Vistagen Therapeutics Q3 2025 Earnings Call Transcript

There are 8 speakers on the call.

Operator

Good day. Thank you for standing by. Welcome to Vistagens Therapeutics Third Quarter Fiscal Year twenty twenty five Corporate Update Conference Call. At this time, all participants are in a listen only mode. After the speakers' presentation, there will be a question and answer session.

Operator

Please note that today's conference is being recorded. I will now hand the conference over to your speaker host, Mark McPartland. Please go ahead.

Speaker 1

Thank you, operator. Good afternoon, everyone, and welcome to Vistagen's fiscal year twenty twenty five third quarter corporate update conference call and webcast. Earlier this afternoon, we issued a press release for the third quarter of our fiscal year 2025 ended 12/31/2024, providing an overview of our progress across our lead clinical neuroscience programs. We encourage you to review the release, which can be found in the Investors section of our website. Based on the current expectations, information we will make forward looking statements regarding our business during today's call.

Speaker 1

These forward looking statements speak only as of today. Except as required by law, we do not assume any duty to update any forward looking statements made today and or in future. Of course, forward looking statements include risks and uncertainties, and our actual results could differ materially from those anticipated by any forward looking statements that we make today. Additional information concerning risks and factors that could affect our business and financial results will be included in our fiscal year twenty twenty five third quarter Form 10 Q for the period ending 12/31/2024 and in future filings we will make with the SEC from time to time, all of which are or will be available in the Investors section of our website and on the SEC's website. Now with the formalities complete, we warmly welcome our stockholders, sell side analysts and others interested in our programs and progress.

Speaker 1

I'm joined on our call today by Shawn Singh, our President, Chief Executive Officer Cindy Anderson, our Chief Financial Officer Josh Prince, our Chief Operating Officer. Sean will discuss recent highlights in our lead neuroscience programs and Cindy will discuss our fiscal third quarter financial results. After our prepared remarks, as the operator has already noted, there will be a brief opportunity for questions from the sell side analysts participating on the call today. As a reminder, this call is being webcast and will be available for replay after completion. The replay link can also be found on our website's Investors section under Events.

Speaker 1

I will now turn the call over to our President and Chief Executive Officer, Sean.

Speaker 2

Thank you, Mark, and good afternoon, everyone. Thank you for joining our call. We had a very productive quarter. As many of you know, we are developing a new class of intranasal product candidates that are called pharynes. And these are designed to harness the power and the potential of nose to brain neurocircuitry to achieve a broad and diverse range of therapeutic benefits without requiring systemic absorption or binding to neurons in the brain.

Speaker 2

So let me start by discussing our most advanced ferrine, Fasadienol and our ongoing registration directed PALISADE Phase three program for that asset for the acute treatment of social anxiety disorder or SAD. Currently, as I've mentioned before, there is no FDA approved medication for the treatment for the acute treatment of SAD, which is a very serious and a potentially life threatening condition that's recognized by the FDA and one that post COVID is estimated to affect over thirty million adults in The U. S. Who struggle with intense and debilitating anxiety and fear of embarrassment, humiliation, judgment, when they're dealing with stressful social and performance situations. And with Fasadienol, our goal is to address this critical and very long neglected treatment gap by providing a novel, convenient, safe and rapid onset as needed solution to help individuals who are affected by SAD face the challenges in their everyday lives.

Speaker 2

In 2023, we reported positive results from our PALISADE II Phase III trial, Fasadienol for the acute treatment of SAD. In 2024, to build on the success of PALISADE II in our registration directed Phase III program for Fasodionol, we initiated PALISADE III and PALISADE IV as Phase III trials, each designed as a replicate public speaking challenge with the same primary endpoint and in each case an open label extension. And today, I'm pleased to report that both PALISADE three and PALISADE four are currently continuing to advance towards expected top line results later this year. In addition, we recently announced initiation and enrollment of the first subjects in an exploratory Phase two repeat dose study of facadienol and SAD. And besides the addition of a repeat dose arm, it is similar in design to our Phase three PALSADE three and PALSADE four studies for the acute treatment of adults with SAD, again, including in open label extension.

Speaker 2

With these studies advancing, we believe either PALISADE III or PALISADE IV is successful together with PALISADE II may establish substantial evidence of the effectiveness of Fasadienol in support of a potential new drug application submission to the U. S. FDA for the acute treatment of SAD in adults. In addition to advancing our Fasadienol Phase three program in SAD, we made progress in our development programs for iTruvone as a standalone treatment for major depressive disorder and PH80 as a non hormonal, non systemic treatment of vasomotor symptoms or hot flashes that are due to menopause. Currently, we are preparing and planning for potential Phase 2b clinical development of Itruvone in The U.

