NASDAQ:NTWK NetSol Technologies Q2 2025 Earnings Report $2.43 -0.02 (-0.82%) As of 04:00 PM Eastern This is a fair market value price provided by Polygon.io. Learn more. Earnings History NetSol Technologies EPS ResultsActual EPS-$0.10Consensus EPS N/ABeat/MissN/AOne Year Ago EPSN/ANetSol Technologies Revenue ResultsActual Revenue$15.54 millionExpected RevenueN/ABeat/MissN/AYoY Revenue GrowthN/ANetSol Technologies Announcement DetailsQuarterQ2 2025Date2/13/2025TimeBefore Market OpensConference Call DateThursday, February 13, 2025Conference Call Time9:00AM ETUpcoming EarningsNetSol Technologies' Q3 2025 earnings is scheduled for Wednesday, May 7, 2025Conference Call ResourcesConference Call AudioConference Call TranscriptPress Release (8-K)Quarterly Report (10-Q)Earnings HistoryCompany ProfilePowered by NetSol Technologies Q2 2025 Earnings Call TranscriptProvided by QuartrFebruary 13, 2025 ShareLink copied to clipboard.PresentationSkip to Participants Operator00:00:00Good morning. Welcome to Netsol Technologies Fiscal Second Quarter twenty twenty five Earnings Conference Call. On the call today are Najib Gauri, Co Founder, Chief Executive Officer and Chairman Roger Almond, Chief Financial Officer and Eric Wagner, Chief Marketing Officer. I would now like to turn the call over to Patty MacLarson, General Counsel, who will provide the necessary cautions regarding the forward looking statements made by the management during this call. Please proceed. Patti McGlassonSVP of Legal & Corporate Affairs and General Counsel at NetSol00:00:30Good morning, everyone, and thank you for joining us. Following your review of the company's business highlights and financial results, we will open the call for questions. I'll now provide the necessary cautions regarding the forward looking statements made by management during this call. Please note that all the information discussed on today's call is covered under the Safe Harbor provisions of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act. The company's discussion may include forward looking statements reflecting management's current forecast of certain aspects of the company's future and our actual results could differ materially from those stated or implied. Patti McGlassonSVP of Legal & Corporate Affairs and General Counsel at NetSol00:01:05These forward looking statements are qualified by the cautionary statements contained in NetSol's press release and SEC filings, including our annual report on Form 10 ks and quarterly reports on Form 10 Q. I would also like to point out that we will be discussing certain non GAAP measures. The press release issued earlier today contains a reconciliation of these non GAAP financial results to their most comparable GAAP measures. Finally, I would like to remind everyone that this call will be recorded and made available for replay at www.nesaltech.com and via link available in today's press release. Now, I'd like to turn the call over to Najib. Patti McGlassonSVP of Legal & Corporate Affairs and General Counsel at NetSol00:01:44Najib? Najeeb GhauriFounder, Chairman and Chief Executive Officer at NetSol00:01:46Thank you, Perry, and good morning, everyone. Today, I'm happy to be dialing in from Lahore Pakistan Nasal office. This quarter, we made significant progress primarily on two fronts. One, we drove considerable growth in our recurring revenues and two, we invested strategically in our business, particularly in AI to position us as we drive long term sustained value for our customers and our shareholders. We achieved total net revenue growth in the second fiscal quarter of twenty twenty five, driven primarily by a double digit percentage increase in recurring revenues and a 26% increase in services revenues when compared to the second quarter of fiscal twenty twenty four. Najeeb GhauriFounder, Chairman and Chief Executive Officer at NetSol00:02:40The growth in recurring revenue is in line with a long term strategy and it demonstrates the continued evolution of our business model that over time should drive enhanced predictability and profitability for our business. To drive this shift, we are investing in multiple opportunities across our diverse markets that we believe are in line with a long term strategy. Accordingly, we recognized increased sales and marketing expenses in the quarter. While these investments have had a short term impact in our profitability, they better position us to capitalize on the many growth opportunities in front of us. Specifically, AI or Artificial Intelligence continues to be an important initiative and a key strategic focus for our future growth. Najeeb GhauriFounder, Chairman and Chief Executive Officer at NetSol00:03:39We have made encouraging progress advancing our AI initiatives in both the second quarter and year to end period, which our Chief Marketing Officer, Eric will elaborate on after my prepared remarks. Lastly, our existing markets are strong. We are receiving considerable interest from leading automakers, equipment providers and financial institutions throughout APAC region, where we have a leading market share and Europe, where Nestle is both a well known and respected name. During the quarter, we announced a multimillion dollar agreement with BMW Group in U. S. Najeeb GhauriFounder, Chairman and Chief Executive Officer at NetSol00:04:21With the leading automotive finance provider in China, expanding on a long standing relationship between Nestle and this customer that dates back to 02/2009. After the close of the quarter, we also announced a go live of an existing agreement with Kubota, a leading Japanese equipment financing company and a long standing customer for our Transcend finance platform to support their operations in Australia in addition to their operations in New Zealand and other parts. Agreements like these demonstrate the depth of NetSol's customer relationships and are the validation of the superior products and service that we provide in a highly competitive market. Demand of our Transcend platform is strong in The U. S. Najeeb GhauriFounder, Chairman and Chief Executive Officer at NetSol00:05:16As well. As I have mentioned on previous calls, Transcend Retail, our fully digital omni channel platform that seamlessly integrates into our customers processes to manage the entire purchasing journey is being used by Mini Anywhere USA, an independent brand of BMW Group to facilitate a quick and efficient purchasing journey for customers. In addition to Mini Anywhere USA, I'm excited to share with you that we are also in the process of integrating Transcend Retail with new customers BMW USA and expanding into more dealerships beyond