parameters together, it feels healthy and it feels like we are on track to fill our plans for 2025. Eliran GlazerCFO at monday.com00:18:21Maybe I would just Alex, this is Rian. Maybe just adding to Iran, something that we have said left here. As we see a transition in the business from PLG to SLG motion, we're also starting to see the results of each quarter coming in the back end of the quarter. So So going into December, like we used to see a more kind of flat in the prior years. Now there is also skewed it's skewed towards the end of each quarter. Eliran GlazerCFO at monday.com00:18:45So we have seen good signs in December when we compared to what we've seen in November back in Europe, Middle East last year. Alex ZukinAnalyst at Wolfe Research LLC00:18:54Perfect. And then with respect to the guidance guys, I'm not going to ask you about price, but what I'm going to ask you about is just given how much stronger the guidance looks I think to what some people were expecting. Maybe just walk us through, A, how are you thinking about the conservatism and the prudence given changing go to market dynamics from a talent perspective this year, as well as just how many products you have from service to AI blocks to CRM to dev. How are you thinking about or layering more importantly in those assumptions into this guide relative to previous years? And thank you guys. Eliran GlazerCFO at monday.com00:19:35Yes. So sure, Alex. So I will repeat what I said to Pindjalim. So first of all, maybe one thing worth mentioning that this year I think is more unpredictable when you compare it to prior years. The geopolitical situation across the world is to a certain extent there are some things that you can't really predict. Eliran GlazerCFO at monday.com00:19:54So this is also something that we took into account as part of our guidance. To your question on product, we have four products on the platform with now service being out of data, Monday Dev, Monday CRM and Monday Work Management. So this is something that obviously we took into account. NDR continues to be stable at 11012%, sorry. The new products will contribute a certain amount of revenue, it's growing. Eliran GlazerCFO at monday.com00:20:23But other than CRM that is now becoming more significant, we will see the results of the other product next year. So when we took all this into account, bear in mind that we also increased headcount last year in 35% and now we see the full impact of this hiring last year. So we try to have a prudent, I don't know what to call it conservative or not. This is a responsible guidance based on what we know today. Operator00:20:54And our next question comes from the line of Arjun Bhatia with William Blair. Your line is open. Arjun BhatiaAnalyst at William Blair00:21:01Perfect. Thank you guys. And I'll add my congrats, very nice end to the year here. One thing, Roy, around that stuck out in your shareholder letter in regards to service, I think you called out that it's the highest ACV across your product line that you're seeing. I understand I know I think it's still a small customer count given how early it is. Arjun BhatiaAnalyst at William Blair00:21:23But can you walk through what the drivers there are? Like are you selling this product to larger customers? Are there more add ons? What makes service higher ACV? And should we expect that to continue as customer count grows for that product? Eran ZinmanCo-Founder & Co-CEO at monday.com00:21:42Yes. Hi, Arjun. It's Eran. So yes, I think it's a combination of a few things. One is we see every product I would say has a different go to market. Eran ZinmanCo-Founder & Co-CEO at monday.com00:21:55But one thing that really stood out with Manda service is that it feels like there's a big overlap between our existing customer base and the potential customer base for service. So relatively to other products, we see more momentum with cross sell to begin with. It's still low numbers, but just percentage wise, it feels like there's a big overlap between the audiences, of who we already have as a customer and people that are interested in managed service. And that led to more mature customers buying into managed service. Also it's a more of a top down decision process. Eran ZinmanCo-Founder & Co-CEO at monday.com00:22:28So we have management kind of involved in the process, which ultimately if you combine those two things leads to higher ACV deals, more top down deals. And it just feels like it had a lot of potential to grow into a more kind of mature ACV mid market enterprise going forward business. Arjun BhatiaAnalyst at William Blair00:22:52All right. That's very helpful. Thank you. And then maybe to follow-up, just when I'm looking at, I think some of the annual customer count disclosures you've given and if I look at Q4, I think net customer adds for CRM and dev, it's the only thing that looks like there's a little bit of a slowdown. Can you just help us understand what's going on there? Arjun BhatiaAnalyst at William Blair00:23:14Is that mostly your move upmarket and greater focus on cross sell? Or is there something else on the net new customer front that we should be reading into? Eliran GlazerCFO at monday.com00:23:25So Arjun, just want to make sure that I understood the question. You relate to the total number of customer or you speak about CRM and Dev? Just want to make sure that I follow the question. Arjun BhatiaAnalyst at William Blair00:23:34Yes, thanks, Arun. It's a little bit of both. Maybe I think the total customer number also slowed compared to twenty twenty three or sorry, 2023 and then in Q4 CRM and dev. I'm trying to maybe encompass all of it in one question. Eliran GlazerCFO at monday.com00:23:50Sure. So in terms of total number of customers, we are now at 245,000 customers, which is more than I think most of our peers. And we have said in the past few times, we are going to focus on expanding within existing customer base, going up market. And we said that we are going to probably grow high single digits within the total number of customers. With regards to CRM and dev, this is related mainly to seasonality of performance marketing spend. Eliran GlazerCFO at monday.com00:24:19In Q4, usually in Q4 of the year due to the holidays that are coming at the end of the year, customer acquisition channel spend is usually lower than what we are doing before that. And it's similar to prior year, we allocate more budgets to Performance Marketing spend at the beginning of the year because we want to get the full impact of the performance rather than the second half of the year. So this is, I would say, the main reason for the numbers that you have seen. Arjun BhatiaAnalyst at William Blair00:24:50Okay, got it. Very clear. Thank you. Operator00:24:54Next question from Steve Enders with Citi. Your line is open. Steven EndersAnalyst at Citigroup00:25:00Okay, great. Thanks for taking the questions here. I guess maybe just to start, I want to ask on some of the, I guess, enterprise sales changes that are going on. I know that CRO left last quarter and it sounds like maybe there's some other changes. But I guess how are you kind of thinking about how that search is going? Steven EndersAnalyst at Citigroup00:25:23How you're thinking about kind of future changes in the go to market structure or strategy within that? Just any more color or details around that would be helpful. Eran ZinmanCo-Founder & Co-CEO at monday.com00:25:35Yes. Hi, Steven. This is Aran. So, yes, definitely we're looking for a new CRO. We've been pretty invested in the process. Eran ZinmanCo-Founder & Co-CEO at monday.com00:25:45Hopefully, we're kind of looking to finalize this process by by the end of Q2. We're looking for a person with a proven track record and deep understanding of the complexities of scaling our market. I can share that we see great candidates and hopefully, we'll get somebody across the finish line in the next few months. I would say that given all that in the last few months, we've seen great results from the CRO organization. You can see that with the enterprise adds and overall momentum feels good. Eran ZinmanCo-Founder & Co-CEO at monday.com00:26:17So definitely looking for a replacement, but so far the management within the organization is doing phenomenal work to drive results forward. Steven EndersAnalyst at Citigroup00:26:29Okay, great. That's great to hear. I guess maybe following up on that, it sounds like there's maybe even some catch up spend in that kind of organization and further kind of investments coming from a headcount perspective this year. Just I guess what is it that you're seeing out there maybe that's leading to the confidence to kind of invest behind that? And just kind of what are you kind of seeing in the pipeline that leads to, yes, the confidence to fully back that motion? Eran ZinmanCo-Founder & Co-CEO at monday.com00:27:04Yes. So this is Arun again. So yes, definitely we continue to invest into the sales org. Overall between sales and channel partners managers, our total quota carriers have grown to almost 400, three 90 five by the end of Q4. It's a significant increase Q over Q. Eran ZinmanCo-Founder & Co-CEO at monday.com00:27:24Overall, we feel confident scaling the organization for a few reasons. First, we see the results and we see that we have a lot of potential for expansion within our existing customer base. We have those additional products. That's amazing fuel for our sales team. Our existing customers are scaling more to the enterprise. Eran ZinmanCo-Founder & Co-CEO at monday.com00:27:44MongoDB was a big unlock for enterprise customers to scale even further. So it just feels that within our own customer base, there's a lot of potential for growth and we can add even more account managers to expand our customer base. And also performance marketing continue to be strong and we've seen great demand, not just across Works Management, but across the other products as well. So if you put all those things together, it just feels that it's very healthy to increase the sales organization. We see the ROI for that and we continue to do that in 2025. Steven EndersAnalyst at Citigroup00:28:17Okay, perfect. Great to hear. Thanks for taking the question. Operator00:28:24Next question comes from the line of Gilead Nastalovich with Goldman Sachs. Your line is open. Gili NaftalovichAnalyst at Goldman Sachs00:28:31Hi, good morning everybody. It's Gilead on for Kash. Thanks for taking the question. I have one for Roy and Aran and maybe a follow-up if I can. First, maybe if you can talk about AI, right? Gili NaftalovichAnalyst at Goldman Sachs00:28:43It's so central to the top three pillars you laid out as your strategic priorities in 2025. I'd love to get your perspective on how you see the AI landscape evolving over the next few years. What do you envision this meaning for Monday? Like how do you believe the engagement with the platform may change? And how are you positioning the company to take this opportunity? Roy MannCo-Founder & Co-CEO at monday.com00:29:05Yes. Hi, Dilip, it's Roy. So when we look at AI and where Monday plays in it, we feel we have a huge power of democratizing it, meaning really giving the power to people to build whatever they want to harness AI into their business, into improving efficiency. And that's what we're doing and that's the feedback we get from the beta we have with Blocks and what we've seen customers do. And going forward, this is what we're planning to go for next in the vision to actually give people technology they can use and they can implement like right off the bat and that it's easy and fun to use. Gili NaftalovichAnalyst at Goldman Sachs00:29:54Yes, very clear. And so the second question I had was a little bit more on the record number of net new CRM and dev accounts that you mentioned you are able to add this quarter. Can you talk about what drove that momentum? Is this a leading indicator or byproduct of the headcount growth that you guys saw this year? Or is it a result of maybe a multitude of different factors? Eran ZinmanCo-Founder & Co-CEO at monday.com00:30:18Yes. I think overall we're very happy with the this is Aran with the ads of customers both in CRM and Dev. I would say that compared to Q3, Q4 was a little bit slower and we mentioned that because of performance marketing seasonality. But going to 