Speaker 2

S. And we are conducting customary non clinical studies that we need to support our planned submission of an investigational new drug application or IND to the U. S. FDA to facilitate further Phase two clinical development of PH-eighty for menopausal hot flashes. I'm now going to turn to some other corporate highlights.

Speaker 2

We recently reported positive results from an exploratory Phase 2a trial of PH284 in cancer cachexia. PH284 is our fifth clinical stage neurocircuitry focused intranasal farrowing product candidate with a positive efficacy signal and differentiated safety in all the studies that have been completed to date. And this recent announcement underscores the breadth and diversity of our clinical stage farrowing pipeline with five innovative non systemic investigational intranasal farrowing product candidates, all supported by positive Phase two and in the case of fasadionol, one Phase three positive clinical study. The clinical data and the placebo like tolerability that we've seen across all these studies gives us tremendous confidence in the range and the diversity and the therapeutic potential of our neuroscience pipeline. The positive studies from our five pharynx with clinical data across various indications drive our optimism and our confidence in the power and the promise of nose to brain neurocircuitry and the enormous potential of our intranasal fairing pipeline.

Speaker 2

As always, we are optimistic about the potential of our product candidates to address multiple significant treatment gaps and to transform standards of care to improve lives. I'll now hand it over to Cindy Anderson, our CFO to summarize our financials from the last quarter. Cindy?

Speaker 3

Thank you, Sean. As Sean mentioned, I will highlight a few financial results from our fiscal year twenty twenty five third quarter. Research and development expenses were $11,300,000 for the quarter ended 12/31/2024, compared to $4,500,000 for the same period last year. The increase in R and D expenses is primarily due to increase in research, development and contract manufacturing expenses related to our PALISADE Phase three program for pacinidol and SAD as well as IND enabling programs for Itruvone and MDD and PH80 for the treatment of menopausal hot flashes. General and administrative expenses were $4,900,000 for the quarter ended 12/31/2024 compared to $33,800,000 for the same period last year.

Speaker 3

The increase in G and A expenses was primarily due to increased headcount. Our net loss attributable to common stockholders was $14,100,000 for the quarter ended 12/31/2024, compared to $6,400,000 for the same period last year. As of 12/31/2024, we had $88,600,000 in cash, cash equivalents and marketable securities. I'll now hand the call back over to Sean.

Speaker 2

Thanks Cindy. So we are more optimistic than ever here at Vistogen with five clinical stage variant product candidates, each with positive patient data and differentiated safety. We have now multiple opportunities to disrupt treatment paradigms, enhance patient outcomes and create value for our stockholders. So I'd like to thank you all once again for your continued interest and support in what we're doing here at Vistigen. And on behalf of everyone on our team, we look forward to keeping you updated on our progress.

Speaker 2

Operator, we'd like to now open the call to questions from the sell side analysts who are participating today.

Operator

Our first question coming from the line of Andrew Tsai with Jefferies. Your line is now open.

Speaker 4

Hey, thanks. Congrats on the quarter. I just this is Matt on for Andrew. And I just wanted to ask real quick, if you're confident that the data from PALISADE three and four will still be in the second half of this year or are you expecting any delays? And also I've got a follow on to that after this.

Speaker 2

Hey, thanks, Matt. Good to talk to you. So as we've guided, we're confident that we'll see data from both PAL III and PAL IV in 2025. So no change in that guidance.

Speaker 4

Okay, perfect. And then I guess, is there anything that keeps you up at night in terms of what more could be done on these studies in terms of execution?

Speaker 2

Interesting question. No, it doesn't keep me up at night because the enhancements and the team that we've got executing on these studies, especially surveillance associated with rigorous adherence to the protocol, These are all very important execution related initiatives that we've got in place, reduced reliance on CRO surveillance, expansion of our internal team and just the way that we've been seeing the conduct of the studies with rigorous training even upfront of any enrollment at any of the sites. It's just actually been significantly different than what we've seen in the past in a very positive way. Josh Prince is on the line with me. Josh, why don't you go ahead and say a few things, you are driving a lot of the execution.

Speaker 5

Sure. Thanks, John. It is a very interesting question. And actually to your point, we have more visibility and into what's happening with these studies than we did before running Palsyc one and two in the pandemic and with the enhancements that we've put in place. And so if anything, I would say it's easier to sleep at night now than it was back then without COVID in place with masks down with the review that we have of subject eligibility, making sure that scales are administered properly, making sure that the rigorous public speaking challenge script is followed to the T and then having the ability to do quick interaction and retraining with sites if they start to deviate from that protocol.