the mini USA network. Taking the long term view of our business, I'm pleased with the progress we have made in this quarter and I'm encouraged by what's to come in the later half of fiscal twenty twenty five. We are confident that the investment we are making in this business coupled with our shifting revenue, revenue mix to include more recurring subscription and support revenues will translate into enhanced profitability and sustained value creation for our shareholders. Najeeb GhauriFounder, Chairman and Chief Executive Officer at NetSol00:06:34Before we go over our financial results for the quarter, I'd like to turn the call over to Eric Wagner, our Chief Marketing Officer, to take a deeper dive into our AI initiatives. Eric, go ahead please. Erik WagnerChief Marketing Officer at NetSol00:06:48Thanks, Najib, and good morning, everyone. I'm excited to share with you today how NetSol Technologies continues to pave the way with our AI innovations in our industry and how we are integrating AI across our products, services and our own business operations to drive efficiency, intelligence and transformation. Our journey with artificial intelligence began in 2019 when we began building our internal AI capabilities. In doing so, we've made several strategic investments that we believe position NetSol as an AI first organization. In 2024, we took a major step forward in this initiative when we launched Transcend AI Labs, our dedicated AI innovation platform. Erik WagnerChief Marketing Officer at NetSol00:07:31Transcend AI Labs is focused on three core areas. First, we are building out our internal capacity and understanding of AI to make sure that our team remains at the forefront of this rapidly evolving technology. We've invested heavily in building comprehensive curriculums to educate and enhance the skills of our staff and demonstrate how to apply this transformative technology to achieve better outcomes. Second, we're leveraging our AI expertise to enhance our products. At present, we're adding major functional AI enhancements to our Transcend retail and Transcend finance offerings, and we're exploring additional upgrades across our entire product suite. Erik WagnerChief Marketing Officer at NetSol00:08:12And third, we're enhancing Transcend Consultancy's AI services to better offer expert guidance across critical areas like information security, data engineering and cloud services. In short, we are providing specialized AI consulting solutions to help businesses achieve their goals. Taking things a step further, in the fall of twenty twenty four, we launched the Transcend platform, our AI driven unified product ecosystem that revolutionizes how assets are sold, financed and leased. This quarter, we are rolling out several major AI advancements and I want to highlight two key enhancements that will have an impact immediately. The first enhancement is intelligent document processing or IDP. Erik WagnerChief Marketing Officer at NetSol00:08:57This AI powered solution transforms multi document verification, data extraction and classification, handling bank statements, financial records, contracts and ID cards with OCR and NLP technology. IDP not only reduces manual intervention but also integrates advanced analytics to assess cash flows, credit history and risk factors, improving credit underwriting and real time decision making. Automated compliance validation ensures extracted data meets regulatory and internal standards, reducing operational risk. With automated invoice and contract processing, businesses can accelerate approvals, minimize errors and optimize risk assessments, delivering a faster, more efficient financing experience. Second, we have our interactive AI assistant, which provides real time support throughout the asset finance lifecycle assisting both customers and internal teams with instant responses, process guidance, and intelligent recommendations. Erik WagnerChief Marketing Officer at NetSol00:09:55This enhancement is designed to increase operational efficiency, improve customer interactions, and create a more intuitive and responsive experience. At Netsil, AI is not just a tool, it's a core part of our strategy. By integrating AI across the Transcend platform, we're enhancing efficiency, improving customer experiences and future proofing our business. As we continue expanding Transcend's capabilities, we look forward to sharing more about how AI is driving transformation and unlocking new growth opportunities for Netsil. That concludes my remarks. Erik WagnerChief Marketing Officer at NetSol00:10:31I will now turn the call over to Roger Allman, Chief Financial Officer of Netsol to go over our fiscal second quarter twenty twenty five results. Roger? Roger AlmondChief Financial Officer at NetSol00:10:41Thanks, Eric. Our total net revenues for the second quarter of fiscal twenty twenty five were $15,500,000 compared with $15,200,000 in the prior year period. License fees for the second quarter of fiscal twenty twenty five were $73,000 compared with $3,000,000 in the prior year period. Recurring revenues or subscription and support revenues for the second quarter of fiscal twenty twenty five were $8,600,000 compared with $6,800,000 in the prior year period, representing an increase of 27%. Included in our recurring revenues this quarter was a one time catch up of approximately $1,000,000 These one time catch ups are a normal part of our business operations and occur during any of our reporting periods. Roger AlmondChief Financial Officer at NetSol00:11:29Absent this one time catch up, our recurring revenue in the quarter would have been approximately $7,600,000 or a 12% increase over the prior year period, which more accurately reflects the increases in contract values for this segment. As Najeeb stated in his prepared remarks, we are confident that this growth in recurring revenues over time will benefit our business in the long term by driving more predictable and reliable results that generate sustainable profitability. Total services revenue for the second quarter of fiscal twenty twenty five were $6,800,000 compared with $5,400,000 in the prior year period or a 26% increase. Total cost of revenues was $8,600,000 for the second quarter of fiscal twenty twenty five compared to $8,100,000 in the second quarter of fiscal year twenty twenty four. Gross profit for the second quarter of fiscal twenty twenty five was $6,900,000 or 45% of net revenues compared with $7,200,000 or 47% of net revenues in the prior year period. Roger AlmondChief Financial Officer at NetSol00:12:32Operating expenses for the second quarter of fiscal twenty twenty five were $7,400,000 or 48% of sales compared to $6,100,000 or 40% of sales in the same period last year. Loss from operations for the second quarter of fiscal twenty twenty five was $487,000 compared to income from operations of $1,000,000 in the second quarter of fiscal twenty twenty four. Turning to our profitability metrics, GAAP net loss attributable to net sold for the second quarter of fiscal twenty twenty five totaled $1,100,000 or a loss of $0.1 per diluted share compared with a GAAP net income of $408,000 or $0.04 per diluted share in the second quarter of fiscal twenty twenty four. Included in our GAAP net loss in the quarter was a loss on foreign currency exchange transactions of $698,000 compared with a loss of approximately $14,000 in the prior year period. Because we operate in several geographical regions, a significant portion of our business is conducted in currencies other than The U. Roger AlmondChief Financial Officer at NetSol00:13:36S. Dollar. A decrease in the value of the U. S. Dollar compared to foreign currency exchange rates generally has the effect of increasing our revenues, but it also increases our expenses denominated in currencies other than the U. Roger AlmondChief Financial Officer at NetSol00:13:48S. Dollar. Likewise, as the U. S. Dollar gains strength relative to foreign currency exchange rates, it tends to reduce our revenues, but it also reduces our expenses denominated in currencies other than the U. Roger AlmondChief Financial Officer at NetSol00:14:00S. Dollar. Moving to our non GAAP metrics. Non GAAP EBITDA for the second quarter of fiscal twenty twenty five was a loss of $775,000 or $0.07 per diluted share compared with non GAAP EBITDA of $1,400,000 or $0.12 per diluted share in the prior year period. Non GAAP adjusted EBITDA for the second quarter of fiscal twenty twenty five was a loss of $789,000 or $0.07 per diluted share compared with the non GAAP adjusted EBITDA loss of $725,000 or $0.06 per diluted share in the second quarter of the previous fiscal year. Roger AlmondChief Financial Officer at NetSol00:14:35Please see the reconciliation schedules contained in our earnings release for our revised calculation of adjusted EBITDA for the quarters ended December 2023. Turning to our balance sheet, we increased our cash and cash equivalents to approximately $21,300,000 at 12/31/2024, compared with $19,100,000 at 06/30/2024. Working capital totaled $23,000,000 as of 12/31/2024, compared to $23,600,000 at 06/30/2024. Total net sold stockholders' equity at 12/31/2024, was $33,900,000 or $2.91 per share. Our strong balance sheet provides substantial cash and shareholders' equity, reinforcing our business as we execute our strategy for future growth. Roger AlmondChief Financial Officer at NetSol00:15:35Also on 01/03/2025, our subsidiary NetSol Pakistan approved the buyback of 10,000,000 shares through 06/29/2025. If all 10,000,000 shares are repurchased, this would increase Netsal Technologies ownership of Netsal Pakistan by approximately 10%. At the time of this call, Netsal Pakistan has repurchased approximately 2,400,000.0 shares at a value of approximately $1,300,000 That concludes my prepared remarks. I'll now turn the call back over to Najeeb. Najeeb GhauriFounder, Chairman and Chief Executive Officer at NetSol00:16:09Thank you, Roger and Eric. As I said before, I'm very pleased with the progress that we made in the second quarter. We are hard at work innovating, investing in our products and services and we are encouraged by the many opportunities that we are seeing in the markets. As always, we are taking a long term approach to our business strategy and goals and we believe that we are positioning Narsour for solid growth in the later half of fiscal twenty twenty four, '20 '20 '5 and beyond. With that, I'd like to now open the call for questions. Najeeb GhauriFounder, Chairman and Chief Executive Officer at NetSol00:16:45Operator? Operator00:16:47Thank you. We will now be conducting a question and answer session. The first question comes from the line of Todd Felthane with Stonex Wealth Management. Please go ahead. Todd FelteSVP - Branch Manager at StoneX Group00:17:23I appreciate you taking my questions. Can you give a quick breakdown of the geography of your revenues as far as North America, Europe, Asia? Do you have that available? Najeeb GhauriFounder, Chairman and Chief Executive Officer at NetSol00:17:34I think Rajesh should be able to do that. Rajesh, go ahead. Roger AlmondChief Financial Officer at NetSol00:17:41Yes. So it depends on each quarter, but this quarter we had probably 70, usually 70%, seventy five % is coming out of the APAC region with about 12.5% coming from Europe and The Americas. In this quarter, we actually had a higher percentage due to BMW here in The U. S. To where we had a higher percentage coming out of The U. Roger AlmondChief Financial Officer at NetSol00:18:07S. Market and which reduced a little bit of the percentage out of the APAC market. Todd FelteSVP - Branch Manager at StoneX Group00:18:14Okay. I appreciate that. And where do you expect your growth to come from in the future, if you could kind of pick a market? Najeeb GhauriFounder, Chairman and Chief Executive Officer at NetSol00:18:21Yes, I think Todd, thank you for asking this question. We are really very committed and doing a lot of new things in North America, especially. There's a lot of efforts going on. We've been hiring some new talents in the Austin office. So I believe North America is going to be performing better in percentage growth region wise, while other markets are pretty solid as you heard about China and Europe. Najeeb GhauriFounder, Chairman and Chief Executive Officer at NetSol00:18:48So they're pretty steady, but we believe that we are hoping that we'll do a lot better in North America going forward. Todd FelteSVP - Branch Manager at StoneX Group00:18:56Okay. That's great to hear. You have a pretty impressive client list, AutoNation, BMW, Mini Cooper, Yamaha North America. I'm looking at some of these large companies. AutoNation just two days ago reported over $26,000,000,000 in revenue and they originated over $1,100,000,000 in new loans last year. Todd FelteSVP - Branch Manager at StoneX Group00:19:19Can you maybe give us some details about your contract with them? I mean, is it just a flat software subscription fee they're paying? I mean, if AutoNation was to grow to 50,000,000,000 in revenue, would you be receiving millions of dollars from them? And or is it just a straight subscription contract? Najeeb GhauriFounder, Chairman and Chief Executive Officer at NetSol00:19:42Well, I think we have actually generated