2025, we definitely see the momentum continues with both of those products. I would say that in both, we invested more into going off market in each one of those products adding more features and functionality, which will also contribute not just to the total number of customers, but to higher ACV in both. Eran ZinmanCo-Founder & Co-CEO at monday.com00:30:57So that's kind of what we focused on right now going forward. Operator00:31:07Next question comes from the line of Brent Thill with Jefferies. Your line is open. Brent ThillTech Sector Leader, Software/Internet Research at Jefferies Financial Group00:31:13Thanks. Just back on the hiring front, when you think about quota carrying sales rep hiring versus the stated goal of 30% total growth, are you growing your reps at or below or above that line? And then when you mentioned three ninety five quota reps, can you just update us what that growth was for '24 over '23? And just give us a sense of what you're seeing from a higher end perspective? Eran ZinmanCo-Founder & Co-CEO at monday.com00:31:45Yes. Hi, Brent. This is Arant. So for the first part of your question, the year over year growth in terms of total quota carriers is about 26%, so a little bit below the overall 30% that you mentioned. We plan to ramp up hiring for sales into the first half of twenty twenty five. Eran ZinmanCo-Founder & Co-CEO at monday.com00:32:06So this is kind of the plan going forward for 2025. Just a year ago in Q4 of twenty twenty three, we had about three thirteen total quarter carriers. So now almost 400. So that's a significant growth in the last year. Brent ThillTech Sector Leader, Software/Internet Research at Jefferies Financial Group00:32:24Okay, great. And now with service added in, when you think about the packaging, the go to market kind of the as you move to enterprise these we've seen larger companies do these ELAs or bundles. I mean, how are you thinking about how your packaging is evolving to make it easier to consume the breadth of all these new solutions you're coming to market with? Eran ZinmanCo-Founder & Co-CEO at monday.com00:32:51Yes. So this is Aran. So look, I think going forward, definitely we see a future where we sell a bundle of products, definitely the ones that we see high percentages of cross sell. I think I mentioned this earlier, but I think what's unique with the Monday service release is that we see high percentage of cross sell. So that's definitely an indication from work management. Eran ZinmanCo-Founder & Co-CEO at monday.com00:33:15So that's definitely an indication for us that potentially work management and Manda service can be packaged together because for a lot of people a ticket or request is basically a beginning of a project or a workflow. So those two products really work well together. So going forward, we might sell those products in a bundle to begin with, but currently it's mostly focused on cross sell between existing customers. Brent ThillTech Sector Leader, Software/Internet Research at Jefferies Financial Group00:33:44Great. Thanks. Operator00:33:49Next question comes from the line of Brent Bracelin with Piper Sandler. Your line is open. Brent BracelinSr. Research Analyst at Piper Sandler Companies00:33:55Thank you. Good afternoon. Good morning. Wanted to double click in North America. It looks like growth in North America accelerated 200 basis points sequentially here, more than offsetting a decellular sign internationally. Brent BracelinSr. Research Analyst at Piper Sandler Companies00:34:11What drove the strength in North America? Are you seeing SMB optimism start to kind of drive activity? Is it more influenced by large enterprise expansions? Just walk through the strength that you saw in North America this quarter here and what drove that acceleration? Thanks. Eran ZinmanCo-Founder & Co-CEO at monday.com00:34:33Yes. Hi, Brian. This is Ron. So I think it's mostly been enterprise customers that are driving that. I mean, we mentioned that we had some choppiness in November in EMEA, but that seemed to be stabilized. Eran ZinmanCo-Founder & Co-CEO at monday.com00:34:45But I think overall, if we look at longer term trends, definitely in North America, our enterprise segment has been the strongest in terms of growth. And also we're reaching bigger and bigger customers. So that's definitely a very significant driver in that region. Eliran GlazerCFO at monday.com00:35:01Yes. Brent, this is Eliran also to let you run. I also think this is we are gaining market share. One of the things that we have seen last year is that we are basically we have a strong machine that works really well. There has been some changes in our competitive landscape, which allowed us actually to take market share to bring market share. Eliran GlazerCFO at monday.com00:35:21Some of our competitors also focused on enterprise. So it leaves the down market there to us in terms of SMBs and mid market. So overall, few trends that are actually pushing us into gaining more market share and increasing our footprint in North America. Brent BracelinSr. Research Analyst at Piper Sandler Companies00:35:38Great to see that. And then just as a follow-up here, I know historically sales, dev, these were largely new products that were landing new customers. I think you mentioned service, I know it was just kind of in beta here early release, but it was something like 60% cross sell of the service customers, which is very different than what you saw with that and sales. So can you just double click into maybe the cross sell? Why is service different? Brent BracelinSr. Research Analyst at Piper Sandler Companies00:36:12And are you starting to see broader cross sell opportunity across all platforms? Thanks. Eran ZinmanCo-Founder & Co-CEO at monday.com00:36:19Yes. So this is Arun. So overall, we see more cross sell between all products. But like I mentioned, there's a lot of synergy between Monday service and Monday work management, mainly because Monday service is usually the beginning of a process or workflow. So a lot of people kind of use Mongoose service to manage the requests and the admin around the requests and then kind of move on to actually executing the workflow. Eran ZinmanCo-Founder & Co-CEO at monday.com00:36:49I think that's a big benefit also in terms of the kind of our market position for customers, but also shows the strength of having multiple Monday products. It just feels like the overlap between the buyer for Works Management and the buyer from Monday services is very large compared to other products and the synergy between the products is very high as well. So that's what kind of drove the very high cross sell percentages that we've seen. Brent BracelinSr. Research Analyst at Piper Sandler Companies00:37:15Okay. So just to clarify, you're not seeing service and sales bundled and cross sell together, you're seeing service and work management more often? Eran ZinmanCo-Founder & Co-CEO at monday.com00:37:25Yes. I mean, we also see Monday Dev and Monday CRM as well, but just the percentages the services are way higher. Brent BracelinSr. Research Analyst at Piper Sandler Companies00:37:34Got it. Helpful. Thank you. Operator00:37:39Next question from Michael Berg with Wells Fargo. Your line is open. Michael BergAnalyst at Wells Fargo00:37:45Hi, congrats on the quarter and thanks for taking my question. I want to double click on service one more time. Maybe you could help us understand or price a little bit more color on what it looks like when you land with service initially. Are you landing alongside existing other service solutions? Are you displacing something? Michael BergAnalyst at Wells Fargo00:38:02Maybe you can help us understand what the customers have in place when you are landing, whether they are monday.com customers or not? Thank you. Eran ZinmanCo-Founder & Co-CEO at monday.com00:38:11Yes. Hi, this is Aran. So first of all, it's important to mention it's not just IT service. What we've seen from the product launch is that obviously we have IT service, but we have HR requests, operations, financial requests, marketing requests, customer support. So it's a variety of different departments within the organization. Eran ZinmanCo-Founder & Co-CEO at monday.com00:38:35In terms of competition, sometimes we land with another vendor and sometimes we are the only vendor. Sometimes we compete with other players in the market and win the deal. So I would say it's a combination of all the above. Mainly I think what we again, still early days, but from what we've talked with customers, they love the flexibility of the platform. I think all the big players in this industry have high degree of flexibility and this is something that we offer from the very beginning. Eran ZinmanCo-Founder & Co-CEO at monday.com00:39:03So the fact it's built on the Monde platform is a huge benefit. And also the fact that in a way, Monde for them is the centralized way to work. And because Monde service is so deeply integrated with Monde CRM and work management, it also give us a huge benefit over other players in the market. So that's kind of the dynamic we currently see. But as I've mentioned, it's still early days. Eran ZinmanCo-Founder & Co-CEO at monday.com00:39:27So I think as time goes by, we'll have more clarity around this. Michael BergAnalyst at Wells Fargo00:39:31Helpful. And then one quick follow-up for you, Elrond. On NRR, it inflected in the quarter in pretty much every metric. You talked about stabilization on the NRR moving forward. How can we think about the impact of price there and how that's baked into your comment for stabilization of that metric for 2025? Eliran GlazerCFO at monday.com00:39:52Sure, Michael. So in terms of just by way of reminding to everyone, we are reporting a weighted average of the last four quarters. So we said that growth retention has improved significantly. We have seen good trend last year of increasing numbers. So now we're starting to see the results of this. Eliran GlazerCFO at monday.com00:40:10And we said we're going to be last year, we said we're going to be slightly above 110. And 111, we will see the tick up as we start this year and this is what happens. We estimate that the pricing adjustment will positively be contributed around 100 basis points to the reported NDR in fiscal year twenty twenty five. Helpful. Thank you. Operator00:40:32Next question comes from the line of Michael Funk with Bank of America. Your line is open. Michael FunkAnalyst at Bank of America00:40:38Yes. Thank you for the questions this morning. Wanted to ask about the success with larger customers that you've seen recently. If you can just frame maybe the greater complexity of those deals, expansion prospects, may also come back to a comment you made earlier about market share gains and maybe some consolidation you might be seeing among the larger customers? Eliran GlazerCFO at monday.com00:41:02Sure, Michael. This is Elivan. So maybe again to take you a step back, we have started a process of improving the platform two years ago with MondayDB. So we had our plan to make sure that the platform is going to be scalable. We're going to address speed, performance and scale. Eliran GlazerCFO at monday.com00:41:24So we are now in the MongoDB 2.1, and we keep improving the infrastructure to allow bigger, larger customers to work on the platform. In addition to that, we hired people throughout the hiring process of prior year going into this year that are more familiar with selling to the enterprise customers in terms of mid market and enterprise, and this is a process that we continue to do. We invested in the depth of the product, not only on the breadth of the product, although we have Monday service. So all of that together, by the way, the acknowledgment of the market that Monday is indeed a platform that can be used within larger and larger customers. Also having in mind the fact that we took market share from competitors. Eliran GlazerCFO at monday.com00:42:11So we said that enterprise is our fastest growing business segment. The sales teams are performing well, particularly in The U. S. And you can also see the increase in 50,001 customers NDR that is related to large contract expansion with the enterprise customers. Of the above, all of the things that we have done over the past, I would say, two years, the investment in people, in