Speaker 5

So feel like we're giving these studies the best chance we could at success with those changes.

Speaker 4

Fantastic. And then also you're starting to see a little bit we're starting to see a little bit more competition in terms of novel drugs for social anxiety disorder. Can you talk about how you think about the competition and how Fasentanol doesn't have is immune to this competition? Thanks.

Speaker 2

Thanks for the question, Matt. Unfortunately, we've got a robust market here in The United States in terms of the number of people affected by the disorder over thirty million. It's a lot of adults that struggle from time to time with what most people consider everyday social and performance situation. So one thing always is the case, there's no psychiatry, there's no one size fits all. And it's also the case certainly that there's plenty of room for a lot of treatments to come into play to try to make a difference.

Speaker 2

One very major difference with this pipeline and this is not just as the fasted on all for SAD, but it's for up and down the pipeline in each of the standards of care and the treatment paradigms currently we're trying to disrupt whether it's depression, whether it's menopausal hot flashes or certainly SAD is that it's the mechanistic difference. So being able to rely on nose to brain neurocircuitry and having a pipeline of drugs that don't have to go through your whole body that are activating neurons in your nose within milliseconds that project to neurons at the olfactory bulb neurons at the base of the brain and then project to different regions of the brain to achieve their different therapeutic outcomes. It's a critical distinction. There's no other drug approved that has this kind of mechanism of action. And what's important about that is it doesn't rely on the case like say an oral systemic, where you've got to occupy and thread the needle just right of receptors in the brain one or two that are associated with different indications, depression, for example.

Speaker 2

So we think we've got a very unique mechanistic approach to a broad range of therapeutic areas where we've just not seen much of anything. There hasn't been a single drug approved in SED for a long time. And the same thing in terms of menopausal hot flashes, depression, nothing with the kind of non systemic and rapid onset approaches that we're trying to achieve in the clinical studies we've seen. So certainly there are oral systemic approaches with different receptors in the brain that are targeted at different doses and different timeframes to onset. I think we're very confident where we stand in terms of time to onset and the ability to avoid a lot of the issues you typically see pop up in REMS or in black boxes or even things that are more common associated with say drug drug interactions.

Speaker 2

So not having to go through the liver, not having to go through the kidney, not have to really go across the brain into the brain, it's a big, big difference compared to what we see in the field and have seen in the field for decades. So we think we're in pretty good shape. If we can get to the point where we can provide this product candidate to people who have been struggling with this disorder for most of their lives. Remember the mean duration is about twenty years with onset in adolescence. So I think there's a lot of room for improvement based on where the market sits today.

Speaker 4

All right. Thank you.

Operator

Thank you. And our next question coming from the line of John Boyle with William Blair. Your line is now open.

Speaker 6

Hey, team. This is John on for Myles. Thanks so much for taking our questions. So a few from us. To start, can you give us some color on the potential path forward for AV-one hundred and one in neuropathic pain now that you've received a patent for the indication?

Speaker 6

And what gives you confidence for 101 in the indication given the prior failures of ATHONIX's, NMDA modulators and DPN? And then maybe on the PALISADE program, could you remind us of the rationale for the clinician administration in PAL three and four? And specifically, is there any expected difference on the placebo response for clinician versus self administering?

Speaker 2

Okay. Any other ones? Just those two?

Speaker 6

I've got some more if you want out there.

Speaker 2

Always happy to talk to you, John. So look, with respect to AV-one hundred and one, as we've announced, that's a candidate for partnering and our confidence drives not just in pain, but also in dyskinesia associated with L dopa therapy for Parkinson's. And we've got not only Phase one data telling us that this is a compound that we think is pretty safe, but also one that we've seen in preclinical models, not yet in any patient based studies, but in preclinical models, the MPTP monkey model, in terms of the Parkinson's related dyskinesia and then in some conventional pain models that have been published that we see it's a different approach and it's these are NMDA receptor at the glycine site, seven chloroquineuronic acid, which is what the prodrug produces when astrocytes take it up in the brain. That is a very selective and potent glycine site antagonist, but not so much so say like a ketamine or an amantadine where it's blocking the ion channel. So we think it's got modulatory capabilities at that site, both NR1 and NR2 and we're in a spot with this one where while it's not in line with the farrowing assets that we've got in with clinical stage and Phase two or later positive data, this is one that we think there is some potential for those who are focused on those neurological indications.

Speaker 2

And I would refer you to the publications that are in pain that we can send to you that will give you a little bit more comfort on the preclinical data. In terms of the clinician administration of the test drug in the context of PEL3, PEL4. Josh, why don't you go ahead and address that one?