sizable income in the last since we signed this contract about nine, ten months ago. And now it is a stage of integration going on. I think the overall, if you look at the total number, I think we reported about $18,000,000 something like that if I remember the number, Roger. But more importantly, Todd, because of this BMW deal, we have very good interest from our pipeline is pretty healthy in this digital retail market in The U. S. Najeeb GhauriFounder, Chairman and Chief Executive Officer at NetSol00:20:13Especially. So we've seen interest has risen since we announced the BMW contract last year. So that created more opportunities. I can't share the name because we're still in negotiations in some cases. But it's a very promising, I think, achievement for the company in The U. Najeeb GhauriFounder, Chairman and Chief Executive Officer at NetSol00:20:30S. Where we had this largest contract first time. And that means it just opened more doors, whether it's AutoNation, more business or other similar companies in this space in The U. S. So we're pretty excited about the opportunities in the retail digital retail side in The U. Najeeb GhauriFounder, Chairman and Chief Executive Officer at NetSol00:20:47S. And Eric, you may want to ask, because you're pretty expert in these areas. Go ahead, Eric. Erik WagnerChief Marketing Officer at NetSol00:20:53Yes. Agreed on that front. I mean, I think that we're definitely seeing some excellent growth within the Transcend retail. The pipeline is very strong. And just as on that note, I think we're seeing some very encouraging activity on the RFP front. Erik WagnerChief Marketing Officer at NetSol00:21:10I think we've been invited to more RFPs over the past six months to a year than we've ever been before. So definitely some strong growth potential. Todd FelteSVP - Branch Manager at StoneX Group00:21:24Okay. That's great. The recurring revenue is also very nice to see the growth in that. With your new investments into AI and all these new features coming about, are you going to be able to raise prices to your customers? What kind of pricing power do you have? Todd FelteSVP - Branch Manager at StoneX Group00:21:40And do you think this can bring more value and revenue to you? Najeeb GhauriFounder, Chairman and Chief Executive Officer at NetSol00:21:47Well, it's a valid comment, Todd. It's also very sensitive matter because we obviously are making sure that we make sure our customer who are long term with us. In some cases, I can talk about two cases where things are happening in China, for example, large customer and our team is working to do just that exactly what you're saying. Good possibility that we'll get what we want for the renewal. But these are premium name blue chip customers and for us to maintain our strong relationship and find many other ways to grow revenue from within the customer is quite more possibility. Najeeb GhauriFounder, Chairman and Chief Executive Officer at NetSol00:22:24Whether it is prices, I think it's also always discussed periodically and in some cases we are working on that. Our team is doing exactly what you're saying in some cases. Todd FelteSVP - Branch Manager at StoneX Group00:22:34Okay. Thank you. My last question just has to do with your subsidiary in NetSol Pakistan. I know you have a lot of talented engineers there that are much cheaper than hiring U. S. Todd FelteSVP - Branch Manager at StoneX Group00:22:46Based engineers. With your ownership, I think was 67% and with the recent buybacks, you may be in the 70s now. Is there a long term goal of acquiring all of NetSol Pakistan? Or is that going to be just continue to be a separate entity? Or is there any plans you can share about your increase in ownership there? Najeeb GhauriFounder, Chairman and Chief Executive Officer at NetSol00:23:08I think we started this buyback in PK Pakistan a few months ago. There is the whole idea is to really NTI owns more. Right now with the buyback, we probably will end up 10% more ownership once we complete this buyback. That will take us to close to 77%, which is a 10% jump. We have that goal in mind that we can try to maximize ownership by doing buyback or that's the only best challenge. Najeeb GhauriFounder, Chairman and Chief Executive Officer at NetSol00:23:34So I think the goal is to really strengthen the parent company's financial and balance sheet and so forth. So it's a good opportunity because NetSol Pakistan stock was at the peak INR 300. So now it's at about INR 150, I believe. So it's a good buy time and we continue this plan that we implemented a couple of months ago. Todd FelteSVP - Branch Manager at StoneX Group00:23:56Okay. Thank you so much for taking my questions. I look forward to strong quarters. Thank you. Najeeb GhauriFounder, Chairman and Chief Executive Officer at NetSol00:24:02Thank you, Operator00:24:05Thank you. Thank you. At this time, this concludes our question and answer session. If your question was not addressed during the Q and A session, please contact Netsol's Investor Relations team by emailing them at netsolimsinverterrelations dot com or by calling them at (949) 574-3860. I would now like to turn the call back over to Mr. Operator00:24:53Gauri for closing remarks. Najeeb GhauriFounder, Chairman and Chief Executive Officer at NetSol00:24:56Thank you for joining us today. We look forward to updating you on our next call. Thank you and have a good day. Operator00:25:04Thank you for joining us today for NetSol's fiscal third quarter twenty twenty five earnings call. You may now disconnect.Read moreParticipantsExecutivesNajeeb GhauriFounder, Chairman and Chief Executive OfficerAnalystsPatti McGlassonSVP of Legal & Corporate Affairs and General Counsel at NetSolErik WagnerChief Marketing Officer at NetSolRoger AlmondChief Financial Officer at NetSolTodd FelteSVP - Branch Manager at StoneX GroupPowered by Conference Call Audio Live Call not available Earnings Conference CallNetSol Technologies Q2 202500:00 / 00:00Speed:1x1.25x1.5x2xTranscript SectionsPresentationParticipants Earnings DocumentsPress Release(8-K)Quarterly report(10-Q) NetSol Technologies Earnings HeadlinesNetSol Technologies (NASDAQ:NTWK) Now Covered by StockNews.comApril 19, 2025 | americanbankingnews.comNetsol Signs With Chinese Leasing Firm For Expansion In Indonesian Market, Stock UpMarch 29, 2025 | nasdaq.comTrump’s treachery Trump’s Final Reset Inside the shocking plot to re-engineer America’s financial system…and why you need to move your money now.April 25, 2025 | Porter & Company (Ad)NetSol signs multi-million-dollar agreement with Chinese leasing companyMarch 28, 2025 | markets.businessinsider.comNetSol Technologies appoints Dario Morelli as VP, AIMarch 27, 2025 | markets.businessinsider.comNETSOL signs multi-million-dollar agreement with Chinese Leasing Company for the implementation of Transcend Finance in IndonesiaMarch 27, 2025 | globenewswire.comSee More NetSol Technologies Headlines Get Earnings Announcements in your inboxWant to stay updated on the latest earnings announcements and upcoming reports for companies like NetSol Technologies? 