technology, in product is something that is driving the business forward into the enterprise. Michael FunkAnalyst at Bank of America00:42:43Great. Thank you for Michael FunkAnalyst at Bank of America00:42:44the color. One more quickly, if I could. Again, just the backdrop of the strong net adds for CRM and in dev and your comments on the macro and adding more quota carrying reps, is there any reason to believe that net additions slow in 2025 for CRM and dev? Eran ZinmanCo-Founder & Co-CEO at monday.com00:43:06Yes, this is Aran. So look, it might slow a little bit. I mean, it's kind of hard to predict, but overall, we continue with strong momentum around performance margin. I would say that overall strategy, not just for CRM and Dev, but for the company itself is to go upmarket and have higher customer AC fees. So I would say that our product focus is not necessarily to add a lot of very small businesses, but rather to scale within our existing customers in CRM and DAS and bring larger customers. Eran ZinmanCo-Founder & Co-CEO at monday.com00:43:37So I would say definitely in terms of revenue and AR portion, we continue to accelerate in the product. It's just going to be a different mix between amount of customers and ACV going forward. Roy MannCo-Founder & Co-CEO at monday.com00:43:50Yes. Hi, Troy. Like I think to what Eran said, like the decision to make the price increase is also a decision towards that end, okay. We preferred larger customers, more entreat rather than increase the number of total customers. Michael FunkAnalyst at Bank of America00:44:06Great. Thank you for the questions. Operator00:44:16Our next question comes from the line of Tom Blakey with Cantor. Your line is open. Thomas BlakeyManaging Director at Cantor Fitzgerald00:44:22Hi, thanks for taking my question. I might have two here. The just going back to AI seeing this kind of parabolic increase in AI interactions, couple of clarifications and a longer term question. Is it safe to say that there was close to zero, if not zero, AI revenue in calendar twenty four? I think you mentioned you don't include any AI revenue in your calendar twenty five guide. Thomas BlakeyManaging Director at Cantor Fitzgerald00:44:49Just wondering what you're seeing in terms of that big uptick in interactions and what if you look out a little bit, where you think AI revenue could be at this company in the longer term? And I have a follow-up. Roy MannCo-Founder & Co-CEO at monday.com00:45:02Hi, it's Roy. So it's really too early to say because what we saw is increased usage and then you introduce pricing and then you want to see customer reactions and how they grow. So we didn't predict anything and we couldn't bake it in. Going forward, I think when we look at the market, we see like so many different pricing strategies for AI, some is for winning markets, some is for revenue. Like we feel confident in the blocks and usage of actions as addition value that customers are willing to pay for, but we'll have to wait and see how much this is true and what we can expect looking forward. Operator00:45:54And our first question comes from the line of Derek Wood with TD Cowen. Your line is open. Derrick WoodAnalyst at Cowen00:46:02Great. Thanks. Congrats on a strong quarter. And I wanted to talk about come back to the larger deal theme and you guys highlighted in the shareholder letter, you captured an 80,000 seat customer in 2024, which I know you've talked about previously. But could you talk about how you feel about the opportunity to see more multi thousand seat engagements in 2025 versus 2024? Derrick WoodAnalyst at Cowen00:46:26Just wondering if we can see a notable uptick in that kind of deal activity or if that will kind of be gradual over looking out over the next few years? Eliran GlazerCFO at monday.com00:46:36Sure, Derek. This is Eliran. So the way we do it is either we land bigger to begin with and then like a top down transaction that we are now seeing more and more. So this is one way to do it and we are the hiring in the sales organization, the changes that we are now doing in the sales organization, the profile are also contributing to that. And on the other end, we have customers that grew with us for a few years. Eliran GlazerCFO at monday.com00:47:01And once they unlock the value of the platform and we are adding additional products, they are doing consolidation on Monday. We are replacing other vendors in terms of switching. So the trend, I think this is something that we started to see, I would say, about a year and a half ago and now we're seeing more and more. And it comes with the growth of the platform, the additional product and the profile of the people that we have together with the acknowledgment of Monday as a solution that can address enterprise level solution needs. Operator00:47:39Next question comes from the line of Ittai Kidron with Oppenheimer. Your line is open. Ittai KidronSenior Equity Research Analyst at Oppenheimer & Co. Inc.00:47:45Thanks guys. I guess a couple of small ones for me. And following on Derek's question on the 80,000 seats, great to see the expansion there. Maybe you could give us a little bit more color on the breadth of 10 ks plus seat customers. How many of those are in the wild? Ittai KidronSenior Equity Research Analyst at Oppenheimer & Co. Inc.00:48:07And then second question is regarding AI. Do you see any risk of seed cannibalization with the adoption of your AI solutions? Thank you. Eran ZinmanCo-Founder & Co-CEO at monday.com00:48:19Yes. Hi, Tay, it's Ron. So look, I think like everyone mentioned, overall, we see definitely more potential for larger deals. We had those expansion also this quarter and we continue to have potential within our existing customer base for more deals like that. So it's kind of hard to predict because it's happening over a few quarters, but definitely something that might happen as well in 2025. Eran ZinmanCo-Founder & Co-CEO at monday.com00:48:48Regarding AI, so we made decision, like Roy mentioned, to base it based on consumption and not place on seats because it's kind of hard to predict the long term trends. But if AI can replace some manual work and automate some processes, we want people to be able to scale on that regardless of the fact that they're adding more people or not. So that made a lot of sense for us to base it to base the pricing based on consumption. So I don't think it will cannibalize the seat count that we have, but just offer different path of scalability for our customers based on usage and not necessarily people. Operator00:49:32Next question from D. J. Hynes with Canaccord. Your line is open. David Hynes Jr.Managing Director, Software Lead Analyst at Canaccord Genuity - Global Capital Markets00:49:37Hey guys. So on one David Hynes Jr.Managing Director, Software Lead Analyst at Canaccord Genuity - Global Capital Markets00:49:39of the slides in your deck, the slide is where do we want to go from here. It lists expanding core work product lines as a key initiative. So I guess that begs the big picture question like where does Monday go next? Any thoughts? Roy MannCo-Founder & Co-CEO at monday.com00:49:56Yes. Roy MannCo-Founder & Co-CEO at monday.com00:49:57So a general question, Roy. So one big thing is really deepening each one of our products into a suite. Like we took a conscious decision to deepen everything, like what Elidon mentioned, the platform itself, the scalability, robustness and that you can rely on it more and more, each one of our products, like we released in CRM, the marketing solution and we have like massive markets to go after. And so we want to deepen the offering. And then AI is also a huge thing. Roy MannCo-Founder & Co-CEO at monday.com00:50:39Blocks is one of them, but we're also embedding AI within each one of the products in a way that really accelerates the vision we have. Like in project management, it will help people turn all their portfolio into being way more predictable. For example, CRM sell more. And so we have a very clear roadmap of like giving the same value just more faster, better and deeper. Operator00:51:12Next question from Jackson Ader with KeyBanc Capital Markets. Your line is open. Jackson AderManaging Director at KeyBanc Capital Markets00:51:18Great. Thanks for taking our questions. Jackson AderManaging Director at KeyBanc Capital Markets00:51:21So my questions are around the sales led growth function. Just curious how you guys are managing the puts and takes on sales cycles as you begin to stack up multi product deals that might elongate some sales cycles and just make things generally more complex. So I'm curious about just the basic blocking and tackling you're doing around those sales cycles. And then the other thing is, what would be like the best indicator of the efficacy of the sales led growth motion that we should be kind of tuning into? Is there a way to split out maybe the enterprise customer lands versus existing customers or kind of graduates into that 50,000 or 100,000? Jackson AderManaging Director at KeyBanc Capital Markets00:52:05But yes, just some of the KPIs that we should all be looking out for to see if this sales led growth motion is really working out? Thank you. Eran ZinmanCo-Founder & Co-CEO at monday.com00:52:13Yes. Hi, Jackson, it's Arun. So regarding the first part of your question about the product, so definitely we put a lot of thought into this. So I would say it's a combination of a few things. One, we have customers landing for multiple marketing campaigns, some land for CRM products, some for work management, dev service, etcetera. Eran ZinmanCo-Founder & Co-CEO at monday.com00:52:35So right now the way it works, we have specialized teams for each one of those products that are handling new customers depending on the products that they chose. And we basically scale those things based on the demand that we see and just to scale the product. And then in addition to that, we have account managers that are already engaged with customers. And when they identify an opportunity for expansion, whether it's through our Big Brain system that identify new people joining the organization from other departments or whether it's by relationship and conversation, we have special functions called overlay, which basically helps them cross sell with people that specialize in those area, whether it's CRM or service and so on. And they help them close kind of initial deals with decision makers in the organization. Eran ZinmanCo-Founder & Co-CEO at monday.com00:53:27So we have different functions depending on the phase of the sales process that help go through this. And we're really kind of shaping that in terms of scale and just creating autonomy for them to kind of build their own sales strategy. And to the second part of the question about I think you mentioned about scaling the sales org and selling to larger enterprises. So also there we have AEs, account executives that close new deals for each segment. So we have some for SMBs, some for mid market and enterprise and it's a totally different sales process for each one. Eran ZinmanCo-Founder & Co-CEO at monday.com00:54:06And we have the same segmentation for account managers. So we really kind of segmented the business based on products and then based on company size. And for each one, we have different kind of dynamic in terms of the sales process and also the time it takes to close the deal. So this is kind of how we think about this now and obviously it will evolve over time. Operator00:54:31Next question from Scott Berg with Needham. Your line is open. Scott BergManaging Director at Needham & Company00:54:38Hi, everyone. Really nice quarter here. I guess, my question is on the digital workforce strategy part of your AI initiatives here. For this year, we've seen many other vendors release different agents and when they have it's kind of created a halo effect for customers having to maybe buy more components of the solutions truly make those agents work. If you think about agents or digital workforce on the Monday platform here this year, I guess what parts of the platform does the customer really need to kind of create this? Scott BergManaging Director at Needham & Company00:55:09Is it just the core work management system or is there other pieces of functionality add ons that they need to also purchase to enable