Speaker 5

Sure. Yes. I'm about to. So with these studies compared to the prior ones, we were really focused on reducing any potential variability. And so when you think about a single dose public speaking challenge or single dose at visit two, single dose at visit three, we really wanted to make sure that we reduce variability and rather than have to train each subject each time you think about just having to train the raters or the clinicians at the site and then they administer consistently throughout the duration.

Speaker 5

So that really drove that decision again, just reducing variability. We really don't think there's any impact to the label or projected use because the open label that we have in place for all these studies has patients using it on their own every day, multiple times a day as needed. And so we don't expect any issues

Speaker 2

there. Similar to the math, the math is coming down. Obviously, we want to this drug needs to be pointed right at the mid septum, so not up into the sinuses and in any way we're just would get in the respiratory system. So again, it just ensures that the drugs got the best opportunity to work in those that are in the treatment side. It shouldn't affect placebo, but to be determined, I suspect.

Speaker 6

Very helpful. I mean, I guess maybe just one more from us. How are you viewing your need to hit on both SUDs and CGI in PALISADE III IV? Kind of just wondering if there's any sense that you might need to show some anchoring, some independent anchoring of the SUDs to the CGI?

Speaker 2

Well, the suds is group level, right, and CGI is individual level. And it is you have seen in the past and we've seen in the past that how people do on their sides from time to time will tell you whether they are going to be a one or a two on the CGI, but they are really distinct assessments where we're focused as the primary input on the group level change between treatment and placebo. So CGI stands as does PGIC, which is now a secondary input in PALFAD3 and four. Those are all important to provide context as to what we've seen as the clinical meaningfulness at the group level.

Speaker 6

Appreciate it. Thanks and congrats on the quarter.

Speaker 5

Thanks.

Operator

Thank you. Our next question coming from the line of Paul Matteis with Stifel. Your line is now open.

Speaker 7

Hi. This is Emily on for Paul. We were wondering if you could talk a little bit more about the ongoing repeat dose study and kind of what are you hoping to see in the rationale behind that? And also if there would be a regulatory risk if Fasadienol is safe, but it kind of turns out two doses look a bit more

Operator

efficacious than one? Thank you.

Speaker 2

Sure. Josh, go ahead and hit this one.

Speaker 5

Sure. So for repeat dose study, as we've noted before, it's really essentially identical to what we're doing in PALISADE three and four, just with an additional arm, so that we can see if the dose administered ten minutes after the first dose would have an impact on the public speaking challenge. And the FDA asked for that essentially because they felt in the real world there's a good possibility that a subject may go ahead and still feel if they still feel nervous take another dose. And so the thinking there is, is there any safety impact? We think there likely is not based on other higher doses that we've measured.

Speaker 5

And then is there a potential efficacy benefit? There could be for some patients, but you also have to keep in mind that once those receptors are saturated with the spray, you don't really get any additional benefit. So it's to be seen as to whether or not we would see additional benefit in that arm. At the end of the day, if PALISADE III or IV are positive on that primary endpoint with one dose, we don't think that it would create any issues for approval to see potential benefit of a second dose. And what it would do is likely inform the label so that physicians are able to let patients know that they could dose again within that ten minute timeframe if they felt it might be beneficial.

Speaker 5

But beyond that, we really don't see impact. And it is a it's a smaller study as well. It's not powered or sized like our Phase three studies are.

Speaker 2

It's a good point, Josh. And Emily, it's key that we align with the agency on this study. And I think the key takeaway for us is that a coded form labeling, it could help docs get the question is, how are you going to tell people to take it? Well, it could inform the labeling and guide whether the second dose within ten minutes is safe. And that as we as Josh noted, as we expect it would be.

Speaker 2

And again, I think the anticipation is in the real world, people may think more is better. And so to know that it's okay and safe, there's only so much volume the nose can handle anyway. And as Josh noted, once you occupy and activate those nasal chemosensory neurons, which happens in about 25, you're on your way to what we're trying to achieve when we the neurocircuitry projects to the amygdala.

Operator

Great. Thank you so much.

Speaker 1

Thank you, everyone. This is all the time we have for questions today. If you have additional questions, please do not hesitate to contact us by emailing irvistigen dot com or you can log in to the website via the Contact Us section and submit questions through that portal. We also encourage you to register for e mail updates on our website to stay connected with the latest news from Vistigen. Again, thanks for participating on the call today.

Speaker 1

We appreciate everyone's interest and continued support. We look forward to keeping you updated on our ongoing progress. This concludes the call. Have a wonderful day.

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