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Its NFS Ascent constituent applications include Omni Point of Sale, a web-based application; Contract Management System (CMS), an application for managing and maintaining credit contracts; Wholesale Finance System (WFS), a system for automating and managing the lifecycle of wholesale finance; Dealer Auditor Access System, a web-based solution that could be used in conjunction with WFS or any third-party wholesale finance system; NFS Ascent deployed on The Cloud, a cloud-version of NFS Ascent; and NFS Digital, that includes Self Point of Sale, Mobile Account, Mobile Point of Sale, Mobile Dealer, Mobile Auditor, Mobile Collector, and Mobile Field Investigator. The company also provides Otoz Digital Auto-Retail and mobility orchestration, a white-label SaaS platform; Otoz Ecosystem, an API-based architecture; and Otoz Platform, a white label platform, which includes Dealer/Admin Tool and Customer Portals. In addition, it offers system integration, consulting, and information technology products and services. It serves blue chip organizations, Dow-Jones 30 Industrials, Fortune 500 manufacturers and financial institutions, and vehicle manufacturers. 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PresentationSkip to Participants Operator00:00:00Good morning. Welcome to Netsol Technologies Fiscal Second Quarter twenty twenty five Earnings Conference Call. On the call today are Najib Gauri, Co Founder, Chief Executive Officer and Chairman Roger Almond, Chief Financial Officer and Eric Wagner, Chief Marketing Officer. I would now like to turn the call over to Patty MacLarson, General Counsel, who will provide the necessary cautions regarding the forward looking statements made by the management during this call. Please proceed. Patti McGlassonSVP of Legal & Corporate Affairs and General Counsel at NetSol00:00:30Good morning, everyone, and thank you for joining us. Following your review of the company's business highlights and financial results, we will open the call for questions. I'll now provide the necessary cautions regarding the forward looking statements made by management during this call. Please note that all the information discussed on today's call is covered under the Safe Harbor provisions of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act. The company's discussion may include forward looking statements reflecting management's current forecast of certain aspects of the company's future and our actual results could differ materially from those stated or implied. Patti McGlassonSVP of Legal & Corporate Affairs and General Counsel at NetSol00:01:05These forward looking statements are qualified by the cautionary statements contained in NetSol's press release and SEC filings, including our annual report on Form 10 ks and quarterly reports on Form 10 Q. I would also like to point out that we will be discussing certain non GAAP measures. The press release issued earlier today contains a reconciliation of these non GAAP financial results to their most comparable GAAP measures. Finally, I would like to remind everyone that this call will be recorded and made available for replay at www.nesaltech.com and via link available in today's press release. Now, I'd like to turn the call over to Najib. Patti McGlassonSVP of Legal & Corporate Affairs and General Counsel at NetSol00:01:44Najib? Najeeb GhauriFounder, Chairman and Chief Executive Officer at NetSol00:01:46Thank you, Perry, and good morning, everyone. Today, I'm happy to be dialing in from Lahore Pakistan Nasal office. This quarter, we made significant progress primarily on two fronts. One, we drove considerable growth in our recurring revenues and two, we invested strategically in our business, particularly in AI to position us as we drive long term sustained value for our customers and our shareholders. We achieved total net revenue growth in the second fiscal quarter of twenty twenty five, driven primarily by a double digit percentage increase in recurring revenues and a 26% increase in services revenues when compared to the second quarter of fiscal twenty twenty four. Najeeb GhauriFounder, Chairman and Chief Executive Officer at NetSol00:02:40The growth in recurring revenue is in line with a long term strategy and it demonstrates the continued evolution of our business model that over time should drive enhanced predictability and profitability for our business. To drive this shift, we are investing in multiple opportunities across our diverse markets that we believe are in line with a long term strategy. Accordingly, we recognized increased sales and marketing expenses in the quarter. While these investments have had a short term impact in our profitability, they better position us to capitalize on the many growth opportunities in front of us. Specifically, AI or Artificial Intelligence continues to be an important initiative and a key strategic focus for our future growth. Najeeb GhauriFounder, Chairman and Chief Executive Officer at NetSol00:03:39We have made encouraging progress advancing our AI initiatives in both the second quarter and year to end period, which our Chief Marketing Officer, Eric will elaborate on after my prepared remarks. Lastly, our existing markets are strong. We are receiving considerable interest from leading automakers, equipment providers and financial institutions throughout APAC region, where we have a leading market share and Europe, where Nestle is both a well known and respected name. During the quarter, we announced a multimillion dollar agreement with BMW Group in U. S. Najeeb GhauriFounder, Chairman and Chief Executive Officer at NetSol00:04:21With the leading automotive finance provider in China, expanding on a long standing relationship between Nestle and this customer that dates back to 02/2009. After the close of the quarter, we also announced a go live of an existing agreement with Kubota, a leading Japanese equipment financing company and a long standing customer for our Transcend finance platform to support their operations in Australia in addition to their operations in New Zealand and other parts. Agreements like these demonstrate the depth of NetSol's customer