this technology? Thanks. Roy MannCo-Founder & Co-CEO at monday.com00:55:21Hi, it's Roy. So like we see agents as another layer on top of the WorkOS, meaning it's like across everything. Because when you work with an agent, you'd love it to know first of all, you'd love to control what it knows, but you eventually want it to be across product, okay? And I think that's a lot of the power of Monday. Let's say you want the Monday expert agent to create a dashboard across a lot of different products. Roy MannCo-Founder & Co-CEO at monday.com00:55:52So we will be able to do that. And so we didn't we don't have a plan for monetization for that part yet. I think we opened it up. So we will have in the future once we see the different agents, okay? And so I'm excited about this because I think it's like a massive opportunity for us to build a marketplace, a lot of agents that can do different things and you can communicate with them and achieve way more. Roy MannCo-Founder & Co-CEO at monday.com00:56:26And obviously, because it's on top of the Monday platform, each one of our agents will be able to do a lot of things because the platform and really perform powerful things you'd want them to do and not just like talk with them or those kind of stuff. Operator00:56:48Next question from Taylor MacKines with UBS. Your line is open. Taylor McGinnisAnalyst at UBS Group00:56:54Yes. Hi, congrats on the quarter and thanks so much for taking my question. Just focusing on the outlook for stable NRR. So the map seems to be pointing to an in period NRR number that is higher than the 112% trailing twelve month metrics. So first, is that true? Taylor McGinnisAnalyst at UBS Group00:57:10And then second, I guess, why couldn't we see NRR trend up? Is that just conservatism? Are you not yet maybe seeing seed expansions recover in this macro? It seems that that would just be more biased up given the cross sell opportunity and focus upmarket. So, Alaron, can you just help us understand some of the puts and takes there? Taylor McGinnisAnalyst at UBS Group00:57:28Thanks. Eliran GlazerCFO at monday.com00:57:29Yes, sure, Taylor. This is Alaron. So, first of all, we have been very encouraged about NDR improving faster than we initially anticipated back in 2024, and we're very transparent about it. On the other hand, given recent demand volatility and macroeconomic uncertainty, we're adopting a bit more cautious outlook on NDR because I think we are in some cases, we are not yet the word in terms of global headwinds, economy headwinds are not yet out of the woods. So we're trying to be a bit more prudent on that front. Operator00:58:06Our next question comes from the line of Alan Farovsky with Scotiabank. Your line is open. Allan VerkhovskiAssociate Director - Equity Research at Scotiabank00:58:14Hey, thanks guys. Can you talk about how based on your AI product roadmap, how are you thinking about a few years from now what an average customer could be spending for AI credits relative to their seat license cost? Roy MannCo-Founder & Co-CEO at monday.com00:58:30That's like predicting the future kind of question. So really we just released it. We'd love to see more data from customers, so we'll be able to know to answer those questions. So I can't really say. 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PresentationSkip to Participants Operator00:00:00Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for standing by. My name is Desiree, and I will be your conference operator today. At this time, I would like to welcome everyone to the monday.com Fourth Quarter Fiscal Year 20 20 4 Earnings Conference Call. All lines have been placed on mute to prevent any background noise. After today's remarks, there will be a question and answer session. Operator00:00:31I would now like to turn the conference over to Byron Steeson, Vice President of Investor Relations. You may begin. Byron StephenDirector of Investor Relations at monday.com00:00:39Hello, everyone, and thank you for joining us on today's conference call to discuss the financial results for monday.com's fourth quarter and fiscal year twenty twenty four. Joining me today are Roy Mann and Aaron Zimmerman, Co CEOs of monday.com and Elrond Glaser, monday dot com's CFO. We released our results for the fourth quarter and fiscal twenty twenty four earlier today. You can find our quarterly shareholder letter along with our investor presentation and a replay of today's webcast under the News and Events section of our IR website at ir.monday.com. Certain statements made on the call today will be forward looking statements, which reflect management's best judgment based on currently available information. Byron StephenDirector of Investor Relations at monday.com00:01:18These statements involve risks and uncertainties that may cause actual results to differ from our expectations. Please refer to our earnings release for more information on the specific factors that could cause actual results to differ materially from our forward looking statements. Additionally, non GAAP financial measures will be discussed on the call. Reconciliations to the most directly comparable GAAP financial measures are available in the earnings release and the earnings presentation for today's call, which are posted on our Investor Relations website. Now, let me turn the call over to Roy. Roy MannCo-Founder & Co-CEO at monday.com00:01:50Thank you, Byron, and thank you, everyone, for joining us today. We closed out Q4 on a high note, capping off an incredible year. 2024 has been a period of transformation and growth with our business reaching new heights across every area. We've made substantial progress in solidifying our market leadership while driving innovation to meet the evolving needs of our customers. A major milestone this year was reaching $1,000,000,000 in annual recurring revenue, underscoring the strength of our WorkOS platform and the increasing demand of our solutions. Roy MannCo-Founder & Co-CEO at monday.com00:02:28Our financial performance was equally exceptional in 2024. We achieved record operating margins and delivered record free cash flow, reflecting both the efficiency of our business and the scalability of our model. Total revenue in Q4 came in at $268,000,000 up 32% from a year ago quarter and $972,000,000 in FY 2024 up 33% from the prior year. On the product front, we continue to make considerable progress in our multi product strategy. Monday CRM has exceeded expectations and we added a record number of net new accounts for both CRM and dev during the year. Roy MannCo-Founder & Co-CEO at monday.com00:03:12We were also proud to be recognized as a leader in the Gartner Magic Quadrant in three different categories. This recognition further validates our strategy and our continued commitment to delivering value to our customers. In 2024, we made a significant strides in our AI development, unveiling several new capabilities, including AI blocks. Since AI was integrated into the Mande platform, users have performed approximately 10,000,000 AI actions. This ongoing progress highlights our commitment to enhancing the user experience and driving greater efficiency through innovating AI solutions. Roy MannCo-Founder & Co-CEO at monday.com00:03:52One of the most significant milestones of 2024 was our strategic expansion into the enterprise market. Roy MannCo-Founder & Co-CEO at monday.com00:03:58We successfully grew our Roy MannCo-Founder & Co-CEO at monday.com00:03:58largest seat count to 80,000 seats, signaling strong grew our largest seat count to 80,000 seats, signaling strong adoption and deepening enterprise customer engagement. All this enterprise expansion would not have been possible without MongoDB, our data architecture. In 2024, we completed the latest phase of MongoDB, MongoDB two point zero, enhancing the platform scalability to support larger, more complex use cases. As we look ahead to 2025, we remain focused on continuing this momentum, building on our achievement and further expanding our reach and impact with front foundation in place, we are excited for the opportunities to come. Let me now turn it over to Eran to walk you through some of the product highlights of this quarter. Eran ZinmanCo-Founder & Co-CEO at monday.com00:04:46Thank you, Roy. We're excited to announce that Monday Service is now officially available to all customers. Monday Service is an AI first enterprise service management solution that helps service teams deliver exceptional support faster through smart AI powered automations. Initial customer demand has been very strong with Mande service already showing the highest cross sell of our new product and the highest ACV of the entire Mande product suite. As Roy mentioned, we have been very busy on the AI front. Eran ZinmanCo-Founder & Co-CEO at monday.com00:05:20To make AI more accessible, we've introduced a flexible consumption based pricing model for AI blocks, offering a baseline level of free usage for all plans. For organization with larger AI needs, additional usage can be purchased at different levels. In 2025, our AI strategy will be focused on three main areas: AI blocks, product power ups and digital workforce. AI blocks will be extended to provide more advanced ways to automate tasks. Through product Power Ups, AI will be deeply integrated into each product to address specific user needs. Eran ZinmanCo-Founder & Co-CEO at monday.com00:05:59And finally, the digital workforce will include AI agents like Monday Expert, Deal Facilitator and Service Analyzer, which will offer actionable insights and streamline processes for users. Looking ahead to 2025, we have a lot to be excited about. Our momentum is stronger than ever, positioning us for continued growth and innovation. The success this year would not have been possible without education and talent of the Money.comteam. In 2024, we increased our workforce by 35%, bringing our total employee ad count to over 2,500 and expect strong hiring in 2025. Eran ZinmanCo-Founder & Co-CEO at monday.com00:06:42As we move forward, we remain focused on investing in our people, delivering exceptional value to our customers and driving sustainable long term growth for our shareholders. With that, I'll now turn over to Eliran to cover our financial and guidance. Eliran GlazerCFO at monday.com00:06:58Thank you, Eliran, and thank you to everyone for joining our call. Today, I'll review our fourth quarter and full year 2024 results in detail and provide initial fiscal year '20 '20 '5 guidance. As Roy mentioned, 2024 was an exceptionally strong year. Total revenue in Q4 came in at $268,000,000 up 32% from the year ago quarter and $972,000,000 in fiscal year twenty twenty four, up 32% from the prior year. Overall NDR increased to 112% in Q4. Eliran GlazerCFO at monday.com00:07:29We expect NDR to remain stable throughout 2025. As a reminder, our NDR is a trailing fourth quarter weighted average calculation. For the reminder of the financial metrics disclosed, unless otherwise noted, I will be referencing non GAAP financial measures. We have provided a reconciliation of GAAP to non GAAP financials in our earnings release. Fourth quarter gross margin was 89 percent. Eliran GlazerCFO at monday.com00:07:53In the medium to long term, we continue to expect gross margin to remain in the high 80s range. Research and development expense was $48,100,000 in Q4 or 18% of revenue, up from 16% in the year ago quarter and 162,700,000 in fiscal year twenty twenty four or 17% of revenue, up from 16% in the prior year. Sales and marketing expense was $127,800,000 in Q4 or 48% of revenue compared to 54% in the year ago quarter and $499,700,000 in fiscal year twenty twenty four or 51% of revenue compared to 57% in the prior year. Net income was $57,300,000 in Q4 twenty twenty four, up from $33,700,000 in Q4 twenty twenty three. For fiscal year twenty twenty four, net income was $183,300,000 up from $94,900,000 Diluted net income per share was 1.08 in Q4 and $3.5 in fiscal year twenty twenty four based on $52,900,000 and $52,400,000 fully diluted shares outstanding respectively. Eliran GlazerCFO at monday.com00:09:05Total employee headcount was 2,508, an increase of two zero three employees since Q3. We expect to grow headcount by approximately 30% in fiscal year twenty twenty five with heavier investment in the first half of