relationships and are the validation of the superior products and service that we provide in a highly competitive market. Demand of our Transcend platform is strong in The U. S. Najeeb GhauriFounder, Chairman and Chief Executive Officer at NetSol00:05:16As well. As I have mentioned on previous calls, Transcend Retail, our fully digital omni channel platform that seamlessly integrates into our customers processes to manage the entire purchasing journey is being used by Mini Anywhere USA, an independent brand of BMW Group to facilitate a quick and efficient purchasing journey for customers. In addition to Mini Anywhere USA, I'm excited to share with you that we are also in the process of integrating Transcend Retail with new customers BMW USA and expanding into more dealerships beyond the mini USA network. Taking the long term view of our business, I'm pleased with the progress we have made in this quarter and I'm encouraged by what's to come in the later half of fiscal twenty twenty five. We are confident that the investment we are making in this business coupled with our shifting revenue, revenue mix to include more recurring subscription and support revenues will translate into enhanced profitability and sustained value creation for our shareholders. Najeeb GhauriFounder, Chairman and Chief Executive Officer at NetSol00:06:34Before we go over our financial results for the quarter, I'd like to turn the call over to Eric Wagner, our Chief Marketing Officer, to take a deeper dive into our AI initiatives. Eric, go ahead please. Erik WagnerChief Marketing Officer at NetSol00:06:48Thanks, Najib, and good morning, everyone. I'm excited to share with you today how NetSol Technologies continues to pave the way with our AI innovations in our industry and how we are integrating AI across our products, services and our own business operations to drive efficiency, intelligence and transformation. Our journey with artificial intelligence began in 2019 when we began building our internal AI capabilities. In doing so, we've made several strategic investments that we believe position NetSol as an AI first organization. In 2024, we took a major step forward in this initiative when we launched Transcend AI Labs, our dedicated AI innovation platform. Erik WagnerChief Marketing Officer at NetSol00:07:31Transcend AI Labs is focused on three core areas. First, we are building out our internal capacity and understanding of AI to make sure that our team remains at the forefront of this rapidly evolving technology. We've invested heavily in building comprehensive curriculums to educate and enhance the skills of our staff and demonstrate how to apply this transformative technology to achieve better outcomes. Second, we're leveraging our AI expertise to enhance our products. At present, we're adding major functional AI enhancements to our Transcend retail and Transcend finance offerings, and we're exploring additional upgrades across our entire product suite. Erik WagnerChief Marketing Officer at NetSol00:08:12And third, we're enhancing Transcend Consultancy's AI services to better offer expert guidance across critical areas like information security, data engineering and cloud services. In short, we are providing specialized AI consulting solutions to help businesses achieve their goals. Taking things a step further, in the fall of twenty twenty four, we launched the Transcend platform, our AI driven unified product ecosystem that revolutionizes how assets are sold, financed and leased. This quarter, we are rolling out several major AI advancements and I want to highlight two key enhancements that will have an impact immediately. The first enhancement is intelligent document processing or IDP. Erik WagnerChief Marketing Officer at NetSol00:08:57This AI powered solution transforms multi document verification, data extraction and classification, handling bank statements, financial records, contracts and ID cards with OCR and NLP technology. IDP not only reduces manual intervention but also integrates advanced analytics to assess cash flows, credit history and risk factors, improving credit underwriting and real time decision making. Automated compliance validation ensures extracted data meets regulatory and internal standards, reducing operational risk. With automated invoice and contract processing, businesses can accelerate approvals, minimize errors and optimize risk assessments, delivering a faster, more efficient financing experience. Second, we have our interactive AI assistant, which provides real time support throughout the asset finance lifecycle assisting both customers and internal teams with instant responses, process guidance, and intelligent recommendations. Erik WagnerChief Marketing Officer at NetSol00:09:55This enhancement is designed to increase operational efficiency, improve customer interactions, and create a more intuitive and responsive experience. At Netsil, AI is not just a tool, it's a core part of our strategy. By integrating AI across the Transcend platform, we're enhancing efficiency, improving customer experiences and future proofing our business. As we continue expanding Transcend's capabilities, we look forward to sharing more about how AI is driving transformation and unlocking new growth opportunities for Netsil. That concludes my remarks. Erik WagnerChief Marketing Officer at NetSol00:10:31I will now turn the call over to Roger Allman, Chief Financial Officer of Netsol to go over our fiscal second quarter twenty twenty five results. Roger? Roger AlmondChief Financial Officer at NetSol00:10:41Thanks, Eric. Our total net revenues for the second quarter of fiscal twenty twenty five were $15,500,000 compared with $15,200,000 in the prior year period. License fees for the second quarter of fiscal twenty twenty five were $73,000 compared with $3,000,000 in the prior year period. Recurring revenues or subscription and support revenues for the second quarter of fiscal twenty twenty five were $8,600,000 compared with $6,800,000 in the prior year period, representing an increase of 27%. Included in our recurring revenues this quarter was a one time catch up of approximately $1,000,000 These one time catch ups are a normal part of our business operations and occur during any of our reporting periods. Roger AlmondChief Financial Officer at NetSol00:11:29Absent this one time catch up, our recurring revenue in the quarter would have been approximately $7,600,000 or a 12% increase over the prior year period, which more accurately reflects the increases in contract values for this segment. As Najeeb stated in his prepared remarks, we are confident that this growth in recurring revenues over time will benefit our business in the long term by driving more predictable and reliable results that generate sustainable profitability. Total services revenue for the second quarter of fiscal twenty twenty five were $6,800,000 compared with $5,400,000 in the prior year period or a 26% increase. Total cost of revenues was $8,600,000 for the second quarter of fiscal twenty twenty five compared to $8,100,000 in the second quarter of fiscal year twenty twenty four. Gross profit for the second quarter of fiscal twenty twenty five was $6,900,000 or 45% of net revenues compared with $7,200,000 or 47% of net revenues in the prior year period. Roger AlmondChief Financial Officer at NetSol00:12:32Operating expenses for the second quarter of fiscal twenty twenty five were $7,400,000 or 48% of sales compared to $6,100,000 or 40% of sales in the same period last year. Loss from operations for the second quarter of fiscal twenty twenty five was $487,000 compared to income from operations of $1,000,000 in the second quarter of fiscal twenty twenty four. Turning to our profitability metrics, GAAP net loss attributable to net sold for the second quarter of fiscal twenty twenty five totaled $1,100,000 or a loss of $0.1 per diluted share compared with a GAAP net income of $408,000 or $0.04 per diluted share in the second quarter of fiscal twenty twenty four. Included in our GAAP net loss in the quarter was a loss on foreign currency exchange transactions of $698,000 compared with a loss of approximately $14,000 in the prior year period. Because we operate in several geographical regions, a significant portion of our business is conducted in currencies other than The U. Roger AlmondChief Financial Officer at NetSol00:13:36S. Dollar. A decrease in the value of the U. S. Dollar compared to foreign currency exchange rates generally has the effect of increasing our revenues, but it also increases our expenses denominated in currencies other than the U. Roger AlmondChief Financial Officer at NetSol00:13:48S. Dollar. Likewise, as the U. S. Dollar gains strength relative to foreign currency exchange rates, it tends to reduce our revenues, but it also reduces our expenses denominated in currencies other than the U. Roger AlmondChief Financial Officer at NetSol00:14:00S. Dollar. Moving to our non GAAP metrics. Non GAAP EBITDA for the second quarter of fiscal twenty twenty five was a loss of $775,000 or $0.07 per diluted share compared with non GAAP EBITDA of $1,400,000 or $0.12 per diluted share in the prior year period. Non GAAP adjusted EBITDA for the second quarter of fiscal twenty twenty five was a loss of $789,000 or $0.07 per diluted share compared with the non GAAP adjusted EBITDA loss of $725,000 or $0.06 per diluted share in the second quarter of the previous fiscal year. Roger AlmondChief Financial Officer at NetSol00:14:35Please see the reconciliation schedules contained in our earnings release for our revised calculation of adjusted EBITDA for the quarters ended December 2023. Turning to our balance sheet, we increased our cash and cash equivalents to approximately $21,300,000 at 12/31/2024, compared with $19,100,000 at 06/30/2024. Working capital totaled $23,000,000 as of 12/31/2024, compared to $23,600,000 at 06/30/2024. Total net sold stockholders' equity at 12/31/2024, was $33,900,000 or $2.91 per share. Our strong balance sheet provides substantial cash and shareholders' equity, reinforcing our business as we execute our strategy for future growth. Roger AlmondChief Financial Officer at NetSol00:15:35Also on 01/03/2025, our subsidiary NetSol Pakistan approved the buyback of 10,000,000 shares through 06/29/2025. If all 10,000,000 shares are repurchased, this would increase Netsal Technologies ownership of Netsal Pakistan by approximately 10%. At the time of this call, Netsal Pakistan has repurchased approximately 2,400,000.0 shares at a value of approximately $1,300,000 That concludes my prepared remarks. I'll now turn the call back over to Najeeb. Najeeb GhauriFounder, Chairman and Chief Executive Officer at NetSol00:16:09Thank you, Roger and Eric. As I said before, I'm very pleased with the progress that we made in the second quarter. We are hard at work innovating, investing in our products and services and we are encouraged by the many opportunities that we are seeing in the markets. As always, we are taking a long term approach to our business strategy and goals and we believe that we are positioning Narsour for solid growth in the later half of fiscal twenty twenty four, '20 '20 '5 and beyond. With that, I'd like to now open the call for questions. Najeeb GhauriFounder, Chairman and Chief Executive Officer at NetSol00:16:45Operator? Operator00:16:47Thank you. We will now be conducting a question and answer session. The first question comes from the line of Todd Felthane with Stonex Wealth Management. Please go ahead. Todd FelteSVP - Branch Manager at StoneX Group00:17:23I appreciate you taking my questions. Can you give a quick breakdown of the geography of your revenues as far as North America, Europe, Asia? Do you have that available? Najeeb GhauriFounder, Chairman and Chief Executive Officer at NetSol00:17:34I think Rajesh should be able to do that. Rajesh, go ahead. Roger AlmondChief Financial Officer at NetSol00:17:41Yes. So it depends on each quarter, but this quarter we had probably 70, usually 70%, seventy five % is coming out of the APAC region with about 12.5% coming from Europe and The Americas. In this quarter, we actually had a higher percentage due to BMW here in The U. S. To where we had a higher percentage coming out of The U. Roger AlmondChief Financial Officer at NetSol00:18:07S. Market and which reduced a little bit of the percentage out of the APAC market. Todd FelteSVP - Branch Manager at StoneX Group00:18:14Okay. I appreciate that. And where do you expect your growth to come from in the future, if you could kind of pick a market? Najeeb GhauriFounder, Chairman and Chief Executive Officer at NetSol00:18:21Yes, I think Todd, thank you for asking this question. We are really very committed and doing a lot of new things in North America, especially. There's a lot of efforts going on. We've been hiring some new talents in the Austin office. So I believe North America is going to be performing better in percentage growth region wise, while other markets are pretty solid as you heard about China and Europe. Najeeb GhauriFounder, Chairman and Chief Executive Officer at NetSol00:18:48So they're pretty steady, but we believe that we are hoping that we'll do a lot better in North America going forward. Todd FelteSVP - Branch Manager at StoneX