the year as we continue to ramp up hiring for our sales, R and D and product teams. Moving on to the balance sheet and cash flow, we ended the quarter with $1,410,000,000 in cash and cash equivalents, up from $1,340,000,000 at the end of Q3. Free cash flow for Q4 was $72,700,000 and free cash flow margin as defined as free cash flow as a percentage of revenue was 27%. In fiscal year twenty twenty four, free cash flow was $295,800,000 and free cash flow margin was 30%. Eliran GlazerCFO at monday.com00:09:52We remain on target to meet our Investor Day goal of generating over $1,000,000,000 in free cash flow from fiscal year twenty twenty three to fiscal year twenty twenty six. Free cash flow is defined as net cash from operating activities, less cash used for property and equipment and capitalized software costs. Now let's turn to our updated outlook for fiscal year twenty twenty five. For the first quarter of fiscal year twenty twenty five, we expect our revenue to be in the range of $274,000,000 to $276,000,000 representing growth of 26% to twenty seven percent year over year. We expect non GAAP operating income of $25,000,000 to $27,000,000 and an operating margin of 9% to 10%. Eliran GlazerCFO at monday.com00:10:36For the full year 2025, we expect revenue to be in the range of $12.00 $8,000,000,000 to $1,221,000,000 dollars representing growth of 24% to 26% year over year. This forecast assumes a negative impact from FX of 100 basis points to 200 basis points. We expect full year non GAAP operating income of $134,000,000 to $142,000,000 and an operating margin of 11% to 12%. We expect full year free cash flow of $300,000,000 to $3.00 $8,000,000 and free cash flow margin of approximately 25%. Let me now turn it over to the operator for your questions. Operator00:11:20Thank you. We will now begin the question and answer session. And our first question comes from the line of Pindjalim Bora with JPMorgan. Your line is open. Pinjalim BoraExecutive Director at JP Morgan00:12:05Great. Hey, thank you for taking the questions and congrats on a strong quarter. I want to start with AI. It seems like your AI capabilities are seeing really strong momentum on AI actions. You introduced some AI credits. Pinjalim BoraExecutive Director at JP Morgan00:12:22Maybe help us understand how these AI credits are supposed to work. Seems like 500 is in the plan. What is how is that going to consume? Is that per AI action? How are you defining an action? Pinjalim BoraExecutive Director at JP Morgan00:12:37And if somebody wants to buy more, what does that pricing look like? Roy MannCo-Founder & Co-CEO at monday.com00:12:44Hi, it's Roy. Thank you for the question. So what we wanted to do with this different pricing of consumption is that everyone can use it, like all our customer base. And essentially, we have like a starting plan, like you said, post 500. And action is everything that AI does within our platform, like a summary, like doing any kind of action on the board. Roy MannCo-Founder & Co-CEO at monday.com00:13:15So essentially, if you create a workflow, you can use a lot of AI actions to build a complete workflow and really automate things in a way you couldn't before. And as you progress and use it more and more in a consumption model, we have different plans that you can purchase more actions. Pinjalim BoraExecutive Director at JP Morgan00:13:37Yes, understood. Okay. Eliran, one question on guidance. The constant currency guide seems very strong, seems like about 26% or over 26% at the high end. Can you talk about some of those assumptions because you were seeing a little bit of a choppiness around macro in Europe. Pinjalim BoraExecutive Director at JP Morgan00:13:53How did that progress? What are you assuming for the guide? What are you assuming on pricing benefit? And then lastly, how should we think of contribution from kind of non core, non CWM products for 2025? Thank you. Eliran GlazerCFO at monday.com00:14:11Sure, Pindjalind. So with regards to 2025 guidance, what we took into account is, first of all, we saw a consistent demand trend across all regions. The U. S. Demand is very healthy. Eliran GlazerCFO at monday.com00:14:24The rest of the world, including Europe and Middle East, is stabilizing compared to what we have seen in November. We took into account the fact that NDR remains stable at 112%. We expected negative FX impact, as you stated, because of the geopolitical and strong dollar versus the other currencies. 65% of our revenue or ARR is U. S. Eliran GlazerCFO at monday.com00:14:48Dollar based in terms of reporting. So we estimated around 100 to 200 basis points based on calculations that we have done. We took into account the growth of 30% in headcount in 2025. And we didn't take into account, for example, your prior questions, any revenue from AI is still early days to take it into account. And mostly, when we think about product, there is becoming CRM is becoming more significant in terms of the contribution to the ARR. Eliran GlazerCFO at monday.com00:15:20So we already took it into account. Service is still just out of beta contributing small amount of revenue, but it's growing really fast. And they have pretty much also took into account certain contribution. But overall, we see the trends that I mentioned as part of our 2025 guidance assumption. Pinjalim BoraExecutive Director at JP Morgan00:15:42Anything on the pricing benefit, Elioram? Eliran GlazerCFO at monday.com00:15:46On the pricing, so what we have said last year that we estimate between 2024 to 2026, dollars '80 million contribution. The way we looked at it was around $30,000,000 in fiscal year twenty twenty four, around $40,000,000 in fiscal year twenty twenty five that is already baked into the guidance and also there is going to be about $10,000,000 in 2026, because pricing will be rolled out by July 2025. This is where we're going to end the kind of pricing rolled out that we have done starting last year. Pinjalim BoraExecutive Director at JP Morgan00:16:17Thank you very much. Operator00:16:22And our next question comes from the line of Alex Zukin with Wolfe Research. Your line is open. Alex ZukinAnalyst at Wolfe Research LLC00:16:29Yes. Hey guys, congratulations on another a great order. I guess maybe back to the pendulum question. If you look at what happened in the quarter for you guys with respect to Europe and The U. S, kind of what actually transpired in the month of December? Alex ZukinAnalyst at Wolfe Research LLC00:16:50And as you think about the pipeline and specifically on the enterprise, did you see it being more seasonally weighted? Did you see kind of the any impacts from the changing competitive landscape? Kind of walk us through a little bit of the shape of the demand curve in the quarter and what it's telling you about as you really head into next year? Eran ZinmanCo-Founder & Co-CEO at monday.com00:17:13Yes. Hi, Alex. This is Arun. So, yes, like as Leroy mentioned, The U. S. Eran ZinmanCo-Founder & Co-CEO at monday.com00:17:20Demand has been pretty much healthy and stable throughout November and January and December. Outside The U. S, like we stated, we saw a little bit of choppiness in November, but right now judging what we've seen, including Europe as well, we see signs of stabilization. So that is great to see, give us a lot of confidence going forward. Like Oliver mentioned, there's some FX impact, but apart from that, that's kind of the environment that we're seeing going forward. Eran ZinmanCo-Founder & Co-CEO at monday.com00:17:51Overall, I would say that growth retention continue to be at record levels, so very strong growth retention and NDR as well. Enterprise has been our fastest growing segment and it continues to be like that. And we see the growth accelerated in the enterprise segment as well. So judging all those parameters together, it feels healthy and it feels like we are on track to fill our plans for 2025. Eliran GlazerCFO at monday.com00:18:21Maybe I would just Alex, this is Rian. Maybe just adding to Iran, something that we have said left here. As we see a transition in the business from PLG to SLG motion, we're also starting to see the results of each quarter coming in the back end of the quarter. So So going into December, like we used to see a more kind of flat in the prior years. Now there is also skewed it's skewed towards the end of each quarter. Eliran GlazerCFO at monday.com00:18:45So we have seen good signs in December when we compared to what we've seen in November back in Europe, Middle East last year. Alex ZukinAnalyst at Wolfe Research LLC00:18:54Perfect. And then with respect to the guidance guys, I'm not going to ask you about price, but what I'm going to ask you about is just given how much stronger the guidance looks I think to what some people were expecting. Maybe just walk us through, A, how are you thinking about the conservatism and the prudence given changing go to market dynamics from a talent perspective this year, as well as just how many products you have from service to AI blocks to CRM to dev. How are you thinking about or layering more importantly in those assumptions into this guide relative to previous years? And thank you guys. Eliran GlazerCFO at monday.com00:19:35Yes. So sure, Alex. So I will repeat what I said to Pindjalim. So first of all, maybe one thing worth mentioning that this year I think is more unpredictable when you compare it to prior years. The geopolitical situation across the world is to a certain extent there are some things that you can't really predict. Eliran GlazerCFO at monday.com00:19:54So this is also something that we took into account as part of our guidance. To your question on product, we have four products on the platform with now service being out of data, Monday Dev, Monday CRM and Monday Work Management. So this is something that obviously we took into account. NDR continues to be stable at 11012%, sorry. The new products will contribute a certain amount of revenue, it's growing. Eliran GlazerCFO at monday.com00:20:23But other than CRM that is now becoming more significant, we will see the results of the other product next year. So when we took all this into account, bear in mind that we also increased headcount last year in 35% and now we see the full impact of this hiring last year. So we try to have a prudent, I don't know what to call it conservative or not. This is a responsible guidance based on what we know today. Operator00:20:54And our next question comes from the line of Arjun Bhatia with William Blair. Your line is open. Arjun BhatiaAnalyst at William Blair00:21:01Perfect. Thank you guys. And I'll add my congrats, very nice end to the year here. One thing, Roy, around that stuck out in your shareholder letter in regards to service, I think you called out that it's the highest ACV across your product line that you're seeing. I understand I know I think it's still a small customer count given how early it is. Arjun BhatiaAnalyst at William Blair00:21:23But can you walk through what the drivers there are? Like are you selling this product to larger customers? Are there more add ons? What makes service higher ACV? And should we expect that to continue as customer count grows for that product? Eran ZinmanCo-Founder & Co-CEO at monday.com00:21:42Yes. Hi, Arjun. It's Eran. So yes, I think it's a combination of a few things. One is we see every product I would say has a different go to market. Eran ZinmanCo-Founder & Co-CEO at monday.com00:21:55But one thing that really stood out with Manda service is that it feels like there's a big overlap between our existing customer base and the potential customer base for service. So relatively to other products, we see more momentum with cross sell to begin with. It's still low numbers, but just percentage wise, it feels like there's a big overlap between the audiences, of who we already have as a customer and people that are interested in managed service. And that led to more mature customers buying into managed service. Also it's a more of a top down decision process. Eran ZinmanCo-Founder & Co-CEO at monday.com00:22:28So we have management kind of involved in the process, which ultimately if you combine those two things leads to higher ACV deals, more top down deals. And it just feels like it had a lot of potential to grow into a more kind of mature ACV mid