Group00:18:56Okay. That's great to hear. You have a pretty impressive client list, AutoNation, BMW, Mini Cooper, Yamaha North America. I'm looking at some of these large companies. AutoNation just two days ago reported over $26,000,000,000 in revenue and they originated over $1,100,000,000 in new loans last year. Todd FelteSVP - Branch Manager at StoneX Group00:19:19Can you maybe give us some details about your contract with them? I mean, is it just a flat software subscription fee they're paying? I mean, if AutoNation was to grow to 50,000,000,000 in revenue, would you be receiving millions of dollars from them? And or is it just a straight subscription contract? Najeeb GhauriFounder, Chairman and Chief Executive Officer at NetSol00:19:42Well, I think we have actually generated sizable income in the last since we signed this contract about nine, ten months ago. And now it is a stage of integration going on. I think the overall, if you look at the total number, I think we reported about $18,000,000 something like that if I remember the number, Roger. But more importantly, Todd, because of this BMW deal, we have very good interest from our pipeline is pretty healthy in this digital retail market in The U. S. Najeeb GhauriFounder, Chairman and Chief Executive Officer at NetSol00:20:13Especially. So we've seen interest has risen since we announced the BMW contract last year. So that created more opportunities. I can't share the name because we're still in negotiations in some cases. But it's a very promising, I think, achievement for the company in The U. Najeeb GhauriFounder, Chairman and Chief Executive Officer at NetSol00:20:30S. Where we had this largest contract first time. And that means it just opened more doors, whether it's AutoNation, more business or other similar companies in this space in The U. S. So we're pretty excited about the opportunities in the retail digital retail side in The U. Najeeb GhauriFounder, Chairman and Chief Executive Officer at NetSol00:20:47S. And Eric, you may want to ask, because you're pretty expert in these areas. Go ahead, Eric. Erik WagnerChief Marketing Officer at NetSol00:20:53Yes. Agreed on that front. I mean, I think that we're definitely seeing some excellent growth within the Transcend retail. The pipeline is very strong. And just as on that note, I think we're seeing some very encouraging activity on the RFP front. Erik WagnerChief Marketing Officer at NetSol00:21:10I think we've been invited to more RFPs over the past six months to a year than we've ever been before. So definitely some strong growth potential. Todd FelteSVP - Branch Manager at StoneX Group00:21:24Okay. That's great. The recurring revenue is also very nice to see the growth in that. With your new investments into AI and all these new features coming about, are you going to be able to raise prices to your customers? What kind of pricing power do you have? Todd FelteSVP - Branch Manager at StoneX Group00:21:40And do you think this can bring more value and revenue to you? Najeeb GhauriFounder, Chairman and Chief Executive Officer at NetSol00:21:47Well, it's a valid comment, Todd. It's also very sensitive matter because we obviously are making sure that we make sure our customer who are long term with us. In some cases, I can talk about two cases where things are happening in China, for example, large customer and our team is working to do just that exactly what you're saying. Good possibility that we'll get what we want for the renewal. But these are premium name blue chip customers and for us to maintain our strong relationship and find many other ways to grow revenue from within the customer is quite more possibility. Najeeb GhauriFounder, Chairman and Chief Executive Officer at NetSol00:22:24Whether it is prices, I think it's also always discussed periodically and in some cases we are working on that. Our team is doing exactly what you're saying in some cases. Todd FelteSVP - Branch Manager at StoneX Group00:22:34Okay. Thank you. My last question just has to do with your subsidiary in NetSol Pakistan. I know you have a lot of talented engineers there that are much cheaper than hiring U. S. Todd FelteSVP - Branch Manager at StoneX Group00:22:46Based engineers. With your ownership, I think was 67% and with the recent buybacks, you may be in the 70s now. Is there a long term goal of acquiring all of NetSol Pakistan? Or is that going to be just continue to be a separate entity? Or is there any plans you can share about your increase in ownership there? Najeeb GhauriFounder, Chairman and Chief Executive Officer at NetSol00:23:08I think we started this buyback in PK Pakistan a few months ago. There is the whole idea is to really NTI owns more. Right now with the buyback, we probably will end up 10% more ownership once we complete this buyback. That will take us to close to 77%, which is a 10% jump. We have that goal in mind that we can try to maximize ownership by doing buyback or that's the only best challenge. Najeeb GhauriFounder, Chairman and Chief Executive Officer at NetSol00:23:34So I think the goal is to really strengthen the parent company's financial and balance sheet and so forth. So it's a good opportunity because NetSol Pakistan stock was at the peak INR 300. So now it's at about INR 150, I believe. So it's a good buy time and we continue this plan that we implemented a couple of months ago. Todd FelteSVP - Branch Manager at StoneX Group00:23:56Okay. Thank you so much for taking my questions. I look forward to strong quarters. Thank you. Najeeb GhauriFounder, Chairman and Chief Executive Officer at NetSol00:24:02Thank you, Operator00:24:05Thank you. Thank you. At this time, this concludes our question and answer session. If your question was not addressed during the Q and A session, please contact Netsol's Investor Relations team by emailing them at netsolimsinverterrelations dot com or by calling them at (949) 574-3860. I would now like to turn the call back over to Mr. Operator00:24:53Gauri for closing remarks. Najeeb GhauriFounder, Chairman and Chief Executive Officer at NetSol00:24:56Thank you for joining us today. We look forward to updating you on our next call. Thank you and have a good day. Operator00:25:04Thank you for joining us today for NetSol's fiscal third quarter twenty twenty five earnings call. You may now disconnect.Read moreParticipantsExecutivesNajeeb GhauriFounder, Chairman and Chief Executive OfficerAnalystsPatti McGlassonSVP of Legal & Corporate Affairs and General Counsel at NetSolErik WagnerChief Marketing Officer at NetSolRoger AlmondChief Financial Officer at NetSolTodd FelteSVP - Branch Manager at StoneX GroupPowered by