market enterprise going forward business. Arjun BhatiaAnalyst at William Blair00:22:52All right. That's very helpful. Thank you. And then maybe to follow-up, just when I'm looking at, I think some of the annual customer count disclosures you've given and if I look at Q4, I think net customer adds for CRM and dev, it's the only thing that looks like there's a little bit of a slowdown. Can you just help us understand what's going on there? Arjun BhatiaAnalyst at William Blair00:23:14Is that mostly your move upmarket and greater focus on cross sell? Or is there something else on the net new customer front that we should be reading into? Eliran GlazerCFO at monday.com00:23:25So Arjun, just want to make sure that I understood the question. You relate to the total number of customer or you speak about CRM and Dev? Just want to make sure that I follow the question. Arjun BhatiaAnalyst at William Blair00:23:34Yes, thanks, Arun. It's a little bit of both. Maybe I think the total customer number also slowed compared to twenty twenty three or sorry, 2023 and then in Q4 CRM and dev. I'm trying to maybe encompass all of it in one question. Eliran GlazerCFO at monday.com00:23:50Sure. So in terms of total number of customers, we are now at 245,000 customers, which is more than I think most of our peers. And we have said in the past few times, we are going to focus on expanding within existing customer base, going up market. And we said that we are going to probably grow high single digits within the total number of customers. With regards to CRM and dev, this is related mainly to seasonality of performance marketing spend. Eliran GlazerCFO at monday.com00:24:19In Q4, usually in Q4 of the year due to the holidays that are coming at the end of the year, customer acquisition channel spend is usually lower than what we are doing before that. And it's similar to prior year, we allocate more budgets to Performance Marketing spend at the beginning of the year because we want to get the full impact of the performance rather than the second half of the year. So this is, I would say, the main reason for the numbers that you have seen. Arjun BhatiaAnalyst at William Blair00:24:50Okay, got it. Very clear. Thank you. Operator00:24:54Next question from Steve Enders with Citi. Your line is open. Steven EndersAnalyst at Citigroup00:25:00Okay, great. Thanks for taking the questions here. I guess maybe just to start, I want to ask on some of the, I guess, enterprise sales changes that are going on. I know that CRO left last quarter and it sounds like maybe there's some other changes. But I guess how are you kind of thinking about how that search is going? Steven EndersAnalyst at Citigroup00:25:23How you're thinking about kind of future changes in the go to market structure or strategy within that? Just any more color or details around that would be helpful. Eran ZinmanCo-Founder & Co-CEO at monday.com00:25:35Yes. Hi, Steven. This is Aran. So, yes, definitely we're looking for a new CRO. We've been pretty invested in the process. Eran ZinmanCo-Founder & Co-CEO at monday.com00:25:45Hopefully, we're kind of looking to finalize this process by by the end of Q2. We're looking for a person with a proven track record and deep understanding of the complexities of scaling our market. I can share that we see great candidates and hopefully, we'll get somebody across the finish line in the next few months. I would say that given all that in the last few months, we've seen great results from the CRO organization. You can see that with the enterprise adds and overall momentum feels good. Eran ZinmanCo-Founder & Co-CEO at monday.com00:26:17So definitely looking for a replacement, but so far the management within the organization is doing phenomenal work to drive results forward. Steven EndersAnalyst at Citigroup00:26:29Okay, great. That's great to hear. I guess maybe following up on that, it sounds like there's maybe even some catch up spend in that kind of organization and further kind of investments coming from a headcount perspective this year. Just I guess what is it that you're seeing out there maybe that's leading to the confidence to kind of invest behind that? And just kind of what are you kind of seeing in the pipeline that leads to, yes, the confidence to fully back that motion? Eran ZinmanCo-Founder & Co-CEO at monday.com00:27:04Yes. So this is Arun again. So yes, definitely we continue to invest into the sales org. Overall between sales and channel partners managers, our total quota carriers have grown to almost 400, three 90 five by the end of Q4. It's a significant increase Q over Q. Eran ZinmanCo-Founder & Co-CEO at monday.com00:27:24Overall, we feel confident scaling the organization for a few reasons. First, we see the results and we see that we have a lot of potential for expansion within our existing customer base. We have those additional products. That's amazing fuel for our sales team. Our existing customers are scaling more to the enterprise. Eran ZinmanCo-Founder & Co-CEO at monday.com00:27:44MongoDB was a big unlock for enterprise customers to scale even further. So it just feels that within our own customer base, there's a lot of potential for growth and we can add even more account managers to expand our customer base. And also performance marketing continue to be strong and we've seen great demand, not just across Works Management, but across the other products as well. So if you put all those things together, it just feels that it's very healthy to increase the sales organization. We see the ROI for that and we continue to do that in 2025. Steven EndersAnalyst at Citigroup00:28:17Okay, perfect. Great to hear. Thanks for taking the question. Operator00:28:24Next question comes from the line of Gilead Nastalovich with Goldman Sachs. Your line is open. Gili NaftalovichAnalyst at Goldman Sachs00:28:31Hi, good morning everybody. It's Gilead on for Kash. Thanks for taking the question. I have one for Roy and Aran and maybe a follow-up if I can. First, maybe if you can talk about AI, right? Gili NaftalovichAnalyst at Goldman Sachs00:28:43It's so central to the top three pillars you laid out as your strategic priorities in 2025. I'd love to get your perspective on how you see the AI landscape evolving over the next few years. What do you envision this meaning for Monday? Like how do you believe the engagement with the platform may change? And how are you positioning the company to take this opportunity? Roy MannCo-Founder & Co-CEO at monday.com00:29:05Yes. Hi, Dilip, it's Roy. So when we look at AI and where Monday plays in it, we feel we have a huge power of democratizing it, meaning really giving the power to people to build whatever they want to harness AI into their business, into improving efficiency. And that's what we're doing and that's the feedback we get from the beta we have with Blocks and what we've seen customers do. And going forward, this is what we're planning to go for next in the vision to actually give people technology they can use and they can implement like right off the bat and that it's easy and fun to use. Gili NaftalovichAnalyst at Goldman Sachs00:29:54Yes, very clear. And so the second question I had was a little bit more on the record number of net new CRM and dev accounts that you mentioned you are able to add this quarter. Can you talk about what drove that momentum? Is this a leading indicator or byproduct of the headcount growth that you guys saw this year? Or is it a result of maybe a multitude of different factors? Eran ZinmanCo-Founder & Co-CEO at monday.com00:30:18Yes. I think overall we're very happy with the this is Aran with the ads of customers both in CRM and Dev. I would say that compared to Q3, Q4 was a little bit slower and we mentioned that because of performance marketing seasonality. But going to 2025, we definitely see the momentum continues with both of those products. I would say that in both, we invested more into going off market in each one of those products adding more features and functionality, which will also contribute not just to the total number of customers, but to higher ACV in both. Eran ZinmanCo-Founder & Co-CEO at monday.com00:30:57So that's kind of what we focused on right now going forward. Operator00:31:07Next question comes from the line of Brent Thill with Jefferies. Your line is open. Brent ThillTech Sector Leader, Software/Internet Research at Jefferies Financial Group00:31:13Thanks. Just back on the hiring front, when you think about quota carrying sales rep hiring versus the stated goal of 30% total growth, are you growing your reps at or below or above that line? And then when you mentioned three ninety five quota reps, can you just update us what that growth was for '24 over '23? And just give us a sense of what you're seeing from a higher end perspective? Eran ZinmanCo-Founder & Co-CEO at monday.com00:31:45Yes. Hi, Brent. This is Arant. So for the first part of your question, the year over year growth in terms of total quota carriers is about 26%, so a little bit below the overall 30% that you mentioned. We plan to ramp up hiring for sales into the first half of twenty twenty five. Eran ZinmanCo-Founder & Co-CEO at monday.com00:32:06So this is kind of the plan going forward for 2025. Just a year ago in Q4 of twenty twenty three, we had about three thirteen total quarter carriers. So now almost 400. So that's a significant growth in the last year. Brent ThillTech Sector Leader, Software/Internet Research at Jefferies Financial Group00:32:24Okay, great. And now with service added in, when you think about the packaging, the go to market kind of the as you move to enterprise these we've seen larger companies do these ELAs or bundles. I mean, how are you thinking about how your packaging is evolving to make it easier to consume the breadth of all these new solutions you're coming to market with? Eran ZinmanCo-Founder & Co-CEO at monday.com00:32:51Yes. So this is Aran. So look, I think going forward, definitely we see a future where we sell a bundle of products, definitely the ones that we see high percentages of cross sell. I think I mentioned this earlier, but I think what's unique with the Monday service release is that we see high percentage of cross sell. So that's definitely an indication from work management. Eran ZinmanCo-Founder & Co-CEO at monday.com00:33:15So that's definitely an indication for us that potentially work management and Manda service can be packaged together because for a lot of people a ticket or request is basically a beginning of a project or a workflow. So those two products really work well together. So going forward, we might sell those products in a bundle to begin with, but currently it's mostly focused on cross sell between existing customers. Brent ThillTech Sector Leader, Software/Internet Research at Jefferies Financial Group00:33:44Great. Thanks. Operator00:33:49Next question comes from the line of Brent Bracelin with Piper Sandler. Your line is open. Brent BracelinSr. Research Analyst at Piper Sandler Companies00:33:55Thank you. Good afternoon. Good morning. Wanted to double click in North America. It looks like growth in North America accelerated 200 basis points sequentially here, more than offsetting a decellular sign internationally. Brent BracelinSr. Research Analyst at Piper Sandler Companies00:34:11What drove the strength in North America? Are you seeing SMB optimism start to kind of drive activity? Is it more influenced by large enterprise expansions? Just walk through the strength that you saw in North America this quarter here and what drove that acceleration? Thanks. Eran ZinmanCo-Founder & Co-CEO at monday.com00:34:33Yes. Hi, Brian. This is Ron. So I think it's mostly been enterprise customers that are driving that. I mean, we mentioned that we had some choppiness in November in EMEA, but that seemed to be stabilized. Eran ZinmanCo-Founder & Co-CEO at monday.com00:34:45But I think overall, if we look at longer term trends, definitely in North America, our enterprise segment has been the strongest in terms of growth. And also we're reaching bigger and bigger customers. So that's definitely a very significant driver in that region. Eliran GlazerCFO at monday.com00:35:01Yes. Brent, this is Eliran also to let you run. I also think this is we are gaining market share. One of the things that we have seen last year is that we are basically we have a strong machine that works really well. There has been some changes in our competitive landscape, which allowed us actually to take market share to bring market share. Eliran GlazerCFO at monday.com00:35:21Some of our competitors also focused on enterprise. So it leaves the down market there to us in terms of SMBs and mid market. So overall, few trends that are actually pushing us into gaining more market share and increasing our footprint in North America. Brent BracelinSr. Research Analyst at Piper Sandler Companies00:35:38Great to see that. And then just as a follow-up here, I know historically sales, dev, these were largely new products that were landing new customers. I think you mentioned service, I know it was just kind of in beta here early release, but it was something like 60% cross sell of the service customers, which is very different than what you saw with that and sales. So can you just double click into maybe the cross sell? Why is service different? Brent BracelinSr. Research Analyst at Piper Sandler Companies00:36:12And are you starting to see broader cross sell opportunity across all platforms? Thanks. Eran ZinmanCo-Founder & Co-CEO at monday.com00:36:19Yes. So this is Arun. So overall, we see more cross sell between all products. But like I mentioned, there's a lot of synergy between Monday service and Monday work management, mainly because Monday service is usually the beginning of a process or workflow. So a lot of people kind of use Mongoose service to manage the requests and the admin around the requests and then kind of move on to actually executing the workflow. Eran ZinmanCo-Founder & Co-CEO at monday.com00:36:49I think that's a big benefit also in terms of the kind of our market position for customers, but also shows the strength of having multiple Monday products. It just feels like the overlap between the buyer for Works Management and the buyer from Monday services is very large compared to other products and the synergy between the products is very high as well. So that's what kind of drove the very high cross sell percentages that we've seen. Brent BracelinSr. Research Analyst at Piper Sandler Companies00:37:15Okay. So just to clarify, you're not seeing service and sales bundled and cross sell together, you're seeing service and work management more often? Eran ZinmanCo-Founder & Co-CEO at monday.com00:37:25Yes. I mean, we also see Monday Dev and Monday CRM as well, but just the percentages the services are way higher. Brent BracelinSr. Research Analyst at Piper Sandler Companies00:37:34Got it. Helpful. Thank you. Operator00:37:39Next question from Michael Berg with Wells Fargo. Your line is open. Michael BergAnalyst at Wells Fargo00:37:45Hi, congrats on the quarter and thanks for taking my question. I want to double click on service one more time. Maybe you could help us understand or price a little bit more color on what it looks like when you land with service initially. Are you landing alongside existing other service solutions? Are you displacing something? Michael BergAnalyst at Wells Fargo00:38:02Maybe you can help us understand what the customers have in place when you are landing, whether they are monday.com customers or not? Thank you. Eran ZinmanCo-Founder & Co-CEO at monday.com00:38:11Yes. Hi, this is Aran. So first of all, it's important to mention it's not just IT service. What we've seen from the product launch is that obviously we have IT service, but we have HR requests, operations, financial requests, marketing requests, customer support. So it's a variety of different departments within the organization. Eran ZinmanCo-Founder & Co-CEO at monday.com00:38:35In terms of competition, sometimes we land with another vendor and sometimes we are the only vendor. Sometimes we compete with other players in the market and win the deal. So I would say it's a combination of all the above. Mainly I think what we again, still early days, but from what we've talked with customers, they love the flexibility of the platform. I think all the big players in this industry have high degree of flexibility and this is something that we offer from the very beginning. Eran ZinmanCo-Founder & Co-CEO at monday.com00:39:03So the fact it's built on the Monde platform is a huge benefit. And also the fact that in a way, Monde for them is the centralized way to work. And because Monde service is so deeply integrated with Monde CRM and work management, it also give us a huge benefit over other players in the market. So that's kind of the dynamic we currently see. But as I've mentioned, it's still early days. Eran ZinmanCo-Founder & Co-CEO at monday.com00:39:27So I think as time goes by, we'll have more clarity around this. Michael BergAnalyst at Wells Fargo00:39:31Helpful. And then one quick follow-up for you, Elrond. On NRR, it inflected in the quarter in pretty much every metric. You talked about stabilization on the NRR moving forward. How can we think about the impact of price there and how that's baked into your comment for stabilization of that metric for 2025? Eliran GlazerCFO at monday.com00:39:52Sure, Michael. So in terms of just by way of reminding to everyone, we are reporting a weighted average of the last four quarters. So we said that growth retention has improved significantly. We have seen good trend last year of increasing numbers. So now we're starting to see the results of this. Eliran GlazerCFO at monday.com00:40:10And we said we're going to be last year, we said we're going to be slightly above 110. And 111, we will see the tick up as we start this year and this is what happens. We estimate that the pricing adjustment will positively be contributed around 100 basis points to the reported NDR in fiscal year twenty twenty five. Helpful. Thank you. Operator00:40:32Next question comes from the line of Michael Funk with Bank of America. Your line is open. Michael FunkAnalyst at Bank of America00:40:38Yes. Thank you for the questions this morning. Wanted to ask about the success with larger customers that you've seen recently. If you can just frame maybe the greater complexity of those deals, expansion prospects, may also come back to a comment you made earlier about market share gains and maybe some consolidation you might be seeing among the larger customers? Eliran GlazerCFO at monday.com00:41:02Sure, Michael. This is Elivan. So maybe again to take you a step back, we have started a process of improving the platform two years ago with MondayDB. So we had our plan to make sure that the platform is going to be scalable. We're going to address speed, performance and scale. Eliran GlazerCFO at monday.com00:41:24So we are now in the MongoDB 2.1, and we keep improving the infrastructure to allow bigger, larger customers to work on the platform. In addition to that, we hired people throughout the hiring process of prior year going into this year that are more familiar with selling to the enterprise customers in terms of mid market and enterprise, and this is a process that we continue to do. We invested in the depth of the product, not only on the breadth of the product, although we have Monday service. So all of that together, by the way, the acknowledgment of the market that Monday is indeed a platform that can be used within larger and larger customers. Also having in mind the fact that we took market share from competitors. Eliran GlazerCFO at monday.com00:42:11So we said that enterprise is our fastest growing business segment. The sales teams are performing well, particularly in The U. S. And you can also see the increase in 50,001 customers NDR that is related to large contract expansion with the enterprise customers. Of the above, all of the things that we have done over the past, I would say, two years, the investment in people, in technology, in product is something that is driving the business forward into the enterprise. Michael FunkAnalyst at Bank of America00:42:43Great. Thank you for Michael FunkAnalyst at Bank of America00:42:44the color. One more quickly, if I could. Again, just the backdrop of the strong net adds for CRM and in dev and your comments on the macro and adding more quota carrying reps, is there any reason to believe that net additions slow in 2025 for CRM and dev? Eran ZinmanCo-Founder & Co-CEO at monday.com00:43:06Yes, this is Aran. So look, it might slow a little bit. I mean, it's kind of hard to predict, but overall, we continue with strong momentum around performance margin. I would say that overall strategy, not just for CRM and Dev, but for the company itself is to go upmarket and have higher customer AC fees. So I would say that our product focus is not necessarily to add a lot of very small businesses, but rather to scale within our existing customers in CRM and DAS and bring larger customers. Eran ZinmanCo-Founder & Co-CEO at monday.com00:43:37So I would say definitely in terms of revenue and AR portion, we continue to accelerate in the product. It's just going to be a different mix between amount of customers and ACV going forward. Roy MannCo-Founder & Co-CEO at monday.com00:43:50Yes. Hi, Troy. Like I think to what Eran said, like the decision to make the price increase is also a decision towards that end, okay. We preferred larger customers, more entreat rather than increase the number of total customers. Michael FunkAnalyst at Bank of America00:44:06Great. Thank you for the questions. Operator00:44:16Our next question comes from the line of Tom Blakey with Cantor. Your line is open. Thomas BlakeyManaging Director at Cantor Fitzgerald00:44:22Hi, thanks for taking my question. I might have two here. The just going back to AI seeing this kind of parabolic increase in AI interactions, couple of clarifications and a longer term question. Is it safe to say that there was close to zero, if not zero, AI revenue in calendar twenty four? I think you mentioned you don't include any AI revenue in your calendar twenty five guide. Thomas BlakeyManaging Director at Cantor Fitzgerald00:44:49Just wondering what you're seeing in terms of that big uptick in interactions and what if you look out a little bit, where you think AI revenue could be at this company in the longer term? And I have a follow-up. Roy MannCo-Founder & Co-CEO at monday.com00:45:02Hi, it's Roy. So it's really too early to say because what we saw is increased usage and then you introduce pricing and then you want to see customer reactions and how they grow. So we didn't predict anything and we couldn't bake it in. Going forward, I think when we look at the market, we see like so many different pricing strategies for AI, some is for winning markets, some is for revenue. Like we feel confident in the blocks and usage of actions as addition value that customers are willing to pay for, but we'll have to wait and see how much this is true and what we can expect looking forward. Operator00:45:54And our first question comes from the line of Derek Wood with TD Cowen. Your line is open. Derrick WoodAnalyst at Cowen00:46:02Great. Thanks. Congrats on a strong quarter. And I wanted to talk about come back to the larger deal theme and you guys highlighted in the shareholder letter, you captured an 80,000 seat customer in 2024, which I know you've talked about previously. But could you talk about how you feel about the opportunity to see more multi thousand seat engagements in 2025 versus 2024? Derrick WoodAnalyst at Cowen00:46:26Just wondering if we can see a notable uptick in that kind of deal activity or if that will kind of be gradual over looking out over the next few years? Eliran GlazerCFO at monday.com00:46:36Sure, Derek. This is Eliran. So the way we do it is either we land bigger to begin with and then like a top down transaction that we are now seeing more and more. So this is one way to do it and we are the hiring in the sales organization, the changes that we are now doing in the sales organization, the profile are also contributing to that. And on the other end, we have customers that grew with us for a few years. Eliran GlazerCFO at monday.com00:47:01And once they unlock the value of the platform and we are adding additional products, they are doing consolidation on Monday. We are replacing other vendors in terms of switching. So the trend, I think this is something that we started to see, I would say, about a year and a half ago and now we're seeing more and more. And it comes with the growth of the platform, the additional product and the profile of the people that we have together with the acknowledgment of Monday as a solution that can address enterprise level solution needs. Operator00:47:39Next question comes from the line of Ittai Kidron with Oppenheimer. Your line is open. Ittai KidronSenior Equity Research Analyst at Oppenheimer & Co. Inc.00:47:45Thanks guys. I guess a couple of small ones for me. And following on Derek's question on the 80,000 seats, great to see the expansion there. Maybe you could give us a little bit more color on the breadth of 10 ks plus seat customers. How many of those are in the wild? Ittai KidronSenior Equity Research Analyst at Oppenheimer & Co. Inc.00:48:07And then second question is regarding AI. Do you see any risk of seed cannibalization with the adoption of your AI solutions? Thank you. Eran ZinmanCo-Founder & Co-CEO at monday.com00:48:19Yes. Hi, Tay, it's Ron. So look, I think like everyone mentioned, overall, we see definitely more potential for larger deals. We had those expansion also this quarter and we continue to have potential within our existing customer base for more deals like that. So it's kind of hard to predict because it's happening over a few quarters, but definitely something that might happen as well in 2025. Eran ZinmanCo-Founder & Co-CEO at monday.com00:48:48Regarding AI, so we made decision, like Roy mentioned, to base it based on consumption and not place on seats because it's kind of hard to predict the long term trends. But if AI can replace some manual work and automate some processes, we want people to be able to scale on that regardless of the fact that they're adding more people or not. So that made a lot of sense for us to base it to base the pricing based on consumption. So I don't think it will cannibalize the seat count that we have, but just offer different path of scalability for our customers based on usage and not necessarily people. Operator00:49:32Next question from D. J. Hynes with Canaccord. Your line is open. David Hynes Jr.Managing Director, Software Lead Analyst at Canaccord Genuity - Global Capital Markets00:49:37Hey guys. So on one David Hynes Jr.Managing Director, Software Lead Analyst at Canaccord Genuity - Global Capital Markets00:49:39of the slides in your deck, the slide is where do we want to go from here. It lists expanding core work product lines as a key initiative. So I guess that begs the big picture question like where does Monday go next? Any thoughts? Roy MannCo-Founder & Co-CEO at monday.com00:49:56Yes. Roy MannCo-Founder & Co-CEO at monday.com00:49:57So a general question, Roy. So one big thing is really deepening each one of our products into a suite. Like we took a conscious decision to deepen everything, like what Elidon mentioned, the platform itself, the scalability, robustness and that you can rely on it more and more, each one of our products, like we released in CRM, the marketing solution and we have like massive markets to go after. And so we want to deepen the offering. And then AI is also a huge thing. Roy MannCo-Founder & Co-CEO at monday.com00:50:39Blocks is one of them, but we're also embedding AI within each one of the products in a way that really accelerates the vision we have. Like in project management, it will help people turn all their portfolio into being way more predictable. For example, CRM sell more. And so we have a very clear roadmap of like giving the same value just more faster, better and deeper. Operator00:51:12Next question from Jackson Ader with KeyBanc Capital Markets. Your line is open. Jackson AderManaging Director at KeyBanc Capital Markets00:51:18Great. Thanks for taking our questions. Jackson AderManaging Director at KeyBanc Capital Markets00:51:21So my questions are around the sales led growth function. Just curious how you guys are managing the puts and takes on sales cycles as you begin to stack up multi product deals that might elongate some sales cycles and just make things generally more complex. So I'm curious about just the basic blocking and tackling you're doing around those sales cycles. And then the other thing is, what would be like the best indicator of the efficacy of the sales led growth motion that we should be kind of tuning into? Is there a way to split out maybe the enterprise customer lands versus existing customers or kind of graduates into that 50,000 or 100,000? Jackson AderManaging Director at KeyBanc Capital Markets00:52:05But yes, just some of the KPIs that we should all be looking out for to see if this sales led growth motion is really working out? Thank you. Eran ZinmanCo-Founder & Co-CEO at monday.com00:52:13Yes. Hi, Jackson, it's Arun. So regarding the first part of your question about the product, so definitely we put a lot of thought into this. So I would say it's a combination of a few things. One, we have customers landing for multiple marketing campaigns, some land for CRM products, some for work management, dev service, etcetera. Eran ZinmanCo-Founder & Co-CEO at monday.com00:52:35So right now the way it works, we have specialized teams for each one of those products that are handling new customers depending on the products that they chose. And we basically scale those things based on the demand that we see and just to scale the product. And then in addition to that, we have account managers that are already engaged with customers. And when they identify an opportunity for expansion, whether it's through our Big Brain system that identify new people joining the organization from other departments or whether it's by relationship and conversation, we have special functions called overlay, which basically helps them cross sell with people that specialize in those area, whether it's CRM or service and so on. And they help them close kind of initial deals with decision makers in the organization. Eran ZinmanCo-Founder & Co-CEO at monday.com00:53:27So we have different functions depending on the phase of the sales process that help go through this. And we're really kind of shaping that in terms of scale and just creating autonomy for them to kind of build their own sales strategy. And to the second part of the question about I think you mentioned about scaling the sales org and selling to larger enterprises. So also there we have AEs, account executives that close new deals for each segment. So we have some for SMBs, some for mid market and enterprise and it's a totally different sales process for each one. Eran ZinmanCo-Founder & Co-CEO at monday.com00:54:06And we have the same segmentation for account managers. So we really kind of segmented the business based on products and then based on company size. And for each one, we have different kind of dynamic in terms of the sales process and also the time it takes to close the deal. So this is kind of how we think about this now and obviously it will evolve over time. Operator00:54:31Next question from Scott Berg with Needham. Your line is open. Scott BergManaging Director at Needham & Company00:54:38Hi, everyone. Really nice quarter here. I guess, my question is on the digital workforce strategy part of your AI initiatives here. For this year, we've seen many other vendors release different agents and when they have it's kind of created a halo effect for customers having to maybe buy more components of the solutions truly make those agents work. If you think about agents or digital workforce on the Monday platform here this year, I guess what parts of the platform does the customer really need to kind of create this? Scott BergManaging Director at Needham & Company00:55:09Is it just the core work management system or is there other pieces of functionality add ons that they need to also purchase to enable this technology? Thanks. Roy MannCo-Founder & Co-CEO at monday.com00:55:21Hi, it's Roy. So like we see agents as another layer on top of the WorkOS, meaning it's like across everything. Because when you work with an agent, you'd love it to know first of all, you'd love to control what it knows, but you eventually want it to be across product, okay? And I think that's a lot of the power of Monday. Let's say you want the Monday expert agent to create a dashboard across a lot of different products. Roy MannCo-Founder & Co-CEO at monday.com00:55:52So we will be able to do that. And so we didn't we don't have a plan for monetization for that part yet. I think we opened it up. So we will have in the future once we see the different agents, okay? And so I'm excited about this because I think it's like a massive opportunity for us to build a marketplace, a lot of agents that can do different things and you can communicate with them and achieve way more. Roy MannCo-Founder & Co-CEO at monday.com00:56:26And obviously, because it's on top of the Monday platform, each one of our agents will be able to do a lot of things because the platform and really perform powerful things you'd want them to do and not just like talk with them or those kind of stuff. Operator00:56:48Next question from Taylor MacKines with UBS. Your line is open. Taylor McGinnisAnalyst at UBS Group00:56:54Yes. Hi, congrats on the quarter and thanks so much for taking my question. Just focusing on the outlook for stable NRR. So the map seems to be pointing to an in period NRR number that is higher than the 112% trailing twelve month metrics. So first, is that true? Taylor McGinnisAnalyst at UBS Group00:57:10And then second, I guess, why couldn't we see NRR trend up? Is that just conservatism? Are you not yet maybe seeing seed expansions recover in this macro? It seems that that would just be more biased up given the cross sell opportunity and focus upmarket. So, Alaron, can you just help us understand some of the puts and takes there? Taylor McGinnisAnalyst at UBS Group00:57:28Thanks. Eliran GlazerCFO at monday.com00:57:29Yes, sure, Taylor. This is Alaron. So, first of all, we have been very encouraged about NDR improving faster than we initially anticipated back in 2024, and we're very transparent about it. On the other hand, given recent demand volatility and macroeconomic uncertainty, we're adopting a bit more cautious outlook on NDR because I think we are in some cases, we are not yet the word in terms of global headwinds, economy headwinds are not yet out of the woods. So we're trying to be a bit more prudent on that front. Operator00:58:06Our next question comes from the line of Alan Farovsky with Scotiabank. Your line is open. Allan VerkhovskiAssociate Director - Equity Research at Scotiabank00:58:14Hey, thanks guys. Can you talk about how based on your AI product roadmap, how are you thinking about a few years from now what an average customer could be spending for AI credits relative to their seat license cost? Roy MannCo-Founder & Co-CEO at monday.com00:58:30That's like predicting the future kind of question. So really we just released it. We'd love to see more data from customers, so we'll be able to know to answer those questions. So I can't really say. Roy MannCo-Founder & Co-CEO at monday.com00:58:51Sorry. Operator00:58:52And that ends the question and answer session. Ladies and gentlemen, this concludes today's conference call. Thank you all for joining. You may now disconnect.Read moreRemove AdsParticipantsExecutivesByron StephenDirector of Investor RelationsRoy MannCo-Founder & Co-CEOEran ZinmanCo-Founder & Co-CEOEliran GlazerCFOAnalystsPinjalim BoraExecutive Director at JP MorganAlex ZukinAnalyst at Wolfe Research LLCArjun BhatiaAnalyst at William BlairSteven EndersAnalyst at CitigroupGili NaftalovichAnalyst at Goldman SachsBrent ThillTech Sector Leader, Software/Internet Research at Jefferies Financial GroupBrent BracelinSr. Research Analyst at Piper Sandler CompaniesMichael BergAnalyst at Wells FargoMichael FunkAnalyst at Bank of AmericaThomas BlakeyManaging Director at Cantor FitzgeraldDerrick WoodAnalyst at CowenIttai KidronSenior Equity Research Analyst at Oppenheimer & Co. Inc.David Hynes Jr.Managing Director, Software Lead Analyst at Canaccord Genuity - Global Capital MarketsJackson AderManaging Director at KeyBanc Capital MarketsScott BergManaging Director at Needham & CompanyTaylor McGinnisAnalyst at UBS GroupAllan VerkhovskiAssociate Director - Equity Research at ScotiabankPowered by